
Nowhere in the coverage of Victoria Toensing’s testimony before Congress, where she echoed the same old defamatory smears against the Wilsons, could I find any mention that Toensing had argued substantially the same points two years earlier - as a lawyer representing Fox News, ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN, and just about every other major news organization.
Toensing, along with Baker & Hostetler, drafted an amicus brief backing Judith Miller’s and Matt Cooper’s efforts to avoid testifying. The brief argued that “there is ample evidence on the public record to cast considerable doubt that a crime has been committed.” Any law student can tell you this puts the cart before the horse. Grand juries are gathered to determine whether a crime has been committed. Since grand jury proceedings are secret, Toensing was obviously ignorant of the evidence being reviewed.
The brief never proffered any bona fide evidence. No judge would rely on the esteemed Washington Times, using anonymous sources who claimed Mrs. Wilson’s identity was first disclosed in the mid-1990's, as evidence. It’s clearly hearsay, inadmissible at trial. No judge would rely on Robert Novak’s claim that the CIA “failed to give him a serious request not to publish her name” as the basis for pre-empting a grand jury investigation.
The brief cited the usual red herring - Joseph Wilson publicly spoke about his travels to Niger on behalf of the CIA, as if that somehow that made his wife’s CIA-status an open secret and somehow newsworthy. So, ”there should be abundant concern that the CIA may have initiated this investigation out of embarrassment over revelations of its own shortcomings.” Huh? Judges aren’t stupid. They know the difference between fanciful speculation and real evidence.
Nor were Baker & Hostetler and 36 major news organizations stupid. No one expected the brief to affect the outcome of the case. But the filing enabled the Washington Post to report, “The 40-page brief [15 pages of substantive text], … argues that there is ‘ample evidence . . . to doubt that a crime has been committed' in the case.” And, ”Attorneys for the news organizations said yesterday that their decision to submit the brief underscores deep concern in the journalism community over special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's tactics.”
In the interest of brevity, neither the ”ample evidence” nor the prosecutors ”tactics” were specified. The unstated truth was the brief had no legal basis; it was merely an attempt to neutralize the Wilsons in the media before the day of reckoning arrived. In 2007, let’s not forget that no one from the mainstream media has totally clean hands.
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FITZ!
JUSTICE!!!
Dammit egregious, you’re just too fast!
I was out of town for a few days, missed all of the hearings.
So what’s next as far as the civil case is concerned? (And my apologies if that’s already been answered)
Fitz! Marcy!
Tom Davis!KestrelBrighteyes @ 2
I have the Sight. Not always a welcome gift.
This is a great post.
Conflict of interest.
Just one more dollop of whipped cream on top.
Make sure somebody at American Lawyer Magazine sees this one.
And alla those people brung us the wars.
*&^%$#– nope, can’t listen to Ritter, Blix, Wilson or ANYONE with a brain.
nuh-uh.
egregious @ 4
*makes sign of the cross with forefingers*
BACK! BACK, I say!
Tweety lashing Andy Card: “Chimpy is the decider, but never to blame?”
The response is predictable…
Kestrel—
The sign of the cross has only a beneficial effect on me: I am a Christian. I think of the Sight as a spiritual gift from God.
Nice try.
BWAHAHAHAHA
Fairly soon this administration is going to run out of fall guys. With Gonzales almost historical, perhaps they already have.
I just heard on Iowa public radio that Valerie Plame Wilson had to cancel out as special speaker at an event next week due to ongoing unresolved legal issues. Joseph Wilson will be speaking in her place.
Is it the CIA preventing her from speaking? Issues from her own civil suit or Libby’s trial? Anyone care to hazard a guess?
newtonusr @ 8
I saw that. What a riot.
looseheadprop @
5
Fiderer has done great work on this story. I think he raises some extremely interesting questions regarding her relationship to the WaPo and others.
This is why the USAttorneys scandal makes for better TradMed — they aren’t entwined with the firings story. Libby’s felonies were always awkward for them, not knowing (still!) what might be exposed about their fellow wienie-eaters and wienie-servers. TradMed’s hands are (relatively) clean on AbuGate, so they are making the most of it — even genuflecting to TPM for staying on top of the story.
