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You guys are going to have to forgive me if I'm a little cynical about the timing of these revelations:
Mohammed claimed responsibility for planning, financing, and training others for bombings ranging from the 1993 attack at the World Trade Center to the attempt by would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight with explosives hidden in his shoes.
In all, Mohammed said he was responsible for planning 29 individual attacks, including many that were never executed. The comments were included in a 26-page transcript released by the Pentagon, which also blacked out some of his remarks.
What, you mean the parts where he was screaming, "Oh, God, please make it stop! I'll say whatever you want! No more, please! AHHHH, GOD, NOOOOOO!! NOOOOOO!!"?
CNN has this particularly ghoulish new wrinkle:
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Admitted 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed told a U.S. military tribunal he personally beheaded Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl in 2002, the Pentagon revealed Thursday.
"I decapitated with my blessed right hand the head of the American Jew, Daniel Pearl, in the city of Karachi, Pakistan," said a Pentagon transcript of Saturday's hearing. "For those who would like to confirm, there are pictures of me on the Internet holding his head."
(Ooooh! How long do you suppose it's going to take KSFO Snuff Radio to dig that up and put it on their website? I should think that the countdown has already begun, chickens!)
Yes, look! Over there! Arabs are violent and evil! Pay no attention to the Presidential Aide behind the curtain!
By golly, if there's one thing the American public will drop whatever it's doing to run and see, it's a severed head. The only way this story could soak up any more air-time now would be if Anna Nicole Smith's breast implants were involved.
It's still unlcear whether Khalid had any role in the cancellation of "Arrested Development" or the soon-to-be-uncovered foiled terror plot to keep Daylight Savings Time from coming a month early.
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Attack!
trex!
Look, over here…
TRex!
Good, uh, morning. Ish.
You mean they got a terrorist to admit, under torture, that he’s a…terrorist?
Hey, I guess torture really DOES work…
*blink, blink*
Rove just now on CNN, speech at Troy State University.
Superheated political rhetoric…Clinton did it too…everybody who’s talking about it should be looking at him dumping 123 USAs. [my paraphrase, dumping]
Karligula feeling the heat much?
EPU’d from last thread but on topic here:
Biodun @ 157
It may be true and it may not. About this confession. But I for one wouldn’t trust a damn thing coming out of the Bush gang. Now if we can just connect this guy to Iran.
Yep, them Pubbies love their Snuff!
Meanwhile the Dems are drunk on near-beer.
They said the ‘b’ word that gets every winger trembling in their fall-out shelter: beheaded .
There is no greater fear for a winger fundagelical with sever anxiety about the chaotic, randomly violent world than to have the head disconnected from the body.
TRex, you okay, hon?
It’s going to get harder and harder for these jerks to pull this manouver off.There are too many high profile scandals to cover up.
Subpoenas are flying like a blizzard and every damn high official in (and out of) office is trying to reflect the sunlight somewhere else.
Bright and shiny is going to have a different meaning.
What I find most despicable about this whole KSM matter is that he is most likely the murderer of NY Times journalist Daniel Pearle…one of the more repellent acts in these repellent times.
Yet the military thugishness surrounding his detainment has clouded even his confessions in many peoples eyes…mine included.
Had the US chosen to stand up for a the rule of law instead of bending and twisting all of the rules this would be a triumph.
Instead it is something that is under a cloud of controversy..as most things in the assministration tend to be.
-GSD
Hillary is no brighter than Bush. At least on Iraq, Iran and the rest of the Middle East.
It’s a cloudy day here and kind of cool. This really confuses me. Who should I blame, Trex? Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or Bill Clinton?
Prairie Sunshine @ 7
The more they writhe and shriek, the more effective the wooden stake. Kepp driving that baby home.
Yeah, and I bet this same guy was responsible for the Jimmy Hoffa disappearance. Oh, and Hurricane Katrina.
Nice try, assholes.
Ok, I’m completely skeptical about the KSH “revelations” (how many of us predicted there would be some big terror “news” released this week?) My question is, how many regular Joes (or should I say regular GOBs) believe it’s not a coincidence?
Let me add that someone does need to be held accountable for Arrested Development’s cancellation. I still taste the sad.
BTW, OT but it’s bugging me… has anyone followed up on what Rumsfeld’s up to? His “transition office” was set up for approximately six weeks, and he was using paid Pentagon staff to “review documents” and “help the transition to Gates”. Do we know if he’s actually left, or is he still in operation, pulling all the strings in the shadows?
Tithonia @ 12
Oh, fine. I just didn’t know I was doing this post until about a half hour before it went up. I’m still on my second cup of coffee.
And a couple weeks from now, or whichever Friday dump day resignation to spend more time with his Gonzales family comes first, it’ll finally come out that whatever KSM admitted to, Team BushCo’s been sitting on the information for at least seven Friedmans waiting for the need for a really big shiny object moment.
Even Imus wasn’t buyin’ this one….
I want to see the right explain why he wanted to kill Carter and Clinton.
According to the right, those two enabled this big bad enemy.
Do you think they will have the insight to think again? That maybe it really is Georgie and his friends that are supporting the enemy with their war games?
And where is the outrage from the right about former US presidents getting death threats or the disappointment that the terrorists did not succeed in killing Clinton/ Carter?
Oh I forgot. They are Democrats. It doesn’t count!
TRex in the morning! What a treat.
Does this mean we can declare victory in the GWOT? Sounds like this guy pretty much did it all. Let’s move on to prosecute the evildoers in the White House.
There, there, darling.
*pat, pat*
Hillary fits the model of a foreign policy neocon. And I am not sure that this woman is not a closet anti-gay.
From the AP link in me @ 8:
Ah. I thought Saddam was responsible.
TREX!!! LOOK AWAY FROM THE LIGHT!!! DON’T GO NEAR THE LIGHT!!!
Come on, little therapod, walk towards my voice. That’s it.
Now give that over-bright shiny object a whack with your tail. Just don’t look at it when you do it.
* THWACK! *
TRex @ 19
Good. You were sounding a little monosyllabic….
Prairie Sunshine @
7
Too bad for Karl that the news media’s already picked up on Kyle Sampson’s January 9, 2006 e-mail wherein he says that no, Clinton DIDN’T do it too.
I love the smell of TRex in the (late) morning!
Biodun @ 26
I thought it was our fault!
Whew, that’s a relief.
KKKarl,with the great big bullseye on his back.
BWAAAAHHAAAAAAAHHHAAAAAAAAA!
TeddySanFran @ 23
It’s a wrap.
Where’s the champagne?
-GSD
By the way, Eric Alterman reminds us all what, exactly, Scooter Libby’s bosses destroyed when they burned a NOC. It’s a concise description of what this is all about.
