Comments on: The Rule Of Karl Must End http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:29:02 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: unmask911 http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-559721 unmask911 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:08:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-559721 <p>Founder Alert!!!!!<br /> “The hypocrisy and disdain for which these people hold the principles of freedom, justice and democracy is stunning in its scope and breadth, isn’t it?” Yes, indeed it is. Especially when that scope and breadth extends all the way back to these “noble Founders” of whom you seem so fond. What BS! This “great Republic” was founded on the backs of African slaves and the attempted extermination of the indigenous people and the outright theft of their land. And those originals that weren’t slaughtered are herded into their own concentration camps and suffer the indignities of forced white institutions (and Iraq, New Orleans, and the current round ups of Mexicans are testament that nothing has changed) It’s about time to get off the high horse and acknowledge the truth about the euro american heritage and the real history of the United States. Yea, we all know Karl’s a sleaze bag, he belongs in jail, etc. etc. Pretty much a typical white euro american cutthroat shithead. But let’s get real, you’re a priviliged white girl droning on about principles that only get applied selectively by whites, mostly male, and pretty much exclusively for whites. As for the Founder bullshit, here’s a quote from the Commander in Chief, George Washington to his generals. “Go and kill the savages until not one is left standing”.<br /> And since we’re on a roll here, there’s this one:<br /> “It continues through several of our own Constitutional principles and provisions of the Bill of Rights, but you get the idea. This is what we push forward as a model to the rest of the world, as the principles we hold dear — “(Pay no attention to the land grab and genocide)<br /> Great job! You’ve gotten really close to the truth of the white euro american heritage with this one. Except it should read, and it does even if you’re oblivious to it, “this is what we push on the rest of the world because we know what’s best” White American exceptionalism. It’s so ingrained, so programmed intelligent people don’t even realize they do it. Remarkable.</p> Founder Alert!!!!!
“The hypocrisy and disdain for which these people hold the principles of freedom, justice and democracy is stunning in its scope and breadth, isn’t it?” Yes, indeed it is. Especially when that scope and breadth extends all the way back to these “noble Founders” of whom you seem so fond. What BS! This “great Republic” was founded on the backs of African slaves and the attempted extermination of the indigenous people and the outright theft of their land. And those originals that weren’t slaughtered are herded into their own concentration camps and suffer the indignities of forced white institutions (and Iraq, New Orleans, and the current round ups of Mexicans are testament that nothing has changed) It’s about time to get off the high horse and acknowledge the truth about the euro american heritage and the real history of the United States. Yea, we all know Karl’s a sleaze bag, he belongs in jail, etc. etc. Pretty much a typical white euro american cutthroat shithead. But let’s get real, you’re a priviliged white girl droning on about principles that only get applied selectively by whites, mostly male, and pretty much exclusively for whites. As for the Founder bullshit, here’s a quote from the Commander in Chief, George Washington to his generals. “Go and kill the savages until not one is left standing”.
And since we’re on a roll here, there’s this one:
“It continues through several of our own Constitutional principles and provisions of the Bill of Rights, but you get the idea. This is what we push forward as a model to the rest of the world, as the principles we hold dear — “(Pay no attention to the land grab and genocide)
Great job! You’ve gotten really close to the truth of the white euro american heritage with this one. Except it should read, and it does even if you’re oblivious to it, “this is what we push on the rest of the world because we know what’s best” White American exceptionalism. It’s so ingrained, so programmed intelligent people don’t even realize they do it. Remarkable.

]]> By: Lee http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-559293 Lee Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:55:22 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-559293 <p>This is important and let it roll. But what does it say about us, that the misinformation and lies that lead us to war, and everything that has emerged from that strategy, continues. Let the subpeonas come.</p> This is important and let it roll. But what does it say about us, that the misinformation and lies that lead us to war, and everything that has emerged from that strategy, continues. Let the subpeonas come.

