

As some of you hopefully know, the prologue of my book ends with these words:
But the real reason I dedicated so much time to this story is because I believe it matters. I said I’m an ordinary citizen, but I do bring a particular perspective to the story. For a PhD at the University of Michigan, I studied a literary-journalistic form called the feuilleton. The feuilleton is a kind of conversational essay that appeared in its own section of newspapers, first started in response to Napoleonic censorship. In the two hundred years since, feuilletons often became important when political polarization or government censorship degraded the traditional news into ideological talking points. At such times, the feuilleton served as a place where writers, speaking in ordinary language, could tell of important events in a more meaningful way.
One example I studied was how, during the 1970s in Communist Czechoslovakia, a group of citizens started writing and sharing feuilletons among friends, telling an unofficial version of events, copying them over and passing them on in a form of self-publishing. These citizens would go on to lead a Revolution, the peaceful Velvet Revolution. One of these citizens would even become president.
You see, I came to this story knowing the power of ordinary citizens speaking the truth.
I thought it an appropriate time to share with you a fairly important feuilleton, one written by Václav Havel in response to the trial of the Plastic People of the Universe. Havel was never a big feuilletonist–his specialties are absurd drama and ponderous essays. But he wrote this back in 1976, when they were still in the early days of samizdat. The trial of the band, Plastic People, was a kind of last straw, It led directly to the foundation of Charter 77 (just over thirty years ago now), which in turn eventually led–after many setbacks and much pain–to the Velvet Revolution.
Here's the feuilleton that Havel wrote after the trial. It's my own crappy adaptation of a translation I did for a different purpose (couldn't find my professionally translated copy at home before I left). But you'll get the jist.
Something that originally was in no way out of the ordinary suddenly illuminated the time and the world we live in with an unexpected light, bringing its fundamental questions surprisingly to the fore. On the surface, nothing special happened: the trial took place at the specified time; it lasted as long as it was supposed to last and ended in the way it was supposed to: the accused were found guilty. Yet everything to which man was a witness here so obviously and urgently transcended itself that even those who had the fewest reasons to admit such a thing to themselves sensed it.
Havel, the playwright, goes on to describe the trial as if it's one big catastrophic play.
What is even stranger, nothing could be done about it: the play, once it started had to be played through to the end, thus finally showing how terribly its initiators had entangled themselves in the net of their own prestige. They did not dare to halt the whole thing and admit their error, but rather went through the embarrassing spectacle to the very end. At the same time the actors in this spectacle found themselves in a paradoxical situation: the more honestly they played their parts, the more obviously they uncovered their unforeseen meaning, thus becoming the co-creators of an entirely different performance than they had thought they were playing, or had wanted to play.
The description really resonates for me–the thought of a bunch of people launching "a play" that they thought they controlled, but one that ended up entangling them in totally unexpected ways. I see Libby, refusing to flip on Cheney, going through the "embarrassing spectacle" to the end. And David Addington, totally honest in his unfiltered babble of data, exposing the Unitary Executive for the farce it is.
And all of this, for Havel at least, provided a totally new view of the world.
A new view of the world opens out for us, and with it a new view for our own human possibilities, of what we are and what we could be.
The trial of the Plastic People, according to Havel's description, exposed the whole facade of power of Communist Czechoslovakia such that those who witnessed it looked on their own lives and actions differently. By seeing their lives–and the falseness of the power the government exercised over them–differently, it freed them to act. It empowered them to launch whole new kinds of actions.
Now I'm not saying this trial is definitely going to be the beginning of the end for the evil direction our country is headed in. Only time will tell whether this trial acquires more significance, finally, than Anna Nicole Smith's death.
But sometimes trials like this can be a beginning–the start of something important. I, for one, will think of this trial as a beginning, not an end in itself.
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Emptywheel!
FITZ!
Well said, Marcy. May it be so.
Plastic People oh baby now what’s got into you?
“Plastic People”
Absolutely Free / Frank Zappa 1967
Ladies and Gentlemen…
The President of the United States!
*”Fella Americans…Doot, Doot, Doot…”*
He’s been sick!–Doot! Doot!
And I think his wife is gonna bring him
Some chicken soap
Plastic people!
Oh, baby, now you’re such a drag
I know it’s hard to defend an unpopular policy
Every once in a while–
Plastic people!
