
(Photo via the always amusing Attaturk at Rising Hegemon.)
Thank goodness Atrios watched Hardball so that I didn't have to yesterday. And thank goodness C&L has the clip, so that it can be replayed for Ms. Mitchell at some future trial when her math skills are called into question by some criminal defense attorney. (What's good for the Pumpkin…)
For those of us little people out here in America, from the CNN/Opinion Research poll, here are the actual numbers:
SHOULD NOT PARDON: 69%
SHOULD PARDON: 18%
NOT SURE: 13%
And in every sense of the numbers, except for those in Andrea Mitchell's head, 69% is a larger number than 18%, and, thus, more people — a LOT more people — OPPOSE a pardon for Scooter Libby than approve of it. You'd think a woman who is married to the former head of the Fed would have access to people who could explain basic third grade math, wouldn't you?
69 is greater than 18.
18 is less than 69.
Unless, of course, her intent was not so much to understand this basic mathematics but, instead, to spin an impression which will not later be corrected to viewers who might not bother to look up the original numbers because her pals, the Cheneys, might want things spun that way. Hmmmmm…
(Although, to be perfectly fair, it is entirely possible that Andrea Mitchell has no real familiarity with the number 69 at all whatsoever. I'm just saying…)
And in actual news, guess who can expect a Congressional subpoena?
The House Judiciary Committee will call senior White House adviser Karl Rove to testify about his role in the firing of several U.S. attorneys, Chairman John Conyers Jr., D-Mich., said today. “On Friday, the Judiciary Committee issued a letter expanding the investigation into the firing of U.S. attorneys to include the White House. We had previously learned of Karl Rove’s involvement in the firings, and recent stories implicating him in the firing of [former U.S. attorney in New Mexico David C. Iglesias] raise even more alarm bells for us,” Conyers said. “As a result, we would want to ensure that Karl Rove was one of the White House staff that we interview in connection with our investigation.” Sen. Charles E. Schumer, D-N.Y., called on the Senate Judiciary Committee to do the same. “The more we learn, the more it seems that people at high levels in the White House have been involved in the U.S. attorney purge,” Schumer said. The Justice Department made the unusual move of ousting seven U.S. attorneys in December. An eighth, H.E. “Bud” Cummins III of Arkansas, was dismissed in June to make way for a Rove protege.
Perhaps more than one subpoena. We live in interesting times. (H/T to Interested Plaintiff for the link.)
UPDATE: Corrected above — it was CNN/Opinion Research, not Gallup, poll. My mistake. Thanks much to a reader for noting that. I keep forgetting that they severed ties on their polling — it was such a long relationship. My apologies.
UPDATE #2: The WaPo has more on the potential for Rove testimony on the USA firings, as well as a potential WH connection via Harriett Miers among a whole lot of other tap dancing on the issue. The NYTimes also has more, begining its piece with the fact that the WH was "deeply involved" in the firings. As always, though, TPM is the place to go for history and context.
UPDATE #3: Kudos to Sen. Pat Leahy, btw — good on him!



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good morning, Christy
typo: “third great” math
Ben at 2 — dang it, that’s what I get for typing when I’m peeved. Thanks.
Morning Titanyum — good to see you. :)
I’m guessing Alan balances the checkbook in that household.
Mornin Christie!
WAXMAN and CONYERS!
Mornin’ Christy, there are three kinds of Republicans: those who can count and those who can’t.
Will the Turd be allowed to testify on his own or will he have to have a “minder” as Shrub had with Cheney at the 9/11 commission fiasco?
Chirsty:
I’m sure none of us know what you mean by that. ;-)
There must be something in the drinking water at the Greenspan house – his track record on numbers ain’t so swift lately, either…
What surprises me is the question “Where is the outrage?” The Bush administration seems to be piling it higher and deeper and the general population doesn’t seem to care.
btw, the “69″ crack was Mr. RedHedd’s and it made me laugh out loud, so I had to share it with you guys. hehehehe
petedownunder @ 7
– I’da spewed if I was drinking anything…but I ski the lake safely.
Very nice! The smack down and the news about the Judicary committees.
But Schumer knows its more than just the purge. Schumer, more than anyone, knows that Uncle Karl’s been diddling US Attorney appointments from the get go. And did I mention the judges?
Chuck Took a lot of heat for blocked the Estrada nomination. Maybe that pounding has made him shy about exposing the whole mess, but he should.
