Time for TRUTH and JUSTICE!!!

uh, frist?

IMPEACH!!!!

who’s gonna do the impeaching if the dems are a lost cause too?

Alberto must go! Rove must go! Cheney must go! Impeach Bush!

Even Scarborough: “They’ve been caught in an outright lie.” Well it’s about friggin’ time.

Gonzales and KKKarl must go!

From William James’s Varieties of Religious Experience:

“Secret retributions are always restoring the level, when disturbed, of the divine justice. It is impossible to tilt the beam. All the tyrants and proprietors and monopolists of the world in vain set their shoulders to heave the bar. Settles forever more the ponderous equator to its line, and man and mote, and star and sun, must range to it, or be pulverized by the recoil.”

Torture Boy gets taken out with the rest of the trash tomorrow — Garbage Day.

“Voluntarily” stepping down so as to “not be a distraction.”

???
.

I’m at somegirl’s place, joint chiefs meeting, on my way!

impeach maine

If you’re from Maine, please download this form, print it out, collect signatures, and send it to address along bottom.

ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTAAAAACCCKKK!

And if what has already transpired this week wasn’t enough to sour ChimpCo on their prospects, Mrs. Wilson will have a few things to say tomorrow…

they’re not going to impeach anyone. they can’t even agree on Iraq legislation - the issue that got them the majority. they are lily-livered weenies.

From a German Newspaper called Express
Khalid Sheich Mohammed
HERE HE ATTACKED * The attack on the world trade center in New York 2001 * the assassinations of vacationers and an Israelian airplane in 2001 in Kenia * the attempt of an attack of shoe-bomber Reid. * HERE HE WANTED TO KILL * Attax on Big Ben, Canary Wharf and airport Heathrow in London, against the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) and other financial institutions as well as the Panama channel * A planned “second wave” of airplane attacks against US-skyscrapers such as the library tower in LA, the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Plaza Bank in Seattle and the Empire State Building in New York * An attack attempt against the former pope John Paul the 2nd at his visit of the Philippines * attax against the president of Pakistan Musharraf, against the former US-presidents Carter and Clinton * Plans for attax against US nuclear plants * against bridges in New York * against NATO-HQ in Belgium * Preperations of attax in Thailand, Israel, Turkey * The planned destruction of US and Israelian embassies in Asia and Australia, furthermore against US military ships and oiltankers on the oceans * attax against the oil firm of former us secretary of state H. Kissinger

Great post!

In those emails, who is referred to as “judge”? Gonzo?

While we are all tuned into the lovely, talented, and deadly Mrs. Plame-Wilson’s testimony tomorrow, AbuG will slip a note over the transom of the Oval: bye!

Khalid Shaikh Mohammed was the Forrest Gump of Islamic Terrorists. I guess that’s why they say that when you’re tortured, you’ll admit to anything.

Oh Brendan! Someone else who remembers the Ford Pinto fiasco! I swore back then that I would never buy a Ford because of their callous disregard for human life (anyone who does not know what this refers to go to http://www.fordpinto.com/blowup.htm or http://www.wfu.edu/~palmitar/L.....pinto.html
or many of the other sites that have the info. The short story is it was cheaper to pay out when people died than to pay for a recall.

Also, being a former Rhode Islander, do you know about the Rocky Point Movie? To be released in September.

It does my heart good to see someone else speaking with certainty about impeachment.

President Nixon Bush.
Now More Than Ever.

ccmask @ 15

In those emails, who is referred to as “judge”? Gonzo?

Believe it or not, Abu was a TX supreme court judge!!!! Then again, so was Cornyn.

No further comment

That soup looks so delicious, Brendan.

Andrew Cohen (WaPo) on the “Empty Suit AG“.

Peas in a pod, GeeW and AbuGonzo.
.

ohh, candy;

Schumer told reporters, “I know, from other sources, that there is an active and avid discussion in the White House whether [Gonzales] should stay or not,” adding that “the odds are very high that he will no longer be the attorney general.”

tee hee

picked that off of think progress

“It’s Soooouuuuppp!!!!”

I never knew that Rev! Gonzo always looked like a used car salesman to me.

ccmask @ 21

That soup looks so delicious, Brendan.

I’ve found the soup taste much richer if you substitute half a can of milk for half of the water… I’m just sayin’.

ccmask @ 25

I never knew that Rev! Gonzo always looked like a used car salesman to me.

Weak as water.