Oh, baby, now you’re such a drag
And there’s this guy from the CIA he’s creepin’
Around Laurel Canyon
A fine little girl She waits for me
She’s as plastic as she can be
She paints her face With plastic goo
And wrecks her hair With some shampoo
Plastic people
Oh, baby, now you’re such a drag
“I dunno…sometimes I just get tired
Of ya honey–it’s…ah..your
Hair spray…or something…”
Plastic people
Oh, baby, now you’re such a drag
“I hear the sound of marching feet…
down Sunset Boulevard to Crescent Heights
…and there…at Pandora’s box…
We are confronted with…a vast
Quantity of…Plastic people…”
Take a day and walk around
Watch the Nazi’s Run your town
Then go home and check yourself
You think we’re singing
‘Bout someone else
But you’re Plastic people
Oh, Baby, now
You’re such a drag
Me see a neon Moon above
I searched for years I found no love
I’m sure that love Will never be
A product of Plasticity
A product of Plasticity
PLASTIC, PLASTIC PEOPLE–PLA-HA-HA-HA
HA-PLASTIC–You are–your foot–your hair
–your nose–your arms–you suck–you love
–you are–your being is–you’re plastic–blah
–blah–blah–blah plastic Peoples
-A prune is not a vegetable
–cabbage is a vegetable; makes it O.K.
–plastic people–plastic People
–you dream about…you think about…you eat
…you are…Ooo-Hoo-Hoo…
purple prancing–plastic People-
Pee-Pee-Pee-Pee-Pee-Peep!
Excellent post Marcy. I wish I could share your optimism. But then again St. Henry will be doing the great deed next week. That helps.
The Plastic People sure do get recycled a lot.
Yeah! We’re just getting going!
The welcome wagon is out again for W:
One of these citizens would even become president.
Note to self: Do not write any feuilletons.
Off topic, but, man, I am just dying to see a pic (or video) of Toensing on verdict day.. to see the hair! Anyone have a link?
Rev
Yeah lots of discount coupons- for emergency rooms.
People hate Bush as much in South America as they do in Iraq- and he’s scared shitless to go to Iraq. Didn’t anyone tell him about Brazil?
These are gonna be INSIDE visits- surrounded by TANKS..
Did Bush bring an aircraft carrier to sleep in?
I curious Marcy whether you see FDL and political blogs generally as a sort of feuilleton?
legaleze @ 14
I think samizdat, myself…
RadRobin @ 11
That hair! Like a bad left-over 70s shag. Even worse was the 80s outfit, the purple “I am sorry about my neck” turtleneck with the black leather jacket with black suede applique. And the tinsel earings.
But the worst part was her nasty grasping smile.
RadRobin @ 11
Try this.
I’m afraid the system of oppression in the West is a lot more stable than the old East bloc.
But there’s no downside to a message of hope, and your remarkable work certainly gives you extraordinary credibility.
Ill tempered lawyer in Poodle Skirt.
I sure hope you’re right, Marcy. After the euphoria of the verdict, I was plunged into a real downer upon hearing repeated “calls” for a Libby pardon on various shows last night. [Memo to Keith Olbermann: do NOT go on vacation at times like this. The show you ‘phoned in’ from Tampa on Tuesday night was great, but the chirpy you had hosting the thing last night made me cringe.]
I’m really disappointed in the two jurors who’ve been all over the air: their message seems to be “Libby seemed like a nice guy and a ‘victim;’ therefore he should be pardoned.”
And then there’s the litanty of Right Wing arguments: no underlying “crime,” etc. [Makes me too ill to even repeat them.]
And the final straw, although on an unrelated topic, was hearing on Air America today that NBC & ABC’s evening news programs haven’t even covered the firing of the USAs.
I despair for this country.
raven @ 5
This brings to mind a PSA I hear all of the time on Air America Minnesota (a privately-owned progressive station, thank gawd) – an ad about “Mannequinism” – people who do not involve themselves in the fight politique by not reading, writing letters and other ways to be political active – and then start finding themselves turning slowly into plastic. It is quite effective! Interesting to me – juxtaposing those ads with these comments here about ‘plastic people’! Thanks!
RevDeb @ 16
Natasha’s been watching too much “I love the 80’s” on VH1.
[epu’ed from prior thread:]
may says:
March 8th, 2007 at 2:27 pm
Yesterdays march 8,The Australian,newspaper,
page 10,world section.libby’s conviction described as the political equivalent of a traffic offence.Is it possible for someone closer to the story to enlighten this newspaper regarding the facts?
———-
[From the offending op-ed:]
“[…] Mr Fitzgerald may have started out in his own mind as a modern Eliot Ness. But all he ended up with was Libby’s untruth about a non-crime – an offence for sure, but, in terms of what he had hoped to uncover, the political equivalent of a traffic violation.
