
There are many quaint and vivid expressions that have sprung out of the Free Media movement. There's blog-whoring, trolling, doing things "for the lulz", lurking and de-lurking, speaking through a "sock-puppet", and then there's the term we're going to study tonight, "astroturfing", which is defined by Wikipedia thusly:
Astroturfing is a term for formal public relations campaigns in politics and advertising that seek to create the impression of being spontaneous, grassroots behavior. Hence the reference to AstroTurf (artificial grass) is a metaphor to indicate fake grassroots support.
The goal of such a campaign is to disguise the agenda of a client as an independent public reaction to some political entity—a politician, political group, product, service or event. Astroturfers attempt to orchestrate the actions of apparently diverse and geographically distributed individuals, by both overt ("outreach," "awareness," etc.) and covert (disinformation) means. Astroturfing may be undertaken by anything from an individual pushing their own personal agenda through to highly organised professional groups with financial backing from large corporations.
Or it may be undertaken by the Freshman Congresswoman from Minnesota's District 6. TBogg has the dirt.
Delightfully crazy Michele Bachmann's soon-to-be-unemployed press secretary sends out an email:
Hi -
I got your name as someone who might be willing to send a letter to the editor on behalf of Michele Bachmann. If that is incorrect, please let me know and I won ‘t contact you again.
As you may have seen, Michele has been the focus of lots of media lately and most of it not friendly. We want to make sure that the media and others reading the paper get a balanced view of Michele Bachmann. Therefore, if you could take just a moment of your time to write 50 -100 words about why your support Michele that would be fantastic and I know how much she would appreciate seeing that in the paper. Below are a couple of suggestions and links to different editors. If you have any questions for me, either on information or looking for a paper’s contact info please let me know.
This is either a pathetic cry for attention or it's Bachmann's press secretary frantically looking for a sharp object to impale her career on. Because in this instance, astroturfing isn't just acting in bad faith, it's a federal crime.
An email sent by U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., may violate federal law and House Rules.
The email from Bachmann's press secretary, Heidi Frederickson, was published on the weblog Dump Michele Bachmann. It had been sent from Frederickson's government account.
The email told constituents that "Michele has been the focus of lots of media lately and most of it not friendly." The letter went on to ask constituents to "take just a moment of your time to write 50–100 words about why your support Michele," adding that the congresswoman "would appreciate seeing that in the paper."
Ooops!
The federal law dealing with franking privileges also suggests that Frederickson's email may have run afoul of the law. Section 3210(a)(5)(C) of the U.S. Code bars the use of congressional resources for any communication that "specifically solicits political support for the sender or any other person or any political party, or a vote or financial assistance for any candidate for any public office."
Oh, my!
But let's have a look at what Ms. Bachmann's press secretary was urging us to write our letters to the editor about, shall we? Mr. Bogg?
Suggestions:
1) Talk about Michele as a mother (5 biological, 23 foster kids) and wife. Her devotion to her family and making Minnesota a better place.
Dude. 23 foster children? Is she running a sweat-shop for Old Navy?!
2) Her strong fiscal conservative roots. She is a sponsor of the Line-item veto and the balanced budget amendment.
3) Her first piece of legislation is the Health Care Freedom of Choice Bill that would make all medical expenses and insurance premiums tax deductible for individuals – why haven’t the press reported on that.
Um, maybe because Ms. Bachmann is providing such an interesting side-show to the Bush administration's free-fall. Take for instance that weird Vulcan Nerve Pinch she was doing to Chimpy after the State of the Union. It was like she was some kind of parasitic alien life form trying to drain the Toddler in Chief's chi out through his shoulder. Child, she latched onto him like Ann Coulter latching on to a crack pipe and looked to all comers like she'd have been perfectly happy to ride on his shoulder like a particularly gaudy parrot for the rest of the night.
Michele, honey. Guys don't like girls who are too forward, let alone girls who embody the words "needy", "clingy", and "pathetic".
Still, with Katherine Harris and her Bust by MZM™ banished from the halls of Congress, the Republicans have an opening for the position of Hyper-Embarrassing Capitol Hill Train-Wreck, and I hear that Jean Schmidt has been having a little trouble keeping up, lately. In fact, Miss "Cowards Cut and Run" had a particularly bad day today:
A bad day for Jean Schmidt.
Today on the Hill, Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-OH) was seen “making a spectacle of herself when the unlucky lawmaker slipped and fell in what we’re told was vomit, in a bathroom in Cannon … ‘She made THE biggest scene in the hallway,’ says a staffer who escaped the, um, regurgitation. ‘It’s literally all down her back.’”
Awwwww. That's just awful! Did you hear that, Christy? One of your personal betes noires was squawking like a wet hen in the Capitol halls today because she fell down in a pool of sick and got it all over her red, white, and blue pant suit. Isn't that terrible? I feel so bad about it that I keep bursting into spontaneous fits of uncontrollable giggling.
Sounds like someone using the GOP's toilets today had a bit of a nervous stomach. Well, it is the Ides of March and yon Leahy hath a lean and hungry look. With Gonzo, Rove, and a cast of thousands looking poised to go feet-first into the big Congressional Hearing wood-chipper, I'm surprised they can eat anything at all.
Pity.
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- Mike Stark Asks Michele Bachmann About Birthers
- Michele Bachmann Compares Progressive Taxation to Slavery and Says Lots of Other Crazy Shit
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zed?
Yay, zed
Yay, TRex!!
trex!
Waves at the Big Guy!
Trex!
and congrats LoudonLib!
(and thinking of Jane today…)
*waves at AZ Matt*
Evening, gang.
Nobody’s slipped and fallen and gotten covered with vomit, today, have they?
Ha, TRex, I knew you’d catch the Schmidt story!
Dover Bitch @
7
I just hope I don’t catch whatever the person had who provided the ammunition.
Wow, I never thought I’d see Mean Jean Schmidt do nuance.
Thanks for the props to MinMon! These guys are doing on a local level what FDL’s doing nationally: Looking to break the news, not just comment on it.
Bush free fall? Dang, that makes me want to go find that Flash animation again!
TRex @ 8
Talk about schadenfreude.
Say, I just wanted to post something I thought about after your thread the other day WRT: Jon Stewart. I think there’s something that he deserves credit for in addition to ridding the world of Crossfire.
Stewart defended himself well when Tucker criticized his interviews by pointing that his show followed a puppet show on Comedy Central. But I think that there was, in fact, a perceptible change in the Daily Show after that. Stewart didn’t have to try to be CNN, but ever since that day I think the show has actually done an even better job of not just making fun of the lunacy of American Politics, but actually cutting through the bullshit. It was a great show before he torpedoed Crossfire, but it occurred to me that Stewart realized on that day that maybe it really is up to TDS to get the facts out there, since the news channels don’t seem to be willing to do it.
EvilDrPuma @ 9
I cannot wait for Jeff Danziger to illustrate this.
TRex @
6
Tony Snow looked like he almost wanted to vomit at his presser today. Does that count?
I love it! Not in office an entire three months and Michele Bachmann has reason to be reviewed by the Ethics Committee.
Oh, and remember her pawing all over Bush at the SOTU?
She’s off to a rip roaring start.
Sorry to be pedantic, but it’s one el and two ens. Michele Bachmann. Got her first name right, but not the last.
Even grosser than Mean Jean in a pile of puke in that link over at Think Prog was her assertion that men thought she was a hottie.
If that’s not enough to make you toss your cookies, I don’t know what is.
Hey TRex, did you meet Fred Schneider yet?
Nope, no vomit here but I bet there is alot of Pepto being consumed over at the Justice Department tonight as they franically search for the the documents Conyers wanted to see yesterday. He was madder than rabid dog. I hope the DOJ types are up on thier shots.
Come to think of it, maybe somebody had heard her say that, and that’s why the puke was there…
I just hope I don’t catch whatever the person had who provided the ammunition.
Hey, TRex. I think it was an automatice reaction upon seeing Mean Jean live and in person without being prepared. I know that would be a tummy turner for sure.
And “zed” means the letter Z, not the number zero. Which I know has been mentioned before. Okay, done being a scold.