Mohammed also confessed to ordering the attack of the clones…
Hugh @
16
Clearly, blame TRex.
I’m right there with you TRex. The Nexus of Politics and Terror, once again. Closed hearings. His own lawyers not present. Torture likely. Transcript redacted. And all as the s*it is hitting the fan in this perfect storm of scandals. “Everybody turn your rage on that guy over there! Remember 9/11? He’s your enemy!”
And please, let’s sit down and talk about the practice of beheading chickens in…some parts of the world.
Letme join the voices wondering about the timing of this,much like the London conspiracy that was fast-tracked into the headlines the morning after Elephant Joe got thrashed in the primary.
How many other newsy tidbits will they throw to the blogwolves, as each card falls?
It might be an interesting perspective to backtrack the headlines and see just how serindipitous ts of news stories have been.
I think maybe Pach or Scarecrow did this once before for us, took a look back at these coincidental “releases” (sounds like bad gas) in hindsight, it is SO 20-20…
Breast implants? Nah. If the Sheik would cop to beheading Anna Nicole Smith, and/or shaving Britney’s head, then we’d see some really fine journalism at work…
Phoenix Woman @ 30
You like this? It’s Xeryus by Givenchy. It was big in the 80’s, but it still smells delicious to me.
KSM also confessed to having tawt he taw a putty tat.
This “confession” has the suffocating stink of Rove and Cheney. These guys still think they’re talking to turnips, I guess.
You know, I rather miss the Terror Alert Rainbow. Whenever they escalated we could make all kinds of silly, colorful jokes about duct tape and the benefits of ‘orrified orange over chickenshit yellow.
And now, with the snuff films? not so much.
I grieve for poor Mrs. Pearl, to have to go through this crap every time they decide that they have to use her deceased husband like so much facial tissue.
diane @ 22
Yes, there is much cheering of those prospects over at LGF and the other’s I am sure. Greenwald already highlighted some of the cheerleading…you know they want to parole KSM so he can enact those two plans.
The wingers must also be a bit sad that KSM was unable to enact the Coulter Plan at the NYT’s building and take out the whole staff.
Guess they’ll have to be content with the phony anthrax attack on John Edwards today…such a letdown.
-GSD
Or was that you, Trex?
Hey, have you read this article from Slate’s Jacob Weisberg, where he reports that during the AEI conference, there was a lot of support for how the Crusades were just dandy? Apparently, a lot of Jewish conservatives at the conference were buying into it, which Wiesberg points out is rather astonishing.
Why are these Neocons Cheering The Crusades?
GSD @ 14
YES.
I think the KSH “list of bad” was sent out prematurely to divert attention from the AG scandal; but because it’s a rush job, they’ve left some stuff on it that can’t be sustained. They are in such disarray that they are now stepping on their own toes. I’m beginning to enjoy this.
and how about the big shiny surge
But there is a very good possibility that the Baghdad operation will appear to be successful in the short-term. Guerrillas tend to avoid straight up confrontations with conventional forces. When the second battle of Falluja took place in November 2004, most of the insurgents evaporated–and fighting erupted in cities largely abandoned by U.S. troops. Mosul, for example. That could be an early consequence of the plus-up in Baghdad: fighting intensifies elsewhere in the country. Or–more likely–the guerrillas could just go to ground for six months until the U.S. troops withdraw to the periphery of Baghdad. That’s why counterinsurgency experts insist that these sorts of operations take years to complete. That’s why the administration is being irresponsible when it says that we’ll see results in a matter of months. We may, but they’ll probably be illusory.
Joe Klein in early January
http://time-blog.com/swampland/ 2…eems_to_be.html
TRex: I have some ideas for a Late Nite. Feel free to either run with them or ignore.
The neocon “lessons” for Bush deserve wider coverage. That luncheon paints a picture of our boy king being easily manipulated by the neo-con cabal. It’s shocking how effective their cheap flattery is (Bush is one better than Churchill because he isn’t godless).
Being so susceptible to flattery and their other tricks is not strong, it’s weak. Very weak. If you ask me, this luncheon was a total Emperor’s New Clothes moment. And as Hans Christian showed, the best way to expose that kind of weakness is through ridicule. And you, sir, are the past master of that. Attack, attack, attaaaacckk!
I think you’d have especially good material weaving this neocon malarkey together with choice bits from Glenn Greenwald’s post The right-wing cult of contrived masculinity. The bit where Ann Coulter says of the flight-suit stunt “It’s hard to imagine any Democrat being able to do that.” is especially ridicule-ripe (follow the Atrios link at the bottom for Glenn’s post).
Submitting to “lessons” from neocons isn’t a model of masculine strength. It’s bordering on the batshit insane. It would be awesome if you could get that message out in your own inimitable way.
Another coincidence? The confession, and the Demo front runner saying if she’s elected prez she will essentially continue the Iraq war.
FDLers:
So far 2007 has been something else, hasn’t it? Everyday some shit happens, all raining on this administration and its criminal practices. Remember in December Christy saying again and again: Is January here yet? January has come and gone. And the shit is still raining…And may it continue to rain, till January 2009.
At least Xeryus is appropriate for daytime. It’d be a shame if you were caught wearing evening fragrance now.
Surprised they didn’t manage to get KSH to cop to that, too. “Yes, I wore a men’s evening fragrance at breakfast.”
Phoenix Woman @ 34
This is must reading, everyone. Thanks, PW!
Why is Novak sitting so cozy in the bosom of the ComPost? Prominently featured on the website homepage?
To borrow a phrase…. Those who harbor the treasonous….
Hill to Democrats: If you don’t like what I ’stand for’, then screw you. Vote for someone else.
Well now ,
What I’m not hearing here is what the hell is next on their agenda for this guy.
They must be planning a huge bash for the most definite death watch.
I mean, house arrest is only for rich white people, right?
Rayne @ 54
They would already have executed him for that.
David Ehrenstein @
10
David E.: John Edwards is your go-to guy for unequivocal statements concerning the morality of gayness. He doesn’t back marriage, but does back civil unions so long as the participants have all the legal rights that usually flow from marriage. (In other words, he doesn’t want to force the Pope to hold gay weddings in the Vatican, but he does want gay couples to be able to own property and have kids and be recognized in wills and such.)
Of course for the Republicans to now claim the surge is working means that they have to retroactively admit that things were horrible.
So are they now going to cop to misleading America about how wonderful things were and “how much good was going on” in Iraq that wasn’t being reported by the evil media.
Madness.
-GSD
TRex @ 41
Dang! I thought it was Old Spice. I was going to ask if you’d been raiding my dad’s medicine cabinet again.
