
DATELINE: Friday, July 4, 2007. White House Press Secretary Tony Snow announced today that the President has asked Attorney General Gonzales to begin briefing the media on the New Order Constitution, which Snow explained would replace the current Constitution, streamline the nation’s laws and rationalize Administration actions.
“The President understands that the Constitution, written prior to 9/11 and the Global War on Terror, is out of date and needs to be harmonized with what we’re doing,” Snow explained.
“Four years ago, the President directed lawyers in the Defense and Justice Departments, now called The President’s Counsel, to undertake a thorough rewriting of the outmoded Constitution. The President also asked Vice President Cheney to begin declassifying select provisions of the New Order Constitution, which will be unveiled to the public as needed in coming months,” Snow said.
Asked why the entire New Order Constitution would not be declassified and released immediately, a White House counsel involved in the effort said “a national holiday is probably not the best time to roll out a new product.”
Not everyone agrees the new constitution should be disclosed. A Senior Administration Official, speaking anonymously to reporters added, “As Vice President, I don’t believe it is in our security interests to disclose the rules we follow. If the enemy learns what our limits are, they and Democratic members of Congress will exploit them to weaken our will to fight.”
Nevertheless, Firedoglake obtained a copy of several sections of the still secret Constitutition. These sections reveal changes Administration attorneys believe are needed to conform the outdated Constitution to the actions already taken by the White House.
Revisions to Article I. The oversight powers of Congress will be significantly restricted to minimize the risks that Congress might weaken the President’s terror authority by revealing embarrassing secrets during hearings. “Democrats who pursue this course are aiding al Qaeda’s agenda and undermining my authority,” the SAO said. A new provision will make clear that “Congress shall have the duty to declare war and fully fund” war efforts whenever the President requests.
Revisions to Article II. Officials said a new provision will clarify that the President has “unilateral authority in all matters relating to waging war on terror” and to “abrogate treaties affecting the treatment of unlawful combatants.” Other provisions will indicate that presidential “signing statements” have the force of law and must be recognized by the judiciary. Provisions relating to impeachment and removal from office will be deleted, one official said, “because no one has the courage to use them anymore.”
Revisions to Article III. Among other provisions, Courts would be bound by Presidential findings of “state secrets” and required to defer to the Executive on all matters related to national security. Another provision would strip the federal courts of jurisdiction to review Administration actions relating to the fight against terrorism and limit standing to bring suits against the government to those expressly sanctioned by The President’s Counsel.
Draft documents obtained by Firedoglake suggest the Administration is also considering changes to the “Bill of Rights.” Sources told FDL that Administration lawyers concluded early on that a substantial rewrite, and in some cases, outright repeal, of select provisions of the first Ten Amendments would be necessary. Drafts obtained by FDL indicate the following changes are being conisdered:
Amendment I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances, provided, however, these provisions shall not limit the authority of the Executive.
Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
The phrase “except in cases involving persons designated by the President as ‘enemy combatants’ or suspected unlawful immigrants” would be added to the language of Amendments V, VII and VIII. One official noted, “everyone agrees terrorists and aliens don’t deserve the same protections as law abiding Americans.”
Administration officials were asked to explain why the entire Fourth Amendment would be repealed. A senior official indicated, “given everything we’re doing under the President’s Terror Surveillance Programs, only some of which are known, there’s virtually nothing left, so why keep it?”
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JUSTICE!
Scarecrow
Fitz
Don’t joke — that just might give some people ideas
see… I AM still dreaming! This is some sort of nightmare, right?
Very nice Scarecrow. I have to say though that I’d laugh if it wasn’t so true.
why do you hate republicans so?
is it because they hate liberty so?
immanentize @
3
immanentize — great to see you. Yeah, it only hurts when I laugh.
Good morning everyone.
About time.
Isn’t there an executive order on the way that explains the First Amendment only applies to wingnuts and fundamentalists as God intended?
Best, Terry
Why do I have the feeling that this is truer than the truth?
Lead story in NYT Missing Papers, Citizens are Cut From Medicaid
I see my post is already out of date. I cannot keep up with their cruelty. Compassionate Conservatism in action.
Where is that Spotlight function?
