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		<title>By: kevoy11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevoy11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-562012&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;val in canada @ 228 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-560397&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pachacutec @                 64              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jane has called me twice from the hospital already.  She’s on the bed with the tube in her arm.  Talking politics.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Heh.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; parachutec , can you buy the paperback GETTING WELL AGAIN&lt;br /&gt;
by Carl Simonton; it is on creative visualization and is very useful&lt;br /&gt;
to do every day as a meditation; i did it when i had chemo seventeen yrs ago for stage three breast cancer ( mastectomy); best thoughts for jane, i will put her in my meditation. val in canada.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jane, you’ll be in my thoughts and prayers tonight.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Val - wow, 17 years - hooray!  I’m going on 17 years, stage one.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-560397"><em>Pachacutec @                 64              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Jane has called me twice from the hospital already.  She’s on the bed with the tube in her arm.  Talking politics.</p>
<p>Heh.</p>
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<p> parachutec , can you buy the paperback GETTING WELL AGAIN<br />
by Carl Simonton; it is on creative visualization and is very useful<br />
to do every day as a meditation; i did it when i had chemo seventeen yrs ago for stage three breast cancer ( mastectomy); best thoughts for jane, i will put her in my meditation. val in canada.</p>
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<p>Jane, you’ll be in my thoughts and prayers tonight.  </p>
<p>Val &#8211; wow, 17 years &#8211; hooray!  I’m going on 17 years, stage one.</p>
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		<title>By: val in canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>val in canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-560397&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pachacutec @                 64              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jane has called me twice from the hospital already.  She’s on the bed with the tube in her arm.  Talking politics.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Heh.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; parachutec , can you buy the paperback GETTING WELL AGAIN&lt;br /&gt;
by Carl Simonton; it is on creative visualization and is very useful&lt;br /&gt;
to do every day as a meditation; i did it when i had chemo seventeen yrs ago for stage three breast cancer ( mastectomy); best thoughts for jane, i will put her in my meditation. val in canada.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>Jane has called me twice from the hospital already.  She’s on the bed with the tube in her arm.  Talking politics.</p>
<p>Heh.</p>
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<p> parachutec , can you buy the paperback GETTING WELL AGAIN<br />
by Carl Simonton; it is on creative visualization and is very useful<br />
to do every day as a meditation; i did it when i had chemo seventeen yrs ago for stage three breast cancer ( mastectomy); best thoughts for jane, i will put her in my meditation. val in canada.</p>
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		<title>By: caroline</title>
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		<dc:creator>caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Subpoenas?  Very exciting…I just wonder, will Karl show up?  I mean, the guy has been hiding under a rock for a long time… &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDaRFf7Cd6M&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDaRFf7Cd6M&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Karl, where aaarrreee you?   LOL, from Americablog.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subpoenas?  Very exciting…I just wonder, will Karl show up?  I mean, the guy has been hiding under a rock for a long time… <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDaRFf7Cd6M">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDaRFf7Cd6M</a></p>
<p>Karl, where aaarrreee you?   LOL, from Americablog.</p>
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		<title>By: Amilius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amilius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Might it be time to revive ‘tar, feathers, and rail’?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The reason I posted about there being foreknowledge that building 7 of the World Trade Center was going to be blown up was that I was curious if they were using the KSM thing to divert our attention. But, soon after I posted I also realized there was another direct connection: if KSM was the planner (”A-Z”) behind 9/11, then I have to wonder if he also planted the explosives in building 7 to prepare it for it’s owner (Jewish, I believe) to ‘pull’ it after discussing that with the mayor and in public with the press watching?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seems KSM has some friends in strange places.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I posted about there being foreknowledge that building 7 of the World Trade Center was going to be blown up was that I was curious if they were using the KSM thing to divert our attention. But, soon after I posted I also realized there was another direct connection: if KSM was the planner (”A-Z”) behind 9/11, then I have to wonder if he also planted the explosives in building 7 to prepare it for it’s owner (Jewish, I believe) to ‘pull’ it after discussing that with the mayor and in public with the press watching?</p>