EPU’d

Hunter at it again on Kos. Last 2 graphs:

But the primary targets of investigation will likely center around the figures in what Fineman above dubbed the “Austin Gang” — Bush’s innermost circle of Texas-based political operatives, the most sanctified priests of Bush’s rise to the Presidency and the architects of the cronyistic governmental numbness and incompetence that has defined the Bush administration from Iraq to Katrina.

It’s anyone’s guess how explosive these hearings are going to be, but I’m betting on dynamite-in-a-gopher-hole levels of destruction. And after all the similar scandals that Alberto “Abu Ghraib” Gonzales has been at the core of, it’s about damn time.

Impeachment would not be wise for the professional politicians. They need to have the Repugs in office to run against them.

It’s not about doing the right thing, it’s about keeping themselves at the feeding trough, and to hell with the will of the people.

I’m glad to see the oversight, and all that comes with it. I just doubt that impeachment will happen. I hope that I wrong.

I don’t know why the Democrats think impeachment would make them look bad. Think of all the bad stuff that would come up with a proper investigation.

I wonder if that flavor comes in the microwave version?

I do believe there just be may some method to their madness, at long last. I note that the new Democratic members of the Senate who were not in Congress in 2002 apparently did not speak about the latest Iraq resolution. But those Senators who did speak, were using some of the same words we might see from many bloggers. Credit where it is due, especially since this is avowedly not the end of the story on the topic of Iraq in the Senate. More to come from the leadership and the caucus, we are being told.

Therefore I want to highlight some excerpts from the March 14 speeches on the Senate floor about Majority Leader Reid’s binding and principled Joint Resolution 9 on Iraq, which went down to defeat on 3/15, despite the support of every voting Democrat except Mark Pryor of Arkansas and Ben Nelson of Nebraska [who both voted, along with every Republican except Gordon Smith of Oregon, for continued violence in Iraq and to ignore their own Constitutional authority as members of our Legislative Branch of government]:

Senator Joe Biden of Delaware 3/14:

So if one wants to be literal about it, his mission no longer has the force of law. Everyone I have spoken with, including from the Biden-Gelb plan straight through to the Iraq Study Group, says: Look, use our troops wisely; use them wisely. What are their missions? We have the right and obligation constitutionally, and we should have the courage constitutionally, to exercise our responsibility to say: Why are our troops there?

Mr. President, I am tired of hearing about courage. The only courage being evidenced in this country is by those folks out on the battlefields getting shot at, getting killed. Why are they there?

Senator Carl Levin of Michigan 3/14:

I wish to repeat this because there are a number of Members of this body and there are a number of members of the administration who have attacked this debate as somehow or another undermining our troops. It is quite the opposite. We support our troops when we give them our best thinking as to how to succeed in Iraq. It is good for our troops to have a debate in this democracy about whether a course is failing or succeeding and, if it is not succeeding, to offer our best thoughts as to how to make it succeed.

Our troops deserve everything we can give them. They haven’t gotten it. They deserve the best equipment. They didn’t get it. They deserve treatment when they come to our hospitals. They didn’t get it. They deserve our best thinking, our honest thoughts as to how we can succeed in Iraq, how can we change course from a failing course to one which succeeds.

Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island 3/14:

We have the authority constitutionally to adopt policies, to shape what the President does, and that is the essence of this resolution.

Just today, the New York Times’ Walter Dellinger and Christopher Schroeder wrote an op-ed piece which bears on this point. They say the Supreme Court has long recognized Congress’s authority to set limits on the President’s military power, as in 1799, when it accepted Congress’s power to authorize the seizure of ships going to but not coming from French ports. Talk about micromanagement; that is micromanagement.

This policy makes sense and it is well within not only the obligation of this Congress but the constitutional power of this Congress.

Senator Chuck Schumer of New York 3/14:

I know my colleagues on the other side are in an uncomfortable position. They are torn between the policy of our President, their party leader, and what their constituencies want. By the way, the constituencies across America want this. I have seen the polling data. It is not just in places such as Rhode Island, New York, and Pennsylvania where the people are asking for a real change in strategy; it is also in places such as Kentucky, North Carolina, and Mississippi. It is throughout America. They are not doing it because they don’t support the troops or for some nefarious reason. They are doing it for a reason that is as plain as the noses on our faces: what we are doing now is not working–whether it be with 140,000 or 150,000, 160,000, or 200,000 troops.

