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From Wiki:
The murder of Rasputin has become legend, some of it invented by the very men who killed him, so that it becomes difficult to discern exactly what happened. However, it is generally agreed that on December 16, 1916, having decided that Rasputin's influence over the tsarina made him too dangerous to the empire, a group of nobles led by Prince Felix Yusupov, and the Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich (one of the few Romanov family members to escape the annihilation of the family) apparently lured Rasputin to the Yusupovs' Moika Palace, where they served him cakes and red wine laced with a large amount of cyanide. According to the legend, Rasputin was not affected, although there was enough poison to kill ten men. Maria Rasputin's account says that if her father ate poison, it was not in the cakes or wine, because after the attack by Guseva, he had hyperacidity, and avoided anything with sugar. She expressed doubt that he was poisoned at all.
Determined to finish the job — and now we are fully in the realm of narrative legend — Yusupov worried that Rasputin would live until morning, so that the conspirators wouldn't have time to conceal his body. He ran upstairs to consult with the others, then came back down and shot Rasputin through the back with a revolver. Rasputin fell. The company then left the palace for a while. Yusupov, who had left without a coat, decided to return to grab one. While at the palace he went to check on the body, Rasputin opened his eyes, grabbed Felix by the throat, strangling him. Rasputin ominously whispered "you bad boy" in Yusupov's ear, and then threw him across the room and escaped. As he made his bid for freedom, the rest of the conspirators arrived and fired at him. After being hit three times in the back, he fell. As they neared his body, they found he remarkably was still struggling and trying to get up so they clubbed him into submission; then, after wrapping his body in a sheet, they threw him into the icy Neva River. Three days later the body of Rasputin — poisoned, shot four times, and badly beaten — was recovered from the river and autopsied. The cause of death was drowning. His arms were apparently found in an upright position, as if he had tried to claw his way out from under the ice. In the autopsy, it was found that he was poisoned, and that the poison alone should have killed him.
WASHINGTON – Presidential advisor Karl Rove and at least one other member of the White House political team were urged by the New Mexico Republican party chairman to fire the state's U.S. attorney because of dissatisfaction in part with his failure to indict Democrats in a voter fraud investigation in the battleground election state.
In an interview Saturday with McClatchy Newspapers, Allen Weh, the party chairman, said he complained in 2005 about then-U.S. Attorney David Iglesias to a White House liaison who worked for Rove and asked that he be removed. Weh said he followed up with Rove personally in late 2006 during a visit to the White House.
"Is anything ever going to happen to that guy?" Weh said he asked Rove at a White House holiday event that month.
"He's gone," Rove said, according to Weh.
"I probably said something close to 'Hallelujah,'" said Weh.
I had a long conversation with a fellow blogger today about whether or not we will ever see justice served up, hot or cold, to any of the thugs in the BushCo junta. My friend is one of those people who can be crushingly cynical, but who also has an irritating habit of being right. She says no, that executive priilege will protect them to the limits of their terms in office and beyond.
I sure hope she's wrong, because if anyone deserves to go down hard and serve a little time in the pokey, it's Unca Karl. Whither subpoenas? Whither prosecution? I read exchanges like the one above about David Iglesias and even things like this:
President Bush and First Lady Laura Bush had dinner last night at the home of Karl and Darby Rove in the upscale Palisades neighborhood of Washington.
When a pool reporter following the president's intown travel stationed outside dispatched an email to Rove inside, asking if the architect of the president's campaigns could spare a doggy bag for the press van, sure enough — out came an emissary bearing a gift of sausage and quail wings.
The press had already called in a pepperoni-and-mushroom pizza from Domino's, but the host's contribution to the press van feast was the most excitement seen outside this residence in a while.
That little bit of high-handedness was the night before the Libby verdict was read, leading Christy to speculate that Rove was making oblique reference to the office of the Vice President, a suspicion that would seem to be borne out here:
An 'Out of Control' Veep's Office
Conservatives are clamoring for a Libby pardon. But don't count on Bush to go along—at least not yet.
Ooooh! I wonder who wrote this!
By Michael Isikoff and Richard WolffeNewsweek
The prospect of Libby's serving time is fueling an intense debate in Washington: should President Bush pardon him? Conservatives immediately began agitating for clemency, arguing that Fitzgerald, unable to convict anyone for leaking, had made Libby a scapegoat. Vice President Dick Cheney may also weigh in. Former and current colleagues, who asked not to be named
talking about private conversations, say Cheney has been shaken by the prosecution of his former chief of staff. Out of obligation and duty, Cheney is almost certain to press Bush to pardon his close friend and protégé.
That reluctance to bend the rules may stem from a feeling inside the White House that Libby, though loyal and well liked, went too far. Even if Bush is "sad" about Libby's conviction, Libby did lie to the FBI and made the administration look bad. "What you saw was a vice president's office that was out of control," says a former White House staffer who asked not to be named talking about internal discussions. According to trial testimony, White House aides Karl Rove and Ari Fleischer both disclosed the identity of Wilson's wife to reporters. But the way the White House sees it, Rove and Fleischer "went up to the line," the staffer says, "but they didn't cross it. The vice president's office crossed it." Now Bush has to decide how long he'll make Libby wait on the other side.

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TRex!
never been this far up before.. :)
Howdy, kids!
Wow, just forking wow. That is some powerful writing, TRex. Good stuff that makes me think.
Hi TRex,
I hope you’re feeling much better.
>Who on our side is going to have the stomach to take him down?
I hope it happens, TRex. And not only because I desperately need the material for my new literary endeavor, Evil Doctor Puma’s Pressed Bush Administration Officials Book.
Good Zed, LoudounLib. Good evening Trex. It will take a tough sheriff to bring down the Rover, but there must be a ton of evidence somewhere and I’m sure he’s made enough enemies that someone is sure to have made sure that the good stuff is stashed away from the shredders.
I really want one of those pillows.
Rove = Over…
Strategerie @ 5
Okay, my comment got cut off.
I can only hope that Mr. Rove is not quite as invincible as he seems. November 7th went a long way to showing how irrelevant he now is.
I’m afraid there’s nobody in the current administration that will take him down. His slavish devotion to the Boy King makes them want to keep him around. I’m also sure he has information on those still in the executive branch that makes the revelations of the Libby trial look minor.
-S
and g’day there, petedownunder!
Those are expensive those pillows, imported from Sicily, no?
Wow
just wow
Driving by to say well done, my little theropod.
tommy yum @ 13
Greetings!!
How are you? How’s Esten?
TRex @ 8
Here’s where to get one. $70 plus shipping.
yummy! my favorite topic, karl rove.
ot
my monte verde artista came yesterday and i can’t quit writing with it. i rolled part of the sunday funnies inside the barrel for a bit of color. thanks for pitching this pen. it’s a delight.
MCCLELLAN: Those individuals — I spoke with those individuals, as I pointed out and those individuals assured me they were not involved in this and that’s where it stands.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA…..kl.01.html
No pardon, bank on it. Hell hath no fury like a Bush scorned
squirrel hiller @
17
Oooh! Jealous, jealous, jealous…
Where did you order it from?
LoudounLib @ 10
G’day LoudounLib.
Art Brown in Manhattan. and they sent a to drool over fountain pen catalog with it.
I watched Fox News Sunday this morning. Fred Thompson was on purportedly trying to decide whether to run for president. My opinion is that he was there to be a shill for the Libby pardon as he has lead the effort to raise funds for Libby defense. I could have screamed. Then came the roundtable mostly again about Libby and the trial being so “unjust”. I think they were assuming, probably correctly, that their viewers did not read any trial testimony or God forbid read the amazing FDL blog.
In the letters section, Chris Wallace said he had received many letters regarding the USA’s being purged all asking “what did Clinton do?” Chris said “we didn’t know so we checked”…………and sure enough Clinton fired all 93 USA’s when he came into office.
I yelled at the tv and promptly wrote FNS an email advising him that I recognized the usual “Fox” spin and that of course Clinton fired everyone when he came in office. The difference is that only malfeasance and moral clause violations, etc. get anyone fired before the end of the term. Not that I think it will get on the air, but maybe if lots of people write, they will be forced to acknowledge their incomplete presentation of the facts.
squirrel hiller @ 21
I have that same catalog from when I ordered some ink. Unbelievable, isn’t it.
Drool, drool.
If you could have any pen out of that catalog, regardless of the expense, which would it be?
TRex @ 22
Pen porn?
I think Rove will go down in history as one of the major players responsible for ushering in a period of extended one party domination of American politics.
Thanks to Rove’s incessant but unsuccessful efforts to game every American institution on behalf of the Republicans, that dominant party will be the Democrats.
ok, i don’t have the catalog with me but there was a reddish plaid pen somewhere a little more than half way thru the catalog. that’s the one i liked. and u?
petedownunder @ 16
An offer I can’t refuse…
No! I didn’t actually post that!
Does the pen porn catalog have links?
squirrel hiller @ 25
can you and Trex get a room. Jeez.
Pen porn and horse head pillows, this used to a be a classy blog. Anyway, good night pups, I’m off to dream of Rover in a bright orange jump suit.
http://www.artbrown.com/
where i got the monte verde artista pen, a moderately priced fine writing instrument
g’night pete
kraftysue @ 22
Shorter FAUX News: Facts are for the little people.