I think he may be woried that the compromises he was forced into when the Dems had no power will come back to bite him. But Chuck, if your lurking today, you made the best you could of a really bad situation and in doing so not only did a fair amount of good, but more importantly was able to stop some really bad stuff.
Go for it. Do the whole Spring cleaning, get all of the mess out into the sunlight where it can be disinfected.
Unlurking today.
My, my, Ms. Smith is very saucy this morning!
“(Although, to be perfectly fair, it is entirely possible that Andrea Mitchell has no real familiarity with the number 69 at all whatsoever. I’m just saying…)”
Love it!
And you’re being much to kind to Ms. Mitchell. These people really need to just be fired. They’re so dishonest.
Per an article in this morning’s NY Times:
So now Bush is personally involved, not working through cutouts.
I guess it’s good that Rove is getting a subpeona, and this latest Bush scandal is as bad as the others. But I still want to see some action against the whole administration. IE Impeachment of Cheney/Bush for the mess they created in Iraq. I’d settle for impeachment for the dozen other crimes they committed, but that’s the one I really want to see them pay for.
lhp—
Could the US attorneys issue be about corruption of congressional and gubernatorial races?
Election fraud on a massive scale? And if you go after Dems you get to stay, but if you refuse you get fired. Could that be the game.
And if your investigations hurt Repubs and you refuse to stop, then you’re fired.
Am I getting close?
Titanyum @ 10
Because the press is just telling us to wait til 2008 (I mean look at all the news about the candidates these days). And with impeachment off the table, what else can we do?
Todd at 14 — Well, I’m feeling a little saucy this morning, to tell you the truth. The whole moronic cabal is getting on my last nerve today. Sometimes, you just have to let it all out. *g*
Wigwam @ 15
Oh Jeez,
This is insta-declassification all over again. SOmeone points out the Karl was not authorized to do what Karl already did, so not Shrub’s gona come in and say he did it.
Dude, I so did not need that “not familiar with 69″ conceit this morning.
Thank you very little.
lhp at 13 — It would be a lovely thing if Chuck blew the lid on a number of things that have been screwy with this Administration. He’d certainly earn some points with me if he did. Here’s hoping, anyway…
Ms. Mitchell is just following the Republican playbook. Repeat a lie until it becomes the truth.
egregious @
17
In my opinion, yes. There’s more than one reason, hence the muddied waters about so-called “performance”. But congressional and gubernatorial races were part and parcel of this rolling purge at DOJ.
Ugh, I just regurgitated my coffee. Is that the before or after picture ad for Botox and Rogaine? Wow, hands down winners of the Ugliest Couple Award. Talk about being whacked by the ugly stick fairy!
Tug at 21 — hehehehehehe Sorry about that. (Well, not really, but I’m sorr it made your morning coffee less enjoyable anyway.)
Christy Hardin Smith @
11
And I was just assuming you got all your coffee early this morning.
RockPaperScizzors at 25 — My favorite part of that picture is Alan staring at Connie’s bazoombas. Subtle.
Connie Chung needs a thought bubble over her head: Eyes up HERE, you old lecher.
egregious @ 17
I think you are right that the attorney firing is just the tip of the iceberg. The question is “Which iceberg?”
Andrea was simply referring to the people she knows.looseheadprop @ 20
Putting noose around his own neck does nothing to save Karl’s.
‘morning all!
Did Abu quit yet?
The 69 comment made me chuckle out loud and my first thought was “that’s probably true”. Her hubby does not strike me as the 69 type…and if he’s one of the neo cons he’s more likely on the down low…just sayin’.
lhp—
I edited and added a bunch of stuff if time can you look back at my # 17 thx.
I have a question. IF Libby is pardoned before the civil case, what effect would that have?
Andrea’s obviously using the results from the poll she conducted. The respondents were herself, her hubby, Russ, Jack Welch and Ron Silver. That poll shows a majority wants Libby to be pardoned.
Wigwam @
15
So far, I have yet to hear anyone connect voting fraud with Bush’s two elections. 2000, Rove only wins the election because he has some “felons” (read, black people with common names) purged from the FL voting file illegally. 2004, he wins because a bunch of people in OH are disenfranchised.
Is anyone connecting these dots? BC, not long after Bush “won” his second election by
policing voting frauddisenfranchising people, he tries to purge ALL of the USAs. All of them. UNder threat of them cracking down on “voting fraud.”OldCoastie @ 32
…maybe Friday. One can dream.
