Time for TRUTH and JUSTICE!!!

uh, frist?

IMPEACH!!!!

who’s gonna do the impeaching if the dems are a lost cause too?

Alberto must go! Rove must go! Cheney must go! Impeach Bush!

Even Scarborough: “They’ve been caught in an outright lie.” Well it’s about friggin’ time.

Gonzales and KKKarl must go!

From William James’s Varieties of Religious Experience:

“Secret retributions are always restoring the level, when disturbed, of the divine justice. It is impossible to tilt the beam. All the tyrants and proprietors and monopolists of the world in vain set their shoulders to heave the bar. Settles forever more the ponderous equator to its line, and man and mote, and star and sun, must range to it, or be pulverized by the recoil.”

Torture Boy gets taken out with the rest of the trash tomorrow — Garbage Day.

“Voluntarily” stepping down so as to “not be a distraction.”

???
.

I’m at somegirl’s place, joint chiefs meeting, on my way!

impeach maine

If you’re from Maine, please download this form, print it out, collect signatures, and send it to address along bottom.

ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTAAAAACCCKKK!

And if what has already transpired this week wasn’t enough to sour ChimpCo on their prospects, Mrs. Wilson will have a few things to say tomorrow…

they’re not going to impeach anyone. they can’t even agree on Iraq legislation – the issue that got them the majority. they are lily-livered weenies.

From a German Newspaper called Express
Khalid Sheich Mohammed
HERE HE ATTACKED * The attack on the world trade center in New York 2001 * the assassinations of vacationers and an Israelian airplane in 2001 in Kenia * the attempt of an attack of shoe-bomber Reid. * HERE HE WANTED TO KILL * Attax on Big Ben, Canary Wharf and airport Heathrow in London, against the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) and other financial institutions as well as the Panama channel * A planned “second wave” of airplane attacks against US-skyscrapers such as the library tower in LA, the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Plaza Bank in Seattle and the Empire State Building in New York * An attack attempt against the former pope John Paul the 2nd at his visit of the Philippines * attax against the president of Pakistan Musharraf, against the former US-presidents Carter and Clinton * Plans for attax against US nuclear plants * against bridges in New York * against NATO-HQ in Belgium * Preperations of attax in Thailand, Israel, Turkey * The planned destruction of US and Israelian embassies in Asia and Australia, furthermore against US military ships and oiltankers on the oceans * attax against the oil firm of former us secretary of state H. Kissinger

Great post!

In those emails, who is referred to as “judge”? Gonzo?

While we are all tuned into the lovely, talented, and deadly Mrs. Plame-Wilson’s testimony tomorrow, AbuG will slip a note over the transom of the Oval: bye!

Khalid Shaikh Mohammed was the Forrest Gump of Islamic Terrorists. I guess that’s why they say that when you’re tortured, you’ll admit to anything.

Oh Brendan! Someone else who remembers the Ford Pinto fiasco! I swore back then that I would never buy a Ford because of their callous disregard for human life (anyone who does not know what this refers to go to http://www.fordpinto.com/blowup.htm or http://www.wfu.edu/~palmitar/L…..pinto.html
or many of the other sites that have the info. The short story is it was cheaper to pay out when people died than to pay for a recall.

Also, being a former Rhode Islander, do you know about the Rocky Point Movie? To be released in September.

It does my heart good to see someone else speaking with certainty about impeachment.

President Nixon Bush.
Now More Than Ever.

ccmask @ 15

In those emails, who is referred to as “judge”? Gonzo?

Believe it or not, Abu was a TX supreme court judge!!!! Then again, so was Cornyn.

No further comment

That soup looks so delicious, Brendan.

Andrew Cohen (WaPo) on the “Empty Suit AG“.

Peas in a pod, GeeW and AbuGonzo.
.

ohh, candy;

Schumer told reporters, “I know, from other sources, that there is an active and avid discussion in the White House whether [Gonzales] should stay or not,” adding that “the odds are very high that he will no longer be the attorney general.”

tee hee

picked that off of think progress

“It’s Soooouuuuppp!!!!”

I never knew that Rev! Gonzo always looked like a used car salesman to me.

ccmask @ 21

That soup looks so delicious, Brendan.

I’ve found the soup taste much richer if you substitute half a can of milk for half of the water… I’m just sayin’.

ccmask @ 25

I never knew that Rev! Gonzo always looked like a used car salesman to me.

Weak as water.

EPU’d

Hunter at it again on Kos. Last 2 graphs:

But the primary targets of investigation will likely center around the figures in what Fineman above dubbed the “Austin Gang” — Bush’s innermost circle of Texas-based political operatives, the most sanctified priests of Bush’s rise to the Presidency and the architects of the cronyistic governmental numbness and incompetence that has defined the Bush administration from Iraq to Katrina.

It’s anyone’s guess how explosive these hearings are going to be, but I’m betting on dynamite-in-a-gopher-hole levels of destruction. And after all the similar scandals that Alberto “Abu Ghraib” Gonzales has been at the core of, it’s about damn time.

Impeachment would not be wise for the professional politicians. They need to have the Repugs in office to run against them.

It’s not about doing the right thing, it’s about keeping themselves at the feeding trough, and to hell with the will of the people.

I’m glad to see the oversight, and all that comes with it. I just doubt that impeachment will happen. I hope that I wrong.

I don’t know why the Democrats think impeachment would make them look bad. Think of all the bad stuff that would come up with a proper investigation.

I wonder if that flavor comes in the microwave version?

I do believe there just be may some method to their madness, at long last. I note that the new Democratic members of the Senate who were not in Congress in 2002 apparently did not speak about the latest Iraq resolution. But those Senators who did speak, were using some of the same words we might see from many bloggers. Credit where it is due, especially since this is avowedly not the end of the story on the topic of Iraq in the Senate. More to come from the leadership and the caucus, we are being told.

Therefore I want to highlight some excerpts from the March 14 speeches on the Senate floor about Majority Leader Reid’s binding and principled Joint Resolution 9 on Iraq, which went down to defeat on 3/15, despite the support of every voting Democrat except Mark Pryor of Arkansas and Ben Nelson of Nebraska [who both voted, along with every Republican except Gordon Smith of Oregon, for continued violence in Iraq and to ignore their own Constitutional authority as members of our Legislative Branch of government]:

Senator Joe Biden of Delaware 3/14:

So if one wants to be literal about it, his mission no longer has the force of law. Everyone I have spoken with, including from the Biden-Gelb plan straight through to the Iraq Study Group, says: Look, use our troops wisely; use them wisely. What are their missions? We have the right and obligation constitutionally, and we should have the courage constitutionally, to exercise our responsibility to say: Why are our troops there?

Mr. President, I am tired of hearing about courage. The only courage being evidenced in this country is by those folks out on the battlefields getting shot at, getting killed. Why are they there?

Senator Carl Levin of Michigan 3/14:

I wish to repeat this because there are a number of Members of this body and there are a number of members of the administration who have attacked this debate as somehow or another undermining our troops. It is quite the opposite. We support our troops when we give them our best thinking as to how to succeed in Iraq. It is good for our troops to have a debate in this democracy about whether a course is failing or succeeding and, if it is not succeeding, to offer our best thoughts as to how to make it succeed.

Our troops deserve everything we can give them. They haven’t gotten it. They deserve the best equipment. They didn’t get it. They deserve treatment when they come to our hospitals. They didn’t get it. They deserve our best thinking, our honest thoughts as to how we can succeed in Iraq, how can we change course from a failing course to one which succeeds.

Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island 3/14:

We have the authority constitutionally to adopt policies, to shape what the President does, and that is the essence of this resolution.

Just today, the New York Times’ Walter Dellinger and Christopher Schroeder wrote an op-ed piece which bears on this point. They say the Supreme Court has long recognized Congress’s authority to set limits on the President’s military power, as in 1799, when it accepted Congress’s power to authorize the seizure of ships going to but not coming from French ports. Talk about micromanagement; that is micromanagement.

This policy makes sense and it is well within not only the obligation of this Congress but the constitutional power of this Congress.

Senator Chuck Schumer of New York 3/14:

I know my colleagues on the other side are in an uncomfortable position. They are torn between the policy of our President, their party leader, and what their constituencies want. By the way, the constituencies across America want this. I have seen the polling data. It is not just in places such as Rhode Island, New York, and Pennsylvania where the people are asking for a real change in strategy; it is also in places such as Kentucky, North Carolina, and Mississippi. It is throughout America. They are not doing it because they don’t support the troops or for some nefarious reason. They are doing it for a reason that is as plain as the noses on our faces: what we are doing now is not working–whether it be with 140,000 or 150,000, 160,000, or 200,000 troops.

So we are here in the hallowed tradition of our Constitution to debate what we are doing in foreign policy and war policy and whether it is right. We will stand together on this side of the aisle and state that, as patriots who support our troops, we desperately need a change in strategy and in mission. We will bring up this issue on the floor of the Senate again and again and again, until our colleagues on the other side join us, until our colleagues on the other side understand that the wishes of their constituencies are for a change in strategy, until our colleagues on the other side have the courage to tell the President that on this issue he simply is wrong. That is part of the hallowed tradition of this country. We are proud to do what we are doing.

Mr. President, I hope and pray that our colleagues on the other side of the aisle will allow this debate to go forward, that they will put forward their ideas, and we will put forward ours. Debate it we will and debate it we must. I hope and pray that debate starts to yield the change in strategy that our troops in Iraq, our people in America, the Iraqi people, and the people of the world so desperately need.

Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois 3/14:

Mr. President, the question is: What is our duty? We know what the duty of our soldiers will be when they raise their hand and take an oath to serve our country. They agree to risk their lives for America. They follow orders. They follow the lead of their commanders. They march into battle. Some come home and some do not. But what is the duty of the Congress? What is our responsibility when it comes to war?

So the obvious question is: By what authority is America still there? By what authority do 150,000 Americans now risk their lives while we stand in the safety of this Chamber?

This resolution seeks to define our mission today in realistic terms. If the President had come to Congress 4 years ago and said, I want the authority to send American troops into the middle of a civil war in Iraq, a war that has been brewing for 14 centuries between warring Islamic factions; I want American soldiers on the street risking their lives every day until the Iraqis resolve this age-old dispute, do you think we would have approved that authorization of the use of American force? Of course not. It would have been pure folly.

For those who argue that we are micromanaging the war, I guess my question for them is, isn’t it time that somebody managed this war?

continued…

And that is why, at the end of the day, this Administration will be impeached and removed from office.

ohhh…candy!

This one’s really good. Rawstory headline: New York Times: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s expansive testimony may complicate prosecution of other terror suspects

Hahahahahaha.

KSM confessed to all those crimes so U.S. will have trouble prosecuting others for them. A tad too clever those CIA & Pentagon sorts.

karen allen @ 5

Alberto must go! Rove must go! Cheney must go! Impeach Bush!

A road map to peace. ;0)

Georgesimian @ 30

I don’t know why the Democrats think impeachment would make them look bad. Think of all the bad stuff that would come up with a proper investigation.

We’ll all be sitting around the campfire at The Lake twenty years from now!

upyernoz @
4

who’s gonna do the impeaching if the dems are a lost cause too?

Oh when the smell of blood get’s strong enough they’ll get found.

Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin 3/14:

I will support this resolution because it avoids the mistakes of previous proposals to address Iraq. It does not allow the President’s misguided policies to continue. It does not tacitly reauthorize the war. It does not focus solely on the so-called surge. This is binding legislation that would bring to an end our involvement in perhaps the greatest foreign policy mistake in our country’s history.

Some of my colleagues continue to argue that Congress should defer to the Commander in Chief when it comes to Iraq, that we should give him the opportunity to change course in Iraq or that we should allow his escalation plan a chance to succeed. Those arguments ignore our congressional responsibilities.