So we are here in the hallowed tradition of our Constitution to debate what we are doing in foreign policy and war policy and whether it is right. We will stand together on this side of the aisle and state that, as patriots who support our troops, we desperately need a change in strategy and in mission. We will bring up this issue on the floor of the Senate again and again and again, until our colleagues on the other side join us, until our colleagues on the other side understand that the wishes of their constituencies are for a change in strategy, until our colleagues on the other side have the courage to tell the President that on this issue he simply is wrong. That is part of the hallowed tradition of this country. We are proud to do what we are doing.

Mr. President, I hope and pray that our colleagues on the other side of the aisle will allow this debate to go forward, that they will put forward their ideas, and we will put forward ours. Debate it we will and debate it we must. I hope and pray that debate starts to yield the change in strategy that our troops in Iraq, our people in America, the Iraqi people, and the people of the world so desperately need.

Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois 3/14:

Mr. President, the question is: What is our duty? We know what the duty of our soldiers will be when they raise their hand and take an oath to serve our country. They agree to risk their lives for America. They follow orders. They follow the lead of their commanders. They march into battle. Some come home and some do not. But what is the duty of the Congress? What is our responsibility when it comes to war?

So the obvious question is: By what authority is America still there? By what authority do 150,000 Americans now risk their lives while we stand in the safety of this Chamber?

This resolution seeks to define our mission today in realistic terms. If the President had come to Congress 4 years ago and said, I want the authority to send American troops into the middle of a civil war in Iraq, a war that has been brewing for 14 centuries between warring Islamic factions; I want American soldiers on the street risking their lives every day until the Iraqis resolve this age-old dispute, do you think we would have approved that authorization of the use of American force? Of course not. It would have been pure folly.

For those who argue that we are micromanaging the war, I guess my question for them is, isn’t it time that somebody managed this war?

continued…

And that is why, at the end of the day, this Administration will be impeached and removed from office.

ohhh…candy!

This one’s really good. Rawstory headline: New York Times: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s expansive testimony may complicate prosecution of other terror suspects

Hahahahahaha.

KSM confessed to all those crimes so U.S. will have trouble prosecuting others for them. A tad too clever those CIA & Pentagon sorts.

karen allen @ 5

Alberto must go! Rove must go! Cheney must go! Impeach Bush!

A road map to peace. ;0)

Georgesimian @ 30

I don’t know why the Democrats think impeachment would make them look bad. Think of all the bad stuff that would come up with a proper investigation.

We’ll all be sitting around the campfire at The Lake twenty years from now!

upyernoz @
4

who’s gonna do the impeaching if the dems are a lost cause too?

Oh when the smell of blood get’s strong enough they’ll get found.

Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin 3/14:

I will support this resolution because it avoids the mistakes of previous proposals to address Iraq. It does not allow the President’s misguided policies to continue. It does not tacitly reauthorize the war. It does not focus solely on the so-called surge. This is binding legislation that would bring to an end our involvement in perhaps the greatest foreign policy mistake in our country’s history.

Some of my colleagues continue to argue that Congress should defer to the Commander in Chief when it comes to Iraq, that we should give him the opportunity to change course in Iraq or that we should allow his escalation plan a chance to succeed. Those arguments ignore our congressional responsibilities.

Congress authorized this war, and it is in our power to bring it to a close. More importantly, we have not just the power but the responsibility to end a war that is draining vital national security resources in pursuit of a goal that cannot be achieved militarily.

Unfortunately, however, some in this body continue to make arguments that undermine the ability of Congress to have a serious discussion about the Iraq war. They fail to recognize that this body has an obligation to address the most pressing issue facing the country today and respond to the overwhelming sentiment of our constituents. They purport to defend the President’s prerogatives and the morale and well-being of our troops, but their rhetoric has the effect of trying to stifle open and honest debate.

While I cannot speak for the President, I am confident our troops, and our constituents, are ready for this debate. They know that in a democracy such as ours, discussion of major foreign policy issues can and should be conducted openly. So I am glad the Senate is beginning such a discussion today, and I will continue pushing this body to finally bring to a close our involvement in a war that has been a disaster on so many fronts.

Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts 3/14:

Before the war, Vice President Cheney said we hadn’t seen all the intelligence he had seen. But after the war, when things were going badly, the President said more than 100 times that we had seen the same intelligence.

On our side of the aisle, we stand with the American people. The voters told us in November to change course and to begin to bring our troops home, and that is what we are going to do.

We stand for our Constitution, in which the Congress speaks for the people in matters of war and peace and can require the President to listen.

We stand with our troops. We, and we alone, are the ones insisting on a policy worthy of their courage and sacrifice.