Shorter Fred Thompson: Please save Scooter Libby from that mean ol’ federal prosecutor who has nothing better to do with his time than prosecute criminal behavior. Call the WAAAmbulance!
kraftysue, you are truly brave. I can’t watch that stuff because we’d be buying a new TV, just after I put my foot through it.
-S
petedownunder @ 24
Penography.
http://www.realcities.com/mld/…..878479.htm
here’s a little tinder to add to your rove fire, trex
here, have another marshmallow, and remember for the best smores, you gotta wait a minute and let the chocolate melt before eating……your size marshmallow would be the one from ghostbusters……ha……..
stephen parrish cpa posted the link in an earlier thread…….
i’m not often up late enough for your threads, when i am i usually lurk cuz i’m half asleep by then, but i read them all later———they’re lovely……..
Waxman’s going to take him down, down, down.
Thanks, squirrel.
Karl? Is that you? It smells like Vienna sausages and Astro-Glide in here, so it must be you.
TRex!
Well.. if we can’t get ride of Turdblossom, maybe our Congressional leadership can keep him preoccupied with daily subpeonas. Waxman, Murtha etc should force him to take a permanent office on Capital Hill.
some gratuitous latenight entertainment courtesy of Foxnews: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0…..tml… Dems who want impeachment would’ve impeached Lincoln! :)
squirrel hiller @ 26
I want a blue Visconti Wall Street. Although I’m not sure I’d really want the full sized one. A pen that’s too big and cumbersome is just as bad as a pen that’s too small.
Still, $550 for a pen. Whew!
Of course the first pen I look at costs $310…it’s so gorgeous!
“Hello, Wilbur…“
Terry Olson @ 36
From your lips to god’s ears, my child.
TRex @
15
He’s okay. Been throwing up a lot. There’s a GI bug that’s been going around, or it could be that they need to adjust his meds. Bottom line is that he probably won’t go to school this week, or even to the clinic on Tuesday. Just as well, as they’re gonna hit him with some hard stuff. We’ll talk to them in the morning and get it sorted. I’m not unduly concerned, but hate to see his tail dragging.
Thanks for asking. Good night–it’s going to be a long week so I’m hitting the sack.
Quick question – has daylight saving started in the US?
I too wish to see Rove, amongst others, go way down.
I think Fitz was close to getting Rove, until Viveca tipped off Rove’s attorney. Judy tried to save Libby; Viv saved Rove. They have much to answer for.
Trex @ 40
that is such a lucious color.
good choice.
the artista may be simple but the shape and balance are right for me.
(i wanted to say the lengh and thickness, but…)
Cliff Varnell @ 25
I am in optimistic agreement with your forecast.
Bush right now is the scandal pinata–You hit him with a stick and another scandal drops out. This week alone, we started with Walter Reed and the federal prosecutor filings, picked up Scooter’s conviction and had an FBI abuse of power at the end of the week (not to mention generals threatening to resign if Iran is attacked and a 20% increase in the escalation over what Bush originally asked).
In the old days, those would have been scandals enough to last for months, not just run through in a mere week.
The craven republicans who are following Bush’s and Rove’s game plan have created such a record of incompetence and malice that no thinking American would elect them–individually or as a party–back into office again, ever.
Best line on Rove’s skills and limits, from another FDL blogger: “He thought he could run the country like a dirty tricks campaign for township mayor in South Carolina.”
WH confirms Rove’s role:
http://www.belleville.com/mld/…..884128.htm
That last sentence would mean he DID suggest they be fired.
squirrel hiller @ 47
That sideways striping is really hard to do with celluloid, apparently, which is why the pen is so pricey. But of course, that’s exactly what makes me swoon over it. It recalls a certain Parker (I think) pen from the 20’s.
Squirrel and TRex are pen pals.
Debbie(aussie) – yes, daylight savings time has started here
bad people punish themselves. I don’t worry about justice for the gwb crowd
I worry about protecting our children from their ruinous legasy
but you know that
Pi Day is coming up this Wednesday.
(I feel like so much less of a geek after reading that article.)
Trex @ 50
That pen brings to mind cary grant in a wool double breasted navy pin stripe suit.
Who would buy a pen over $4?
squirrel hiller @ 55
Sigh…
That’s the most flattering picture of Rove I’ve ever seen!
ccmask @ 56
Heh.
I just can’t help it.
No matter how photoshopped the (ugh) Rove visage, the first thing that always pops into my mind like a brain worm is a picture of a roast pig on a platter with an apple in its mouth.
ccmask @ 56
TRex and Squirrel.
In the Scooter Libby tradition of “call me a former Hill staffer, Judy,” be mindful that either Condi or AbuG can, technically, be called
Alternatively, WaPo once had a policy to name the unnamed source somewhere in the same article, so it might be Ari. Somehow, I see Ari frozen out now, though. {snitch!!}
What possible purpose did the fawning press corps have in revealing their own sycophancy in accepting the scraps from Rove’s table, anyway? That story’s got me puzzled, except it was quail wings — someone hereabouts called that an underhanded Cheney reference. And who reads incoming email when the boss and his Prime Wife OfGeorge are over for dinner, anyway? Or was that another way Rover established primacy over the BoyKing?
Wheels within wheels. On fire.
I was wondering, Bush’s former speechwriter, Michael J. Gerson (who coined Axis of Evil)was supposed to begin working for the Washington Post in January. I wonder where he will pop up?
TRex @ 59
lol
Re: Rove pics
This classic is still my favorite though.
Visualizing…
Renee, I love that pic.
Yeah Renee. That picture is high on my wish list.
Thanks LoudounLib
Oh, yes, Renee.
SusanD @ 60
Is that so
;>)
Renee in Ohio @ 54
Also my 39th…so I guess I’ll be blowing out the candles on my birthday pi.
darkblack @ 70
I was just about to link to that picture.
EvilDrPuma @ 71
Hey, my 39th is this year!
db, you are a master artist ;-)
Uh…darkblack? I think I’m gonna have nightmares tonight.
ccmask @ 56
i don’t buy jewelry so i justified my 50 buck purchase that way. it also gave my writing a shot in the arm. a fountain pen transports one back in time when letter and journal writing was in vogue.
i think those expensive pens are so wrong. i just don’t believe in an expensive lifestyle. there are so many ways all that pen money could help the world.
TRex @ 73
stop! you are making me feel like an old OldCoastie!
;-)
TRex @ 73
Yeah, I remember reading before that we’re the same age. Well, and Patrick too, of course.
TRex @ 73
Bunch of spring chickens.
trex;
i sent you an email with something hilarious in it……..but forgot to include my ‘dmac’ so you would know who it was from…….the email address has in it three numbers and the word ‘frog’ so you know which one………
tacky, but really funny.
Dear Squirrel Hiller, 15217? Spent many happy years there. Still miss the Waldorf Bakery.
Dear TRex, GREAT commentary. I’ll never think of the Turd Blossom as anything other than Rovesputin again. So apt!
Terry Olson @ 79
Hey, don’t get cocky.
TRex @ 72
There’s always this one
;>)
I have detailed files on Karl…He’s a rich subject.
OldCoastie @77 – you and me both!
I have always believed that we would have had a Jeb! presidency if it weren’t for the fact that Karl Rove had a man-crush on Dubya.
Yes. I’ve been 39 twenty-four times already.
Darkblack,you good!
SusanD @ 86
you funny!
Bunch of nasty little eighth grade gossips — that’s the portrait they’ve painted of themselves. CIA covert operative? Loyal Federal prosecutor? Former charge d’affaires, Baghdad? “Fair game,” every one.
Recipe for roves d’oeuvres
Coat bottom of heavy iron skillet liberally with Astro-Glide. Heat on burner at high. When Astro-Glide begins smoking, gently add Vienna sausages, one by one. Watch carefully, and turn so that each surface is uniformly blackened. Then, cut each sausage into several pieces, using sharp knife or kitchen scissors. Spear each piece with a toothpick. Remove to serving dish. Arrange with small pieces of rat cheese and slices of ripe tomato, to form an attractive pattern. Pass plate to guests, and gently suggest that they recycle the toothpicks.
Alicia-Are you from Florida? I noticed the exclamation point behind jeb!’s name…
Alicia @ 85
I’m not sure it was so much a man-crush as a certain knowledge that Dubya was the most easily manipulated of Bar’s unholy get.
TeddySanFran,
I think (hope) they’re gonna find out what fair game is all about.
It seems to me that the neocons see the law as their own personal weapon. To be used only to achieve their own nefarious ends. And the law is no longer valid when they run afoul of it.
Jukesgrrl @ 81
Thanks for reminding me!
Waldorf Bakery! with those little old ladies who worked there. i used to get some rolled pastry concoction filled with raspberriy jam and covered with powdered sugar.
too bad the thing burned down. it was right around the corner from my grad aptment and up the street from Bageland.
Pillow looks kinda comfy.
Stuck in Phoenix on my way to Austin — US Air strikes again. But I really want to talk to Dan Rather tomorrow so I’m up at 4:30 am tomorrow to get there.
Grrrr…..