Victoria and hubby. This is what passes for smart Republicans?
A note on terminology - instead of “mainstream media”, I suggest the term “corporate media” - because they are, in fact, right-wing authoritarian media.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 10
like pulling out the keystone, methinks
Don’t want to toot my own horn, but I have made the main point of this post several times, including twice earlier today……
Oklahoma kiddo @ 15
Besides them, who do you have, Dan Quayle?
Odd as it seems, I wonder if BushCo’s current flailings are due to Harriet’s departure.
I don’t see how she gets any lawyering done in the first place, she is always flapping her gums on the tee vee.And talk about odious, that little performance in front of Waxman was awful.She tries to talk in circles but trips on her own talking points.
DBaker @
18
It was, for example, #128 at scarecrow’s post this morning.
Victoria Tonsillectomy is, alas! nothing but a worn-out whore to the politically powerful in the GOP and their fellow travellers. The sight and sound of her testifying before Henry Waxman were like fingernails and teeth being dragged across a blackboard mixed with the sounds of an entire fraternity ralphing after a toga party. It will take generations to clean up the mess she and her ilk helped create. What fresh and special hell will be carved out for them, I wonder?
Wow. Never knew about that connections. Thanks for the post and the digging, David.
Time to take a look at the amicus brief. Anyone have a cite?
TeddySanFran @
14
I had the same thought, only from the standpoint of certain democrats in the senate. As compromised and craven as they have been on Iraq and other issues, Feinstein and Schumer have really swung for the fences on this one.
Is she associated with the Libby Defense Fund?
btw check out Libby Defense Fund for a snicker.
Bustednuckles @ 21
ChimpCo motto: “Just keep flappin’, and keep raising the volume.” Doesn’t matter what comes out, as long as oppo views are obscured.
Yep, you did. I knew she wrote an amicus brief, but missed that it was for the media group. Do you have a cite for the brief?
David Fiderer
remember that!
nice post
angie @
6
In fact, they summarily dismissed all of those that disagreed, ala Richard Clarke.
Yeah, even if you die you can’t leave Scooter’s Trust!
Toensing is simply a distraction. She’s throwing sand in the eyes of the public like Scooter did to the FBI and Fitz.
How else can one explain how anybody with a brain stem can try to make the case that giving money to a presidential candidate somehow reveals you are an undercover agent? It’s just a shower of nonsense.
She needs to be shot down, disbarred and then ignored as the wheels of justice roll forward.
OT - Thinkprogress just posted that Politico.com is reporting that the WH is looking for a replacement for Gonzales.
Also, McNulty is also getting the boot.
Fox reports that Republican insiders say it’s complicated because Gonzo is such a good buddy of the President, so GWB doesn’t really want to get rid of another “loyal Bushie”.
Scarecrow @
24
I read that thing cover to cover when it first came out. It is on Pat Fitzgerald’s site somewhere - I downloaded it at work when it first came out.
Dover Bitch @ 32
Here’s to Waxman and staff - she’s on record.
David Corn Corrects Victoria Toensing’s False Testimony to Congress
http://www.davidcorn.com/archi.....lawyer.php
After he corrects the record, David sends this sweet little Valentine to Toensing:
“As a lawyer, Toensing is probably aware that knowingly making a false statement to a congressional committee conducting an investigation or review is a federal crime. (See Title 18, Section 1001 of the U.S. Code.) The punishment is a fine and/or imprisonment of up to five years. To say that I identified Valerie Wilson as a “covert” officer is to make a false statement.”
Cartoon idea for the artistically talented
Valerie Plame is standing outside of a house, holding a newspaper in one hand with the headline, “CIA: Plame Covert”, and her other hand raised to the door.
Inside the house sit Boris and Natasha. Boris is reading a copy of the same paper.
He says, “Victoria, there’s a kNOCk at the door.”
carmen @
11
When the hell does she get to start talking as freely as Larry Johnson or Bob Baer, and others that are now former CIA, like Tyler Drumheller?!! If this is not discrimination as punishment, I don’t know what is.