Libby is the guilty perpetrator of a small lie but the innocent victim of a much larger character and political assassination by a prosecutor and a press that never came close to making a real legal case out of what is no more than a conspiracy theory.”
http://www.theaustralian.news……03,00.html
Those Aussies must have some pretty strict traffic laws, eh?
I wonder if they’d print a letter to the editor from a Yank in New York, USA? ; )
RevDeb @
17
Good Lord. What the hell has Pat Benatar *done* to herself???
raven@5,
You may know, but in 1990, Zappa visited Czechoslovakia at the request of Havel, a lifelong fan, and was asked by Havel to serve as Special Ambassador to the West on Trade, Culture and Tourism.
KathieinMN @ 20
The song, along with his great “Trouble Everyday”, are part of the rythmn of my life!
Trouble Everyday
NewsHour just did the cameos of 14 more dead servicemen. I always stop what I’m doing and pay attention when they do that . It’s the least I can do. One 19 year old looked like a young boy.
It is all so tragic!
Badwater @ 24
I did but I forgot!
RadRobin @ 11,
There is better video at PBS if you can stomach a really good look. Libby convicted of obstruction of justice, perjury.
Thank you Marcy your message moved from my eyes to my brain, heart and then down through my toes. Do we dare to hope? Will congress do their job and investigate further? Or is this country left with a hollow and empty idea of justice and truth? A pardon
This is the most penetrating commentary I have seen on the trial, with a most grateful bow to those who rather concentrated on details of the trial.
No matter how much the idea might revolt, I think the pardon of Libby is only a matter of timing. Without excusing Libby for stupidity, it should be clear to anyone that the puppetmasters are more responsible than the gopher. I would prefer Libby do his time but what does that change? Perhaps in the end, he will. I ain’t no prophet.
A great deal has changed either way.
Maybe soon liberals will quit pretending to be progressives and blue dogs will quit pretending to be Democrats.
Nawww. Too much to ask.
Nice to dream though.
Best, Terry
Eli @
24
Hell is for Children…
Marcy, bought your book today, looking forward to reading it.
Anybody see this?
Plame to Testify Before Congress
Marcy, you’ve not only given a new foundation to underpin this story, you’ve introduced a new dimesion to the debate. Kudos!
“and all of this, for Havel at least, provided a totally new view of the world.”
That the Libby verdict, which is in part Due to Your Work, gives us a basis to coalesce around the great effort needed to overturn this madness, is a given. That you acknowledge the change in Weltanschauung is brilliant.
We can see how dangerous it is by what became of Havel’s life. But the task is still there for the taking, if we want to take it on.
Check out Havel on how to elicit change.
If only the people in amurka were intelligent enough (oh, here it comes) to understand this brilliant post. No matter how anyone differs, i want Havel’s new world, and i want it yesterday.
Semi-useless riff on “feuilleton”. It comes from the French noun feuille (f.) meaning leaf, sheet of paper, …, which then morphs into feuilleton (m.) which my French dictionary defines as a regularly appearing newspaper feature or a TV series. And to complete the circle back to Napoleon, the pastry which we in America term “napoleon” shows up in French bakeries as mille-feuille meaning thousand sheets (of thin dough). Bless the French for their cuisine and language.
Marcy,
That is exactly what I hope for. That Fitzmas will turn out to have been the catalyst for the awakening of theAmerican people, who will demand that our government hew to the obligations of our Constitution.
That means checks and balances, folks. That means no gaming the sytem. That means honesty in fact and faithfulness in office.
That means instead of go along to get along, that we demand our leaders whether elected or appointed, act like those “career” prosecutors and “career” agents and “career” contract psecailists (shout out to my fave Bunny Greenhouse)who just want to do thier jobs honestly, and with integrity.
Nice to see a mere visit from our president causes nations to spasm with violence.
Heckuva job.
-GSD
Leftist geurrillas oppose rightist chimp.
-GSD
ThinkProgress reports the following:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…..orney-law/
Twisted Martini @
33
Really worth reading and calling the Diane Rehms show to ask that they have Marcy on as a guest.
I assumed the juror that is on Tweety was NOT the same on last night?
Hey Marcy/Jane,
Here is another great Bush graphic:
http://www.savvyhomeadvice.com/articles/tji.htm
Enjoy…
Bibi Quitetheyahu is whoring for war against Iran.