Congress authorized this war, and it is in our power to bring it to a close. More importantly, we have not just the power but the responsibility to end a war that is draining vital national security resources in pursuit of a goal that cannot be achieved militarily.

Unfortunately, however, some in this body continue to make arguments that undermine the ability of Congress to have a serious discussion about the Iraq war. They fail to recognize that this body has an obligation to address the most pressing issue facing the country today and respond to the overwhelming sentiment of our constituents. They purport to defend the President’s prerogatives and the morale and well-being of our troops, but their rhetoric has the effect of trying to stifle open and honest debate.

While I cannot speak for the President, I am confident our troops, and our constituents, are ready for this debate. They know that in a democracy such as ours, discussion of major foreign policy issues can and should be conducted openly. So I am glad the Senate is beginning such a discussion today, and I will continue pushing this body to finally bring to a close our involvement in a war that has been a disaster on so many fronts.

Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts 3/14:

Before the war, Vice President Cheney said we hadn’t seen all the intelligence he had seen. But after the war, when things were going badly, the President said more than 100 times that we had seen the same intelligence.

On our side of the aisle, we stand with the American people. The voters told us in November to change course and to begin to bring our troops home, and that is what we are going to do.

We stand for our Constitution, in which the Congress speaks for the people in matters of war and peace and can require the President to listen.

We stand with our troops. We, and we alone, are the ones insisting on a policy worthy of their courage and sacrifice.

Senator Chris Dodd of Connecticut 3/14:

Having troops deployed overseas should not prevent us from debating critically important issues relating to the wisdom of staying the failed course the President has charted. In fact, we do a grave disservice to our troops by not having a public debate to shed light on the many questions and concerns that arise from our current involvement in Iraq.

Based on past experience, however, I have no confidence whatsoever that this President will pay any attention to this resolution or this congressional debate. That has been the history of the administration over the past many months. So I say to my colleagues, if you are truly sincere in your support, as I believe you are, for the policies expressed in this legislation, then I think we must be prepared to do far more in the coming days, I hope in the short days, to bring an end to this destructive and futile policy, including the exercise of the congressional powers of the purse. We need to stop financing the administration’s reckless strategy and put critical resources into rebuilding our military. Our troops deserve no less from this Congress.

Senator Dianne Feinstein of California 3/14:

We are breaking our own military in Iraq, even as it becomes increasingly evident that success cannot be achieved militarily.

Just consider these facts. More than 420,000 troops have been deployed at least twice; 420,000 men and women have been deployed twice. More than 50,000 troops have had their tours extended through “stop-loss” orders. Troops are being rushed into the field without proper training and without enough armor. We are leaning more and more heavily on the National Guard. Yet 90 percent of the Guard units in the United States are rated “not ready.”

Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont 3/14:

In the 2006 elections, in my view, the people of Vermont and of this Nation told us they wanted Congress to begin asserting its constitutional authority over this war and that they wanted us to rein in this administration. Most important, they told us they wanted us to begin the process of bringing our troops home as soon as possible. As a Vermont Senator, that is exactly the effort I intend to make.

[Please excuse the length of these comments/excerpts. I thought the topic and the apparent momentum in the Senate deserved the emphasis.] These are a small part of the record, more of which can be found here:

http://thomas.loc.gov/r110/r110.html

I want this guy Rove, even more than I want Cheney.

“so chunky, you could eat it with a fork”

Fleetingly saw on JoeScar a quote from some dem to the effect that we’ve only had subpoena power for 6 weeks and every tree we’ve gone up had a cat in it. Imagine what we’ll find in 6 months!

I like.

There is no mission for the troops in Iraq.

Lady of the Lake @ 18

Oh Brendan! Someone else who remembers the Ford Pinto fiasco! I swore back then that I would never buy a Ford because of their callous disregard for human life (anyone who does not know what this refers to go to http://www.fordpinto.com/blowup.htm or http://www.wfu.edu/~palmitar/L…..pinto.html
or many of the other sites that have the info. The short story is it was cheaper to pay out when people died than to pay for a recall.

Also, being a former Rhode Islander, do you know about the Rocky Point Movie? To be released in September.

“With plastic shield installed…”

Teddy – I think they’re going to try to ride this out. We keep seeing these emails released, contradicting what they are claiming the same day! They don’t have their shit together on this. But I hope you’re right. Dems are gonna get a piece of T/Blossom either way.

eCAHNomics @ 34

This one’s really good. Rawstory headline: New York Times: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s expansive testimony may complicate prosecution of other terror suspects

Hahahahahaha.

KSM confessed to all those crimes so U.S. will have trouble prosecuting others for them. A tad too clever those CIA & Pentagon sorts.

it was NOT the cia he was too clever for, they were AGAINST torture and informed the president in no uncertain terms they get LESS information that is UN reliable, that it wastes resources and time that should be used aggressing more valuable data

THAT BESIDES THE POINT THAT US TORTURING PRISONERS HARMS OUR SOLDIERS

AND we are SUPPOSED to be “winning the hearts and minds” of the Iraqi’s, torturing our prisoners RADICALIZES the Iraqi’s against us, it DEFEATS OUR PURPOSE, and it makes it almost impossible to win

ALL TOLD TO THE ADMINISTRATION BEFORE THEY INSTITUTED THEIR DEPRAVED POLIVY OF TORTURE

it was as if they WANTED to fail, it’s as if the administration was on the same team as bin laden and did everything neccessary have him win

Is there any chance that these investigations may expand to include Bush’s firing of the attorney seeking to prosecute Abramoff in Guam?
Wasn’t Bush directly involved in that?
Please excuse my lack of details, but does anyone remember this?

RevDeb @ 40

Fleetingly saw on JoeScar a quote from some dem to the effect that we’ve only had subpoena power for 6 weeks and every tree we’ve gone up had a cat in it. Imagine what we’ll find in 6 months!

I like.

You are braver than I to watch JoeScar — I can’t stand the way he sez dimm-ocrat!!

For anyone who hasn’t seen it, this is pretty interesting.

Meet Daniel Tammet, a 27 year-old math and memory wizard. He can do things with numbers that will truly amaze you. He is a savant. . . with a difference. Unlike most savants, he shows no obvious mental disability, and most importantly, he can describe his own thought process. Join correspondent Morley Safer as he explores the extraordinary life and mind of Daniel Tammet.

Earlier today, Demetrius and I just watched the clip entitled A Compulsion to Count, and spent a fair amount of time discussing it. Son in Ohio has Asperger’s Syndrome, which is on the autistic spectrum, so some of what that man said sounded familiar. I think the striking thing is that he is able to put his experience into words. People who are more severely autistic often can’t do so, and kids who are mildly autistic or have Asperger’s Syndrome may not have the insight yet.

eCAHNomics @ 34

This one’s really good. Rawstory headline: New York Times: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s expansive testimony may complicate prosecution of other terror suspects

Hahahahahaha.

KSM confessed to all those crimes so U.S. will have trouble prosecuting others for them. A tad too clever those CIA & Pentagon sorts.

BTW, I didn’t hear any MSM mention the convenient timing of the release of this transcript.

Do we know ABC’s source for today’s emails? Was there lots of blue eyeshadow detritus on them?

How about this Judge:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..15080.html

Oh the other impediment to impeachment is DC. Sort of like Dan Quail at this point, impeachment insurance. We need to get tricky dick out first. Imagine him has prez? I know, he has been the last six years already but…

RagingGurrl @ 47

Is there any chance that these investigations may expand to include Bush’s firing of the attorney seeking to prosecute Abramoff in Guam?
Wasn’t Bush directly involved in that?
Please excuse my lack of details, but does anyone remember this?

Yes I remember this and hope it will see the light of day again.

Obstruction
Of
Justice.

TeddySanFran @
51

Do we know ABC’s source for today’s emails? Was there lots of blue eyeshadow detritus on them?

Was there an “I heart George” doodle that was scribbled-out?

-GSD

Georgesimian @ 42

There is no mission for the troops in Iraq.

the troops in Iraq COMPLETED their mission, they deposed sadam, they rendered the Iraqi army useless, they discovered whether or not there were wmd’s

what was left was a diplomatic task, NOT A MILITARY TASK, our soldiers are NOT painters of schools, they are NOT a free police force, THEY ARE NOT POLITICIANS

once again, OUR SOLDIERS PERFORMED THEIR MISSION WITH UNQUALIFIED SUCCESS, however missguided the administration was to task our soldiers with that mission, they were never the less flawless in that taks

THEY COMPLETED THEIR MISSION AND NEED TO BE REWARDED, they need to be brought home the hero’s welcome, in success of their mission

Can anyone tell me the time for Waxman’s hearing tomorrow and if it will be on CSPAN ’cause I can’t hang and will have to Tivo the mofo.

Thanks,
Tim

TeddySanFran @
51

Do we know ABC’s source for today’s emails? Was there lots of blue eyeshadow detritus on them?

I do so hope she checks in soon…

TeddySanFran @ 46

RevDeb @ 40

Fleetingly saw on JoeScar a quote from some dem to the effect that we’ve only had subpoena power for 6 weeks and every tree we’ve gone up had a cat in it. Imagine what we’ll find in 6 months!

I like.

You are braver than I to watch JoeScar — I can’t stand the way he sez dimm-ocrat!!

just caught it during the commercial of something else I was watching. No, I don’t watch as a habit. They keep elevating Pat Buchanan to the status of someone who has a brain and something to say.

RagingGurrl @ 46

Is there any chance that these investigations may expand to include Bush’s firing of the attorney seeking to prosecute Abramoff in Guam?
Wasn’t Bush directly involved in that?
Please excuse my lack of details, but does anyone remember this?

With any luck. And wouldn’t it be nice to see DeLay go to jail on that?

Tim @ 56

Can anyone tell me the time for Waxman’s hearing tomorrow and if it will be on CSPAN ’cause I can’t hang and will have to Tivo the mofo.

Thanks,
Tim

starts at 10 eastern according to the Subcommittee web site.

Well, if you’re JoeScar, PatBuch has to seem pretty smart, all in all.

Never have I seen a more criminal gang so ripe for impeachment.

It’s past time for us to do this thing and to show the world that the American people know that they are criminals and will not tolerate it.

It’s the only way we can survive as a Nation.

And if the repuglicans & some dems want to go on the record as being against impeachment as the steady stream of caca oozes, nay, blasts forth, then let the world see them for what they are.

unpatriotic tools.

Tim– it’s scheduled to be on cspan1 starting at 10 and also streamed on the cmte’s website.

RevDeb @ 57

he sez dimm-ocrat!!

just caught it during the commercial of something else I was watching. No, I don’t watch as a habit. They keep elevating Pat Buchanan to the status of someone who has a brain and something to say.

of late I have really enjoydd scarborough, weather he has seen the changing wind or just needed to stand up for his party and AGAINST the neo cons who CLAIM to be republicans when in fact they are radicals

never the less, he actually called for a democratic majority to get oversite back into govenrment before the elections and since then I have liked the man and what he’s had to say

sorry

RagingGurrl @ 45

Is there any chance that these investigations may expand to include Bush’s firing of the attorney seeking to prosecute Abramoff in Guam?
Wasn’t Bush directly involved in that?
Please excuse my lack of details, but does anyone remember this?

Yes, it is part of the countless details that are being unraveled at TPM. Josh has been on this story like glue. He owns it just like FDL owns PlameGate.

angie @ 62

Never have I seen a more criminal gang so ripe for impeachment.

It’s past time for us to do this thing and to show the world that the American people know that they are criminals and will not tolerate it.

It’s the only way we can survive as a Nation.

