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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/message-sent/#comment-553856</link>
		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-553727&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kathleen @ 172&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-553702&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rayne @ 171 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Leaving this deep in EPU for those folks who obviously need it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Look, this was an open thread.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If folks don’t like the subject some of us are discussing, they are free to talk about whatever you choose, but not to demand the blog conform to their needs.  Commenters demanding content on particular topics cannot expect participants to give them the time of day when they insult the blog’s owners and its operation because they don’t take on a particular project.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What if I decided to have a hizzy over this blog not covering the topic of Avian Flu and pandemic prevention?  What if I accused the blog owner of suppressing me because I used brand drug names in my comments demanding coverage that got my posts stuck in auto-moderation?  What if my entreaties and insulting comments took up roughly 10 percent of the comments in a thread, and encouraged a reaction that took up another 25 percent of the thread?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you think that the folks who’ve worked so diligently to build a brand from their personal passions might not be a bit piqued, particularly if they were insulted for not permitting someone to hijack their blog?  Do you think that the readers who came here for that particular brand realized in specific content might not also be piqued?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And what if there are simply better blogs out there that actually cover Avian Flu — wouldn’t  my time be better spent visiting that blog than trying to force this blog with different objectives to comply with my needs?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you don’t see what you like here, there are now hundreds of millions of blogs and likely one that suits you.  Namaste.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;More of that “love it or leave it” hogwash.  A healthy discussion and healthy questions should not pose a threat.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Man: Well, &lt;strike&gt;an argument’s&lt;/strike&gt; a discussion’s not the same as contradiction.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr Vibrating: It can be.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Man: No it can’t. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a definite proposition.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr Vibrating: No it isn’t.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Man: Yes it is. It isn’t just contradiction.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr Vibrating: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Man: But it isn’t just saying “No it isn’t”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr Vibrating: Yes it is.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Man: No it isn’t, an argument is an intellectual process… contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr Vibrating: No it isn’t.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Man: Yes it is.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr Vibrating: Not at all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Man: Now look!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr Vibrating:(pressing the bell on his desk) Thank you, good morning.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-553727"><em>Kathleen @ 172</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-553702"><em>Rayne @ 171 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Leaving this deep in EPU for those folks who obviously need it. </p>
<p>Look, this was an open thread.</p>
<p>If folks don’t like the subject some of us are discussing, they are free to talk about whatever you choose, but not to demand the blog conform to their needs.  Commenters demanding content on particular topics cannot expect participants to give them the time of day when they insult the blog’s owners and its operation because they don’t take on a particular project.  </p>
<p>What if I decided to have a hizzy over this blog not covering the topic of Avian Flu and pandemic prevention?  What if I accused the blog owner of suppressing me because I used brand drug names in my comments demanding coverage that got my posts stuck in auto-moderation?  What if my entreaties and insulting comments took up roughly 10 percent of the comments in a thread, and encouraged a reaction that took up another 25 percent of the thread?</p>
<p>Do you think that the folks who’ve worked so diligently to build a brand from their personal passions might not be a bit piqued, particularly if they were insulted for not permitting someone to hijack their blog?  Do you think that the readers who came here for that particular brand realized in specific content might not also be piqued?</p>
<p>And what if there are simply better blogs out there that actually cover Avian Flu — wouldn’t  my time be better spent visiting that blog than trying to force this blog with different objectives to comply with my needs?</p>
<p>If you don’t see what you like here, there are now hundreds of millions of blogs and likely one that suits you.  Namaste.</p>