-GSD
Gary @
43
OK thats the wrong link…., try this link:
http://tonova.typepad.com/thes….._o_fun.jpg
This is about as awake as the american people get.
Harold Ford, like Zell Miller only less douchey.
Ford to work for Fox.
-GSD
For you Fitzgerald watchers, I just got back from some non-political, horse related posts elsewhere, but one of the people involved is Canadian and was asking if we, here in the states, are getting the huge media coverage they are in Canada about Conrad Black.
To which she pretty much heard: Crickets Chirping.
She was shocked, saying – but you had so much coverage of Martha Stewart – how can Conrad Black not be BIG NEWS?
Oh well.
Thought you might like this:
The Canadian papers are so full of it that even the travel section had a “what to do in Chicago when you’re there for the Black trial” article
See – they’ve learned from the Libby trial. Spectator info.
Thanks for the nice comments, folks. Been cooking mr. emptywheel a homecooked meal. He’s gotten skinny while I’ve been in DC.
Crony journalism alert, John Dickerson will be in Washington Week in Review to dicuss the Libby case.
Badwater @
25
Which was shot down by James Baker.
inspiring post, marcy– thank you very much.
I earnestly hope that this is the new beginning; it’s why we fight so hard.
Thank you FDL!
Isn’t The Austrailian owned by Rupert Murdoch?
Alice @ 53
Well, THAT would explain a lot
Heading home to feed Littleprop. It’s a school night.
Catch on the flip.
Marcy, I really love this post. Give context and frames things to show the bigger implications. Very visionary
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 40
I’m sure there’ll be a signing statement…
Twisted Martini @ 33
Hey twisted – had a nice chat with your friend. Great guy.
Will you be at YKos? I will and hope to meet you.
Eloquently put Emptywheel and stretched my mind to possibilites, paths and outcomes I hadn’t contemplated.
Thank you for the much needed thought that whatever the perceived outcome of things other things occured that take on a life of their own.
You write beautifully.
Namaste,
Tina Louuise
http://www.armsagainstwar.info
Waxman Asks Fitzgerald to Testify Before Congress By Jason Leopold
Thursday 08 March 2007 Congressman Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Oversight Committee, said Thursday he wants Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald to testify before his committee about his investigation into the leak of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame-Wilson’s identity. Plame-Wilson, Waxman’s office said, has agreed to testify before Congress on March 16.
The announcement comes on the heels of a story first reported by Truthout on Wednesday, which stated that some members of Congress were engaged in discussions Tuesday about the possibility of holding immediate hearings and asking Fitzgerald to provide evidence he obtained during the course of his three-year investigation about the roles Vice President Dick Cheney and other White House officials played in the Plame leak. Plame is married to former ambassador Joseph Wilson, a fierce critic of the Iraq war who accused the administration of “twisting” pre-war intelligence. The Oversight Committee hearing, scheduled for March 16, comes nearly four years to the day that the US invaded Iraq.
@truthout
looseheadprop @ 37
I have been on such pins and needles for all six years that this crap has been going on. I was freaked when Jimmy Baker got the Supremes to put him in office.
And I’ve been upset about something almost every single day since.
I’ve moaned and bitched about them and about the Dems. I think it’s time for me to trust the universe… you know what goes around comes around is absolute, right? I know it intellectually but I keep looking at the reality we face every day with these criminals in charge of America.
This trial has shed some very strong light our way (the way of America, the middle class and the US Constitution). I’m going to begin to have more confidence in the power of the light/the good to smash these evil bastards.
Finally, I’m going to start trusting the Dems we put in office. They want the same thing we want, huh? Let’s keep protesting, calling, writing and blogging, but I think we have really opened it up people. Thanks to ALL of YOU who have been working on this. I think we have a winner!!!
Your assessment is fantastic Dr. emptywheel (LOL) Sounds funny to call you Dr… and this dissertation topic is way beyond anything I’ve ever studied!!! :)
dab_from_ct @ 57
Hey Dab, thanks so much for that!
Don’t know about Yearly Kos yet. I may try to sneak away for an FDL rally and martini party though. I will be in CT in July though, maybe we can hook up then. I’ll bring some candy from Ada’s!
OT – Does anyone know when/if Scooter’s mug shot is going to be released?
Mauimom @
20
And the Guantanamo hearings started without benefit of lawyers or reporters. OK, so let’s look at it this way: we have discovered a serious *market lack* that we can exploit!