As chance would have it Christy, I have a NEW salute to Andrea up today, looking at her stellar news coverage…
Throughout History!
Have Andrea and Alan always been in love, or is this a later in life affair? Anybody know?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 28
Coffee up the nose :-), thanks for the laugh. Obviously, solid food hasn’t touched Andrea’s lips for decades and Alan’s cataract surgery was a success.
“Voter fraud” is right wing speak for Democrats that they are trying to disenfranchise, as if millions of people were cheating as they vote. They use the phrase to muddy the water.
We are concerned with “election fraud,” where the votes of millions of people aren’t counted. Different subject.
The House Judiciary Committee will call senior White House adviser Karl Rove to testify about his role in the firing of several U.S. attorney
Oh goody, it’s starting to feel like spring again.
Terry Olson @ 40
From Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Mitchell
katie jensen @ 33
I just threw up a little in my mouth.
egregious @ 17
I don’t think it is quite as direct as that. Or at least not in the beginning. I think it’s more subtle. Remember, some of the USA’s THOUGHT they were supposed to do their jobs until they got caught actually doing them.
It’s not like Fitz, and I think his appointment is an excellent example and all this has been in the papers already cause Sen Fitzgerald put it in the news himself.
Sen Fitzgerald somehow (I never saw an article that explained how)got wind that propsed USA appointments were supposed to be vetted through Rove.
We at the lake all know the stpry of how Sen Fitzgerald actually conducted a search based on merit and wanted to go outside the reportedly very incestous Chicago legal community to find a straight shooter.
I guess he was shrewd enough to know that if he submitted Pat’s name to Uncle Karl, that the alter boy reputation might not sit too well, so instead, without prior warning to Rove, the clever Senator called a press conference and announced his pick and did a whole dog an pony show about how he arrived at his decision.
Since there is nothing about Pat that is objectionalable (unless you want to go on public record that qualtities you are looking for are craveness and a “go along to get along” attitude instead of integrity)the WH was basically embrassed into letting Pat’s name go to the hill where he was handily confirmed. Who wouldn’t love our Big Guy?
But in many other districts it was a lot more subtle thn that. Rejecting really good, decent honest candidates with demonsteated accomplishments and saying to the Senator or Govenor who had been given the pick, “Can’t you send us more names?” Until eventually that got somebody that they thought would play ball.
That, and they would horsetrade judicial nominations. It was like baseball trading cards.
I truly believe that many of these USA’s had no idea that they were being selected because the WH thought they had no backbone and I think it was a bit of a shock to the WH that some of them have stood up and tried to honestly do their jobs.
The big thing that jumps out at me is that in California they doidn’t give the “pick” to a Senator, or the Republican Govenor(how insulting to the Govenator is that?) or even a Congressman or any other elected official but to a FUNDRAISER? WTF?
I think the strangest part of the US Attorney purge is that Abu Gonzales was the one who used restraint. “No Harriet darling, we shouldn’t fire all of them.”
And I’m flipping through the morning news shows and no one is covering it and they are laughing at their little stupid morning jokes and I’m throwing things at the TV…
Morning everybody. So Wolfie got holes in his socks and ol’ Greenie got holes in his peepers. The wholy of holiest!
from TPM
IMHO, asking US Attorneys to harass political opponents is a clear case of attempting to make wrongful use of a governmental instrumentality.
more from the pardon lobby
Wigwam @ 31
If Shrub says HE did it, they get to rely on the USA’s “serve at the pleasure of the President” themesong.
It is true, but only if he exercise that power in good faith, but proving bad faith–not so easy–not without a smoing gun.
So, I must repectfully disagree with you my friend.
Good morning ‘Dogs! Is Greenspan looking at Connie’s boobs? Maurie should get him on his show!
Andrea Mitch-shill
According to Wiki Alan had a 20 year association with Ayn Rand.
Thanks Lou Costello.
emptywheel @ 37
egregious @ 42
That topic’s under review, but it’s not the only item on the menu. And yeah, it’s up-is-downism; the vote fraud in question isn’t non-Republican voters, but the myriad ways in which the vote was manipulated by the Republican Party. Begs the question why OH and FL weren’t on the hit list — but then the folks assigned to those districts may have played ball, in sync with White House “policy”, just as the USA for NH did with the phone jamming case.