OK. Found it! Thanks, Scarecrow.
good morning, scarecrow.
the only difference between this and reality is that the authoritarians prefer not to write anything down.
Way OT, but Halliburton is moving it’s corporate HQ to Dubai. How nervy is that?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..OmdkOyBhIF
dmg @ 12
I was hoping to get the copy of the Constitution with Cheney’s hand written notes on it, but the Justice Department lost it, along with the tapes of the Padilla interrogations.
OldCoastie @
4
Yes, it is a nightmare, but you are not dreaming.
Scarecrow @ 14
well, I’m feeling like Rip VanWinkle…
Scarecrow @ 14
let’s also not forget to smear the founding fathers — girly-men whose wives told them what to do.
How about this headline:
BUSH TO EXTEND PRESIDENCY USING WAR POWERS ACT
President Bush has revealed that he will extend his Presidential term “at least through 2008″, regardless of the results of the upcoming election. Using provisions of the war powers act, President Bush has stated that as long as we are at war, he has the right to remain in power. “We are at war with the terrorists”, said the President, “and it would do damage to our country to change leadership at this delicate hour.”
dmg @ 17
Yep, it was all that Bossy Abigail Adams’fault!
Morning Scarecrow,
Moniing Imm, Missed you
Oh and I misseed it last night and the thread is just too huge to read in its entirety, But I really loved TRex’s Rovesputin post.
regarding the abolition of the fourth amendment, cheney is pushing for a new title to the revised constitution:
“Whee! The Peephole!”
Story of child labor in Guatemala, where Bush is visiting. Bush to press free trade where children still cut cane
looseheadprop @ 20
Imus had Mary Matlin on this morn. He asked her why did Scooter lie, why did Scooter say his dog ate his home work, why don’t the VP resign? Mary M. Said Joe Wilson lied. Mary was begging for donations for Libby, said he has collected 4 mil so far and needs 4 mil more. Imus said, why pay Wells, he didn’t do a very good job. Just paraphrasing here.
Georgesimian @ 18
Yeah, I meant to work in the martial law provision, but it was getting too long. The NYT had an editorial on that one about a month ago.
Scarecrow @ 25
well, the drumbeat on the right has already started: “bush should run again. it’s not like he won the first term.”
It took me a while to realize this was a joke. Like someone else said, it would be funnier if it wasn’t so true.
I looked it up the martial law editorial. I guess I missed it.
Yikes.
gonna be 94 degrees today… time to hit the showers, stumble around in the dark and get ready for work…
have a good one all… let’s hope Abu gets thrown under the bus this week.
the only thing about martial law… with what troops?
Dennis Kucinich objects to the cancellation of the Fox Demo debates. From The Nation:
OldCoastie @ 29
Ha! I guess with Foxnews they’re hoping to make it seem like no big deal. Congress will open an investigation, so they’ll get to the bottom of this coup sooner or later.
It was almost a year ago they were looking at another document:
Declaration of Independence Under Review
http://freewayblogger.blogspot…..under.html
that girly man John Adams weighs in
Letter to Abigail Adams (July 17, 1775)
good morning Scarecrow and Firedogs
Good morning from L.A.
What a great post, Scarecrow. If I was still teaching in a classroom it’d be the first thing read & discussed this a.m.
Paul Krugman goes to bat for David Iglesias, Carol Lam, et al in this morning’s NYT op-ed. Sure it will be quoted elsewhere online, but here’s the ending:
“In other words, the truth about that “overblown personnel matter” has only begun to be told. The good news is that for the first time in six years, it’s possible to hope that all the facts about a Bush administration scandal will come out in Congressional hearings — or, if necessary, in the impeachment trial of Alberto Gonzales.”
Not to be missed from the last thread:
newtonusr @ 269
Hey Scarecrow, Don’t be surprised if you get a call from Cheney’s office today.. I think Deadeye may offer you Gonzales’ job.
Re martial law, see the February 19 NYT editorial
(may be Times Select)
Scarecrow @ 30
i love kucinich, and admire his persistence, i really do.
but if it needs to be said, the point is: you don’t reward your enemies.
period.
Jay @ 36
If I get a call, I doubt it will be to offer me a job.
Please preface articles like these with a HUMOR or SATIRE label… I’m nervous enough as it is!