]]> By: serena1313 http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-559151 serena1313 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:44:02 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-559151 <p>Beautifully written, thank You.</p> <p>One obvious conclusion we can draw is that bush uses ideologues rather than problem-solvers.</p> <p>I just learned while reading Dan Froomkin’s Q&A session that Brett Tolman, the one responsible for inserting the US attorney provision into the Patriot Act while serving as staffer for Arlene Specter, is now Utah’s US attorney. That contradicts Gonzales’ denials that politics had anything to do with it. Furthermore aside from whether against the law it demonstrates political gain trumps ethical principle, traditional precedent and the rule of law.</p> <p>Consequently favouring ideological partisan politics instead of making sound policies leaves the military and the public unwittingly paying the price.</p> <p>We need to return to an independent, impartial and fair-minded justice system without political maneuvering. Otherwise the courts become a tool for corruption.</p> Beautifully written, thank You.

One obvious conclusion we can draw is that bush uses ideologues rather than problem-solvers.

I just learned while reading Dan Froomkin’s Q&A session that Brett Tolman, the one responsible for inserting the US attorney provision into the Patriot Act while serving as staffer for Arlene Specter, is now Utah’s US attorney. That contradicts Gonzales’ denials that politics had anything to do with it. Furthermore aside from whether against the law it demonstrates political gain trumps ethical principle, traditional precedent and the rule of law.

Consequently favouring ideological partisan politics instead of making sound policies leaves the military and the public unwittingly paying the price.

We need to return to an independent, impartial and fair-minded justice system without political maneuvering. Otherwise the courts become a tool for corruption.

]]> By: maunga http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-559022 maunga Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:03:07 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-559022 <p>Let us see the Quotation correct, please, ladies and gentlemen.</p> <p>Lord Acton to bishop Mandell Creighton in 1887. </p> <p>– “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men.”</p> <p>to change the subject….. why is no one gunning for Nancy Pelosi for demonstrating that like Lieberman her first loyalty is to Israel in her approving Bush’s intention to attack Iran?</p> Let us see the Quotation correct, please, ladies and gentlemen.

Lord Acton to bishop Mandell Creighton in 1887.

– “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men.”

to change the subject….. why is no one gunning for Nancy Pelosi for demonstrating that like Lieberman her first loyalty is to Israel in her approving Bush’s intention to attack Iran?

]]> By: perris http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-559007 perris Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:54:45 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-559007 <p><a href="#comment-558958"><em>Mason @ 243 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>In searching for a crime upon which to base impeachment of this entire criminal administration, why not use the RICO statute (i.e., Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization) and designate the Republican Party as the organization?</p> <p>Get rid of all the bastards in one fell swoop.</p></blockquote> <p>crime for impeachment?</p> <p>I do believe lying to congress is top of the list, lying, creating data and witholding data so they could wage war that should have never ever been waged</p> <p>it is bizzarre republicans want to keep this guy in office</p> <p>it’s time we “re discovered” the official minutes taken at downing street and re introduce the fourth estate to their responsibility making those facts known to America</p> Mason @ 243

In searching for a crime upon which to base impeachment of this entire criminal administration, why not use the RICO statute (i.e., Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization) and designate the Republican Party as the organization?

Get rid of all the bastards in one fell swoop.

crime for impeachment?

I do believe lying to congress is top of the list, lying, creating data and witholding data so they could wage war that should have never ever been waged

it is bizzarre republicans want to keep this guy in office

it’s time we “re discovered” the official minutes taken at downing street and re introduce the fourth estate to their responsibility making those facts known to America

]]> By: Mason http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-558958 Mason Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:26:12 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-558958 <p>In searching for a crime upon which to base impeachment of this entire criminal administration, why not use the RICO statute (i.e., Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization) and designate the Republican Party as the organization?</p> <p>Get rid of all the bastards in one fell swoop.</p> In searching for a crime upon which to base impeachment of this entire criminal administration, why not use the RICO statute (i.e., Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization) and designate the Republican Party as the organization?

Get rid of all the bastards in one fell swoop.