The really interesting case is that of San Diego, and it’s not about Carol Lam alone; the district was already in upheaval in 2001-2002, what with the hubbub over Charles La Bella during the tail end of the Clinton Administration. Somebody didn’t want La Bella back in — and Kyle Sampson actively held his nomination. La Bella had been labeled “not a team player”; is this code for “can’t count on him to cover our backsides”?
Rayne, you are rocking my world. You are finding it.
BTW you should see Chuck LaBElla in a courtroom. Real pyrotechnics. Very fun to watch if you are a litigation tourist.
Well, if we can’t quite get to impeachment, chipping away at this lot of fascists is good. Two or possibly three down with the investigation of this stink.
Oh and Rayne, Look for lot’s more of that “not a Team player” or “we can’t let this high profile office go to a Dmeocrat”
Historically, there have always been USA’s of parties opposite that of the President. If the candidate had the support of the Senators in the home state, that used to be enough.
looseheadprop — you know what’s funny?
I found that bit because of the Dark Lord Novakula who wrote a story I can only find at that dreck TownHall (and I refuse to link it here for that reason).
Who’da thunk it??
First “Fitzmas” and now “frogMarch”…I’m kinda loving this new calendar.
On the other topic: I doubt the Greenspans are even comfortable with “18″, much less “69″. They’re probably still working on “11″.
“Litigation tourist” very funny!
Tho after sitting in at the Libby trial, the idea is strangely appealing.
Andrea says: Let me check with punkinhedd on that.
http://oversight.house.gov/Doc…..-61034.pdf
Waxman’s letter to Condi about falls claims of Uranium from Niger!!!
Congratulations Ambassador Wilson, I love the smell of vindication in the morning!
The CNN poll had some numbers on attitudes toward Cheney and his role in the Plame Affair which don’t help him if a bus comes along.
http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/bl…..n-for.html
looseheadprop — yeah, there have been three code phrases used so far that provided cover for something else going on.
Iglesias — not a team player
Lam — not a team player, not covering immigration
Chiara — *crickets chirping*
Good gravy, I actually have to get some work done for the next two hours. Somebody keep working on this stuff for me!!!
p.s. Hey emptywheel…have you checked out GreyHawk’s latest post at ePM and DailyKos? Perle’s name comes up. Wonder whether an expose(accent mark not accepted by WordPress) on Perle in relation to Conrad Black might not be helpful? Ahem.
I thought it was Malkin!
Rayne @ 60
Rayne, almost everything you need is open source. It’s just a matter of pulling all the tiny fragments together. You are doing it my dear!
Ok, WaPo article on the firings has this about Abu’s COS:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..18_pf.html
“Incomplete information” would be that they LIED to Congress, right? And that is a crime, right?
So my question is, if that particular crime is committed, how do you go about prosecuting for that crime?
And these guys are doing a document dump on a Monday? There is something worse out there.
Darkblack could possible make the threesome in the photo look better but no worse.
Gang, FYI, I’ve updated above with links to several more stories on the USA firings.
umm…which one’s Greenspan?
andrea mitchell, doing the junta’s job so they don’t have to.
If the Justice Dept. is run out of the WH, who does Congress use to enforce a subpoena or prosecute contempt of Congress? Also why talk about impeachment of these felons, can’t all of them, with the exception of the President, be prosecuted while they are in office? I guess the answer is related to question #1.
egregious @ 62
EG,
I have been a litigation tourist since law school. Best cheap date in the world for law students? Night court in the regular state crimanl courts. SO MUCH DRAMA. In NYC the criminal court building is right next to the “tombs” a notorious jail. much drama.
I have never practiced in that court, but it is a doozy to watch. If you are ever inthe Big Apple and cannot get tickets to the movie you wanted to watch. Go downtown tohe Crimainl couts for night court.
Rayne @ 67
perle also in this dkos diary, “Sibel Edmonds: Help me put Perle and Feith in jail“.
lhp at 75 — My only gripe is that you can’t take in popcorn. *g* Seriously, though, it is quite the show, isn’t it? Never been to NYC courts for that, but having had to pull 3 am detention hearings here, all the crazy stuff happens after hours. Truly.
ya know, they thought they could just throw Harriet under the bus again, but they’ve lost control…
Interesting that the purge of U.S. Attorney’s in 2004 would have included Patrick Fitzgerald. Coincidinkie no?