JEP @ 39
It was someone on tv.
I’ve got the transcript somewhere.
I enjoy the work of Jeff Koons. Thanks for featuring it, TRex.
Maybe you can work in Koons’ sculpture of Michael Jackson and the chimp the next time you write about George W.:
link
portia.vz @
11
Interesting. It’s not like they’d miss it or anything…
Whoops–Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh was already sentenced to death in Pakistan for killing Pearl–because of this, they might have to let him go. Find the real killer, Omar!
Phoenix Woman @ 34
Dang – I didn’t realize Hohlt had faxed a preview copy of Bob Novak’s article (identifying Plame as CIA) prior to the article’s publication. So, this means Rove was aware this classified info was being released. Amazing.
How Novak has any column in any paper or any presence on TV is beyond my comprehension.
I hope Congressional subpoenas will go out to Hohlt, Rove, Libby, Cheney and others. It will be interesting to see if they refuse to testify because of pending litigation.
CNN is running a tag, “True Confessions?”
The “?” says it all. This ain’t gonna fly!!
The Murry Waas story is huge over at Kos.
Obstruction of Justice.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 55
Us to Hill: We don’t like what you stand for. We will vote for someone else.
Ooops. Defective link in my prior comment. This one should work:
http://www.thecityreview.com/s01scon1a.gif
From AP:
What a f*cking dunce. The king in his palace, taking an hour to meet a leader of and from a faraway land, while his kingdom falls apart around him.
“The CIA also reportedly abducted his seven- and nine-year-old sons and flew them to the United States for interrogation.”
Kinda makes you sick, don’t it.
Thinkprogress link.
-GSD
That was hilarious…..
Tragic what has been used for the old smoke and mirrors trick…..
egregious @ 62
Olbermann did a terrific program a while after the 2004 elections showing the timing of the “terror alerts”, the real underlying information/falsification underneath them, and how they were most active during the 2004 campaign but suddenly stopped after election day. The timeline was even more stunning than I’d realized. He tied news events & election polling directly to reported terror threats.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he would have (or already has) done the same on these nuggets of confessions/alleged terror plots.
LJ/Aquaria—
Did I remember correctly that as a postal carrier you asked people not to tape return envelopes to large heavy objects?
The View audience is applauding Rosie wildly when she raises the coincidence of these wide-ranging KSH confessions during such a bad week for BushCo after they have held him for years. Blonde Admin apologist claims G-Bay works!
No one but the cheeto-eaters is taking this seriously. In this instance, that’s good news, but what happens when it is really time to duck and cover? Who will believe our West Wing overlords then?
Ok, so the gonzo scandal distracted attention from the Walter Reed scandal, and the “…clenis did it too…” defense laughably did not work distracting from the gonzo scandal, so it is time to whip out (for the pleasure of the president…?) the:
mean nasty scary terra distraction.
Neatly wrapping into one package a number of memes: War on terra. Tough on crime. Torture “works”. Scary brown people. “We” have a scapegoat. Never mind hasn’t-bin-seen, here is the mastermind. We made it safer for you.
Masterful propaganda, but blanantly obvious.
Ex-GOP senator: Rove tried to influence selection of Chicago prosecutor
Former Republican Sen. Peter Fitzgerald says Karl Rove tried to keep him from recruiting a new U.S. attorney from outside Illinois to tackle allegations of corruption in the state.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onde…..tor_r.html
Whoops! LOL
Are there any plans to waterboard, torture or abduct the children of the Chiquita Banana Board of Directors?
-GSD
egregious @ 75
That’s right. We just throw ‘em away. And a perpetrator had better hope s/he isn’t caught trying to pull it off. Some of us itch to have the Postal Inspectors slap somebody around over that for mail fraud. Which it is.
Now I remember KO’s KO, it knocked the socks off their lies and obfuscations…
Hindsight IS 20-20, especially when the guilty parties are so arrogant, they proceeded after the election as if Republicans still control both houses.
Even anounce of humility might make them assuage their message and change their tactics, but they just don’t “get it.”
They stillconsider themselves the smartest people in the room, as their dunce-caps droop form long wear.
I meant blatantly…
Oh–and I’m not a carrier. I’m a clerk. I process mail to/from carriers.
Awful job, but somebody has to do it.
I fail to see much difference on the issue of the Middle East between Senators Lieberman and Clinton. And for that matter, Bush.
JEP,
You can probably find that piece on Keith O archived at Crooks and Liars.
Look for “nexus of politics and terrorism”.
-GSD
But what about Saddam??? Did he say anything about Saddam???
Shit, Jack Bauer would have gotten that out of him…
GSD @
78
They will make them listen to Charo
GSD @ 71
If this proves true, there will be hell to pay…
twolf1 @ 87
Aw. I was hoping for Carmen Miranda!
LJ/Aquaria @ 82
Thanks LJ/Aquaria. I remembered someone asking us not to mail horrible things and thought it was you. I hope you’ll tell us more sometime about things that jam up the mail processing machines.
egregious @
62
Olbermann will no doubt add KSH’s wide-ranging confessions to his “Nexus of Politics & Terror” feature, in which he lines up bad news for BushCo with subsequent terror alerts. For more information, from 2003, about KSH’s seven- and nine-year-old sons, see Jeralyn. This news was clearly underreported in the March to War on Iraq.
Let’s see, this last week we’ve had:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/10/21556/5045
Halliburton moving to Dubai
Stockmarket problems (Subprime mortgages, etc.)
Abu Gonzales
Rove/Gonzales/Rove/Gonzales
And, oh yeah, I almost forgot, Valerie Plame to testify tomorrow…
What have I missed?
TRex, you are in rare form today. This is howlingly funny. Can’t believe you came up with it with only a half-hour’s notice!
JEP @
87
Are you kidding. These men were probably given medals. This was a tactic used in Iraq too.
-GSD
Thanks “G”, I found it, and it will be easy for KO to update, this string of black pearls just keeps getting longer, and they all seem to look identical the next on on the chain, it is a pattern that can not be denied.
As a whole, the deception story is obvious in hindsight, but there’s no doubt the neocons have been masters at pre-emptive news releases.
We tend to concentrate more on the individual pearls, missing the obvious string of pearls as a “whole” concept.
Olberman saw it lining up, and strung them all together to show us the whole picture. And it keeps getting longer…
Hillary just will not give this Democrat a break.
What jams up the machines? Who would want to know stuff like that? ;)
Valentine’s day was a nightmare.
Fox News website main headline:
‘I Decapitated With My Hand
American Jew, Daniel Pearl’
Who would have known.
-GSD
Cozumel @ 79
Oops, indeed.
Broke into the wrong goddamn rec room, didn’t ya Karl?