<p>Seems KSM has some friends in strange places.</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
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		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Puesto,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have a feeling that the Masters of DC make it their business to get something on everyone who gets elected there, if they can’t find something they’ll engineer it.  Too much lockstep to be just people hoping for a turn at the trough.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And stupid?  Very likey, they are the best at doing stupid things and getting caught at it.  Somebody in DC has a very fine &lt;a href=&quot;http://tomflocco.com/fs/PhotographerTied.htm&quot;&gt;photo collection&lt;/a&gt;. (note:  this links to an article abt the photographer, not to photos!)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Puesto,</p>
<p>I have a feeling that the Masters of DC make it their business to get something on everyone who gets elected there, if they can’t find something they’ll engineer it.  Too much lockstep to be just people hoping for a turn at the trough.  </p>
<p>And stupid?  Very likey, they are the best at doing stupid things and getting caught at it.  Somebody in DC has a very fine <a href="http://tomflocco.com/fs/PhotographerTied.htm">photo collection</a>. (note:  this links to an article abt the photographer, not to photos!)</p>
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		<title>By: Degnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Degnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“From Nixon to Bush, Rove is the single continuous character involved in the tactics and strategy of political subterfuge.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not quite right - Dick Cheney was an intern in the Nixon administration as well.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“From Nixon to Bush, Rove is the single continuous character involved in the tactics and strategy of political subterfuge.”</p>
<p>Not quite right &#8211; Dick Cheney was an intern in the Nixon administration as well.  </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney</a></p>
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		<title>By: Puesto</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/15/red-rover-red-rover-can-rover-come-over/#comment-560694</link>
		<dc:creator>Puesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Slick (like the Clintons) slippery (like Bush — pathological lying) and &lt;b&gt;SLIMY&lt;/b&gt; (Like Rove-sputin)are all a little different.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Repugnicans on the committee are smart. They empower the Slime-ball King - Rove - to SHRED, SHRED, DISSEMBLE and launder his line of Bullshit for another week. Is there any politician in Washington smart enough to get this guy?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have been told by ex-Senate staffers that most Congress people are dumb as a box of rocks. Their failure to be able to get Rove is proof positive.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From the AP:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The committee’s postponement of consideration of subpoenas for White House officials gives Bush’s presidential lawyer, Fred Fielding, time to consider what, if any, conditions should be imposed if the aides testify voluntarily. Fielding said he would let Schumer and other lawmakers know on Friday whether the administration is still willing to talk about that prospect, or whether Congress would have to compel testimony from Rove, Miers and Kelley.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sad town, that Washington. The good guys are too dumb or too afraid to alienate the ephemeral “middle” to stop corruption in its tracks. Sad state of affairs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rove and DOJ is giving us a gift, but no one is smart enough to take it and run.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slick (like the Clintons) slippery (like Bush — pathological lying) and <b>SLIMY</b> (Like Rove-sputin)are all a little different.</p>
<p>The Repugnicans on the committee are smart. They empower the Slime-ball King &#8211; Rove &#8211; to SHRED, SHRED, DISSEMBLE and launder his line of Bullshit for another week. Is there any politician in Washington smart enough to get this guy?</p>
<p>I have been told by ex-Senate staffers that most Congress people are dumb as a box of rocks. Their failure to be able to get Rove is proof positive.</p>
<p>From the AP:</p>
<blockquote><p>The committee’s postponement of consideration of subpoenas for White House officials gives Bush’s presidential lawyer, Fred Fielding, time to consider what, if any, conditions should be imposed if the aides testify voluntarily. Fielding said he would let Schumer and other lawmakers know on Friday whether the administration is still willing to talk about that prospect, or whether Congress would have to compel testimony from Rove, Miers and Kelley.</p>
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<p>Sad town, that Washington. The good guys are too dumb or too afraid to alienate the ephemeral “middle” to stop corruption in its tracks. Sad state of affairs.</p>
<p>Rove and DOJ is giving us a gift, but no one is smart enough to take it and run.</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