Nowhere in the coverage of Victoria Toensing’s testimony before Congress, where she echoed the same old defamatory smears against the Wilsons, could I find any mention that Toensing had argued substantially the same points two years earlier…
Nowhere? You ought to be reading Just One Minute:
However, there is a certain in-the-tank quality to the media not even noting there previous stance on this.
The media and the Bush Administration have “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” relationship.
Cheney et al would leak to Judy Miller who would write a story that Cheney would wave on Meet the Press on Sunday saying see even the New York Times believes this.
The Toensing amicus brief is the reverse of this. Here an extension of the Administration writes a brief defending Judy’s shilling for the Administration which the media can then cite saying, see the person who “wrote” the law says there was no crime.
This is a very good post. I was unaware of the brief and the collective interest of the MSM to file it “together.” Thank you.
Now I have a better understanding as to why the MSM has such a strong wingnut bias on this issue. (I’m still as pissed as hell at them, mind you, but at least I have a more complete perspective.)
will someone please explain the moniker
‘TradMed’?
The unstated truth was the brief had no legal basis; it was merely an attempt to neutralize the Wilsons in the media before the day of reckoning arrived.
Neutralize the Wilsons? Nonsense - the agenda was to avoid being subpoenaed and jailed. As you note, this amicus brief was part of the Miller-Cooper appeal.
Reflect - the press loved the David v. Goliath, truth-teller v. BushCo Wilson story; they hated going to jail and giving up sources. Motive, motive, motive.
Freddy el Desfibradddoro @
16
It took me quite a while to finally figure out what Teddy meant by TradMed; it would probably take me an equal amount of time to figure out CorpMed. MSM is easier to type.
dmac @ 42
Traditional Media.
Shock and awe seems to work both ways … in a lot of places.
carmen @ 11
What about her appearence in NY this weekend with Keith?
Tom Maguire,
You wrote, immediately after Plame’s testimony, that she denied any “involvement” in the decision to send Wilson to Niger.
You omitted the totality of her testimony in this regard, while criticizing media outlets for similar transgressions as you rated them on their treatment of that issue.
It’s no longer on the site. It was also linked via wikipedia, but no longer.
If you will e-mail me at the address provided (I assume that you are part of the hiearchy here, I will e-mail the pdf file so that you can post it here.
It really truly is a piece of crap, with circular logic and pages and pages of filler to make it a lot more seem a lot more scholarly than it really is.
[Mod Note; please do not requote more than once, or if you truly must, twice. Thanks]
david f -
nicely argued.
“..it was merely an attempt to neutralize the wilsons.”
that’s the heart of the matter. and that’s why toensing looked like a kid caught lying when congresswoman watson persisted in asking her about whether plame was covert or not.
toensing’s answer (in brief and in summary):
not by the particular meaning i attach to “covert”.
she then went on to engage in a little time-wasting, but very revealing, hocus pocus about her special meaning of “covert” re the law she helped fashion (in the ’80’s ?)regarding the public disclosure of a spy’s identity -
until watson recalled her (watson’s) time and continued with another revealing question to toensing.
Rahm Emanuel. On Hardball. Telling us how it is?
ot, sorry but abu torture news…I personally am surprised, I thought the president would be forced to ride abu to the end, I guess not
think progress;
linkerage
ok hi kiddo at 10
do you mean hysterical instead of historical????????????
O.T.- 3/19 Guardian Unlimited online story is a sad commentary by an average Iraqi on U.S. v. Saddam governance:
“The Regrets of the Man Who Brought Down Saddam”
Chertoff. God help us.
LS @ 55
My sentiments exactly.
Par for the course.
They never announce a resignation until the replacement has been found, as per Rummy. I suspected that is what is holding it up.
As well as the fact that the SCOTUS looked at Toensing’s amicus brief and said, “thank you very much, but no,” and compelled Miller to testify. I gotta believe that when this SCOTUS tells a right winger that they’re full of crap, they are really full of crap.
;0)
Maybe that D.C. Madam story will break and catch a bunch of these guys.
LS @ 55
And Ted Olsen? God really help us!