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<p>More of that “love it or leave it” hogwash.  A healthy discussion and healthy questions should not pose a threat.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Man: Well, <strike>an argument’s</strike> a discussion’s not the same as contradiction.</p>
<p>Mr Vibrating: It can be.</p>
<p>Man: No it can’t. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a definite proposition.</p>
<p>Mr Vibrating: No it isn’t.</p>
<p>Man: Yes it is. It isn’t just contradiction.</p>
<p>Mr Vibrating: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.</p>
<p>Man: But it isn’t just saying “No it isn’t”.</p>
<p>Mr Vibrating: Yes it is.</p>
<p>Man: No it isn’t, an argument is an intellectual process… contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.</p>
<p>Mr Vibrating: No it isn’t.</p>
<p>Man: Yes it is.</p>
<p>Mr Vibrating: Not at all.</p>
<p>Man: Now look!</p>
<p>Mr Vibrating:(pressing the bell on his desk) Thank you, good morning.</p>
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		<title>By: George Porges</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/message-sent/#comment-553840</link>
		<dc:creator>George Porges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Watching the reaction to the Libby conviction is somewhat surreal. The usual right wing suspects have all lined up to decry the “injustice” of the verdict. Their shrill argument that Fitzpatrick overstepped his discretionary power since it had already been “established” that the underlying crime of malicious exposure of a CIA agent had not happened, and that the “leaker” had already been known is cleverly, (and cynically if you have any sympathy for Libby,) intended to keep Libby at the center of the debate rather than allow the questions of why Libby committed such obvious lies, which could only lead to Cheney and Bush. But of course, no one ever accused this Administration of being squeamish about playing hardball. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One wonders whether those complaining about the overstepping of prosecutorial discretion might have similarly argued that once Eliot Ness realized he couldn’t get Al Capone convicted of the St Valentine’s Day massacre, checking his tax returns was uncalled for? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;President Bush might find it difficult to grant Scooter a pardon, since he didn’t show such compassion to those on death row, male or female, when he was Governor of Texas.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching the reaction to the Libby conviction is somewhat surreal. The usual right wing suspects have all lined up to decry the “injustice” of the verdict. Their shrill argument that Fitzpatrick overstepped his discretionary power since it had already been “established” that the underlying crime of malicious exposure of a CIA agent had not happened, and that the “leaker” had already been known is cleverly, (and cynically if you have any sympathy for Libby,) intended to keep Libby at the center of the debate rather than allow the questions of why Libby committed such obvious lies, which could only lead to Cheney and Bush. But of course, no one ever accused this Administration of being squeamish about playing hardball. </p>
<p>One wonders whether those complaining about the overstepping of prosecutorial discretion might have similarly argued that once Eliot Ness realized he couldn’t get Al Capone convicted of the St Valentine’s Day massacre, checking his tax returns was uncalled for? </p>
<p>President Bush might find it difficult to grant Scooter a pardon, since he didn’t show such compassion to those on death row, male or female, when he was Governor of Texas.</p>
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		<title>By: Educated Plaintiff</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/message-sent/#comment-553754</link>
		<dc:creator>Educated Plaintiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;on harry shearer’s “le show” he sometimes does a bit about “41″ &amp; “43″ having a father-son talk (he does the voices for both).  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;on today’s show “43″ asks “41″ if he thinks he should pardon libby.  “41″ replies, (not a tanscript - just my memory),  why should you have to pardon liddy?    i thought we already dealt w/ that, thought he had a radio show now.  “43″ says libby - not liddy.  “41″ then chuckles &amp; says oh - consider that a republican senior moment. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;much funnier to hear harry do it.   he usually puts his most recent show online after they have aired on all the affiliates.  rt now march 4th show is still up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://harryshearer.com/leshow/&quot;&gt;http://harryshearer.com/leshow/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on harry shearer’s “le show” he sometimes does a bit about “41″ &amp; “43″ having a father-son talk (he does the voices for both).  </p>
<p>on today’s show “43″ asks “41″ if he thinks he should pardon libby.  “41″ replies, (not a tanscript &#8211; just my memory),  why should you have to pardon liddy?    i thought we already dealt w/ that, thought he had a radio show now.  “43″ says libby &#8211; not liddy.  “41″ then chuckles &amp; says oh &#8211; consider that a republican senior moment. </p>
<p>much funnier to hear harry do it.   he usually puts his most recent show online after they have aired on all the affiliates.  rt now march 4th show is still up.</p>
<p><a href="http://harryshearer.com/leshow/">http://harryshearer.com/leshow/</a></p>
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		<title>By: theExile</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/message-sent/#comment-553739</link>