It’s becomming all to vivid. I can almost visualise it. Democratic members of my family and Demo friends telling me in 2008: But kiddo, you’ve just got to vote for Hillary in the ‘general’! What choice have we?
http://www.rudepundit.blogspot.com
The Rude Pundit’s offering today lays out a few more of Khalid Sheik Belushi’s “confessed” crimes. He left out a few, though:
1. He let the dogs out (woof woofwoof)
2. Drove Mark Chapman over to the Dakota on 12/8/80;
3. Had the point rifle on the Grassy knoll on 22 Nov.
4. Put the benzedrine in Mrs. Murphy’s Ovaltine
(there’s a way-backer for someofya)
5. Pimped the Corvair big time to GM board;
6. Final hull inspector for Exxon Valdez;
7. Ordered the O-rings for Challenger;
8. Put Buckner on first in Game 6 of the ‘86 series;
9. Convinced McLean Stevenson to leave “M-A-S-H” for “Hello Larry”
10. Sold the gun that shot J.R.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 95
For me the question is what to do if she turns out to be the candidate. I can’t vote for the war to continue.
Yes, and don’t forget, Gonzalez’s boyfriend, err, “aide” and “traveling companion” Kyle Samspon has resigned but technically is still there. How do you resign but retain your job?
What’s the definition of shiny-insanity again?
OfT: Orangerie March strawness is up here.
“KSM… were you on the grassy knowl?” [zzzzzzpppzzzzts] ….. “YES”
“KSM… were you in the Ford Theater and assignate Lincoln” …[zzzzzzzzpppsssts]….. “YES”
“KSM… are you the Unabomber?…[zzzzzppppzztps]… “HELL YES”
“KSM…. did you poison that Russian guy with polonium?” …[zzzzzppppzzztpsts]…”YES”
…and he kidnapped the Lindbergh baby, too.
CNN QuickVote: Do you believe all of the claims allegedly made by accused 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed?
tbsa @ 101
This is the essential question. ;0)
From BBC (the Beeb, Auntie):
My bold. Ah. Here’s where Gonzo and KSM collide, the nexus, as Keith would have it.
twolf1 @
86
Quip of the day. Thanks T.
Does anyone really pay any attention to this Sheik Mohammed guy while the shit is flying all over the place? What can he possibly admit to that we haven’t already figured out? (Well, he says he wasn’t in on the Pope in Indonesia assassination attempt.)
Maybe he was also responsible for Katrina, the 2004 Tsunamis and Earthquakes in Pakistan. He probably also strangled Atilla the Hun with his long silky hair. Maybe Brutus and Cassius were part of his Roman sleeper cell that did in Julius Caesar. I’ll bet he even had a hand in killing the Archduke Ferdinand.
Please! There are only so many places a guy can be at once.
from the salon story linked to your post trex, I just had to quote the following, bold is of course mine;
. Gonzales’ and Miers’ service is notable for their obedience, lack of originality and eagerness to act as tools.
man, I would love to add that monica to every discription of abu torture;
“you are not only a marionette and a tool for these people, you are inept”
stuff like that will turn him against the president…he does at least THINK he has some pride to protect
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s tentacles reach very very far. He just made me spurt diet coke on my keyboard.
Did KSM also confess to disabling all the surveillance cameras at the Pentagon?
Did KSM confess to giving the gov’t the original DNA samples needed to confirm against the hijackers remains?
Wow, KSM sure did one heck of a confession. We can all rest easy and simply believe what were are told by Bush Co. After all it is all their in the transcriptions.
GSD at 14: Danny Pearl worked for the Wall Street Journal, not the NYTimes.
I think he got or was getting too close to things best not publicized, from the viewpoint of some politicians. Was the Pakistani ISI involved? How much did Bush know?
KSM admits he forgot to put the toilet seat down.
The only atrocity he doesn’t lay claim to is Coke Classic. Also, would an Arabic speaker use an idiom like “from A to Z”? Or, should I say, is there an Arabic construction that would make the translator think of that idiom?
This is where the Blogosphere excels.
We ain’t fallin for that shit,Karl.
We want to know more about what YOU have been up to, TURDblossom.
And when is Abu going to resign?
You know, THE IMPORTANT STUFF!!
GSD @
14
It is certainly interesting that these death penalty fans have made it a whole lot harder to apply it to this guy.
Also, doesn’t this just look ridiculous? That the successful operations are aberrations? That the WTC attack used up all their competent operatives?
KSM wore the blue dress.
TRex-
I can’t believe that you and all the others have missed one of the most important events that have occurred in the US that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has also admitted to…..the actual assassin of JFK…..
If Clinton is the front runner does that mean that the Senator has most of the other Democratic elected officials and other Demo movers and shakers, etc., in her pocket?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 9
I am amazed they didn’t torture out of him that his base is now IN Iran
easy enough to get a torture prospect to say anything at all
ANS back in the news. I guess the KSM story is not working.
I didn’t vote for Kerry. If my party thinks I will vote for Hillary they are sorely mistaken.
Just this week I have read her support of torture and continued military occupation in Iraq.
She is Duncan Hunter with makeup.
It seems to me — all the money in the world cannot turn Hillary into an attractive candidate. She’s a dork.
msnbc.com still gives top billing to Abugate. KSM story is second.
Yep, SHINY! Now, what was that point was going to making? Oh, yeah, did anyone recall that Scooter essentially rolled over and took the fall for the Vice President and Karl Rove in terms of committing TREASON? And then Karl Rove surfaced as a political puppet master, holding the strings to that little Punch bag, Alberto Gonzalez.
Is there actually enough SHINY in the world to distract the media from real investigation? It’s not like the public has been fooled by this crap before. Wait! Is that anthrax I smell!!!???? Drop everything, no time to investigate. For god’s sake man, that stuff that smells like baby powder could kill you!
Oklahoma kiddo @
52
quote of the year (from the Hil):
“Well, the buck has to stop somewhere.”
OT:
The Governator just signed the bill that will move the California primary to February.
Out of the SF Chronicle website are 2 great cartoons for your attention: (Trex shouldn’t look at them until he is awake)
Badreporter
Fiore’s Gonzo cartoon
wait a second, didn’t Zarqawi claim he had decapitated Pearl?
KSM confessed to kidnapping ALL missing white, blonde girls.
Snowballs on cspan3.
So, not only do we want Abu Gonzo fired, but we want him off the 1600 Penn. property. That’s trhe problem–they lose their jobs but don’t have to leave. They just stay there wishing they had a job to shove.
Oh, guess it was Mr. Berg. Got my decapitations confused I suppose. But I really thought at some point I heard Z. claimed responsibility.