Senator Chris Dodd of Connecticut 3/14:

Having troops deployed overseas should not prevent us from debating critically important issues relating to the wisdom of staying the failed course the President has charted. In fact, we do a grave disservice to our troops by not having a public debate to shed light on the many questions and concerns that arise from our current involvement in Iraq.

Based on past experience, however, I have no confidence whatsoever that this President will pay any attention to this resolution or this congressional debate. That has been the history of the administration over the past many months. So I say to my colleagues, if you are truly sincere in your support, as I believe you are, for the policies expressed in this legislation, then I think we must be prepared to do far more in the coming days, I hope in the short days, to bring an end to this destructive and futile policy, including the exercise of the congressional powers of the purse. We need to stop financing the administration’s reckless strategy and put critical resources into rebuilding our military. Our troops deserve no less from this Congress.

Senator Dianne Feinstein of California 3/14:

We are breaking our own military in Iraq, even as it becomes increasingly evident that success cannot be achieved militarily.

Just consider these facts. More than 420,000 troops have been deployed at least twice; 420,000 men and women have been deployed twice. More than 50,000 troops have had their tours extended through “stop-loss” orders. Troops are being rushed into the field without proper training and without enough armor. We are leaning more and more heavily on the National Guard. Yet 90 percent of the Guard units in the United States are rated “not ready.”

Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont 3/14:

In the 2006 elections, in my view, the people of Vermont and of this Nation told us they wanted Congress to begin asserting its constitutional authority over this war and that they wanted us to rein in this administration. Most important, they told us they wanted us to begin the process of bringing our troops home as soon as possible. As a Vermont Senator, that is exactly the effort I intend to make.

[Please excuse the length of these comments/excerpts. I thought the topic and the apparent momentum in the Senate deserved the emphasis.] These are a small part of the record, more of which can be found here:

http://thomas.loc.gov/r110/r110.html

I want this guy Rove, even more than I want Cheney.

“so chunky, you could eat it with a fork”

Fleetingly saw on JoeScar a quote from some dem to the effect that we’ve only had subpoena power for 6 weeks and every tree we’ve gone up had a cat in it. Imagine what we’ll find in 6 months!

I like.

There is no mission for the troops in Iraq.

Lady of the Lake @ 18

Oh Brendan! Someone else who remembers the Ford Pinto fiasco! I swore back then that I would never buy a Ford because of their callous disregard for human life (anyone who does not know what this refers to go to http://www.fordpinto.com/blowup.htm or http://www.wfu.edu/~palmitar/L.....pinto.html
or many of the other sites that have the info. The short story is it was cheaper to pay out when people died than to pay for a recall.

Also, being a former Rhode Islander, do you know about the Rocky Point Movie? To be released in September.

“With plastic shield installed…”

Teddy - I think they’re going to try to ride this out. We keep seeing these emails released, contradicting what they are claiming the same day! They don’t have their shit together on this. But I hope you’re right. Dems are gonna get a piece of T/Blossom either way.

eCAHNomics @ 34

This one’s really good. Rawstory headline: New York Times: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s expansive testimony may complicate prosecution of other terror suspects

Hahahahahaha.

KSM confessed to all those crimes so U.S. will have trouble prosecuting others for them. A tad too clever those CIA & Pentagon sorts.

it was NOT the cia he was too clever for, they were AGAINST torture and informed the president in no uncertain terms they get LESS information that is UN reliable, that it wastes resources and time that should be used aggressing more valuable data

THAT BESIDES THE POINT THAT US TORTURING PRISONERS HARMS OUR SOLDIERS

AND we are SUPPOSED to be “winning the hearts and minds” of the Iraqi’s, torturing our prisoners RADICALIZES the Iraqi’s against us, it DEFEATS OUR PURPOSE, and it makes it almost impossible to win

ALL TOLD TO THE ADMINISTRATION BEFORE THEY INSTITUTED THEIR DEPRAVED POLIVY OF TORTURE

it was as if they WANTED to fail, it’s as if the administration was on the same team as bin laden and did everything neccessary have him win

Is there any chance that these investigations may expand to include Bush’s firing of the attorney seeking to prosecute Abramoff in Guam?
Wasn’t Bush directly involved in that?
Please excuse my lack of details, but does anyone remember this?

RevDeb @ 40

Fleetingly saw on JoeScar a quote from some dem to the effect that we’ve only had subpoena power for 6 weeks and every tree we’ve gone up had a cat in it. Imagine what we’ll find in 6 months!

I like.

You are braver than I to watch JoeScar — I can’t stand the way he sez dimm-ocrat!!

For anyone who hasn’t seen it, this is pretty interesting.