Scarecrow @ 30
Kucinich needs to realize this is not about him or any one candidate. It’s about Brand Dem, and any/all successful candidates will protect and defend that Brand. Faux News will assuredly do everything it can to damage Brand Dem; even their whining in the wake of the cancellation is affected for the purposes of damaging Brand Dem because they genuinely don’t care about the debate as much as they care about a vehicle to propel their anti-Dem propaganda.
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
The LA Times has an amazingly silly editorial this morning accusing Nancy Pelosi in particular and Congress in general of micromanaging the war:
Seventy percent of the American public want the troops home within a year and elected the democrats to make that happen, not to pass nonbinding resolutions. Bush is slowly bleeding America’s troops and treasure. The democrats, who lack a majority in the Senate (given Lieberman’s stance on the war) are desperately trying to put together a majority to stop it, and the LA Times is given them shit about how they are doing it. Where do these fools come from?
immanentize @
3
It’s not as if these are ideas that they haven’t already had and actually put into effect! In other words, might as well say it, since they’re already doing it.
Oh, and great post Scarecrow! Do you suppose sometime today we’ll also hear about the evidence that was lost in the Jose Padilla case? Pretty interesting when evidence goes MIA!
CNN highlighting Time magazine/Mike Duffy story in which they describe Cheney as “the Administration’s enemy within.” Dick should avoid going near buses today.
Scarecrow @ 30
Funny, I like Kucinich, even when I don’t agree with him, I like Kucinich.
Wigwam @ 43
They come from the new editorial bent as imposed by Tribune, which now owns the L.A. Times. As a result, Times op-ed page has officially sucked for quite a while now IMO.
Ann in AZ @ 45
My guess is the MSM won’t cover it. Glenn Greenwald has covered this, and we can spotlight his posts using the Spotlight link
suncatcher @ 24
Sorry I missed that. I think it would have given me the giggle fits
ya know crow, I could have had a stroke before I realized you were all snarky and stuff
/will be mailing to you my cardiologists bill for this checkup
Great dark post, Scarecrow.
fyi– The Shooter just finished his speech at A*P*C’s conference to rousing applause, General Don Sheppard and Tzipi Livni up next on cspan2.
Before we spotlight:
embarrassing
two R’s, two S’s
Speaking of Israel:
Ball-gags are not considered proper diplomatic attire.
-GSD
Where are my manners.
Scarecrow your writing is getting better and better. Is it wrong for me to laugh out loud in between being horrified by these proposals?
Skating so close to the truth, using actual quotes from the administration…you totally nailed it.
Keep up the good work!!
Imagine if Dwight Eisenhower had been forced to adhere to a congressional war plan in scheduling the Normandy landings or if, in 1863, President Lincoln had been forced by Congress to conclude the Civil War the following year. This is the worst kind of congressional meddling in military strategy.
Imagine if Dwight Eisenhower had decided to invade Iceland instead of liberating Europe.
-GSD
Fox is in the business of making money, and the method they have found most successful is to spin the news faster than a Maytag washer against anything and anyone to the left of Short Ride Joe.
Avoiding Fox is not about avoiding debate with those with whom you disagree politically; it’s about not giving them large amounts of money and viewers.
Immanentize!!!
OldCoastie @
29
Good point!
egregious — I’ve seen embarassment and embarrassment — I want the definitive spelling. Dictionary anyone? RBG agrees with you.
angie @ 52
this is a very hard thing to listen to.
insanity that threatens ALL the people of the ME and beyond.
Scarecrow @ 60
my word web gives it two r’s
ahhhh, The Little Talking Point That Could – everyone loves the story of the plucky, determined understudy; standing in the wings, ever ready for it’s chance to shine in the spotlight – just imagine, if “slow bleed” hadn’t broken it’s legs . . .*g*
Scarecrow at 14 I was hoping to get the copy of the Constitution with Cheney’s hand written notes on it
707!
Scarecrow!
HAH! Finished my coffee 1st today.
Earlier, I had to settle for the telly while my honey was on the toobz, and what did I find? cheeknee LIVE on C-Span 2 at AIPAC, singin’ his regular song – nothing changed, except he got standing o’s for stuff that almost made me lose my coffee.