		<dc:creator>theExile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Give it a rest Kathleen - you are repeating yourself!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Give it a rest Kathleen &#8211; you are repeating yourself!</b></p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/message-sent/#comment-553727</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-553702&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rayne @ 171 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Leaving this deep in EPU for those folks who obviously need it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Look, this was an open thread.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If folks don’t like the subject some of us are discussing, they are free to talk about whatever you choose, but not to demand the blog conform to their needs.  Commenters demanding content on particular topics cannot expect participants to give them the time of day when they insult the blog’s owners and its operation because they don’t take on a particular project.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What if I decided to have a hizzy over this blog not covering the topic of Avian Flu and pandemic prevention?  What if I accused the blog owner of suppressing me because I used brand drug names in my comments demanding coverage that got my posts stuck in auto-moderation?  What if my entreaties and insulting comments took up roughly 10 percent of the comments in a thread, and encouraged a reaction that took up another 25 percent of the thread?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you think that the folks who’ve worked so diligently to build a brand from their personal passions might not be a bit piqued, particularly if they were insulted for not permitting someone to hijack their blog?  Do you think that the readers who came here for that particular brand realized in specific content might not also be piqued?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And what if there are simply better blogs out there that actually cover Avian Flu — wouldn’t  my time be better spent visiting that blog than trying to force this blog with different objectives to comply with my needs?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you don’t see what you like here, there are now hundreds of millions of blogs and likely one that suits you.  Namaste.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;More of that “love it or leave it” hogwash.  A healthy discussion and healthy questions should not pose a threat.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-553702"><em>Rayne @ 171 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Leaving this deep in EPU for those folks who obviously need it. </p>
<p>Look, this was an open thread.</p>
<p>If folks don’t like the subject some of us are discussing, they are free to talk about whatever you choose, but not to demand the blog conform to their needs.  Commenters demanding content on particular topics cannot expect participants to give them the time of day when they insult the blog’s owners and its operation because they don’t take on a particular project.  </p>
<p>What if I decided to have a hizzy over this blog not covering the topic of Avian Flu and pandemic prevention?  What if I accused the blog owner of suppressing me because I used brand drug names in my comments demanding coverage that got my posts stuck in auto-moderation?  What if my entreaties and insulting comments took up roughly 10 percent of the comments in a thread, and encouraged a reaction that took up another 25 percent of the thread?</p>
<p>Do you think that the folks who’ve worked so diligently to build a brand from their personal passions might not be a bit piqued, particularly if they were insulted for not permitting someone to hijack their blog?  Do you think that the readers who came here for that particular brand realized in specific content might not also be piqued?</p>
<p>And what if there are simply better blogs out there that actually cover Avian Flu — wouldn’t  my time be better spent visiting that blog than trying to force this blog with different objectives to comply with my needs?</p>
<p>If you don’t see what you like here, there are now hundreds of millions of blogs and likely one that suits you.  Namaste.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>More of that “love it or leave it” hogwash.  A healthy discussion and healthy questions should not pose a threat.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/message-sent/#comment-553702</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Leaving this deep in EPU for those folks who obviously need it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Look, this was an open thread.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If folks don’t like the subject some of us are discussing, they are free to talk about whatever you choose, but not to demand the blog conform to their needs.  Commenters demanding content on particular topics cannot expect participants to give them the time of day when they insult the blog’s owners and its operation because they don’t take on a particular project.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What if I decided to have a hizzy over this blog not covering the topic of Avian Flu and pandemic prevention?  What if I accused the blog owner of suppressing me because I used brand drug names in my comments demanding coverage that got my posts stuck in auto-moderation?  What if my entreaties and insulting comments took up roughly 10 percent of the comments in a thread, and encouraged a reaction that took up another 25 percent of the thread?