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(Photo of a lovely Carolina Wren from Julie's Magic Light Show.)
Here is the Sunday talking head line-up. Read it and weep: (some via Contra-Costa Times)
ABC: "This Week" — Sens. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and John Cornyn, R-Texas; national security adviser Stephen Hadley; actor Sam Waterston
CBS: "Face the Nation" — Defense Secretary Robert Gates; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.
NBC: "Meet the Press" — Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.; Rep. Joe Sestak, D-Pa.; former Rep. Tom Andrews, D-Maine; former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas; Richard Perle, fellow at the American Enterprise Institute
CNN: "Late Edition" — National security adviser Stephen Hadley; Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa.; former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski; retired Army Gen. George Joulwan; Michael Gordon, chief military correspondent for the New York Times; retired Army Col. Patrick Lang
"Fox News Sunday" — Former U.S. attorneys Bud Cummins of Arkansas and David Iglesias of New Mexico; Sens. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., and John Kerry, D-Mass.; Alyssa Mastromonaco, campaign aide to Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.
C-Span's Washington Journal: 7:30am – Betsy Hawkings, Office of Rep. Chris Shays (R-CT), Chief of Staff; 8am – Matt Stoller, MyDD.com, Blogger; 8:30am – Afif Safieh, Chief of Palestinian Mission to U.S.; 9am – Amb. David Satterfield, Senior Adviser to Sec. Rice on Iraq; 9:30am – Imam Yahya Hendi, Georgetown University, Muslim Chaplain
In reviewing the line-up, it looks like a full court press for several issues, including the US Attorney firings, the troop escalation in Iraq, the abysmal foreign policy failure that is the Bush Administration, and the betrayal of Valerie Plame Wilson and the state of the intelligence community at the moment. Take your pick — it looks like a not-so-cheery line-up for George Bush fans.
People to look for this morning: Pat Lang on CNN's Late Edition, along with Zbigniew Brzezinski and Rep. Jack Murtha; and Sen. Pat Leahy on This Week. When you add in Sen. Chuck Shumer on Meet the Press and Sen. Dianne Feinstein on Face the Nation, I see a full court press on the US Attorney issue and am wondering how much we'll be hearing about whether Attorney General Alberto Gonzales has been less than forthcoming with Congress. (Hint: a lot.)
Here's hoping there some news on a subpoena for Karl Rove. Don't know about you, but that's a reason to pour another cuppa coffee…
Today's bird photo is a Carolina wren. If you haven't been lucky enough to see these little guys up close and personal, you are really missing out. We have a pair that reside in wooded area near our house — and they show up regularly at our feeders, hopping about, clinging to the wood, and climbing upside down to snatch a sunflower chip or a peanut out of reach of the hordes of sparrows and finches. They are quite the little acrobats, using their feet to cling upside down and sideways on my big feeder, always picking through the seeds to select the choice tidbits and then flying off by my car tire to nibble at them.
It's cold and snowy here — hopefully this will be the last of the snow for the year. (A girl can dream…) How are things in your neighborhood this morning?
PS — Two things I forgot to link up yesterday. Bob Geiger has some fantastic cartoons — don't miss the Mike Lucovich ones. And a great essay on Green Beer and English from Tom Watson.
UPDATE: I also meant to be certain that everyone saw this from Media Matters: If It's Sunday, It's Conservative.
UPDATE #2: There is a huge pet food recall underway for some food that has been implicated in kidney failure in some pets. I know a lot of our readers have dogs and cats, and I wanted to pass along this link for further information. (H/T to twolf1 for sending me the link. There are a LOT of brands involved, apparently.)
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Waxman on March 17th, 2003 to George Bush:
http://oversight.house.gov/Doc…..-69240.pdf
Two weeks without Lieberman. Hopefully, this is the start of a trend.
Matt Stoller is doing a fantastic job on Washington Journal this morning. Yay, Matt!
Christie used my photo!
Okay, now that I’ve got that out of the way… :)
I read a great piece from the UK Independent this morning about the various lies in the BBC Channel 4 recent anti global warming film. These people are shameless.
Julie at 4 — It’s a fantastic photo. Especially given that my pair of Carolina wrens were just fighting it out over a pile of peanut chips with an irate cardinal. Thanks so much for letting me use the pix. :)
Beautiful picture, Julie.
What a rude woman
Hey Christy, fwiw, way back when, looseheadprop and Mary, were all over an LATimes article about how the WH was cutting funding to the US Attorneys. IIRC, PJ Evans was the one who linked to it originally. AFAIK, it’s behind the LATimes’ firewall now, but iirc, it would clearly fuel the anger over the firings. US Attorneys literally had to choose which serious felons to prosecute, because they could not afford plane trips to take depositions, basic office supplies […]. White collar clients with resources had far greater leverage than before. OT, the WH’s fixation on prosecuting illegal aliens and terrorists could certainly be interpreted as a way of getting the US Attorneys off of white collar criminals such as ex Tyco CEO, Dennis Kozlowske. This analysis leads back to Grover Norquist’s, “we want to shrink government down to where we can drown it in the bathroom.”
John at 8 — Wow, very interesting. I don’t have an LATimes subscription — would you mind e-mailing me a copy of the article? I would love to read that. Thanks much for the heads up on this!
Christy Hardin Smith @
5
No problem– I hadn’t expected to do any photos yesterday, and the wrens do not often come to the feeder while I’m out there, so I was really pleased. I had gone out looking for a fox sparrow, just because everyone in the area was getting fox sparrows at their feeders (Someone on the New Hampshire bird list actually posted that he -didn’t- find a fox sparrow because he thought it was noteworthy). So… I thought I might catch the picture of one. No luck with that, but I’m happy with what I did find.
It’s funny that your wrens fight with the other birds; ours just run right in and hang out and the other birds don’t seem to bother them at all. This might just be what happens when I’m outside, though– fewer birds come to the feeders when I take pictures, so the wrens might make use of the opportunity when other birds are skittish.
After a high of 82 posted earlier this week at the Greenville-Spartanburg airport, winter, amidst many signs of spring, is reminding me that it has not departed just yet: it is 29 and clear in my part of upstate South Carolina.
Wow Stoller was amazing on Cspan Washington Journal. Hope there will be both a repeat later today and a video for people to see.
He has poise, a good sense of where the camera is, complete and nuanced answers to questions, and a little gentle self-deprecating humor [”curmudgeon”]. I think we will see much more of him on television in the future.
Morning Christy …. soda bread was a big hit last night … Thanks
Sorry, Christy, I didn’t make it clear, I don’t have a copy or access either. I just remember it being excellent. My hope is that looseheadprop, PJ Evans, or Mary might have it. My guess is that it’s at least a year old. Sorry.
blue e at 13 — Glad you enjoyed it. Mr. ReddHedd told me that I can feel free to make another loaf today, so I think it was a hit here as well. *g*
John at 14 — Oh, that’s okay — I can track it down, I’m sure. Thanks much.
And The Peanut was gracious enough to allow momma to watch her friend Matt on C-Span this morning, but we are now back to cartoons here this morning after breakfast. So please use this thread to give me a heads up if there is anything noteworthy on the morning shows. Thanks!
Well I made two, since I was cooking for a group ……..so I am eating some this morning for breakfast.
Christy:
Speaking of photos, I know it was old and funky, but I wonder if you ever got the photo of the baby owlets a couple weeks ago? Well it was still during the Libby trial, and I know everybody on your end was awfully busy.
I’m on the Left Coast and most Sunday mornings I start here to see how sickening the line-up will be this morning. MTP comes on at 6:00am my time, hardly worth getting up for usually if I wasn’t an early riser anyway.