That’s the first thing I thought of, too. You put this guys balls in a vice for long enough and he’ll confess to the assassination of Abraham Lincoln.
fbi ‘wiretappings’ scandal
mayans ‘cleaning house’ after bush visit
‘riots’ and protestors wherever bush went
still dealing with walter reed lies and fallout-resignations this past week.
hearings going on in about every committee on the hill……..
Is Khalid Sheikh Mohammed a mercenary? Has he ever gotten a Halliburton Brick? Ya know, one of those bricks of cash….
dmac @ 138
“All in all its just… another week in the brawl”
Sing along, you all know the tune…
1,455 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen oklahoma kiddo andthe Firepup Patriots:
Do ya think that Mrs. Clinton has seen the handwritin’ on the chalkboard and knows that she’s NOT gunna get the nomination…leavin’ the track open for the other major corporatist shill, Mr. Obama? I think Obama and Clintonista are lookin’ to consolidate against the Samurai breathin down their necks…thatid be Big Al Gore.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION THE WAR IS A LONG WAY FROM OVER!!!
Re Hillary, is it any wonder? She couldn’t make a simple statement rejecting the notion that homosexuality is immoral. I mean how radical is it for any of us to declare respect for the personal rights and choices of others? It isn’t, but it is for Hillary.
As for Iraq, she supported the disaster there for nearly 4 years, longer then some neocons. She continues to refuse to apologize for that support. For her, it is a character issue. How true that is although not in the way she thinks.
A few things need to be said about her current position on Iraq. In the minds of Establishment Democrats and DINOs, the ideas of withdrawal and keeping troops in Iraq are not mutually contradictory. Forces would be kept in the country for training, border control, and anti-al Qaeda operations. All others would be redeployed out of Iraq. If you look at the various Senate resolutions from Biden’s to Reid’s (SJ9)which is now being debated, they contain these provisions.
The cognitive dissonance with Hillary, however, comes from her supposed support for withdrawal without emphasizing that her definition of it is not the one most of the country uses.
Of course, the reason Senate Republicans are willing to debate these resolutions at all is because Turncoat Joe gives them the vote they need to defeat them. It will be interesting how anti-war Republicans like Hagel, Smith, Collins, and Snowe explain bailing on their principles to back a partyline vote which has the consequence of giving cover to a policy they know to be bankrupt. So cognitive dissonance isn’t a problem for Hillary alone.
From the NYTimes:
Al-Maliki is currently flunking Bush’s “benchmarks.” Benchmarks. Who the hell comes up with these terms in any case?
Mikey @ 117
that one didn’t pass the smell test for me either ……
Helen asks if KSM was tortured.
Tony sez we don’t do torture.
Won’t talk about the subpoenas and sez that Fred Fielding is busy on the Hill.
We’ll give them all the information they need while keeping in mind Presidential prerogative.
righhht.
Sorry, but this sounds like the guy is confessing to everything. That’s what happens when you torture someone. So one guy was responsible for nearly everything, huh? I guess that means the Bush admin doesn’t have to spend any more time or money chasing terrorists– this guy is already in custody!! Hey! So even more money can be plowed into Iraq.
If in fact KSM did all that stuff, he must be superman. But it does conveniently let Bush off the hook, huh?
I think Rove has lost his velvet touch. Everything he does now, he overdoes– the purge, KSM, Libby– he’s just flailing away at every ball. Twice. It’s making everything unbelievable. Not that the MSM will notice.
Well, that post brought just one thing to mind:
Brazil….where hearts were entertaining June,
We stood beneath an amber moon
And softly murmured “someday soon.”
We kissed and clung together,
Then, tomorrow was another day
The morning found me miles away
With still a million things to say;
Now, when twilight dims the sky above
Recalling thrills of our love,
There is one thing I’m certain of
Return I will to old Brazil.
KSM placed the dust bunnies behind my armoire.
twolf1 @ 107
went in to vote, already closed
results
26% yes
74% no
Hugh @ 142:
Hagel is the person to watch. He’s the bellwether of this whole withdrawal conundrum. How do you separate and isolate anti-Al-Qaeda operations from the civil war? They’re both happening on the ground, so to speak. I mean, it’s not as if the myriad militias are wearing distinctive uniforms.
Someone may havementined this already, but how long has this dubious KSM “confession” been waiting for release? How many other half-truths and whole-lies do they have waiting to release, in the event of a further public awakening?
WhaTt’s NEXT? Any guesses?
Maybe they will arrest Tariq Aziz?
NorskeFlamethrower @ 141
;0)!!!
KSM coerced Matt Sanchez to be Touched by an Anal.
On the bright side, now they can start blaming KSM for everything and stop blaming the Clenis.
I’m confused. Does anyone here really think that any semblance of military presence should be completely removed from Iraq?
If so, do we explain to the world and the Iraqis that it wasn’t our fault, so fix it your own damn selves?
That doesn’t sound very liberal to me.
26% yes
74% no
26% = some of the people all of the time (Bush’s middle-class base)
Tlazolteotl @ 147
Yeah, when poor old Sam Lowry’s strapped in the torture chair but in his mind he’s “returning to old Brazil.” Creepiest of Terry Gilliam’s movies, & that’s saying a lot…
And of course we have the video of the “confession” and the names of the court officials. Oops, I forgot, all evidence of the confession has been redacted. Just trust us, OK…..
I AM Patriotic @
121
… and he also put the caramel in the Caramilk Bar and modified corn syrup in junk food, causing widespread obesity … damn terrorists !!!
The reason why Repubs will be in power for 20 of 28 years – 1980 to 2008 – is because they decide on the most likely leader and beat their drums in unison to support him.
People who say there is no difference between Hillary & the Repubs are feeding the Pubbies’ talking points – vote for them because they are even more ‘Hillary’ than Hillary. Bashing Hillary or Edwards or Obama because they are not perfect candidates, is playing into the Repubs’ hands and enabling those who hurt America most.
The only way a Democrat will be the next President is if we drum up their positive points continuously; to make voting for a Democrat the only choice for those who “love their country”.
Otherwise, there is a long line of ‘Bush duplicates’ waiting in the wings …
Biodun @ 143
“Benchmark” came about because Bush didn’t like either “timetable” or “milestone” which he thought were too time related.
The Maliki government missing benchmarks is nothing new. He has been characterized as a second tier leader from a second tier party in what I might add is a weak government under a weak constitution.
I want out of Iraq now. Just where does the U.S. obtain moral absolution from any of us for keeping a policing power in Iraq? Oil? Not one American GI in Iraq. That’s unequivocal.
