
Q. How can you tell when a Republican is lying?
A. Their lips are moving.
Well, today on Hardball, Andrea Mitchell let fly with one big, fat whopper of a lie. Of course, this should surprise no-one, given her previous history of fabrication, obfuscation, and prevarication on the topic of the Plame leak and Libby trial. Still, to watch her not even bat an eye as she pulled this one out of her ass, well, it's not so much remarkable that it happened as it is how easily and swiftly this one keeled over and died once it was exposed to the world outside Mrs. Mitchell's rarified NeoCon colon.
To wit:
Journamalism
Andrea Mitchell, Hardball just now:
- They're going to try to really tamp this down and appeal to the polling which indicates that most people think, in fact, that he should be pardoned. Scooter Libby should be pardoned.
CNN poll says 18% support pardon.
Ah, modern journalism.
-Atrios 6:44 PM
Now, with old-line conservatives, you could at least count on them to be able to handle simple math problems. They may have been a bunch of stingy, war-mongering, racist dickheads, but in theory at least, they would know the difference between 20% (a minority by any standard) and 70% (the clear majority). That's the spread between the "Free Scooter" (18%) folks and the "Lock up the dirty bastard!" (69%) crowd. Now, how Mrs. Mitchell got "most people" out of that, I haven't a clue. Maybe it was "most people" who she shared a cab with this morning, or "most" of the "people" on her housekeeping staff, but "most people" in this country clearly understand the charges against Mumia-Scoot and think he should pay with his freedom.
But onward! Yes, on to that paragon of mendacity, Matt Drudge. You all know, he's one of my favorite gay GOP collaborators, right? No rumor is too baseless or sordid for Drudge to run with. He's the Reich Wing's main source of "news". He runs the most heavily trafficked site on the web, right?
It seems that one of Mr. Drudge's biggest and most egregious falsehoods (and there are SO MANY to choose from) is that he's inflating some of his traffic figures by about, oh, 2000 percent.
I'll let the folks at ValleyWag (a kind of Silicon Valley Media Matters) explain it all for you:
The Drudge Report may be the most successful independent news site on the web. Matt Drudge's decade-old site sets the news agenda, and not only for conservative platforms such as Fox News. The fedora-wearing eccentric's property, considering it's largely put together by just two people, has an impressive audience: more than 1.2m unique visitors from the US in February, according to Comscore. But those devotees may not check the site quite as often as Matt Drudge would claim.
But-! But-! Matty wouldn't LIE to us, would he?!
Why yes. Yes, he would.
A site's 'meta refresh' setting is a web page's meta tag used to specify a time-interval after which a web browser will automatically refresh the page. Most sites leave it to readers to call for the latest version of a page; but popular news sites often assume that visitors will leave their pages open, and ensure the page is reloaded so that the latest headlines show.
Nothing wrong with that — except that the Drudge Report is automatically refreshed way more often than the frequency of new stories would justify. At 20 times an hour, Drudge is twice as aggressive in his use of this tactic as the next news site we checked.
What's the effect on the site's traffic? Each refresh counts as a new pageview, whether or not the user is watching, or the window remains visible. And there must be plenty of these inattentive readers: one site owner I know experienced a 20% jump in traffic after he introduced, as an experiment, an automatic refresh every half hour. Drudge loads anew every three minutes.
So, when Matt Drudge trumpets his gigantic traffic — he recently passed the 20m pageview a day mark — take that claim much like one should parse one of his headlines. There's some truth to it — Drudge is indubitably popular — hyped up to the point of misdirection.
(Emphasis mine.)
"But, TRex," you may be asking yourselves, "What's it matter if that sad little man cooks his books like Jeff Skilling? Who cares?"
Two words, chickens! Advertising. Revenues.
I know. I'm just shattered by this news. Matt Drudge, that harmless old queen is a serial, self-aggrandizing liar? Wow. You sure coulda fooled me. He's always seemed to me to be such a nice boy, not like some kind of majorly conflicted, closeted, self-hating fuck-up at all. No, really. I swear I mean that in the nicest possible way.
And finally, tonight, an update from the Coulter Wars. From Editor and Publisher:
Published: March 12, 2007 2:40 PM ET
NEW YORK An Illinois daily that's asking readers to help it decide whether or not to keep columnist Ann Coulter is getting loads of input."I expected a pretty good response, but I'm not sure I was expecting people to be THIS fired up about it," said Mike Matulis, editorial page editor of The State Journal-Register in Springfield, Ill.
He told E&P this afternoon that 1,357 votes have been cast since a yes-or-no Web poll began yesterday, with 737 (54.3%) wanting the paper to get rid of Coulter and 620 (45.7%) wanting to keep her.
Another 48 reached The SJ-R by phone, with 28 anti- and 20 pro-Coulter messages recorded. And Matulis is currently sifting through more than 100 e-mail messages with comments about Coulter.
While those numbers might indicate to Andrea Mitchell that "most people" want the paper to keep conservatism's bleached banshee on, the rest of us can see that a majority want her gone. Still, 54% versus 45%, that's just a little too close for my taste, gang.
You know what to do.
Mr. Matulis's email address is: mike.matulis@sj-r.com
And for the full list of papers who are still clinging to their illusion that Coulter is a voice of consequence in today's media environment, you know to go to Media Matters, right?
ATTACK!!
ATTACK!!
ATTAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!
Coulter is probably expecting things to die down this week with only eight papers having dropped her column. I think we can do much, much better than that. Annie, your moment is over. We're just helping you leave the room gracefully before you have another vodka martini and start dry-humping the banquettes and moaning Joe McCarthy's name over and over.
And remember kids, the closer the newspaper is to your home town, the more likely the editors will listen to you. Hell, even offer to subscribe if they'll drop her. They'll hear you on that one. Newspapers everywhere are starving for subscribers. To my thinking, it would be worth the annual subscription fee to know that I had a part in scrubbing that syphillitic old bat from America's Op Ed pages FOREVER!
Goodbye, Annie. May the rest of your days be spent in loneliness, misery, and obscurity. I swear I mean that in the nicest possible way. Really.
Amen.
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ATTACK – ATTAACCKK – AAATTTTAAAACCCCKKKK!!!
TRex!
Ha! Waterman Monte Verde Pelikan
TRex !!
Homonyms!!
(see last thread)
Mumia-Scoot
707
epu’d re: C S-S
I have the Dover edition of the complete works of Rameau for the harpsichord. It’s not mentioned in the Dover edition, but Saint-Saens did the editing. It’s a very poor edition for use on the harpsichord because the majority of the (rather complex) ornaments are left out. Camille decided that all those frilly ornaments sounded silly on the piano.
Our Lady of the Sub-Prime needs some tutoring in the math.
Late Night FDL, where you don’t have to inflate your visitor traffic. To begin with, you’re 60 feet tall.
So, how was Camille Saint-Saens supposed to fit in with Matt Drudge, TRex? Boggles the mind.
Maybe her misunderstanding of numbers explains how her husband could say the economy was in good shape, until recently.
those cons have that different math
Those last two from Hotflash were actually mine oops!
My favorite sentence from the ValleyWag link:
Drudge loads anew every three minutes.
The new FDL “Speaker’s Bureau” initiative is such a great idea to combat this nonsense. Maybe it’s because I’m so missing Molly already and want to make sure future generations know her writings, but I had this random thought about a name for the “Bureau”
How about….The Ivins Institute? This is where liberal commentators get trained. That name seems quite appropiate.
Now I know why Raw Story auto refreshes. :) It’s set to refresh every 350 seconds.
TSF – OfT, but in the last thread you said you had figured out Krog. What’s his/her deal?
HotFlash @ 6
my Rameau complete edition is from Lea Pocket Scores, and has all the fru-fru and prallentrillers (or their French equivalents) left in. But the music font is so teeny, I can’t read it anymore. I think Hot Flash wins the obscure Saint-Saens award.
TRex- might I suggest an edit? “Goodbye, Annie. May the rest of your days be spent in loneliness, misery, and obscurity. I swear I mean that in the nicest possible way.” hahaha…
Another great post, TRex. I really don’t know how you do it.
Hey, gang. Busy night here. Running around.
*pant, pant*
How is everyone?
“Goodbye, Annie. May the rest of your days be spent in loneliness, misery, and obscurity.”
I vote for “… and self-abuse.”
It says something about General Electric’s corporate culture that no one sees anything wrong with two NBC reporters being involved in a national security scandal. I mean GE is a major defense contractor, is it too much to ask their most visible employees to respect national security.
Ed*ard Teller @ 8
Yeah, I came here expecting the last movement of the “Organ” (3rd) Symphony and all I get is more repub lies!
Evening Trex!
Evening Trex, Hi Pups. Been trying to make up some billables – anything exciting happen since about noon PDT?
UptownNYChick @ 10
Everything changed after 9/11. Even jeebus and math.
(
Plagiarizedborrowed from a previous commenter.)TRex, I had a question about syndication math earlier today:
TeddySanFran @
103
OT, but . . . .
Doesn’t Mrs. Plame testify tomorow? When, where and in front of whom?
Also, are there not hearings going on in regards to the USA firings?
Bleached banshee? So the carpet doesn’t match the drapes? Nevermind. I don’t wanna know.
Ew.
Mrs. Wilson testifies Friday, if I remember correctly.
Hi, TRex! Chomp chomp chomp!
By the way, a commenter down in the old thread dropped off this tidbit from Kossack and WP journo EZ Writer: BUSH WANTED TO FIRE ALL 93 US ATTORNEYS.
Suzanne @ 28
Thanks, Suzanne.
Valley Girl @
17
I’ve got a big head. And little arms.
TRex @ 18
My tummy hurts.
Someone (NextAgenda?) linked to this today.
It’s a video of a correspondent interviewing Coulter and calling her on her lies.
Surprise!! The correspondent is from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
TRex, great break-dancing move there on that YouTube ;-)
Alison @ 33
This is pure gold.