This post brings up a larger topic that I think requires a longer ’sanctioned by FDL’ post. The fact that the blogoshpere is shaping into the opposition papers/news outlets akin to the eastern bloc countries of the soviet union in the ’70’s and ’80’s that were a necessary precursor to revolution. There are a gazillion other arguments/analyses to be made about the meta-future of the USA, so this is not the place but I wanted to point out the parallels.
looseheadprop @
54
Grace told me and told me to Ask Alice.
Tina Louise @ 58
Naw, couldn’t be,This Tina Louise?
Nope, I missed the extra letter,sorry.
Pups, if you want to understand what Marcy’s talking about, you would be well served by reading the link at 35. Further, you should know that feuiltons in modern European media simply means features, like discussion of what color panties brittney would have been wearing had she worn panties when she hadn’t.
It’s all a bit degenerative, as if western civilization was dying.
I agree. I take what you write as all about the media, the one we watch with bewildered amusement because it is so divorced from reality that all of it takes on the aura of a soap opera.
I suspect that living with Pravda was not unlike what we receive today from our television and radio and mainstream press. The internet is the extension of the American book, which has served us well in the past, but it was a slow process. The lies can now be seen as they occur. This is the profound shift that changes the whole equation.
Baudrillard is not dead.
And this is not off-topic.
First, R.I.P. Anna N. Smith. [Because, though treated as a non-human by the corporate media, she was just as human as every other human being is and was.]
Second, emptywheel’s essay seems to describe something I haven’t stopped thinking about since I watched the government’s press conference on C-SPAN after the verdict.
Rather than the words themselves, or the tone Fitzgerald used to speak them, I was instead struck by an unspoken message or messages that his press conference, and his face and the faces of his colleagues, silently conveyed, when face to face with the national “press.” I have various theories about it, but one conclusion I’ve drawn could relate to Havel’s description of a new perspective dawning. In this case, though, it’s the realization of how besieged honorable, upright public servants now feel in the toxic environment of what passes for public debate in the national media. The difference between the unspoken message conveyed by Fitzgerald to the media at his indictment press conference a year ago and that conveyed by him at his verdict press conference, though he never allowed his words or tone to be less than professional and forthright, speaks volumes to me.
I’m ashamed of what society at large is now saying to, and about, scrupulous United States Attorneys like Patrick Fitzgerald and superb Department of Justice attorneys like Peter Zeidenberg. Ashamed that those who are upholding, at significant personal cost, high standards of behavior while working to responsibly apply the rule of law on behalf of the American people should be subjected to dishonest second-guessing by those who have the ethics of third-world dictators and other corrupt democracy-hostile petty tyrants. What a travesty that people like Fred Hiatt, Robert Kaiser, “Pinch” Sulzberger, Roger Ailes and the deceitful federal Republican political incumbents they enable, and corporate CEOs they serve, are being allowed to dominant and define public discourse, to the great detriment of our nation’s founding principles.
Praise be for the Green Brothers, who just took over Air America (2.0) with the honest promotion of full and fair democratic debate for the benefit of the American people and similar concepts of public responsibility high on their radio network’s agenda. That’s a “new perspective” I can certainly heartily endorse.
Now that everybody is safely out of town I can share my gossip about Plamehouse: they don’t eat. Or at least I have no evidence that they eat. Details below, originally at my blog.
The gossip about the Verdict Party:
One of the funny things about Plamehouse is while it may be a Vonnegutian karass, it is not a well-ordered home.
Upon my arrival for the blowout Verdict Party yesterday, I took inventory: two over the top giddy bloggers—Hamsher and Wheeler; one enormous bottle of wine from looseheadprop; one regular bottle of wine; and not a damn thing to eat. I mean not a granola bar. Not a cracker.
Open the refrigerator, absolutely nothing. I’ve seen more food in bachelor apartments. What did these people have for lunch? Turns out neither had lunch. What about breakfast? One of them had no breakfast. [Wait, didn’t Jane blog about coffee and pastry at the courthouse? Historians want to know these things. Maybe I’m remembering one of the Stoller DQ crowd who had no breakfast. In any case absolutely no one was interesting in procuring food.]
For the next couple of hours, we drank a wee toast or two to our combined efforts to make the law apply to the high as well as the low. It’s been a long time working to understand the details of a complicated legal case. Finally: success. A toast to the hardworking bloggers. A toast to Fitzgerald and team. A toast to the faerie godmother.
That’s all I know. If I knew how to do a post I would but ignorance is my constant companion. Trying to learn new things.