Exile at 19 — I did get it — I thought I’d e-mailed back a thanks. Sorry if I didn’t. It was awfully cute. :)
Since twolf & I often trade comments wrt the Washington Journal, sure hope he got to see Stoller (see eg’s analysis). Was finding the segment remarkably free of wingers………..’til the next to last caller. One out of a 30-minute period (guess the rest were sleeping in or getting ready for church). ;-)
Apologies to fdl folk that I didn’t live blog Stoller. I wanted to watch him to see how he responded to different kinds of questions, and what his expressions were as he spoke.
Maybe we can get the transcript, Christy, you’re the resident Washington Journal expert :) Do they produce transcripts?
Jeralyn will be on CNN Reliable Sources from 10-11 ET.
Christy Hardin Smith @
16
About half an hour ago, NPR’s Weekend Edition mentioned (I didn’t hear all of it) the imbroglio involving the U.S. attorneys. The portion I heard mentioned Carol Lam.
Terry Olson @ 1
But, back then nobody knew the documents were forgeries!
If they were.
Which has actually never been proved.
At least by anybody that FoxNews believes.
The way that Waxman had to sign his name says it all:
Ranking Minority Member.
Waccamaw, I did leave you an EPU response last thread… (we seem to be playing the EPU game together)
Completely off Talking Head topic, but birdy…
Does anyone see blue jays any more? About 12 years ago we had gangs of them bullying the other birds and now if I see one a week I’m surprised. I’ve read that West Nile virus has decimated them here, and I’m wondering if it’s just down here or everywhere?
Thanks for letting me know you got the pic, I thought you might like it in spite of it’s funkiness quality wise. I have to remember it was taken almost 50 years ago with a funky Brownie Starflash.
And as I said, I know how busy you all were, especially at that time. I want to repeat tho too how much I appreciate what you FDLers do all the time, but especially then during that trial.
B’gorrah, look at that! Leahy! Schumer! Feinstein! Sestak! I’m not so sure “read it and weep” is a given today!
I don’t see them as much here, either, Marion. But we do have a pair that sometimes shows up whenever I put out whole peanuts in the shell.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 29
So I guess it’s more than just down here. Too bad. I know lots of people think they’re “problem” birds, but I have a soft spot for them. They’re colorful, and “assertive.” Yee hah! One just came to get a sunflower seed… I hope they make a comeback.
Question for the birders out there -
There’s something that looks a lot like Julie’s pic building a nest in an overhead bracing in the lower level of the cottage in SE NC………is that a likely location for a C Wren home? Little suckers are small, brownish & faster’n lighting (apologies for a less than adequate description). *g*
Schumer says that if Abu is gone the WH will have a chance to clear the air and reaffirm their faith in the rule of law. Nice try Chuck, they have no interest in the rule of law or the Constitution, they’ll probably just start another “surge” against justice!
this one looks like fun, esepcially where fox actually has former u.s attorneys, I know most former U.S. attorneys are livid over what’s happened to their once proud department
how many people think fox actually got some of these attorneys to say the fireings are a nothing?
anyway I’d like to comment on this text;
I like the word “betrayal” much better then “outed”
however this is more about bertrayal of the entire cia and our national secrets then betrayal of Valery.
obviously they betrayed Valery but the damage was to this country at untold expense of treasure and information, betrayal of her contacts who are now at life peril, betrayal of the cia who will no find it much more difficult to aquire operatives and assets
Christy Hardin Smith @ 9
I think he should post it here and you can take it down *ahem* as soon as you realize there might be a copywrite infringement
I might be able to read it before you see it to take it down
Well, it’s still dark thirty here on the northwestern California coast, and I can hear the geese honking as they fly over in flocks of hundreds.
We have too many geese
So, at least the environment seems to be recovering from the last couple of decades of trashing.
egregious @
12
I’m afraid so.
He agreed with a nitwi – er, fine lady that called him a leftwinger. This is the same fellow whose blog threatened me for “bashing Decocrats” for not chatting up rightwing Democrats who would ban abortions, keep us in Iraq, etc., etc.. I have been a Democrat longer than Stoller has been alive.
Stoller’s agenda to support the election of Democrats without regard to their politics gave us Joe Lieberman and once the like of Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond. It was the repudiation of segregation that cleansed the party of the segregationists just as opposition to the Iraq War got rid of Lieberman. No doubt it was costly but worthwhile I think. This is a fellow who supported Harold Ford in Tennessee as best I can recall.
Whatever Stoller is, he ain’t no leftwinger by a long shot.
A party that stands for nothing at all doesn’t have much chance of longterm electoral success. The divorce of Democrats from its natural base in the working class and, following the mandate of the DLC, to look after the welfare of the upper classes has greatly damaged the Democratic Party IMO.
Best, Terry
What crap keeps coming out of the mouth of the Pumkin Head. He is trying to browbeat Schumer. They need a judge on that show to tell Tim that the question has been asked and answered and to move along.
Schumer carefully explained the Lam example of interference with an ongoing, politically charged investigation, and Tim in the next breath says, “but there haven’t been any investigations intefered with, you just making a political point.” What a tool!
I have a few Blue Jays here is south Jersey. They stop by once a day. I bought corn to feed the squirrels, which don’t eat it, but the blue jays love it. As a matter of fact I hear a blue jay right now.
I have a couple Carolina Wrens here. I adore them. They are fun to watch. I also like watching Nuthatchs walking down the side of a tree. It’s fascinating to see a bird with two legs walk at almost a 90 degree angle.
Julie- Nice photos, I’m a dead eye Dick when it comes to shooting photos of birds. Butterflies on the other hand I seem to have knack for.
Matt Stoller is a nice guy. I met him while working for Ned. I enjoy his writing, and I’m glad to see that he’s on the teeveee.
And finally, that menu of scandals is very appetizing for breakfast. Hopefully it encourage the repugs to eat their own.
I really think the Democrats should be cautious and not appear too zealous in investigating George W. Bush or they’ll pay for it like the Republicans did with another 8 years of congressional domination and *8 years of the presidency.
-Beltway Pundickocracy
*Includes the media and judicial assist in 2000
I don’t dare turn on the TV while my sweetie is still asleep or there might be an unexplained death in the family. So I will depend on you folks to paint me some pictures of the news.
For you David Shuster fans—
He’s on now at msnbc. They’re going to do an overview of the Iraq war tomorrow [sorry didn’t catch what time].
The poor Foxies are going to have to learn how to loathe loyal Republican former USA’s now too.
The list of enemies is getting huge.
-GSD
Then Tim resorts to suggesting that Schumer can’t fairly investigate the attorney firings because he is involved with the Senate election campaign and thus too partisan. Jeeez Louise, I forgot, none of the RePukes are partisan, I’ll try to remember that in the future.
I know that Tim has a law degree, but I didn’t know he was practicing law. He sounded like Karl “blossom” Rove’s goddamn counselor this morning.
The petulant Preznit says no one tells him who to fire. That posture should really help the Republican cause.
Gonzo “declined” an invite from Press the Meat to appear this morning……..interesting, that.
Marion in Savannah @
27
We get them a lot in Vermont, but not so much as we used to a few years ago; I think this is partially because of our attempt to squirrel-proof our feeders. They’re not as easy to access for larger birds either, so we don’t get completely mobbed by blue jays the way we used to. We do, however, have them in the area throughout the summer and through some of the winter. They, along with the grackles and red-winged blackbirds, will mob crows when they come looking for nestlings to eat. We used to have an open feeder which would get emptied out by large flocks of blue jays and assorted blackbirds in a matter of hours. No more :)
Of course, even squirrel proofing isn’t perfect:
http://juliesmagiclightshow.com/?pic=832
I can’t wait to see that slimeball Perle come up with his buddy Tim. I have some bad food disagreeing with me and need so help to bring it up.