Meet Daniel Tammet, a 27 year-old math and memory wizard. He can do things with numbers that will truly amaze you. He is a savant. . . with a difference. Unlike most savants, he shows no obvious mental disability, and most importantly, he can describe his own thought process. Join correspondent Morley Safer as he explores the extraordinary life and mind of Daniel Tammet.

Earlier today, Demetrius and I just watched the clip entitled A Compulsion to Count, and spent a fair amount of time discussing it. Son in Ohio has Asperger’s Syndrome, which is on the autistic spectrum, so some of what that man said sounded familiar. I think the striking thing is that he is able to put his experience into words. People who are more severely autistic often can’t do so, and kids who are mildly autistic or have Asperger’s Syndrome may not have the insight yet.

eCAHNomics @ 34

This one’s really good. Rawstory headline: New York Times: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s expansive testimony may complicate prosecution of other terror suspects

Hahahahahaha.

KSM confessed to all those crimes so U.S. will have trouble prosecuting others for them. A tad too clever those CIA & Pentagon sorts.

BTW, I didn’t hear any MSM mention the convenient timing of the release of this transcript.

Do we know ABC’s source for today’s emails? Was there lots of blue eyeshadow detritus on them?

How about this Judge:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....15080.html

Oh the other impediment to impeachment is DC. Sort of like Dan Quail at this point, impeachment insurance. We need to get tricky dick out first. Imagine him has prez? I know, he has been the last six years already but…

RagingGurrl @ 47

Is there any chance that these investigations may expand to include Bush’s firing of the attorney seeking to prosecute Abramoff in Guam?
Wasn’t Bush directly involved in that?
Please excuse my lack of details, but does anyone remember this?

Yes I remember this and hope it will see the light of day again.

Obstruction
Of
Justice.

TeddySanFran @
51

Do we know ABC’s source for today’s emails? Was there lots of blue eyeshadow detritus on them?

Was there an “I heart George” doodle that was scribbled-out?

-GSD

Georgesimian @ 42

There is no mission for the troops in Iraq.

the troops in Iraq COMPLETED their mission, they deposed sadam, they rendered the Iraqi army useless, they discovered whether or not there were wmd’s

what was left was a diplomatic task, NOT A MILITARY TASK, our soldiers are NOT painters of schools, they are NOT a free police force, THEY ARE NOT POLITICIANS

once again, OUR SOLDIERS PERFORMED THEIR MISSION WITH UNQUALIFIED SUCCESS, however missguided the administration was to task our soldiers with that mission, they were never the less flawless in that taks

THEY COMPLETED THEIR MISSION AND NEED TO BE REWARDED, they need to be brought home the hero’s welcome, in success of their mission

Can anyone tell me the time for Waxman’s hearing tomorrow and if it will be on CSPAN ’cause I can’t hang and will have to Tivo the mofo.

Thanks,
Tim

TeddySanFran @
51

Do we know ABC’s source for today’s emails? Was there lots of blue eyeshadow detritus on them?

I do so hope she checks in soon…

TeddySanFran @ 46

RevDeb @ 40

Fleetingly saw on JoeScar a quote from some dem to the effect that we’ve only had subpoena power for 6 weeks and every tree we’ve gone up had a cat in it. Imagine what we’ll find in 6 months!

I like.

You are braver than I to watch JoeScar — I can’t stand the way he sez dimm-ocrat!!

just caught it during the commercial of something else I was watching. No, I don’t watch as a habit. They keep elevating Pat Buchanan to the status of someone who has a brain and something to say.

RagingGurrl @ 46

Is there any chance that these investigations may expand to include Bush’s firing of the attorney seeking to prosecute Abramoff in Guam?
Wasn’t Bush directly involved in that?
Please excuse my lack of details, but does anyone remember this?

With any luck. And wouldn’t it be nice to see DeLay go to jail on that?

Tim @ 56

Can anyone tell me the time for Waxman’s hearing tomorrow and if it will be on CSPAN ’cause I can’t hang and will have to Tivo the mofo.

Thanks,
Tim

starts at 10 eastern according to the Subcommittee web site.

Well, if you’re JoeScar, PatBuch has to seem pretty smart, all in all.

Never have I seen a more criminal gang so ripe for impeachment.

It’s past time for us to do this thing and to show the world that the American people know that they are criminals and will not tolerate it.

It’s the only way we can survive as a Nation.

And if the repuglicans & some dems want to go on the record as being against impeachment as the steady stream of caca oozes, nay, blasts forth, then let the world see them for what they are.

unpatriotic tools.