Methinks you were inspired by that pretty new pen…”sweat-shop for Old Navy”…
* snerk! *
Oh TRex- as I have said before, I just don’t know how you do it. Another great post! I love the way you use (and not misuse) language. You find such great images. When did you first realize that you are a word genius?
edit p.s. such images in words
EvilDrPuma @ 9
707070707!!!!
Snarkalicious!
I think it’s a crying shame that corrupt GOP Congresswomen have to dredge the bottom of the barrel for press secretaries these days. “50–100 words about why your support Michele…?” Jeebus, if you’re going to get your boss busted on franking privilege, can’t you at least use correct grammar?
Delicious post, as always TRex!
It never ceases to amaze me how many political operatives think it’s just fine & dandy to
try and bamboozle the public with PR that appears to be grassroots support. I have a feeling “astroturfing” is only going to explode as blogs become more popular with the average public. Sniffing out the paid staffers pulling fast ones on us will be a time-consuming effort as the 2008 elections approach.
I read in one of this morning’s posts that Christy’s a little under the weather. I’ll bet the news about Mean Jean Schmidt will give her a great chuckle!
Again, here’s hoping Jane is feeling okay tonight.
EvilDrPuma @ 26
I’m surprised there wasn’t a “teh” somewhere in that letter.
Nervous tummies? Naw, Bush is always sleeps soundly, you know. His conscience is always so, so clear, what with God looking in all the time…
puppethead @
16
Got it! Thanks!
FYI, from Buckeye State Blog:
Click for more. The “Ted” in question was our current governor, Ted Strickland.
“Et tu, Dubya?”
There really isn’t much more to say about Ms. Bachmann. I could apologize, again, for the people from the sixth district of my state, but they probably wouldn’t have changed their minds at this point anyway. And, to be perfectly frank, the local Democratic party did not mount a good democratic opposition, and it should have been easy. The woman is incontrovertibly shitbat crazy.
Having gone to school in the region, though, I’m afraid she does speak for part of the constituency; unfortunately, it was a voting part.
EvilDrPuma @
9
‘Lumpy Gravy’ moment.
What is “for the lulz”?
Dover Bitch @
18
No, I haven’t spoken to any of the B’s face to face since a party in 1992. Oh, and it’s Keith I have a crush on, not Fred.
Lead singers should never, ever date.
Dinner’s tomorrow night! I get one meal to impress the guy, so wish me luck!
EvilDrPuma @ 26
She apparently hasn’t a clue about punctuation, either. I spotted at least three errors of that type in the major paragraph alone.
Great post, TRex, but I’ve got one little quibble.
23 foster kids is by no means unusual. In some cases, foster care is a short-term arrangement, until a child can be placed with another family member (like a grandparent). In other cases, the state/county agency charged with children and family services often has at least a couple of “emergency” foster care families. These are folks they call in the middle of the night (if need be) to take in a kid immediately, and then the child might be moved into a more long-term arrangement within a couple of days. Either way, a foster parent could easily work up to 23 kids in a couple of years without building triple-decker bunk beds in the garage.
I have *lots* of respect for foster parents — it’s a helluva job, to step into a kid’s life under very stressful circumstances.
* * *
We now return you to your regularly scheduled snark.
* * *
CHOMP! CHOMP!! CHOMP!!!
I’d never wish that on anybody. Not even Jean.
Well, okay. Maybe Jean. But only if she’s hugging Victoria, Ann, Kate, and Katherine at the time — and they all land in it together.
What is the difference betwixt Bachmann and Foley?
One did a minor solicitation and one solicited minors and did…
Rob Zuber @ 36
“For the laughs.” A variation of “for the LOL’s”.
Peterr @ 38
All true, but not necessarily of Michelle Bachmann….
Think of all the fragile psyches in chaotic circumstances she’s had the opportunity to permanently damage….
Tomorrow’s witness list in the House investigation on Valerie Plame’s CIA identity being exposed includes Victoria Toensing… and a few other interesting people. See this diary by SusanHu at Daily Kos.
Anybody have an inkling why Toensing is being called to testify? (Someone at dKos said they believe she was called to testify by Republicans – sort of their token representative to pedal their bs. I’m wondering how she can provide any relevant information on the case).
Have to agree with Peterr about the foster kids thing. A friend of mine was one of those emergency resources. Sometimes, he and his wife would get a family of four or five kids at once, a phone call’s notice, and have to get them settled as best they could within a few hours.
LJ/Aquaria @ 45
You guys are hell-bent on ruining the best line in the whole piece, aren’t you?
I’ll concede that foster care is laudable, but only if you concede that Michele Bachmann is a git anyway.
cackling like Mean Jean herself – oh please you guys, don’t tell my kids I’m laughing my ass off about some old lady slipping in puke !
cbl @ 48
I’m telling everyone!!
Sorry…
I pity the kids who landed at Prehensile Michelle’s house. Does that help?
TRex @ 46
Happens to the best of us, O Great One!
LJ/Aquaria @ 49
That’s better.
Ain’t this just so fun? Now they’re slipping in each other’s puke.
Maybe puke wrestling will replace mud wrestling in D.C.
Terry Olson @ 52
Kinda makes ya wish for a stomach virus to sweep the White House, doesn’t it?
Well, everyone in my house has laughed themselves into stomach aches!
Jean & her Technicolor Yawn!
Dover Bitch @ 12
Too bad we’ll never see Stewart eat Rahm-men noodles.
Friend of FDL, Steve Cohen isn’t afraid of facts. Once we reclaim America from the Constitution-haters (oh hell, let’s just say Republicans), our next ongoing challenge will be to expose “Blue Dog” Democrats for what they really are – Republicans.
Hey, now they’re called re-pukes for a reason.
Or is it reaks puke.
montag @ 55
There are little pockets of norovirus around the DC area this week. Maybe it’s only a matter of time ;-)
TRex @ 37
If you see Jean in the restaurant, you might want to find somewhere else to eat. Wouldn’t want you or Keith to slip and fall on something.
TRex @ 36
Ah my mistake. Good luck!
“Hero Worship” is probably my favorite B-52’s song (of so many good ones).
TRex: I hope you’re preparing this for your dinner guest.
bonkers @ 56
Yeah, “baby steps.”
You know, last October when Michele Bachmann received an endorsement from the pulpit of the Living Word Christian Center, one would think she might have known better since she is after all a Tax Attorney. CREW filed a complaint with IRS against the church for violating their tax exempt status.
I guess being an attorney hasn’t served her any better in this case, or maybe it has, since she got her press secretary to do the dirty work. I’m amazed that people are willing to break the law on her behalf. She must be studying Rove’s playbook.
Dover Bitch @ 60
“Love Shack:” it’s got a good beat and you can remove small clothes to it.
TRex @ 37
Awesome TRex,
and just think, he’s telling his friends tonight he’s got a date with TRex from Firedoglake!
TRex!
That barf story is a story of karma.
All over her back…
that’s awesome.
Just like a Republican, slip and fall back in it, get up screaming at others. Typical.
I finally figured out what was going on in Death Grip Michele’s mind when she latched onto Bush at the SOTU….
Remember the dance contest in Saturday Night Fever, when Karen Lynne Gorney grabs onto John Travolta’s shoulder at the end and follows along like a dutiful little slave girl?
Death Grip thought Bush was Tony Manero!
How’s that for an inducement to blow chunks?
brendancalling @ 67
Oh Dog, let there be art…
brendancalling @ 66
What goes around, comes around…and then ends up a greasy little gobbets of bile, dribbling down your backside. Dude, that’s sooooo cosmic!
Quiche Lorraine is my favorite B-52’s song. And Strobe Light is also one of my faves.
Don’t get too excited. It’s one of those, “Let’s all go out to eat and you can meet him there!” kinds of things. I’ve been warned that he’s really, really picky, but if he’s not into me, at least I’ll get to hang out with one of my favorite bands.
I mean, how cool is that?
“Legal Tender” is my favorite B’s song.
Three important things:
1. Best wishes to Jane
2. Hoping Christie is well again
3. Best wishes to TRex on his hot one tomorrow night
Surely with todays modern technology the FBI can now dust for vomit. I mean don’t they have to technologically dial this investigation up to 11?
If they don’t DNA test it we’ll never know if it was terrorist vomit!
Call Robert Mueller and tell him I sent you.