Love the bird pictures. My wife and I are avid bird watchers and regulary visit the Aransas Wildlife Refuge to view the Whooping Cranes, along with the numerous other species found in that area.
GAWD: Stephen Hadley is such a puke-oid!
Still, years later, trotting out the old pre-war bullshit bromides…
He’s on “This Week” right now “setting the record straight.”
BWWWWWAAAHAHAHA!
I love your picture over at C&L, Christy.
theExile @
48
To hell with Fred Thompson, Perle should pick up acting. With all of the horror films coming out these days he’d make a great butler in a haunted house or a fabulous zombie…..
-GSD
Waccamaw @
46
Funny–and that’s the show that WH believes allows them to “control the message,” (quoting Cathie Martin).
Marion, there are bluejays in MN. We also had a flock of cedar waxwings winter across the street. Robins were here in abundance in February (just before a huge snow dump). Cardinals and chickadees have been singing spring songs for over a month. Things are clearly shifting in the bird world. I am so relieved that global warming is a big, fat myth!
Marcy!
Heh. I just responded to yr newspaperbrat comment couple threads back. If you don’t reach her I have contact info.
Also someone yesterday/day before was asking for your email here, did you get that request?
US Attorney’s Daniel Bogden and Carol C Lamb were investigating political corruption in Las Vegas and San Diego but are now fired after the Patriot Act is used for the first time in US history to analyze financial records for non-terrorism related case….. What politicians and business leaders were uncovered giving “donations” using this broad stroke by the Justice Department? What did Sheldon Adelson, the 6th richest man in the world and fervent Bush supporter say to having his records analyzed? http://misterapologist.blogspo…..ati…
“When the FBI says we should rest comfortably because they went all the way to Washington to get this approved, I presume they went all the way to Attorney General John Ashcroft, and that shouldn’t give anyone comfort” This story goes all the way to the top…
Visit http://misterapologist.blogspot.com… for the story and updates.
My page also has links to members of the House Judiciary Committee and a form e-mail that you can send to encourage them to ask the tough questions during the hearing on Thursday. Only a few more days left to get your opinion across. The Bush administration doesn’t go under oath more than once if they don’t have to!
Regularly see bluejays at my friends’ weekend place, near NYC. Not loads of them, but they’re around. I’m starting to get excited about the robins’ nest in the pergola over the kitchen patio. There’s been one there for the past several years. Two years ago, we were there when Mrs. Robin moved her babies out of the nest. Took most of the morning, and we were able to watch it all. The coolest thing was watching her maneuver them up and over a fence into the neighbor’s yard. Away, no doubt, from my friends’ dogs. (Who, bless their hearts, we kept inside until the little robins had made it to safety.)
egregious @ 55
I don’t think so.
GSD @
40
them beltway pundicks can always be counted on fer whatever assistance you might need ……..
Julie Waters @ 47
Thanks for posting that! What a wonderful site you have… {channeling Governator Ahnold} I’ll be back…
Speculation: What Happens *After* Impeachment?
At this point, in my humble opinion, Alberto Gonzales will not be Attorney General much longer, and the Bush Administration has reached the inevitable tipping point from which it cannot recover.
It seems reasonable to speculate that Bush and / or Cheney will not complete their terms, which raises several questions.
In my opinion, the ideal scenario would be for Bush and Cheney to go together, leading to Nancy Pelosi becoming President. Whom would Nancy Pelosi choose for her Vice President? Would Nancy Pelosi then run for re-election in 2008? (My guess would be that she would choose not to run, in which case her VP would be the presumptive frontrunner Presidential Candidate in 2008.)
Surely, the Republicans have considered this; from their perspective, I guess it makes more sense for Cheney to go first (I just cannot envision Cheney outlasting Bush), to allow Bush to choose his own replacement (a la Spiro Agnew / Gerald Ford).
Whom would the Republicans choose? Colin Powell? James Baker? Harriet Miers?!
How does the removal of Bush/Cheney affect the dynamic of the 2008 Election?
On one hand, it’s fun to speculate; on the other, the next 20+ months will mark a period of instability in the U.S. that is unprecedented. It will be a great relief to be rid of Bush/Cheney, but what then?
Marcy—
12 victoria2dc says:
March 16th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
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Marcy…
It’s from victoria2dc: I am trying to send you an e-mail, but the address on nexthurrah is not working. Do you have another address so I can resend that message?
She wrote a similar message at least twice. Don’t know if it’s one of your people or hey maybe a whistleblower! But anyway passing along the message that someone had trouble reaching you via yr tnh mail.
Blaise Faint @61, I like the way you think!
Question about bee losses. I live in cold country so have not “experienced” the issue yet. Have any of you out there noticed a reduction in bees or the effects of the reduction in bees. This seems like a very important issue, not being discussed much. Just wondered if any of you folks in warmer climes…have noticed that there are not as many or that things aren’t growing the way they should??
Also to the discussion of blue jays. We used to have tons of them and they would sort of battle it out with the cardinals in my neighborhood. We have west nile here and I have found several dead blue jays (last fall). So far this spring, I have not seen a single one. I have seen many cardinals…so it may be that they were run out by the cardinals. But it seems that they are much less in number where I live in nebraska.
GSD @ 39
As best I can recall the Democrats did pretty well after their investigations of another criminal enterprise in the White House under Nixon.
Truth is the Republicans completely muffed their opportunities with concentration on [horrors] blow jobs rather than what was handed to them on a platter. The GOP was handicapped by being not all that different from Clinton, who incidentally ran the greatest disinformation operation ever from the White House. Bush could have learned much more from Clinton if Bush weren’t dumber than a post.
Best, Terry
Thanks for the pic we have tons of Carolina Wrens,duh, in N.C. and lots of Jays,although not as many.
I’m surprised that Fox is having Kerry and Alyssa on. Scary when not every face is Conservative.
Blaise (#61):
i think you’re right about gonzales. i give him a maximum of two weeks. but we’ll be lucky if we can smoke out cheneycakes. he is one sneaky, ruthless old toad. and he knows where all of the stinky bits are buried. fuckwad is a tossup, but if he goes on a binge they might have to put him in rehab. if this were the beginning of his second term there would be a good chance of convicting him. with just nineteen months left the clock is against it. congress works pretty slowly, even when provoked. that said, there’s no harm in a little speculation, and i would love it if your concerns end up needing to be addressed ……
Incidentally it should have been a great pleasure to FDL readers to see Brit Hume look like he was eating a pickle on Fox when his continuing charade about Valery Plame managing to send her husband to Niger was contradicted.
Best, Terry
terry at 68 — Anything that gives Brit Hume that sour pickle look? Priceless.
Blaise Faint at 61
That is the interesting part. In such a curdled political situation, there is so much possibility out there. The US could be economically independent. Windpower is growing at better than a 30%/year rate, and there is a growing sector focused on food independence. There is *so* much possibility out there and we are having to put up with this bullshit while the enormous possibilities are languishing.
katie jensen @ 64
Last summer I did notice there were less bees in my garden. I shoot a lot photos of pollinators, so I am very aware of them. When I read recently about the drop off in bees, it confirmed what I saw in my own little part of the world. On the other hand, I saw a lot more butterflies, and my host plants served a lot more caterpillars, especially Eastern Black Swallowtails.
Toensing is an idiot and so are Bill Kristol and Brit Hume. If the WH is in deep denial about Abu “you’re not entitled to habeous corpus” Gonzales, they are in extreme deep denial at FOX news this morning.