OT–but related:
Salon and WashPo are now quibbling over who broke the Walter Reed story:
From Larisa Alexandrovna:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..43503.html
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Citizen Balrog:
Go back under the bridge and practice holdin’ yer breath…then give yerself a thrill and wiggle yer ears and tickle yer prostate.
We need Gore in ‘08, and beyond.
Marie Roget @ 157
Creepy or not, “Brazil” is one great movie. Dark irony, yes. Creepy? For me, not so much …….
Birdman @ 158
It truly shows the insanity of this administration that they would think we’d still believe any fucking thing that comes out of their mouths.
He was arrested a long time ago. Don’t think anyone’s heard from him since.
TRex @
20
Adaptable, that’s what you are TRex, adaptable. That’s why you are still here and all those other ’saurs are in museums.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 165
WORD!!!!
NorskeFlamethrower @ 164
Nice try Norske. Care to answer the question?
JEP @ 39
Olbermann did a great job on this.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16893899/
The video is partway down the page on the right.
“Benchmark” There’s also the subliminal, to my way of thinking, anyway. A benchmark is a point of known elevation thus to have achieved a benchmark means the situation has been elevated. Iraq’s not descending into chaos, it’s ascended. It’s improved. (IM very HO — the subliminal message, not the improvement.)
lost_nacf_gop @ 100
He killed Kenny! That bastard!
-S
I apologize…
Balrog @
155
Um, no, and I don’t think that is what many Democratic proposals state either. Most of the ones I’ve heard about either withdraw troops slowly or leave some of them there on some event horizon or both. There aren’t too many who are insisting that we leave “right this minute!”. That would be incredibly foolish and undermine our credibility even further.
However, we must acknowledge that if the Iraqi doesn’t get it’s shit together, an all out civil war is inevitable. (It’s just a preliminary civil war right now.) It could be that our presence is exaccerbating the ability of the government to get it’s shit together.
It is also the case that the stoopid war is draining our treasury and destroying our army. There are only so many times the same troops can be deployed before they all die and/or use up all of their equipment. At that point, we will be very vulnerable as a country. Dangerous place to be, The only solution to the inevitable national security problem is to a.) end the US presence in the war as soon as possible or b.) really committ to winning in Iraq, which would mean instituting the draft, throwing incalculable resources at the army and buckling down for a lot of blood on both sides.
That’s not liberal. That’s just reality.
KSM claimed he invented post-its.
O/T — Froomkin is spot on today. Raises some great questions about the Gonzalez scandal…
One thing I’d like to bring up is… For YEARS people called for Rumsfeld to step down, in fact, demanded it and they didn’t budge until right after the elections. What makes anyone think that all the calls for Abu Gonzalez to step down will have any effect?
Hugh @ 160
With the situation there the way it is, and was before he became fuckwad’s figurehead, Maliki couldn’t possibly make anything good happen in Iraq. He may be, in fact, a weak leader. There’s not a person in the world who could rescue Iraq. Certainly not as long as fuckwad is president.
Well call me foolish. I want out of Iraq now. And I want the Bush gang prevented from attacking Iran or starting any more wars based on lies.
fahrender @ 166-
Absolutely a great film. “Creepy” is a compliment from this horror film fan. Couple of quotes from “Brazil” that have an interesting ring to them right now:
Jack Lowry: I only know you got the wrong man.
Jack Lint: Information Transit got the wrong man. I got the *right* man. The wrong one was delivered to me as the right man, I accepted him on good faith as the right man. Was I wrong?
Guard: Don’t fight it son. Confess quickly! If you hold out too long you could jeopardize your credit rating.
Dr. Jaffe: Just me and my little knife! Snip snip – slice slice… can you believe it?
jigsaw @ 132
Third paragraph -
http://aidemocracy.typepad.com…..fact_.html
It appears the administration claims it was Zarqwi, even though the person in the video did not have a fake leg and supposedly Zarqawi had a fake leg
Same-sex marriage would no more require Catholics to perform such ceremonies than current marriage laws require Catholic priests to marry Jews in jewish ceremonies, Muslims in Islamic ceremonies, et. al.
So on this “issue” Edwards is close but no cigar.
angie @ 163
Thanks for that commentary from Larisa, angie.
She’s absolutely right; how can we believe any of this when somebody’s already been charged and prosecuted for the crime, when others have also claimed or admitted to this crime…
And the U.S. is know for torture, up to and including death, as if that wouldn’t produce claims of all kinds in order to escape the worst.
Balrog @ 171
Now, now, boys.
Don’t make me pull this thread over.
portia.vz @ 175
I’m completely on-board with getting the troops out.
I also feel that the US has a responsibility to rebuild what it has destroyed, as it has in the past. I believe that must involve the military, right?
Sorry to make folks uncomfortable, but my question is genuine.
Brazil is a documentary.
TRex @ 184
It was him!
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Citizen oklahoma kiddo and the Firepup Patriots:
There is a possibility we could get Big Al for 9 years if we get impeachment/resignation from Cheney then a resignation under threat of impeachment from the Chimp and then Nanci does the right thing and nominates Big Al as VP and abdicates.
In any case, the campaign that Big Al is runnin’ right now is brilliant…he gets ta lookin better’n better against all the announced pretenders without givin’ the corporatist advertisin’ media a clear target. He won’t announce until the end of this year…by that time he’ll have all the major Democratic funders in the bag and AIPAC will be irrelevant.
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T FEED THE TROLLS!!!
[Mod Note; let’s be very careful how we use the “T” word.]
here’s how we’ll know if the confession is legitimate by the way;
if he tells us how he contacted the vp to get him to his secure bunker and how he got norad to stand down while watching commercial airliners do you turns in the sky
if he can give us this information he probably is the mastermind
portia.vz @ 11
Why? The Bush Administration has been functioning that way for years…
Marie Roget @
180
Oops. That’d be Sam Lowry, Pryce’s character in Brazil. Must have Bauer on the brain today.
Balrog @ 187
Well, let’s keep it polite, okay? There’s a lot going on today that we’re trying to keep track of. No pie fights. Or I’ll put you all out in the back yard and turn the hose on ya.
mc @ 176
And I thought Romy & Michelle invented those.
j.cro @ 177
i think Gonzoles will go. Sooner rather than later. Why?
1. Rumsfeld was then. This is now.
2. There is already a Republican Senator demanding his head (Sununu).
3. Rumsfeld was an asshole but he was formidable (and you can pronounce it like zee French if you want to). Abu is just a Texas asskisser.
4. Fuckwad and Rover are running out of ammunition and the sheriff has the ranch house surrounded.
5. The great unwashed are not only pissed, they’re started sensing
their power.
I could go on but….. I won’t.
anyone have todays froomkin link?
THANKS!
Tom Toles knows who did it!