Great post BTW, TRex. You just get better and better, doncha? Gonna have to retire that tazer.
I still want Rove frog-marched in handcuffs out of the White House.
doesn’t Rove look like the kind of guy that should be suffering from early onset heart disease?
or severe intestinal issues?
or just anything that might keep him from being such a nasty busy little man?
SusanD @ 94
It seems to me that you’re pretty much right.
Okay I’m kidding about the tazer but the rest of it is true.
Hi Suzanne!
It’s also Einstein’s birthday on the 14th. That strikes me as a cool birthday to share.
Renee in Ohio @ 103
What do you mean, “share?”
LoudounLib @ 74
‘Stop it, LL, you big tease’
;>)
SusanD @ 75
Think happy thoughts, SusanD.
…
Terry Olson @ 87
Actually, I’m the Diet Tab of evil.
;>)
Jane Hamsher @ 101
Aw, shucks, ma’am. Just doin’ muh job.
*smooch*
I think he likes the tazer though…
Hi Jane. Travel via air nowadays sucks. Sorry you are stuck.
OldCoastie @ 99
Didn’t he have a kidney stone last year?
JANE!
Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney, Robert Novak will never be good looking men.
Hey Jane! I love you, you visionary you!!
oh YEAH, TRex! I forgot about the kidney stone! that musta hurt bad and I don’t recall being sorry in the least…
TRex @ 109
It wasn’t big enough.
ccmask @ 107
TRex is a 38 year old Female, right? I’m always thinking the FDLers are males by their handles. Like scarecrow.
Tell us TRex. Names and genders. Please?
Terry, TRex is not a girl.
shyly waves and says Hi Jane!
doesn’t Rove look like the kind of guy that should be suffering from early onset heart disease?
or severe intestinal issues?
Hmm–maybe I shouldn’t have gone with the budget model voodoo doll. Guess you get what you pay for…
Terry Olson @ 114
TRex is a boy theropod.
Rove does have severe intestinal issues: $hit for brains.
our tax dollars are paying for his top of the line health coverage. nice, huh?
squirrel hiller @ 120
seriously, I can’t believe we are still paying his salary.
squirrel hiller @ 120
Don’t get me started.
Bush’s Bush
oh my
Terry Olson @ 114
I am decidedly male.
With a man’s needs.
Renee in Ohio @ 102
So the frizzy guy’s birthday is on pi day? Whose birthday is on E = MCsquared day? sounds like poor planning to me.
Pelosi’s picked the new Global Warming Panel.
Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.), who will chair the committee
Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.)
Jay Inslee (D-Wash.)
John B. Larson (D-Conn.)
Hilda L. Solis (D-Calif.)
Stephanie Herseth (D-S.D.)
Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo.)
John Hall (D-N.Y.)
Jerry McNerney (D-Calif.)
F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.), the ranking minority member
John Shadegg (R-Ariz.)
Greg Walden (R-Ore.)
John Sullivan (R-Okla.)
Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.)
Candice S. Miller (R-Mich.)
Okay, and I’m female. The spelling of my name often confuses.
He’s a ALL-MAN theropod!
TeddySanFran @ 128
a man’s man therapod!
Turns out that one company, Vintage Cotton, didn’t know they were being advertised on Coulter’s web site. They pulled the ads and modified their web page.
Snark lives!
How many fucking wheels does the Bush bus have?
-GSD
I’m so happy to see Jerry McNerny on the global warming panel.
He was one of the guys we supported through Howie!
Muzzy @
122
That’ll give a whole new meaning to “clearing brush”, won’t it?
GSD @ 131
too many wheels, Dear… far too many…
Looks like Bush’s poodle is so inept that he has been leaving his soldiers to lay around in their own feces too.
How do you say Walter Reed in English?
-GSD
Scarecrow @
46
I don’t think so. Vivica was a convenient excuse for Rove to “remember” his conversation with Cooper. He would have come up with some other reason to “remember” once he realized that Fitz had him dead to rights. Viveca was convenient, but she wasn’t responsible for this. Big mouth, wrong place, wrong time.
Suzanne @
107
I’m fine. Writing my intro for tomorrow, drinking Gatorade in Phoenix, you never know where you’re gonna wind up.
GSD @ 134
A massive bloody cock-up.
good nite T and all!
OldCoastie @ 129
Okay, the point is drilled in already.
OldCoastie @ 128
All that and more, true…But he’s no Captain Ned.
;>)
GSD @ 130
think of it as a tank, propelled by whatever those belty things on the bottom are.
TeddySanFran @
127
Teddy! I noticed you were first in line to kick Krauthammer around over at the WaPo. You really are Teddy on-the-spot.
Poor Bush, he’s so lost without his little Turdblossom blanky.
The Whitehouse is getting out in front of the story.
-GSD
Jane Hamsher @ 136
Phoenix is where I had my big knock-down drag-out fight with Courtney Love and got thrown off the tour bus.
another fave:
roasted Rove served with a nice chianti
Jane Hamsher @ 142
It’s always good to comment at WaPo before the “Trilateral Commission” commenters and cheeto-eaters arrive. I was very very very late to the Toensing party, but it had a whiff of organizateur about it.
Jane Hamsher @ 142
Ooh! Can we get a link or a quote?
GSD @
143
they are going to end up blaming Harriet Miers unless they are intending on throwing Abu G. under the bus…
squirrel hiller @ 141
I think they’re Vienna sausages chained together by toothpicks, lubricated by astroglide and the smoothly enabling skids of the Washington DC press corpse…
Captain Ned no workie.
Betcha you could catch a cab to the plaque Phoenicians have probably erected to commemorate this, Jane.
squirrel h and others, if you go here and scroll down a bit you can see some of the vintage parkers that the Wall Street is an homage to.
Oldcoastie@148
Harriet(raccoon eyes)myers!
For you, TRex.
Anyone think Rove will be issued a subpoena to come talk to congress-critters? If so, what Committee will issue one first?
squirrel hiller @ 153
she’s just so convenient!
ET- thanks for noticing my recipe (did you?). It was inspired by your earlier comment– that was also my favorite sentence in TRex’s post.
Was anyone else surprised to find out that the Bushies had changed the DOJ’s pardon guidelines? I remember them bitching and moaning about Marc Rich, but I didn’t realize they did anything about it. I’m willing to bet my ass that Fitz knew, though.
Swoon. It’s starting.
TeddySanFran @ 154
Nice work, T.
I suppose you saw the Sadly, No! Krauthammer portrait?
TRex @ 160
707070707
707070707
GSD @ 130
I don’t know but they are coming off left and right!
How does Rove get away with tampering with the US Attorneys
evening all – juslin here just lurking and reading – trying to keep up – its hard out here for a senior lol
BTW, I disagree with Frank Rich’s opinion that a pardon is a foregone conclusion. The fact that there’s no Senator Katherine Harris and no Supreme Court Justice Harriet Miers tells you all you need to know: Bush will cut-and-run from his “friends” the minute they become inconvenient to him.
i don’t know how to do a link here, but yahoo news has a story about some mounting pressure “talk” for abu gonzo to step down..be still my heart. Schuemer is making some noise. Abu under the bus politically ?..works for me. Its a start. At least at the next confirmation process,the notion of a Unitary Excutive (dictator) could be vetted.
It is a thing of beauty, is it not?
TRex @
147
You certainly can:
Teddy rocks. Hard.
and nooooo – rovie boy will ride off into the swamp along with his pet boy chimpy- and throwing cheeny to the wolves – imho
Terry Olson @ 150
He’s having a sun bath on the deck.
;>)
What does 707070 mean, for the love of 7?
Frank Probst @ 164
And I think Harriet Grant knows this full well, thus her quote in Milbank: “We’re gonna [expletive] ‘em.” Since Jane was closer than Dana and did not hear Harriet say this, I am ascribing to Dana special weenie-eating powers of making shit up on purpose that he knows is true about Harriet Grant.
Haha,
I’m out the door so I’ll have to read this later.
Horses head pillow lol ;-)
Hey, check this out It’s a Scooter Pardon Coupon, fresh off a box o’cereal ;-)
Elliott @ 162
My guess is that Bush will come out of his presidency relatively untouched. Clinton’s defining trait was slipperyness. Bush’s is luck. He’ll be remembered as one of the worst president’s of all time, but I have no doubt that he’ll die in his own comfortable bed as an old, wealthy man. Throughout his life, he’s destroyed everything around him and walked away unscathed. His stupidty is exceeded by his phenomenal luck. I’d play chess against this man in a heartbeat, but I wouldn’t have a prayer with backgammon or poker.
707 is falling out of chair laughing (upside down LOL)
Terry Olson @ 170
707 = LOL backwards falling out of your chair.
Jane Hamsher @ 167
Teddy rocks. Hard.
Teddy also had the 3rd comment.
john in sacramento @ 172
That’s not the Preciousss.
;>)
ccmask @
91
Yes – I guess that gave it away. He has decimated my home state. I don’t live there now but my family does, so I’m up on a lot of Floridian skulduggery
TeddySanFran @
62
Alternatively, WaPo once had a policy to name the unnamed source somewhere in the same article, so it might be Ari. Somehow, I see Ari frozen out now, though. {snitch!!}
What possible purpose did the fawning press corps have in revealing their own sycophancy in accepting the scraps from Rove’s table, anyway? That story’s got me puzzled, except it was quail wings — someone hereabouts called that an underhanded Cheney reference. And who reads incoming email when the boss and his Prime Wife OfGeorge are over for dinner, anyway? Or was that another way Rover established primacy over the BoyKing?