I do on occasion watch snippets of FOX news just so I can see what the right is saying about Plame. I have to hand it to Chris Wallace and Juan Williams this morning, they were at least pointing out the obvious testimony that put to bed some of the questions about Valerie sending Joe to Niger, and the covert issue, and Hume and Kristol were still denying the obvious. I don’t see how those people stay on tv. Juan Williams at one point was just sitting there shaking his head in disgust at the shit that Hume and Kristol were spewing forth. Talk about Baghdad Bobs.
terry hallinan @ 68
Oh – good – glad he was contradicted! I had to turn Brit off as soon as he started in – couldn’t stand listening, as my stomach was churning. Who contradicted him? Did he respond, or just continue eating the pickle?
Blaise Faint @ 61
well, rove might be a moron but not this big a moron
I believe as you do that gonzales will be another tipping point if he is “resigned”
I also believe rove and bush understand this and they will just say no to “resigning” him
I believe it will take proceedings of impeachment of gonzales before the president gets rid of him “voluntarily”
I know I am alone in this speculation but if I am rove I am telling the president there is no way he can “resign” abu torure until the democrats initiate articles of impeachment toward abu or arrest him for ignoring a subpeona
btw
I believe abu will ignor subpeona…what happens then?
Beekeepers alarmed by bee losses
Well I had no trouble getting the bad food up, I had forgotten that Perle would be reinforced and enhanced with the Bugman Delay. Why do they allow Tom Delay on TeeVee? Why isn’t he in custody?
If it weren’t so real and so tragic I would have thought I was watching an SNL skit when Tom Delay deigned to explain the intricacies of military strategy to retired Admiral Sestak. At least Andrews pointed the absurdity of that before Pumkin head could gang up with the Bugman.
If he ignores the subpoena, then he will be impeached.
KathieinMN @ 72
Even Chris Wallace. I swear I am not making this up.
Chris Wallace played a rerun of Valery Plame’s statement she had nothing whatever to do with sending her husband to Niger.
Hume was left with the old talking points and all but accused Plame of perjury. Not a great morning for Hume.
Best, Terry
Jeralyn on NOW!
Twisted Martini @ 77
easy enough to say
however I can definately find you quotes where we said “if we can prove he lied us into war he will be impeached” about the president
president still there though
With all the debt wracked up by the US and most of our money going to Dubi with our good buddies at halabutrton, when can we expect tho be fically independent. hate trying to spell at this time of the morning.
In my dotage I sometimes don’t catch what is said correctly. Did Tom Delay just say on MTP
that anyone who questions our strategy in Iraq or advocates withdrawing on a date certain is a traitor?
ABC THis Week w/ Leahy & Cornyn. Leahy says he’ll have the vote to subpoena Rove & Miers if Fielding tries to hold em back.
Cornyn pooh-poohs that Dems see Rove behind every bush (sic).
Leahy & Steph JUMP on him that Rove’s name is in all these emails.
Yes! So glad they’ve got dumbo Cornyn spilling all that water he’s trying to carry!
Perris, there is no wiggle room in ignoring a subpoena. If he refuses to testify about his role, then they would have no choice but to charge him.
Julie Waters @ 4
I saw that same article, too — just in time to send it to a friend of the spouse’s who was touting the film!
Speaking of touting things, I want to tout my co-blogger MEC catching the AP cutting-and-pasting baloney RE: the Waxman hearing and Valerie Plame.
terry hallinan @ 78
there are specific notes from cheney himself that he requested someone be sent to find out what’s going on
it doesn’t even matter if Valery suggested her husband or not, why would it matter?…he was the best qualified for the mission
it only goes to show what liars the neo fascists are when they make the claim because it didn’t happen but even if it did there is no “there” there
Russert doing a terrific job of defending the WH against Schumur.
It’s a shame Schumur doesn’t know about Black, that US Attorney from Guam that was fired by Rove at Abramoff’s request.
Timmeh doing his best to tear Schumer down – but Chuck’s doing quite well…
also says Kyle Sampson *wants* to testify to Congress.
Twisted Martini @ 84
if this is the case, which I hope it is, then to accomodate Palosi’s statement that we are not considering impeachement as it stand now we can have our cake and eat it too
*LIGHT GOES ON AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD*
SUBPEONA THE VICE PRESIDENT AND THE PRESIDENT ON MATTERS WE KNOW THEY WILL INVOKE EXECUTIVB PRIVELEDGE!!!!
bing, no choice but to impeach, Palosi fullfills her pledge to the president which was made “if” he acts in good faith, and the country is served what it clearly wants
DUAL IMPEACHMENT
I like it
Watching MTP. Gonzalez refused invitation to be interviewed.
I agree jayt, as the interview continued, pumpkinhead continued to attack and Schumur did very well imho.
Pumpkinhead has to go.
omg – Delay *and* Perle on MTP – time to move to CNN…
ROFL!
That comment above is too rich to allow to pass.
I’ve heard many criticisms of my friend Matt Stoller, but never any that he does not criticize Dems enough. I’ve never heard anyone accuse him of being an apologist for all Dems, as opposed to a fierce agitator and critic intent on pushing the party to become an aggressive, progressive party. Matt campaigned aggressively for Ned Lamont and against Ho Lieberman.
Some people really need to gain a passing acquaintance with the facts.
Christy Hardin Smith @
17
Christy, we do not have a TV here, but our internet is bundled with cable TV. Mr HotFlash installed a $19.99 TV-in card on our competer and viola, the computer is now a TV, and we can save stuff as well. We never have to miss The Village Woodwright anymore. So you can have your stuff, and The Peanut can have her stuff.
Anyone have a take on the NPR story on Lam’s firing that aired this morning. Sounds like they are working hard to show that this wasn’t a dirty deal. Anyone able to fact check them?
John Casper at 87 –
“shame Schumur [sic] doesn’t know about Black” HELL!
The real shame is he doesn’t seem to know about a guy named Karl Rove.
What is it with all these brain-dead pols [sorry to be redundant] who start the drum beat for a head, but never start the rant for Karl Rove’s head.
Shakespeares Sister tells it like it is:
If this slimy shit is not issued a subpoena next week, I’m considering moving to Mexico where they have a more real democracy!
katie jensen & sofistic -
Re. your comments on bee conditions: my grandfather & uncle were professional bee keepers many years ago and it’s amazing that almost no one in the US has any concept of the importance of these remarkable creatures on our food supply. Read a rather detailed article not too long ago about the problem (sorry, didn’t keep linky). Also read?heard bee keepers in California have starting transporting their hives long distances to rent them to the big agricultural growers on a seasonal basis……without any real knowledge of the impact on the health of the insects. Too many dots; too few people making connections.
Morning all!
Dear Christy! We hope you’re feeling better today. Hard not to burn the candle at both ends during fitzmas, I know, but please feel welcome, indeed obligated, to take it easy for awhile.
Carolina Wrens. We have them year round recently and, as of this past year, they’re nesting in the woods edge next to the house. And we never saw one in OH before just a few yrs ago. no global warming here, nosiree…
We love their perky, feisty personality, AND – that song could blow the seats off the top bleachers! Just love ‘em! Oh, and you can add them to the list of plain suet nibblers. ;->
Shakes called Unka KKKarl a lump of shit. There goes her chance of getting a job in politics.
Top o’ teh morning to everyone. Yesterday was a fantastic celebration of the Irish.
And now awake to all this talk about birds and bees.
A good start to a week of more testimony. Under oath. Morning in America!! At. Last.
terry hallinan at 6:10 am
Per Pach above, I think your criticism of Stoller is seriously inaccurate. Stoller is very smart and pragmatic, but he’s not a Vichy liberal in any way in which I am familar. Do you have links?
I’m watching C-Span 3 rebroadcast a Capitol Hill Hearing on the scandal surrounding the Clinton Pardon of swindler Marc Rich.
If I understand the testimony correctly, it discloses that Ivan Lewis ‘Scooter’ Libby was one of the attorneys who profited from legal work on behalf of Rich in advance of the pardon application. (Did I hear that Libby billed $2 million in fees?)