They should not be confirmed.
about the Abu Gonzales story - interesting how the admin leaks to Politico.com that they are shopping for a new AG and deputy at precisely the moment when they’re doing a massive document dump on the topic.
I smell something… it seems to be a mix of panic and chicanery.
I’ll try to find out more about it.
dmac @ 42
Traditional Media
From Rahm to Duncan on “Hardball”. Is this great television or what?
Clearly Boris and Natasha are ideal replacements for Abu as he’s pointed toward the door marked “Exit.”
ann in AZ@30 sez In fact, they summarily dismissed all of those that disagreed, ala Richard Clarke.
Did you know that Richard Clarke is personal friends with Judy Miller? She (& her husband, I think) was at his booksigning in NYC a couple of years ago. I told him I had heard on the radio that morning that she was a friend of his, but wished she hadn’t come to the signing. (She was standing behind all the chairs.) He was speechless but the BnN rep who was standing beside the signing table sputtered that everyone should be free to come. Anyhow, I made my point and haven’t liked Clarke much since. His book–a silly spy thriller involving Saudi Arabia with a totally implausible ending–further lowered my opinion. He peaked out with his apology at 9/11 Commission hearings. Such a waste.
Senate Dems should be very careful of to whom they give their Constitutionally required consent. A thorough vetting as to the candidate’s ability to prosecute even handedly and go after Rethug corruption should be front and center. Perhaps a question like, “Will you be willing to investigate wherever evidence leads you? If evidence implicated, say Karl Rove, in commiting a crime by leaking classified information, are you willing to follow that evidence, investigate and indict if neccessary?”
carmen @
11
Could be the civil suit, too, which is coming up?
Sorry I’m late: welcome, David!
Thanks. I’ve been scrambling about, looking for transcripts, video, even confirmation that it actually happened… We may know in 5 minutes.
I’m on it. I have a call in to the radio station and will report back as soon as they call. Feel like a cub reporter.
So the WH is searcing for a successor to Alberto. Loyalty? If I were you Karl, I’d be worried. Like… really worried.
“You have no idea… how bad it is here.”–Justice Dept. official. This latest is “note” at the bottom of TPM docudump story that links to USNews story. And TPM says, given the chaos at Justice, shouldn’t hold our breath waiting for documents either–now at least one hour behind schedule.
Part of the problem is that the “Bushies” at Justice don’t know how to form a strategy because they don’t know how to talk to each other when they have to turn in all their documents. Kind of like Tony Snow saying “I’m not going to be a fact witness here…”
The good news in the story is that they seem to realize that any new AG candidate–and they’re searching–is going to have to get past a Democratic congress. So no “Heckuva Job” Chertoff, I don’t think.
Rove is toast. He’ll be pursuing other interests soon.
LS @ 60
I think I saw that court restrained her from selling list, but same astricle mentioned the list was already out. Can;t remember where I saw it so don’t take my word.
However, aren’t these kind of guys the ones who look for more varied recreation outside their own BRs? Who is the DC Sanchez?
dmac @ 42
Traditional Media
Oklahoma kiddo @ 75
From your mouth to God’s ear. Hope it’s not just wishful thinking.
Woohoo! Carmen, intrepid citizen journalist!
looseheadprop @
5
I wonder why they haven’t been screaming about conflict of interest from the get-go, since it’s known that she represented Scooter Libby?
Breaking News!!! Karl Rove to replace Gonzales and will shortly be knighted as Sir Rovealot by King Richard and Crown Prince George.
tsf @20
she definitely added structure to him………..only so many things holding the straw man up………one by one, being taken down…….interesting……..see what happens…….i’m watchin’
Reports of Rove’s death have been greatly exaggerated.
That’s what I’m afraid of.
[Mod Note; please requote only once, or if must be, twice. Thanks]
The powers in the WH have concluded Rove must go. This, ‘they’ believe, will satisfy the sharks.
Sorry about earlier, Mr. Mod, I was searching the Internets for the brief and pushed post before looking at the “blockquote” code.
Anyhoo, I find it fascinating that this brief appears to have been scrubbed from the public Internets altogether. I’ll just have to look to Westlaw or PACER or check my computer at work for it. Credit where credit is due, I read about it on Just One Minute when it first came out.