Tim– it’s scheduled to be on cspan1 starting at 10 and also streamed on the cmte’s website.

RevDeb @ 57

he sez dimm-ocrat!!

just caught it during the commercial of something else I was watching. No, I don’t watch as a habit. They keep elevating Pat Buchanan to the status of someone who has a brain and something to say.

of late I have really enjoydd scarborough, weather he has seen the changing wind or just needed to stand up for his party and AGAINST the neo cons who CLAIM to be republicans when in fact they are radicals

never the less, he actually called for a democratic majority to get oversite back into govenrment before the elections and since then I have liked the man and what he’s had to say

sorry

RagingGurrl @ 45

Is there any chance that these investigations may expand to include Bush’s firing of the attorney seeking to prosecute Abramoff in Guam?
Wasn’t Bush directly involved in that?
Please excuse my lack of details, but does anyone remember this?

Yes, it is part of the countless details that are being unraveled at TPM. Josh has been on this story like glue. He owns it just like FDL owns PlameGate.

angie @ 62

Never have I seen a more criminal gang so ripe for impeachment.

It’s past time for us to do this thing and to show the world that the American people know that they are criminals and will not tolerate it.

It’s the only way we can survive as a Nation.

And if the repuglicans & some dems want to go on the record as being against impeachment as the steady stream of caca oozes, nay, blasts forth, then let the world see them for what they are.

unpatriotic tools.

AMEN

A triumverate of losers.

First Bush, then Blair, now Olmert.

Noone likes you guys.

-GSD

I find it a bit too coincidental that as the election season heats up, my party the Dems, are saying things about Rove and Gonzales and seem to be just waking up to the misdeeds of the Bush administration. Where was my party, beginning in 2000,while the Republicans and the SCOTUS was busy stealing the election?

Wow, I sure hope fatface Kyle Sampson gets immunity for his Hill testimony. I want to see him testify the same day at Rover, so Olbermann can do a “separated at birth” segment.

perris @ 61

RevDeb @ 57

he sez dimm-ocrat!!

just caught it during the commercial of something else I was watching. No, I don’t watch as a habit. They keep elevating Pat Buchanan to the status of someone who has a brain and something to say.

of late I have really enjoydd scarborough, weather he has seen the changing wind or just needed to stand up for his party and AGAINST the neo cons who CLAIM to be republicans when in fact they are radicals

never the less, he actually called for a democratic majority to get oversite back into govenrment before the elections and since then I have liked the man and what he’s had to say

sorry

I maintain that he is just trying to skim off of Keith’s ratings and trying to hold on to Keith’s viewers. That was brought home last week when he had an early slot, filling in for Tucker, I think, and was back to being the wing nut he naturally is.

Stupid consultant Shrum must have been advising Hillary to make that statement about “troops in Iraq forever” today. Why did she feel pressed to say something so idiotic, unless A*P*C slipped her a roofie?

If Hillary ascends the presidency, does anyone think our support for the Israeli government will become more realistic?

Scarborough’s pronunciation of “Dimmo-crat” must be a regional affectation because I have picked it up that he uses that same vowel pronunciation in other words too.

He may be a Republican, but that isn’t one of his schticks to mispronounce things to needle the other party.

-GSD

Former President Carter has it down cold, as far as what’s going on in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Beautiful; thanks for the heads up.

RevDeb @ 68

I maintain that he is just trying to skim off of Keith’s ratings and trying to hold on to Keith’s viewers. That was brought home last week when he had an early slot, filling in for Tucker, I think, and was back to being the wing nut he naturally is.

deb, you might be right but I have to tell you, it’s really good to see a conservative telling republicans that this is not their party

it’s really good to see him call them morons, it’s really good to see a republican do these things.

ya, he might be an oportunist, I don’t dissagree but he is a very nice weapon for us to use

upyernoz @ 4

who’s gonna do the impeaching if the dems are a lost cause too?

My guess: It’ll be the netroots and the bloggers and the rare Murray Waas’s and Henry Waxman’s and Fitzgerald’s holding these abusers’ and criminals’ feet to the fire, exposing their lies and cover-ups and meta-cover-ups until public opinion shifts so dramatically into a chorus call for impeachment that the Dem-sheep will finally feel “safe” in suggesting it. Seriously - how much more evidence and how many more scandals do the Dems need to see to grow a damn collective spine and just tear the facade off these f*ckers?