Am I the only one who did not know that Libby was involved with the Clinton pardon of Rich? Does this shed light on funding the Libby defense? Could it be that Libby has reason to suspect a future pardon by … HRC?
Morning, everyone!
Christy: I have a couple pics to send you. Is there an email address we should use for picture submissions?
I don’t know if I have the stomach to turn on the news shows today. I probably will, though… like a moth to a light ;) . I am amused that the admin is trotting out Hadley. He didn’t exactly come off very well, with all that obvious lying. You have to wonder if he’s going to put his foot in the admin doo-doo, too. How many lying admin officials can be snared into one of the various scandals? (Sounds like a fun game, doesn’t it? I’ll take Mr. Sampson with a knife (in the back) in the law library.
For the rest of you who get nauseated like I do watching FOX, there’s a great website that does the viewing for us, then reports the right-wing slant from a centrist perspective.
If someone has already referenced them, sorry for the repeat, but it is worth noting.
it’s at http://www.newshounds.us/
These people are doing some dangerous work for our benefit, just how long can one watch FOX before their eyes glaze over and they start looking for a Scientology membership form?
Slightly OT, but Fred Hiatt deserves a “Wanker of the Day” award (yet again):
The easy way out is to blame President Bush, Vice President Cheney or former defense secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld: The decision was right, the execution wrong.
P.S.
Shorter Fred Hiatt: All your Wanker Of The Day Awards are belong to us!
By ifthethunderdontgetya | Mar 18, 2007 10:25:03 AM | Request Removal
Blaise @ 74. I reluctantly agree. I also believe that any documents that come to Congress will now be so thoroughly scrubbed as to be worthless. I also believe they will just refuse to cooperate w/ congress completely. (Look what happened when they let someone testify-it was revealed that there was no WH investigation into the Plame leak). They’ve learned their lesson. NO more cooperation. Period. This administration is totally criminal and arrogant enough to think they can get away with this. I hope I’m wrong. But I don’t see any solution short of impeaching Bush and Cheney. And they’ll probably ignore that as well.
Pachacutec @ 92
Actually that’s the precise opposite of what I said about your friend.
He (or at least his moderator) attacked this lifelong Democrat with spurious charges of “bashing Democrats.”
If you wish to take issue with my less than glowing admiration of rabid anti-abortion, pro-war Democrats, then we can have an interesting discussion.
If a right-to-lifer wishes to call themselves a Democrat, fine with me. If I take exception to their views, it is not “bashing Democrats” IMO.
Best, Terry
HO Lieberman
I love it! Now, there is a tag. I am tired of hearing the label “Holy Joe.” It does nothing to paint him for what he is — a FLAMING WHORE!
Same for McCain. “Saint McCain” is not effective. Facetious labels in politics does not work. The average voter doesn’t get it, unfortunately.
HO Lieberman… BUT it is more timely to perhaps say “HO McCain”
Puesto @ 95
THAT’S THE TICKET!!!!
subpeona rove and PRAY the whitehouse refuses to allow it
BING..GAZING…DUAL IMPEACHMENT
Mona Charen’s not on today anywhere, is she?
Yestidie on Dobbs show (minus Dobbs), she held forth in style that would have pleased victor/victoria(!)
“No one from the WH leaked [@ Plame].”
“Valerie never has said she was covert.”
and my fave:
“Seems to me there’s less here than meets the eye.”
okay, whatever, seemed to be whatserface Dobbs’ standin’s reaction…
Can someone explain to me WTF Tom DeLay is doing on MTP? Isn’t he the discredited congressman who had to resign because he laundered money to finance the redistricting shenanigans in Texas? Timmy could have had his pick of genuine congressmen who could spew the tired litany “fight them there so we don’t…” and “they had terrorist training camps…”???
I am glad Joe Sestak put him in his place, but DeLay is just shameless.
Puesto, fyi, Abramoff wanted US Attorney Black fired, because he was investigating an Abramoff client on Guam. Rove did get Black fired.
Why is Tom Delay not in jail yet?
Is Abramoff just sitting around writing, essentially, for his own amusement now?
LandOfTheFree at 102 — Feel free to e-mail them to ReddHedd AT firedoglake DOT com.
I am used to a sense of the surreal whenever I watch FOXNEWS Sunday’s discussion panel but this week was worse than most. As others have noted Wallace and Williams were bringing up real points while Hume and Krystal were still spinning the same old stories despite all the evidence this week has conclusively debunked. It was the woman from NPR though that really irritated me, she was no better, and while I expect GOP spin from blatantly GOP media figures like Hume and Krystal I was more than a little disturbed by her apparently blindness to reality, but I suppose since she is a regular on that panel I shouldn’t be so surprised. It’s just this was really out there for her in my observations of FNS over the last few years. (I sit through FNS as it is the only exposure I have to FOXNEWS directly, not a pleasant way to start my Sundays but to my mind necessary)
I watch faithfully all the major network Sunday shows, I have for years since that is one of the major shapers of American public political opinion. This is where many that do not follow politics day to day tend to get a sense of what has happened over the last week while they were at work, which gives them IMHO significant influence in shaping/determining the coverage afterwards and the perceptions of a significant number of Americans. Despite the sharp increase in the use of the internet for information I believe the traditional channels still significantly outweigh the new media as of this date, although I do think that will be changing sooner than many in the traditional media may be able to believe/accept. We shall see.
You said Stoller was supportive of anti-choice candidates and he helped Lieberman get elected. These assertions are 180 degrees away from reality. Now you insert some word about his “moderators” to cover your ass, and now I have no idea who you’re talking about.
Take your “interesting discussion” to MyDD if you have an issue with something at MyDD. You’re too far from reality or the integrity to tell the truth to hang here.
JEP at 103.
Thanks for linkie. Nice to know how to avoid glazedeyesyndrome, …. still,
I dunno about you, but seeing hume with a sour-pickle face might just stoke me with energy for the whole day!
I would not reccomend Richard Perle in Hi DEF My eyes are bleeding!
bg @ 99
I really, really like that under oath part, heh. Good morning, America, indeed. It seems like the long winter of our nation may finally be turning into spring.
“DUAL IMPEACHMENT????”
Now there’s a plan…
Is it possible? I don’t mean “is it likely,” just , “is it POSSIBLE?”
Can they both be impeached in the same event?
Seriously, that would uncover a multitude of transgressions that, independently, might not get exposed.
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 104
BarbinMD has a great diary on this at dKos here.
My thoughts on “the risks of preemptive war” here.
It’s amazing how some of the MSM continue to try and justify their negligence in bringing us the truth.
emptywheel @
58
nevah mind.
If you think Stoller is either “anti-abortion” or “pro-occupation Democrat,” please provide a link. I am unaware of anything ever linking him to either position.
Scotian: I watch faithfully all the major network Sunday shows, I have for years since that is one of the major shapers of American public political opinion.
* * *
My father also always has watched these shows. “To know what the enemy is up to.”
JEP @ 119
not only possible, in this sitution I dare say it is exactly what would happen if bush were any impeachmented
if cheney is impeached then there won’t be a dual, but if bush is impeached it will be a dually
I watch Fox also. We may be there biggest demographic. Maybe there should be a Nielson Report on how many watch just to be amazed at their stupidity.
Christy, you’ve got mail! (From me in the weeeee hours last night… zzzz….)
pidomon @ 117
I would not reccomend Richard Perle in Hi DEF My eyes are bleeding!
And he’s wearing a wedding ring.
Somewhere, there’s a woman deeply in need of our sympathy.
Anyone catch timmeh yestidie?
He had long interview with nader.
Brace yerselves. Latter’s got a new book out.
Seems that, since the big N lacks grandkids of his own to jabber to, he’s decided we’re fair game, so he’s got this notion we wanna pay to read about him & how his grampa did it. Turns out, we parents of today ain’t got a clue.