Your either with us or your with the tomato skins terrorist.
Terry Olson @ 74
Seconded.
TRex @ 73
Waaay cool.
I’m jealous.
I once saw them in concert, loved it, loved them!!
and I love Legal Tender
down in the basement…
They did the best videos ever, IMHO
Terry Olson @ 73
I second the first two, of course. And for the third, I’m thinking a forty foot therapod, all dolled up with a beehive doo, is gonna get the ball rolling.
TRex- you seemed so shy when I met you in CT. Not exactly like your online persona. You need somehow to work into the conversation where your genius words can be read.
johnSwifty @ 77
Silly man. TRexes don’t have any hair!
Bachmann really has a thing for shrubbery, doesn’t she?
(be sure to scroll down for the pictures)
Valley Girl @ 78
My twin will be there. He’s the best PR man I could possibly ask for.
this is a little out of my league – isn’t there something kinky about TBogging?
TRex – This guy better be worthy of your attention…) Do you have an emergency escape plan? Someone to call you at a specific time with an excuse if needed?
TRex @ 78
Those were their own hair!!!!????? I’m only more impressed.
C&L has Colbert up — Colbert’s Wrd on Gonzo’s Purge
TRex @ 81
Oh, good. Go, PatrickRex.
OMG
Astroturfing…
Is that what that blog “From the Desk of Patrick J. Fitzgerald” was all about?
What exactly was the story about the person behind the persona any way?
Details, anybody?
Punaise,
congratulations on your Banana Slug.
It’s a stunning campus.
(I was too busy trying to catch the wave of Brendan’s thread and watch two TV channels to say something earlier.)
Ah, Brotherly back up. cool. I sooo want all of paTRex’s itunes gospel library.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 83
I have never had a problem extracting myself from unpleasant date situations. Life is too short to suffer fools gladly.
I have met Keith before and he was very, very nice. A bit shy, but clearly very smart.
The only problem is that he is a Scorpio and I am a double Gemini. This is normally a recipe for romantic chaos, hurt feelings, and lasting resentments.
I will proceed with caution.
Boy, Trex, one thing I can say for you. You really know how to make me laugh! Great post!
Heh.
I’m still giggling thinking about Mean Jean with puke all up her dress.
Maybe it was Ann Coulter, stopping off at the Capitol loo to purge the lobster thermidore from lunch.
TRex, if spiderpaws was around… and isn’t there some sort of retrograde thingie going on where stuff is bass ackwards?
Suzanne @ 93
She said that tomorrow is going to be an extraordinary day on all fronts. “Anything can happen” I believe was what she said about the eclipses and stuff we’re expecting tomorrow.
TRex- About this horoscope thing- my BFF from college days, AND my totally selfish* scientific colleague from 10 yrs. in Cambridge have the same b’days. (Geminis). Astrology is not destiny. At least from this one experience of mine.
edit: *and loathed
BTW, before I forget, please educate me. What, pray tell, is “doing things ‘for the lulz’”? I never heard of that. Sorry.
So, whatcha gonna wear on an “anything can happen” event and what pen are you going to take to write your phone number with?
Congressman Dana Rohrbacher becomes the third Republican to say Alberto should go:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…..becomes-3/
Watching C&L videos of Schumer and eating peanuts! Tomorrow is popcorn day! Jane and Christy better be watching as this has been a long time coming!!!
TRex @ 40
Suzanne @ 97
See, Suz… you are living up to my call- practical- which, as I elaborated on in an earlier thread, means a lot more than that word conveys. xxoo
Bachmann, Turn-her, Overdone.
“Hey you”, can’t we “let it ride” regarding her press secretary…she was just takin care of business.
Valley Girl @ 95
I don’t know, I’m kinda worried. TRex piqued my interest so I went to see my own destiny in this regard and was rewarded with:
Suzanne @ 97
Actually, TRex is probably more concerned with what kind of pen Keith will use to give out his number.
You can tell a lot about someone by the kind of pen they use. Or so I’ve heard.
Oops. Never mind. I finally read down far enough on the comments to find out what “for the lulz” means.
Suzanne @ 97
Those will be eleventh hour decisions.
Heading home, kids.
See you in a bit.
Thanks, VG *blushing*
Valley Girl @ 95
Have to agree with this one. Everything the books say don’t apply to me, and, by any logical reckoning, I should be a textbook case of what my “sign” is supposed to be
Believed in the stuff for years, but it just doesn’t hold up for me anymore.
You’ll hit it off or you won’t, TRex, so don’t sweat it. Be yourself. If he’s worthy of you, that’s all you’ll ever need to be.
johnSwifty @ 103
Still know enough about the stuff to know this means you’re an Aquarian.
Yakkety, yak, on her back.
-GSD
Off topic, but I’m watching Dan Rather on Jay Leno and he’s coming across as naive. Firm in his opinions, but the conclusions he draws are really not much better than the rest of corporate media. Or maybe more like Tom “my moustache is flat” Friedman. Wow.
How soon before he is Alberto Gone-zales?
-GSD
puppethead @ 112
A severe case of Broderitis.
-GSD
GSD @ 110
What time is Valerie Plame scheduled to testify?
Suzanne @ 107
Thank goodness you are blushing. I a-feared that you (or others) might not know that this was big kudos.
Is this the “Bachmann turn her over drive” – for Winnipegers everywhere.
Elliott @ 88
thanks. celebrating by flossing.
hungrycoyote @ 64
Not ONLY is The Living Word Church tax status being protested, this Pastor Mac Hammond made a PERSONAL endorsement saying he was going to VOTE for Michele Bachmann also from the pulpti and he didn’t even live in her district!!! Amen! Here’s a video of her “She’s Hot for God” at the same church. You have to see it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm16dBXn5u0
-How soon before he is Alberto Gone-zales?
-GSD
GONE-zoles- heh! Clever. He’s so gone.
alberTOGOnzales’ next job
Republican/Ailes/Coulter/Beck Spin/Troll Memes:
Obama-Terrorist.
Edwards-Faggot.
Clinton-Bitch.
How soon before they set their sites on Richardson?
-GSD
GSD @ 121
Probably still looking for a hook. They’ll find one. My guess is that they’ll go with some variant of Kim Jong Il-lover.
punaise @ 120
You guys belong on the NPR word game show on Sundays!
Josh props
Suzanne @
115
Maybe I can help: see
http://www.oversight.house.gov/
(Committee on Oversite and Government Reform)
It shows Valerie first on the “menu” I believe and the time 10 am EST….
GSD @ 120
If Richardson gets any momentum, they’ll bust out this story.
My, my @ 126
Hope Waxman has this on his iPod on his way to work tomorrow…Bachmann, Turner, OverSIGHT!
Michele Bachmann on Global Warming, over 50,000 hits
(she doesn’t think it has been established yet as the issure of the day, audience laughter).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wX1UnAtynU
Post up RIGHT NOW on this at
http://dumpbachmann.blogspot.com
TRex @
73
I’m hoping he’ll twinkle his eyes at you…
My, my @ 88
Dude. That was someone doing an “homage” like Harriet Mier’s Blog.
punaise @
121
Mmmm. #11 on wheat, no tomatoes!
Valley Girl @ 96
Were they born in the same year, and at the same longtitude? I’m told it makes a difference.
Suzanne @ 115
10:00 am eastern :)
I continue to be perplexed about the whole Gonzo uproar. If this is what it takes to bring him down, so be it. But I’m still scratching my head over it. Why this particular scandal, of all things? Why are people totally okay with the government illegally listening in on their phone calls, but they’re not okay with the government firing a bunch of people they’ve never heard of? (Yes, I understand that it was totally sleazy, and I understand that they got caught lying to Congress about it, but from a scandal perspective, the public should get more upset when the government lies to the public than when the government lies to Congress.)
Michele Bachmann calls Terry Schiavo “healthy”, more audience laughter.
Once you get started on these Avidor videos of Michele Bachmann, they are addicting. How DID she ever get elected?
Was it because Rove, Hastert, Cheney and Bush ALL campaigned for her? That would normally seal your fate?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f13Dj2HaRWg
Did someone say Vulcan Nerve Pinch?
Hi Everybody!