TeddySanFran @ 25
Well, if they included her column one day a week, and she might be published three or four times a week by other papers, at maximum, then her column income might be $1500/wk. I think $5/day sounds more reasonable than $5/week for multiple columns (even I wouldn’t write for those rates).
Beyond that, isn’t it funny that Madam Coulter is worth only five bucks a day? There are crack whores in the Bronx who do better than that.
TeddySanFran @ 25
That means that her syndicate is literally giving her away so they can pretend she’s more “mainstream” than she really is. Note that most of her papers are in small towns that are trying to stretch their news budgets; Coulter’s sugar daddies are subsidizing her and taking advantage of the small-town paper’s need for cheap op-ed filler.
The same principle was used to jump-start Rush Limbaugh’s national career, only it was the small rural radio stations to which he was given away at first.
80% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
This is just so cocktail-esque –
It’s as if she heard it last nite at some neocon soiree and hadn’t bothered to check whether it was true (gasp!) or even made any sense (which it doesn’t). If there’s such a clamor in the polling appealing for a pardon, what’s to “tamp down?” She worked her way, not too cleverly, to the point she was paid to make, and then repeated it:
Let’s just laugh out loud at her when she next uses the phrase “in fact.” Paging Cliff Schecter….
PS Shame on David Gregory for letting Our Lady of the Sub-Prime slide that one over the plate.
no offense to anyone.
But, hellllllooooooooo? male/female? who cares?
$5.00 is a lot for poor people; not these people.
ptooey!
Well, sheee-yit. Seems like I could under-cut the old cow by offering them columns for free!
How was Ann Coulter able to be syndicated to 100 newspapers, What with the much vaunted left wing lock on all the media?
Surely the VLWC wouldn’t have allowed her one column inch. How on earth did she slip through?
Better call KOS and get the Nazi stormtroopers to work, the left-wing moonbat Goebbels machine must be broken.
-GSD
triple dog dare ya, TRex, triple dog dare.
PW – bingo!
Am I wrong, or did Nancy & Harry betray every American who voted for Dems last November?
Make sure you let your right-wing nutty friends know that the US is BFF with Muammar El Ghaddaffy these days.
We’re even planning on giving him nukes!
Georgie and Moe sitting in a tree.
-GSD
newtonusr @ 45
you’re not wrong.
Okay, gang. Off to the grocery store.
See you in about an hour.
Play nicely, now.
Why the hell is Andrea Mitchell even purporting to cover this story?
Can’t we set up a bright-line rule here? If you’ve been interviewed by Fitzgerald in that very case, you’re not allowed to cover it.
I don’t want to hear from Andrea; I don’t want to hear from Woodward; I don’t want to hear from Timmeh, about this case.
Except from the witness stand, or before the Congress.
***!!!Raawwwrrr!!!***
***!Chomp! !Chomp! !Chomp!***
Hola, Sr Reyes, y todos los perros del fuego.
so.
WaPoO chatz tomorrow:
Ex-NYTimeser now WaPo National Political Correspondent Anne Kornblut at 11:15am Eastern.
WaPo Associate Editor Karen DeYoung at Noon Eastern: The War Over The War
WaPo Opinionist Eugene Robinson at 1pm Eastern
Questions, as usual, may be submitted at any time.
angie @ 47
Damn them. Damn them all. Where are the Lamonts of yesteryear?
Noodle nuts Bush is going to leave America with another Bush recession.
Housing market plunge?
-GSD
RE: the vote tonight –
Just talked w/a guy with his ear to the ground; the vote is NOT a green light to go to war with Iran. It’s just the Democrats making the appropriate talk-tough noises while at the same time pushing the Iraq-withdrawal legislation.
In other words: They’re distracting the conservatives with the Iran talk while moving to defund Iraq. A misdirection play.
In God We Trust. . . . .just not all the time:
http://www.canada.com/topics/n…..mp;k=64770
Teddy- what’s the news on posting of the Lie address? Sorry, I didn’t save your link, or I would go look for myself :(
On a good note,
!Mike Stark ees back, baby!
Hees website, callingallwingnuts.com, disappeared mysteriously last week after he revealed the entire blogsfera a la derecha to be a bunch of bedwetters. Good to see heem back online.
!Viva Sr. Stark!
Phoenix Woman @ 54
That being said, it wouldn’t hurt to show your displeasure (and some opinion polls) to Harry and Nancy. Just to make sure they know you’re there.
angie @ 40
Umm, did I specify? :)
Simply illustrating Ms. Coulter’s relative worth in this society without artificial assistance to her career from the wingnut welfare system….
!El Gato Negro! @ 57
Woo-hoooo!
Valley Girl @
56
unchanged. No posting yet of the most recent address, by katymine’s Congressman. No RGJoe.
Stalled.
Oh come, now, Mr. TRex. I’m sure the esteemed
Mrs. GreenspanAndrea Mitchell just misspoke.I’m sure that by “most people” she meant “most people in the White House”, or “most people in the Office of the Vice President”.
Or maybe she meant to say “most people inside the Beltway wearing kneepads that rely on cocktail weenies for their daily caloric intake.”
See? Easy mistake.
TRex >
Ya know that might be the seed of an interesting idea.
Instead of a FDL Speakers Bureau (or in addition to…) there could be a Progressive NetRoots Writers Bureau that syndicated good writing bloggers in some form of round robinness. Ship out say three columns a week on some topic of interest that is “hot” giving all these small papers a good deal & their readers a dose of different thoughts.
Some of these writers might even “catch fire” & syndicate on their own, thereby extending the spread of sane progressive political thought
Just typing out loud here…
“Once you start a project, amazing people start to join” – Major Nate Allen (U.S. Army)
Andrea Mitchell smells like spleen steer-it
bonkers @
13
I endorse this naming idea.
punaise @ 64
Nothing like the smell of testosterone in the morning? Smells like… victory?
Teddy- Thanks. Meanwhile, I found the site via google. The page doesn’t seem to have the addresses up in chronological order, and for the underinformed there’s no way of telling how many of the radio addresses have actually been posted. Who is katymine’s congressman?
edit p.s. and when you click on the links, and read the articles, they don’t contain any DATE information. That is really frustrating.
montag @ 59
That’s exactly it.
The biggest irony of the right-wing press is just how heavily (and secretly) subsidized it is. Matt Drudge, Rush Limbaugh, you name it: None of these people would be known today if not for years upon years of wingnut welfare.
Rupert Murdoch has run the Weekly Standard at a loss for years. Same goes for the New York Post. FOX didn’t start to turn a profit until about three years ago — and now that their ratings are slipping just as they’d hoped to renegotiate their ad-revenue contracts, their future is suddenly not as rosy as it seemed.
And of course Sun Myung Moon’s lost at least $2 BILLION on the Washington Times over the past quarter-century. (This at a time when newspapers, even in decline, typically have to be really badly managed not to turn at least a 10% profit every year.)
daCascadian @ 63
Now that’s an idea!
We may finally have the goods on Chimpy. Will the evangelicals and Fundies finally abandon him now?
Bush man-handles his carrot in public.
-GSD
Phoenix Woman @ 54
All due respect to your guy, but while ChimpCo plays chess, Nancy & Harry play hopscotch. Again, and again, and again.
TeddySanFran @ 65
Don’t think she’d like the word, “institute” after her name. Too much like the wingnuts.
I think she’d like “Invitational Barbecue and Fact-Finding.”
That Washington Post article is now up:
Firings Had Genesis in White House
Ex-Counsel Miers First Suggested Dismissing Prosecutors 2 Years Ago, Documents Show
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01818.html
Phoenix Woman @ 68
Si, I enjoy making thees very point whenever some weengnutbar starts een on why more liberals are no represented on la televisor.
Es verdad.
!El Gato Negro! @ 74
“Liberals” has a bad vibe these days. Can’t you substitute “Sane People”?
montag @ 72
If folks are serious about this, I’d suggest talking to her family and close friends, both for legal reasons and also to get their thoughts on the matter. I’ve seen well-meaning folks try something like this, and then when a reporter calls the family and friends to get a comment, they haven’t heard a thing about it. In one case, they were extrememly put out, and asked that the name be changed.
And since Jane’s in Austin for SXSW, perhaps she could make a few calls?
…but while ChimpCo plays chess…
OMFGato
I just laughed so hard I coughed up a hairball.
Eet looks like Chris Matthews.
so.
Rob Zuber @
73
Abu Gonzales’ chief of staff resigned yesterday apparently. Next up on the rung is Alberto. The rug is getting pulled out from under that enabling toady but quick.
Hope you get a better lawyer than Ted Wells, Alberto.
Too bad they won’t have Chief Justice Harriet Miers handling the case.
-GSD
GSD – I hope he has the exact same friggin lawyer – with the same result.
Oh, yes, the Ivins family must be consulted.
Hey GSD- is that info in the WayPOO article (haven’t had time to read) or did you find it elsewhere? If so, linky? I know this might ruin your clean style, but…
Peterr @ 76
I don’t think anyone’s particularly serious about this–her will, I think, specified distributions to her long-time companion, family and The Texas Observer.
I’m simply suggesting that, if such were to come about, Molly would find “Institute” far too stuffy for her tastes.
Too bad they won’t have Chief Justice Harriet Miers handling the case. -GSD
Alberto Gonzalez ees the nicest, kindest, most wonderful person I’ve ever met…
[/harriet]
Teddy- note upstairs- I checked the site. Frustrating bec. it doesn’t give dates of addresses or roster of addresses. Am I missing something?
!El Gato Negro! @ 83
[laughing]
So much wrong here, but focus for a moment on “believes informally.” WTF does that mean?
And those TWO “specific”s in the last sentence mean exactly this: Chimpy told AbuG to fire them all, generally speaking.
It’s kind of fun that Harriet Miers is going to be in the news again, huh?