Then I come here, find FDL’s loading v-e-r-y slowly this a.m., eek, and am greeted by your, um, cruel joke.
Seriously, thank you! As long as that awful man keeps preaching his gospel, we need to have clear voices like yours to counter the lies.
I love your stuff, even when you scare me witless. You’re all-too accurate in sketching in the real aims of certain highly-placed evildoers…
Keep up the good work!
Fred X. Quimby @ 40
Hey Scarecrow?
Fred’s got a point. This has that “War of the Worlds” potential to really scare last night’s dinner out of people, if you get my drift.
Maybe you should put “satire” labels all over it?
Dictionary.com: No results found for embarassment.
Did you mean embarrassment (in dictionary) or Embarassment (in encyclopedia)?
I see that’s about as clear as mud. It seems dictionary.com has a misspelling of its own. Under “Embarassment” in the encyclopedia, everything is spelled with two R’s.
So the vote is in: 2 R’s, 2 S’s. A RailRoad car hit a SteamShip and they were both embaRRaSSed is how I learned it.
Fox “News” is so pre-Nov 7.
It should more correctly be labelled Foxenquirer. Tabloidization of cable newsiness nearly complete.
And question for Mr. Hagel. You’re running as an anti-war Republican? Yet you proudly tout your pro-Bush voting record–despite the reality we’re less safe, less secure in our homes, deeper in national and personal debt, shrinking housing values, less healthy, less educated, less knowledgeable, less competitive in the global economy, totally discredited as the world’s sole super power. Arguably we live in America’s Dark Age. What’s to be proud about that?
Reality, I guess Hughes and Matalin and their ilk would say that best: it’s so pre-9/11.
It is hard to listen to, selise @ 61.
It is eerie how alike the language and rhetoric that is used by this administration and Livni are.
;(
GSD @ 56
OK, THAT DID give me the giggle fits! Thanx
looseheadprop @ 65
The tip off is in the first five words. And besides, if I add even one word, such as “SNARK” I would exceed the limit! Jane made me do this. ;)
Marie Roget @ 48
Agreed. Strangely, they allow a remarkably good set of letters to the editor.
http://209.161.33.50/dictionary/embarrassment
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary entry for embarrassment
Thanks for the mordant satire. As several comments have noted it is all too frighteningly real already.
Better than most DC journalists:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/embarass
http://209.161.33.50/dictionary/embarass
Scarecrow @ 71
Howabout a watermark background? Can wordpress do that?
egregious @ 66
I see that’s about as clear as mud. It seems dictionary.com has a misspelling of its own. Under “Embarassment” in the encyclopedia, everything is spelled with two R’s.
With all humility, I accept my embarrassment. Refresh. Apologies to RBG, whom I embarassed repeatedly.
So the vote is in: 2 R’s, 2 S’s. A RailRoad car hit a SteamShip and they were both embaRRaSSed is how I learned it.
Scarecrow, I hadn’t had my coffee yet. I’m traumatized.
Scarecrow!
Great stuff! Especially electrifying right after I blundered into a live cheeknee at AIPAC, complete with standing o’s for all his nonsense, on C-Span 2.
Hey. FDL was really slow loading for me this a.m., and then ate my 1st comment. just sayin…
*readjusts foil hat*
RBG @ 74
Rubbing it in, again?
testing
well, that’s nice.
2 earlier comments got swallowed up by the toobz.
go figure…
Adie @ 82
Try refreshing the page(using your browser) rather than refreshing the comments
Wigwam @ 71-
My theory is the Times still allows many opposite povs in the letters in the same manner that a pressure cooker allows a small amount of steam to escape from its lid…
Thanks. I did! But will again. No big deal, but I WAS ever-so-proud of getting Scarecrow’s name correct this a.m. *adjusts foil hat*
Very funny, Scarecrow! I guess space limits prevented your including the new restrictions on the first amendment. I found this document: “Freedom of speech is very dangerous in these perilous times. Anti-American speech helps the enemy. The President shall be empowered to prohibit and punish any form of communication that he deems to be un-American, unpatriotic, and unsupportive of his initiatives, person, or policies.”
Anyone have a railroad steamship for the embarrassment of commitment? I can never do it without a dictionary.
oops! there they are, in all their, -um-, glory.
I’m gonna go back & read some better comments.