Before I was really into blogging I spotted an astroturf campaign in a midwest newspaper. I recognized the talking points and they all just seemed too perfect. So I checked up on the names to see if they maybe had a history of these kind of comments. Well it turned out they didn’t even live in the city let alone this mid-western state!
What was the topic? Social Security reform.
What state did these astroturfers live in?
Florida.
I came this close [holds fingers apart by this much] to calling them up and getting them to admit that they didn’t live in the midwestern state and that someone (like Michele Bachmann) put them up to it.
But I figured that even if I proved it, nobody would care that the Republican party had organized a astroturf campaign on Social Security.
Jacqrat @ 132
No tomatoes? You trying to keep KKKarl’s kid outta work?
Bil, thanks for the links to the Bachmann YouTubes. Hilarious!
A tsunami of stupidity.
Larry Johnson skewers a few pro-Bush business rags for being so fucking stupid they would drown in the rain.
-GSD
so I gotta a question… after Leahy put the Rove supeona on hold, who then released the next big batch of incriminatin’ emails?
where’s this coming from?
Frank Probst – Because Gov’t doesn’t have to dig to deep here. Ask how we got into the Iraq war and the whole house of cards has to fall, on both sides.
jmho
Frank, I think it was a combination of many things but Walter Reed horrified folks and opened many eyes to the “usual lies/spin” uttered by this admin. To have it immediately followed by messing with the judicial system is the sucker punch. Ya just don’t mess over OUR soldiers and OUR courts – those are local issues to many folks.
Help for Alberto Gonzales from Michele Bachmann, Freshman Senator Minnesota’s office? Why Not? It doesn’t HAVE to be LEGAL!
WHAT A GREAT IDEA! If you haven’t done anything people seem to think was good (or haven’t) request correspondence from friendly constituents and supply talking points. Michele’s letter follows below. Here are some talking points we suggest for Alberto Gonzales. Please send your letters for either Michele Bachmann or Alberto Gonzales substituting the correct name and talking points or heck just forward this! It’s easier…
1. Excellent English. Can re-define anything. Torture a specialty.
2. Deconstructs the Constitution with the best.
3. Worked well with Harriet Miers.
4. Only fired 8 instead of all 93?
5. Longtime loyal servant of George W. Bush
Frank Probst @
135
I think it is a combination of the totality of events colliding with the growing national awareness that Bush is neither shrewd, honest or competent. It is looking like a Hackocracy more and more that benefits a few and screws the rest.
Peoples bums are getting sore and they don’t have the money for Oxycontins to kill the pain.
-GSD
I am a textbook Gemini, literally.
From Linda Goodman’s Star Signs:
And:
I swear she’s been reading my journal.
Frank Probst @ 135
They couldn’t do anything. Now it’s time for some ‘oversight’.
OldCoastie @ 141
Kyle Sampson.
That’s my guess.
Frank Probst @ 134
FDL. MyDD. Waas. McClatchy. Josh. Taylor. On it like we/they do.
Russ. Waxman. Leahy. Schumer. Feinstein, and the rest, all in charge.
They’re not all my favorites, but they know recent blood when they smell it.
Suzanne @ 143
I sort of understand that, but the focus is still almost all on the attorney purge. Meanwhile, the vets that we sent into a pre-emptive war for bogus reasons are still getting shitty medical care. And we’re sending MORE troops into that very same war.
Kyle must be pissed.
OldCoastie @ 140
Schumer said the leaks are coming from within Justice because they are fed up.
They are speaking up before Rove comes for them, finally.
-GSD
GSD @ 150
I can’t wait for CIA/DIA/State to get fed up.
OldCoastie @ 151
Wouldn’t you be? I heard he was on track to be Rove’s Rove, that he’s exactly the same sort of calculating, cold-blooded political assassin. Rove and Abu hung him out to dry. You bet he’s pissed.
I also think that Abu, as the face of this scandal, is particularly creepy and irritating to a lot of people. He’s got no bluster like Rummy or pomp like Cheney. He’s just an oily little weasel, easy to bully and stomp, a Texas tin-pot lawyer who lucked into the office of the most powerful law enforcement officer in the land.
Trouble is that he’s stupid. He is to the Peter Principle what nuclear explosions are to static cling.
Frank Probst @ 135
Been having this same thought alot recently. Is it b/c Repukes (thank god for Mean Jean!) think they gotta start cleaning house in order to win future elections? Is the media playing along now that polls are consistently in Democrats favor? Have the sheeple finally had enough, and this USAttorney scandal was the straw that broke the camel’s back? Maybe all the above and more, but like you said, happy it’s happening finally.
We need to make sure this all goes down as Republican’s doing, and not the “Bush Administration’s” doing.
From CNN.com:
FULL STORY
• Rove defends firings Video
• Gonzales profile | GOP senator calls for head
• Interactive: What is U.S. attorney? | Who’s ousted
At long last, it looks like we may have our Lewinsky moment.
-GSD
TRex @ 148
I don’t think so. Kyle and Karl are BFFs, aren’t they? Anyway, Kyle already agreed to take the fall for this. He’d be risking his wingnut welfare if he got caught doing this. My money’s on Harriet Miers. I think she got tired of the “It was all Harriet’s idea!” talking point.
The big winner here is Dick Cheney. The Plame story got knocked out of the news by this whole scandal. Until tomorrow morning, anyway.
Interesting to watch them all turn on each other… man! how much would it suck to be part of that crew?
Josh has the USA timeline up!
Bil @
119
She honest to god thinks she’s hot.
TRex @ 154
I have to disagree with the assertion that he “lucked into” his office even though he’s a “Texas tin-pot lawyer”. He got the job BECAUSE he’s a “Texas tin-pot lawyer”. Luck had nothing to do with it.
night, all… gotta get some sleep tonight…
Frank Probst @ 157
I almost wonder if Dick is the one feeding the the e-mails out. Nah, he wouldn’t do something like that, would he….?
g’nite OC
AZMatt – Dick was my first thought, but I couldn’t figure out how he got access…
‘night, Suzanne…
OldCoastie @ 139
Inside the Justice Department. Conventional wisdom is that the career professionals are throwing Speedy under the bus, now that they have an opening to do so.
Good wishes to Valerie Wilson tomorrow morning!!!
LoudounLib @ 139
You are very welcome. THAT IS a Congressperson!
Here’s another if you have the stomache…also filmed at the Living Word “Church”. MIchele Bachmann is an alumni sister of Ted Haggard from Oral Roberts University. Amen!
Bachmann says she “Is a Fool For Christ”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ4wtwcrybM
I agree. Inside the Justice Department is how I read the release. The big question around DC has to be the who.
Terry Olson said of Michele Bachmann,
“She honest to god thinks she’s hot.”
Didn’t Katherine Harris also suffer from that same affliction?
I just can’t get the visual of Jean Schmidt slipping and falling into a pool of vomit out of my head. It’s like Viagra for my smiley-face. Should I consult my physician if it persists for more than four hours?
Bil @ 167
Time will demonstrate, more than adequately, that Christ had absolutely nothing to do with that condition.
TRex @ 146
that would be pretty incredible. linda goodman passed a few years ago ;)
OldCoastie @
158
Not enough. I haven’t seen enough justice meted out to suit my tastes, yet.
Frank Probst @
135
Totally. It’s still unbelievable to me that W was elected in 2000, much less 2004. This scandal is one of the less important ones. That’s why W will be, ultimately, impeached.
It’s always swell to hear more about my new muse Michele. As sad as I was to lose Katherine, I must say that Michele has already blazed a new trail of wackitude, and may end up eclipsing Katherine completely.
And, TRex, have a good time at dinner tomorrow and enjoy yourself! You’ll be dino-mite!
Frank Probst @ 135
IMO, it’s because people get upset with the egregious abuse of power represented by the administration using a particular branch of government to bash the heads of political enemies in and/or to show favoritism to their political pals. Consider if this were the IRS being used instead of the Justice Dept. Nixon tried that; didn’t work then, won’t work now. Besides, the Justice Dept. represents the Rule of Law. Once that is overturned, there is no turning back.
johnSwifty @
78
Sixty foot! He almost crunched me alive last time I said forty.
OldCoastie @
141
Harriet? A woman scorned…
I think Gonzo is the weakest link.
