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		<title>By: Chetnolian</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/lie-like-a-rug/#comment-566759</link>
		<dc:creator>Chetnolian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-566275&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Phoenix Woman @&lt;br /&gt;
                285              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;What you’re missing is that Toensing claims to be the World’s Foremost Authority on the Intelligence Identities Protection Act (IIPA) of 1982 (Pub.L. 97-200, 50 U.S.C. � 421-426). Therefore she claims to have Knowledge of who the law applies to, and who it doesn’t, and feels Empowered to Pronounce Judgment on all matters pertaining to the IIPA. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;See, this is what’s so strange about Toensing’s non-appearance in the news stories on the Waxman case.  Did the media realize — after Waxman repeatedly called her on her lies — that she wasn’t to be trusted (and that any attempts to build an anti-Plame case from Toensing’s words was doomed from the start)?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No one has picked up on Waxman’s excellent snark at the end of her testimony, which went approximately-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Waxman: I do not think you should base your view of the law on what you did 30 years ago.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Toensing: (simpering)only 25!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Waxman: I’ll hold the rcord open on that as well.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-566275"><em>Phoenix Woman @<br />
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<blockquote><blockquote>What you’re missing is that Toensing claims to be the World’s Foremost Authority on the Intelligence Identities Protection Act (IIPA) of 1982 (Pub.L. 97-200, 50 U.S.C. � 421-426). Therefore she claims to have Knowledge of who the law applies to, and who it doesn’t, and feels Empowered to Pronounce Judgment on all matters pertaining to the IIPA. </p></blockquote>
<p>See, this is what’s so strange about Toensing’s non-appearance in the news stories on the Waxman case.  Did the media realize — after Waxman repeatedly called her on her lies — that she wasn’t to be trusted (and that any attempts to build an anti-Plame case from Toensing’s words was doomed from the start)?</p>
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<p>No one has picked up on Waxman’s excellent snark at the end of her testimony, which went approximately-</p>
<p>Waxman: I do not think you should base your view of the law on what you did 30 years ago.</p>
<p>Toensing: (simpering)only 25!</p>
<p>Waxman: I’ll hold the rcord open on that as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Chetnolian</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/lie-like-a-rug/#comment-566755</link>
		<dc:creator>Chetnolian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-566217&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bluetoe @&lt;br /&gt;
                283              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Martin_Bormann_Staatliche_Photographie.jpg&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....raphie.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I knew Knodell reminded me of someone.  Check it out!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Felt a bit sorrry for Knodell, especially when someone called him “the fall guy”. This reminded me forcibly of David Kelly, who was the man who might have leaked the UK “dodgy dossier” to the press. In a UK Parliamentary committee he was called the fall guy. He went home and committed suicide.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-566217"><em>Bluetoe @<br />
                283              </em></a></p>
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<p>I knew Knodell reminded me of someone.  Check it out!</p>
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<p>Felt a bit sorrry for Knodell, especially when someone called him “the fall guy”. This reminded me forcibly of David Kelly, who was the man who might have leaked the UK “dodgy dossier” to the press. In a UK Parliamentary committee he was called the fall guy. He went home and committed suicide.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/lie-like-a-rug/#comment-566698</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;maybe he’s a spook.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe he’s a spook.</p>
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		<title>By: whaleshaman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/lie-like-a-rug/#comment-566592</link>
		<dc:creator>whaleshaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-566502&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;sunshine @&lt;br /&gt;
                               288              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-565745&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bookwoman @ 65 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.leadershipprofiles.com/preview.asp?docid=2_151861&amp;t=2&quot;&gt;Here’s &lt;/a&gt;a little bit more on James Knodell…&lt;br /&gt;
I’m still digging.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wonder Who owns that website? $139. to get any info from that site.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;some clues from:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whois.ws/domain_information-com/leadershipprofiles.com/&quot;&gt;http://www.whois.ws/domain_inf.....files.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Contact Info&lt;br /&gt;
Owner	Leadership Directories, Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
Email	&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:gmcloughlin@leadershipdirectories.com&quot;&gt;gmcloughlin@leadershipdirectories.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Phone	 1 212 627 4140, Fax:  1 212 645 0538&lt;br /&gt;
Address	104 5th Ave&lt;br /&gt;
New York, NY  10011&lt;br /&gt;
US&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-566502"><em>sunshine @<br />
                               288              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-565745"><em>bookwoman @ 65 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.leadershipprofiles.com/preview.asp?docid=2_151861&amp;t=2">Here’s </a>a little bit more on James Knodell…<br />
I’m still digging.</p>
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<p>I wonder Who owns that website? $139. to get any info from that site.</p>
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<p>some clues from:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whois.ws/domain_information-com/leadershipprofiles.com/">http://www.whois.ws/domain_inf&#8230;..files.com/</a></p>
<p>Contact Info<br />
Owner	Leadership Directories, Inc.<br />
Email	<a href="mailto:gmcloughlin@leadershipdirectories.com">gmcloughlin@leadershipdirectories.com</a><br />
Phone	 1 212 627 4140, Fax:  1 212 645 0538<br />
Address	104 5th Ave<br />
New York, NY  10011<br />
US</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/lie-like-a-rug/#comment-566564</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Knodell testified 2X that he started working there August, 2004.  He does not show up on this, however, so who pays him?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/graphics/2006stafflistsalary.html&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....alary.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knodell testified 2X that he started working there August, 2004.  He does not show up on this, however, so who pays him?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/graphics/2006stafflistsalary.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/&#8230;..alary.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/lie-like-a-rug/#comment-566555</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-566537&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;sunshine @&lt;br /&gt;