These days, I’m not worth nothin’. *sniffle*
Gonzo, you’re doing a heckuva job.
-Chimpligula
Adie @ 85
Good morning Adie. ;)
i think i oughtta go apply as a stenographer in the just-a-department….
Scarecrow @ 10,
It’s really expensive to comply with these new rules. I had to go online and pay for a copy of my birth certificate from NM. $17 for that, $10 for shipping, $10 for rush shipping, almost 40 bucks.
With a spouse in a nursing home and a minor child, every penny counts.
And then the idiot woman in the Welfare office said, “Oh, so this is what a Mexican birth certificate looks like. WHere’d you learn to speak English so well?” God. I patiently explained to her that NM IS A DAMN STATE.
Per the LA Times, the U.S. is now considering a fallback strategy:
Remember the “death squads” of El Salvador?
Hi fella! u been just waitin’ like a big ole spider, eh? thas’ o.k.
terrific post. no, really. terrify-ific.
Scarecrow – lhp nails it with the H.G. Wells analogy – it’s really that good
Dorothy Thompson
Margot @ 92
That’s really sad. I’m from New Mexico, too, and you’re right; lot’s of people don’t know it’s a state. But no matter what, no one deserves to be treated that way.
Thanks for the laugh Scarecrow.
cbl—Per yr quote:
Bush and Cheney have scared millions into demoralization with nothing at all.
I would like to see Congress eliminate from the military budget all funding for recruitment. All funding usually appropriated for recruitment should instead be redirected to the care of injured soldiers and vets.
If W’s war in Iraq is so obviously just and noble, the Dept. Of Defense shouldn’t need to recruit. Volunteers will flock to the military-starting of course with the College Republicans.
Adie @ 94
All I said was “good morning.” It is not safe here. ;)
;->
egregious @ 98
Until Joe Wilson pointed out they had nothing at all.
I’m pretty sure complaining about genetically modified foods; for example; rice grown with human dna, violates the new constitution. Something about ‘denying pursuit of livelihood and normal flow of commerce thus assisting tewwowists.’
Oh, and questioning whether writing about ten year old virgins in cages with ‘deflowering’ bears constitutes child pornography or not.
That definately is illegal to question in the new ‘Scooterized’ constitution.
Scarecrow @ 60
Wiki says 2 r’s.
Just like live-print form of “Cheers”.
Love this place.
Bloomberg News Current report: Preident Bush is bringing his America Cares Message To Guatemala.
egregious @ 35
Notice the reference to Kevin Kiley near the end of the article. Where have we heard that name before?
oh heck. depends.
my copy of repubnikan-ese says it’s “embareassment”
Blue Dido @
86
Recall the Appeals Court ruling last week holding that Wash D.C. cannot pass its gun control laws. The Court (Judges appointed by Reagan, Bush I and Bush II) effectively interpreted the 2nd Amendment to read as follows:
Scarecrow @ 96
Perhaps ‘New Mexico’ hasn’t been mentioned on ‘The Apprentice’ or a ‘Friends’ rerun or ‘America’s Next Top Model’ recently.
It’s sort of a foreign word implying ‘chasms’ and ‘outgrowths’ and ‘formations’ and ’staggeringly’ and ‘light’ and, and, and… I mean who needs those words when all we do is navigate aluminum tunnels between office and television and fridge and mall (sorry for early morning ’social sarcasm’).
Speaking of ‘words’ I really must remember how to spell ‘definitely’ properly i.e. ‘above post.’
hackworth @ 106
Saw/heard part of speech last week.
Sounded exactly like hizn daddy, just as sin-cere:
“Message: I care.”
=
“I came here to say I care.”
blergh! i mean goodgawd, NOone’s that stoopid!
Margot @ 92
OMFG! Spew alert next time, please.
I was ready to get my protesting shoes on and hit the streets. I could just imagine mass demostrations. But since they are trickling it out, not many are paying attention.
It would have been nice to have a link to that video in which Bush said, it would be easier if it was a dictorship. Here is the url for the transcript.
Newsday
Transition of Power: President-Elect Bush Meets With Congressional Leaders on Capitol Hill
Aired December 18, 2000 – 12:00 p.m. ET
GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there were going to be some times where we don’t agree with each other. But that’s OK. If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.