Wheels within wheels. On fire.
Don’t recall if it was me about the quail wings, but coulda been, inasmuch as if I were out there it would’ve felt like pistols at dawn. In fact, I wonder if the “excitement” weren’t a lot of cussing, shouting, and a couple of reporters having to be restrained. Otherwise, yes indeed that is a very strange sounding story. Wheels within wheels, flaming and falling off.
TeddySanFran @ 171
I still think she was talking to her future divorce attorney.
darkblack @ 177
707!
john in sacramento @
172
I just emailed that link to Krauthammer.
All I can say Teddy is that you must go to bed real late in order to be the first commentor on a KKKrauthammer Fifth Column Column. That is dedication above and beyond. I salute you!
Cliff Varnell @
25
I wish I could agree, but I think this represents wishful thinking. Though tax cuts and war profiteering, Bush and Rove have
succeeded in transfering vast amounts of American wealth into the hands of a small oligarchic elite. They have dramatically weakened the American middle class, while burdening future generations of tax payers with massive deficits. Unless and until this increase in inequality in America is reversed, by massive tax increases directed at the wealthiest individuals in the top one percent, it will profoundly affect the direction of American politics in an undemocratic (small d) way.
Even if the Democratic party gains power, I can’t see any of the current candidates for Preesident taking the extremely drastic steps needed to reverse the long term effects of Bush and Rove’s wealth redistribution.
A massive shock to the system, like the Great Depression, might open up new political possibilities, and allow the reversal of Bush’s worst affects on the system, but even that would be problematic. Such a major disaster might instead, given the damage already done to American democracy, cause a complete collapse of American democratic forms, and lead to the establishment of an openly tyrannical form of government.
OldCoastie @
148
Poor Alberto, he’s gonna get the old Bush reverse affirmative action treatment.
Gonzales might as well tatoo Peter Pan on his ass, cause that bus is a coming and it’s gonna swerve around Rove.
-GSD
TeddySanFran @ 159
As of last night, there’s a few chiefs of staff in House and Senate offices that will find a little helpful tidbit dropped in their email boxes. Call it virtual reciprocal Astroglide; we can play that game, too.
(Thanks, Mary4…no names mentioned, natch. And I thought immediately of LHP when I read McClatchy today. Heh.)
Glenn,
That was sobering at 184.
Ralph Kramden is firing up the diesel folks.
[S]everal Washington lawyers and GOP strategists with close ties to the White House said last week that lawmakers and conservative lawyers are nervous that Gonzales may not be up to the job.
“This attorney general doesn’t have anybody’s confidence,” said one GOP adviser to the White House, who spoke on the condition of anonymity so he could be candid. “It’s the worst of Bush — it’s intense loyalty for all the wrong reasons. There will be other things that come up, and we don’t have a guy in whom we can trust.”
-GSD
This week’s “Time” magazine has a photo of the Shooter under a big cloud. I’m guessing that “Newsweek”, the WaPo’s sister publication, will go with a “Free Scooter!” headline.
Does anyone else get the feeling that the “no underlying crime” talking point isn’t getting much traction? I just don’t think the average American–if they’re paying attention at all–is going to buy it. This is one of those cases where you say, “You know, if you or I did anything like this, we’d be in jail.”
Terry Olson @ 187
yes it was, and, stir in a few ugly terrorist attacks and wars of aggression and you’ll have a real mess.
AZ Matt @
183
Actually, PDT is my friend; the WaPo is online, opinion and all, by 10pm. I submit all my chatz questions the night before. As can you!
Chief Political Reporter Dan Balz at 11am Eastern.
“Media Critic” Howard Kurtz at Noon Eastern.
TeddySanFran @
175
but 707070 means you’re laughing so hard you fall over and over as you watch the tires spinning off the Bush bus go careening off into the ditch, or over the cliff…
Terry Olson @ 187
Cheer up, Glenn! The bloggers are here, now.
heh
TRex
You have created a monster.
It’s your pen talk.
My first 3 fountain pens lasted me 50 years
3 years ago I bought 4 Rotring Calligraphy pens for $2 ea. (clearance)
In the last week I’ve bought 6 pens and I’m bidding on another right now.
HELP! SAVE ME!
Ed*ard Teller @ 192
except for the part were he’s got us all in the back of that bus.
TSF- so, has Lieberman’s radio address been posted yet? I know you are tracking this…
hpschd@194
what brand and color of ink do you use?
TeddySanFran @ 191
Thanks! You are now on Arizona Standard Time as this state doesn’t change. But how did feel know that the first comments Charles would see would be yours? No warm encouraging words but hard, cold slap across his face? You ruined his day! So Cool!
There will be other things that come up
That’s certainly heartening, coming from
GSD @ 185
I’m not so sure. Rove’s name came up awfully fast. A lot of people are already talking about this case, and they don’t all have their stories straight. The usual MO of this Administration is attack attack attack and refuse to divulge any pertinent information. But there are too many outside players here, and a lot of people are trying to cover their asses. I think several people are going to go down here (Congresswoman? There’s a “60 Minutes” news crew in the waiting room. What should I tell them?”), but I can’t tell who all of them are yet.
VG: Nope, but neither has katymine’s new Congressman’s address from yesterday. I think tomorrow will be the tell. If they post her Congressman’s address, it means they’ve skipped RGJoe’s. If they don’t, it means they are deciding what to do. I have had no response to my DNC emails on the topic.
I’m waiting to see the titanic war between Rove and Cheney finally burst out into the open.
Cheney may decide that unloading on Rove — in such a way that it can’t be traced back to him — may be what needs to be done. Then again, Rove knows so much about so many people that if he gets in the least bit of trouble, the people who he’s got the dirt on will rush to protect him in order to keep him from gabbing about them in court under oath.
Of course, Rove has to be careful — he of all people should know that there are some persons who would be more than willing to shut him up once and for all, and if he pushes them too far without leaving them breathing space they might just say “the hell with it, I’m screwed anyway” and go after him with guns a-blazin’.
It should be a very crappy week for the White House with Sh*t Storm of USA’s on one end of it and the Waxman/Plame hearing on the other end. Do you think George and Laura will do mid-air refueling and circle the North Pole for the rest of the week?
TSF- thanks for the info, and the link. Please continue to keep us posted.
hpschd @ 194
Easy, hoss!!
You don’t want to cut into your grocery money.
I really advise stopping at 6. You need time to enjoy each pen and you’ll never do that if you keep buying more.
Now, what did you get?! Tell me.
Links, too, if you got em!
AZ Matt @ 203
There are the polar bears to contend with at the North Pole.
Phoenix Woman @ 202
Rove is the scapegoat for Repubs for losing the elections already so I think bus wheels might be soon approaching.
squirrel hiller @ 197
Ink – I’m pretty boring with ink
Parker Quink Blue-Black
Sheaffer Black for cartridges
I expect to stock up soon on more interesting stuff.
Your recommendations, please
Phoenix Woman @ 202
Wouldn’t this make a fantastic monster movie? Suggested tagline: “No matter who loses, America wins!”
Frank, just as Rove had slipped the Fitz noose, the hangman comes knocking again.
I imagine the party elders are getting sick and tired of George and Rovesputin dragging their party into the cesspool……Guess which one is the odd man out?
-GSD
Terry Olson @ 206
Ya can’t talk about polar bears without government permission!!
Frank Probst @ 200
I’m guessing this is a Cheney production, then. Rove knows how to keep stuff locked down air-tight; Cheney and Co. tend to make it up as they go along and lose track of the details.
Cheney probably figures that Rove tried like mad to feed him to Fitzgerald (Rove had five GJ trips IIRC, the most of anyone Fitz interviewed), so he’s probably trying to return the favor.
Rovespitoon
GSD @ 210
Wait! Don’t tell me! I can work this one out on my own…
i’m sure there are a bunch of little rove offspring, who have metastisized from the original fungus, and are carrying on the master’s dirty works.
Frank Probst @ 209
Throw in a double feature of Wilma MalKKKin vs. The Coultergeist and it’s my kind of party.
Matt, we have no evidence whatsoever that anyone employed by the WaPo ever reads any comments. But it’s a nice thought!
Polar bears — it’d be funny if it wasn’t so sad and true.
Frank Probst @ 209
A-yep. Rovezilla versus the Oil Monster. Pass the popcorn!
Oh nuts, I found a tune for Jane while waiting in the airport, but I can’t conjure up a link directly to the mp3 file itself.
Oh well, have to click the download link here for “Fly Baby, Fly.”
Phoenix Woman @ 212
Figures? Didn’t Libby get Rove’s GJ testimony? By now, I’m guessing that Cheney knows EXACTLY what Rove said about him.