LoudounLib @ 87
Even funnier if she gets a subpoena….
Valley Girl @ 81
If you are referring to Sampson’s resignation, that is in the WashPo article:
The Gonzales aide in charge of the dismissals — his chief of staff, D. Kyle Sampson — resigned yesterday, officials said, after acknowledging that he did not tell Justice officials about the extent of his communications with the White House, leading them to provide incomplete information to Congress.
Valley Girl @ 84
I believe the addresses are posted in reverse chronological order. I search on RGJoe’s real name just to be sure.
LoudounLib @ 86
I hope she resurrects her blog, it was just peachy!
bonkers @
13
LoudounLib @ 87
Her fashion sense and makeup skills make all this treason worthwhile.
Rob Zuber- Many thanks for doing my reading for me. I must be tired this eve. Yes, that is what I meant.
TeddySanFran @ 93
That, too!
newtonusr @ 71
Nah. There are a number of things on which Bush has lost big recently — such as the forced withdrawal of Bolton — but the press chooses not to mention them because they’re still propping up Dear Leader.
Look at the Iraq withdrawal bill. They wouldn’t be seriously pushing that if they were going to roll over on Iran.
Thanks Teddy, re the reverse chronological order. I also checked HoJo’s real name.
p.s. I now see that some of the postings do give the dates. I just happened to look at a few that don’t.
TeddySanFran @ 90
that’s odd: a search under “Spineless Back-stabbing Contemptible Scumbag Whore” turned up nothing.
I’m going to have to call the Avon lady so I can get that some of that blue eyeshadow Harriet wears.
No, montag @ 59– you are a kind person and I meant no harm.
;)
g’nite all.
punaise @ 98
That’s because you didn’t include the keywords “right-wing,” “toady” and “bootlicker.”
omg
Miers’ emailing style shines right through here, doesn’t it? Presumably, WaPo deleted the smiley emoticons:
angie @ 100
W’all, I’ve been accused of a lot of things, but…. :)
BTW, Nightline’s website is going to have coverage of the Myan priests cleansing of Bush’s bad spirits from the archaeological site Iximche.
wonder if we can hire them in early Jan. 2008?
UptownNYChick @ 104
Shoot, where were they in 2000? :)
montag and punaise- you two are cracking me up. (Is that phrase still in use??)
So, are you folks putting some of this together.
Remember just how confident Rove was before the election? Sure, it may have been a game face, but it may also have been the feeling that they were going to game the system.
Close elections, disputed ballots, AG’s in the bag. It all equals “The Math” that Rove claimed to have had on his side.
-GSD
TeddySanFran @ 101
“things have been crazy with the cat show coming up and I just cannot get little Georgina to walk on a leash with the cowboy hat on.” Miers emailed.
Suzanne @ 99
Avon has trouble stocking it — Harriet uses up so much!
Oh, I am excited about the return of Harriet!!! Betcha watertiger can’t wait, either. She had such fun with the accessorizing, the jackets/sweaters, the shoes.
Happy Planet Pluto Day!
The opening line of that WaPo article sure sounds tasty: “The White House suggested two years ago that the Justice Department fire all 93 U.S. attorneys, a proposal that eventually resulted in the dismissals of eight prosecutors last year, according to e-mails and internal documents that the administration will provide to Congress today.”
Emails and internal documents are nice. I hear that prosecutors just *love* them.
Rob Zuber @ 73
John Solomon has a history of writing hit pieces on dems. He’s the same guy who worked for AP and tried to stir up a scandal on Harry Reid’s sale of a piece of land…and a few other pieces that I’ve seen. I’m reading this article carefully. I don’t trust the man.
montag @ 105
Maybe they can give Ted Koppel the Heimlich Manuever to dislodge the cocktail weenies and quails wings he has lodged in his cerebellum.
-GSD
Michael Scott @ 49
I remember the good old days when the standard was the appearance of conflict of interest was enough to remove one from such active coverage (Commentator was not so uncommon, but that they would be the primary covering the story?!? )positions in the media let alone actual conflicts of interests as we have seen in this case from many of these individuals that Fitzgerald spoke to. This is one of the elements of this case that has most infuriated me about the way the American press has handled their coverage.
Not only have they taken a decidedly hostile tone overall to Fitzgerald’s investigations but they have allowed those that were directly involved to cover this issue without comment nor criticism for conflict of interest. I mean given how much reporters hate to have to talk to the law to begin with in investigations let alone ones of this gravity it is rather hard to believe that the experience will not affect the way they cover it since they are human beings. Yet what have we seen but utter indifference to that notion.
What really pissed me off though was Woodward’s constant attacks on Fitzgerald as a “junkyard prosecutor” even before his own active involvement was disclosed. Once that came out he lost all credibility with me, because he was going out of his way to trash this investigation as a supposed third party observer instead of first party participant (with all the conflicts that come from such a position) as it was and that strikes me as a major betrayal of the supposed trust/bond between journalist and reader when it is revealed one has a direct role and therefore inherent conflict of interest.
The man who in times of popular excitement boldly and unflinchingly resists hot-tempered clamor for an unnecessary war, and thus exposes himself to the opprobrious imputation of a lack of patriotism or of courage, to the end of saving his country from a great calamity, is, as to “loving and faithfully serving his country,” at least as good a patriot as the hero of the most daring feat of arms, and a far better one than those who, with an ostentatious pretense of superior patriotism, cry for war before it is needed, especially if then they let others do the fighting.
– Carl Schurz, April, 1898
Union General during Civil War & US Senator March 12, 1877 – March 7, 1881
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Schurz
TeddySanFran @ 109
Calling Rachel Dratch…
GSD @ 70
I’d feel better about laughing at that photo if the Chimp wasn’t groping a young boy at the same time as he man-handled his carrot…
707, all y’all !!
Lindy @ 112
He might be offering up a scalp to the Dems. He’s been blasted for being a rightwing one trick pony.
-GSD
Lindy @ 112
Yep, but Dan Eggen has lead billing on the byline for this one. IIRC, Solomon’s hit pieces were solo jobs — perhaps because more reasonable folks would never sign on to them. I’m reading closely, but if there are documents and emails coming, it’s going to be hard to hide the truth.
Valley Girl @ 106
Yeah, but only among us cognoscenti. *wink*
Rob Zuber @ 89
Doesn’t that smell of firewalling and plausible deniability to you?
Sampson is named COS in September of 2005.
He’s named Deputy Chief of Staff and Counselor to the Attorney General in February 2005; is this part of normal transition post-election?
Bold mine — sure looks to me like cross-pollination from the White House pool to the DOJ. Was he the DOJ’s “political officer”?
Good God, there is so much smoke here, must be a fire.
And John Solomon is one of the two bylines on this WaPo — can you say “partisan hack”? If it looks this bad posted by a shill, imagine how REALLY BAD it is in actuality. Can only guess at what will come on Friday in the weekly dump…
neurophius @ 117
That’s the Attorney General!
-GSD
side note to TSF – glad to know that someone other than me says “all y’all!”
{swoon}
Yeah, John Solomon is an ass. I cringed when I saw the name. By the way, the NYT also has an article up:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03…..r=1&hp
Justice Department officials said Monday that they only learned recently about Mr. Sampson’s extensive emails and memos with Ms. Miers about the prosecutors. The communications were discovered Thursday when Mr. Sampson turned over the material to officials who were assembling documents in response to Congressional requests.
The documents did not provide a clear motive for the firings. Some suggested that department officials were dissatisfied with specific prosecutors, but none cited aggressive public corruption inquiries or failure to pursue voter fraud cases as an explicit reason to remove them.
GSD @ 113
Or take the sheep shears to his head… that mat of stuff on his head has made his brain oxygen-starved ever since 1979.
hey Scotian- nice to see/ hear you. I just added some paragraph breaks to your comment. Hope you don’t mind.
montag @
121
and the occasional incognito
Let’s just laugh out loud at her when she next uses the phrase “in fact.” Paging Cliff Schecter….
Tee hee.
My big sister had a boyfriend for a bit in college, and he was a jerk and a liar.
My mom said, after sis gave the guy the gate, that she always knew exactly when he was lying. It was whenever he started a sentence, “Well, to be perfectly frank, Mrs. XYZ…”
This is often the case. Liars often feel the need to state that they’re telling you the truth whilst doing the dirty deception deed. Pay attention to whenever Mrs. Greenscam uses the phrase “in fact.” Should be an interesting experiment.
GSD @ 77
What really puts the cherry on top is the reason given for wanting some of these guys fired – they weren’t prosecuting enough voter-fraud cases (meaning all those felons and other ‘ineligible’ voters who had descended upon the polls en masse to steer votes to Democrats)!
That is just too, too rich!
John Solomon, correct pronunciation: slummin’
Rayne @ 122
Absolutely. Fall Guy #2. :)
Do you think any of these guys are imagining Patrick Fitzgerald on their case? I think that’s why they’re turning over emails by the bushel!
TeddySanFran @ 125
Oh, oh. Petey is in trouble.
The dude, Iglesias was a hardcore fundie too. The Revolution is eating itself. The jig must be up now. Now everyone must know that no one is safe.
If this were Goodfellas the Leila intro would be playing now.
-GSD
Yes, Mrs. K8 — it’s her “tell.” Now we’ll know when she’s lying!
Chimpy’s easier: his mouth is open and sound is coming out.
Backstage at Fox News’s “Half Hour News Hour:”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARY9ka2o2J4
TeddySanFran @ 135
LOL!!!
And with Cheney, we know he’s lying ’cause his Jarvik 2000 is still pumping (or whatever his heart machine is called).
punaise and montag- so good to have the literati at FDL.
punaise @ 132
His first name is appropriate, too, as in “a” John….
This is the attempted firewall and cutout, but it’s also good reason to get him under oath on Capitol Hill: “Were you asked by anyone not to provide these communications, or was this coverup solely your own idea?”
GSD @ 123
707!