JEP @
87
Jerralyn wrote about this when it happened, 4 years ago. No hell has been paid to date, but I vote that interteste be charged to the bill.
Marie Roget @ 180
glad we’re on the same wave length, Marie. I just associate creepy with the pejorative.
Froomkin isHERE!
Balrog @ 155
We can’t fix it and our presence over the last 4 years has not prevented conditions there from getting worse.
A responsible withdrawal would take place over the course of 6 months to 1 year. It would be coordinated with the Iraqi government as well as the relevant militias to reduce the resulting power vacuums. A lot of chaos would still result but this would happen whether we choose to leave now or at any other point.
Training of Iraqi forces which was supposed to be one of Petraeus’s great successes never happened. Equiping them never happened either. So this is essentially a deadletter for me. If we couldn’t do it in 4 years under better conditions, we will not be able to do so under worse ones.
Border control of thousands of miles of Iraqi frontiers also never happened in the last 4 years with larger forces than those contemplated after a withdrawal. It too is a mirage.
Strikes against al Qaeda where they can be identified are possible but as Biodun said above these people do not exactly special uniforms so that they can be easily distinguished from groups. A more reasonable goal would be to target large formations (essentially Sunnis) not sanctioned by the central government. This would not end the civil war but might contain certain aspects of it. It is a mission that could largely be accomplished by air power.
Regionally, we could keep forces in Kuwait, Qatar, and elsewhere to limit and manage some events in Iraq and in the area generally.
This is fairly close to the original Murtha plan. It is far from perfect but it does offer a way out and some possibility of managing the aftermath of our withdrawal.
mc @ 176
I thought Romy and Michelle invented post-its.
BTW, this is a great post. I was totally skeptical about the timing of this story. Hopefully the MSM isn’t mesmerized for too long by the shiny object.
Rayne @ 183
So what happens to KSM now? Death penalty?
Balrog says:
I also feel that the US has a responsibility to rebuild what it has destroyed, as it has in the past. I believe that must involve the military, right?
Hell no, IMHO. We have a lot of responsibilities but we should not have any more opportunities to screw around with Iraqi lives. We owe them the truth, we owe them justice, we owe them $$$$$$$$$$$$ and reparations (not that anything could ever suffice). Our government needs to investigate, expose and admit to the lies that led up to this ongoing crime; punish the perpetrators; throw the enablers out of office; restore our Constitution; and beg the Iraqis and the International Community for forgiveness.
LooseHead Thoughts is upstairs.
TRex @ 24
Am I the only one who thought Michael and Lindsay were to close?
KSM confessed that he is was missing man with timothy mcvey in Oklahoma City. (repeat from TP but i like it)
Strategerie @ 174: ROFLMAO!!!
BTW my sentence above should read:
Strikes against al Qaeda where they can be identified are possible but as Biodun said above these people do not exactly wear special uniforms so that they can be easily distinguished from other groups.
Franco @ 195
This is the printer friendly version: http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..53_pf.html
This is the web version:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00879.html
Hugh @ 199
Agreed. So in your mind, how does this tie in with HRC’s comments?
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Citizen Trex:
I’m gunna respond to Balrog now, with much more effort and (dare I say) rationality than he deserves…
We must get our asses and our kids out of Iraq right now, not slowly but quickly and with additional force if necessary. If we don’t do it in the next few months and begin the pullback to Baghdad right now, we won’t be able ta get ‘em out without shootin’ our way in to extract ‘em.
As for the damage we have done and the chaos we have caused, we have a moral obligation to leave the solution to the Iraqis and their neighbors and fall on our knees in front of the UN, the World Court and the whole planet.
We will owe reparations far in excess of those imposed on Germany by the Treaty of Versailles.
Now get outta here with that fascist bullshit about how we hafta stay in Iraq and destroy the country in order ta save it.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION AND DON’T WASTE ANY TIME ARGUIN’ WITH FASCISTS!!
Dru @ 202
Yes. Sounds good to me.
Fitz is NOT God @ 102
As a Federal timekeeper I can answer this one:
His resignation probably takes effect at the end of the current pay period (3/17/2007). Makes the record keeping a little easier, and Payroll won’t have to calculate a partial check.
Big ditto Dru @ 202 and Norske @ 209.
I would dearly love to see a war crimes tribunal– we owe it to the world.
So Hillary has a belief. I’m shocked, I though she only had policies.
Triangulation number 7 billion and 4, re Pace Comments
Brisingamen @ 212
That explanation flies in the face of abu torture’s statement
he said outright he’s getting paid becuase his hasn’t found another job yet…that’s not verbatum but he actually said that, I’ll get the quote verbatum
What about the Lindbergh baby? Maybe Bruno Hauptmann was framed! Did you all just gloss over that? Plus, I heard that Mohammed actually SIRED the Lindbergh baby. So he cuckolded one of America’s greatest heroes, before Lindbergh supported the Nazis! Okay, that’s off-topic, but we can’t lose sight of this BushCo triumph: we have gotten a guy to admit to EVERYTHING!!
I think he also stole a Mars bar which went missing from Kresge’s on Cedar Road in an undisclosed east-side Cleveland suburb sometime in the early 60s. Which I didn’t actually eat, as it turned out, and had to return, with the money and an apology to the store manager. That was not fair at all.
JEP @ 94 Thanks “G”, I found it, and it will be easy for KO to update, this string of black pearls just keeps getting longer
Don’t you mean this thing of Black’s, Perle?
Balrog @ 209
Well the Hillary plan which is also the Biden or Levin or Reid or DINO plan is to leave about 50,000 troops in Iraq to accomplish the 3 task I mentioned: training, border control, and anti-al Qaeda operations. It isn’t feasible because these missions can’t be extricated and isolated from the civil war.
In short, withdrawal is possible and even necessary. Hillary’s comments are bogus both because she really isn’t supporting withdrawal and the missions envisioned for remaining US forces in Iraq have already been tried with larger forces and failed.
Thanks Hugh.
I do want the troops out quickly, my nephew is there on his third tour of duty, with only 2 weeks ‘vacation’ in between, or about the same that Bush gets between Mondays.
Our allies – Jordan, Saudi, etc. say American troops will be needed over the next few years to transition Iraq away from a rogue state (which we helped to create).
I think Hillary & Bill know enough about Mideast matters to realize this as well. Whoever the next President is (Please Al, run) Bill should definitely be given the task of spearheading Mideast policy – fixing Iraq, solving the Israel-Palestinian conflict. And if that means being sent by his wife, I won’t have a problem with that.
So, we’re ending the week with Plame’s testimony, huh? Will Bush trump that by accepting Abu’s resignation at the start of Plame testimony? Will Oklahoma’s JC Watts & Bill Bennett be on CNN & FauxNews lamenting Abu’s passing as another ‘grave’ mistake (like the ‘07 elections)?