TRex, so I finally have to ask- when do you ever get time to use your pens? And what do you use them for? I can’t image that you have time to hand write long epistolaries, what with your day job and your blogging.
p.s. YGM
squirrel hiller @ 215
Young Americans for Freedom, College Republicans. They grow like mold in the dank and dark places.
hpschd @ 208
Waterman Blue-Black has a lovely antique-y feel. Also, all Waterman inks contain a surfactant that is good for new pens, especially, and will contribute to their working well for the rest of their life. Comes in bottles or cartridges.
Private Reserve inks come in a gorgeous array of colors, the most “true blue” being American Blue. I am using a dark aqua right now called Blue Suede. Comes in bottles and many colors in cartridges.
All Cross inks are made by Pelikan, so buy whichever is cheaper. Cross cartridges only work in Cross pens, though, so get the bottle.
Let’s see:
1 Waterman Kultur in Marbled Green $15
1 Pilot Birdie $17
4 Rotring “Surf” pens (eBay 110100224267) $15
bidding on
1 Red Esterbrook J (up to $15.50)
I haven’t really spent very much – yet.
AZ Matt @ 222
“we are the goon squad and we’re coming to town. beep beep“
Rove vs. Cheney
Who would have known it was filmed in 1971.
-GSD
Terry Olson @
206
And they’ve donned their Hugo Chavez costumes and are waving banners they’ve ordered from the Freeway Blogger. He’s not landing there.
Valley Girl @ 221
You’d be amazed how much paperwork is involved in broadcasting.
Pen People:
what about noodler’s ink? thumbs up or down?
squirrel hiller @ 215
I wonder if any of these USAs are Cheney plants, though? He’s known to have seeded loyalists everywhere as well….
TeddySanFran @ 125
Hey Teddy and others- Howie has a post up with a nice pic of Jane and Hilda Solis, here
Didn’t anybody else think the Dana Perion bit about Rove was just Rove telegraphing his story to Abu G and anybody else in the gang so they would line up their stories with his? They can’t even stop obstructing justice when everybody’s watching them; it’s reflexive.
I think Miers is getting shoved under the wheels again based on Rove’s message if neither she nor Abu actually had the authority to dismiss the USA’s — although there’s only so many times Miers is going to be able to handle those skidmarks before she turns on Rover.
squirrel hiller @ 229
I’ve never tried it. It comes in such giant bottles, that the thought of buying that much ink and hating it seems like it would be a real waste.
punaise @ 225
Cool!
Trx@233
oh crap. i just ordered two bottles of it. some navy color and a red called widowmaker’s.
i’ll let you know how it performs.
Harry Belafonte unloaded again and called Condi the “house slave”.
Oh my. We will soon learn that Democrats MUST repudiate him.
-GSD
Whoa, now you have Hagel saying Bush may be impeached.
http://www.siouxcityjournal.co…..143893.txt
GSD @ 236
mix in a bit of reggae and Condi’s penchant for shoe shopping, and you’ve got a Sister Sole-Jah moment.
squirrel hiller @ 235
Well, I was just looking at it looks like it comes in all different sized bottles now, so let me know how you like it!
You did not disappoint. G’nite.
Sister Sold-ya.
-GSD
hmmmmm – seems its getting a bit hot in DC right about now – who’s gonna get thrown under said bus? i say cheeney…
FEMA might want to fire up the bus fleet, I get the feeling they might be really busy this week.
-GSD
what the Huck: Sister Sold-Ya down the river
punaise @ 244
The Swanee River
TRex @ 132
Removal of Karl’s cockleburrs is gonna pull a smidge.
Swiney Rivah, it jes’ keeps a rollin’.
-GSD
mr paws just pressed the “on” button on the Rat Zapper. Stay Tuned.
way cool, spidey, fingers and toes crossed it works.
spiderpaws @ 248
I just heard the Dragnet theme in my head for some reason.
Duuh-da-dum-dum.
…and I have a Mitt Romney report if anyone cares….
Trex
i know this is pretty obsessive, but, now i’m watching for nice pens in movies. currently i’m trying to figure out what pen charlotte rampling is using in the movie “swimming pool.” and the young ingenue in that film is using a very interesting ballpoint pen.
this squirrel is nuts.
spiderpaws @ 251
What up?
spiderpaws @ 251
You’re so coy. OF COURSE WE CARE!
squirrel hiller @ 252
The film “Dead Poets Society” is full of great old pens.
That’s my theme, TRex.
Yes, please, spidey.
OMG! I’ve heard of train spotters, but I didn’t know that there were pen spotters…
at first glance I wondered if Dweezil and Moon Unit had a heretofore unknown sibling named Rat.
GSD @
188
So these are likely to be Rove’s people, is that what you’re saying? Makes sense, seeing as how I’m sure he still has a few chits he can call in, while Abu, well, nothin’, like most of Bush’s second term people. Perfectly disposable heat shields.
squirrel hiller @ 252
to heck with the ballpoint pen – she was intriguing, tout court. good film.
GSD
“Perfectly disposable heat shields.”
love that description!
for VG:
Well here it is…Saturn’s in opposition to his natal Mars AND his nodes – very bad- from Oct 2007 to July 08. this ought to make him smell like an overripe cheese. But no matter, Romney could get offered a real job in the meantime and drop right out of the race.
spiderpaws @ 263
The might be an opening at the Naval Observatory, if Rover wins this upcoming cage match. But is that “a real job?”
…does anyone know how long one waits before checking the Zapper? Or what happens if another rat comes along and has a look in the Zapper and sees one of his buds in there eletrocuted?
spiderpaws – did it come in instructions?
spiderpaws @ 264
It’s kind of like Christmas Eve, spidey – set it before you go to sleep, and when you get up in the morning, check the light to see if there’s a present for you!
spiderpaws @ 265
Come on, Spider. What’s up?
OT, but…
OMFG- @ Salon
The Army is ordering injured troops to go to Iraq
jingle bells, jingle bells.
hot buttered popcorn anyone?
AZ Matt @ 222
Yeah, but we’re a lot more prepared with the sunlight and disinfectant than our predecessors were during the rise of Rove.
punaise @ 262
OOOhh… thanks for that. I will have to go do some YouTubing. As you know, I grew up in the SF Valley. And, Zappa was def. a cult figure during my college years. The father of the ex-husband of my best friend had Zappa as a music student. So, there were various converging influences when I chose my screen name. fer sure.
spiderpaws @ 270
WTF
newtonusr @ 269
where’s my pitchfork?
Suzanne @ 266
Suzanne does have a practical streak! As I have said before, re: the ball point pens….
Heh! Suzanne, you’ll never believe this…it came with a pamphlet called “Rodents 101″ and the Qwik-Start Guide to the Rat Zapper.
hahahahahahhahah
Valley Girl @ 272
and I’m, like, oh my gawd!
spiderpaws @ 265
file this under:
“isn’t it nice that we are all different”
last november i caught three brown mice in my attic and made them a little home in a big fish tank. they had wheels to exercise on, a little pond and various dwellings to hide in. each day they ate a variety of nuts and seeds with some greens. they enjoyed harvesting the cotton from q tips and making little nests in their houses. for christmas i dumped a bag of cotton balls in the tank for them to play with.
when spring came i relocated them to a nature center near a bird feeding area.
i cried when i let them go.
Sorry if this is already posted but Halliburton moving HQ to Dubai?? Next door to crazy old Michael Jackson, no doubt. Any thoughts as to the tax implications of this, and/or whether it puts them out of the reach of U.S. law?
http://rawstory.com/news/dpa/U…..12007.html
spiderpaws @ 270
Yeah!
And pour me an egg nog!
Iiiiiiit’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas…
*ZZZAAP!!*
Elliott @ 274
No shit. They’re falsifying readiness reports to get more kids over there. Good thing Gates is SecDef…
Terry Olson @ 273
Terry-
Spidey has a house with a rat problem. She has purchased a trap that will electrocute them. Someone up thread said it’s like Christmas Eve. You set it out before you go to bed and check it in the morning to see if you got lucky.
spiderpaws @ 276
*spew!*
Terry: per Alicia’s instructions mr paws and I purchased a Rat Zapper, a mini electric chair for rats since we have dozens of them climbing the walls from the psycho cellar to the attic pulling out insulation and chewing wires.
We just set it and are now munching popcorn in between checking to see if we have the first rat.
the catholic version of the Rat Zapper is the Rat Zinger
(*ducking*)
Nothing that will happen to rove will be remotely close to what that son of a bitch deserves. I wish for him the heat of ten thousand hot suns.
Garbo @ 279
I snipped this from Think Progress
Halliburton on the move
tbsa @ 286
“once more, with feeling”
(I concur)
tbsa @ 286
and the bites of ten thousand fire ants
Suzanne: it’s 65* here, we have all the windows and doors open
And that’s just in his jock strap.
Elliott@289
“and the bites of ten thousand fire ants”
and where would these hungry ants be biting him?
Spidey – that is too funny. I just got back from taking the cutest dog in the world for a short walk – he insists on watering all the redwood trees. There is not a cloud in the sky and it is a balmy 53 degrees outside.
VG – practical is a good description. Thank you.
spiderpaws @ 284
Cool. Beats the poison that kills them while traveling throughout the walls. Which I know really…. stinks.