Muckraker has an excellent timeline of the events.
anon @ 79
It came close. Sen Fitzgerald came out of retirement and mounted a big prss offensive when Pat’s 4 year term was up. Denny Hassert was quoted in (ChiTrib? I forget) about having already submitted a short list of replacement candidate.
Abu came and mide the ominous “inspection” tour of the Chicago office. The prress was asking Pat about it a press conferences. I, for one, held my breath for several days.
You guys knew about this, right?
“TWO OHIO ELECTION OFFICIALS CONVICTED FOR RIGGING 2004 PRESIDENTIAL RECOUNT!”
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4071
All roads (US attorney firings) lead back to election theft.
http://www.latimes.com/news/na…..k=ntothtml
The latest purge is underway… as usual, with the Bush gang, we can expect the lesser players to be sacrificed to protect the really guilty players at the top end of the game…
Another pawn bites the dust, while the evil Bishops and their wayward Knights roam freely… And the King just stands there, looking more confused and stupid every day.
“A US grand jury in Guam opened an investigation of controversial lobbyist Jack Abramoff more than two years ago, but President Bush removed the supervising federal prosecutor, and the probe ended soon after.[..]…..His replacement, Leonardo Rapadas, was confirmed in May 2003 without any debate. Rapadas had been recommended for the job by the Guam Republican Party. Fred Radewagen, a lobbyist who had been under contract to the Gutierrez administration, said he carried that recommendation to top Bush aide Karl Rove in early 2003.
see:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/
looseheadprop @ 64
That’s a good letter. Why hasn’t Waxman received an adequate reply from Condi on any of the issues addressed.
Is there anway to make sure he does?
looseheadprop @ 75
Sounds not unlike the show!
JEP @
83
How DARE you! George W. Bush is as brave as the Spartan King Leonidas, he’ll lead his troops and fight till the end!
-GSD
Speaking of testimony before Congress…have we heard anything more on who will be testifying at Waxman’s hearing on Friday aside from the lovely Ms. Plame?
Any chance they’d subpoena Libby himself? Be kind of cool to see him have to choose between:
– pleading the 5th and damaging his pardon chances
– telling the truth and thus simultaneously killing his pardon chances and contradicting his own defense as appeals are running
– lying his ass off (again) and opening himself up to *more* charges
That would be fun.
lhp—
Was this before of after it became known that Fitz had the article with Cheney’s handwritten comments on it? That just sort of appeared in one of the court filings. But when, and did that tip the balance?
The renewal of his appt was right around the jury verdict for the governor iirc. Oct? guessing
looseheadprop at 6:21 am
Thank you for the link.
anon @
79
It would have raised too may flags and brought back the specter of Nixon’s “Saturday Night Massacre”. Not that they didn’t want to get rid of him.
The Republican Party is still being led over the cliff by Karl Rove. They are all whining and worried about the 2008 elections…….Keep on letting Rove run the show and Republicans brand will be so damaged there’ll be no turning back.
-GSD
Read the timeline at TPM, definitely missing readily available detail that would help the overall picture.
On the staffer who allegedly slipped in the PatAct revision without Specter’s knowledge:
On the USAG’s chief of staff who “ran amok” and made up the list of USA’s to be dismissed without telling Abu G.:
Both O’Neill and Sampson taught at George Mason, you’ll note.
Thick as thieves.
chaboard @ 88
Taking the 5th might have a wee bit of impact on his appeal too. I realize that it si “outside the reord on appeal”, but these judges aren’t sequestered
LOL & wiping coffee off my monitor @
“that Andrea Mitchell has no real familiarity with the number 69 at all whatsoever.”
Thanks for the chuckle & screen clean this morning!
8.2ontherichter @
49
Yupper! This needs to be highlighted.
“Voter fraud”: The new “literacy test” or “poll tax”.
Christy,
Remind me never to get on your last nerve.
GSD @
91
Note that if the GOP still controlled Congress, none of this would have come out yet.
It took the DoJ whistleblowers’ knowing that Waxman and Conyers would have subpoena power to loosen their tongues. Why speak out if the GOP controls the committees?
Peterr at 96 — Likely no chance of that for you, I’m afraid. ;-)
egregious @ 89
I have a terrible, terible memory for timelines. I remember the Sen FItzgerald press conference. I remember Pat being asked at a press conference (perhaps it was P. Conf. to announce a verdict?) and saying something along the lines that he wasn’t going to campaign to keep his job.
I do think it was Autum 05. He literally arrived in Chicago as the WTC ws attacked. So that’s fall of ‘01 and therm is for 4 years.