G’night Firepups :-)
Valley Girl @ 138
For every action…..Redstate is known for their illiteratti.
-GSD
g’nite double-ell !!
Wow. Gonzales is toast. Bush is going to have to throw him over the side — but if he does, Gonzales sings like a canary.
TeddySanFran @ 140
Yes, the rogue aid strikes again! Wonder if he’s as handsome and confident as Ollie North?
-GSD
TeddySanFran @ 140
GSD @ 143
How many of them lurking just thought, “huh, I don’t own no Illiteratti.”
No, he’s taking the heat off Rove by pointing at Miers. That’s my guess.
David Johnston of the NYT has a piece on the planned firings, too!
This is breaking wide open, folks.
Note on picture.
I have seen the original picture. It is from the 50s and she is spraying DDT in her house to kill flies.
Jeepers. How the hell did I miss this WaPo article way back?
Reads like a cast of our future overlords, got gooseflesh seeing Tasia Scolinos’ name in there. Gack!! Everything about Gonzales’ team was political; the DOJ under his leadership has NEVER been about crime, only the appearance of fighting it, a Potemkin village of polizei.
Eggen was the sole byline on this piece from 2005; wonder if Solomon was assigned to him on this latest piece as his “minder”…?
Here’s another WaPo piece from 2005 that frightens the hell out of me. Scroll down, when you see Rove, you’ll find the article. Holy crap.
edit: GSD — the answer would be no. HELL NO. Not even in the same league as North.
montag @ 148
these days they’re the Miserati
If Harriet Miers “initially” raised the idea of replacing all 93 USAttorneys after the 2004 election, we know whose idea it was, don’t we?
“Who will rid me of these meddlesome prosecutors?”
Excellent post, TRex!
punaise @ 153
Live by the Fiat, die by the Fiat….
The Law and Order Party decided to make an enemies list of attorneys general and weed out those that were insufficiently loyal to the king.
Strong performers “exhibited loyalty” to the administration; low performers were “weak U.S. attorneys who have been ineffectual managers and prosecutors, chafed against Administration initiatives, etc.”; a third group merited no opinion.
This is their undoing. Patrick Fitzgerald would have been long gone if not for Comey.
-GSD
“Ah cain’t even drive…”
TeddySanFran @ 154
ummm 20 questions. It is animal, vegetable or mineral?
TeddySanFran @ 154
Which 2004 Congressional races were still in question by the end of January/early February?
That might give us a few clues as to which ones were targeted…haven’t yet looked at that.
The whole right-wing talking point about Clinton getting rid of ALL 93 prosecutors is a load of bullsh*t too; Black in the Marianas was a BushI appointee. I suspect now after reading this latest WaPo article that the “Clinton Did It” spin was innoculation.
Rayne @ 152
My god, you are sharp, Rayne.
I’m so glad you’re on our side.
From Tuesday’s edition of “The Hill”:
Maybe they’ll engrave the invitations: “The honor of your presence is requested . . .”
TRex @ 158
“… since they pulled mah license….”
montag @ 156
Sounds like a Saab story to me. (Pass the hankies)
That inoculation came from Rove at the Clinton Center last weekend; he reeled off numbers of USAs in that tone of his that brooks no questions.
Nice links, Rayne.
TRex @
149
In this environment another rotten aid is another rotten aid.
By the way, Sampson appears to be Rove’s Rove.
Valley Girl @ 159
Umm, more like an action….
GSD >
Orrin Hatch`s man he is (BYU and all…)
This is going to be fun watching unravel I must say
“Small men follow the letter of the law, great men seek justice” – Buck Rodgers in The 25th Century
montag- since dey pullahed mah licence.
GSD @
70
why is the shrub always TOUCHING everybody??!!??
GSD @ 157
I’m sincerely hoping he’s got enough on them to KEEP his job.
Peterr @ 164
Yugo, Peterr!
montag @ 167
I see you point but I was trying to guess as to the attribution.
If US Attorneys were put on the hit list for failure to prosecute “voter fraud” cases aggressively, it would seem that there may have been some general directive that went out (from Gonzales? Miers? Rove?) calling for such cases to be brought.
As opposed to taking any real steps to ensure fair elections, such as, say, investigating voter machine companies owned by rabid Republicans, and incidents of close elections being “won” by Republicans on said machines…
“Voter fraud”? Hmmm. Wonder if the U.S. Attorney in Florida has been urged by the White House to aggressively pursue a case against Ann Coulter?
oh! ix-nay on the esschul-spay osecutor-pray talk, please — we don’t have that luxury of time. This needs to get sorted out in Chairman Leahy’s and Chairman Conyers’s committees, this month.
Valley Girl @ 169
Umm, yeah, forgot. In Georgia, “pulled” is two syllables. :)
TeddySanFran @ 165
That’s a wrap on that, you can mark me as having ID’d this. I didn’t know it was Rover who launched that talking point in the flesh.
Cheese-on-rice, he’s so f*cking desperate he didn’t even wear gloves, didn’t send a boy to do the job. He handled the innoculation himself, in public.
Listen to the therapod and
ATTACK!!
ATTACK!!
ATTAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!
Rover has officially jumped the f*cking shark if he is this sloppy, exposing himself in public like this. Sic’em.
Nary a peep of this AG serial massacre in Yahoo. But General Petraeus offers up a few bon mots on Iran and Syria.
-GSD
andrea “math is hard” mitchell. unfortunately for us her shelf life is proving much longer than that ol’ self-esteem challenged Barbie* doll.
(*insert appropriate trademark here)
Valley Girl @ 173
Not exclusive… an action around a vegetable.
(Now, there’s a set-up if I’ve ever seen one. :) )
So glad some of you can amuse yourselves belittling those of us from the South. How juvenile and small of you.
I’m still worried about the AGs that were not canned. How the hell do ya find out about them?
OldCoastie @
170
Chimpish domination tactics.
-GSD
montag- three, actually. I can’t tell you how confusing it was at first. Someone told me to turn left on “Paw-en-ah” street. After one asks for a repeat the third time, it gets embarassing.
Rove’s appearance in Little Rock; stats debunked by Clinton CoS Podesta.
politicalpollyanna @ 181
I am from the South, thank you. That’s where I learned it….
Rayne @ 159
Another difference is that Clinton’s choices to replace them would have had to be confirmed by the Senate. Thanks to that little tidbit in the Patriot Act, Bush can appoint interim U.S. Attorneys for an indefinite period.
Well, TRex, with your millions of years of contemplation perhaps you can tell us what price Andrea Mitchell paid for lying. (I guess it’s possible she made wishes fact in her mind but then that isn’t much of a defense is it?)
Almost surely Andrea Mitchell convinced a few people that they too are in favor of pardoning Libby in order to be part of the people rather than the meanies on the fringe.
Meanwhile liberals celebrate among themselves that they have proven the lie but dare not call themselves what they are because they don’t want to be on the fringe either with those horrid liberals.
We fossils got to stick together, TRex. Then again what else can we do? Everybody else has left, which is why they call us lefties.
Best, Terry
politicalpollyanna @ 181
Hey, look. I’m southern born and bred, but I’ll be the first to tell you. There’s all kinds of smart people in the south, but down here when we do “dumb”, honey…we could bottle it and sell it.
montag- on the set-up- I’s slow. we need punaise. Off to sleep shortly.
Rayne >
This might be the time to start warming up for singing “…and the walls came tumbling down…”
“Stop quoting the laws to us. We carry swords.” – Pompey
Suzanne @ 182
Check out Talking Points Memo. Josh Marshall is flogging this story quite hard. He was on the case of the NH AG who seemed to cut off any further prosecutions of our notorious phone-jamming case at the pass.
There were reports that the jammers were in heavy contact with Whitehouse operatives but that angle never was pursued.
-GSD
Suzanne @ 182
Jonathan Turley was all over that exact point on KO tonite — what about the folks who kept their jobs? What dark arts did they perform to keep in the WH good graces?
TRex @ 189
And make a fortune, too. :)
daCascadian @ 191
As Crassus it gets.
-GSD
Josh Marshall ain’t sleeping tonight. First, it’s the Times story, then a “late update,” then a “gonna be a long night update.” Closing graphs:
Yep. Gonzales is gone, and he won’t make it until Friday. Lying to Congress is never a good idea, especially now that Leahy and Conyers have subpeona power.
Thanks, GSD.
montag @ 172
harumph: can’t do jack-sh*t with Lamborghini….
Suzanne @ 182
You subpoena them to a Congressional committee hearing, one by one, get them under oath, and ask them to disclose any and all political directives they may have received while in office, and how they responded to same.
montag @ 194
Supah-Cawncentrayyted Doub-uh Strenth Liquid Dumb. Bottled at the source.
Renee in Ohio @
110
Indeed! Almost OT, but symbolically relevant: the Archetype of Pluto “…reflects the archetypal Underworld–the dark, mysterious, and often terrifying reality which lurks beneath the surface of things, beneath our ego and societal conventions and the veneer of civilization, and which is periodically unleashed with great destructive and transformative force…”
Must be an awful lot of them.
G’nite pups!
I finally figured out that trick! If you’re going to pull out a red herring, make it a lie. If your opponent diverts to deal with the red herring, you’ve changed the subject from, say, the fact that the president is a lying sack of shit to, say, the question of whether she was really “covert.” If your opponent doesn’t divert to the question of whether she was covert, he/she has left unchallenged the implication that there was no underlying crime. Clever stuff!!
Peterr @ 196
How much ya bet he tries the lying routine again, and again, and again?
Peterr, I’m in agreement. Gone before the Friday News dump.
TRex >
We`re not worthy…
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TRex @ 189
Somebody done went and piped it straight to DC, babe, must be serving it as ice in them pretty cocktails served with the weenies.
TeddySanFran @ 185
Wow, for a minute I thought that was the height of desperate ballsiness, to pull that crap at the Clinton Center…but looks like it’s the Statehouse Convention Center in Little Rock. ??