A toast to the remarkable emptywheel, who may yet save the nation.
raven @
42
same, interview showed part last night, part tonight
hungrycoyote @ 34
Yeah–it took long enough. The “FDL phenomenon” is reaching strange proportions in its warping of the news cycle. Have been looking around for coverage on Waxman’s release, along with the letter to Fitzgerald and the posting of his 05 Rove security clearance questions, and didn’t see anything for the last few hours. But of course it was instantaneous here.
Now it’s time to prepare for the spin on the hearings. The AP story seemed to distort the Fitzgerald situation slightly, trying to suggest that he had already declared himself finished, and then ran into a non-reply from his office.
Guess it didn’t make the East Coast news, which must have been about Democratic Iraq plan. Curious to see how this plays out…
victoria2dc @ 60
Bustednuckles @ 66
….not me, are you a fan? I am a humble poetry writing activist (still can’t get used to that word!!) here in the chilly north of England. Hope that doesn’t disappoint?
Namaste,
Tina Louise (spelled without the THE)
egregious @ 71
You didn’t see all those vegetables in the fridge?
They had been there for 3 weeks, granted. But that counts as food.
And the Guantanamo hearings started without benefit of lawyers or reporters. OK, so let’s look at it this way: we have discovered a serious *market lack* that we can exploit!
anybody blogging those hearings?
Marcy – can’t wait to meet you Saturday night.
When I read that passage in your prologue I had two reactions – 1) I had never heard of a feuilleton and was fascinated by the concept. As a student of history it made perfect sense that people would find ways to communicate truth when traditional media was not doing its job and 2) Firedoglake (and books like Anatomy of Deceipt) were definitely fulfilling that purpose for so many people
Buck Batard @ 68
During the Chernobyl incident my Russian friend Ljudmilla was listening to CBC (Canada) news and phoning her relatives in Kiev every day to tell them what was happening not 40 km from where they lived because Pravda would not. That worked for about a week, then Chernobyl was old news and CBC dropped coverage. The lightbulb went on for both of us. “It is the same! Pravda or CBC, for different reasons but the same result, they will not tell you what is going on.”
dab_from_ct @ 77
It should be fun. See you then.
Hello Tina from England.
As for the pictured Tina Louise, She was the actress that played Ginger on the comedy show from the sixties, Gilligans Island.
And yes, When I was a wee lad I had a huge crush on her.
The debate rages on decades later, Ginger, or Mary Ann.
OMG – you know, she’s still running her little shop – Selecting penny candy and putting it in those little bags, with her nicotine stained fingers. Gaaaak
Some people have noted that Jane is cute. But Marcy is also cute. Don’t forget that. It should be stressed.
White House hangs veto over pullout plan
3 week old vegs in the fridge:
Must have been deeply hidden. I felt that you guys needed a meal. It just tickled me that after being a feminist since 1968 the role of cook/food provider fell to me.
Ok I will give you partial credit for having some theoretical food in the house.
Still can hardly believe WE WON!!!!! Yay justice!!!!!
And next?
RevDeb @
17
You got a new very nice review at amazon.
Marcy, I was born in Kalamazoo seventy years ago, a time when none of the women I knew had any hopes of doing more than nursing or elementary school teaching. If I had known when I was young what an education you would attain and the uses to which you would put your education and your intelligence, your example would have spared me years of desolated spirit in my teens and twenties. I eventually took an education of my own, partly at MSU, but overcoming the inertia of the known world was hard. I read your writing and watch your TV analysis with enormous admiration and gratitude to you and with wonder at how the world has changed in my lifetime. I also appreciate the restraint with which you write, avoiding the combustions that weaken others’ arguments.
Thanks to you and Jane and Christy and SWOPA and all the others who have kept the Libby case on the front burner and helped the rest of us pick our way through the wilderness of the law. I did call John Conyers’s office today, asking that he accept Patrick Fitzgerald’s near-offer of evidence that the casus belli was intentionally trumped up.
Blessings on all your heads.
maloneontherange says
“The fact that the blogoshere is shaping into the opposition papers/news outlets akin to the eastern bloc countries of the soviet union in the ’70’s and 80’s that were a necessary precursor to revolution.”
I took my name because in my assessment, we are in a time much like the pre-revolutionary period of news.
We are news. This is news. We have, indeed, had enough of King George and Richard, the Delusional.
We are fortunate to be the reporters of our unfortunate times.