I’m unclear about the reason for calling Rove. Since all Rethugs think that the best defense is a good offense, what does the committee do if Rove says “yes I talked to Abu about this. These people serve at the pleasure of the president.” Rove, as Shrub’s point-man, could have done this. “These attorneys performance no longer ‘pleased’ the pres and he asked Rove to speak to Abu about it.” Then comes a big “SO WHAT?”
The committee can impeach Abu (figuratively and literally) about his stated reasons for the purge. But I doubt the Dems do much more than whine. They put themselves in this mess when Spector snuck a provision in a bill that they did-not-read which took them out of the loop. Now WE’RE paying a price for THEM not doing the job to read the bills that they vote for.
Titanyum @
10
Oh, there is outrage — the two-thirds of Americans in the “don’t pardon Scooter” category show that — but the GOP/Media Complex won’t report it. At least, not where most Americans are likely to hear about it.
I am not a Mitchell fan, but …
I have read her infamous CNBC remarks where she claims Valerie Plames identity was widely know among reporters. That is not true. Read the quote closely. She says it was widely known that the unknown envoy was Joe Wilson, and that she only learned of Valerie after the Novak column.
It was Imus that was confused. And he confused her. It was her tortured syntax that made the quote hard to follow.
Still she does not get a pass for failing statistics 101.
lhp at 99 — I believe that was the day that the Ryan verdict was announced, if I remember correctly. And it was when Dailey and Gonzales were having a much-publicized meal together that the verdict came in, which made for some “dyspeptic” press questions during the meal.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 98
((((Christy))))
Because you rate a hug!
We had a lot of fun with math problems and the USA stories on the Late Night thread, if folks want to go back and check it out.
Also lots of bad car and music puns. You have been warned.
Terry Olson @
6
Na na na na, na na na na, na na na na, na na na na,
WAX-MAN!
sonate at 100 — At this point, there have been a number of conflicting statements that have come out of the WH on Rove’s involvement in all of this. Any Senator or Rep. who is at all skilled in cross-examination could make a bit of headway on this — if for no other reason that to simply point out to the public that the WH has been less than forthcoming about this entire issue thus far. And that is worth it all by itself.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 11
So whaddaya bet that the above quote will be the one seized upon by the Wingers when they try to denigrate the ENTIRE story because it was being pushed by DFH bloggers?
In all seriousness, though, yesterday I had posted that I was more upset about Abu Gonzalez’s behavior than Rove’s in this matter. I think, upon reflection, that this was a parochial reaction, in that Abu’s actions showed my profession in a bad light, whereas Rove’s…well sadly, I think this is the behavior we’ve come to expect and I just wasn’t that surprised that he was involved.
However today I have someone new that I want frog-marched out in a perp walk. That would be You, Harriet Miers, come on down. It certainly appears that the genesis of this whole shebang came out of her disgusting little head (and speaking of not knowing anything about 69…)and it appears that she was the moving force behind this. Yes, let’s not forget that this woman who instigated a petty, vindictive, repulsive plan to get rid of EVERY US Attorney and replace them all with political cronies was a nominee to the Supreme Court. And, if I have my timelines correct, she was engaged in this AT THE SAME TIME that she was walking the halls of Congress, impressing (not) senators with her legal acumen.
One thing. Since we now know that Miers had this tremendous crush on her boss and would do anything, ANYTHING, that he wanted, is it too far-fetched that this idea did not spring sui generis out of her head? I’m just askin…
We should contact MSNBC and demand that they make Andrea issue a retraction, or we’re going to boycott their sponsors.
pol at 109 — Word is that Ms. Mitchell has gotten the message on this. I’m hoping there will be a correction on this at some point soon.
Oh Christy, what I wouldn’t give to watch that slug Rover lie under oath in front of Congress.
If they already tripped up Gonzales, McNulty and Moscharella, ya’ gotta’ wonder.
Where’s that popcorn??
Why would Andrea know about 69ing if she had to do it her her troll Greenspan.
Pectopah at 6:56 am
Nice catch.
I haven’t followed this part very closely, but it sounds like Mrs. Greenspan has not either. Instead of quoting your adroit defense, iirc, she just folded her tent and said she misspoke?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 103
I think you are right. And then Abu decided to “inspect” USAO NDIL. Which was just rude IMHO. Visit, yes. Inspect, gratuitously insulting.