TRex @ 158
“An’ mah parunts wuz married, dammit!”
But, you know, now that I think about it, Southern Dumb absolutely pales in comparison to certain species of California Dumb. There is the fact that you can be too dumb to come in out of the weather in California and still not die, pretty much all year round.
TRex @ 208
Case in point:
The Hilton Sisters.
montag @ 203
Oh, please please PLEASE let him be stupid enough to think he can get away with lying under oath. Just like Scooter thought he’d skate.
TRex @ 208
LOL – I was just about to launch into a paean about self-deprecating humor at the lake…but then I went outside and stared at the sun.
Am I the only one that missed this? Lieberman is schilling for a Swiftboater?
What a whore.
Dude.
TRex @ 208
punaise @ 198
I’m on the Lam–Borgnine-I think, will help me.
If not, maybe Lamb-or-Ginny can get me out of this [traffic] jam….
TRex @ 208
In some parts of California, that is — say, Duke Cunningham’s neighborhood. Elsewhere, there’s these nasty mountains called the Sierra’s, where the best route through them is the Donner Pass . . . not a place to get stuck in the winter.
Peter Pace things homosexual acts are immoral.
Unless of course you’re trying to break a suspected Al Qaeda operatives spirits.
Then it is considered a crafty interrogation tactic.
-GSD
UptownNYChick @ 212
Sigh.
Usually, I do not use this word as an epithet, but Lieberman is special.
What a cocksucker.
Montag, did you just out punaise punaise?
TRex @ 208
Duncan Hunter. Duncan Hunter. Duncan Hunter. Etc., etc., etc. :)
Peterr @ 215
The Republican Party is starting to look like the Donner Party more and more.
-GSD
DC press corp: Lamb bored weenies
Peterr @ 215
Whenever I go to a restaurant where there’s a wait, I give my name as “Donner”. Just to hear the host say, “Donner, party of four? Donner, party of four?”
I am easily amused, yes.
Peterr- TRex may have been referring to LALA land. Which I know well.
Valley Girl @ 223
Like, OMG, fer sherr!
“Donner, party of four?”
“your wagon is ready”
Suzanne @ 218
Uh, once in a while, when he’s feelin’ peaked, it happens. :)
This is not the first time that Kyle Sampson has directly impacted USA’s appointments; he did it in the White House in 2002. I refuse to link to the article, won’t drive traffic to that RICO outfit, especially since the Dark Lord Novakula wrote this piece — but note this excerpt from first week of January 2002, regarding a USA in San Diego:
ohmigod! gag me with a spoon. but I really do have to get some zzzzzzzsss
punaise @ 221
Or, Borg wards….
montag @ 226
my condolencescouldn’t happen to a nicer guy :~)montag @
19
I’d modify that to read “… and unsuccessful self-abuse.”
Back briefly. Ms. ET and my bodyguard, Bossa the Shriner Clown have been experimenting with Patricia Yeo recipes. Now I read that Ann Coulter goes for $5.00. Bossa says that’s gonna piss off the deckhand on his tug in Valdez. He says the deckhand paid her $10.00.
Ed*ard Teller @ 232
OMG-this is getting better and better.
newtonusr @
45
Sad! Very, very sad. I don’t know exactly what they were up against, but this is an outrage.
montag @ 229
The Smorgas Borg.
GSD >
Ole Smedley & Chesty would carve him a new as*hole faster than you could say it.
He is a disgrace to the uniform he wears; should be mustered out at the rank he entered ASAP.
“All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out.” – I.F. Stone
UptownNYChick @ 212
My contempt for Joe Lieberman knows no bounds.
Which is good, because the reasons for holding him in contempt just keep growing and growing.
punaise @ 225
Donner, party of
four, uh, party of three…Rick B @ 231
A Coulter Bolter, eh?
Ed*ard Teller @ 238
7.0.7.
montag @ 239
It means every time she tries to masturbate, her hand falls asleep.
Phoenix Woman @
58
Hear. Hear.
Beginning of the End ALERT –
Go To TPM . . .
NOW!!!
punaise @ 221
Every time you crack one of these good ones, I ask “Audi do that?”
Oh, please, oh please let Holy Joe’s number be in there…….maybe with notes on some really weird kink….
TRex @ 241
Since all the various bits are connected to her brain, that makes sense….
-ck- @ 243
Been there for a while, -ck- . . .
How’s that old spiritual go? “Joshua fought the battle . . . and the walls come a crumb-lin’ down!”
UptownNYChick @ 245
…perhaps, involving Ann Coulter’s sleeping hand?
Peterr >
It`s a Vibe he has
“The human race has one really effective weapon, and that is laughter.” – Mark Twain
From TPM:
Last October, President Bush spoke with Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales to pass along concerns by Republicans that some prosecutors were not aggressively addressing voter fraud, the White House said Monday. Senator Pete V. Domenici, Republican of New Mexico, was among the politicians who complained directly to the president, according to an administration official.
THE MATH, EH KARL?
-GSD
Peterr @
244
full disclosure: I heard it first on Opel Winfrey
-ck- @ 243
Well, I’ll be dipped in shit.
We’ll see if it sticks.
UptownNYChick @ 245
Joe just sits in the corner and watches
In his speech Rove made the point of stating that “If” 2,000 votes here or 5,000 votes there had switched…”we’d have held congress”.
-GSD
punaise @ 251
Didn’t Ed-sel-a-van say something like that too, back in the 60s?
UptownNYChick >
Young boys…
“All successful revolutions are the kicking in of a rotten door.” – John Kenneth Galbraith
He gets his jollies finding other people for Republicans to fuck.
punaise @ 252
only if he can sit next to a republican
Lieberpimpin’ aint easy.
-GSD
UptownNYChick @ 258
and I thought kumbaya was spelled with a ‘k’…
oops – zig alert
Peterr @ 244
Only if you’re able to Triumph….
Ed*ard Teller @ 232
the next thing you know she’ll be wearing a black watch cap and logging on as “Tugboat Annie” …..
punaise @ 253
Someone a little while back said the same of Dubya… birds of a feather, eh?
Would somebody please put Andrea Mitchell under oath? Maybe it’ll at least focus her attention.
montag @ 262
not in a Peugeot-rative sense, of course
Q: How can you tell when a Bush Admonostration official isn’t lying?
A: When he demands his SITH Amendment Rights!
fahrender @ 263
Oh, my goodness, that’s a disturbing image….
Peterr @ 247
I’ve been fighting these monsters for seven and a half years –
And this Really IS: The Beginning — Of. The. END. . . .
May President Pelosi save our country, and save our planet . . .
G’night all.
Hoping to wake up to the news Abu Gonzalez wants to spend more time with Harriet Miers…..
punaise @ 266
Of course. No adverse Opel-lations intended.
RE: The DC Madam. I suspect most of her clients will be Democrats. The Republican escorts that keep turning up are all men.
And Halliburton’s CEO is moving his HQ from Houston to Dubai. All those Enron folks have got to be slapping their heads, saying “Why didn’t *we* think of that?”
Oh crap, I just effed up one of my own comments.
Think I overwrote one that had a nice selection of content in it, too. Damnitall. I think I need to go to bed.
I’m guessing Mr. Sampson has withdrawn from this event:
Makes me wonder whether I should go back and look at the “McNulty Memorandum.”
As Josh asks at the end of his latest update, why the Monday document dump? Do you think they thought with bushie out of the country, that no one here would read the papers? Or is it perhaps because he is out of the country this information comes out now?
montag @ 264
I thought Dubya just sat in the corner and read “My Pet Goat.”
Rayne @ 274
While your original may have disappeared from your screen, it’s still sitting on mine. Which one, Rayne? I’ll repost it, as I haven’t reloaded the page in a bit.
montag @ 271
I’m all for Lieberman losing his SEAT in the Senate
neurophius @ 276
I’d say, from the state of the country after six years, that he’s been fuckin’ the goat….
RE: The document dump. Um, who’s putting out all these documents? It looks like the whole house of cards is falling down, but I always get nervous when documents start coming out and they haven’t been authenticated. And as Josh points out, you don’t do a document dump on a Monday. Either this is a brilliant scam (possible but not likely), or there are so many people involved that they can’t all stab one another in the back fast enough.
Peterr, I would greatly appreciate that; I have so many pages up right now digging for dirt that I don’t remember which ones I’ve already used for a previous comment. I suspect there’s stuff in it we may want to refer to inside the next 24 hours.
punaise @ 278
It’s kind of doubtful. Harry Reid is just plumb Tucker-ed out by Lieberman’s antics….
Suggest voice-mail to Pete Domenici:
Nah nah nah nah!
Nah nah nah nah!
Hey hey hey!
Goodbye!
Frank Probst @ 280
Call it Libby induced psychosis. No one wants to be the last man to go to jail for a failed president.
-GSD
Frank Probst @ 280
They’re coming out, because Congress is issuing subpeonas. They wouldn’t dream of doing it otherwise. By putting them out there now, they are hoping to stay in front of the story — as bad as it is — and not let the Dems have the first crack at framing it.
Not that that’s going to do them any good.
Was it this one Rayne?
Rayne says
March 12th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
Edit
Rob Zuber @ 89
The Gonzales aide in charge of the dismissals — his chief of staff, D. Kyle Sampson — resigned yesterday, officials said, after acknowledging that he did not tell Justice officials about the extent of his communications with the White House, leading them to provide incomplete information to Congress.
Doesn’t that smell of firewalling and plausible deniability to you?
Sampson is named COS in September of 2005.
He’s named Deputy Chief of Staff and Counselor to the Attorney General in February 2005; is this part of normal transition post-election?