                289              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-565880&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 191 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Margot 164:  If you should feel so inclined, please google or whatever, who James Knodell is.  He testified on behalf of the White House today (the Administration of the United States of America) and has no apparent “history”.  There is absolutely no background on this person on the Internet at all.  Personally, I find it very strange that a person could appear before Congress (sent by the President presumably) and testify under oath representing our Government, and have no traceable past. I, as a citizen, would  like to find out what his background is, and that is what I keep referring to.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who is Knodell?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am also peaked and did a check and didn’t come up with much. Now I wonder who the people are that he said were he reported to, his supervisors/directors/bosses. Any one have those names?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Two of them are Tom Dreier and Sandra Evans.  I did find out that a James R. Knodell and Joyce Knodell (via Zabasearch/intellius) have had several addresses in “Virginia”, so I guess that may indicate why we can’t find him…puts on tinfoil hat…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-566537"><em>sunshine @<br />
                289              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-565880"><em>LS @ 191 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Margot 164:  If you should feel so inclined, please google or whatever, who James Knodell is.  He testified on behalf of the White House today (the Administration of the United States of America) and has no apparent “history”.  There is absolutely no background on this person on the Internet at all.  Personally, I find it very strange that a person could appear before Congress (sent by the President presumably) and testify under oath representing our Government, and have no traceable past. I, as a citizen, would  like to find out what his background is, and that is what I keep referring to.  </p>
<p>Who is Knodell?</p>
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<p>I am also peaked and did a check and didn’t come up with much. Now I wonder who the people are that he said were he reported to, his supervisors/directors/bosses. Any one have those names?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Two of them are Tom Dreier and Sandra Evans.  I did find out that a James R. Knodell and Joyce Knodell (via Zabasearch/intellius) have had several addresses in “Virginia”, so I guess that may indicate why we can’t find him…puts on tinfoil hat…</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/lie-like-a-rug/#comment-566537</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-565880&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 191 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Margot 164:  If you should feel so inclined, please google or whatever, who James Knodell is.  He testified on behalf of the White House today (the Administration of the United States of America) and has no apparent “history”.  There is absolutely no background on this person on the Internet at all.  Personally, I find it very strange that a person could appear before Congress (sent by the President presumably) and testify under oath representing our Government, and have no traceable past. I, as a citizen, would  like to find out what his background is, and that is what I keep referring to.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who is Knodell?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am also peaked and did a check and didn’t come up with much. Now I wonder who the people are that he said were he reported to, his supervisors/directors/bosses. Any one have those names?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-565880"><em>LS @ 191 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Margot 164:  If you should feel so inclined, please google or whatever, who James Knodell is.  He testified on behalf of the White House today (the Administration of the United States of America) and has no apparent “history”.  There is absolutely no background on this person on the Internet at all.  Personally, I find it very strange that a person could appear before Congress (sent by the President presumably) and testify under oath representing our Government, and have no traceable past. I, as a citizen, would  like to find out what his background is, and that is what I keep referring to.  </p>
<p>Who is Knodell?</p>
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<p>I am also peaked and did a check and didn’t come up with much. Now I wonder who the people are that he said were he reported to, his supervisors/directors/bosses. Any one have those names?</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/lie-like-a-rug/#comment-566502</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-565745&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bookwoman @ 65 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.leadershipprofiles.com/preview.asp?docid=2_151861&amp;t=2&quot;&gt;Here’s &lt;/a&gt;a little bit more on James Knodell…&lt;br /&gt;
I’m still digging.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wonder Who owns that website? $139. to get any info from that site.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-565745"><em>bookwoman @ 65 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.leadershipprofiles.com/preview.asp?docid=2_151861&amp;t=2">Here’s </a>a little bit more on James Knodell…<br />
I’m still digging.</p>
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<p>I wonder Who owns that website? $139. to get any info from that site.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Wartenberg</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/lie-like-a-rug/#comment-566391</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Wartenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have a question: as a citizen, is there any way for me to file charges against any federal employee for making false statements?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question: as a citizen, is there any way for me to file charges against any federal employee for making false statements?</p>
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		<title>By: Fairfax</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/lie-like-a-rug/#comment-566283</link>
		<dc:creator>Fairfax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Now I’m wondering how much the Vic billed for her committee appearance?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With preparation time, etc, the RNC probably owes her thousands and thousands.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;heh, heh, heh&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I’m wondering how much the Vic billed for her committee appearance?  </p>
<p>With preparation time, etc, the RNC probably owes her thousands and thousands.</p>
<p>heh, heh, heh</p>
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