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	<title>Comments on: Head of CIA Says Valerie Wilson Was A Covert Officer</title>
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		<title>By: theExile</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/head-of-cia-says-valerie-wilson-was-a-covert-officer/#comment-565781</link>
		<dc:creator>theExile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Veritas 78: I love it! It’s perfect for a bumper sticker. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brewster &amp; Jennings —- the BJ that matters!&lt;br /&gt;
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Then on the other side of the bumper&lt;br /&gt;
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Impeachment - Not Just for BJs Anymore!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veritas 78: I love it! It’s perfect for a bumper sticker. </p>
<p><b>Brewster &amp; Jennings —- the BJ that matters!<br />
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Then on the other side of the bumper<br />
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Impeachment &#8211; Not Just for BJs Anymore!</b></p>
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		<title>By: theExile</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/head-of-cia-says-valerie-wilson-was-a-covert-officer/#comment-565776</link>
		<dc:creator>theExile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So when does the cuffed Rove frog march begin?&lt;br /&gt;
I only wish I could come to DC and watch it in person - it would be like the best parade ever!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when does the cuffed Rove frog march begin?<br />
I only wish I could come to DC and watch it in person &#8211; it would be like the best parade ever!</p>
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		<title>By: robinhood</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/head-of-cia-says-valerie-wilson-was-a-covert-officer/#comment-565606</link>
		<dc:creator>robinhood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ellen G at 85&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great observation “I don’t know whether they knew she was covert or not, but I know one thing - they did not care one wit about her status, what she did, or why she did it.” And you are right about Fitz characterization. BTW, such indifference, for legal purposes, could satisfy an intent standard.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jonathan, there may be a differnce between a temporary assignment and a&lt;br /&gt;
“business trip” that Valerie Plame likely took overseas to further her intelligence work, in terms of whether she was “serving” overseas. I think its obviously a matter of interpretation, but to lawyers these ambiguities present problems and potential reversible error. Again, no slack to Victoria Toensing, but I assume it is correct she was involved in writing that law, and her interpretation that service means “stationed” is not totally implausile. Even if this nuance made a criminal prosecution somewhat problematic, it still does not excuse Cheney/Libby/Rove conduct–they clearly leaked “classified” information at a minimum, and as Ellen G observed, they did not care that they were ruining the undercover career of an important CIA analyst.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen G at 85</p>
<p>Great observation “I don’t know whether they knew she was covert or not, but I know one thing &#8211; they did not care one wit about her status, what she did, or why she did it.” And you are right about Fitz characterization. BTW, such indifference, for legal purposes, could satisfy an intent standard.</p>
<p>Jonathan, there may be a differnce between a temporary assignment and a<br />
“business trip” that Valerie Plame likely took overseas to further her intelligence work, in terms of whether she was “serving” overseas. I think its obviously a matter of interpretation, but to lawyers these ambiguities present problems and potential reversible error. Again, no slack to Victoria Toensing, but I assume it is correct she was involved in writing that law, and her interpretation that service means “stationed” is not totally implausile. Even if this nuance made a criminal prosecution somewhat problematic, it still does not excuse Cheney/Libby/Rove conduct–they clearly leaked “classified” information at a minimum, and as Ellen G observed, they did not care that they were ruining the undercover career of an important CIA analyst.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bluetoe,&lt;br /&gt;
Fox News has been exposed as a partisan Republican operation.  They can’t even get a Presidential debate without running afoul of their own biases.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyone who takes them seriously at this point is partisan, too.  If I were Plame, I’d be honored that they insulted me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bluetoe,<br />
Fox News has been exposed as a partisan Republican operation.  They can’t even get a Presidential debate without running afoul of their own biases.</p>