Yessiree.. scriptures every night.. prolly a paddlin’ board & the whole bit. egad. I’ll pass….
timmeh did seem to find it all quite nice, tho.
perris @ 126
It’s what Gingrich wanted to do to Clinton and Gore.
Selling to the Enemy: American Corporations Profiting from the Other Side of the War
Jesus’ General has a guest poster on Sunday Morning’s, Austin Cline. He has a great post up about Hallibutron moving to Dubai in order to better position Shooter’s 401(k) by selling dual use technologies throughout the Middle East.
I know I have said that I have had it with MtP before, but watching Pumpkinhead moderate a “balanced” discussion on Iraq with Richard Perl, Tom Delay (who should be in jail, no really) is waaaay off the charts. Anybody agreee???
Uh, would that be anything like fermented?
pidomon @ 117
creepy eh? wonder where woolzie slithered off to.
seems he disappeared as soon as perlie reappeared.
hm-m-m.
Updated above with this, but didn’t want folks in the comments to miss this:
There is a huge pet food recall underway for some food that has been implicated in kidney failure in some pets. I know a lot of our readers have dogs and cats, and I wanted to pass along this link for further information. (H/T to twolf1 for sending me the link. There are a LOT of brands involved, apparently.)
mui @ 132
me me me me MEEEEEEE!
Adie;
Just watching Fox makes my blood pressure SOAR!
If I have had any coffee in the half-hour prior to a Fox exposure, my wife keeps the phone handy to call an ambulance if I have a heart attack.
No such debilitating event yet, but I never watch “that channel” any more, it makes me livid, indignant, and red-faced, and sometimes quite animated.
I’m usually pretty laid-back, believe it or not. My wife also got a glimpse of my joining in on the Toensing dogpile, and admonished me profusely for contributing to the “un-civility” of the blogs.
So I have pledged (for the sake of my 8-year-old granddaughter who sometimes watches over my shoulder) to depart from outright insults and stick to intellectual snark.
Easy enough with the FDL crew, they don’t miss a thing, but dealing with Fox in a subtle way, without outrage, is something I am hard pressed to do.
Sadly, this Fielding White House Counsel guy is smartly buying time so he can “shred, delete, coordinate lies” and come up with a consistent, but dissembling line for all to speak..
This will all be covered up and go away by mid-April.
There is probably a few Rove operatives getting Jihadi’s to, like, blow up a ship yard in Pascagoula, Miss. or something for the “Fear Factor” to take over everything.
This is Dark Rove’s style. And, our Benighted Emperor, Bush baby, has years and years of spinning, lying, dissembling… He is a true artist.
Phoenix Woman @ 130
so, if I were waxman here’s the strategy;
write a subpleona today, monday morning subpeona rove, DO NOT WAIT FOR THE PRESIDENT TO DECIDE IF ROVE IS TESTIFYING OR NOT
just subpeona the traitor
the president gets “pugnacious” and presses his “executive priveledge” just to “bring em on”
bing, impeachment
mui @ 134
I think so, see comment 38
Christy Hardin Smith @ 136
Whew! My boys eat Purina, which is apparently not associated with the recall.
mm @ 102
OMG. HRC. Now there’s a train of thought of a different color.
DiFi on FTN… she’s doing a nice job of explaining the USA situation clearly and concisely.
I am not holding my breath for impeach-mint.
Perhaps the Democratic strategerie is to just keep the pile on, let the evidence mount until the public can catch up with all the crimes the media have been helping to cover up the last 6 years.
The same with the war. Let the surge go a while til no one can say the surge failed/therefore the war failed b/c the Democrats failed to fund it.
Christy – when people email pics to you, would you prefer them in any particular format, or would you like us to put them up on a site like photobucket and send you links?
P.S. thanks for the pet food recall information. I didn’t realize that some Science Diet is also on the recall list (not what I use… I can only imagine if I had to try to wrestle the food dish away from my 18 pounder at the moment!)
OT If you have interest in human evolution one of great anthropologists of our time has passed away. F. Clark Howell. From the LAT’s:
Link
Phoenix Woman — Am still digging out from under my e-mail pile. I’m sure I’ll get to your e-mail at some point today — is it a rush?
Are there two Matt Stollers?!
Remember the BushCo attempt last week to use the KSM confessions as a Bright Shiny Scandal Distraction?
Turns out that how the confessions were gathered (*coughTORTUREcough*) is a big enough for some Republican Senators to want to look into it. So the Scandal Distraction is now a Scandal in its own right. Oooooopsie!
EPU’d from yesterday, good news:
PeteCO @ 130
See, we read it :)
Puesto at 7:43 am
No it won’t. They will subpoena Rove. This has bipartisan support and legs at least through KKKarl’s appearance before the Judiciary Committee.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 148
It’s fairly short, but I’d like to have a legal person look it over quickly. If you’re time-stressed I can ask someone else to look it over, no biggie!
TRex. I swore off all Purina products when Senator Danforth (family owned Purina) went all the way with Clarence Thomas back in the day.
I was a fan of “yesterday’s news” litter, and I totally lost it when Purina bought that brand. Anyway, I am not sure what the ownership of Purina is now. . .but I carried that torch for a very long time.
My cats do not eat any of that food either. I don’t do the gravy “train.”
John Casper @ 151
DiFi is being her typical soft-spoken self, but it is quite clear Rove will be called one way or another.
Dianne is still very pissed.
solai @ 106
The possibility that they will refuse to be impeached should be considered and a Plan B prepared. Would enforcing a removal from office on conviction of impeachment be the job of the House Sgt at Arms? Anyone know what resources he has?
FWIW, Stoller did not support Harold Ford that I know of — and he has never been a supporter of Joe Lieberman. I think you have him confused with someone else.
bg @ 125
Bingo! While it occasionally irritates my wife since I tend to shout back at the TV whenever something exceptionally egregious is claimed I still do it and she puts up with it because she knows the importance of understanding those one opposes. I will never understand people that think one can successfully oppose/fight an opponent/enemy without understanding as much as possible why and what motivates them, their respective capabilities and weaknesses, and what various potential weaknesses do they have as a result of such. After all it is only basic military strategy known for thousands of years through many cultures on this planet. Know thy enemy, a simple yet very profound concept, and something movement conservatives and the GOP leadrship of both Congress and WH clearly care nothing for otherwise they would have recognized the trap Iraq posed from the outset for any invasion.
Marion in Savannah @
27
Blue jays are everywhere in Central Park. What I miss are eastern bluebirds, which i remember seeing all the time as a kid in ME, but now see very seldom. Saw a bunch of Rocky Mountain bluebirds in Yellowstone last Sept.
On that pet food thing, my brand isn’t on there, but jeez, that one manufacturer supplies a lot of brands. US consumer food production is getting very concentrated, despite all the brands in your megamart. (I’m still astounded at the size of the the supermarkets outside of the jammed neighborhood supermarket I go to here.)
HotFlash @ 155
man, you READ my mind!
it surely looks like cheney is capable of refusing to relinquish office, even after an election
he is mad you know
what then?
I can’t believe Richard Perle and Tom Delay are both on the Meet the Press panel right now.
They’re talking about Iraq, of course.
I guess being completely corrupt and completely discredited means nothing to Tim Russert.
Which makes sense, considering that we have confirmation from the Libby trial that Dick Cheney controls Tim Russert.