Reminds me of a blog I’m doing tomorrow of Libby and the Bush Crime Family on The Obsolete Man episode of The Twilight Zone
emptywheel @ 49
I finished your book on a 2 day getaway with my husband. And I was one of the crazy folks here who read every word of your live blogging (Swopa too). You got nothing wrong in that book and often your analysis is exactly what Fitzgerald said. It is SOOO impressive. I will write a glowing review for Amazon.
Do you think the MSM has covered the Libby verdict as much as the death of Anna Nicole Smith?
Fine essay, Marcy — I think this part . . .
. . . applies to the war. It’s as though we have to go through it to the end before Americans can begin to undertand that there is another way of thinking about America’s role in the world (and their relationship to their own government).
dab_from_ct @ 81
My brother’s in-laws live right down the street, on Chapel Lane.
Woodhall Hollow @
29
Good lord! What a lying whore! (not you WHH…true to your words “if [I] could stomach it). Thanks for the video link. Now I know what the talk has been about. Yikes.
Off topic, but I’m sure some of you would want to see this diary at Kos
Steve Gilliard: healing thoughts needed now
darkblack @ 51
Correct, but as noted in the article, Zappa was appointed unofficial cultural ambassador anyway.
ot, but I have recently acquired a new Zappa cd, produced in 2006. There’s more to come still.
Both Steve G and Jane are at the top of my prayer list.
Twisted Martini @ 93
I used to live on Riverside Ave – across from Club Road.
Too funny
Twisted Martini @ 97
Mine as well.
pow wow @
70
Beautifully written. i second this emotion.
CNN is saying (so, of course, consider the source) that Rep. Waxman’s hearings are not to investigate the CIA leak but to investigate ways Congress may change the law(s) to better protect CIA and other covert officers.
They also said that Waxman is not inviting Fitz to testify but to confab with them and offer them advice – in private, I believe.
So, there seems to be conflicting information out there…
egregious – no food in PlameHouse? Well, sheeeeit – i may have to come down there and cook!
dab_from_ct @ 77
i have often thought of the internet generally and fdl specifically as a direct descendant of pamphleteering and the democracy wall in tianamen square. i did not know about feuilletons, but it sure fits like a glove.
marcy, i too think that the trial, and the outcome, and what may yet follow as a kind of tipping point, when even the uninterested or distracted mass of americans begin to understand just how dishonestly they’ve been treated, and how contemptuously they’ve been held, by the people running the show. your take, of course, is much more eloquent and memorable.
my biggest hope is that the dems come out of their duck-and-cover caution and realize that THIS is the time to gain traction, to press their advantage to lay out limits on the authoritarians and bludgeon the republicans into submission by the revealing of the truth.
it’s not going to be easy, but the fight, i think, has been joined.
thank you for all you’ve done in covering this trial. i hope you find other projects as compelling.
Bustednuckles @ 80
mary ann. it’s not even close.
Continuing to look at the news, there’s a big difference between “Waxman to Investigate WH about Plame leak” (Crooks and Liars) and “Valerie Plame to Testify before Congress” (AP, on Huffpost and way down at the bottom of Drudge). Haven’t seen anything on NYT or LAT (Waxman’s home base) as yet. And no actual reporting aside from AP’s phone call to Fitzgerald’s office. Haven’t seen that anyone has called up Waxman’s 05 Rove security clearance memo, that was linked here on FDL.
Are we still doing “poor Scooter” and “has Cheney lost influence at the WH?” (for the 50th time) tonight?
Kathryn in MA @ 102
Oooh, oooh! That would be a great way of saving them money! And they’d probably eat better, too.
dmg @
104
Pshaw. The sexiest person on the island was hands-down the Professor. So smart. So sexy. Rowr.
Gaaaaaaaah. I just finished writing tonight’s Late Nite and boy
are my arms tiredis my brain tired. It’s a post about Gay Republicans and that topic just wears me out. It hurts my mind to write about that kind of darkness. It makes me feel like I need to stand in a hot shower for a day or two.Don’t agree. Start drafting their kids to Iraq, Afganistan and Iran; and let price at the pumps go up to 4 or 5 dollars a gallon? People will sit right up.
zhiv @ 105
For criminy’s sake, if they are not going to investigate the Plame leak, why the hell would they call Valerie Plame to testify?
Kafkaesque, it is.
carolyn urban @ 108
Hey, carolyn!
How’s tricks?
TRex @ 107
i’ll give you this. you KNOW the professor was taking mary ann out for major field trips. weren’t they often coming back to camp together?
Hey Dab, did you know the Keefes? As in Dr Keefe the OBGYN? I think they lived on Club Road.