LHP, you still out there from last thread? I can’t cut thru the clutter of the ABC website to find the name of ABC’s new legal expert.
Maybe somebody on the West Coast can watch this evening’s broadcast for the 30ish woman with the 3-word name who tells Charlie Gibson about the Dems creating apparent scandals…. unless they’ve done a quick edit from the East Coast feed.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 85
If true, which I doubt, wouldn’t the opposite be the case? Wouldn’t blood in the water embolden Ds?
DBaker @
86
And it’s still there. I just downloaded it from JOM.
The crawl on tweety’s program says Theodore Olsen is being considered as a replacement for Gonzales. That should be reassuring that the Justice Department will become non-political… Ha-ha-ha.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 85
I thought Karl was one of the powers. Who else is there?
Dick and the Bush family.
wasabi @ 90
Maybe they hope that Olsen would get thru confirmation on sympathy vote.
Off topic, I just read Norm Chomsky’s Failed State. It sort of made me want to crawl in a hole and give up, but luckily there is a ray of hope, the blogosphere, (which somehow reminds me of the WWII French Underground)…
Prairie Sunshine @ 87
Jan Greenberg
I’m looking at the DOJ Fitzgerald site, and I can’t find the amicus brief. Still looking (IANAL).
“embolden Ds”? My party? Now that is a novel concept.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 75
Save us!
Soltz sez, on KO, that the world looks at Condi “as a war princess.”
From the news orgs’ amicus brief, p.5:
Looks familiar.
wasabi @ 90
Who on the planet thinks this Senate would confirm such a sleaze?
OTOH, RGJoe, Salazar, Bachus, Nelson & Nelson, Mary L… we’re fucked.
ls @60i think
i am not a gossip by doctrine, but i am SO HOPING that list gets published, oh i am so hoping that list gets published…………lip lick.
yeah, i know it’s crude, i’m way prudent in every other area……..but this one i hope comes out………set everyone as equals, prudish harlequins set equal……….find out what the game is, and set it straight……..i’m waitin’ for that…….
Oklahoma kiddo @ 97
Fair enough.
Just now on Countdown, new moniker for Rice: War Princess.
You’ve probably understated the significance of this:
“…The unstated truth was the brief had no legal basis; it was merely an attempt to neutralize the Wilsons in the media before the day of reckoning arrived….”
It was more than simply an attempt to neutralize — it was trying to lay ground for the current, illogical, claim of ‘no crime’.
The Plame outing was PREMISED from its inception on the Bu$hCo assumption that no member of the US press would ever, under any circumstances, reveal their ‘confidential sources.’ When (under legal pressure) the press finally did reveal sources, it became obvious that the WH and OVP intentionally, methodically leaked Plame’s ID.
A crime may be committed, yet not prosecuted = true.
Plame was outed = true.
Plame’s outing was criminal = true.
Plame’s outing was not prosecuted = true.
To accept Toensing’s argument is to believe that: ALL crimes are always and everywhere prosecuted. But we know that to be false.
Her intellectual dishonesty needs to be exposed. She’s embarrassing.
Pectopah @ 37
hehe
OT from the last post, sorry. But I have to say it. Speaking of aiding and abetting the enemy and feeding right into their hands… Isn’t Cheney doing just that by weakening our homesoil defenses? They’ve always used the Tai Chi approach. Just sayin’
Scarecrow
this looks like the Amicus Brief (PDF!) link
Amicus Brief
included in this article by David Fiderer
Judy Miller’s 8 Bogus Arguments
Brel1 @ 94
I absolutely adore Mr. Chomsky. ;0)
Noam Chomsky tells the truth.
He’s worth listening to.
So does Juan Cole, John Nichols, Howard Zinn, Jane Hamsher, Katrina Vanden Heuvel, Jimmy Carter, Robert Fisk, etc.
@ 76..IIRC TMZ got the records gratis.
eCAHNomics @ 103
I am looking at it. Thanks. ;0)
Miss P, “They’ve always used the Tai Chi approach?” Explain, please. Push hands? Cloud hands? White bird stretches wings?