<p>Anyone who takes them seriously at this point is partisan, too.  If I were Plame, I’d be honored that they insulted me.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/head-of-cia-says-valerie-wilson-was-a-covert-officer/#comment-565382</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Valerie said she had been working during the run-up to the war in Iraq. So, I’d guess she meant more to them than her relationship to her husband. In fact, it’s simply amazing that here she was working on the WMD from one direction and her husband was in Niger on a one-off trip to check on the WMD from the other direction. It’s one of those amazing coincidences that just don’t happen. I’d speculate that it might’ve been set-up that way so they could use their argument against Joe to take her out of the picture — opening the way for the Irak War and Preznit Bunnypants to be a 2-termer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All those lies and deaths to satisfy one man’s ego.  Sigh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valerie said she had been working during the run-up to the war in Iraq. So, I’d guess she meant more to them than her relationship to her husband. In fact, it’s simply amazing that here she was working on the WMD from one direction and her husband was in Niger on a one-off trip to check on the WMD from the other direction. It’s one of those amazing coincidences that just don’t happen. I’d speculate that it might’ve been set-up that way so they could use their argument against Joe to take her out of the picture — opening the way for the Irak War and Preznit Bunnypants to be a 2-termer.</p>
<p>All those lies and deaths to satisfy one man’s ego.  Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Waxman is beyond cool. He certainly handed Toensing her head on a platter at the end of today’s inquiry. He’s double-checking EVERYTHING she says, even her age. I love you, Henry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I also loved the black woman who wouldn’t let Victoria rattle on about Barry Goldwater. Toensing usually controls whatever is going on by simply overwhelming those who question her. Not today, sister.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waxman is beyond cool. He certainly handed Toensing her head on a platter at the end of today’s inquiry. He’s double-checking EVERYTHING she says, even her age. I love you, Henry.</p>
<p>And I also loved the black woman who wouldn’t let Victoria rattle on about Barry Goldwater. Toensing usually controls whatever is going on by simply overwhelming those who question her. Not today, sister.</p>
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		<title>By: Bluetoe</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/head-of-cia-says-valerie-wilson-was-a-covert-officer/#comment-565328</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluetoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just heard that the Fox News is characterizing V. Plame as a “3rd rate analyst”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just heard that the Fox News is characterizing V. Plame as a “3rd rate analyst”.</p>
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		<title>By: Veritas78</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veritas78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m sorry that no one asked Toensing if she had ever commented about the damage we suffered when Brewster-Jennings was exposed. The answer is: for someone with superb media access, she said NOT ONE WORD. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clinton’s bj? Reams of print and video. The B-J that mattered? Not one word. I think we know what secrets were important to Victoria.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.S. — can we call her a “henna-haired hussy” yet?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m sorry that no one asked Toensing if she had ever commented about the damage we suffered when Brewster-Jennings was exposed. The answer is: for someone with superb media access, she said NOT ONE WORD. </p>
<p>Clinton’s bj? Reams of print and video. The B-J that mattered? Not one word. I think we know what secrets were important to Victoria.</p>
<p>P.S. — can we call her a “henna-haired hussy” yet?</p>
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		<title>By: EllenG</title>
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		<dc:creator>EllenG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t know whether they knew she was covert or not, but I know one thing - they did not care one wit about her status, what she did, or why she did it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As Fitz said, she was not a person to them, she was not an American serving her country - she was an argument. And they were as careless with her “as an argument” as they are with the truth every time they speak.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know whether they knew she was covert or not, but I know one thing &#8211; they did not care one wit about her status, what she did, or why she did it.</p>
<p>As Fitz said, she was not a person to them, she was not an American serving her country &#8211; she was an argument. And they were as careless with her “as an argument” as they are with the truth every time they speak.</p>
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		<title>By: EllenG</title>
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		<dc:creator>EllenG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t know whether they knew she was covert or not, but I know one thing - they did not care one wit about her status, what she did, or why she did it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As Fitz said, she was a person to them, she was not an American serving her country - she was an argument.  And they were as careless with her “as an argument” as they are with the truth every time they speak.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know whether they knew she was covert or not, but I know one thing &#8211; they did not care one wit about her status, what she did, or why she did it.</p>
<p>As Fitz said, she was a person to them, she was not an American serving her country &#8211; she was an argument.  And they were as careless with her “as an argument” as they are with the truth every time they speak.</p>
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