And if the repuglicans & some dems want to go on the record as being against impeachment as the steady stream of caca oozes, nay, blasts forth, then let the world see them for what they are.

unpatriotic tools.

AMEN

A triumverate of losers.

First Bush, then Blair, now Olmert.

Noone likes you guys.

-GSD

I find it a bit too coincidental that as the election season heats up, my party the Dems, are saying things about Rove and Gonzales and seem to be just waking up to the misdeeds of the Bush administration. Where was my party, beginning in 2000,while the Republicans and the SCOTUS was busy stealing the election?

Wow, I sure hope fatface Kyle Sampson gets immunity for his Hill testimony. I want to see him testify the same day at Rover, so Olbermann can do a “separated at birth” segment.

perris @ 61

RevDeb @ 57

he sez dimm-ocrat!!

just caught it during the commercial of something else I was watching. No, I don’t watch as a habit. They keep elevating Pat Buchanan to the status of someone who has a brain and something to say.

of late I have really enjoydd scarborough, weather he has seen the changing wind or just needed to stand up for his party and AGAINST the neo cons who CLAIM to be republicans when in fact they are radicals

never the less, he actually called for a democratic majority to get oversite back into govenrment before the elections and since then I have liked the man and what he’s had to say

sorry

I maintain that he is just trying to skim off of Keith’s ratings and trying to hold on to Keith’s viewers. That was brought home last week when he had an early slot, filling in for Tucker, I think, and was back to being the wing nut he naturally is.

Stupid consultant Shrum must have been advising Hillary to make that statement about “troops in Iraq forever” today. Why did she feel pressed to say something so idiotic, unless A*P*C slipped her a roofie?

If Hillary ascends the presidency, does anyone think our support for the Israeli government will become more realistic?

Scarborough’s pronunciation of “Dimmo-crat” must be a regional affectation because I have picked it up that he uses that same vowel pronunciation in other words too.

He may be a Republican, but that isn’t one of his schticks to mispronounce things to needle the other party.

-GSD

Former President Carter has it down cold, as far as what’s going on in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Beautiful; thanks for the heads up.

RevDeb @ 68

I maintain that he is just trying to skim off of Keith’s ratings and trying to hold on to Keith’s viewers. That was brought home last week when he had an early slot, filling in for Tucker, I think, and was back to being the wing nut he naturally is.

deb, you might be right but I have to tell you, it’s really good to see a conservative telling republicans that this is not their party

it’s really good to see him call them morons, it’s really good to see a republican do these things.

ya, he might be an oportunist, I don’t dissagree but he is a very nice weapon for us to use

upyernoz @ 4

who’s gonna do the impeaching if the dems are a lost cause too?

My guess: It’ll be the netroots and the bloggers and the rare Murray Waas’s and Henry Waxman’s and Fitzgerald’s holding these abusers’ and criminals’ feet to the fire, exposing their lies and cover-ups and meta-cover-ups until public opinion shifts so dramatically into a chorus call for impeachment that the Dem-sheep will finally feel “safe” in suggesting it. Seriously – how much more evidence and how many more scandals do the Dems need to see to grow a damn collective spine and just tear the facade off these f*ckers?

On an optimistic note, tomorrow could be really interesting…. My tin-foil guess is that these KSM confessions were so released in the context of knowing Valerie would be speaking tomorrow (and that the USA scandal was about to go from festering to boiling). I’d be expecting a whole series of diversions (unless the Rovian diversion committee have started jumping ship).

yo!
here I am! last! oldest! ugliedst!

RevDeb @ 64

RagingGurrl @ 45

Is there any chance that these investigations may expand to include Bush’s firing of the attorney seeking to prosecute Abramoff in Guam?
Wasn’t Bush directly involved in that?
Please excuse my lack of details, but does anyone remember this?

Yes, it is part of the countless details that are being unraveled at TPM. Josh has been on this story like glue. He owns it just like FDL owns PlameGate.

That would be good news – straight to Bush.

I want zero of my tax dollars going to the Israeli government.

Jeez Louise, I wondered why I was down in the last thread talking to myself (hey, where’d everybody GO?).

Boy, is my face red.

Anyway, great post, Brendan!

It’s simple, but contains great truth. This mafia has pissed off a great many folks who actually love their country.

As the unraveling continues, more and more people will come out of the woodwork to rat on the rats.

It’s gonna be an avalanche of corruption spilling out!!! Gangway!

Lady of the Lake @
19

Also, being a former Rhode Islander, do you know about the Rocky Point Movie? To be released in September.

Yup. And that band doing the soundtrack? I usedto go see them back in the day, Neutral Nation y’all.

Rhode Island is a rock-n-roll state. where are you from?

RevDeb @
21

ccmask @ 15

In those emails, who is referred to as “judge”? Gonzo?

Believe it or not, Abu was a TX supreme court judge!!!! Then again, so was Cornyn.

No further comment

Not unbelievable. Remember, Judges are elected down here. You’ve seen what the majority of our voters put in office. Think they’re any different with their judges?

Mrs. K8 @ 81

Jeez Louise, I wondered why I was down in the last thread talking to myself (hey, where’d everybody GO?).

oops, I thought you knew…

VCU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Duke Duke bites the big one!

more apprpriate to the previous thread:

Blame Bill

Once again, Republicans are using the Clinton dodge — he did it too! — to justify the Bush administration’s unjustified firing of eight U.S. attorneys.

By Joe Conason

perris @ 45

eCAHNomics @ 34

This one’s really good. Rawstory headline: New York Times: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s expansive testimony may complicate prosecution of other terror suspects

Hahahahahaha.

KSM confessed to all those crimes so U.S. will have trouble prosecuting others for them. A tad too clever those CIA & Pentagon sorts.

it was NOT the cia he was too clever for, they were AGAINST torture and informed the president in no uncertain terms they get LESS information that is UN reliable, that it wastes resources and time that should be used aggressing more valuable data

THAT BESIDES THE POINT THAT US TORTURING PRISONERS HARMS OUR SOLDIERS

AND we are SUPPOSED to be “winning the hearts and minds” of the Iraqi’s, torturing our prisoners RADICALIZES the Iraqi’s against us, it DEFEATS OUR PURPOSE, and it makes it almost impossible to win

ALL TOLD TO THE ADMINISTRATION BEFORE THEY INSTITUTED THEIR DEPRAVED POLIVY OF TORTURE

it was as if they WANTED to fail, it’s as if the administration was on the same team as bin laden and did everything neccessary have him win

Fair enough. I should make sure that my criticism is meant for the masters and not for the troops.

The purpose of torture is to get the prisoner to say what you want him to say. KSM did all that and then some. I think the masters felt proud. I don’t suppose they would have anticipated any consequences beyond the victorious moment when they heard that they’d captured the baddest of the bad.

Here’s my question: Do you suppose that KSM’s confession was prerehearsed to make it difficult to prosecute anyone else for al Qaeda’s crimes? Or do you think he was motivated by hubris to take credit for everything? Or do you suppose he just succumbed to torture? Or all of the above?

GSD @ 73 It could also be Dhimmi-crat..but I agree that Joe hasn’t gone that far, yet.

Rhode Island, home of the big bug and Buddy Cianci’s sauce!

Also, the Gonzales Drip is turning into a flood. Alberto better get in touch with Jeb to buy some pumps to clean up the water.

Republican Congressman Dana Rorabacher calls for Albo to quit.

-GSD

RevDeb @
59

TeddySanFran @ 46

RevDeb @ 40

Fleetingly saw on JoeScar a quote from some dem to the effect that we’ve only had subpoena power for 6 weeks and every tree we’ve gone up had a cat in it. Imagine what we’ll find in 6 months!

I like.

You are braver than I to watch JoeScar — I can’t stand the way he sez dimm-ocrat!!

just caught it during the commercial of something else I was watching. No, I don’t watch as a habit. They keep elevating Pat Buchanan to the status of someone who has a brain and something to say.

Scarborough is a weird guy: sometimes he seems to have a clue. I know he’s none too fond of Bush, but I don’t trust the guy. How can I trust someone who can’t account for the dead intern under his desk?

sorry to throw you out brendan.

Here’s an OCR of the PDF of one of Rove’s emails; lost easier to cut and paste references from…

8ampson, Kyle
From: Sampson. Kyle
Sent Sunday, January 09. 2005 7:34 PM
To: David G. Lejbch@who.eop.gov`
Subject: RE: Question from Karl Rove

Judge and I discussed briefly a couple of weeks ago. My thoughts are:

1. As a legal matter, U.s. Attorneys serve a 4-year term and may holdover iaflefinately thereafter (all at the pleasure of the President, of course). None of the President’s U.S. Attorney appointees have served a full term yet — the first were confirmed in September 2001. and many were confirmed during the ia months thereafter. Although they serve at the pleasure of the President, it would be weird to ask them to leave before completing at least a 4-year term.

2. As an historical matter, U.S. Attorneys served at least until the expiration of their 4-year term, even where an election changed the party in power — until President Clinton fired the Bush41-appointed U.S. attorneys in 1993, nearly all of whom were in the midst of their 4-year terms. In 2001, President Buah43 fired the Clinton-appointed U.B. Attorneys, some of whom were in the mi,dat of a 4-year term, but many of whom had completed their 4-year terms and were serving in holdover status.

3. As an operational matter, we would like to replace is-20 percent of the current U.S. Attorneys — the underperfoxming ones.

(This is a rough guess; we might want to consider doing performance evaluations after Judge comes on board.) The vast majority of U.S. Attorneys, Bo-85 percent, I would guess, are doing a great job, are loyal Hushiea, etc., etc. Due to the history, it would certainly send ripples through the U.s. Attorney community i^ we told folks they got one term only (as a general matter, the Reagan U.S. Attorneys appointed in 1981 stayed on through the entire Reagan Administration; Bueh41 even had to establish that Reagan-appointed U.S. Attorneys would not be permitted to continue on through the Huah41 Administration) — indeed, even performance evaluations likely would create ripples, though this wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing.

4.As a political matter, each of our U.S. Attorneys has been recommended by one or more political leaders in their home State. 2 suspect that when push comes to shove, home-State Senators likely would resist wholesale (or even piecemeal) replacement of U.S. Attorneys they recommended (see Senator Hatch and the Utah U.S. Attorney).That said, if Karl thinks there would be political will to do it, then so do I.

—–Original Message—–
Prom: David G. Leitchwho.eop.gov jmailto:David G. Leitchwho.eop.govJ Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:34 PM
To: Sampson, Kyle
Subject: Fw: Question from Karl Rove
Let’s discu5s
—– original Message—–

From: Newman, Colin
To: Leitch, David G. Sent: Thu Jan 06 12:30:1~
2005
Subject: Question from Karl Rove

David — Karl Rove stopped by to ask you (roughly quoting) “how we planned to proceed regarding US Attorneys, whether we were going to allow all to stay, request resignations from all and accept only some of them, or selectively replace them, etc.” I told him that you would be on the hill all day for the Judge’s hearing, and he said the matter was not urgent. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, -COlin
Colin M. Newman
Office of counsel to the President (202) 456-5887

GSD @ 72

Scarborough’s pronunciation of “Dimmo-crat” must be a regional affectation because I have picked it up that he uses that same vowel pronunciation in other words too.

-GSD

I think you’re right. I never noticed but then I’ve been in Texas since 1980 (California native). Texans and southerners pick up my California accent and Californians only hear my southern accent, funny how that works ; )

Hey admins;

If you want something OCR’d for the site just let me know…

In the meantime, I’m going outside to relieve myself on a bush.

GSD @ 89

Rhode Island, home of the big bug and Buddy Cianci’s sauce!

And Haven Brothers, Don’t forget Havens!

Republican Congressman Dana Rorabacher calls for Albo to quit.

