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	<title>Comments on: Valerie Plame Wilson, Part III</title>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/valerie-plame-wilson-part-iii/#comment-565885</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 02:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What a day!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: squiddy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/valerie-plame-wilson-part-iii/#comment-564671</link>
		<dc:creator>squiddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just sending a ping out to thank FDL for all this excellent work once again.&lt;br /&gt;
And still amazed at the revelation that the Wilsons are Dems, when all this time the left (me included) was defending them with the previously-clear understanding they were Repubs.  Vindication upon vindication.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does this make Cheney’s reasons for the outing clearer?  Maybe so.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just sending a ping out to thank FDL for all this excellent work once again.<br />
And still amazed at the revelation that the Wilsons are Dems, when all this time the left (me included) was defending them with the previously-clear understanding they were Repubs.  Vindication upon vindication.</p>
<p>Does this make Cheney’s reasons for the outing clearer?  Maybe so.</p>
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		<title>By: kathleen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/valerie-plame-wilson-part-iii/#comment-563720</link>
		<dc:creator>kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is this the “frogmarch”  Let’s hope!  Croak!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the “frogmarch”  Let’s hope!  Croak!</p>
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		<title>By: TiredFed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/valerie-plame-wilson-part-iii/#comment-563438</link>
		<dc:creator>TiredFed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;maunga. haha. let not have that debate now. suffice it to say, another shot went off today that will be heard “round the world.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maunga. haha. let not have that debate now. suffice it to say, another shot went off today that will be heard “round the world.”</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/valerie-plame-wilson-part-iii/#comment-563422</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Valerie was terrific. It’s no wonder the other Repub committee members stayed away.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I too was surprised to hear she wasn’t the one who originally suggested her husband for the Niger trip.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, I was very happy to hear them begin to talk about disclosing ‘classified’ information and not just disclosing a NOC identity. Even if WH officials didn’t know she was a NOC they could’ve been certain her job was classified.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then to hear Ms. Norton mentioning that even if someone in the WH was authorized to deal with classified info didn’t mean they were specifically authorized to pass on or to receive THIS particular info. That part of the EO relating to ‘need to know’ wasn’t met, so they violated that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still, perhaps the most striking moment was when Ms. Wilson spoke about the care in collecting accurate information free from bias and thinking about only yesterday when we heard about the lack of care taken when they waterboarded KSM into admitting to having done anything and everything under the sun. The difference is amazing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valerie was terrific. It’s no wonder the other Repub committee members stayed away.</p>
<p>I too was surprised to hear she wasn’t the one who originally suggested her husband for the Niger trip.</p>
<p>But, I was very happy to hear them begin to talk about disclosing ‘classified’ information and not just disclosing a NOC identity. Even if WH officials didn’t know she was a NOC they could’ve been certain her job was classified.</p>
<p>Then to hear Ms. Norton mentioning that even if someone in the WH was authorized to deal with classified info didn’t mean they were specifically authorized to pass on or to receive THIS particular info. That part of the EO relating to ‘need to know’ wasn’t met, so they violated that.</p>
<p>Still, perhaps the most striking moment was when Ms. Wilson spoke about the care in collecting accurate information free from bias and thinking about only yesterday when we heard about the lack of care taken when they waterboarded KSM into admitting to having done anything and everything under the sun. The difference is amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: maunga</title>
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		<dc:creator>maunga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LJ/Aquaria @ 188&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where I’ve been too totally and utterly and I’ve been in some funny places…… Except once when I asked a traffic policeman for directions in the local language to the house of an ancient and retired spy of my originality nationality to hear, in English,  “Ah, the —- spy!”  He stopped a taxi and had it lead me!  Wonderful and charming.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Where I’ve been too totally and utterly and I’ve been in some funny places…… Except once when I asked a traffic policeman for directions in the local language to the house of an ancient and retired spy of my originality nationality to hear, in English,  “Ah, the —- spy!”  He stopped a taxi and had it lead me!  Wonderful and charming.</p>
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		<title>By: raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;RE: Code Pink puke. Remember the La Roche idiots at the Lamont-Scmuck debate this summer?  Things aren’t always what they seem.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Code Pink puke. Remember the La Roche idiots at the Lamont-Scmuck debate this summer?  Things aren’t always what they seem.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Valerie seemed especially disturbed by Novak being told by Harlow to hold the presses on Novaks release of her identity.  Novak ignored the warning,  Another reason for an “official secrets act”.  We do not want to give journalist like Miller and Novak more protection with Federal laws to protect their sources.  We want journalist held accountable when they effect national security in a criminal way. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have lost any respect for Code Pink that I had.  Funny how they never showed up to protest the Libby trial and are now undermining Valerie testimony.  Who do they work for anyway?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valerie seemed especially disturbed by Novak being told by Harlow to hold the presses on Novaks release of her identity.  Novak ignored the warning,  Another reason for an “official secrets act”.  We do not want to give journalist like Miller and Novak more protection with Federal laws to protect their sources.  We want journalist held accountable when they effect national security in a criminal way. </p>
<p>I have lost any respect for Code Pink that I had.  Funny how they never showed up to protest the Libby trial and are now undermining Valerie testimony.  Who do they work for anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Bluetoe</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/valerie-plame-wilson-part-iii/#comment-563351</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluetoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This guy from the WH has an uncanny resemblance to Martin Borman.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/valerie-plame-wilson-part-iii/#comment-563350</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In addition Novakula later called Wilson and asked him directly “Is it true that your wife works for the CIA and sent you to Niger?” Wilson said that he wouldn’t speak about his family but that Novak had his facts WRONG!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So Wilson and Plame were warned, first by the friend,[and perhaps given an earlier heads up by Grossman that something was up in the WH about investigating his trip and his wifes involvement?] and later by Novak hisself- who was trying to get JOE to EXPOSE his wifes employment! Fortunately JOE didn’t blow up and Blow her cover in anger!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have made this point before…but if JOE had done that all these jerkwaters would have had plausible deniability. JOE would have been listed as Novak’s “source” for his wife’s “involvement”…and perhaps subject to prosecution.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that this may very well have been the goal…to get JOE to expose his own wife. And then prosecute him under the Intelligence Agents Identity Protection Act.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It wouldn’t surprise me given the level these scum-suckers play!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition Novakula later called Wilson and asked him directly “Is it true that your wife works for the CIA and sent you to Niger?” Wilson said that he wouldn’t speak about his family but that Novak had his facts WRONG!</p>
<p>So Wilson and Plame were warned, first by the friend,[and perhaps given an earlier heads up by Grossman that something was up in the WH about investigating his trip and his wifes involvement?] and later by Novak hisself- who was trying to get JOE to EXPOSE his wifes employment! Fortunately JOE didn’t blow up and Blow her cover in anger!</p>
<p>I have made this point before…but if JOE had done that all these jerkwaters would have had plausible deniability. JOE would have been listed as Novak’s “source” for his wife’s “involvement”…and perhaps subject to prosecution.</p>
<p>I think that this may very well have been the goal…to get JOE to expose his own wife. And then prosecute him under the Intelligence Agents Identity Protection Act.</p>
<p>It wouldn’t surprise me given the level these scum-suckers play!</p>
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