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you think that the folks who’ve worked so diligently to build a brand from their personal passions might not be a bit piqued, particularly if they were insulted for not permitting someone to hijack their blog?  Do you think that the readers who came here for that particular brand realized in specific content might not also be piqued?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And what if there are simply better blogs out there that actually cover Avian Flu — wouldn’t  my time be better spent visiting that blog than trying to force this blog with different objectives to comply with my needs?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you don’t see what you like here, there are now hundreds of millions of blogs and likely one that suits you.  Namaste.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leaving this deep in EPU for those folks who obviously need it. </p>
<p>Look, this was an open thread.</p>
<p>If folks don’t like the subject some of us are discussing, they are free to talk about whatever you choose, but not to demand the blog conform to their needs.  Commenters demanding content on particular topics cannot expect participants to give them the time of day when they insult the blog’s owners and its operation because they don’t take on a particular project.  </p>
<p>What if I decided to have a hizzy over this blog not covering the topic of Avian Flu and pandemic prevention?  What if I accused the blog owner of suppressing me because I used brand drug names in my comments demanding coverage that got my posts stuck in auto-moderation?  What if my entreaties and insulting comments took up roughly 10 percent of the comments in a thread, and encouraged a reaction that took up another 25 percent of the thread?</p>
<p>Do you think that the folks who’ve worked so diligently to build a brand from their personal passions might not be a bit piqued, particularly if they were insulted for not permitting someone to hijack their blog?  Do you think that the readers who came here for that particular brand realized in specific content might not also be piqued?</p>
<p>And what if there are simply better blogs out there that actually cover Avian Flu — wouldn’t  my time be better spent visiting that blog than trying to force this blog with different objectives to comply with my needs?</p>
<p>If you don’t see what you like here, there are now hundreds of millions of blogs and likely one that suits you.  Namaste.</p>
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		<title>By: terry hallinan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/message-sent/#comment-553615</link>
		<dc:creator>terry hallinan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-553507&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;theExile @&lt;br /&gt;
                169              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Terry regarding:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nixon’s opening to China ended the Cold War.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t you think this is a bit over the top, Nixon touring the Great Wall didn’t end the Cold War…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;:-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course Nixon’s witless comments on the Great Wall reminds one of Vacation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That was the culmination of Nixon once again stabbing his friends in the back.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remain astonished to this day at what that hateful little hatemonger accomplished just as Clinton in the opposite way handed over the Democratic Party to the Republicans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No, my friend, I don’t think I am wrong but then most of us who think we know everything don’t easily admit error. :-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best,  Terry&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-553507"><em>theExile @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Terry regarding:</p>
<blockquote><p>Nixon’s opening to China ended the Cold War.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Don’t you think this is a bit over the top, Nixon touring the Great Wall didn’t end the Cold War…</p>
</blockquote>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>Of course Nixon’s witless comments on the Great Wall reminds one of Vacation.</p>
<p>That was the culmination of Nixon once again stabbing his friends in the back.</p>
<p>I remain astonished to this day at what that hateful little hatemonger accomplished just as Clinton in the opposite way handed over the Democratic Party to the Republicans.</p>
<p>No, my friend, I don’t think I am wrong but then most of us who think we know everything don’t easily admit error. :-)</p>
<p>Best,  Terry</p>
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		<title>By: theExile</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/message-sent/#comment-553507</link>
		<dc:creator>theExile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Terry regarding:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nixon’s opening to China ended the Cold War.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t you think this is a bit over the top, Nixon touring the Great Wall didn’t end the Cold War. Mainly it recognized the reality that China wasn’t an island off the mainland, which seemed absurd to me as a child. Maybe it turned the cold war down a notch, because now the Chinese knew we knew they were there (altho they knew we knew anyway, we just wouldn’t admit it publically). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, Nixon the great &lt;strike&gt;diplomat&lt;/strike&gt; dipshit. If it hadn’t been for Nixon and his former boss/buddy Joe McCarthy and the virulent (Cheney like) reds under the bed etc. program, somebody else would have recognized China long before Nixon had the chance to be President. Due to his McCarthy credentials Nixon was the only person who COULD go to China without being branded a COMMUNIST. I will give credit to Nixon for some things, but basically he was an amoral opportunistic politician with no sense of right and wrong. He was a small minded little evil man. But much better than Bush the Lesser or Ronnie Raygun and smarter than both of them put together.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry regarding:</p>