Good Morning Christy and Firebirds
John Casper -
where oh where have we seen this MO before, hmmm, oh yeah . . .
this is exactly what they did to JAG Maj. Michael Mori – criticized him for traveling to Australia to defend David Hicks (the Aussie Padilla ?!?!?)
and unfortunately, they were apparently just getting started on this poor JAG
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c…..012785.php
Bob Schieffer – “apparently government service is harder on people’s memories than Alzheimers…” went on to point out the problems with Scooter’s memories and then on to Abu G’s and the rest of the White House re: the USA firings.
jayackroyd @ 158
I used to see a few cardinals a summer, haven’t seen one here in new york in half a generation
TRex @ 143
Boy, I was lucky too. My kitties eat Friskies and the doggies eat Alpo. But I was sure surprised to see some of the more expensive brands on that list, like Authority, Eukanuba, and Iams. Wow, that’s some long list. Thanks for providing it.
perris @ 159
perris, I may have biz in NYC/LongIsland in the near future. I’ll be sure to give you a shout, maybe we can meet.
Was it my imagination…or did I blink and miss it….did THIS WEEK get through the whole show without once mentioning Friday’s hearings?
I think the White House told Russert to have Tom Delay and Richard Perle on his show to talk about Iraq.
Poor Gonzo the heat is coming on but the White House is apparently not letting him tell his side of the story, or gasp! even his spin of the story. Pumpkin Head and fox I’m sure would have been supportive, if not actually agreeing in advance about what questions they could ask him. I think the E-mails showing Karl Rove were involved where Gonzo’s attempt to throw Karl under the train! After all this White House has no problem ignoring subpoenas and being less than forthright even when they comply. Now Gonzo has been grounded from the press I bet unless his words are preapproved by Rove. No talk shows then where he can accidently throw Rove overboard! Somebody subpoena him I bet he wants to squeal. After all without a deal prejury takes away his law liscense, future lobbying jobs, and coroporate board postions. That leaves him only a talking head job on Fox!
Pachacutec @ 114
Not true. Joe Lieberman was initially elected as a rightwing opponent of Weicker. It was the attitude that any Democrat is better than any Democrat that was the problem.
Indeed Stoller did support rightwingers, including some who even he now admits are anathema to the liberal wing of the Democratic Party. That is fine. He can do as he wishes.
Then you’re not listening.
Can’t. I was warned I would be banned for “bashing Democrats.” After a second warning for an unspecified crime, I stopped posting.
My criticism is of Matt Stoller’s views just as others approve. I have mischaracterized nothing that I am aware of.
If you wish me to post my views elsewhere, that is fine.
I very much appreciate what you and all the great people of FDL are doing here and have no quarrel with any of you. I do with your friend.
Best, Terry
cathy @ 167
Well, we do have confirmation from Dick Cheney’s assistant, under oath at the Libby trial, that Dick Cheney controls Tim Russert. Sorry to be repetitive, but I think this bears reiteration!
The recall is for wet dogfood made by Menu foods. The Eukanuba site is down, I got the info from CNN.
HotFlash @ 165
lunch is on me!
Witney at 72
Toensing is an idiot and so are Bill Kristol and Brit Hume.
No they are anything but idiots. They are intentionally muddying the water with truthiness, trying to push the meme that everything is political and partisan.
By saying things, over and over again, that are demonstrably false, they make it more difficult to get the truth out. This is not idiocy. This is the republican program. If they can get facts and policy out of campaigns, then they can run their personality-based campaigns with great success.
OldCoastie @ 164
He gets an A plus for Sunday snark! That final bit about “you’d have to be an alien not to know this stinks to high heaven” was quite lovely, too.
perris @ 172
Done deal!
Terry, please name the rightwingers that Matt Stoller has supported. Your assertions are completely contrary to everything I know about Matt Stoller.
bg – I have Danforth in their top 3 to replace Abu btw . . .
new thread
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..iry-tales/
So LOOSE your grip of this thrHEAD and PROP yourself on up for the next.
Here is a GreatDoonesbury for you this morning!
Anybody else have a problem with NBC and MTP giving Tom Delay, a corrupt and disgraced speaker of the house, a forum on MTP to air his opinions of US foriegn war policy?
Pet Food Alert: Pet people, check that list again, even if you’ve already checked it. Some new brands have been added since yesterday!! Link
egregious @ 178
no linky?
you could have saved me two clicks you know, anyway, c u up there
At one time I thought the Danforth family had some integrity. That he carried water so faithfully for Thomas is not a good sign. And since Danforth is a former colleague of so many in the Senate, he’d probably get an easy pass. This is something to watch.
watching ‘this week’
When asked if Rove etc. are correct in saying that ‘Clinton replaced all USAs’ why do they say ‘yes, that’s true as did Reagan etc’
Why don’t they say ‘Rove’s missing the point
It’s WHY they’ve been fired’
Interesting gooper strategy on MTP. No Rep. elected official to defend the war (they have re-election to consider) but a pair, one discredited and the other indicted, of character assassins, since facts are not on their side.
Sestak finally made the point Delay voted to cut off military funding during Bosnia/Kosovo,thus calling bullshit on Delay’s meme of we must unquestioningly support the president during war, and I wish he’d made the point goopers freakin’ impeached a president while our troops were under arms.
Democratic spokespersons MUST be able to make these points quickly and cogently. The facts are on our side.
Phoenix — you have mail on the way back to you. :)
diogenes @ 186 good post. thanks.
If you have access to the NY Times Sunday Week in Review, I recommend Frank Rich’s column. Any questions I had about why we ended up in Iraq are answered by the stock price of Halliburton ($20 in March ‘03 and $64 in March ‘07 after a 2 for 1 stock split). Do the math.
Good for Schiffer about how the USA issue stinks.
“Redeploying is a euphimism for cutting and running.” Richard Perle on MTP 3/18/7
“Cutting and running is a euphimism for challenging Bush’s failed strategy.” – Neil watching MTP 3/18/7
Waccamaw @
97
Thanks to all three of you for raising this important issue.
One third of our food crops rely on bees to produce our meals.
Amphibia – an entire order of creatures – is disappearing from our planet.
Now one of the most complex insect species shows a mortal decline.
At the same time, our complex social species shows ever-rising rates of disruption in the formation of our complex brain (autism spectrum disorders).
I’d be happy to join y’all in writing about these complex issues here at FDL.
So long as MSM distorts the destruction of the biosphere into the tired frame “enviros vs business, the blogosphere and the progressive media seem to be the only way Americans outside the sciences learn how tattered the web of life has become.
Christy.
Thanks much for the pet-food-recall info. Just sent it on to a bunch-a friends & family. ;->
terry hallinan @ 169
Hello Terry. I have edited a bit to focus on one question, I hope I have not distorted anything by snipping, but do correct me if I have.
1.) Matt Stoller (b 1978) was 10yrs old when Joe L was first elected to the Senate (1988). It seems true that Joe as an anti-Castro Dem was more attractive to conservative CT voters than pro-Castro Repub Lloyd Wieckert, and Bill Buckley even supported Joe, but not Matt. I mean, he was only 10.
2.) In Joe’s most recent run for the Senate, Matt was, I do believe, very pro-Lamont and more so after Joe lost the Dem primary. Example here (just the first one that come up when I googled Stoller Lieberman). Looks pretty anti-Lieberman to me. What you are saying seems quite different from what I remember, but memory is fallible (even tho’ I am not in govt service!) Can you pls give me some links? I am willing to be persuaded by evidence.
*xyz @ 171
I see now that Darth must be controlling Timmy, or something. No one in their right mind would have Richard Perle and Delay on an MSM show at the same time– and pretend to be fair and balanced.
diogenes @ 186 (in part)
Excellent Point!!!
terry hallinan at 8:00 am
Thanks for responding, we need all the help we can get. No one is untouchable, not Stoller or anyone else. A lot of us, however, are somewhat familiar with Matt. He was a warrior last year and going all the way through mid terms. I would simply invite you to strongly consider linking to an article if you’re going to criticize someone. If you don’t know how to link or paste in a url, just ask and people here will help.