Goodbye.
bonkers @ 155
It may be this, as per looseheadprop’s post earlier today:
Did she fall in her OWN puke? What would have made her puke? Was there a mirror?
newtonusr @ 159
awesome work! congrats to josh!!!
With Gonzo, Rove, and a cast of thousands looking poised to go feet-first into the big Congressional Hearing wood-chipper…
best not to Fargo the pleasure, eh?
Lovely, TRex.
FREEP THIS POLL
Should Abu resign?
http://www.politico.com/index.html
See, shit only happens when the rich bastards get pissed off. Tens of thousands of people from New Orleans whose lives have been ruined? Not a ripple.
But by god, let some six-figure earning suits get the shaft and the fucking Red Sea parts for them.
America, America, God shed his grace on thee.
Please.
rwcole @ 183
A lie detector.
Oh, and HEY, SPOCKO!!!
HotFlash @ 186
He brings out the poet in me, it seems.
Miserable little turnip.
Terry Olson @ 180
hell hath no furry…
::pops head in:: I’ve just gotten home and am peeking my head in before bed. I need to post my random saunter-by comments, don’t you know?
I must say, Mr. Sauropod, that you and your fountain pen thing are eeee-vil. I’ve bought one Waterman Kultur from France and now have another on the way. The darn things are addictive.
Also, my crazy butt, along with the rest of me, volunteered to walk in and raise funds for the Breast Cancer 3-Day today. I appreciate a good challenge, but that one’s going to be interesting. I’m walking in memory of my cousin who lost a 10 year fight, but I was thinking of Jane, as well.
Now, to actually read the rest of the comments.
TRex @ 188
Right on, brother. That’s it in a nutshell right there. United we stand, huh?
jean schmidt – now her back matches her front.
TRex @
181
The weakest dink.
-GSD
Now I have to get to bed and rid my mind of Jean Schmidts face.
punaise @ 185
yea, sure.
This thing is getting more coverage than other scandals cause the administration obviously lied to congress. This pisses congress off. It’s one thing for them to lie to the american people- in that case gooper congress critters figure that it was done for the good of the team- but when they lie to the gooper congresscritters themselves- well that’s different ain’t it?
punaise @ 188
… like a Bushie porned.
Regarding the timing of the news release about the tribunal for The Mastermind being opportunistically driven, at first glance it would appear to possibly relate to an attempt to deflect attention away from the US Atty scandal. Interestingly, a closer look shows that back on February 8th, 2007, they gave notice of the evidence against Khalid which predates much of the intense brewhaha over the US-A’s.
But what else happened on 2/8/07 ? Patrick Fitzgerald rested his prosecution case against Scooter Libby barely two weeks after opening statements. The tribunal went down four days after Libby became a convicted criminal. Kind of makes me wonder if, after Fitz’s shattering effect, BushCo must have known it was time to find the keys to KSM’s iron hole, pronto.
.
Here’s the other thing- if the firings were intended to stop an investigation, then it’s obstruction of justice- as when Nixon fired Cox. That could be VERY deep doo-doo that could end up at Bush’s door.
TRex @ 154
I don’t think he’s necessarily stupid; just mediocre. I swear, Ayn Rand would go positively bonkers if she was around to see this entire administration. Not an above average individual among them.
punaise @ 188
hell hath no furry…
hmmm, hell hath no furry… tail?
or maybe, hell hath no furry…woodland friends?
In the WaPo:
LINK
The San Diego lawyer was supposedly about to go after another gooper congresscritter- Lewis. Pulling the plug on her was likely obstruction of justice- as was Bush pulling the plug on an investigation that involved Abu- at Abu’s request.
You’d think these lawyers would know enough to stay out of indictable territory- but NO!
Frank Probst @ 150
I think it’s also because it’s the first one that’s broken since the Dems have had subpoena power (other than Walter Reed), so it can’t just be swept under the rug, and that the combination of firing prosecutors who are investigating your people and abusing law enforcement against your political enemies is such easily understood as corruption and abuse of power. Anyone who has lived in or read about a city that has had a corrupt mayor understands this one.
Many of the past scandals (war, torture, wiretapping) are arguably more serious, but dragging something out of the past and trying to convince people that it isn’t old news is much harder than exposing a fast-moving scandal where the culprits don’t have time to decide on canned responses. The Dems can legislate to make sure they don’t happen again, but making the original wrongdoing scandalous is much harder at this point.
(And Walter Reed fell into the category of scandals where it was hard to pin anything on the White House other than “they’re the boss, so it’s their fault if their appointees weren’t doing their jobs,” so it can actually be made to go away with a few non-WH resignations.)
Ann in AZ @ 201
You say that like it’s a bad thing…
Rushton @ 172
I would if I had a penis.
(Mod Note: Beware of words that get trapped in filters – such as rx drug names and certain body parts- thanks)
GO bonkers? Impossible. She always WAS bonkers.
Hmmmm…seems the moonbat fringe warned America about this man Al Gone-zales.
Betcha David Broder was impressed with Mr. Gonzales after a nice quail dinner with that nice young whippersnapper Karl Rove.
-GSD
P.S. The NYTimes focuses in on the “voter fraud” fraud.
LJ/Aquaria @
20
707!
Or maybe the vomit was to put out this hot little Republican harlot’s fire!
BTW Anyone recall the story about the Vietnam Vet Against The War that was hauled in for interrogation by the Secret Service after a reporter asked him “What would you say to President Johnson if you had the chance to meet him face to face?” The Vet said “Nothing that he doesn’t know…in fact, I’d probably vomit on him!”
The Secret Service considered it a threat to LBJ’s life!
rwcole @ 197
Yes,I agree, but it’s more than just the administration lying to Congress–they did that with the illegal NSA wiretapping and so many other things.
The difference is that the latest round of lies–about the USA firings–represented the administration’s first attempt to respond to 11/7/2006. Knowing they were facing multiple Congressional hearings, the thugs formulated a strategy, it would seem, of trying to bluff/lie their way out of trouble.
They didn’t get away with it, thanks to people like Josh Marshall who wouldn’t let go of the story (see Columbia Journalism Review). Once the new, Democratic Congress realized what was happening, it responded by asserting its institutional powers, something the old Republican Congress wasn’t willing to do for fear of provoking rage and punishment from Bush, Cheney, Rove and their ilk.
It’s not just lying to Congress–it’s lying to a Congress that is not willing to roll over and play dead. Let the hearings commence.
squirrel hiller @ 202
as a squirel you are categorically exempt from hell, one supposes.
_ _ _ _
Joni – Furry sings the blues
Kalid Sheikh Muhammad, psychic criminal.
-GSD
GSD @ 209
Excellent! I hope we get a lot more coverage of this bit of BS.
Rob Zuber @
99
Lam’s appointment covered his district (as well as Duke Cunninghams) so maybe he is trying to suggest that he was’t behind the firing…perhaps a pre-emptive strike if someone mentions his name in this.
SF Chronicle:
not belittle the downturn (it is real) – it just seems odd to see ’slump’ defined in part as a modest rise in prices.
bonkers @ 206
I Wikipediad Alan Greenspan yesterday, and do you know that he had a 20 year “association” with her?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A…..rly_career
watertiger gets in a Biden zinger (below pic)
bonkers @ 193
Would y’all say that if your favorite candidate was caught up in false charges brought by a corrupt USA who was a partisan hack, and he lost the election because of it? Would you say it if a Rethug won an election because some partisan USA buried charges against him so he could win? How about if Duke Cunningham never got prosecuted because Carol Lam went along with the program and focused her efforts on immigration because it would better please the powers that be? How do you think these guys got re-elected anyway? This actually affects us all.
rwcole @ 208
Sorry, I loved the Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged.
Someone pointed out that a reason this scandal may carry the day is that TradMed is neither complicit nor entwined, unlike other (worse) crimes of BushCo — his 2000 election, the runup to war & the betrayal of Plame.
I gave that comment a ding! but I can’t recall whose comment it was.
Apparently Abu is attempting to try a version of Scooter Libby’s “memory defense.” It seems he was so preoccupied with getting ready for his confirmation hearings that he cannot remember every conversation he had during that period about trivial matters such as obstructing justice and firing U.S. Attorneys for not allowing partisanship to affect their professional judgment.