OH SNAP.
Another one. How long till he takes the walk?

And what’s crazy is that this has been coming for so long. It’s just been festering and festering like a rotten old sore, all gangrene. That’s rove right there, abject gangrene on the body politic.

OOOPS; “Hushiea” is the OCR translation of “BUSHIES”… I’ll proofread it a bit closer next time.

somegirl @ 91

sorry to throw you out brendan.

nahh, I hadda get home! I can’t take over your computer…

Here is an explanation of “Gonzo the Texas Judge” thing.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/3/15/201837/219

Er what is OCR.

RagingGurrl @
47

Is there any chance that these investigations may expand to include Bush’s firing of the attorney seeking to prosecute Abramoff in Guam?
Wasn’t Bush directly involved in that?
Please excuse my lack of details, but does anyone remember this?

Yes.

Look up diaries on dKos about that. Rove was behind it — probably with help from little Susan Ralston, whether she was officially working for Abramoff OR Rove at the time, I can’t remember now.

Probably if you look up the tagged diaries on the tag item “Guam” you’ll find a treasure trove of goodies on that particular obscenity.

JEP- that’s good work. Hope the admins will notice. Certainly would be great resource for front-pagers. If they don’t notice, well, they may just be overwhelmed.

pow wow @
39

Thanks, pow wow.

We should be hammering on Nelson and Pryor. And then we should be hammering on any moderate Repugs, particularly those running for office. Our fighting Dems deserve and need air cover.

On the other hand, if Chimp got impeached, and the shooter resigned, then, if I don’t miss my guess, we have the first woman president of the United States, and someone I’d sure as hell rather vote for over Hillary.

egregious @ 100

Er what is OCR.

Optical Character Recognition. . .scanning a doc and getting a text document.

Cozumel @ 93

GSD @ 72

Scarborough’s pronunciation of “Dimmo-crat” must be a regional affectation because I have picked it up that he uses that same vowel pronunciation in other words too.

-GSD

I think you’re right. I never noticed but then I’ve been in Texas since 1980 (California native). Texans and southerners pick up my California accent and Californians only hear my southern accent, funny how that works ; )

There is a comic, Tom Clark does a bit about being at a diner with 2 other comics, in the South and the waitress is given money for a bill that is $9.97 cents. He gives her a ten and she asks: “Do you have three PEENIES”.

-GSD

OCR= optical character recognition. Scan the pdf, use software to convert to text that can be edited. GREAT ap.

oohh…more candy from think progress;

Rohrabacher becomes #3: CBS:

More Republicans called for his ouster, and one Republican strategist close to the White House told CBS News that Gonzales is “finished.”

tee hee

too much fun tonight I have to tell you

cynic @ 104

On the other hand, if Chimp got impeached, and the shooter resigned, then, if I don’t miss my guess, we have the first woman president of the United States, and someone I’d sure as hell rather vote for over Hillary.

Not to mention an opportunity for San Franciscans to gain representation in the House of their views!

I’ll have a Gonzales on the rocks, thanks.

Link to PDF of Rove e-mails????

87:

Here’s my question: Do you suppose that KSM’s confession was prerehearsed to make it difficult to prosecute anyone else for al Qaeda’s crimes? Or do you think he was motivated by hubris to take credit for everything? Or do you suppose he just succumbed to torture? Or all of the above?

Succumbed to torture, and maybe some of it just fabricated. The whole thing is so orwellian (actually my original post was about the KSM thing, but after I wrote it it was too similar to TREx’s “shiny” post).

This administration is all about ham-handed symbolism, everything is super obvious. Having KSM confess to enrything and the kitchen sink is just their style.

Oh, and he killed bambi.

OChRe

Fiyero @ 6

Even Scarborough: “They’ve been caught in an outright lie.” Well it’s about friggin’ time.

It’s nice to see someone having the courage to use the word “lie” again rather than those lame replacement words like “misspoke”.

When’s the joint subcommittee meeting?

Hey EG, dad-in-law has made great progress. My wife came home after nearly a month. He’s more mobile every day and talking about wanting to get started with rehab.

Valley Girl @ 102

JEP- that’s good work. Hope the admins will notice. Certainly would be great resource for front-pagers. If they don’t notice, well, they may just be overwhelmed.

i saw it, will try to follow up…

lutton @ 115

When’s the joint subcommittee meeting?

ya missed it man! next time, next time…

RagingGurrl—

Link Boston Globe Black, US Attorney for Guam, removed from office in 2002 because he was investigating public corruption in Guam and Abramoff/Republican scandals involving slave labor and forced abortions in the Marianas.

by the way, i am listening to really good bluegrass right now. just sayin’.

punaise @ 84

Mrs. K8 @ 81

Jeez Louise, I wondered why I was down in the last thread talking to myself (hey, where’d everybody GO?).

oops, I thought you knew…

That’s what Mr. K8 says when I discover I’m in the kitchen talking passionately about something, gesticulating, then…silence. I turn for his response, and HE’S GONE! Went to his office and I didn’t know.

Sniff.

;-)

Did you see my comment on the name “Punaisette”?

Whither Albo?

Now the pundicks are bailing.

“I’m not calling on Gonzales to resign, but I think it’s more likely than not the way things look right now, and I obviously wouldn’t be upset about it,” – Rich Lowry, NRO.

-GSD

palosi wouldn’t be the next president if these two resigned or impeachment hearings went forward

cheney will resign first so bush can give him a pardon and in the same breath be able to name the next vp

that will probably be mccain who would get a pretty easy confirmation

then bush resigns leaving mccain to pardon him…the repugs think this might be the best chance of getting another repukelican into the whitehouse

this to me is their strategy if they think impeachement is at the door

cynic @ 104

On the other hand, if Chimp got impeached, and the shooter resigned, then, if I don’t miss my guess, we have the first woman president of the United States, and someone I’d sure as hell rather vote for over Hillary.

Nancy Pelosi for President 2007!

:~)

Punaise, a hangover from previous thread: punaise jr. will absolutely love UC Santa Cruz. My alma mater! Those were very happy days. Rosalind said Cowell College, and she is right. Congratulations.

GSD @ 106

Cozumel @ 93

GSD @ 72

Scarborough’s pronunciation of “Dimmo-crat” must be a regional affectation because I have picked it up that he uses that same vowel pronunciation in other words too.

-GSD

I think you’re right. I never noticed but then I’ve been in Texas since 1980 (California native). Texans and southerners pick up my California accent and Californians only hear my southern accent, funny how that works ; )

There is a comic, Tom Clark does a bit about being at a diner with 2 other comics, in the South and the waitress is given money for a bill that is $9.97 cents. He gives her a ten and she asks: “Do you have three PEENIES”.

-GSD

True story…

When I first moved to Texas I went in a bar, put a dollar bill down and asked for a Coors. The bartender gave my $1 worth of quarters! This happened several other times and I finally gave up and switched to Miller Lite because of it! LOL

cynic @ 104

On the other hand, if Chimp got impeached, and the shooter resigned, then, if I don’t miss my guess, we have the first woman president of the United States, and someone I’d sure as hell rather vote for over Hillary.

Oh yeah!

Blue Dido @ 125

Punaise, a hangover from previous thread: punaise jr. will absolutely love UC Santa Cruz. My alma mater! Those were very happy days. Rosalind said Cowell College, and she is right. Congratulations.

thanks – he’s following in his uncles’ footsteps (they were at Kresge and Crown)

Mrs. K8 – yes, saw it -thanks

Valley Girl @ 110

I’ll have a Gonzales on the rocks, thanks.

face down

perris @ 123

TeddySanFran @ 109

Not to mention an opportunity for San Franciscans to gain representation in the House of their views!

that’s not the way it will go down

cheney will resign first so bush can give him a pardon and in the same breath be able to name the next vp

that will probably be mccain who would get a pretty easy confirmation

then bush resigns leaving mccain to pardon him…the repugs think this might be the best chance of getting another repukelican into the whitehouse

this to me is their strategy if they think impeachement is at the door

Considering this is the timing that played out in 1973 and 1974, I expect the speedy interwebs et al. to make it happen that much faster. Why let the replacement Veep get confirmed when there’s so much coming out every day?

Rayne @ 103

pow wow @
39

Thanks, pow wow.

We should be hammering on Nelson and Pryor. And then we should be hammering on any moderate Repugs, particularly those running for office. Our fighting Dems deserve and need air cover.

Specter is also highly vulnerable to pressure right now. The AG has made a fool of him repeatedly, lying to his face. He’s already hinted he’s not amused. Whether it’s because he’s really angry about the deed or because they got caught I don’t know. But he desperately needs distance, considering both his chief counsel and his chief counsel on the Judiciary are involved.
202-224-4254

punaise @ 84

Mrs. K8 @ 81

Jeez Louise, I wondered why I was down in the last thread talking to myself (hey, where’d everybody GO?).

oops, I thought you knew…

Is there some special way to get to the latest blog? Or do you have to be in the know? I’ve also been in the uncomfortable spot of having read the entire post and comments to find myself EPU’d. Thanks for any tips. A faithful reader.

brendancalling @ 120

by the way, i am listening to really good bluegrass right now. just sayin’.

I saw Gillian Welch a while back and in her song “Knuckle Ball Catcher” she says, “a bluegrass singer can be a leftwinger”!

Rich Lowry at NRO thinks Gonzo is out and he’s not all that upset about it .

It’s Endtimes for Gonzo when that crew bails .

The key is to rid this country politically of the Bush family through criminal investigations and convictions. Otherwise this outfit is going to be with our children’s, children, and beyond. Seriously. No b.s.

Punaise@128: Kresge & Crown are fine, but locked in the tall tall trees. The view from Cowell is spectacular, and the faculty there are outstanding. (I have even taught there myself, a while back, and remain friends with some of the faculty.) The whole town is really the best place on earth (can you tell that I grew up there, too?), and you’ll always have a great time visiting Junior.

Elliott @ 37

Georgesimian @ 30

I don’t know why the Democrats think impeachment would make them look bad. Think of all the bad stuff that would come up with a proper investigation.

We’ll all be sitting around the campfire at The Lake twenty years from now!

In one year-debating dye sensitized solar cells
V silicon sliver
(dssc generates in cloudy and low light conds but has lower efficiency.overall pre dawn til twilight.even a trickle from artificial light.
suits awnings blinds etc (household gridfeed)
silicon sliver does high efficiency bright light
conditions.desert array plus high voltage,long distance DC to city and industrial plant)
In twenty years-evaluation and giggles at primitive technology(what were they thinking!)

Nice diary over at kos by Devilstower that demystifies the whole supposed Democratic “voter fraud” that Iglesias et al refused to investigate. (Sorry if not new.) It’s not the attorneys didn’t have time or were relaxing on the job, it’s cause it was all bullshit anyway. As Devilstower says nicely, “In Republican-speak, voter fraud is code for “the wrong sort of people might have pulled a lever.”" I’m glad someone is going after this angle of the whole USA embarrassment kerfuffle, scandal crime.

Ms. Miers, are you sick and tired of the Bush/Rove bus using your back as a freeway yet?

-GSD

Oklahoma kiddo @
135

The key is to rid this country politically of the Bush family through criminal investigations and convictions. Otherwise this outfit is going to be with our children’s, children, and beyond. Seriously. No b.s.

the only way to do that would be to pass a bill of attainder, if what my friend dan says is true.
if so, that is one bill of attainder I could support.

Becca @ 135

Rich Lowry at NRO thinks Gonzo is out and he’s not all that upset about it .