Kudos to Sen. Pat Leahy, btw — good on him!
From that NYTimes article:
This administration is simply incapable of learning (or owning up to) anything.
EPU’d last thread but I bring it fwd ‘coz it’s much more relevant here.
And look ou, Christy’s on da Lake *on jet skis!*
HotFlash @ 423
Quzi @ 94
actually, she’s probably about decided it must have been 96 in her notes…. if she could just find em….
dratty
I agree with you that ATTORNEYS who screww around with the integrity of DOJ are more repulsive than politcal operatives who try to play politics with a essential agency b/c the latter is not expected to have any sensitivity to the fact that DOJ should be about integrity.
I have to say as between Harriet Meyers and KArl Rove for the putrified center of this boil, I gotta go with Rove.
I’m not saying Meyers may not be complicite, I just thing Rove is at the heart of this
Chrsity, this made me laugh -
“that Andrea Mitchell has no real familiarity with the number 69 at all whatsoever.” -
but OMG I’m afraid the nasty mental image it gave me is gonna stay with me all day! Yuck!
chaboard @ 88
Consider this from TPM’s Muckraker pages today,
“It’s unclear whether Sampson will be made available to congressional investigators now that he’s resigned.”
..Some of these hearings, including the USA’s firings, are apparently losing potential testimony because the parties are resigning from office? How does that constitute a “bye”on testifying?
If that IS somehow the case, and they resign from their offices to help continue the cover-up, isn’t that just one more piece in the conspiracy puzzle?
Who talked them into resigning?
Ad who’s laying down cover for these ship-jumping rats? How about the MSM? And Congressional Republicans? This is a very big conspiracy.
Consider Andrea Mitchell’s fantasy, and downright advocacy, of a very popular pardon for Scooter Libby. There’s another part of the extrended conspiracy club.
Unfortunately, their numbers are so far from reality, their credibility has dissapeared and their book-cooking credentials are being exposed.
If Mitchell’s spin wasn’t some bad book-cooking (its all in the numbers!) I don’t know what else to call it.
emptywheel@37
Marcy,
As you know,Conyers is on top of the vote,er,election fraud,issue. Maybe he will bring it back up now that he is chairman. I believe that in Michigan the repugs are involved in an attempted vote purge for 2008 that was begun before the 2006 election. Something about sending out letters last summer to certain voters and if they are not returned, removing them from voter lists.
Are you involved in MERA (Michigan Election Reform Alliance)? I know that Jan Bendor who is in charge, is in Ann Arbor (or somewhere near there).
oh, I so hate leaving for work right now!
it’s going to be a long, long day, wondering what’s happened.
HotFlash @ 117
Election monitoring –it’s the way to save our democracy. Do it. It’s fun and it works!
Morning all!
Meanwhile, according to a NYTimes/CBS News poll:
Fresh thread, up and ready for the reading.
Katie Jacob @ 122
Jan Bendor! She’s my hero for saying this:
“I’m more concerned about normaloia than paranoia. That’s when you think everything is OK, no matter what.” She was talking about voting machines.
GSD @
91
Hmmm. Junya was so pissed that Saddam tried to assassinate Daddy that he invaded his country and killed his sons, then tried and offed him.
Now imagine what machinations a Junya would go thru to discredit and exact revenge on a party that didn’t get his daddy re-elected to a second term.
Political total nukular annihilation, anyone?
And also meanwhile, US troops in Iaq and Afghanistan drift into alcohol and crime:
sonate @ 100
Read this comment from Mary4
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-552165
looseheadprop @ 99
egregious @ 89
I have a terrible, terible memory for timelines. I remember the Sen FItzgerald press conference. I remember Pat being asked at a press conference (perhaps it was P. Conf. to announce a verdict?) and saying something along the lines that he wasn’t going to campaign to keep his job.
I do think it was Autum 05. He literally arrived in Chicago as the WTC ws attacked. So that’s fall of ‘01 and therm is for 4 years.
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Yoo hoo Marcy?
Over here—office supplies!
calvin just loves it when Reddhedd gets her snark on.
Sounds like Harriet Meiers is bing set up as the next “fall guy (er, gal)”, another pawn (Meiers) bites the dust to protect the Evil Bishops (Rove and Cheney) and their wayward Knights and Castles (Rumsfeld, Feith, Wolfowitz, et al) from public scrutiny.