According to CNN.com,
“Thursday night, the Justice Department said Gonzales “has no recollection of any plan or discussion to replace U.S. attorneys while he was still White House counsel.” (Watch the administration work on damage control )
“The period of time referred to in the e-mail was during the weeks he was preparing for his confirmation hearing, January 6, 2005, and his focus was on that,” Justice spokeswoman Tasia Scolinos said in a written statement. “Of course, discussions of changes in presidential appointees would have been appropriate and normal White House exchanges in the days and months after the election as the White House was considering different personnel changes administration-wide.”
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITI…..index.html
The reason this has gotten everybody’s attention, in my opinion, is because it’s Bush turning on his own chosen people. This has cut his base at least in half, with people realizing that Bush isn’t going to back anybody up for anything, and actually throw them off the ship to save his own very stupid skin.
This has opened a lot of eyes that had remained closed because of the Republican name. I think it’s now Neocons vs Republicans, and we should be calm and welcoming to Decent Republicans (there are some, I’ve even lived in the same house with them) who are coming out of their trance.
Ann in AZ @ 219
I did, too, until I realized what she was advocating for. Her books are great fiction. Too bad her followers don’t understand that.
rwcole @ 204
AbuG’s legal skills consist solely of saying to W: “This is how, sir”
Terry Olson @ 217
Didn’t know that. Oh, well, to each his own, I guess.
cinnamonape @ 215
And conversely, Sununu was the beneficiary of the New Hampshire election phone-jamming (details via TPM.) The NH US Attorney (one of the non-fired “loyal” ones) declined to pursue the connections from that case to the White House. So his call for Gonzo’s resignation may just be to insulate himself, too.
TRex, YGM
Alicia @ 224
I didn’t buy into her philosophy either; like you said, her books are great fiction.
There’s something to be said for Ayn Rand’s philosophy, I think, in that a truer path might be found for society by having each person put forth his/her own self interest as a valid point to be considered. A lot of legislation goes astray when people start legislating with they think are in other peoples’ interest, even when this is done with good will. Think about “poverty” programs, or in our current case, abortion rights. Everybody wants to legislate what’s good for everybody, in their opinion. A truer path can be found when the people involved can speak for themselves. Of course, some people’s self interest includes gulping down all the profits and paying no taxes. That’s why we need honest, reasonable representational government.
neurophius @
222
Isn’t this the Scooter Libby “very important and very busy” defense?
Night, all. Ten AM in the east is 7:00AM here and I must be well rested for the Plame game tomorrow!
Redshift, I had the same reaction to Sununu’s statement — he needs to get in front of the revelations once this story turns to “What about the USAs who stayed? What did they do to keep their jobs?
The Narcissist Defense.
It worked so well for Scooter.
itwasntme @ 230
Hmmmmm. But that’s sort of how the rest of the world’s industrialized nations handle healthcare, and they get better health care at half the cost. Maybe, just maybe Rand and Reagan were dead wrong.
Wigwam @ 235
“Trickle down” economics somehow never get around to trickling down. Trickle doesn’t.
If it is past midnight where you are, it is the fourth anniversary of the death of Rachel Corrie, a young American peace activist, killed in the Gaza Strip.
Here’s to Rachel’s memory!
Shhhh!
Mentioning Ayn Rand makes Andrea Mitchell head right for her bottle of gin!
Ed*ard Teller @ 237
God bless her soul. Poor girl.
Maybe this addressed above, but hey, it’s 236 messages. Anybody know if Valerie’s testimony will be televised and, if so, where and where?
News Grinder @ 240
10am Eastern; CSPAN is supposed to carry it.
Y’know, they say W doesn’t use email. Ever. I bet he learned that from Rove, who doesn’t seem to use it much either.
cinnamonape @ 213
Rohrabacher is just a petulant baby. He’s not clever enough to be triangulating on this. He just hates Bush and Gonzales for not pardoning those two border agents and — above all — not respecting him: (no linky to right-wing rag)
Wahhhhh.
TeddySanFran @ 242
Can either one of them type?
TeddySanFran @ 241
Many thanks. Gotta go set the alarm…
itwasntme @ 223
There has been a lot of dissatisfaction lately with this Admin among a lot of conservatives, but up to this point, they’ve been pretty much silent. I think what may have finally roused their ire is that it was their own being thrown under the bus this time. I suspect some of these USAs were friends/associates, and it was just too much too see people they knew and respected getting slimed by the WH. This was just one step too far even for them.
TeddySanFran @ 242
Shrub said that he learned from Clinton that it wasn’t a good idea to use email.
Ed*ard Teller @ 244
Not with their fingers in our pockets.
Wigwam @ 235
I wish the Democrats would expand on this meme. They should be out there telling Joe & Jill Lunchbucket that the Republicans are selling a crackpot agenda that has no basis in reality and if they continue to buy into it they will be stuck with the political equivalent of the Ab-Lounger, penis extender, 50 pound weight loss in 2 weeks diet suplement and that it’s high time to wise up, make a trip to the landfill, and slam the door in the GOP’s faces for at least a few generations to come. Can I get a witness here?
I’ve been stuck at work all freakin’ day and am so behind on my blog reading! Have pity and help me out, ok?
Has anyone seen info about the WH emails with the odd addresses, like gwb43.com? I keep thinking about the emails in the Fitzgerald investigation that “weren’t archived in the usual procedures.”
The ones that Rove coughed up in late ‘04 (guessing on the date.)
If that’s the case, OMG, what fabulous dirt does Fitz must have these criminal bastards.
I’m sure this has been discussed to death already and I missed it. :(
TeddySanFran @ 242
I recall a story of WH staffers, I believe Rove included, who found it ‘useful’ to use pre-paid disposable cell phones.
TRex @
236
I apologize for being grumpy on this point, but progressives are forever running against Reagan and his “unseen-hand job.” The free market is a good way to organize somethings some of the time. But it’s not going to replace big government. Industrialized nations have and need big governments. The Republicans want to run the U.S. like it was a banana republic. And that’s how you get disasters like, post-Katrina New Orleans, the privatized portiong of Walter Reed, the reconstruction of Iraq, and the U.S. healthcare system which costs twice as much per citizen as thost of the rest of the industrialized world and only covers half if the citizens.
TheOtherWA @ 249
I did see someone bring that up earlier today. Wasn’t it a Rove and/or Hadley email that wasn’t in the usual pile?
speaking of astoturf (he presided, if not over its introduction, certainly its propagation via the interchangeable donut stadia of the 1070s):
also, the advent of free agency. Curt Flood never got his due.
TeddySanFran @ 238
Then, shout it from the rooftops! Andrea can be so amusing when she is drunk.
It was a kr at gwb43 dot com address that surfaced that led to the question of any of the non-archieved in the usual proceudres questions downthread.
News Grinder @ 252
I did see someone bring that up earlier today. Wasn’t it a Rove and/or Hadley email that wasn’t in the usual pile?
Yes, it was. I wonder what domain it was written from?
TheOtherWA @ 256
I did see someone bring that up earlier today. Wasn’t it a Rove and/or Hadley email that wasn’t in the usual pile?
Yes, it was. I wonder what domain it was written from?
I remember being so disappointed it wasn’t an email created after the fact to cover some tracks. I had a great conspiracy theory going for a while.
TeddySanFran @ 242
I wonder why any of them do on the slimeball stuff.
Ann in AZ @
178
OK but exactly how does any of this top the outing of Valerie Plame with the horrendous damage to the nation both directly and, worse, indirectly?
Usually there has to be a sex angle to really get scandals white hot. Abuse of power is not exactly a grabber for tabloid-style reporting.
Best, Terry
Ed*ard Teller @ 237
Rachel.
News Grinder @ 240
C-SPAN 1, sometime after 10am. That’s when the hearing starts, though if it’s the usual form the congresscritters will get to blather before the witnesses testify. She’s first on the list, but there’s no schedule or indication whether that’s the actual order they’re testifying.
Muzzy @ 251
Just like the rest of the pimps in that part of DC…Reminds me of back around 1990 when George I was president and he had an oval office TV speech about the coke “epidemic.” He held up a bag of what he claimed was coke, saying it had been scored within a block of the White House. Ms. ET commented at the time “probably fell out of his son’s pocket.”