It’s Endtimes for Gonzo when that crew bails .

if gonzo goes they have no idea how fast the walls come down behind him

gonzo leaves every single thing he said is brought into ridicule, when he claimed the constitution doesn’t provide for habeas corpus, when he said torture has to mean loss of limb, organ or death otherwise it’s not torture

among a gazillion others

I don’t think they can afford to let him go without a fight but really, they are morons after all

Springtime for Albert.

-GSD

punaise @ 41

“so chunky, you could eat it with a fork”

I hate this canned soup anyway.

Blue Dido @ 137

Punaise@128: Kresge & Crown are fine, but locked in the tall tall trees. The view from Cowell is spectacular, and the faculty there are outstanding. (I have even taught there myself, a while back, and remain friends with some of the faculty.) The whole town is really the best place on earth (can you tell that I grew up there, too?), and you’ll always have a great time visiting Junior.

good input. Santa Cruz is a great place – I grew up just over the hill in the corner of the cats, so it’s familiar territory.

off for a few, see all L8ter

may @ 137

Elliott @ 37

Georgesimian @ 30

I don’t know why the Democrats think impeachment would make them look bad. Think of all the bad stuff that would come up with a proper investigation.

We’ll all be sitting around the campfire at The Lake twenty years from now!

In one year-debating dye sensitized solar cells
V silicon sliver
(dssc generates in cloudy and low light conds but has lower efficiency.overall pre dawn til twilight.even a trickle from artificial light.
suits awnings blinds etc (household gridfeed)
silicon sliver does high efficiency bright light
conditions.desert array plus high voltage,long distance DC to city and industrial plant)
In twenty years-evaluation and giggles at primitive technology(what were they thinking!)

*g*

carmen—

If you load the front page of the blog it should be the latest post.

Within the thread of any individual post, usually people are competing to see who can be the first to announce “New thread!”

If you F5 refresh the entire page on occasion, as opposed to hitting ‘refresh comments,’ you can see at the top if there is reference to the title of a new post.

Guess we collectively dropped the ball on the previous thread. No great mystery, sorry that you felt left out.

That IS how the great and wondrous EPU got his name known forever, because he so frequently felt stuck in an abandoned thread, poor angel!

carmen @ 133

Is there some special way to get to the latest blog? Or do you have to be in the know? I’ve also been in the uncomfortable spot of having read the entire post and comments to find myself EPU’d. Thanks for any tips. A faithful reader.

often there is a comment posted saying “new thread upstairs” or something like that. otherwise you just have to refresh your browser .

brendancalling @ 141

Oklahoma kiddo @
135

The key is to rid this country politically of the Bush family through criminal investigations and convictions. Otherwise this outfit is going to be with our children’s, children, and beyond. Seriously. No b.s.

the only way to do that would be to pass a bill of attainder, if what my friend dan says is true.
if so, that is one bill of attainder I could support.

Could you define “bill of attainder” cause I’m completely clueless.

Bush’s most radical supporters like Kyl and Cornyn jumping ship.

anyone – linky or source ?

preferably the youtube of the team of surgeons extracting Cornydog from Chimpigula’s ass

mulligatawny @ 143

punaise @ 41

“so chunky, you could eat it with a fork”

I hate this canned soup anyway.

you would! ;)

Blue Dido @ 136

Punaise@128: Kresge & Crown are fine, but locked in the tall tall trees. The view from Cowell is spectacular, and the faculty there are outstanding. (I have even taught there myself, a while back, and remain friends with some of the faculty.) The whole town is really the best place on earth (can you tell that I grew up there, too?), and you’ll always have a great time visiting Junior.

Oh! A “native”. All of my UCSC grad school friends have moved away, except for the one “native”. I do love the place, and would love to be there now. Sigh.

punaise @ 149

carmen @ 133

Is there some special way to get to the latest blog? Or do you have to be in the know? I’ve also been in the uncomfortable spot of having read the entire post and comments to find myself EPU’d. Thanks for any tips. A faithful reader.

often there is a comment posted saying “new thread upstairs” or something like that. otherwise you just have to refresh your browser .

And if they think you are goofy they won’t tell you there is a new thread hoping you’ll get lost in the apex of the vortex!

Thanks Egregious and Punaise, I don’t feel left out, just wanted to know if I was missing anything.

And Raven you’re snarky.

GSD @
142

Springtime for Albert.

-GSD

Bedtime for Gonzo.

Cornhole Cornyn was tsk-tsking yesterday. Someone speculated that he would shove Gonzales in front of the bus because he is bucking for the AG’s spot himself.

Not that good Christian man like Cornyn would engage in such palace skullduggery.

-GSD

carmen @ 156

And Raven you’re snarky.

You know how it is when you are going on and on and realize you got left behind! It is hard to watch 4 basketball games at once, scratch both doggies, talk to your bride and blog!

Wiki: “A bill of attainder (also known as an act or writ of attainder) is an act of legislature declaring a person or group of persons guilty of some crime, and punishing them, without benefit of a trial. The United States Constitution forbids both the federal and state governments from enacting bills of attainder, in Article 1, Sections 9 and 10, respectively. It was considered an excess or abuse of the British monarchy and Parliament. They were abolished in the United Kingdom in 1870, but they had in any case been rarely used.”

Basically, it would be a law banning all future Bushes present and future from participating in politics.

hey Punaise, did you know the Reiters? Son is of strawberry fame. Parents killed in PanAm runway crash on some island?

punaise@144: the corner of the cats! I know it well, from about a thousand trips. I always started that road from the Santa’s Village end, of course. For the last 10 years, whenever I drive from the Bay Area down to Santa Cruz (where I have family), I skip 17 and take the coast from 92. Adds about 15-20 miles, saves about an hour, puts me in a lovely, serene state of mind. Highly recommended. Just thinking of it now calms me down.

Fiyero @ 157

GSD @
142

Springtime for Albert.

-GSD

Bedtime for Gonzo.

double-ding!

brendancalling @ 131

Thanks for the number, brendan, but what specter needs is a subpoena of his own.

I’d like to know exactly how Michael O’Neill slipped in that PatAct revision without Specter having any clue at all about it. I’d like to know how it is that Specter’s name keeps popping up with the frequency that Orrin Hatch’s name has as we investigate the lower level staffers who’ve been doing all the leg work on the USA’s.

I think Specter needs other than what Nelson/Pryory/Repugs on the bubble should get. One thing he needs is an exit plan, and I hope the people of the Keystone State will help him find it.

“I have known (Gonzales) for a long time … and I’m concerned,” said Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas. “The appearances are troubling.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/w…..htm?csp=34

Valley Girl@152: alas, I too have moved away, but I get back several times a year, to see family & friends. Am planning to spend much of July there. I have photos of beautiful SC around home & office, to remind me of paradise (temporarily, I hope) lost….

Rayne @ 101 – Yup – that’s the basic idea, well put – if they’re finally starting to stand up, we need to have their backs and help sustain their momentum, while applying pressure on the Democratic stragglers who are taking the easy road in open defiance of Harry Reid and the caucus as a whole. [I’m pleasantly surprised, in particular, at Schumer’s apparently quite dramatic turnaround with regard to Iraq.] And Mainers, among others, need to wake up and get with the program regarding their Senate “representation”…

VG – that name does not ring a bell. (Tenerife – Canary Islands?)

BD – love that coast road!

oh yeah Chimpy nominate Kleindeinst Cornyn

Gonzo will bail when Mrs. Gonzo says, Alllberrrrto!!!!!!!!

I heard a rumor about who Bush is thinking of putting in to replace Gonzo.

Now you can’t ask me where I heard it, because a) it’s just a RUMOR among some gov’t employees, and b) I won’t tell you anyway.

Here’s the ugly notion –

Asa Hutchinson.

Ick.

I saw him on C-Span’s Wash Journal shilling for the admin in this fiasco the other day. It was so disgusting I had to change the channel before I’d throw the little teevee out the window.

Was he “auditioning” by being in the public eye to show off his public relations skilz???

I’m a little slow on the uptake – just figured out the probable origin of brendancalling.

oh, and Rudy can fail.

cbl @ 168

oh yeah Chimpy nominate Kleindeinst Cornyn

He would NEVER be confirmed ; )

punaise @ 168

VG – that name does not ring a bell. (Tenerife – Canary Islands?)

BD – love that coast road!

So I bet all you people got to go to Monterey Pop huh?

Maybe Chimpy will dip back into Poppy’s magic back and dust off anti-porn crusader Ed “The Head” Meese.

-GSD

Punaise- yes- Tenerife- just did a google. 1977.

Here’s the ugly notion – Asa Hutchinson.

Asa, ASAP, a sap

punaise @ 145

carmen @ 133

Is there some special way to get to the latest blog? Or do you have to be in the know? I’ve also been in the uncomfortable spot of having read the entire post and comments to find myself EPU’d. Thanks for any tips. A faithful reader.

often there is a comment posted saying “new thread upstairs” or something like that. otherwise you just have to refresh your browser .

RSS feeds are the best for signaling new posts. I’m on a Mac and use NewsFire. Then again, if you kinda know what the schedule is for new posts, which, other than during the Plame deluge does have a pattern, it isn’t too hard to figure out.

cbl @ 150

Bush’s most radical supporters like Kyl and Cornyn jumping ship.

anyone – linky or source ?

preferably the youtube of the team of surgeons extracting Cornydog from Chimpigula’s ass

Cornyn:”Even. Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.), the administration’s most faithful legislator, said “the appearances are troubling” for Gonzales. “I’m concerned,” Cornyn said with Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) at his side. “This has not been handled well.” The best Cornyn could offer Gonzales: “In Texas, we believe in having a fair trial and then we have the hanging.”

I may be wrong about Kyl, but I remember he expressed some irritation: all I could find to back that up is this editorial. Most of the links register his objections to the investigation, so I’m more than prepared to concede he’s been a grade-A dickhead (ie, typical republican).

Cozumel @ 164

Cornyn should be VERY worried, probably getting hysterical. Apt use of the word “appearance”, too; it “appears” we may get to the bottom of some seriously illegal behavior, and Cornyn may have some ’splainin’ to do.

Him and his buddy Ralph Reed both.

GSD @ 174

Maybe Chimpy will dip back into Poppy’s magic back and dust off anti-porn crusader Ed “The Head” Meese.

-GSD

Not a chance Smirk would appoint anyone Daddy Bush recommends – maybe Big Momma Bush but Daddy, never.

OT but worth a laugh:

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) — Prince Frederic von Anhalt has sued Fox and Bill O’Reilly after the talk show host called him a fraud for claiming he could be the father of someone’s baby.

Von Anhalt, who is married to Zsa Zsa Gabor, filed the defamation suit seeking at least $10 million in damages Wednesday in Los Angeles County Superior Court.

The claim stems from comments the talk show host made during a February 22 segment of “The O’Reilly Factor.”

“Look, this guy’s a fraud,” O’Reilly said, according to a transcript of the show posted on the network’s Web site. “We know he’s a fraud. But let’s — what I want to talk about is — he’s done. His credibility is — is finished.”

Since the show aired, von Anhalt said people give him dirty looks when he goes to the grocery store.

Mrs. Gonzo: No mas Alberrrrto, no mas…los ninos…no mas. El Gringo este malo…no mas Alberrrto!!! Yo no voy mas….ALBErrrrrto!!!

Rayne @ 179

Cozumel @ 164

Cornyn should be VERY worried, probably getting hysterical. Apt use of the word “appearance”, too; it “appears” we may get to the bottom of some seriously illegal behavior, and Cornyn may have some ’splainin’ to do.

Him and his buddy Ralph Reed both.

Cornyn is going down in 2008. Too bad he wasn’t up in 2006 or he’d already be out most likely. IMO

punaise @ 173

Here’s the ugly notion – Asa Hutchinson.

Asa, ASAP, a sap

He was one of the impeachment managers. The dems SHOULD hold that against him should this come to pass and just say no.