<blockquote><p>Nixon’s opening to China ended the Cold War.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Don’t you think this is a bit over the top, Nixon touring the Great Wall didn’t end the Cold War. Mainly it recognized the reality that China wasn’t an island off the mainland, which seemed absurd to me as a child. Maybe it turned the cold war down a notch, because now the Chinese knew we knew they were there (altho they knew we knew anyway, we just wouldn’t admit it publically). </p>
<p>Yeah, Nixon the great <strike>diplomat</strike> dipshit. If it hadn’t been for Nixon and his former boss/buddy Joe McCarthy and the virulent (Cheney like) reds under the bed etc. program, somebody else would have recognized China long before Nixon had the chance to be President. Due to his McCarthy credentials Nixon was the only person who COULD go to China without being branded a COMMUNIST. I will give credit to Nixon for some things, but basically he was an amoral opportunistic politician with no sense of right and wrong. He was a small minded little evil man. But much better than Bush the Lesser or Ronnie Raygun and smarter than both of them put together.</p>
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		<title>By: terry hallinan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/message-sent/#comment-553476</link>
		<dc:creator>terry hallinan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-553439&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;theExile @ 166&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Terry Best or Best Terry, so which circle of Hell would Carter rate in your estimation compared to say, Nixon, Reagan and Bush the Lesser? Or are those three your idea of good preznits.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You will be most unhappy with this I fear.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In my view Nixon and Wilson ran the only liberal presidencies of the 20th Century. Oddly both were despised, mean-spirited racists, who did terrific damage to their party for a generation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nixon’s opening to China ended the Cold War.  His beginnings of a kind of no-fault welfare plan prescribed by Daniel Moynihan might have achieved the egalitarian society that liberals have always dreamed of in the past if not eviscerated by Carter and his heirs.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am not in anyway minimizing Nixon’s virulent antisemitism, his continuation of the Cold War and crimes that would have brought impeachment had he hung around.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Carter’s imagined hate of government did not prevent him from expanding the power of government, spending, debt and all that conservatives like him do.  It was the beginning of fiscal insanity that has culminated in America being transformed from the world’s biggest creditor to the world’s biggest mooch with the Reagan dictum borrowed from Milton Friedman that debt doesn’t matter. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Takes a special someone to make me pine for Nixon. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best,  Terry&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-553439"><em>theExile @ 166</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Terry Best or Best Terry, so which circle of Hell would Carter rate in your estimation compared to say, Nixon, Reagan and Bush the Lesser? Or are those three your idea of good preznits.</p>
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<p>You will be most unhappy with this I fear.</p>
<p>In my view Nixon and Wilson ran the only liberal presidencies of the 20th Century. Oddly both were despised, mean-spirited racists, who did terrific damage to their party for a generation.</p>
<p>Nixon’s opening to China ended the Cold War.  His beginnings of a kind of no-fault welfare plan prescribed by Daniel Moynihan might have achieved the egalitarian society that liberals have always dreamed of in the past if not eviscerated by Carter and his heirs.  </p>
<p>I am not in anyway minimizing Nixon’s virulent antisemitism, his continuation of the Cold War and crimes that would have brought impeachment had he hung around.</p>
<p>Carter’s imagined hate of government did not prevent him from expanding the power of government, spending, debt and all that conservatives like him do.  It was the beginning of fiscal insanity that has culminated in America being transformed from the world’s biggest creditor to the world’s biggest mooch with the Reagan dictum borrowed from Milton Friedman that debt doesn’t matter. </p>
<p>Takes a special someone to make me pine for Nixon. </p>
<p>Best,  Terry</p>
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		<title>By: peanutgallery</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;don’t get me wrong, I love berries too! ;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don’t get me wrong, I love berries too! ;-)</p>
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