The deal with the talking head class is that they basically talk to themselves and their puppet masters in the administration and corporate board rooms or on corporate jets or… perish the thought, first class lounges in airports.
These people are completely out of touch with the people unless you consider appearing on television as being in touch with the people.
The lovely internet which they dispise is stripping away their emperor’s clothes.
The internets must be controlled because it gives the people access to the facts and to each other and they can have none of that.
Don’t be expecting fair and balance on anything remotely related to the corporate world… but it’s nice that organizations like Media Matters makes an attempt at exposing these liars for what they are:
Self serving greedy lying SOBs… everyone of them.
Their idea of balance is to put someone like Lieberman on as a counter to someone like Jerry Falwell for example… a clear choice of positions… hahaha.
It won’t get better till it comes crashing down and we can build something really new. The one we have now has been broken beyond compare.
It’s capitalism’s fault.
In normal times and places, the president would resign (and possibly commit sepuku) over a scandal like this. But this is a power grab, and these folks won’t give up a shred of power until it is pried from their fingers. So, where’s the impeachable offense here? What laws are there that turn abuse of office, malfeasance, and such into crimes?
It smells to me that this was about 2008 and beyond: fixing the elections in key districts and states. (Plus as a added bonus a couple of troublesome US Attorneys that were taking it to crooked Repubs.) The “voter fraud” reference is the tip off, as well the message that comes through that these are just the first round of ‘replacements’, instead of doing all 93 at once.
It never occurred to the WH that they could get caught.
Christy,
That picture…priceless.
Let’s cheer Schumer on in this matter, but not forget that he felt obliged to preface his remarks on Sunday with “Gonzales is a nice man…”
Did the Repubs corner the market on righteous indignation?
Despite their best efforts to conceal and cover up… the republicans are ebeing exposed for the criminals that they are.
All they care about is money and power and expect the little people to keep things running like, roads, and trains, and so forth working.
Everything the republicans touch is corrupt and someone is making lots of money for doing nothing.
But there are some dems in the game too. William Cohen is a prime example of someone cashing out bigtime.
Follow the money… you always find corruption and wrong doing. ALWAYS.
The republicans only hate government when they can’t bleed it for cash. When they can they are right there with their shovels… witness the Military Industrial Complex feeding at the teat of the people.
Or any of the entitlements such as the Drug Bene program, or prisons, or you name it… when government can privitise some of the people’s work… republicans are their with their corporations to take the cash.
And the bailouts when they have screwed up royally. Don’t forget the savings and loan scandel where the lovely bankers and investment community stole the savings of millions to give it to a few crooks to make them millionaires.
Follow the money. If there’s money you will find republicans panting for it.
1. Christy, you are one saucy vixen. Mr. ReddHead is doing just fine! ;)
2. Andrea Mitchell = Marie Antoinette Scarlett O’ Hara.
Let them eat cake, fiddle-de-de!
3. SusanD @ 23 – Goebbels perfected the technique:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels
Phoenix Woman @ 101
Speaking of that, anyone have any idea how much airplay this firing of US Attorneys business is getting (except for perhaps on Countdown)?
One wonders if the 18% statistic (the proportion of those polled who support a pardon) corresponds to the absolute floor on shrub’s JAR. Isn’t Cheney’s JAR about 18%?
epu land but…just what is greenspan looking at there???
Proof she’s bad at math: ask Andrea Mitchell how many times her face has been lifted. I’m sure she’ll say 0. The correct answer >2.
Mandrake @ 142
TPM said Schumer was on CNN talking about it.
And to think, Miers was nominated for the Supreme Court. I think the administration is confusing “having balls” with “being nuts.”
Katie Jacob @
122
Only tangentially, at the local party. Though I know Jan well.
Christy, I’m afraid I won’t be blogging this week at FDL.
You see, the image on Andrea Mitchell entangled in a hot slurpy 69 with Alan Greenspan has driven me to dig out my eyeballs with a rusty spoon.
The image of those two leathery pterodactyls slurping away at the beef-jerky they call their genitals put me off my lunch!
Now off to find that spoon…
The bigger picture — and more effective communications tactic — should be to keep the drums beating about THE WHITE HOUSE IRAQ GROUP —
Who they were
When they started up
What they were doing
and Why they were doing it.
And, along those lines — this is a very important point that needs to keep being made — OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again:
http://www.baltimorechronicle……URNS.shtml
Congress cannot Subpoena Karl Rove because of the Doctrine of Executive Privilege.