More importantly, will FDL be blogging the Plame hearing?
perris @ 215
here’s his actual quote;
this is not “book keeping”, this is “take your time, find a job, get back to us when you have other employment”
Omar Saeed Sheikh
http://cooperativeresearch.org…..aeedSheikh
Hey, guys. If any of you are interested, I am going to be interviewing a Celtic band at 4:00pm DST:
http://wuga.org
Go with a non-Mozilla browser (I know, I know) to ‘Listen Online’.
It ain’t politics, but it’s a living.
O/T…
What happens if the people subpoenaed to testify in the attorney purge ignore them? What happens then?
j.cro @ 224
Contempt of Congress….
tbsa @ 225
How often does anyone really get held for that and then actually sentenced to their time in prison and the fine?
So if this guy is responsible for everything, does that mean the War On Terror is finally over?
Dru @ 203
I have to agree, we do owe them something for breaking their country and killing hundreds of thousands of them. But clearly we don’t have the skills or powers to fix it, even if we knew how. Which I think is impossible. After the first Gulf War the Iraqi’s got themselves back to normal wrt water, power, sewage etc. in 6 months.
How would you feel if foreigners came and broke your country, then said, “Hey, we’re sorry, we’ll stay and fix it?” Me, I would want them to get out *out* *OUT* as soon as possible. And the Hummers they rode in on.
I think all we can do now is
1.) get some honest American patriots into the White House and a majority in Congress. What is being done to Iraq in un- and anti-American. It is a sysmptom of our rot, we *need* to fix the rot. Pronto.
2.) Get our people out of Iraq, lock stack and MegaEmbassy. Forswear all dreams of empire and close down our 737 military bases outside the US, too.
3.) Humbly and sincerely offer refugee status to any Iraqi who needs it since we broke a fragile balance of power there. There will be millions of refugees, they are our responsibility.
4.) We should be prepared to apologize to Iraq and the whole world for decades to come. I have German friends who are apologizing for their grandparents, we need to apologize for ourselves. We should become a nation of penitents, doing only good in the world. We have a whole lot of bad karma to work off.
Am I late? Any person with an ounce of sense would see that this is GW having somebody else say “9/11, 9/11, 9/11″ instead of him saying it ad-nauseum. And leaving Iraq will mean handing it over to Al Qaeda (they love that place!).
Brisingamen @ 212
My, that’s a charming necklace you have there.
Fitz is NOT God @ 102
Brisingamen @ 212
perris @ 215
And I’ll weigh in here too. I have done *tons* of payroll in the private sector. And the very last thing you do is have someone who has been fired hang around. You pay them up to the end of the notice period or whatever you like, but you *revoke their security clearance* and escort them to the door with the stuff from their desk in a bag. And they don’t come back no more, no more, no more.
HotFlash, glad you like the jewelry ;-D
Sampson is probably under the SES schedule for payment. I’m guessing that he’ll get some sort of severance package (or maybe just the time to find another job*).
There is a bunch of paperwork that has to be filled out for a separation even if it is a voluntary one. And there are a bunch of things he’ll have to surrender, like his work ID, and building key card, Federal credit card, yadda yadda…
*I’m betting he’ll have another job before the end of the month.
I hear KSM also helped John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald. He never had time for water boarding until his trip to the tropics.
ThatSinger @
85
That was probably in the redacted parts.
I also wonder, if he was behind 9/11 A-Z, then did he wire-up building 7, so it’s owner could blow it later. why wouldn’t KSM have gone ahead and have that done by the 9/11 Atta crew?
KSM seems to have (had) friends in strange places.
Doesn’t it make you wonder a bit more about the significance of discovering and putting together more solid evidence of just what happened on 9/11?
As so many are pointing out, if KSM did all those things, then it means Saddam wasn’t a threat and we have no reason to be in Iraq. War’s over! Let’s all welcome the troops home.
It makes absolutely no sense and thus fits in perfectly with this absolutely surreal Bush era.
I heard that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has also confessed to the Great Train Robbery, The Thomas Crown affair and the Italian Job, but these were all redacted from his statement…
Yet another example of an overeager administration intent on burying the (most recent) illegal activities of the justice department, hard at work.
Next they’ll probably have him admit he was the guy in the pickup with the engine running outside my bedroom window the other night…can’t wait to get that solved too !!!!!!!!!
Hmmm, I wonder if Sheikh Mohammed was behind the assassination attempt made against George H. W. Bush?
I know, I know, the late Saddam Hussein was reported to have been behind the assassination attempt, but with the “revelation” that Sheikh Mohammed had assassinations as a hobby and with no concrete proof ever being presented (at least none that I’m aware of) that Saddam Hussein was irrefutably linked to the assassination attempt of George H. W. Bush, then Sheikh Mohammed must have been responsible.
Maybe Saddam Hussein got a bum rap. Hell, the next thing someone will be claiming about the late Saddam Hussein is that he had massive amounts of WMD stockpiled and was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Ooops, someone’s already done that, as well as laying the assassination attempt against George H. W. Bush at his door…as a prelude for starting a war in Iraq.
Don’t think you’re being cynical at all, given this, fresh off the wire:
The transcript of Mohammed’s hearing on Saturday is censored at a key point in an exchange about his Mohammed’s claim that he had been tortured in U.S. custody.
The tribunal president asked Mohammed whether any of the statements Mohammed had made were “because of the treatment.” Mohammed’s answer is blanked out redacted in midsentence. It reads: “CIA people. Yes. At the beginning when they transferred me ”
“We’re disturbed by the fact that the military has redacted the transcript at that precise moment,” Sifton said. “The alleged torture of these suspects is one of the main problems that has marred the legal process that has gone on with them.”
Don’t think you’re being cynical at all, given this, fresh off the wire:
The transcript of Mohammed’s hearing on Saturday is censored at a key point in an exchange about his Mohammed’s claim that he had been tortured in U.S. custody.
The tribunal president asked Mohammed whether any of the statements Mohammed had made were “because of the treatment.” Mohammed’s answer is blanked out redacted in midsentence.
It reads: “CIA people. Yes. At the beginning when they transferred me ”
“We’re disturbed by the fact that the military has redacted the transcript at that precise moment,” Sifton said. “The alleged torture of these suspects is one of the main problems that has marred the legal process that has gone on with them.”
And that “from A to Z” comment by Mohammed: It just sounds contrived. Wonder if anyone in the MSM will bother getting an Arabic translator’s take on this “testimony”?
He also boasted of being Pete Rose’s bookie.
He killed MLK and the Kennedys as well.