Oh, but NM is getting SUCH a lot of national attention these days. . .
embarrassment
but
harassment
suncatcher—I don’t see your link
Wigwam@93
Such a strategy, based in part on the U.S. experience in El Salvador in the 1980s, is still in the early planning stages and would be adjusted to fit the outcome of the current surge in troop levels, according to military officials and Pentagon consultants who spoke on condition of anonymity when discussing future plans.
Excellent Propaganda Reporting from LA Times.
It will inspire some letters to the editor.
Another horrible plan for more killing and internecine murders.
Should work even better in Iraq than it did in Central America. Thanks, Dubya for your America Cares message.
With apologies for the interruption: In trying to email Rep. Waxman’s office, I ran into the road block of not living in his district, which prevented step two, typing the message. Any tips?
Scarecrow@109: and of course Ari Fleischer already got a head start, more than five years ago (late Sept. 2001), on the doctrine that “all Americans need to watch what they say” because of course free speech aids and supports global terrorism.
So really, who needs the first & second amendments? Habeas corpus is already dead; the right to a speedy trial is easily denied. That whole Bill of Rights—what a waste of time.
From Joe Conason in Salon:
egregious @ 116
It shows up if you click my name, don’t know why. But here it is.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA…..nd.01.html
If Bush ran around Washington tagging all the monuments with spray paint he’d probably be liked a lot better.
“Democrats who pursue this course are aiding al Qaeda’s agenda and undermining my authority,” the SAO said.
[visible to all]”I can see you but you can’t see me, hee hee!”[/visible to all]
too funny
Good morning all,
Sunny and warm in DC. Spring springing.
Totally OT. When I was a kid, I loved Disney’s “Scarecrow of Romney Marsh,” the story of a Welsh (?) Robin Hood but dressed in scary scarecrow mask and rags.
Scarecrow, is your handle taken from this character? Because if it is, this post reminds me so much of what the “Scarecrow of Romney Marsh” fought for.
Even as a kid, I guess I was a political junkie…
Would someone please spotlight this to Olbermann, who already did a great riff on crossing out most of the Bill of Rights? Everything exc quartering troops, iirc.
And conversely, can we get a link to that video? These are a matched set.
Margot @ 92
If that wasn’t so pitiful, it would be too funny! In fact, I couldn’t help but laugh. Sorry ’bout that. I know what it’s like to be required to come up with money for such things with limited resource, but the incongruity of someone with a job with the state being so ignorant that she doesn’t know NM is a state is just too much!
hackworth @
117
*But won’t they only be killing the bad guys?
-GSD
*Snark on
Pat -
use a zip code from his district BUT make sure you fully disclose that in the body of your e mail
and
Faxes (short and to the point) are much more likely to be read and taken in to account ;)
How can a ldader of another country like Bill Richardson run for President of the US?
-GSD
Hey scarecrow,
I didn’t know you had a new job at the Ministry of Truth. That explains everything! ;-)
OT– Kohr is rallying against the US talking to Iran. He is repeatedly charging that Iran is the enemy. He says that that Iran, Hizbollah, Hamas and AQ are on the march.
“They should be worried, not you or us. This is our time to act.”
Talks about critical efforts on Capital Hill and that bills will be introduced in the House and the Senate this week to further pressure on Iran and punish other countries if they deal with Iran. He says they will act to pressure companies to divest from Iran to cripple it.
Now he goes on to criticize Abbas– is he leading his people toward Hamas or toward America/Israel? If it is toward Hamas, the results will be continued isolation, financial sanctions, etc.
Now talks about the aid accord of 1997 wherein America gives financial aid to Israel. It expires this year; so they will lobby to get the US to continue its financial aid over the long term.
2.4 billion is what they are asking for this year.
Pat @ 118
I’ve encountered that with several congresscritters in the past. Finally, I just decided to blunder on ahead. Some of them will let you type in your own state. Some won’t. On the latter, I just made sure my zip was filled in correctly, and sometimes appended my state to the blank for street address. They seemed to go thru o.k., much to my surprise.
Be brave, ignore some of the directions, use yer inner creative genius, & have a go…. Good luck!
