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	<title>Comments on: Late Nite FDL: Rovesputin</title>
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		<title>By: vox clamantis in red state</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/late-nite-fdl-rovesputin/#comment-555377</link>
		<dc:creator>vox clamantis in red state</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Petraeus is smart, and when the surge is obviously a failure, may he use his leadership skills to bring the troops back to Washington and remove this infestation of bunglers that is the present administration.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Petraeus is smart, and when the surge is obviously a failure, may he use his leadership skills to bring the troops back to Washington and remove this infestation of bunglers that is the present administration.</p>
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		<title>By: creeper</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/late-nite-fdl-rovesputin/#comment-555194</link>
		<dc:creator>creeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-553912&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;petedownunder @&lt;br /&gt;
                16              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-553903&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TRex @ 8&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I really want one of those pillows.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kropserkel.com/horse_head_pillow.htm&quot;&gt;Here’s &lt;/a&gt; where to get one. $70 plus shipping.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m in the wrong business.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can’t afford the horse pillow but here’s a ten-buck tip for the dinosaur.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-553912"><em>petedownunder @<br />
                16              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-553903"><em>TRex @ 8</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I really want one of those pillows.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.kropserkel.com/horse_head_pillow.htm">Here’s </a> where to get one. $70 plus shipping.</p>
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<p>I’m in the wrong business.</p>
<p>Can’t afford the horse pillow but here’s a ten-buck tip for the dinosaur.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl Clayton</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/late-nite-fdl-rovesputin/#comment-555078</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Please someone, anyone take them all out of office. I really need a break from all of these antics!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please someone, anyone take them all out of office. I really need a break from all of these antics!</p>
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		<title>By: No Blood for Hubris</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/late-nite-fdl-rovesputin/#comment-555009</link>
		<dc:creator>No Blood for Hubris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Scorn rules.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scorn rules.</p>
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		<title>By: RMN</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/late-nite-fdl-rovesputin/#comment-554895</link>
		<dc:creator>RMN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;She’s right. None of them will be held accountable by us mere mortals.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She’s right. None of them will be held accountable by us mere mortals.</p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs, AR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/late-nite-fdl-rovesputin/#comment-554710</link>
		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs, AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-554392&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Wigwam @ 445&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-554373&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rayne @&lt;br /&gt;
                437              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-554371&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Wigwam @ 435&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“A jury of Libby’s peers examined the evidence carefully over 10 days — and they found him guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How’s the rest of that crap going to hold up in court when they stop hiding behind lies?”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess that the thing that bugs me is the red-herring value that they get out of it.  If you digress to dispute the truth of their bullshit, they’ve succeeded in changing the subject away from their own misdeeds.  If you don’t, however, it appears that you are accepting their point.  What’s needed is a single phrase that dismisses their points relevance and credibility, both at once.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And how are those rose colored contacts working out for you?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;More cocktails anyone?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And we’re off to see the wizard!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-554392"><em>Wigwam @ 445</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-554373"><em>Rayne @<br />
                437              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-554371"><em>Wigwam @ 435</em></a></p>
<p>“A jury of Libby’s peers examined the evidence carefully over 10 days — and they found him guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt.</p>
<p>How’s the rest of that crap going to hold up in court when they stop hiding behind lies?”</p>
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<p>I guess that the thing that bugs me is the red-herring value that they get out of it.  If you digress to dispute the truth of their bullshit, they’ve succeeded in changing the subject away from their own misdeeds.  If you don’t, however, it appears that you are accepting their point.  What’s needed is a single phrase that dismisses their points relevance and credibility, both at once.</p>
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<p>And how are those rose colored contacts working out for you?</p>
<p>More cocktails anyone?</p>
<p>And we’re off to see the wizard!</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/late-nite-fdl-rovesputin/#comment-554662</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If there were a strong and organized Democratic party in place then I believe there would be some kind of justice handed out. But the Democratic party is just too weak, feebleminded and disorganized. I mean these guys agreed to have FOX NEWS in charge of their debate ferchrissakes! WTF!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there were a strong and organized Democratic party in place then I believe there would be some kind of justice handed out. But the Democratic party is just too weak, feebleminded and disorganized. I mean these guys agreed to have FOX NEWS in charge of their debate ferchrissakes! WTF!</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/late-nite-fdl-rovesputin/#comment-554519</link>
		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wigwam at 443, and Rayne, too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How about, “So what?”  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I really *hate* having to keep harping on this stuff but it must be done.  Most people’s working knowledge is not based on facts but on an overall fuzzy impression of what is true, and that is largely based on what appears to be a community consensus.  We are social animals and this is a hard-wired trait.   Owning the media allows the VRWC to fabricate an apparent consensus.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So we have to repeat the facts.  The facts have to be real, but the key is repetition, repitition, repetition.  A scornful tone helps, too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wigwam at 443, and Rayne, too.</p>
<p>How about, “So what?”  </p>
<p>I really *hate* having to keep harping on this stuff but it must be done.  Most people’s working knowledge is not based on facts but on an overall fuzzy impression of what is true, and that is largely based on what appears to be a community consensus.  We are social animals and this is a hard-wired trait.   Owning the media allows the VRWC to fabricate an apparent consensus.</p>
<p>So we have to repeat the facts.  The facts have to be real, but the key is repetition, repitition, repetition.  A scornful tone helps, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/late-nite-fdl-rovesputin/#comment-554392</link>
		<dc:creator>Wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-554373&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rayne @&lt;br /&gt;
                437              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-554371&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Wigwam @ 435&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“A jury of Libby’s peers examined the evidence carefully over 10 days — and they found him guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How’s the rest of that crap going to hold up in court when they stop hiding behind lies?”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess that the thing that bugs me is the red-herring value that they get out of it.  If you digress to dispute the truth of their bullshit, they’ve succeeded in changing the subject away from their own misdeeds.  If you don’t, however, it appears that you are accepting their point.  What’s needed is a single phrase that dismisses their points relevance and credibility, both at once.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-554373"><em>Rayne @<br />
                437              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-554371"><em>Wigwam @ 435</em></a></p>
<p>“A jury of Libby’s peers examined the evidence carefully over 10 days — and they found him guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt.</p>
<p>How’s the rest of that crap going to hold up in court when they stop hiding behind lies?”</p>
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<p>I guess that the thing that bugs me is the red-herring value that they get out of it.  If you digress to dispute the truth of their bullshit, they’ve succeeded in changing the subject away from their own misdeeds.  If you don’t, however, it appears that you are accepting their point.  What’s needed is a single phrase that dismisses their points relevance and credibility, both at once.</p>
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		<title>By: annx</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/11/late-nite-fdl-rovesputin/#comment-554384</link>
		<dc:creator>annx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wigwam - your post on irrelevant untruths should be sent to every progressive/democratic talking head. Great job.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wigwam &#8211; your post on irrelevant untruths should be sent to every progressive/democratic talking head. Great job.</p>
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