Peace Rachel.
*snerk*
I like her.
I like her a lot.
bonkers @ 138
fresh tomato, to me is on par with Joe LIEberman…
TRex @ 265
Not as much as I like your mom.
Terry, here’s my guess. In the summer of 2003 when Plame was exposed, most people were still high from the war adrenalin. Plus, it was so outrageous and over the top for any administration to damage national security that way, it was easier for them to believe the crazy shit the wingers put out about Joe and Valerie.
In a “post 9/11 world” they simply refused to see what was in front of their faces. JHMO.
TRex @ 188
Not to mention quite a few who are no longer among the living.
You have to go upstairs to the “suffering middle class”(tm} and above.
Best, Terry
Suzanne @
94
Since you asked…For the late late nite FDLers, SI, mucho activity in the cielo:
1) Partial Solar Eclipse in PIS (Sun 3/18) squaring PLUTO, no less
2) Vernal Equinox (Tue 3/20)
3) Grand Fire Trine (Jupiter in SAG, Saturn in LEO, and a host of planets moving through ARIES from MAR – JUN 2007)
General interpretation? Glad you asked!
1) MORE stripping down of illusions
2) Spring has sprung!
3) Think TALKING HEADS and “Burning down the House” !! When the barn burns down, we can better see the moon…
Hold on to your seats, FirePups…you have everything to do with these winds of CHANGE!
Slainte!
TeddySanFran @ 242
Well, ya. There’s a record. Much better to huddle.
Caesar: Well, Seer! The Ides of March are here!
The Seer: Aye, Caesar, but they are not gone.
Oh, no, 41 just went and told Jr to get him a bag a blow, and asked him where he bought it to help make the story better.
:)
Rushton @ 249
Testify! We need to stop with the weasel-words to appease market-worshipers, and start doing a better job of explaining what government is for, and counter their “government is the problem” nonsense by explaining why everyone should want a well-managed government.
Alicia @
224
Dominique’ was a very early fantasy for me… don’t tell me she wasn’t real,
I can’t hear you!
Bonkers = Michele Bachmann & Mean Jean Schmidt.
A good day for the good guyz and good galz.
I’m expecting Friday to be even BETTER.
Bushco thinks we don’t remember the stuff they slime out on Fridays.
We learn, we remember.
Good night, fire pups. That Waxman hearing starts at 7am here on the west coast, so I’m off to bed.
I want Abu’s head on a silver platter by 5 p.m. EDT Friday.
*Mod note: metaphorically speaking, of course*
TheOtherWA @ 274
7 AM! I’m off to bed too – sweet dreams all.
So Waxman’s hearing is scheduled to begin at 10:00 a.m. EDT? Is there a list of appearances in order of appearance? And, was Marcy checking the Plame house today ’cause she’s going to be covering the hearing? And – I asked this one on an earlier thread, but didn’t get an answer – do they let you live blog congress?
I’m sure this has been noted here earlier, but Digby dishes up a big-ass shoutout for Marcy, Christy & looseheadprop.
I could not agree more.
7am PacTime comes too soon… off to bed. Nite all.
I’ve got to head off early tonight too. Those real estate agents appear to have conspired so that I am never able to sleep past the crack of noon anymore. g’nite all
ET I think the list in order of appearance was posted near the bottom of the last thread.
LJ/Aquaria @ 17
I have to admit I felt sorry for her after this incident. It will pass, though.
TheOtherWA @ 273
Actually, they sent out federal agents to find a coke dealer and convince him that he had to come over to Lafayette Park (next to the White House) to sell it to them. All so Poppy wouldn’t technically be lying (just knowingly peddling a bogus story.)
It’s kind of amusing, by comparison. Bush the Younger wouldn’t go to all that trouble. He’d just lie.
Cujo359 @ 281
I confess that it makes me dread the next incredibly gross, super-embarrassing public moment that I will inevitably have. I just hope to god I’m not famous enough at that point that someone will feel the need to blog it.
I’ll probably soil myself while sitting on a panel at YKos.
Ed*ard Teller @ 279
ET, link to Henry Waxman’s very useful website, has updated list of witnesses. Marcy w/b at the hearing, don’t know if she can liveblog, sorry. How’d your son’s ski races go?
edited the link in
Not so OT I think:
My bride of nearly half a century is rather apolitical. Got much better things to do.
She has only the vaguest comprehension of the firestorm that is engulfing the White House though her view of Bush is little different than mine.
A real grabber for her was the high priests in Guatemala needing to cleanse the ancient Mayan ruins after a visit by a very dirty old man. She asked me what he did. How could I tell her just being there was enough? LOL!
You just can’t top symbolism. The poet has it all over the novelist as Dostoyevsky was wont to remind readers of his long, long writings. A couplet or even a cartoon can do what a full library of other documents can’t.
Thanks so much to TRex for saying that Gonzo is to the Peter Principle what nuclear explosions are to static cling. See how it works?
TRex is a poet and don’t know it.
Best, Terry
Thinking about Rachel Corrie. I’m playing Jascha Heifitz performing his transcriptions of Gershwin’s Three Preludes.
In 1953, Heifitz, the 20th century’s greatest violinist, went on a tour of Israel. He programmed Richard Strauss’s Violin Sonata. The Israeli government asked him to remove the sonata from his programs. Heifitz refused. The Israeli press slammed him for this, claiming Strauss had been a tool for the Nazis. Heifitz disagreed, saying Strauss resigned his posts in the German government rather than disown his earlier artistic relationships with many important Jewish artists, such as Hugo von Hofmanstahl. Heifitz added that he thought the music spoke for itself and should be heard.
After one of Heifitz’s concerts, an ultra-Orthodox man came up to Heifitz and slammed a club onto the master’s bowing arm. Heifitz had to cancel the remaining concerts. Within two years he could no longer play, his arm destroyed.
At least Heifitz got to live. Long live Rachel Corrie’s memory.
TRex @ 284
don’t tell me you’re the strong, soilin’ type
punaise @ 287
The schlong Soylent type.
Good people.
Mmmmm.
Hot Flash,
31st in the state meet out of about boy 180 skiers. We’re proud of him. His HS athletic career is over.
neurophius @ 277
Oh, most certainly.
Just being a bit poetic.
You know, I think my brother made that one up.
Rushton @ 249
Say it, Lakester!
g’nite, ‘pups. see you at 7 for Val’s big show.
Okay. I’m sleepy, too. Time to go and curl up with Juan C the Wonder Kitty and fall asleep listening to the rain.
Good night!
Whenever I think of Rachel, I remember this Frontline/World piece:
It is extraordinarily sad.
Rachel Corrie -
Bless you and your fierce nonviolence.
Bless your courage.
Bless your life.
Peace to you, Rachel.
g’nite, pups!
*crash*
punaise @ 298
do you have insurance?
Ed*ard Teller @ 290
Only 30 better than yours? Most satisfactory.
I’m fading fast here, ‘nite gang.
News Grinder @ 40
I am sooo with you on that. Good call.
Good Morning,
I need some advice.
Jay Severin will be appearing on Imus this morning (they are in Boston).
Last evening Severin said a number of things on his radio show which prompted me to call and leave a message with the MA Attorney General, Martha Coakley’s office.
Between 4:30 and 6 PM, he talked about wetbacks. He actually said that he wanted to set up snipers and machine gun nests at the border.
When a caller tried to explain that he’d come to the USA legally, then was illegal for awhile, and is now legal Severin questioned him about his legality. He had the man repeat that he’d been illegal but was now legal.
Severin said something like, “I wouldn’t want to have to draw a bead on you.”
Another man called with a Spanish accent and tried to speak. Severin said to call back when the man could speak English. The man then made machine gun sounds and Severin hung up on him.
I am asking the Attorney General if this has crossed the line into hate speech.
I’ve called the program manager and the business manager.
Advice?
I spoke with the news person who was about to go on at 6. I asked how this station could allow someone to advocate murder of people who are “illegal”.
It seems that the word “illegal” authorizes him to advocate murdering them. “Illegal” allows him to use the slur, wetback.