D. Kyle Sampson has served at the Department of Justice as a Counselor to the Attorney General since 2003, and he currently serves as a Special Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia. Prior to joining the Department, Sampson served in the White House as Associate Counsel to the President and as Special Assistant to the President and Associate Director for Presidential Personnel. From 1999 to 2001, Sampson served as Counsel to Senator Orrin G. Hatch on the Senate Judiciary Committee, and he taught as an Adjunct Professor at George Mason University Law School during the 2000-2001 school year. Before entering public service, Sampson practiced law at the Salt Lake City law firm of Parr Waddoups Brown Gee & Loveless and clerked for Judge Karen J. Williams of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. Sampson earned his law degree, with honors, from the University of Chicago Law School, where he served as Articles Editor of the University of Chicago Law Review. He earned his undergraduate degree from Brigham Young University.
Bold mine — sure looks to me like cross-pollination from the White House pool to the DOJ. Was he the DOJ’s “political officer”?
Good God, there is so much smoke here, must be a fire.
And John Solomon is one of the two bylines on this WaPo — can you say “partisan hack”? If it looks this bad posted by a shill, imagine how REALLY BAD it is in actuality. Can only guess at what will come on Friday in the weekly dump…
Frank Probst @ 283
If you add to that, “Pete, GNEP’s dead,” it’ll stroke him out.
After reading Josh Marshall’s “it’s the end of the world as we know it” post, I’ll put $5 on Miers as the author of the inserted clause that modified the PatAct to allow this debacle.
Somebody got the name of that staffer in Specter’s office? Is there a link to Miers?
GSD @ 284
Could be. Maybe last week all of these folks realized, “Oh holy fuck! You mean lying under oath is illegal?! Why the hell didn’t someone TELL me?”
does anyone think this USA business could possibly be shooter somehow paying back chimpy for allowing scooter to be prosecuted?
G’night.
Time to watch the Comets and the Satellites.
-GSD
“After reading Josh Marshall’s “it’s the end of the world as we know it” post, I’ll put $5 on Miers as the author of the inserted clause that modified the PatAct to allow this debacle.”
Smells like a Rovian move to me.
GSD @
284
ding!
Mitchell & Greenspan…ugh.
This may be my one and only comment… weedwacked tall grass all afternoon and now am paying the price with a limp, dangling arm. Ouch. Wanted to share Jeff Jawer’s take on this week and also further into the future. Jeff is a very fine astrologer and writes for The Mountain Astrologer magazine.
“The key event this week is a partial solar eclipse in late Pisces on March 18th. Eclipses are powerful of course but this one takes on extra significance because of a tough square from Pluto. The challenging right angle from the Lord of the Underworld (pluto) to any New Moon promises deep structural changes ahead. But combining it with a solar eclipse means that heads are going to roll. Heads of state and other large institutions may be replaced at an accelarated rate during the next few months. People may reexamine some fundamental ideas about themselves, especially those with important planets around 28* of mutuable signs in their charts. Nevertheless, the Jupiter-Saturn trine can work as a kind of safety net to catch the fallen (and failing) ideas and redirect them on a more constructive course of action.”
Off to heating pad land…
OldCoastie, that is an interesting thought…
Suzanne (286) — nope, not it, thanks anyhow.
I’m pretty sure I overwrote (227) at 10:22 pm.
Oh well…maybe I’m meant to rediscover on Thursday as new what I knew on Tuesday.
[Ouch, hurts to think like a Repug.]
Rayne @ 227
Rayne @ 288
Wouldn’t surprise me. But, I think the Bushies will skate on all of this. It’s not going to generate the sort of smell in the public that (rightfully) it should.
Gonzales may well be gone. But, the smell will go with him. Bush and Cheney and Rove will survive. Nothing short of Bush involvement with 9/11 will cause the public to get out the torches and pitchforks.
Don’t get me wrong–I’m happy to see Gonzales get his ass handed to him–but, this is not enough to take Bush down with him.
Frank Probst @
272
She’s a Madam (not a prostitute)…it doesn’t mean she doesn’t arrange things for those of all persuasions. Some of what she does likely doesn’t even technically require intercourse. But it would be lurid.
That mental image just warms the cockles of my heart. Republicans who look like pincushions.
Et tu, DeLay?
cinnamonape @ 299
take a walk on the wild side
Peterr @ 285
I don’t think that’s it. The Bush White House is quite adept at the art of the stonewall. It’s very unlike them to let a story get this far out of control, especially when Rove is right in the middle of it. If this is them getting “in front of” the story, it’s got to be a hell of a lot worse than we realize. Domenici just got a samurai sword planted between his shoulder blades, and Sampson just resigned.
I think Josh is on to something: The bigger story here is voter suppression. The fired AUSAs are the ones who wouldn’t play along. That’s the only thing I can think of that would be worth stirring up this much shit to distract us from.
Gonzales……
Cheney………
Fuckwad…….
Rove will skate.
Thanks, Peterr, that’s the same material I see now. I lost something, still no idea how. Thanks for trying for me, probably happened for some cosmically serendipitous reason we’ll yet discover.
I think I might need to reload my Firefox software, have had this happen twice this week on this desktop, and the Find feature has now locked up.
Terry, I’m sure this was not the intention, but your comment repeats the Reichwing’s core lie.
Liberals aren’t a fringe left over when the real players leave the political room.
The Reichwing are the radical fringe group.
Progressive values – on ending the Iraq slaughter; on providing every family with a living wage and affordable health care (single payer); on protection of the living world; on gender orientation – on these and so many other public issues, progressive values are the majority values.
Far from the liberals being “left-over” whern the “majority” leave the room, progressive values are “majority” are found wherever progressive values dominate. In reality space, the lunatic fringe of Authoritarians who comprise the Bush Insurrection amount to somewhere between one-fifth and one-third of the populace.
Despite billions spent by the Scarfes and Moons and Mellons to slam the American body politic out of community values and into the authoritarian values of corproate rule, the vast majority of Americans still don’t buy the wingers’ crap.
Despite winger-controlled media, the majority of Americans are progressive.
And that was before the Wurlitzer crumbled.
We have been the majority for many years, and we are reclaiming our progressive voice – and our power.
terry hallinan @
188
Rayne, this one?
The document dump is going to contain some nasty bits, but THEY knew what was in there, planned for it. I suspect that’s why we see virtually the same coverage from NYT and WaPO on the USA’s right now.
Note this bit:
““We would like to execute this on Thursday, Dec. 7,” Mr. Sampson wrote. Because some United States attorneys were still in Washington attending a conference, he planned to postpone telling them they were being fired. He wrote, “We want to wait until they are back home and dispersed to reduce chatter.”
Mr. Sampson predicted that dismissals might stir debate. “Prepare to Withstand Political Upheaval,” he wrote in describing what to expect as a result of the firings. “U.S Attorneys desiring to save their jobs aided by their allies in the political arena as well as the Justice Department community, likely will make efforts to preserve themselves in office. You should expect these efforts to be strenuous.””
He was prepared in December to go down with the ship for these people. He just bought their undying appreciation and a tenure position in their welfare pool. Welcome to the private sector and the consultantocracy, Mr. Sampson.
cinnamonape @ 299
or at least kinky …….
neurophius @ 292
Ditto. Harriet Miers isn’t even smart enough to properly apply eye shadow. With both hands. This is all Rove.
fahrender @ 303
God is not mocked.
What justice men may be unable to mete out, I suspect will be handled by Forces We Do Not Entirely Understand.
I feel this in my bones.
punaise @ 301
Take a walk on the vile side (with an Otto Preminger accent :) ).
TRex @ 208
Indeed. A mind is a terrible thing to baste
Frank Probst @ 302
That, and the fact that there are documents and emails. This isn’t Scooter saying “I forgot” and trying a “he said/she said” defense. There’s a paper trail, and it’s not going away. Prosecutors love paper trails.
Helpless Dancer @ 311
BAAA-HAAA-HAAAAAAAA!!
*snerk*
so drudge gets 1.2 million hits a month ???
what’s that, a good DAY a DailyKOS ???
thenext hurrah gets about 25 regulars a day, and I bet we have a higher combined IQ in those 25 people than durdge has in his 1.2 million unique visitors a month (if you added up all of the IQ points, the sum total of the IQ points of 25 TNH readers would be higher than the sum total of 1.2 million drudge readers)
to be totally honest, I suspect that most drudge readers can’t read to begin with
Frank Probst @ 302
but you have to admit, we’re getting closer to a tipping point and despite what we’ve been conditioned to accept as reality it just might, might happen sooner than later……
and that would be almost worth all the vexation we’ve been through ….
Dear Mr. Matulis,
Even though I live in Seattle, I was raised in the Midwest, in Defiance, Ohio. I had dreams about being a journalist for Time magazine and someday earning the then unheard of sum of $50,000 a year. Well, I never became a journalist, instead a lawyer. But I’ve always had a soft spot in my heart for the profession, cemented perhaps by Woodward and Bernstein’s exploits when I was in college.
Ann Coulter is not a journalist. She is a fear monger who stirs up hatred with her column as a way of appearing popular. She does not add to the public discourse. She detracts from it, particularly by her rancid habit of nasty name calling. Getting rid of her would enhance, rather than detract from your paper.
That’s my 2 cents from the upper left hand corner of the map.
Sincerely,
moe99
montag @ 298
You’re probably right; the kind of investigative journalism we haven’t seen in decades in politics is required here if there is to be real accountability with buy-in from the majority of the public.
Just waiting for the spin-meisters of the VRWC to unleash holy hell in the morning. “Gonna Be A Long Night” wasn’t just Josh Marshall staying up all evening on this story…
zig alert
Suzanne @ 295
not sure about it at all… but it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s flickin’ lit matches at it in a very annoying way…
looking like a meltdown to me…
UptownNYChick @
10
Really late to the party, but it was my understanding that Rove had THE math.
Rayne @ 317
Well, there’s always the possibility that some enterprising reporter will stumble across something else which puts the word, “plot,” clearly in the crosshairs.
Everybody loves a conspiracy. :)
skimming salon.com:
So, um . . . TRex?