On an optimistic note, tomorrow could be really interesting…. My tin-foil guess is that these KSM confessions were so released in the context of knowing Valerie would be speaking tomorrow (and that the USA scandal was about to go from festering to boiling). I’d be expecting a whole series of diversions (unless the Rovian diversion committee have started jumping ship).

yo!
here I am! last! oldest! ugliedst!

RevDeb @ 64

RagingGurrl @ 45

Is there any chance that these investigations may expand to include Bush’s firing of the attorney seeking to prosecute Abramoff in Guam?
Wasn’t Bush directly involved in that?
Please excuse my lack of details, but does anyone remember this?

Yes, it is part of the countless details that are being unraveled at TPM. Josh has been on this story like glue. He owns it just like FDL owns PlameGate.

That would be good news - straight to Bush.

I want zero of my tax dollars going to the Israeli government.

Jeez Louise, I wondered why I was down in the last thread talking to myself (hey, where’d everybody GO?).

Boy, is my face red.

Anyway, great post, Brendan!

It’s simple, but contains great truth. This mafia has pissed off a great many folks who actually love their country.

As the unraveling continues, more and more people will come out of the woodwork to rat on the rats.

It’s gonna be an avalanche of corruption spilling out!!! Gangway!

Lady of the Lake @
19

Also, being a former Rhode Islander, do you know about the Rocky Point Movie? To be released in September.

Yup. And that band doing the soundtrack? I usedto go see them back in the day, Neutral Nation y’all.

Rhode Island is a rock-n-roll state. where are you from?

RevDeb @
21

ccmask @ 15

In those emails, who is referred to as “judge”? Gonzo?

Believe it or not, Abu was a TX supreme court judge!!!! Then again, so was Cornyn.

No further comment

Not unbelievable. Remember, Judges are elected down here. You’ve seen what the majority of our voters put in office. Think they’re any different with their judges?

Mrs. K8 @ 81

Jeez Louise, I wondered why I was down in the last thread talking to myself (hey, where’d everybody GO?).

oops, I thought you knew…

VCU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Duke Duke bites the big one!

more apprpriate to the previous thread:

Blame Bill

Once again, Republicans are using the Clinton dodge — he did it too! — to justify the Bush administration’s unjustified firing of eight U.S. attorneys.

By Joe Conason

perris @ 45

eCAHNomics @ 34

This one’s really good. Rawstory headline: New York Times: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s expansive testimony may complicate prosecution of other terror suspects

Hahahahahaha.

KSM confessed to all those crimes so U.S. will have trouble prosecuting others for them. A tad too clever those CIA & Pentagon sorts.

it was NOT the cia he was too clever for, they were AGAINST torture and informed the president in no uncertain terms they get LESS information that is UN reliable, that it wastes resources and time that should be used aggressing more valuable data

THAT BESIDES THE POINT THAT US TORTURING PRISONERS HARMS OUR SOLDIERS

AND we are SUPPOSED to be “winning the hearts and minds” of the Iraqi’s, torturing our prisoners RADICALIZES the Iraqi’s against us, it DEFEATS OUR PURPOSE, and it makes it almost impossible to win

ALL TOLD TO THE ADMINISTRATION BEFORE THEY INSTITUTED THEIR DEPRAVED POLIVY OF TORTURE

it was as if they WANTED to fail, it’s as if the administration was on the same team as bin laden and did everything neccessary have him win

Fair enough. I should make sure that my criticism is meant for the masters and not for the troops.

The purpose of torture is to get the prisoner to say what you want him to say. KSM did all that and then some. I think the masters felt proud. I don’t suppose they would have anticipated any consequences beyond the victorious moment when they heard that they’d captured the baddest of the bad.

Here’s my question: Do you suppose that KSM’s confession was prerehearsed to make it difficult to prosecute anyone else for al Qaeda’s crimes? Or do you think he was motivated by hubris to take credit for everything? Or do you suppose he just succumbed to torture? Or all of the above?

GSD @ 73 It could also be Dhimmi-crat..but I agree that Joe hasn’t gone that far, yet.

Rhode Island, home of the big bug and Buddy Cianci’s sauce!

Also, the Gonzales Drip is turning into a flood. Alberto better get in touch with Jeb to buy some pumps to clean up the water.

Republican Congressman Dana Rorabacher calls for Albo to quit.

-GSD

RevDeb @
59

TeddySanFran @ 46

RevDeb @ 40

You are braver than I to watch JoeScar — I can’t stand the way he sez dimm-ocrat!!

just caught it during the commercial of something else I was watching. No, I don’t watch as a habit. They keep elevating Pat Buchanan to the status of someone who has a brain and something to say.