Rayne @ 163

brendancalling @ 131

Thanks for the number, brendan, but what specter needs is a subpoena of his own.

I’d like to know exactly how Michael O’Neill slipped in that PatAct revision without Specter having any clue at all about it. I’d like to know how it is that Specter’s name keeps popping up with the frequency that Orrin Hatch’s name has as we investigate the lower level staffers who’ve been doing all the leg work on the USA’s.

I think Specter needs other than what Nelson/Pryory/Repugs on the bubble should get. One thing he needs is an exit plan, and I hope the people of the Keystone State will help him find it.

Oh, I agree: if you visit brendancalling or saw last week’s post, you know I think Specter’s as corrupt as they come, dirtier than pigshit.

I wrote a bunch about the Specter-Hatch-Tomlinson-O’Neill connections at BC, and marty at Booman has some interesting thoughts as well. So does Lutton Square.

punaise @ 144

Blue Dido @ 137

Punaise@128: Kresge & Crown are fine, but locked in the tall tall trees. The view from Cowell is spectacular, and the faculty there are outstanding. (I have even taught there myself, a while back, and remain friends with some of the faculty.) The whole town is really the best place on earth (can you tell that I grew up there, too?), and you’ll always have a great time visiting Junior.

good input. Santa Cruz is a great place – I grew up just over the hill in the corner of the cats, so it’s familiar territory.

Do you recall the indoor heated swimming pool with the fountain (on the boardwalk)? And the roller coaster? And the Coconut Grove dance hall?

Cozumel @
172

cbl @ 168

oh yeah Chimpy nominate Kleindeinst Cornyn

He would NEVER be confirmed ; )

10-4 on that one. Even Texans don’t like him, and that takes some doing for a Republican. He’s vulnerable.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 187

Do you recall the indoor heated swimming pool with the fountain (on the boardwalk)? And the roller coaster? And the Coconut Grove dance hall?

didn’t know the pool – everything else is still there

punaise @ 171

I’m a little slow on the uptake – just figured out the probable origin of brendancalling.

YUP.
My friend Neil Cleary insisted. And if you know Neil Cleary… well you just do what Neil says.

LJ- I’m not sure where it was, but maybe on one of Brendan’s threads where people were talking about mailing bricks. Please confirm that this is a bad idea.

LJ/Aquaria @ 187

Cozumel @
172

cbl @ 168

oh yeah Chimpy nominate Kleindeinst Cornyn

He would NEVER be confirmed ; )

10-4 on that one. Even Texans don’t like him, and that takes some doing for a Republican. He’s vulnerable.

The last time I looked his JAR here was in the low 40’s. He’s toast ; )

Valley Girl @ 191

LJ- I’m not sure where it was, but maybe on one of Brendan’s threads where people were talking about mailing bricks. Please confirm that this is a bad idea.

The kind of bricks I used to mess with :)!

punaise @ 188

Oklahoma kiddo @ 187

Do you recall the indoor heated swimming pool with the fountain (on the boardwalk)? And the roller coaster? And the Coconut Grove dance hall?

didn’t know the pool – everything else is still there

The pool was near the merry go round. It’s long gone, I know. I’m old.

Balrog-
Are you lurking? Any news on the latest firepuppy yet?

THIS JUST IN!

Kahlid Shiek Muhammed has confessed to killing Chandra Levy, Lacey Peterson and the Lindberg Baby!

My memory may be faulty, but if not LJ was/ is a postal carrier, and she had some cautionary comments about this, maybe a year ago.

Fiyero @ 138

Nice diary over at kos by Devilstower that demystifies the whole supposed Democratic “voter fraud” that Iglesias et al refused to investigate. (Sorry if not new.) It’s not the attorneys didn’t have time or were relaxing on the job, it’s cause it was all bullshit anyway. As Devilstower says nicely, “In Republican-speak, voter fraud is code for “the wrong sort of people might have pulled a lever.”" I’m glad someone is going after this angle of the whole USA embarrassment kerfuffle, scandal crime.

I agree; it’s a good one to bookmark, ’cause we’re going to be hearing about that one forever. The one thing he didn’t cover was the way the wingnuts present “voter fraud” to non-racists in a way that sounds plausible if you don’t think about it too hard.

They’ll cite the case or two where paid Democratic canvassers signed up “Mickey Mouse” and “Donald Duck” as evidence of voter fraud. But of course that’s only voter fraud if Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck show up to vote, which is of course extremely unlikely. Otherwise, it’s just ordinary fraud, with the canvassers defrauding the Democrats who paid them, not the electoral system.

Meanwhile, my boyfriend Bill has just put Betty Hutton’s very last public performance (1983) up on YouTube.

It’s really something.

David Ehrenstein @ 195

THIS JUST IN!

Kahlid Shiek Muhammed has confessed to killing Chandra Levy, Lacey Peterson and the Lindberg Baby!

And Joe Scarborough’s intern?

Valley Girl @ 190

LJ- I’m not sure where it was, but maybe on one of Brendan’s threads where people were talking about mailing bricks. Please confirm that this is a bad idea.

NEVER NEVER NEVER mail bricks (or bowling balls or lawn mower blades or anything that obviously isn’t what the purpose of the item is for) with the Business Reply envelope/card attached. It only gets thrown away. It does NOT get to its destination. NEVER NEVER NEVER!

And if we catch you trying it, you are subject to mail fraud. You don’t want to go there.

Thank you.

Thanks Brendan and everyone else for the links -

and yeah Rayne – those hijinks with little Ralphy when Corny was Texas AG got me all atwitter

hope y’all forgive me, but I keep thinking of all the things (that we know about)they could investigate – just with DOJ

- Joint Terrorism Task Force(s)

believe these folks were involved in some abuses in NO post Katrina – we know they were spyin’ on Coloradoans -

In 2002, the Justice Department eliminated regulations put in place after the Church Commission hearings in the 1970s, which disclosed evidence of politically motivated spying and obstruction of first amendments rights by the FBI’s COINTELPRO division.

oh yeah, these are the kidz stalking the Quakers !

David Ehrenstein @ 195

THIS JUST IN!

Kahlid Shiek Muhammed has confessed to killing Chandra Levy, Lacey Peterson and the Lindberg Baby!

Didn’t he also say he was the father of Anna Nicole Smith’s baby? *g*

Got this from a friend of mine:

KSM “exaggerated” role, experts say

Well, NO DUH.

I think it a huge mistake to be so dismissive regarding the role of KSM in al-Qaeda as he describes it in his so called confession.

It is possible he was fully or partially involved in all these realized and planned terror actions, as KSM was not an actor, he was a planner. His role is similar to Karl Rove’s when Moore and Slatter describe Rove as the “Architect” — Rove doesn’t personally do all the political actions credited to him — he just plans them, serves as a consultant, finds the necessary resources. KSM’s al-Qaeda job was similar. He was one of the few major league leaders who had actually lived for a fairly lengthy period in the US — in North Carolina, where he spent 4 1/2 years in college. He is an engineer — a technician. His self image has a great deal to do with his technical competence. His role was to technically review operations, advise on how various al-Qaeda members could penetrate various levels of security — not be suspicious and all, and succeed because the plans were well prepared and resourced. KSM was anything but an Islamist, but part of his family is Palestinian living as the underclass in Kuwait, and the other part from Baluchistan, a marginal part of Pakistan. I think avoiding trying to comprehend and do an analysis is a mistake. These characters are quite real. This doesn’t require us to buy into the Bushco Hype — but at the same time we should not be dismissive. And there are potentially a lot more like him waiting in the wings.

Rayne @ 179

Cozumel @ 164

Cornyn should be VERY worried, probably getting hysterical. Apt use of the word “appearance”, too; it “appears” we may get to the bottom of some seriously illegal behavior, and Cornyn may have some ’splainin’ to do.

Him and his buddy Ralph Reed both.

Rayne, Please explicky.

Phoenix Woman -

does that mean we aren’t going to see pics of him leaving the grassy knoll ?

LJ- thanks for restating that. I have bookmarked your comment to quote the next time the comment/ idea comes up. Mods might note this too. :)

Uh… Raven… Those kind of bricks usually aren’t mailed the way regular bricks are. But we’ve been known to have those cause their senders to land in federal court, rather than local court.

Thanks VG. I still have problems from the shoulder that got injured from trying to lift a bucket of what was supposed to be mail, and was filled with bricks instead (and some rusted lawn mower blades, too–wtf????).

I curse that person, every day of my life.

LJ/Aquaria @ 208

Uh… Raven… Those kind of bricks usually aren’t mailed the way regular bricks are. But we’ve been known to have those cause their senders to land in federal court, rather than local court.

Yea, I was a mail handler at an SCF wayyyyy back in the early 70’s. Best thing that ever happened to me when they caught a little scrape I had in the Army that I left off my application and they fired me for “failure to report deregatory action”! Some of my other Nam Vet buddies have just now retired. . .I would have never made it.

Yikes… Surely I’m not the only person hanging around here?

Sara 204:

“His role is similar to Karl Rove’s when Moore and Slatter describe Rove as the “Architect” — Rove doesn’t personally do all the political actions credited to him — he just plans them, serves as a consultant, finds the necessary resources.”

Correct me if I “mis-speak, but it was George W. Bush that described Rove as the “Architect” in 2004.

LJ/Aquaria @ 209

Thanks VG. I still have problems from the shoulder that got injured from trying to lift a bucket of what was supposed to be mail, and was filled with bricks instead (and some rusted lawn mower blades, too–wtf????).

I curse that person, every day of my life.

We were the PO for the Columbia Record club returns. . .talk about heavy! That and those #2 bags of National Geographics.

LJ/Aquaria @ 208

Yikes… Surely I’m not the only person hanging around here?

No, but I for one am fading fast. Big day tomorrow with St. Henry’s hearing. Gotta get some good sleep.

Time to check out. Night all.

Sara @
204

I think it a huge mistake to be so dismissive regarding the role of KSM in al-Qaeda as he describes it in his so called confession….
we should not be dismissive. And there are potentially a lot more like him waiting in the wings.

Sara, what is objectionable is it’s old news, being trotted out as a breaking story. KSM confessed last year. And earlier this year too, IIRC. And gee, how convenient: the “story” “breaks” just as the Bush Justice Department collapses.
that’s the point.

“….and was her (Miers’) idea alone.”
Y’know, I’m amazed anyone shows up to the WH Press Corps briefings anymore.
To state a lie with such conspicuous confidence simply makes a mockery of the whole WH Press concept, the lack of credit to everyone’s intelligence, the phony overtures to executive integrity, the almost symbiotic orgy of deceit, etc. I mean, it’s laughable. It’s a sock-puppet show courtesy the Ministry of Truth.

Integrity is ultimately a self-policing quality. If Snowflake truly believed he had any, ANY at all, he would’ve quit years ago. At this point however, it’s obvious to himself and everyone else in the room he’s just there for the paycheck.
So they should all just drop the agonizing pretense. Just fax all the talking point lies directly to the WH Press Corps to get refuted, save the gas and utilities involved, and spin the move as an eco-friendly gesture by ChimpCo. THAT I’d believe.

raven @ 210

LJ/Aquaria @ 208

Uh… Raven… Those kind of bricks usually aren’t mailed the way regular bricks are. But we’ve been known to have those cause their senders to land in federal court, rather than local court.

Yea, I was a mail handler at an SCF wayyyyy back in the early 70’s. Best thing that ever happened to me when they caught a little scrape I had in the Army that I left off my application and they fired me for “failure to report deregatory action”! Some of my other Nam Vet buddies have just now retired. . .I would have never made it.

Hey, that’s a pretty cushy job these days. Imagine getting to drive around on a little cart all day and tow stuff around. Lot easier than my job, that’s for sure.