HotFlash (193) — thank you!
Neil @ 181
*raising hand*
Rayne @ 198
Seconded.
mui @ 199
raising hand.
I think we should flood MTP with letters about having Tom Delay on. I just shot a letter off myself.
Here’s what I want the Dems to say about the US Atty purge:
-This administration was using the prosecutorial power of the USAs to investigate Dems for bogus issues while ignoring Repub crimes.
-The purpose of this was to win elections.
-Those who did not cooperate were fired
-Gonzalez lied to Congress which is a crime
-This administration uses an email system which may or may not be archived to avoid a paper trail of their inner workings
-the phone jamming charge in NH may be one example of how the USAs were ignoring Repub crimes.
And finally:
-This administration is filled with dishonorable men and women who don’t believe in the constitution and are operating in a way that will change the United States from the honorable nation that it has always been to something dark and evil.
*raises hand*
When I saw Delay of all people listed I was already disgusted but when paired with Pearle as the GOP representatives by MtP, well all I could think about was Cathie Martin’s comments about MtP being the best place for the VP to control his Iraq message on. Well, it appears that MtP is continuing in that tradition of being the lackeys of the Cheney Presidency.
JEP at 138
I’m with you all the way.
Among the other pleasures of enjoying the cool waters at the Lake, it has allowed me to avoid watching fox, or listening to rush, plus a hundred other things I used to feel obligated to do, just to educate myself so I could try to counter their spin’s effect on many acquaintances of ours.
I honestly think FDL saved what’s left of my sanity. Thanks to everyone here!
Precisely JEP! i don’t watch fox either.
i have to admit i was transfixed, watching evilvictoria’s testimony, but that was ENOUGH! no more. i now know exactly what Christy & Jane were and are referring to, and they are spot-on!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 187
Thanks! Just sent a reply.
Brzezinski just on CNN Late Edition, cutting through the thick layer of crap Hadley had just laid over the Iraq situation.
Brzezinski always makes so much sense to me; this morning he’s sharper than ever…Next up- military panel to discuss the surge, panel includes Pat Lang among others.
This Terry character is a sophisticated trolling liar. Please ignore.
Matt has done a lot of damage to the telcos on the net neutrality fight, and as a sharp spear in the progressive movement, a lot of old line lobbyists want to take him down.
I have no idea if this character is part of that effort, but it wouldn’t surprise me. But you don’t get to come in here an lie, no matter how many compliments you pay to the site, its community or its writers.
thanks much Pach.
might bear repeating if you see more elsewhere ;->
solai @ 203 great points all.
I wonder if all the dem leaders (even schumer) are stating the case less assertively for fear of counterattack. Its important for them to have enough firm evidence but what do I know, they may have it. One thing is for sure, they will not get it by holding a hearing. That process takes months upon months.
*xyz @ 175
How about starting with Harold Ford and go down to the Clintons?
He didn’t support any of those folks you say?
In fact the theme of MyDD has long been better a bad Democrat than any Republican or independent.
I won’t vote for a right-to-lifer, a crook, a DLC’er under most circumstances no matter what they call themselves and whether the Republican is no better.
Does that mean that Democrats are forever isolated from governing as radical leftwingers outside the mainstream of American politics? It does if you have faith in the gospel according to the like of Chris Matthews and Tim Russert but I don’t have that faith. I believe we are the majority as shown consistently by polls that are ignored by the punditocracy.
I think the Democratic Party should be on the side of working people, of that strange minority: women, on those left out and left behind rather than the “suffering middle class”(tm) for instance. The upper classes, including the middle class, have always been a minority. I think Democrats should be proud to call themselves liberals and really stand for something.
Matt Stoller has different priorities. He is even afraid to call himself a liberal but prefers to be a “progressive.” That is all.
Best, Terry
mui @
199
goodgollymolly, i can’t even stand it when they let the gingrinch back on! they both oughtta be outcasts. i refuse to turn on anything that has either of them as “guests”. talkin ’bout traitors?!!!!! there’s 2 right there!
HotFlash 193 & anywhere!
wow! just wow!
oh, and thanks!!! ;->
I see a nice pattern here, it seems a lot of us are thinking that the constitutional crisis that will occur next week will open the door for impeachment.
They need to draw up the articles of impeachment, have them “in print” and use them like a sword of Damacles hanging over our rogue executive branch if they refuse to send their minions to be sworn in under oath.
IF their testimony proves misconduct, then proceed with the impeachment. If it clears them, drop the case. But until they are threatened with repurcussions for their obfuscations, they willnever respond.
Put Gingrich and Delay in the ring together, Delay has trashed Newt so badly in his book, it would no doubt turn into a real slap-fest…
“Amphibia – an entire order of creatures – is disappearing from our planet.
Now one of the most complex insect species shows a mortal decline.”
Ozone, anyone?
Do you have your deodorant on?
Neil, both hands up
ruh-roh…james mccarville just called Valerie Plame a “gorgeous woman”. Mary’s not gonna be happy!
any more poop on Cerbrus(sp)?
As a Vietnam veteran it was unbearable watching DeLay a Vietnam draft dodger, encouraging his other fellow Americans to spill their blood in Iraq. Ted Nugent, must have been proud of him. Nugent admitted in the Detroit Free Press (July 15, 1990) to urinating and defecating in his pants for an entire week before reporting for his draft board physical during the Vietnam War. Now he earns as much as $25,000 a night preaching about free speech and patiotism.
Politics is full of hypocrisy isn’t it Mr. DeLay??
I nominate the name BobbleHead for Hadley. He seems to think if he constantly moves his head in time with his drivel with the occasional sneering grin we won’t notice that everything coming out of his mouth is lies, stupid or both.
The Cornman with Leahy really doesn’t want the dems to force KKKKarl Rove to come out from under his rock and testify. I don’t blame the RePukes for not wanting to expose that puke to the light of day.
And what the hell is with George S_manyletters
is he apprenticing under PumkinHead – “It is just political, isn’t it?” he says to Leahy.
Jeeeez Louise
We have both scrub and Stellar’s jays who fight over the squirrel box peanuts when they can get them. It’s funny to watch the jays follow behind a squirrel so they can dig up the peanut the squirrel has just buried.
theExile @
38
“TIM RUSSERT IS CONTROLLED BY DICK CHENEY”
I’ve written numerous emails to MTP concerning Russert’s questionable tactics. I always like to remind them that Timmy is the VP’s go to guy when they want to control the message. If enough people flood NBC with complaints just maybe when can send Russert packing. After all the rightwingers sent Dan Rather packing. Turn about is fair play.
Tom Delay lecturing a vice admiral with 31 years of service was priceless. Of course Russert never asked Perle or Delay if they had ever served in the Armed Services. Tim has got to go!!!
Neil @ 188 & theExile at 196,
Thanks for the shout out.
xyz @ 171,
A point Democratic operatives need to drive home on a regular basis. And to carry the point further:
1. How much does Timmeh draw from GE in salary and bonus, and what conditions are those bonuses based on?
2. Timmeh makes a bundle on outside speaking engagements. How much does he make, and who is writing the checks?
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It’s been a pleasure having one of my photographs featured on this wonderful blog. Thanks to everyone for your kind comments. I obviously have a great many photos; Christie, you should feel free to use one in the future.
Took a peek at C&L and people are outraged at MTP! Aslo some very funny stuff about Delays service in the war on pests.
Russert had the opportunity of asking Perle of his involvement in the PNAC and their desire for a Pearl Harbor event to push their grand strategy but passed it up. Russert also had an opportunity to play his favorite game of “gotcha” with posts of past quotes by Perle and Delay. I guess it’s a game he likes to play with Democrats but not appropriate for indicted & disgraced former Reps or totally discredited right wing ideologues.