Scarborough is a weird guy: sometimes he seems to have a clue. I know he’s none too fond of Bush, but I don’t trust the guy. How can I trust someone who can’t account for the dead intern under his desk?

sorry to throw you out brendan.

Here’s an OCR of the PDF of one of Rove’s emails; lost easier to cut and paste references from…

8ampson, Kyle
From: Sampson. Kyle
Sent Sunday, January 09. 2005 7:34 PM
To: David G. Lejbch@who.eop.gov`
Subject: RE: Question from Karl Rove

Judge and I discussed briefly a couple of weeks ago. My thoughts are:

1. As a legal matter, U.s. Attorneys serve a 4-year term and may holdover iaflefinately thereafter (all at the pleasure of the President, of course). None of the President’s U.S. Attorney appointees have served a full term yet — the first were confirmed in September 2001. and many were confirmed during the ia months thereafter. Although they serve at the pleasure of the President, it would be weird to ask them to leave before completing at least a 4-year term.

2. As an historical matter, U.S. Attorneys served at least until the expiration of their 4-year term, even where an election changed the party in power — until President Clinton fired the Bush41-appointed U.S. attorneys in 1993, nearly all of whom were in the midst of their 4-year terms. In 2001, President Buah43 fired the Clinton-appointed U.B. Attorneys, some of whom were in the mi,dat of a 4-year term, but many of whom had completed their 4-year terms and were serving in holdover status.

3. As an operational matter, we would like to replace is-20 percent of the current U.S. Attorneys — the underperfoxming ones.

(This is a rough guess; we might want to consider doing performance evaluations after Judge comes on board.) The vast majority of U.S. Attorneys, Bo-85 percent, I would guess, are doing a great job, are loyal Hushiea, etc., etc. Due to the history, it would certainly send ripples through the U.s. Attorney community i^ we told folks they got one term only (as a general matter, the Reagan U.S. Attorneys appointed in 1981 stayed on through the entire Reagan Administration; Bueh41 even had to establish that Reagan-appointed U.S. Attorneys would not be permitted to continue on through the Huah41 Administration) — indeed, even performance evaluations likely would create ripples, though this wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing.

4.As a political matter, each of our U.S. Attorneys has been recommended by one or more political leaders in their home State. 2 suspect that when push comes to shove, home-State Senators likely would resist wholesale (or even piecemeal) replacement of U.S. Attorneys they recommended (see Senator Hatch and the Utah U.S. Attorney).That said, if Karl thinks there would be political will to do it, then so do I.

—–Original Message—–
Prom: David G. Leitchwho.eop.gov jmailto:David G. Leitchwho.eop.govJ Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:34 PM
To: Sampson, Kyle
Subject: Fw: Question from Karl Rove
Let’s discu5s
—– original Message—–

From: Newman, Colin
To: Leitch, David G. Sent: Thu Jan 06 12:30:1~
2005
Subject: Question from Karl Rove

David — Karl Rove stopped by to ask you (roughly quoting) “how we planned to proceed regarding US Attorneys, whether we were going to allow all to stay, request resignations from all and accept only some of them, or selectively replace them, etc.” I told him that you would be on the hill all day for the Judge’s hearing, and he said the matter was not urgent. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, -COlin
Colin M. Newman
Office of counsel to the President (202) 456-5887

GSD @ 72

Scarborough’s pronunciation of “Dimmo-crat” must be a regional affectation because I have picked it up that he uses that same vowel pronunciation in other words too.

-GSD

I think you’re right. I never noticed but then I’ve been in Texas since 1980 (California native). Texans and southerners pick up my California accent and Californians only hear my southern accent, funny how that works ; )

Hey admins;

If you want something OCR’d for the site just let me know…

In the meantime, I’m going outside to relieve myself on a bush.

GSD @ 89

Rhode Island, home of the big bug and Buddy Cianci’s sauce!

And Haven Brothers, Don’t forget Havens!

Republican Congressman Dana Rorabacher calls for Albo to quit.

OH SNAP.
Another one. How long till he takes the walk?

And what’s crazy is that this has been coming for so long. It’s just been festering and festering like a rotten old sore, all gangrene. That’s rove right there, abject gangrene on the body politic.

OOOPS; “Hushiea” is the OCR translation of “BUSHIES”… I’ll proofread it a bit closer next time.

somegirl @ 91

sorry to throw you out brendan.

nahh, I hadda get home! I can’t take over your computer…

Here is an explanation of “Gonzo the Texas Judge” thing.
www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/3/15/201837/219

Er what is OC