Terry Olson,

A U.S. Senate probe into Abramoff’s Indian gambling activities has documented that Abramoff hired Reed in 2001 to:

* Kill a 2001 Texas bill (HB 514) that sought to keep the El Paso-based Tigua tribe’s Speaking Rock Casino open; and
* Ensure that then-Attorney General John Cornyn shut down Speaking Rock (in part by generating support for such a policy).

The ultimate source of Reed’s multimillion-dollar fees for this lobby work appears to be a casino operated by the Coushatta Tribe of Louisiana, which wanted to eliminate competition from Speaking Rock and a small Alabama Coushatta casino in East Texas. The Louisiana tribe hired Abramoff and Scanlon in April 2001, ultimately paying them $32 million.

As soon as Cornyn shut down Speaking Rock in February 2002, team Abramoff pulled off an extraordinary double play. Playing on their close ties to indicted former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (who once had employed Scanlon as a press secretary), the same lobbyists who had worked behind the scenes to shutter Speaking Rock sold themselves to the Tigua tribe as the lobbyists who could press Congress to reopen that casino.

The TX AG, did nothing about Mr. Reed not being licensed to lobby in TX – among other things

Dahlia Lithwick, always a good read, reminds us of what could have been a horrifying situation.

LJ/Aquaria @ 217

raven @ 210

LJ/Aquaria @ 208

Uh… Raven… Those kind of bricks usually aren’t mailed the way regular bricks are. But we’ve been known to have those cause their senders to land in federal court, rather than local court.

Yea, I was a mail handler at an SCF wayyyyy back in the early 70’s. Best thing that ever happened to me when they caught a little scrape I had in the Army that I left off my application and they fired me for “failure to report deregatory action”! Some of my other Nam Vet buddies have just now retired. . .I would have never made it.

Hey, that’s a pretty cushy job these days. Imagine getting to drive around on a little cart all day and tow stuff around. Lot easier than my job, that’s for sure.

All we did was unload trucks, 7 days straight with one day off and 10 hr shifts.

egregious @ 100

Er what is OCR.

OCR is optical character recognition, that’s when you turn a PDF, a Giff or Tiff into a text file, which can be cut and pasted more easily than those image files…

Good night Rev. Deb – sweet dreams!

“If the president is damaged politically by some of the things that are going on, keeping his friend in as attorney general isn’t the right decision,” said Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif.

Sen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla., the Republican Party’s national chairman, said Bush might have to ask Gonzales to step down “at some point.”

http://www.realcities.com/mld/…..912194.htm

raven @ 213

We were the PO for the Columbia Record club returns. . .talk about heavy! That and those #2 bags of National Geographics.

Oh ugh. I suppose we’d better not tell people how miraculous it is that every single album didn’t get shattered. ;)

Leahy’s executive meeting wherein the issue of subpoenas comes up is now on cspan1.

Cozumel @ 223

Sen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla., the Republican Party’s national chairman, said Bush might have to ask Gonzales to step down “at some point.”

http://www.realcities.com/mld/…..912194.htm

And we’re up to four.

Oh, oh.

They’ve got the goods on Dean David Broderella.

“Let me disclose my own bias in this matter. I like Karl Rove. In the days when he was operating from Austin, we had many long and rewarding conversations. I have eaten quail at his table and admired the splendid Hill Country landscape from the porch of the historic cabin Karl and his wife Darby found miles away and had carted to its present site on their land.

In the spring of 1996, when Tom Mann of the Brookings Institution and I were assembling a cast of American politicians to address a group of 40 emerging political leaders from Western Europe, the former Soviet bloc, Asia and Africa, I suggested we invite Karl Rove to be one of the instructors.”

If Rove is Bush’s brain, is Broder Bush’s tool?

-GSD

LJ/Aquaria @ 224

raven @ 213

We were the PO for the Columbia Record club returns. . .talk about heavy! That and those #2 bags of National Geographics.

Oh ugh. I suppose we’d better not tell people how miraculous it is that every single album didn’t get shattered. ;)

Yep, in those big ass bins! Well, I gotta hit it. It’s late in Georgia!

Peas ya’ll!

angie @ 225

Leahy’s executive meeting wherein the issue of subpoenas comes up is now on cspan1.

THANKS Angie – I was afraid I might miss this!

Cozumel @ 222

“If the president is damaged politically by some of the things that are going on, keeping his friend in as attorney general isn’t the right decision,” said Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif.

Sen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla., the Republican Party’s national chairman, said Bush might have to ask Gonzales to step down “at some point.”

http://www.realcities.com/mld/…..912194.htm

Not that I ever put any stock in anything Rohrabacher says, but his statement about Gonzales isn’t as big a deal as it might seem on the surface because he’s one of the guys going apeshit about those two border guards going to jail and he blames Bush and AG for it.

punaise @ 144

Blue Dido @ 137

Punaise@128: Kresge & Crown are fine, but locked in the tall tall trees. The view from Cowell is spectacular, and the faculty there are outstanding. (I have even taught there myself, a while back, and remain friends with some of the faculty.) The whole town is really the best place on earth (can you tell that I grew up there, too?), and you’ll always have a great time visiting Junior.

good input. Santa Cruz is a great place – I grew up just over the hill in the corner of the cats, so it’s familiar territory.

I go there every summer – what a terrific place!

Back on a related topic – great post, Brendan. BTW, everyone should note that the Columbia Journalism Review has given kudos to TPM specifically and the blogosphere in general for being on top of the US Attorney firings scandal while the MSM scoffed. Check this out:
Columbia Journalism Review: TPM beats the press

It’s great to see that one of the most respected journalism magazines gives the blogosphere credit where it is truly due. They are acknowledging the power of regular people like us to get to the bottom of the news.

you’re welcome, newspaperbrat.

What is it with this bunch and quail anyway, GSD?

TRex in 15 minutes folks…
From the T to the R to the E to the muthafuckin X
Get ready for TRex!
he got the beats for ya feets and it’s schweeeeet….

oh, and I’m listening to Jimmy Martin right now.

Terry Olson @ 205

See Jack Abramoff Indian Lobbying Scandal — particularly the section “Texas Menace”. Cornyn helped put the squeeze on the Indians for money; Ralphie would campaign against the Indians’ gaming as a fundie, Cornyn would do the shake down, whil Abramoff represented the tribes as a lobbyist to protect their gaming. Of course, Cornyn denies everything…

raven @ 220

All we did was unload trucks, 7 days straight with one day off and 10 hr shifts.

Pre union days? Or just after they got the union going?

These days, it’s a lot different, at least here. Most of the MHs don’t work a lot of OT/days off unless they request it, and they have regular days off (two).

Money quote:

I have never known a criminal — either terrorist or otherwise — that didn’t exaggerate,” said Michigan Rep. Mike Rogers, a former FBI agent and the top Republican on the terrorism panel of the House Intelligence Committee.

Don’t you just love it when Republicans project.

Dover Bitch @ 230

Cozumel @ 222

“If the president is damaged politically by some of the things that are going on, keeping his friend in as attorney general isn’t the right decision,” said Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif.

Sen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla., the Republican Party’s national chairman, said Bush might have to ask Gonzales to step down “at some point.”

http://www.realcities.com/mld/…..912194.htm

Not that I ever put any stock in anything Rohrabacher says, but his statement about Gonzales isn’t as big a deal as it might seem on the surface because he’s one of the guys going apeshit about those two border guards going to jail and he blames Bush and AG for it.

His reasons don’t matter in this matter. His lack of confidence goes towards the growing mood that Gonzo is Gonzo……

Look for more tomorrow.

-GSD

Dover Bitch @ 219

Dahlia Lithwick, always a good read, reminds us of what could have been a horrifying situation.

707!

GSD @ 227

Oh, oh.

They’ve got the goods on Dean David Broderella.

“Let me disclose my own bias in this matter. I like Karl Rove. In the days when he was operating from Austin, we had many long and rewarding conversations. I have eaten quail at his table and admired the splendid Hill Country landscape from the porch of the historic cabin Karl and his wife Darby found miles away and had carted to its present site on their land.

In the spring of 1996, when Tom Mann of the Brookings Institution and I were assembling a cast of American politicians to address a group of 40 emerging political leaders from Western Europe, the former Soviet bloc, Asia and Africa, I suggested we invite Karl Rove to be one of the instructors.”

If Rove is Bush’s brain, is Broder Bush’s tool?

-GSD

It would be nice to have Broder publicly eat some crow…

What’s depressing about the excerpt is that I remember when Brookings was liberal. Now they’re consorting with the likes of Rove. How low they’ve fallen.

Banana Slugs! Yeah for punaise, jr.

LandOfTheFree @ 231

punaise @ 144

Blue Dido @ 137

Punaise@128: Kresge & Crown are fine, but locked in the tall tall trees. The view from Cowell is spectacular, and the faculty there are outstanding. (I have even taught there myself, a while back, and remain friends with some of the faculty.) The whole town is really the best place on earth (can you tell that I grew up there, too?), and you’ll always have a great time visiting Junior.

good input. Santa Cruz is a great place – I grew up just over the hill in the corner of the cats, so it’s familiar territory.

I go there every summer – what a terrific place!

Back on a related topic – great post, Brendan. BTW, everyone should note that the Columbia Journalism Review has given kudos to TPM specifically and the blogosphere in general for being on top of the US Attorney firings scandal while the MSM scoffed. Check this out:
Columbia Journalism Review: TPM beats the press

It’s great to see that one of the most respected journalism magazines gives the blogosphere credit where it is truly due. They are acknowledging the power of regular people like us to get to the bottom of the news.

And well deserved if you ask me. Carney at Time and Sullvan both issued mea culpas for not taking the story seriously enough, both citing Josh. Talking Points Memo was the first blog I ever read, actually.

And then of course, FDL has gotten kudos from the Times for the Libby coverage. We’re making a difference.

ETA: …and by we I mean “bloggers in general”, natch.

Something bugged me enough about comment # 14 to pursue this, although my earlier comment to it has disappeared (or can’t find it anymore). There is no German “Express” newspaper.

There is, howsoever, a critical French paper called “L’Express” (in existence since decades).

They say: “He (Khalid) presents himself as Superman, Super-Hero, Super-terrorist”, according to M. Alani, specialist of the islamic Al quaeda Gulf Research Center in Dubai. “This is a wish list, and probably only his imaginations” he adds, referring to all those attack plans. “For most analysts, Mohamed (Khalid) has exaggerated his role in order to obtain the status of a hero amongst the supporters of Al Quaeda. He could also seek to prove other prisonners innocent.”

Slimy Specter slithering all over the place…

advises caution, sensitivity, blah.

(thank goodness for Nov — and that he lost the chairmanship)

okay, I am tin foil hatted enough to believe both Cornyn and Martinez are coming straight outta WH – in attempts to shut it all down once Abu resigns it also takes Chimpigula off the loyalty hook – “see Al, now I got Cornyn in my face” . . .

Oh my.

This is OT — for fans of Graham Greene.

Right now TCM is showing a 1955 version of “The End of the Affair” (one of my favorite of Greene’s many novels, all of which I love) with Deborah Kerr.

I didn’t even know there was a contemporary film version, only saw the 1999 version with Julianne Moore.

It’s actually pretty good. Deborah Kerr is great.

See y’all later.

But thanks for the great discussion in this thread!

Dean Broderlla dropped this stinker in the bowl back in 2004:

“Bush won, but he will have to work within the system for whatever he gets. Checks and balances are still there. The nation does not face “another dark age,” unless you consider politics with all its tradeoffs and bargaining a black art.”

Dave, is it alcohol or drugs?