How about a new thread, riffing on all that NYT & Josh Marshall TPM Times —
BUSH IS GOING DOWN!!!
Soon, we hope . . .
The Democratically-controlled Congress [I love to say that] may need to reinvent the office of special prosecutor to handle USAgate. The Justice Department is utterly incapable of investigating itself and the Bush administration regarding this matter, let alone prosecuting the guilty parties.
Well, Josh may be staying up all night, but Peterr’s not going to.
G’night, all!
Peterr’s not joshing: good night!
punaise @ 326
Nite, Peterr.
punaise @ 322
Having a vision of Joey doing a Snidely Whiplash routine, “… curses, foiled again?”
Wouldn’t that be fun?
Suzanne (306) — I think that’s the one, thank you very much! Yes, was an excerpt from the NYT article published tonight. Now that it’s back in here (thank you again), I can search for it when I need to recall why I though Sampson had this planned.
Good God, these people are fiendish. There’s no consideration about the welfare of the public in their works, only political outcomes. We are going to need some serious purging, sanitizing and refreshing when they leave, get restarted on a clean slate.
fahrender @ 263
I think that would be the nautical version of pulling a train.
Helpless Dancer @ 330
Tugging a boat?
TRex @ 309
God may not be mocked but i’m not sure if God cares. However, as long as it happens in this reality and in our lifetime, i’m with you 100%.
back when the new year was turning and people were making resolutions and predictions for this year i “had a feeling in my bones”. i told people i didn’t know what it was but that it was “something big”. i still don’t know what it is. but i still feel it. and i don’t get that kind of sensation very often ….
montag @ 321
Actually, I’m rather partial to indictments on charges of conspiracy. ;-)
Rayne @ 333
Actually, I’m rather partial to indictments on charges of conspiracy. ;-)
Me, too. Especially when the co-conspirators are such a smug lot…. :)
But, with the change in law that Specter helpfully provided, all this will be seen as scandalously political in nature, but, not necessarily illegal–I expect that to be the dominant theme in the news throughout the week. That may be why it came out when it did.
Bush will come back late in the week and say, rather straight-faced, “well, duh, I had complaints about `em.”
And Gonzales will be gone, but, they’ll likely find someone just as insanely ideological and political as Abu….
ok folks, i know it’s your bed time. it’s my work time so i gotta go get ready.
catch y’all on the flip side …….
fahrender @ 335
Or, the flip-flop side, as the news may show. :)
I’m right behind you, heading for bed, fahrender.
But I’ll leave this parting night cap, from Feb 2005 WaPo:
Bold mine.
No wonder the dump, eh? Did Sampson know what the goods were, and wants to get clear of the wreckage? Or is this merely falling on his sword as a firewall?
Niters, FirePups. Bring your A game tomorrow, we are going to have us some FUN!!!
montag @
334
Me, too. Especially when the co-conspirators are such a smug lot…. :)
But, with the change in law that Specter helpfully provided, all this will be seen as scandalously political in nature, but, not necessarily illegal–I expect that to be the dominant theme in the news throughout the week. That may be why it came out when it did.
Bush will come back late in the week and say, rather straight-faced, “well, duh, I had complaints about `em.”
And Gonzales will be gone, but, they’ll likely find someone just as insanely ideological and political as Abu….
Like John Yoo. ;-)
-ck- @ 323
Give me a minute, here. I’m eating.
Dang, over 300 comments already! YGM but it can wait until after the new thread TRex.
TRex @ 339
Umm, re: therapods, I’m not sure I want to watch. :)
say what you will about her, this is pretty cool:
Peterr >
It seems to me that this onion has just begun to be unpeeled so there are bound to be more layers to dig through which is sure to surface yet many more shiny nuggets of malfeasance.
“We the people…” might just get us our impeachment & conviction show yet.
“Representative government and trial by jury are the heart and lungs of liberty. Without them, we have no other fortification against being ridden like horses, fleeced like sheep, worked like cattle, and fed and clothed like swine and hounds.” – John Adams
Are you sure you guys need a whole new thread to get through to morning? Things kind of seem to be slowing down.
hitting the hay, TRex – thank you for a lovely evening.
TRex – I’m done. buona notte, tutti
Back from seeing my bodyguard off for another month of shepherding our oil supply in and out of Valdez. I can’t believe there weren’t any Vauxhall, Renault Gordini or Land Rover puns. And did TRex ever explain the connection between Matt Drudge and Camille Saint-Saens?
TRex, I think you are right and looks like folks are heading off to bed.
Ed*ard Teller @ 347
Sterling observation
Ed*ard Teller @ 347
Oh. Heh. ET, I was playing Saint-Saens on my RADIO SHOW tonight. I do a 60-second intro each night at the top of the hour.
G’nite TRex and Firepups -
thanks for the fun!
Another story that needs to be looked into…so many…
http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/
TRex @ 350
who threw Rove under Debussy?
Yeah, time to go to bed. Maybe by the time I wake up on pacific daylight time Abu will have resigned. One could always hope.
Rayne @
206
You busy brilliant wonderful pups! I posted that link here about two minutes after the gang at AR Times blog scooped it. Only one site on the internet had the story with video before FDL.
Rayne? If you are still here, what is the significance of the wapo 2005 link? Is it this?
TRex @ 350
actually, I thought that might be it when you posted it this afternoon. later, my friend. otoh, on the toobz Drudge is never more than 5 clicks away from Saint-Saens…
punaise @ 353
they’re Haydn the evidence as the situation keeps unRavel-ing
punaise @ 353
Alright, you rascals. I’m Orff to bed.
Good night!
Playing Cheney’s you-know-who speech from today on the laptop courtesy of C-SPAN. Nobody, I mean NOBODY could possibly top Cheney at parodying Cheney.
Rayne @
288
Michael O’Neill
punaise @ 353
It’s eR-ice-y out there. Maybe he slipped.
Wow! I haven’t had time to do more than speed-read, but this was definitely a night for staying up too late!
Reading the WaPo story: they’re throwing up that wall around GW as fast as they can, huh? It’s some serious damage control going to this level so fast. Smells like fear to me.
Great thread. G’night all.
LMAO, Backstage at Fox News’s “Half Hour News Hour:”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARY9ka2o2J4
…h/t Americablog…
Watching deadeye’s Friday speech. I was thinking he stole Nancy Pelosi’s upcoming speech until he said 911 the fourth time. She’ll keep it to two mentions.
TRex @
350
Mystery solved! and I, to bed.
Oh damn, I thought that was too easy…I just got sucked back in when I should have been closing my desktop down.
Eureka AR — yup, that blurb was the significant bit, as was the photo; that was Rove and Sampson in a side-by-side. Sampson looks like Rove’s heir literally. Yeesh. Not a point of pride, I might point out.
Teddy — thanks for that, just found O’Neill in an article at Slate. Think I already lost my bet, too, based on the Slate article. But I’ll have to double-check in the morning, see if I missed a link between O’Neill and Miers.
TeddySanFran @ 359
Ah HA!
kirk murphy @ 305
Ain’t no such thing.
“Progressive” is what liberals call themselves when they are too fearful of calling themselves liberals. Nobody else calls them that.
The real Progressives are completely outside the Democratic-Republican duopoly. They will always be on the fringes. If their ideas were to be adopted, then they would be mainstream and no longer Progressives would they?
In Faneuil Hall in Boston, where the formation of our liberal government was debated, there is a wonderfully large portrait of John Adams glowering at visitors. Calls to mind Shelley’s Ozymandias. John Adams was a rebel and then he became what he had rebelled against. He was no longer the courageous liberal that he had been but the royalist demanding pomp and luxury to the point of absurdity.
Oh yeah there was a bit of a problem with the voting too.
Are folks here really so afraid to be called liberals? That’s what you are you know. Nothing wrong with that at all though Ann Coulter thinks so. Does Ann scare you?
Best, Terry
Ed*ard Teller @ 357
they’re never Satie’s-fied.
(Jim, no Op-ed, he)
So Mike O’Neill DIDN’T tell Specter? Yeah, right. That view and $5.00 will get you
Ann Coulter for the nighta cup of coffee.From a link in the salon article. More on O’Neill (washington times)
I don’t have any search skills but spent a bit of time last week googling his name etc. Not much out there.
Hatch is the connection between O’Neill and Sampson, if we were trying to find one. I’m sleepy. G’nite!
I am a liberal. Not proud, just generous with the idea of civil liberties, common good, and a fair shake for all and I want to help.
All hail TPMuckraker.
Lesser types can gnaw and chew on the anklebones like chihuahuas and are just a nuisance.
The big dawg is at the throat of the bad guys.
What a wonderful sight.
Best, Terry
been looking at several other important liberal blogs. the difference between progressive blogs’ coverage of the conservative convention held ten days ago with the conference currently being held is nothing less than a major indictment against progressive pretentions – especially in the credible, high-volume blogosphere – that we’re actively engaged in solving the major problems conftonting our seriously flawed, highly dangerous foreign policy.
Max Cleland!
Wasn’t that wonderful, ET.
ET – Please share links to any decent coverage of the AI*AC convention.
5000 individuals on capitol hill this week, just from that lobby! Sounds like quite a production.
btw, why don’t you consider submitting a post here?
WaPo on fired USA’s.
Oh. My. Gawd.
Thanks for the heads up to go to TPM. Fan, meet feces. Feces, fan.
Everyone, duck!
Suzanne @ 378
His response to Wolf re “What would you do if you could sit down opposite of Dick Cheney and ask him….?” was awesome. Should be played all over the toobz!
Eureka Springs, AR @ 379
Hey, Eureka,
the best print material is coming from JPost, the Jerusal*m Post’s website. Ha’Ar*tz is good, too. c-sp*n is covering it and if you go to their site, you can download speeches as they appear. The one with Ch*ney has a lot of other interesting speeches and slideshows.