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		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-560512&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mandrake @&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;If I had the $ right now, I’d take out pet insurance.  Seriously.  My 3 furballs are getting on in years so unexpected things are going to come up, even with them being strictly indoors.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m glad your kitty has mended and is hopefully purring on demand!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have a friend here at work who used to live in Canada and were just talking yesterday about the whole insurance thing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In discussing my insurance issues (I lost my insurance and now, of course, I have a pre-existing condition so the only plan I can get is twice as much as the plan I had before), I just looked at him and smiled and said, sing-song:  “And yet we’re the greeeaaatest country in the woooorrrld!!!!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PS - the funny thing about all this is that when it all came down, I was actually denied on the basis of having a psychiatric diagnosis.  I guess they just ticked me off before they even got to the cancer part.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You know, there is absolutely *no* excuse for this!  I went over to the WHO and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www3.who.int/whosis/core/core_select_process.cfm?strISO3_select=ALL&amp;strIndicator_select=TotEOHPctOfGDP,GovEOHPctOfTotEOH,PrvEOHPctOfTotEOH,GovEOHPctOfTotGovExp,ExtResPctOfTotEOH,SocSecEOHPctOfGovEOH,OopEOHPctOfPrvEOH,PrepaidPctOfPrvEOH,PcTotEOHinUSD,PcTotEOHinIntD,PcGovEOHinUSD,PcGovEOHinIntD&amp;intYear_select=latest&amp;fixed=indicator&amp;language=english&quot;&gt;pulled some stats&lt;/a&gt;, the US *govt* spent $ 2548 per capita on its citizens’ health care in 2003, add that to user-paid and insurance-paid you have $ 5711 — the absolute highest on earth, btw.  For comparison, the Cdn govt spent $ 1866 per capita and insurance and user-pay brought it up to $ 2669. (all US dollar equiv’s, stats from 2003).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Really, folks, the difference between private health care and public health care is *profit*.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now govrnment-sponsored PetHIP (Pet Health Insurance Plan) is one I’d be delighted to go with.  The private plans are fairly expensive and I have 6 of the beasts so by the time I’d paid the premiums I could basically have my own vet on staff.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>If I had the $ right now, I’d take out pet insurance.  Seriously.  My 3 furballs are getting on in years so unexpected things are going to come up, even with them being strictly indoors.</p>
<p>I’m glad your kitty has mended and is hopefully purring on demand!</p>
<p>I have a friend here at work who used to live in Canada and were just talking yesterday about the whole insurance thing.</p>
<p>In discussing my insurance issues (I lost my insurance and now, of course, I have a pre-existing condition so the only plan I can get is twice as much as the plan I had before), I just looked at him and smiled and said, sing-song:  “And yet we’re the greeeaaatest country in the woooorrrld!!!!”</p>
<p>PS &#8211; the funny thing about all this is that when it all came down, I was actually denied on the basis of having a psychiatric diagnosis.  I guess they just ticked me off before they even got to the cancer part.</p>
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<p>You know, there is absolutely *no* excuse for this!  I went over to the WHO and <a href="http://www3.who.int/whosis/core/core_select_process.cfm?strISO3_select=ALL&amp;strIndicator_select=TotEOHPctOfGDP,GovEOHPctOfTotEOH,PrvEOHPctOfTotEOH,GovEOHPctOfTotGovExp,ExtResPctOfTotEOH,SocSecEOHPctOfGovEOH,OopEOHPctOfPrvEOH,PrepaidPctOfPrvEOH,PcTotEOHinUSD,PcTotEOHinIntD,PcGovEOHinUSD,PcGovEOHinIntD&amp;intYear_select=latest&amp;fixed=indicator&amp;language=english">pulled some stats</a>, the US *govt* spent $ 2548 per capita on its citizens’ health care in 2003, add that to user-paid and insurance-paid you have $ 5711 — the absolute highest on earth, btw.  For comparison, the Cdn govt spent $ 1866 per capita and insurance and user-pay brought it up to $ 2669. (all US dollar equiv’s, stats from 2003).</p>
<p>Really, folks, the difference between private health care and public health care is *profit*.</p>
<p>Now govrnment-sponsored PetHIP (Pet Health Insurance Plan) is one I’d be delighted to go with.  The private plans are fairly expensive and I have 6 of the beasts so by the time I’d paid the premiums I could basically have my own vet on staff.</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
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		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-560516&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bustednuckles @&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OT,&lt;br /&gt;
I have tried looking this up with no luck.&lt;br /&gt;
Can someone tell me what the heck this is?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;y!sctp!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;‘Yes! &lt;a href=&quot;http://xnerg.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;Skippy&lt;/a&gt; coined that phrase!’ (re blogtopia)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>OT,<br />
I have tried looking this up with no luck.<br />
Can someone tell me what the heck this is?</p>
<p>y!sctp!</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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<p>‘Yes! <a href="http://xnerg.blogspot.com/">Skippy</a> coined that phrase!’ (re blogtopia)</p>
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