When a man call last week to explain that his wife had come to USA illegally when she was twelve, and she was now a doctor, Severin hung up saying he wanted to talk to an American.
Boston1775 @
302
Kind of iffy. Expressing personal beliefs probably has some free speech connotations which make a determination of hate speech more problematic.
That said, if he said something along the lines of, “these illegals all ought to be killed,” or to an immigrant caller, “you ought to be killed,” that could reasonably be construed as a call for the commission of hate crimes, and that would certainly cross a line.
Dunno. Sounds as if he’s skirting the line very closely, but not exactly drifting over it. Certainly would be worth a letter to the FCC about the station’s public service standards.
Good morning, pups. It’s just Friedman in the NYT today because Krugman is on vacation. I got blockquote to work in Wordpress, so I’m going there.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
Have some coffee or tea, and help yourself to some pecan coffee cake. Thank heaven it’s Friday!
montag, He’s slick. Loves to call them wetbacks and is sure he can justify it by historical explanations.
We just had the factory raid here. He was ecstatic.
But “I wouldn’t want to have to draw a bead on you?” This is on the air.
Thanks for the FCC idea. I will definitely get in touch. I also contacted the hotel in town where Imus is staying and left a message with this information.
Boston1775 @ 306
To you or me, yeah, that’s beyond the pale. Legally, maybe not. It can be taken as a literal statement–that he “wouldn’t want to…,” rather than one implying that he’d like to do just that.
That’s why I suggest he’s skirting the line, but not quite over it. As you say, he’s slick.
Cheers.
Thanks. This stuff is just so hurtful. Doesn’t advance the solution.
Former MN Senator Dave Durenberger (republican) referred to our embarrassing wingnut senator as Michele “The Big Kisser” Bachmann.
Mornin’ all!
Mornin’.
So, t, you slept in?
egregious @ 312
What makes you think I’m awake?
Dreaming of me again?
BREAKING: KSM confessed to waking me up this AM.
BROKEN: KSM confessed to setting my scale too high.
Good morning, pups. I’ll be at work during the Waxman hearings, but I’m thinking of taking an early lunch just to hear Mrs. Wilson testify.
…caller to C-SPAN just weighed in on KSM: “ksm is fat, ugly and i hate him.”
Here’s some excerpts from Fux Nooze article on today’s hearings:
twolf -
twolf1 @ 318
Interesting this next bit about VIP suites at military hospitals, what? The picture showing one of same contrasted w/those in building 18 is waaaaaaaaay beyond disgusting.
pecan coffee cake?
mmmmmmmmmmmm
Mornin’ all. Funny thing, I preached last Sunday about “Beware the Ides of March” not knowing how much fun it would be to see the dominoes start to fall
nasty snow coming our way today. Great day to sit in front of the teevee and watch the lovely Mrs. Wilson tell all that she possibly legally can.
Waccamaw @ 320
…here’s the slideshow he was just looking at: VIP Treatment at Walter Reed
twolf @ 4:50 -
Bless you, darlin’, for the linky. Between the Lake & making some ambrosia for breakfast, I was just getting ready to try to track those down. Hope they will run on dial-up.
You captured some of the insane essence of Michelle Bachman. She not only locked on Bush’s shoulder but planted a wet one on his mouth. With her own lips. Kinda flashed back to the Monica days at that sight.
(Did you notice that John McCain was snoozing and snoring during the entire SOU and he looked quite practiced at it?)
Bachman also ran her campaign on misrepresentations about herself.
She claimed to grow up in a single parent home. Yeah, her dad died but her mom remarried a year later.
She is against gays. So she completely disowned help or association with her gay step-brother.
These foster children may cummulatively reach 24 in number, but these must have been exceptionally short stays. I wonder why.
I could go on…
Commenting on TRex’s post, if it’s not too late—
I admire her having 23 foster children. It is WORK. Our extended family has taken in a lot of kids over the years. I had two homeless kids for a month and it was very stressful dealing with their multiple needs while taking care of my own kids.
What would happen to these children without someone to be there for them? “Turn them over to social services” and then what? Wait for a family to volunteer to take them in. Without a willing family the system doesn’t work.
I hope Christy can weigh in with her experience observing kids who go into foster care.
Let’s not demonize this part of Bachmann’s life, there’s plenty to dissect in her political views.
‘Morning, FirePups!
Wow, this last two weeks have been like a ride at the fairgrounds; all that’s missing is the cotton candy!! (Plenty of popcorn around here already!)
suzinmpls (326) — wow. Bachmann sounds like a major headcase. Perfect fit for the Bush admin. Somebody desperately seeking a daddy figure, but only able to recognized damaged ones. Ugh.
Rayne, anything more on the Abramoff research? I didn’t realize that the investigation had been halted until all this mess came up about the USA firings. THIS investigation is the loose end to unravel the whole tangled mess, IMO.
suzinmpls @ 326 These foster children may cummulatively reach 24 in number, but these must have been exceptionally short stays. I wonder why.
The stays can be short because parents are in the hospital or rehab or jail and are expected to get out soon.
My neighbor takes in newborns whose mothers who are temporarily unable to take care of them. You always want to work to make this time as short as possible.
Good Morning FireDogs,
which CSpan will carry coverage of Wilson/Waxman and at what time ?
Rayne – finally had a chance to read your E Pluribus Media piece- yowza ! and really liked the site itself
egregious – did you catch my question to you last night about lhp ?
cbl – looks like the whole thing starts @ 10:00 AM eastern on CSPAN 1
schedule
Since this seems to be the only thread still current today, just wanted to encourage all the Pups here with a Bible verse, one that speaks well of our noble protectors of democracy; wonder what the fundies spin this one into?
Read Proverbs, chapter 24, verses 24-25.
And thanks again for your work, you folks are on the front lines in the battle for freedom, truth and justice.
Lindy @ 329
I’m afraid I haven’t been working on that line of inquiry; seems like there is so much to investigate and simply not enough researchers to go around. However, while working with the ePluribus Media gang, I do know that we keep our eyes peeled for any relationship to Abramoff-related scandals.
In the case of the USA’s, I set up a “risk matrix” to see if there was a unifying risk factor for each of the USA’s.
One risk factor that united seven of the Gonzo Eight was Enron exposure.
Hmmm.
Anybody else for poking around in this and helping out, I’d encourage you to consider joining ePluribus Media’s community and pitching in by posting what you find. Others in the community may add to your findings, or they may use it whatever they are working on at the time or even a year later (been there, done that!). Thanks!!
Must be getting into EPUzone here, but just a heads-up that Imus is doing his St. Paddy’s show in Boston. Kerry coming up soon. Russert and Kearns Goodwin already on [wfan.com Instant Replay if you want to give a listen].
Before commenting here I sent this to the Imus show:
May your shadows be behind you, and may God hold you [and Jane and Steve and Christy especially this day] in the palm of her hand. Happy St. Pat’s all. Sure and ’tis.
thanks t!
oh my,
the reporter who broke the Randall Cunningham story (simply by googling real estate info btw)Marcus Stern
has co authored a book with his Copley assoc.
The Wrong Stuff: The Extraordinary Saga of Randy “Duke” Cunningham, the Most Corrupt Congressman Ever Caught.
t/b released in May(h/t Josh)
performance issues my ass
‘morning, gang… the coffee is ready…
new thread up top
“the reporter who broke the Randall Cunningham story (simply by googling real estate info btw)”…
Just goes to show, anyone with a computer and a keyboard and a modicum of intelligence can become the ant that starts the earthquake.
Move one strategically placed grain of sand, and the whole fault slips.
And instead of a “modicum of intelligence” start with brilliant, dedicated and resolute lawyers and experts like FDL has on board, and the ant becomes a bulldozer.
JEP @ 339
Yes, exactly.
Anyone of us — you, me — we can be heroes.
We can be the heroes we’ve needed and have been unable to find anywhere else. We need only stick our necks out just a little bit, peck at that keyboard a few more strokes, and we can uncover something every bit as important as the facts underlying the outing of Valerie Plame or the drive to an illegal war.
Self-empowerment — empower yourself to help, and we can save ourselves.
Score another one for Dump Bachmann. Funny thing is, if it weren’t for these volunteer bloggers, Michele Bachmann would be just another unknown freshman congresswoman in the minority party.