None of this is too surprising. As others have mentioned, this sort of skulduggery was commonplace with Rove when he was mostly a Texas political phenomenon. More than once, the opponent of one of his clients would have to explain about an investigation which would mysteriously disappear from the news after the election (as happened with Jim Hightower in the Hightower-Perry race for Texas agriculture commissioner).
So, this latest bit of nastiness is very much in character for Rove.
Will he get blasted for it? He’s always found a way to skate away, maybe not cleanly and not with a 9.9 performance, but still able to do so. That may become his enduring reputation–that he managed to cause so much damage without any of the shit he was flinging sticking to him. That must sadden all the people who believe in karmic justice, but….
All that said, Rove is very high on the cosmic list of people who deserve to spend the rest of their lives in solitary penance for what they’ve done….
squirrel hiller @ 292
see 291 !
newtonusr @ 281
No shit. They’re falsifying readiness reports to get more kids over there. Good thing Gates is SecDef…
FUCKETY,FUCKING,FUCK!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!
Elliott @ 287
Thanks, Elliot. I figured I was late to the party. I think I love Waxman almost as much as Waxman loves subpoenas! I think what we need is a giant corporate-sized version of the Rat Zapper.
Spidey, have you ever thought about leaving Alka Seltzer tablets out for the rats to eat? It sure kills seagulls. Their little tummies explode and they plummet to the ground with foam jetting out of their beaks and buttholes.
These kids were doing it at the beach once when I was little. It gave me nightmares.
newtonusr @ 281
Elliott @ 274
newtonusr @ 269
OT, but…
OMFG- @ Salon
The Army is ordering injured troops to go to Iraq
where’s my pitchfork?
No shit. They’re falsifying readiness reports to get more kids over there. Good thing Gates is SecDef…
FUCKETY,FUCKING,FUCK!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!
Ditto.
Just did a round of zig busting.
Everyone refresh.
…mice is one thing, rats another…you’d need about fifty tanks for this gang…
hey Punaise- I listened again to the Zappa song. One phrase that didn’t register before was “like barf out”. Thank you. I can use this to add a new dimension to my FDL comments.
I wanna see the cutest dog in the world
spiderpaws @ 302
Spiderpaws, I don’t think the stars are in their favor tonight!
montag @ 295
So you’re saying, for those of us who don’t live in TX, that Rover has previous experience in “encouraging” inappropriate investigations in time to mess with elections.
Hmm. Seems like that might be something Senate and House Judiciary Committees might want more information around, if the details are fairly solid, don’t you think? Not unlike the mess that got him fired from Poppy Bush’s team…he used Novak to leak then, probably did it again during Dubya’s administration.
We put the Zapper in the attic as one of our cats is currently in the cellar acting very serious.
Suzanne @ 300
Now that ChimpCo’s laundry is out in the breeze, it’s kind of hard to imagine they think this behavior would slip by…
spiderpaws @ 302
oooh. i’ve tried live rat trapping. it’s not for everyone. they are agressive, covered with mites and pee a lot.
if the ratzapper packs enough punch, it may be a humane answer.
spidey, there is a picture of him on my blog - actually there is a whole bunch of pictures of him, and his sister who lives next door there.
Glenn from Canada @ 184,
I sure hope you’re wrong about that…
The Great Depression is something I’ve been sort of expecting, but I’ve also been expecting an FDR-ish approach to dealing with it.
Suz- practical = down to earth = firm grip on reality = does what needs to be done = cuts to the chase = level headed = cuts through the bullshit = … etc. xxoo
spiderpaws @ 304
Meet my brother’s dog Addison.
Teh.
Cutest.
Dog.
In the World.
Rayne @ 306
More about being fired from 41’s admin. Please.
…there is not a peep from the rats tonight…strange or what?…they probably figured everything out, packed tiny suitcases full of insulation and wiring and caught the northern pacific to Seattle…
TRex @
313
You haven’t seen my BRAVO, then!
aw shucks, vg, you’re making me blush.
Of course they headed up north, spidey. After all, you now have “Rodents 101″ and the Qwik-Start Guide to the Rat Zapper.
Let’s just hope there is not an electrician among the rats.
squirrel hiller @
278
bless you, squirrel hiller
Rayne @ 306
Yup. Rove had a soulmate in the FBI. One case involved a bug which Rove conveniently found in his own office, about which he demanded investigation of his client’s opponent. In the Hightower case, there was some fraud by a few people low down in the Agriculture Commissioner’s office which was inflated by leaks to the media as including Hightower. After the election, inquiries about Hightower were dropped. Much of this is documented in Jim Moore’s books.
After all, he learned his trade at the elbow of Donald Segretti, and was in the business of trying to outdo Lee Atwater….
Gonzales
Cheney
Bush.
Rove will skate.
White House says Rove relayed complaints.
http://www.realcities.com/mld/…..884148.htm
Ain’t that special?
random rant before signing off:
a currently popular hip-hop song “Cupid’s Chokehold” by Gym Class Heroes samples the key refrain from Supertramp’s OK pop hit from the late 70’s – Breakfast in America:
take a look at my girlfriend
she’s the only one I got
not much of a girlfriend
I never seem to get a lot
Now, granted, back in that era, as a college freshman, I may have been somewhat sympathetic to that sentiment (*cringe*) Nowadays, however, I had to have a little discussion with 13 y.o. punaisette about the message in those lyrics. (of course, she had already figured it out, and pointed out the mixed messages of the current song)
ok. one more rodent story.
i was staying in a lodge in a wooded area and found that the owner had placed evil glue traps in the closets. stuck to the traps were five baby squirrels. i got a roll of paper towels and spent hours extracting these squirrels from the glue. they bit my fingers over and over. it was really hard to get them off the traps. when i lifted them by the torso their skin stretched way out and i thought i would pull their skin right off.
when i got them off the traps and into a shoe box i noticed that their skin was all flappy and loose. i took them to a great vet and explained the flappy skin problem and she just laughed her head off. seemed they were flying squirrels and the loose skin was a necessity for the flying thing.
she bottle fed them and released them.
message: don’t use glue traps. they are inhumane.
jeez, when did it get all rodent-y?
g’nite, all….
Terry Olson @ 322
From the piece:
ScottyMc would be proud!
Wow, a darling cottage in the redwoods…and that dog…nothing can be that cute…why are you leaving such a wonderful spot? On to greener pastures? Like 100 acres in southern Oregon or a queenly victorian in Portland?
This rat situation has got me so crazy I’m considering a move…plus now there’s mold.
I still can’t believe they actually tried to put Harriet Miers on the Supreme Court. I mean…really. Harriet Miers.
TeddySanFran @ 325
when we started talking about Rove — and the rest of BushCo.
punaise @ 285
*pew
TRex @ 328
In that ugliest of blue suits.
Alrighty, then.
Good night, mes amis. Sleep well.
See you tomorrow night.
Spidey, I’ve been squeezed out of middle class down to fixed income poor Financial realities have me moving, perhaps Oregon along the coast or southern Washington. Won’t know until I get up there – have only been up there once a couple of years ago.
See, he is the cutest dog in the world – not matter what TRex says about his brother’s dog.
TRex @ 328
Well, when you’re way short of morals, ethics, fine judgment and think cronyism is normal, you tend to do things like that. :)
Margot @ 311
Kucinich. (he also experienced homelessness as a child, iirc)
Lost out on the bidding on that Red Esterbrook pen.
Just found out about “sniping” on eBay
I was wondering how people got in at the last second.
…wouldn’t dream of using glue traps or poison…it is only with great regret that I am electrocuting them…I am an animal rescuer and my specialty is birds – crows particularly.
Last winter I raised two tiny possums orphaned when their mum was run over near here. this year has been quiet so far (throwing salt and garlic over my shoulder) but when baby bird season starts it will be bedlam as usual. Mind you don’t get contact with rabid rodents, a rabies shot is a good idea if you plan to handle critters.
re: the question about GHWB 41 and Rove:
from wiki
1992 George H. W. Bush presidential campaign
“Sources close to the former president George H.W. Bush say Rove was fired from the 1992 Bush presidential campaign after he planted a negative story with columnist Robert Novak about dissatisfaction with campaign fundraising chief and Bush loyalist Robert Mosbacher Jr. It was smoked out, and he was summarily ousted” (Esquire Magazine, January 2003). Novak provided some evidence of motive in his column describing the firing of Mosbacher by former Senator Phil Gramm: “Also attending the session was political consultant Karl Rove, who had been shoved aside by Mosbacher.” Novak and Rove deny that Rove was the leaker, but Mosbacher maintains, “Rove is the only one with a motive to leak this. We let him go. I still believe he did it.”[22] During testimony before the CIA leak grand jury, Rove apparently confirmed his prior involvement with Novak in the 1992 campaign leak, according to National Journal reporter Murray Waas.[23]
Valley Girl @ 338
Even in political families, they’re out to screw each other… you’d think there would be more arrests for incest in DC than there are…. :)
Oops, metaphorical use of a literal word puts me in the filters…. :(
montag- (and others) please do an F5 (not refesh). Comment has been released. it is prob. the in**** word.
Valley Girl @ 338
Thanks for the info, Valley Girl. What a web they have woven. If it weren’t for all of the dead people and wounded people,and the loss of world-wide prestige, and the money blown, it would make for an interesting soap opera.