]]> By: Mossy Pete http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-558942 Mossy Pete Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:20:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-558942 <p>Years down the road when the truth comes out I think we (even us on the left side of the blogosphere) will all be astounded at the reality of who actually controls the country (Cheney and Rove)and just how much GWB is a mindless puppet totally divorced from reality. Like that Kevin Kline movie where a look alike actor impersonates a stroked out President. Except we (as a nation) voted for the empty suit president – (well not the first time)</p> Years down the road when the truth comes out I think we (even us on the left side of the blogosphere) will all be astounded at the reality of who actually controls the country (Cheney and Rove)and just how much GWB is a mindless puppet totally divorced from reality. Like that Kevin Kline movie where a look alike actor impersonates a stroked out President. Except we (as a nation) voted for the empty suit president – (well not the first time)

]]> By: TiredFed http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-558823 TiredFed Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:25:44 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-558823 <p>really, we could just borrow him. we’ll send him right back after 8 years or so.</p> really, we could just borrow him. we’ll send him right back after 8 years or so.

]]> By: TiredFed http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-558821 TiredFed Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:24:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-558821 <p><a href="#comment-558508"><em>dmac @ 177 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>OT</p> <p>from ohio:</p> <p>am popping in to say that i wish everyone could have heard MY NEW OHIO GOVERNOR ted strickland’s state of the state speech!!!!!</p> <p>every child in ohio gets health coverage</p> <p>family of 4 making 62,000 gets medicare–that’s those at 300% of poverty level, those earning above that can buy into medicare coverage…</p> <p>pregnant women at 150% get coverage</p> <p>elderly and disabled don’t pay property taxes on first 25,000—that’s 1 in 4 people</p> <p>adding to program that allows elderly to stay in their homes instead of going into nursing homes….</p> <p>significantly adding to preschool programs—which were almost nonexistant thanks to taft in office…..said where you start out in life and where yuo go to school shouldn’t determine where you end up in life…..</p> <p>ending vouchers, freezing charter and for profit charter schools….</p> <p>tobacco settlement money going into schools…</p> <p>almost a billion into energy…</p> <p>break for businesses that provide training for young workers..</p> <p>expanding training for older workers and offering training to make it more accessible, i.e. location and time of day offered…</p> <p>too many things to list…</p> <p>is offering carrots to republican majority legislature to get policies changed…..</p> <p>basically is already undoing what taft did…has been dismantling many many things since he took office..</p> <p>and adding on more changes for working poor…..</p> <p>i can’t articulate what a pleasure it was to hear him coming over the airwaves, i have tears in my eyes…..really….</p> <p>i knew he was for real, but was waiting to hear what his plans are..and if he really had any………boy does he, has surrounded himself with some really smart people….</p> <p>please take a moment one day and listen to his speech, it was incredible.</p></blockquote> <p>is he free in 2008? we could use a REAL Dem for a change.</p> dmac @ 177

OT

from ohio:

am popping in to say that i wish everyone could have heard MY NEW OHIO GOVERNOR ted strickland’s state of the state speech!!!!!

every child in ohio gets health coverage

family of 4 making 62,000 gets medicare–that’s those at 300% of poverty level, those earning above that can buy into medicare coverage…

pregnant women at 150% get coverage

elderly and disabled don’t pay property taxes on first 25,000—that’s 1 in 4 people

adding to program that allows elderly to stay in their homes instead of going into nursing homes….

significantly adding to preschool programs—which were almost nonexistant thanks to taft in office…..said where you start out in life and where yuo go to school shouldn’t determine where you end up in life…..

ending vouchers, freezing charter and for profit charter schools….

tobacco settlement money going into schools…

almost a billion into energy…

break for businesses that provide training for young workers..

expanding training for older workers and offering training to make it more accessible, i.e. location and time of day offered…

too many things to list…

is offering carrots to republican majority legislature to get policies changed…..

basically is already undoing what taft did…has been dismantling many many things since he took office..

and adding on more changes for working poor…..

i can’t articulate what a pleasure it was to hear him coming over the airwaves, i have tears in my eyes…..really….

i knew he was for real, but was waiting to hear what his plans are..and if he really had any………boy does he, has surrounded himself with some really smart people….

please take a moment one day and listen to his speech, it was incredible.

is he free in 2008? we could use a REAL Dem for a change.

]]> By: My, my http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-558799 My, my Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:18:43 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/14/the-rule-of-karl-must-end/#comment-558799 <p>Another moment in history for the Bush regime….</p> <p>That is if it will be accurately portrayed for posterity….</p> Another moment in history for the Bush regime….

That is if it will be accurately portrayed for posterity….

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