I figure all those committee-heads & such represent MORE than just their own back-yards, so the rest of us OUGHT to be able to write ‘em, eh? At least I do. Glad to hear someone else is stubborn too, heh. ;->
mc — I don’t recall that version of scarecrow. I always liked the one from Wizard of Oz.
RevDeb @
130
If I spend any more time here, I’ll probably need another job. I should check that out.
Scarecrow @ 134
I know the feeling, though the past week I have been working mostly at my “day job.” So much to do, so little time.
sorry if this has already been posted
.
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/6428562.html
angie @
131
Angie, who is Kohr?
-GSD
From McClatchy Newspapers:
angie @ 136
Along with Hagel and Fast Freddie Thompson..what is this, March of the Penguins?
I actually like and respect Ron Paul. He should leave the Republican Party.
-GSD
Adie @ 132
I think congressional leaders should take correspondence from ALL citizens.
When you look up “contact” info for these perps, C&P the city, state, zip of their local office. Use these as YOUR city, state, zip.
Put your real city, state, zip right on the same line as your own address. This ALWAYS works!
angie – blogronicity !
was just reading this -
Ron Paul – It Can Happen Here
GSD– Kohr is the Executive Director, A*P*C and they’re replaying Paul on cspan1 now.
heh, cbl!
I personally welcome Paul’s voice to the ‘contest’.
GSD @ 139
accept for the fact that we have to undo all the damage this administration has done to the country, I for one believe a monopoly of one party in all three branches of the government is damaging
I don’t know much about Paul’s record but if a man who fits the description you just posted is genuine, I for one wouldn’t mind at all if he won in 08
sorry to tell you firedogs but if we retain the monopoly for more then a presidency (two terms one democrat president should be fine I think)then we will be as corrupt as the republicans
this is a fact
power corrupts, absolute power corrupts ever more, and while I wish I wrote that I didn’t…just updated a bit
just got a call back from a very nice aide in my congressmember’s office wrt to waxman’s house committee on oversight hearing friday w/ valerie plame.
sadly, looks like a can’t get a pass (but, hoping marcy can!)… thought i’d post the info (time and location) i was given, since it’s not yet posted on the committee site and other firepups may be thinking of going:
i don’t know the exact size of the room, or the number seats that will be available to the public…
Angie,
Did Ron Paul appear at AIP*C?
-GSD
Frank Rich says Libby pardon is a slam dunk:
(NYTimes link behind TimesSelect firewall.)
Biodun @ 146
he’s being snarky, he’s saying no matter how depraved a pardon might be, the president is in fact depraved and does not avoid depravity he is attracted to it
Biodun @ 138
Right. Rove just passed along the comments. Nothing illegal there-totally innocent. He didn’t want those AGs fired, they were just doing their job. Just relaying complaints to the President, nothing else. Look, over there, a shiny thing!
It’s all Alberto’s fault.
GSD @ 145
not this morning– he’s on Washington Journal.
March 12th, 2007 at 7:42 am
angie at #131 says:
Well, let’s see; we’ve so depleted our troop strength that there are reports that the army is ordering injured soldiers to go to Iraq, Afghanistan is about to fall back into Taliban hands, our military equipment is badly overused and failing, and this jerk says a country of, what is it 88M should be worried about us. I suppose it doesn’t occur to him that Iran has easy access to what’s left of our standing army since they are right next door. Where do they get these fools?
Hagel just now saying he’ll make a decision on his future later this year.
Pat @ 118
There’s a mailbox place at 9800D Topanga Cyn. Zip 91311-4000. You should be able to get away with that. (Look up UPS stores and other mailbox places … I don’t think they check that closely, if the address is otherwise good.)
More from Frank Rich:
(NYTimes link behind TimesSelect firewall.)
omg, a year ago (3/13/6) we were all rightly concerned with McClatchy’s purchase of Knight-Ridder – worried what they would do with that pesky fact based reporting – I’m not giving them a Medal of Freedom just yet, but they have been doing some heavy lifting of late
USA’s
Iranian Missles Dog n Pony
al-Masri
John Doolittle
maybe a little exhale would be okay
NH
New Hamsher
Final installment from Frank Rich:
Adie @
132
, Pat @ 118
Fax ‘em — that’s my tip. If you have an eFax account it’s very easy. (efax.com) You can find your Congresspersons’ fax numbers at Congress.org.