-GSD

Brendan – if you are still here –

you have seen reports of just what Specter did with the “unauthorized staffer” who slipped the no senate confirmation language in to rev. Pat. Act , yes ?

angie @
232

you’re welcome, newspaperbrat.

What is it with this bunch and quail anyway, GSD?

Angie, with their horrible track record, you’d think crow would be on their menues.

-GSD

The term “The Architect” apparently goes back to Bush’s Texas Days, and originates with Moore and Slater (Bush’s Brain) — Bush adopted it post election 2004, but it is not an original with Bush.

Yea — I know that the KSM stuff has been around in various reports for a couple of years, and today’s transcripts from the Pentagon were nothing really new. The hearing was apparently last Saturday however, so this particular form is new. I suspect what bothers me is no one is asking for independent confirmation of the claims. Besides grilling KSM — what have they done to independently source this stuff?

What is it with this bunch and quail anyway, GSD?

I think one of ‘em heared from someone who heared from kin who read it in a book somewhere that fancy rich folks eat that and some other bird under glass.

Down in EPU territory, but it has to be said. Bush has lost the power to help or punish people in his power. That’s why he’s toast. Given that he’s a lame duck it’s surprising his support lasted as long as it did. If I was a thug, I’d be putting room between myself and him as fast as possible. Watch and learn.

me go trex

cbl @ 247

Brendan – if you are still here –

you have seen reports of just what Specter did with the “unauthorized staffer” who slipped the no senate confirmation language in to rev. Pat. Act , yes ?

you mean tolman? he became USA for Utah. or was there another?

GSD @ 248

angie @
232

you’re welcome, newspaperbrat.

What is it with this bunch and quail anyway, GSD?

Angie, with their horrible track record, you’d think crow would be on their menues.

-GSD

Vultures do eat carrion and dead crow would be pretty tasty to them.

I just find it so icky that quail keep reappearing. It is a game bird and these ghouls who have never worn a uniform and send others off to war just looove to shoot and eat them.

cbl at 247: catch me in Trex’s thread.

what have they done to independently source this stuff?

they ran it by Curveball

Trex no up yet.

Brendan -
with all the sludge coming forth, just wanted to make sure the good senator’s constituents were aware :)

cbl@218
Rayne@234

Thanks, I knew the basics, but not the hot details.

Brendan, your blog reads like a diary,I feel your pain,taking your son back to his mom after he visits. They do grow up soo fast.

Anyway, I want to hear the little f*cking cherub squeal like the pig that he is, of course I’m talking about Rove. How he escaped endictment on the Plame matter is beyond me.

Valley Girl @ 257

Trex no up yet.

His pens all probably ran out of ink!

Now Specter continues to defend Domenici and Wilson.

AZ- maybe he is ‘inking.

cbl @ 258

Brendan -
with all the sludge coming forth, just wanted to make sure the good senator’s constituents were aware :)

cbl, could you elaborate? (enquiring minds… you know….)

mulligatawny @ 242

Something bugged me enough about comment # 14 to pursue this, although my earlier comment to it has disappeared (or can’t find it anymore). There is no German “Express” newspaper.

There is, howsoever, a critical French paper called “L’Express” (in existence since decades).

They say: “He (Khalid) presents himself as Superman, Super-Hero, Super-terrorist”, according to M. Alani, specialist of the islamic Al quaeda Gulf Research Center in Dubai. “This is a wish list, and probably only his imaginations” he adds, referring to all those attack plans. “For most analysts, Mohamed (Khalid) has exaggerated his role in order to obtain the status of a hero amongst the supporters of Al Quaeda. He could also seek to prove other prisonners innocent.”

Yes, there is an EXPRESS newspaper in German, out of Duesseldorf. It is an immitation of the more popular BILD. Both are tabloid rags, complete with Page 3 girls on page 1.

punaise @

good input. Santa Cruz is a great place – I grew up just over the hill in the corner of the cats, so it’s familiar territory.

Ah, grew up with side of wood, homey!

TRex is upstairs rummaging around in someone’s drawers

kirk ,

you have to remember Specter playing his usual clueless shit about the ‘no USA’s confirmation by Senate language’ inserted in to the rev. Pat. Act. He made the usual bs claims about not knowing about it and it came from some “unauthorized staffer”

well the staffer was Toleman. Kyle Sampson wanted USA Utah job, WH wanted him to have it. Specter and Hatch pushed for Toleman to get the job and he did

quid pro quo

and of course shreds Arlen’s clueless act

cbl @
247

Brendan – if you are still here –

you have seen reports of just what Specter did with the “unauthorized staffer” who slipped the no senate confirmation language in to rev. Pat. Act , yes ?

What? Dang, I can’t keep up!

cbl @ 268

kirk ,

you have to remember Specter playing his usual clueless shit about the ‘no USA’s confirmation by Senate language’ inserted in to the rev. Pat. Act. He made the usual bs claims about not knowing about it and it came from some “unauthorized staffer”

well the staffer was Toleman. Kyle Sampson wanted USA Utah job, WH wanted him to have it. Specter and Hatch pushed for Toleman to get the job and he did

quid pro quo

and of course shreds Arlen’s clueless act

thanks, cbl

my contempt for arlen specter knows no bounds

You’re gonna love this about Rove…

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0418-26.htm

Sorry if someone has already posted it.

Blue Dido @
125

Punaise, a hangover from previous thread: punaise jr. will absolutely love UC Santa Cruz. My alma mater! Those were very happy days. Rosalind said Cowell College, and she is right. Congratulations.

my alma mater too. 1973-1975 great school, great town.

&ilbo – Ah, grew up with side of wood, homey!

did you drive a La Honda to Tall Tree?

Educated Plaintiff @ 272

Blue Dido @
125

Punaise, a hangover from previous thread: punaise jr. will absolutely love UC Santa Cruz. My alma mater! Those were very happy days. Rosalind said Cowell College, and she is right. Congratulations.

my alma mater too. 1973-1975 great school, great town.

wow – you must have been in of the first classes. my oldest bro was Kresge ‘76.

Oklahoma kiddo @
186

punaise @ 144

Blue Dido @ 137

Punaise@128: Kresge & Crown are fine, but locked in the tall tall trees. The view from Cowell is spectacular, and the faculty there are outstanding. (I have even taught there myself, a while back, and remain friends with some of the faculty.) The whole town is really the best place on earth (can you tell that I grew up there, too?), and you’ll always have a great time visiting Junior.

good input. Santa Cruz is a great place – I grew up just over the hill in the corner of the cats, so it’s familiar territory.

Do you recall the indoor heated swimming pool with the fountain (on the boardwalk)? And the roller coaster? And the Coconut Grove dance hall?

yes

EP @ 272, punaise @ 274, OK kiddo @ 186,

it’s all very different there now, isn’t it? (When my family first moved to SC, it was a sleepy Republican retirement town.) I worked at the Boardwalk when I was a teenager, but the indoor pool was closed down by then. The Coconut Grove was still in full groove. EP, I was in high school when you were at UCSC.

A fabulous school and beautiful town. I’m almost envious of punaise jr.

These asshats will be in continuous Congressional hearings until 2011 just to help explain how screwed up everything is. C-Span should start a new channel just for them.

powwow500 @
271

You’re gonna love this about Rove…

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0418-26.htm

Sorry if someone has already posted it.

I heard on NPR that when Rove was a kid he got beaten up by a girl. Seriously.

Blue Dido @ 276

EP @ 272, punaise @ 274, OK kiddo @ 186,

it’s all very different there now, isn’t it? (When my family first moved to SC, it was a sleepy Republican retirement town.) I worked at the Boardwalk when I was a teenager, but the indoor pool was closed down by then. The Coconut Grove was still in full groove. EP, I was in high school when you were at UCSC.

A fabulous school and beautiful town. I’m almost envious of punaise jr.

silicon valley is what changed sc.

when i was there in the seventies wozniak & jobs were on the other side of the hill inventing apple. 15 yrs later the techies in the valley realized why stay in sj when sc was only a 45 min commute away. their big salaries shot up the housing market – totally chged the old hippie/surfer/student/science-geek/dancer/musician vibe of the old sc. :(

i still love the place though & try to get there every few years

EP- IIRC, UCSC was the #1 choice in the UC system at that time. Had to have stellar GPA and stellar SAT to get admission. I was not an undergrad there, did Ph.D. there.

Where’s Karl? Bring him out. What rock is he hiding under?

From Americablog LOL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDaRFf7Cd6M

Kaaaaarrrrl…Come ouuuuut…we’ve got subpoenas…

&ilbo @ 266

punaise @

good input. Santa Cruz is a great place – I grew up just over the hill in the corner of the cats, so it’s familiar territory.

Ah, grew up with side of wood, homey!

Heh heh, I hang in the view of the mountains, but can’t seem to see any…

Could it be the real reason for Harriet Miers’ resignation was the knowledge she was being set-up as the fall-gal for the Rove/Bush malfeasance in the attorney firings.

Karl Rove is protected by Executive Privilege and need not say anything to any Congress person. The firings of the US Attorneys were legal even if they were done for purely political and partisan reasons. I fail to see the “there” there.

LibertyLee @ 284

Karl Rove is protected by Executive Privilege and need not say anything to any Congress person. The firings of the US Attorneys were legal even if they were done for purely political and partisan reasons. I fail to see the “there” there.

your post is so wrong it’s hard to begin

there can be no firing of an attorney to prevent investigation or for the purpose of instigating investigation

that’s called obstruction of justice and there is nothing legal about it

carl rove is not protected by executive privilege, that’s the president that gets that protection not his subordinates…where do these people come up with this stuff?

in case you didn’t know it, carl is not the president he’s the president’s aid

there MIGHT be things the president can prevent Carl from saying but even that isn’t the president’s say it’s the courts

rove is NOT protected under any executive prividedge as if he is president

and of course you don’t see any “there there”, why, you are a supporter of this criminal administration and whatever is done at great harm to this country is obviously according to you, a nothing, a “there is no there there”

you are a marionette, repeating the rubbish from your puppeteers as if that rubbish MIGHT have some kind of connection with reality

I would respond to your previous posts as well however a troll is a troll, unconvinced no matter the fact before their very eyes

there are people called “authoritarians”, these are pretty much puppets that will support their authoritarian leaders even while they watch the unmistakable harm being done to these morons, their family’s, their friends, their children, their grandchildren

so for you and your “there is no there there”, only to an authoritarian and their minions

perris @ 285

LibertyLee @ 284

Karl Rove is protected by Executive Privilege and need not say anything to any Congress person. The firings of the US Attorneys were legal even if they were done for purely political and partisan reasons. I fail to see the “there” there.

your post is so wrong it’s hard to figure out where to begin

there can be no firing of an attorney to prevent investigation or for the purpose of instigating investigation

that’s called obstruction of justice and there is nothing legal about it

carl rove is not protected by executive privilege, that’s the president that gets that protection not his subordinates…where do these people come up with this stuff?

in case you didn’t know it, carl is not the president he’s the president’s aid

there MIGHT be things the president can prevent Carl from saying but even that isn’t the president’s say it’s the courts

rove is NOT protected under any executive prividedge as if he is president

and of course you don’t see any “there there”, why, you are a supporter of this criminal administration and whatever is done at great harm to this country is obviously according to you, a nothing, a “there is no there there”

you are a marionette, repeating the rubbish from your puppeteers as if that rubbish MIGHT have some kind of connection with reality

I would respond to each thing you’ve posted however a troll is a troll, unconvinced no matter the fact before their very eyes and I’ve fed too much to this troll already

there are people called “authoritarians”, these are pretty much puppets that will support their authoritarian leaders even while they watch the unmistakable harm being done to these morons, their family’s, their friends, their children, their grandchildren

so for you and your “there is no there there”, only to an authoritarian and their minions