Now that I caught up, *panting* What about executive privilege? can the executive branch use that when testifying before congressional committees? TRex, did your unnamed blogger source say anything about this?
I had to get that question out even though TRex is gone for the evening.
Valley Girl @ 340
Yeah, I figgered that… after hitting enter and nothing happened. :)
Terry- I tried to find a more direct link to the particular article, but it seems to be hidden behind the NYT firewall. But, I did remember that there had been some discussion of this before at FDL. Way back.
montag @ 345
That is just my guess. But it seems like a term that is likely to be caught in the filters.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 342
Well, to be a bit more precise about it, they would use executive privilege to avoid appearing before committees to testify. It’s not like taking the Fifth, where they have to appear and then invoke the privilege–it would be done beforehand.
That said, yes, they would try to include everyone in the White House in that privilege, so, the expectation that Rove would testify would probably be unrealistic. On edit, I would add that there are no Judge Siricas around these days in DC. I doubt that a Congressional challenge to executive privilege would get anywhere in the courts these days….
Terry (314), VG (338) — original source for that bit about Rove in 1992 from Esquire:
– Ronald Suskind, “Why are these men laughing?”, Esquire Jan 2003
God, I need to hit the hay, only 3 hours before I have to get up again.
Eureka Springs, AR @
343
You mean protecting T/blossom from going before committees? And without ReThugs in charge on the hill, everything will be under oath… If they think they can use it, they will.
montag- and they have certainly evoked this to “not provide” information sought by congressional committees. Can’t cite chapter and verse, but I seem to remember…
Good night, Rayne. Thanks so much.
But if they could get Abu to confirm T/blossom’s hand (however slight) in this, how could ChimpCo fight the subpoena without infuriating even ReThugs?
I wonder if a claim of executive privilege in response to a congressional subpoena would trigger a constitutional crisis – and what that would mean.
Valley Girl @ 350
One of the earliest instances of them doing so was in Congress’ investigation into the suspect doings inside the Boston office of the FBI.
That one even pissed off Dan Burton….
Suzanne @ 353
How much you wanna bet Keith has John Dean on on Monday to weigh-in on exactly that?
Sure it’s late, but for anyone still up, here are two cartoons that give me hope that people are seeing the current administration for what it is:
Keefe-Denver Post on fired USAs
and Breen on Cheney.
Trex, I really, really, really want your friend to be wrong about Rove and the gang. I want to see them get what they deserve in this lifetime.
Suzanne @ 353
See my previous comment. The White House ignored the subpoenas in that matter. (They also refused to accept service of process in the Judicial Watch suit against Cheney.) Nothing done. There was a Constitutional crisis… no one noticed. *shrug*
montag- you have a great memory, whereas I rely on google. I will try to go find a link, but please feel free to give a link if you have one in the meanwhile.
newstoner, I sure hope so. I think it is a subject we are gonna have to bone up on around here in the weeks to come.
Hey Spidey, heard any screams from the attic, yet?
Valley Girl @ 358
Ah, yes, easy to find. Some of the details and background are here.
Montag – lacking your photographic memory…
Did they decline regarding elected officials, or appointees?
Ahhh… linky – thanks!
Montag I’m hoping that the political climate in DC has changed enough that if the WH tries to pull that crap again there is a huge upcry.
Suzanne…sorry you have to go…all the good people are leaving this area and only hoity toity types with large bankrolls and an attitiude that money rules are left. these are cynical types who think upper class means a lot of money. McMansions rule here and we also are being squeezed out as we are on 5 acres in a light industrial area, all wild land with walnuts and oaks. They would love to get rid of us and build apartment complexes or whatever. If you find a good neighborhood somewhere, let me know. I may join you.
montag- okay, here’s an article about that: here.
~~~WASHINGTON – President Bush yesterday invoked executive privilege to block a congressional subpoena exploring abuses in the Boston FBI office, prompting the chairman of a House committee to lambaste his fellow Republicans and triggering what one congressman said is the start of ”a constitutional confrontation.”
Burton
”We’ve got a dictatorial president and a Justice Department that does not want Congress involved…
Your guy’s acting like he’s king, ”
GOP Representative Dan Burton of Indiana (left) tells Carl Thorsen, a deputy assistant attorney general. (AP photo)
”You tell the president there’s going to be war between the president and this committee,” Dan Burton, the Indiana Republican who heads the House Government Reform Committee, told a Justice Department official during what was supposed to be a routine prehearing handshake. ~~~
Here’s a quote to answer the question of how the Bushies plan to deal with the congress now that they have subpoena power:
LINK
There will be fireworks. Guaranteed.
montag- not SNAP, exactly, but same points. Thx.
spidey, send me an email at ten67x AT aohell dot com and I’ll keep you posted.
Suzanne @ 368
and if anyone wants to see a photo of bravo, send me email at my fdl handle AT mindspring dot com.
I am so wide awake. This time change is goofy.
newtonusr @ 362
See the link above. On behalf of the FBI–but, it was basically more secrecy BS–they weren’t about to give up anything they weren’t forced by the courts to hand over.
My guess is that if they were required by the Supreme Court to hand over info they didn’t want to, their next step would be to simply fail to act on the order, or ignore it. That would be in character for them.
montag @ 370
Fuckin A. We’re going to have to lay down in traffic to get them to follow the law.
There’s so much crap flying, I don’t even remember the Boston thing.
My guess is that if they were required by the Supreme Court to hand over info they didn’t want to, their next step would be to simply fail to act on the order, or ignore it. That would be in character for them.
That is the biggest constitutional crisis of all, I guess.
newtonusr- my first thought- but, lacking the draft, no one is going to lay down in traffic. If you see what I mean. not to say I don’t have mixed feelings about this. just what comes to mind re: then and now.
Suzanne @ 372
Already happened… Hamdan. They got the Court’s order and did nothing. No one at Gitmo got any due process out of that decision. They just held out long enough for Congress to write a law going around the Court’s decision….
Sorry I stepped away for a moment after reading the salon article on sending wounded troops back to Iraq&^%$^&*$!
Thanks for the replys. At first glance it sounds like we need to change the name to executive obstruction.
I am sooo tired of being this upset. And, yet, I know it’s far from over.
mr paws says we have to close the attic hatch and call it quits for tonight : (
Will report in tomorrow on any progress. Goodnight!
Valley Girl @ 373
Yep. We’ll become a nation of starving peasants before we wake up and demand some accountability. By then…
Another prescient poster asked, “Where’s my pitchfork?”
newtonusr @ 377
In the corner, right next to the torch. :)
I own a large wooden pitchfork. Charging up my digital cam so I can send a photo to our posters for use soon. (if they like it of course)
Eureka Springs, AR @ 379
T-shirts & bumper stickers.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 380
I think we need some brooms, too. Have any?
VG – Oh yes, in a pinch they make a great torch..)
squirrel hiller @
215
There are also scores of Cheney appointees in all branches of government– I think there are a lot more people in DC who owe their appointment to Cheney than to Rove. Cheney’s got a virtual shadow government of his own people.
Bob in HI
Eureka Springs, AR @ 383
well then, it’s time to get even more creative. Burning brooms….
The Alberto Gonzales Death Watch.
[snickering loudly]
M’self, I’m betting they bring back John Ashcroft, because, y’know, things were going so well and all when he was AG….
Bob Schacht @ 384
It would be great to have a list of the Cheney appointees….
Should I wear a pair of overalls or a lab coat with that pitchfork? *S*
Eureka Springs, AR @ 387
Don’t think it matters as long as there’s a guillotine in the background…. :)
It would be great to have a list of the Cheney appointees….
Between Rove and Cheney I am sure it must be a cast of thousands.
montag- I clicked the link, and just had to copy the text here, for those who aren’t inclined to follow links.
~~~The devil you know…
Now that it looks like the Alberto Gonzales Death Watch has begun with his credibility approaching that of John Mark Karr, I guess we can start making our picks for the new AG.
I’m going to go with David Addington.
Not that he’s any better than Gonzales (he’s not) but he has the same goals, he’s part of the inner circle so there won’t be any embarrassing stabs at investigating administration malfeasance, and, most importantly to an administration under siege, he’s meaner.
Gonzales, on the other hand, will go home to Texas to spend more time with Karen Hughes’ family.~~~
Valley Girl @
373
But don’t forget, this weekend are the anti-war protests. There may be many people involved. Wearing green for Pat’s and global warming I hope.
Valley Girl @ 390
I’d pay money to see Leahy questioning Addington in a confirmation hearing. :)
Wouldn’t Addington (wretch) have to be approved by the Senate?
Eureka Springs, AR @ 393
Not according to Addington…. :)
Eureka Springs,
Just thanks for all you bring to the table.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 388
If you are asking *me*, I don’t ever wear a lab coat. But, I don’t do too many photo-ops. I would go with the overalls. Or, jeans at least, which is what I usually wear.
Conservative/Author Kevin Phillips is coming to the Bay Area in April to speak about his latest, “AMERICAN THEOCRACY”, and it’d be good to hear from a sane voice from the right. I’m going.
Anyone see David Kuo on Maher, giving ChimpCo what-for?
Terry – FDL, it’s a twenty four hour buffet..)
Terry Olson @ 395
Seconded.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 398
I am realizing!