You can also find info at Contacting Congress database.
Jane has a New Thread upstairs.
Adie @
82
I learned yesterday that A*P*C puts a comment into moderation if you spell it out.
angie @ 142
I just tuned into cspan1 to see Paul, and he lost me already by talking about how prolife he is and how the most important thing is to repeal Roe V Wade.
Why don’t they just add “except that nothing herein shall be deemed to limit the power of the Executive” at the end of every frakkin’ clause in the Constitution.
“They’re not really rules, they’re more like guidelines.”
Uh, Paul ain’t in favor of Roe v Wade, but will leave it up to the States.
;(
saw that Ann in AZ.
new thread guys
Puleeze come upstairs & save me from myself!
I’ve fallen and I can’t g-e-t u-p!
mc @ 148
Didn’t Rove first hear these complaints from reporters?
Some quotes/lines/talking points of our own:
“Let ‘em eat quail” (TRex. So perfect.)
“It’s an occupation, stupid.”
“And yes, let’s not forget the big picture: San Diego.” (Josh Marshall)
Monday Waxman hearing countdown: 94 hours until tipoff. (72 hours to MM tipoff?)
Aegregious @ 125
A small real player clip here of dictatorship quote by Bush. It’s at the bottom of the page.
Still looking for a better one.
March 12th, 2007 at 8:11 am
Biodun at #156 says:
Not to mention how clueless it sounds when juxtaposed against the damage done to our national security and freedom of speech. Seems to me to be imperative that a citizen be able to point out when the government is deceiving us, without threats or actual damage to himself, his family, or their means to earn a living.
suncatcher @ 166
Sorry, here’s url.
http://www.whatreallyhappened……y_911.html
Pat @
118
Pat, his committee has a web site and from there you can e-mail committee members. I would provide the link but am on the way out the door to meeting.
suncatcher @ 166
Youtube url to Bush dictatorship quote.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNo0_klKzis
why publish somethng like this? You damn near gave me a heart attack.
For all the latest news, hearings, legal filings and other essential documents on the Bush DOJ prosecutor firings, see:
“The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents.”
jim oconnor @ 99
Jim @ 99
That’s some logic there, hence it will never be accepted. I have a 15-yr old and have been fearful for several years about the recruiters and/or possible conscription.
Sorry for the delay in thanking Adie, PJ, and Lindy for their help — I’ve come to resent those pesky life interruptions that take time from FDL!
After reading your tips, I explained my problem and query to my 13-year-old: “Just use a different zip code,” he said.
go figure.
Hmmm….sounds like they should have just used the following. After all, why bother re-inventing the wheel on something so important as a new constitution, when someone else has already taken the time and effort to do all the work already:
Brilliant post and thanks for the references to the two justice articles.
Blesings and thanks,
OldCoastie @
16
I have a cartoon from gary Larson that has characterizations of people lying asleep in bed in hell, with the comment by one person to another:
” No, just go back to sleep, charlie, you were just dreaming, we are STILL in hell”
Seems rather appropriate now!
Scarecrow,
Re: NM, I didn’t yell at the lady, I hope I didn’t give that impression. I told her it was the state in between Texas and Arizona. Probably didn’t help but that’s all I said, honest!
Adie @
88
Adie, on your worst day you’re ten times better than most of us.
Jesus christ. Don’t scare me like that. I thought that they really were considering changing the constitution. Christ.
Don’t scare me like that. But when you read the Patriot act and Military Tribunal Bill it looks like they’ve already taken our rights. I am so glad the Democrats took over. At least they can hold Bush’s feet to the Fire. We don’t have a big enough majority in the senate to do much. I hope Bush ends up in Prison along with the rest of his bunch. Condi needs an orange jumpsuit too. I hate these bastards. They are going to launch another “false flag” attack. I’ll suspect Haliburton will be instrumental in it. Something about Dubai is that they want port access. Haliburton will deliver whatever it is they need. This shit is crazy. With their backs against the wall Cheney will stop at nothing to save his ass.
Jayzus…okay, I KNOW that was snark, knew it when I first began reading it.
So tell me – why did a shiver run through me – and why did tears come to my eyes?