That’s about it for me tonight, folks. G’nite.
Thanks ET
goodnite Suzanne..)
Ed*ard Teller @
377
Yeah!
Amato has it at C&L, too.
The money quote: (wolfie asks Cleland what he would say to Cheney if he had the chance)
Can we get this on a tape loop and just play it 24/7 on the major networks?
Eureka Springs, AR @ 379
I really don’t think my knowledge of issues brought up here is up to the caliber we normally get. Maybe if something important happens in Alaska, I’d be able to offer an article helpful and topical enough. Thanks.
Well I asked you because I thought you have knowledge on the issues surrounding this weeks convention. iirc, Jane once mentioned she didn’t have the knowledge of the a**** type issues to be able to post on it herself.
Ed*ard Teller @ 386
The future is happening in Alaska maybe more than anyplace on earth:
http://www.yourownpower.com/
Congratulations.
The rest of us talk about piddling nonsense mostly.
Best, Terry
terry hallinan @ 388
I love Chena! The ski trails are perfect right now. Japanese couples go there in the winter on their honeymoons, to conceive their first child under the northern lights – great good luck. The hotel rooms are pretty noisy at night.
Picture of Jane and Dan Rather at SXSW:
http://news.com.com/2300-1025_…..ne.gall.pg
Rayne @
337
Well, maybe this is just piling on, but Gonzales’ “recusal” should be seen in the light of “Six Degrees Of Separation: Alberto Gonzales Involved in Plame Cover-Up,” by Nicole Belle on Monday, March 12th, 2007.
I hope the others are right that Gonzales won’t last out the week. But I think he knows where all the bodies are buried.
Bob in HI
Oilfieldguy @ 27
Funny!
Not only has it been bleached beyond recognition, but it also has been straightened to within an inch of its life. She’s not a pretty picture.
Mornin’, twolf, Marion & all the rest of you early birds -
Boy, glad I caught a rerun of the fun I-hat had w/mary matalin on yesterday’s call-in; he just sorta created a new opening in her body surface (not to mention he had the audacity to eat breakfast while she was talking) *g*. And this morning he’s starting in on getting nicholson fired……….and he ain’t r.e.a.l happy w/darth either *G*
Veddddddy interesting the quotes coming out of the WH & DOJ that have surfaced overnite wrt the firings of the gonzo 8; they can deny all they want but the tenor of the contents makes it crystal clear the dirty tricks intended.
The portents they do be looking up; hope the Waxman is putting in for more staff fundings!
Well, off to catch up on the gang from late nite………
Waving to Blue Dido, if you’re lurking out there
Busy, busy busy thread.
I’ll have to reread it after work.
The links themselves are extraordinary.
Thanks to all of you investigators.
Good morning, pups. It’s Nicholas Kristof on genocide and Rory Stewart on a book by Tolstoy that should go on Bush’s summer reading list.
http://mgpaquin.blogspot.com/
I like the light at the end of the day, but waking up when it’s dark is tiresome… (I seem to be channeling Punaise…) {shuffles off for another cup of tea}
Mornin’.
looseheadprop—
When I open my eyes a little I see United States Attorneys being pressured to help rig congressional and gubernatorial elections. Including massive election fraud.
And the uncooperative ones being fired.
A nightmare? Or a living nightmare?
egregious,
It sure does seem like a HUGE possibility.
I want to be so careful to fact check everything.
Checking out Josh Marshall and kos. brb
Can state level secretaries of state and state AG’s be recalled? Does it vary by state, and who would know?
That old house of cards, it’s gonna come tumbling down. Ugly stuff is happening.
Good mornin’, folks.
As the Gonzales action heats up, I had a couple of thoughts:
1) Should he be forced out of the AG position, by whatever means, can we now assume that any nominated replacement by the Shrub Administration would get a thorough vetting in the Senate? I still see a lot of Liebermans and other enablers in that Chamber, unfortunately.
2) Any thoughts on who might be next in line for said nomination? All this talk is making me wonder whether there’s already another list in Uncle Rove’s hands…
Mornin’ all!
Morning. I couldn’t sleep and started reading all the links. Bush’s house is falling. Man there are so many brilliant people here. How about our Rayne?
Good morning, FirePups.
I see that The Today Show would like us to believe the two biggest stories in front of us today are 1) General Pace’s comments about gays and 2) “divorces” (mind you, not infidelity) among the Republican presidential candidates.
Useless. Fricking useless.
The ultimate bit of uselessness is having DeeDee Meyers and Bay Buchanan comment about the latter story. Sucking air.
I”m late to this party, but when Andrea Mitchell sez
“They’re going to try to really tamp this down and appeal to the polling which indicates that most people think, in fact, that he should be pardoned. Scooter Libby should be pardoned…”
She means “They’re going to try to really tamp this down and appeal to the polling which indicates that most people IN POWER WHO REALLY MATTER think, in fact, that he should be pardoned. Scooter Libby should be pardoned.” It’s a different sort of focus group.
Dang, Rayne. How can you already be up? Or did you not get to sleep?
Jeepers…I just realized that dead air is the BEST the right-wing Wurlitzer could come up with in response to the NYT and WaPo reports.
Man, I am slow. I need coffee, lots of it.
No rest for the wicked, Terry. ;-)
Besides, I have to take my son to school now.
I will say one good thing about Andrea Mitchell.
Her jacket!
http://images.google.com/imgre…..n&sa=G
Ooooooh, first caller question on Washington Journal – “Should gonzo resign?”……..
twolf -
S/b interesting to see the wingers reactions on this one ;-)
OK, and away we go……
Clinton did it too. (absolutely *no* creativity this early in the morning)
I absolutely think he should resign. (there’s an outlier for ‘ya)
I support the AG and don’t think he s/b fired.
It’s just a slow news day.
Clinton did it too.
Clinton did it too. et al
Jeeeeezzz, these guys didn’t eat their Wheaties this morning; they’re dragging the bottom of the battle. [me edit….that “battle” was supposed to be “barrel” but I’m gonna go with door #1.] *g*
Waccmaw – I liked the lady that called earlier and ended with “a little old lady like me shouldn’t have to listen to this ragging on the president every morning.” (apparently she had the vapors)
(On Cspan, I think there are some Democrats calling in on the republic line now…)
twolf -
To my ear Lynn Woosley isn’t coming across as the most articulate Dem representative to talk against war funding; what’s your take?
Back to the need for a speaker’s bureau………
Waccamaw @ 413
Agreed. Some of the callers have done a better job.
Andrea had just left the A*P*C Costume Ball.
Cheney made her moist.
Girl can’t help herself.
White House mulled firing all prosecutors
Good Morning, Firepups,
Overcast and mild this morning in central Jersey. Coffee’s hot, a big pot of French roast, so help yourself.
[Raises her mug o’ java] Here’s hoping things keeps getting worse for Abu Gonzalez.
TPM has posted a section of the supplemental appropriations bill, which will cut off funding for the war in 2008. I haven’t finished reading it yet, but Greg Sargent’s brief analysis highlights the major points: not as tough as we would have liked but the bill will have enough votes to pass. Do read the comments on the post, because they summarize the mixed feelings that we will all have: it isn’t as much as we want, worries about whether the Dems will “own” this war as much as Bush if they pass this supplemental.
I want the US out of Iraq, as quickly as possible, just like a majority of Americans do. But putting the brakes on the runaway train that is the Bush-Cheney administration’s endless war is a very difficult thing to make happen. This is one time when I will take much less than a whole loaf. I’ll be happy with anything that draws a line, and starts the drawdown of forces. Voltaire was right [in this case]: the perfect is the enemy of the good.
Work for peace, every day.
new thread upstairs
njprogressive @
417
Voltaire also thought Katherine the Great was the ideal ruler.
Compromise is the heart of democracy but acceptance of evil is not compromise. It is surrender.
The war will go on and the politicians will cry that they were really against it but they had to vote for it because none would join them.
BTW Voltaire was left, not right. Voltaire was – Lord help us – a liberal, unlike most here who style themselves progressives. :-)
Best, Terry
Jeepers. Matt Sludge’s site really does refresh itself and I wasn’t on it I think for more than 10 minutes.
politicalpollyanna @
181
Um, what do you mean? People sound like that in Mighigan — OK, well the southern peninsula, anyway. Those yoopers up north talk *really* funny, though.
twolf1 @ 410
Speeewww!
GSD @
254
Pro’ly EPU’d, but I keep saying if we are still voting on those damned machines in Nov 2008 this is the last time we will see *any* Dems in office who are not owned by Them. The win in 2006 was a flue due to some very bad luck for Them (thank you, George Allen and Mark Foley!) and to some incredible efforts by Us, eg Howard Dean and the netroots.
Avi Rubin testified to Congress on Wed (his testimony here). He also reviews Florida State U’s study of the ES&S software used in Sarasota Co — he was surprised! — and, um, has a few words to say about vote rigging on American Idol.
To be an informed electorate we need net neutrality and accurate vote tabulation. With those tools we can do all the rest. (/soapbox)
The ‘unique visitors’ figure is usually determined by a browser cookie, not the number of page refreshes. If Drudge accurately reports this figure, page refresh rate will not change it.
One very misleading statistic is the number of hits your site gets. This figure includes every image on a page, which could be hundreds on the first request. A page refresh might cause all images to be reloaded as well.
cows tail
Mike,
Can her ass, coulter is not what I would call worth reading, or listening to. Calling for the death of people, calling people faggots and all the other bullshit that comes out of her mouth is not what I and many others would call news, it is hate speech and anyone who does this is beyond, way beyond the pale of political commentary. There is no First Amendment right to spew hate.
I don’t care if you are a conservative paper, that is a valid philosophy.
Coulter goes irresponsiblly beyond that, and she should be provided no platform to spout her excrementitious diatribes…again can her ass.
Regards,
Maddy
I know I am last and not as witty as some, but I am just as fucking angry.