Addington is Cheney’s attack dog.
See here- letter to whitehouse.org telling them to cease and desist in using the fictitious biography of Lynne Cheney.
letter here
I have the image in my mind now. (subject to change) Me in a tail coat… Think Abe Lincoln and a hat from that era, with my back to the camera, waving the pitchfork at the mountains and sky.(maybe a river in that shot)
Perhaps in black and white.
TRex @
328
I’m just glad they didn’t nominate Abu Gonzo. There were actually some Democrats opining that Gonzo would get approved in a walk, because they thought he was more “moderate”. Eeeewwww.
Bob in HI
Thirded, ES, thirded.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 402
Now that would be a great item for the e-bay benefit!
nite all.
Eureka Springs, AR @
343
Wasn’t Exec Priv what Nixon appealed to wrt the famous tapes? Congress couldn’t get’em, but the special prosecutors (who are members of the Exec.) took it to the Supremes and won, thereby revealing the “smoking gun”. That’s one reason for Fitzgerald’s continuing relevance, IMHO.
Bob in HI
newspaperbrat – Well, one has to work with their surroundings and mine lacks any urban qualities..)
nite newtonusr.
G’night, pups. Sleep beckons.
G’nite TOW.
If Harriet Miers isn’t serious about heading back to Texas, I would bet Bush would nominate her for AG.
Time for me to head to off to dreamland, folks. G’nite.
Anyone still out there?
Valley Girl @
390
I’d prefer Judge Judy.
Bob Schacht @ 407
Hi Bob in HI.
It’s good to see you here at FDL. We have met a few times at events in 04 and last year when I still lived in Hawaii. In 04′ I worked on Blake Oshiro’s local campaign and in 06 I followed DFA HI.
insomnia
Look how CNN dot com spins this headline
Excuse me! What about the 250k who signed a petition for moveon.org and a few firepups who raised cane at giveemhellharry over the mere idea any Dem should allow themselves to be under a bias foxlight?
amazing
an additional point continued from my last comment. I don’t know how many are aware of how Fox handled the last Dem Presidential debates but one thing I will never forget is how they altered the lighting and camera focus. It was so bad and so obvious. I remember switching channels to compare other stations (reception etc.) so I could be sure something wasn’t wrong with my television. It was that bad!! Some candidates were almost goulish in appearance, unrecognizable.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 418
Not to mention the commentary after the debates, which was, by almost all descriptions, drearily Foxish….
From The Next Hurrah: Quote of the Week
By Mimikatz
This quote really sums up the Bush Administration, from Retired General Tony McPeak, who was on the Joint Chiefs during the first Gulf War. It comes from a long piece in Rolling Stone on the future of Iraq:
This is a dark chapter in our history.
[…]
This is what moveon said in their celebration letter
It is 8.10pm here in Ipswich Queensland Australia. I wish any who are yet to seep plesant dreams. an now it is time for me to go off to read and relax, then sleep. see you at about 8ish Monday night.
Elliott linked to this above, but I thought I’d link to it again for anyone who missed it.
From HuffPo $20 BILLION LATER HALLIBURTON MOVES HEADQUARTERS TO DUBAI
John Casper – One has to wonder if Soros, who invested over 60 million in Halliburton recently, saw this coming.
Good morning, pups. Today in the NYT we have Bob Herbert on the abuses in guest worker programs, and Paul Krugman has words about Alberto Gonzalez.
http://mgpaquin.blogspot.com/
Help yourselves to coffee and tea, and I picked up some scones at Fresh Market. They’re great with the strawberry jam over there… I need a second cup of tea to pry my eyelids open.
I’m still wondering what Jeff was doing at the WH and why 6999 scandals can’t bring these guys down.
Mornin’ all!
Mornin’.
Good Morning, Firepups,
Clear and milder this morning in central Jersey. Coffee’s hot, help yourself. I’m heading out for bagels.
And [forgive me for blog-whoring] I am recommending Mr. NJP’s new blog, PeaceWatch NJ, about how to have the most impact on peace issues in NJ.
Work for peace, every day.
I think wiki is conflating two separate incidents about Rasputin. I toured the Yusupov palace including the room where young Felix delivered the poison. It was truly creepy. The poison didn’t work, so they threw him in the river, which did work.
While I cannot advocate any of these methods for modern political dilemmas, it does leave one wondering how far they must fall before they will finally leave.
One of the first major biographies I remember reading in junior hight school was Robert K. Massie’s Nicholas and Alexandra, which described in detail the murder of Rasputin. Still a fabulous read.
Trex
I think you have find an excellent name for these guys-
The AstroGlide Administration
njprogressive (431) — yeah, that was a good read, wasn’t it? I remember reading it as an early teen, also.
‘Morning, FirePups. Deadline day here, should already be working. Keep hoping I will find something here that will save our collective bacon…but I guess I better get back to work.
Coffee’s up, help yourselves. Extra BIG pot today.
Rayne—
You’re doing the work of the angels.
MROSS meets tomorrow [Marcy Rayne Office Supply Support Group] and by the way Christy wants to join.
There is a form of Republican talking point that I find particularly annoying, the irrelevant untruth. Consider the claim that Joe Wilson’s wife sent him to Niger. First of all, it has been disproven. But secondly, he was highly qualified to go, and what he found wouldn’t have been any different. Bush would still be a lying sack of shit.
I guess that the thing that annoys me is that these claims are such an insult to the intelligence of the listener.
Here are some more regarding Palmegate:
There was no crime since Valerie wasn’t covert. The fact is that she was covert, and as Fitz pointed out, whether she was covert or not, her affiliation with the CIA was classified so intentionally revealing it violates Section 793, the Espionage Act.
There was no WH conspiracy, since it was Armitage who spilled the beans. First of all, Armitage is a PNAC neocon working for BushCo. Second, he wasn’t the only bean spiller. Third, someone told him for some reason, i.e., he wasn’t working alone.
The folks working at the WH didn’t know she was covert. They certainly knew that the national-defense nature of her work on WMD was “classified.”
Joe Wilson claimed that Cheney sent him. Joe never claimed that. But, so what if he did? Who sent him has no bearing on the correctness and/or relevance of what Joe has reported.
Progressives need a snappy one-line reply to these, e.g.: “Were that lie true, it would be still be irrelevant.”
marion — meant to say Thanks! for the NYT op-eds. Krugman’s not saying much new, but it’s so very important that he continues to keep the spotlight on the USA story so that it breaks through the firewall that conservatives put up against bad news.
egregious — heh. I’ll have to attend the MROSS meeting remotely; maybe Christy can be my proxy.
Mmm-mmm. Tape flags and Post-its. I feel a trip to Staples coming on…maybe after I finish this report and make my deadline.
Wigwam @ 435
“A jury of Libby’s peers examined the evidence carefully over 10 days — and they found him guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt.
How’s the rest of that crap going to hold up in court when they stop hiding behind lies?”
Hey, is Pat_AlexaVA out there lurking??
Got something for you on virtualization.
This is probably going to get EPU’d, but I was reminded the other day of how Timmeh Russert stiffed Richard Clarke on MTP, thus making his bones yet again with the Bushistas.
Good morning sweeties.
It’s beautiful here — will be near 70. The field is greening up, the narcissus are still blooming, and lots of stuff is getting ready to.
Esten is great, although working his way through a GI bug. I guess it’s the other way around, but the less said about that the better.
the clock sez 530, the coffee sez 530…
but the dogs are still snoring and they NEVER lie…
oh.mah.gawd! it isn’t really morning, is it?
Wigwam – your post on irrelevant untruths should be sent to every progressive/democratic talking head. Great job.
Rayne @
437
I guess that the thing that bugs me is the red-herring value that they get out of it. If you digress to dispute the truth of their bullshit, they’ve succeeded in changing the subject away from their own misdeeds. If you don’t, however, it appears that you are accepting their point. What’s needed is a single phrase that dismisses their points relevance and credibility, both at once.
Wigwam at 443, and Rayne, too.
How about, “So what?”
I really *hate* having to keep harping on this stuff but it must be done. Most people’s working knowledge is not based on facts but on an overall fuzzy impression of what is true, and that is largely based on what appears to be a community consensus. We are social animals and this is a hard-wired trait. Owning the media allows the VRWC to fabricate an apparent consensus.
So we have to repeat the facts. The facts have to be real, but the key is repetition, repitition, repetition. A scornful tone helps, too.
If there were a strong and organized Democratic party in place then I believe there would be some kind of justice handed out. But the Democratic party is just too weak, feebleminded and disorganized. I mean these guys agreed to have FOX NEWS in charge of their debate ferchrissakes! WTF!
Wigwam @ 445
And how are those rose colored contacts working out for you?
More cocktails anyone?
And we’re off to see the wizard!
She’s right. None of them will be held accountable by us mere mortals.
Scorn rules.
Please someone, anyone take them all out of office. I really need a break from all of these antics!
petedownunder @
16
I’m in the wrong business.
Can’t afford the horse pillow but here’s a ten-buck tip for the dinosaur.
Petraeus is smart, and when the surge is obviously a failure, may he use his leadership skills to bring the troops back to Washington and remove this infestation of bunglers that is the present administration.