TRex @ 107
When I was about nine and while Gilligan’s Island was on we were held up as a barge went down the Welland canal.
On board was a guy who looked just like the professor. He stood there with his arms crossed and watched us watching him. I didn’t know where to look as I was filled for the first time with an emotion that I was to feel often later as a teenager in the throes of young love.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..42279.html
darkblack-
you kept posting about lie-berman and his swift boat my-buddy-best-friend earlier, someone posted this link the other day, had a few juicier bits of dialogue in it than the ones you had……enjoy………
and mods-don’t know why when i post a link-it repeats it, i only paste it once………
Bionic, TRex, dmg, bustednuckles — Jeez, all this romance over Gilligan’s Island?
terry hallinan @ 31
COuntdown covering the St. Henry Waxman upcoming Plame hearing.
Yes.
Schuster makes excellent point that this would put Valerie Wilson’s face on the CIA and the damage done rather than all the rattling on about what a nice guy scoots is.
now, now, just b/c
Tommy Flanaganjason leopold is one of the sources . . .good evening firedogs !
with apologies to Terry Hallinan: someday I’ll learn the mechanics of how to quote and respond. Sorry. He ends at “end of trial” I begin This is the perfect coda….
emptywheel @
49
…and you cook?!?!
What’s for dinner?
Kairos at 116, beautiful moving prayer, Amen.
Phoenix Woman @
106
If i’m holding tons of food, maybe they’d let me in!
One thing that I always mention to my wingnut friends here in GA is Soros’s roll with the Czech’s. Type in Havel and Soros in google and it’s amazing the results. Some of our citizens certainly tend to vilify heroes, don’t they.
http://oversight.house.gov/
MR. HENRY WAXMAN CALLING MR. PATRICK J.FITZGERALD AND MORE
Tithonia @ 115
all this romance over ON gilligan’s island. absolutely.
just another party i was invited to watch but not attend.
Hey TRex. I thought I heard you stomping around.
It’s 20 below zero out, I’ve got a chicken roasting, a glass of red wine going; and I’m relishing the eloquence and passion of this community.
I am a fan of emptywheel. In my opinion, however, she would write better if she adhered to Strunk & White. For example, the construction, “The reason is…because” is faulty. It’s not good English. To Emptywheel: You’ll be a better advocate (or writer generally) if you adhere to rules of good writing (which, of course, disallow ending a sentence in a preposition). This from a tax lawyer.
Jonathan @ 127
hey give her a break its been along trial
OT: via HuffPo
The National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC) has obtained a copy of an official complaint filed by a veteran FBI Special Agent, Gilbert Graham, with the Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General (DOJ-OIG). SA Graham’s protected disclosures report the violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) in conducting electronic surveillance of high-profile U.S. public officials.
Great post, Marcy. I fully agree. Thanks for this amazing effort you and the others put into this extravaganza. Wasn’t it Churchill who said something like, “It is not the beginning of the end, rather it is the end of the beginning.”? Scooter may or may not get pardoned but you can bet your sweet bippy Alberto “We doan need no steenking bad-ges” Gonzales will be cooking some mumbo jumbo to get him off. Hopefully, Scooter’s just the ignition sequence of the BushCo house of cards going down in flames. Scooter, as a player in this drama, is now unimportant, methinks. Having said that, that doesn’t mean we can sit on our laurels and wait to see what happens next. Now is the perfect time to really put the fire to the feet of the Dems in Congress, particularly the Blue Dogs. An old leftist once said, “The difference between an evolutionary and a revolutionary is the revolutionary takes advantage of opportunity as it arises.”
If I hear one more half-assed troop withdrawal plan outta Congress, I’m gonna heave. Where’s my bucket?
Never give up.
Terry @ 31:
Right on, man!
i never thought to hear Strunk & White referenced on a blog. wonders never cease.
To me one of the most telling bits in the trial was Libby’s tale of the meeting where he and Dick,Hadley and others were there. He didn’t speak up about something because Dick didn’t.
These two had worked so closely for so long that Libby anticipated Dick’s concerns and new not to share something Dick would like to keep a secret. It also tells of the tension between Dick and other WH staff, i.e., GWB’s people, if I remember that it was Hadley. Or maybe it was about just not spilling any more beans than necessary.
Still, it was an interesting insight into their group dynamic.
Libby’s GJ testimony, transcript and audio, from an impeccable source:
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/…..index.html
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Tithonia @ 115
well, it was a three hour tour.
QuentinCompson @ 133
I like the idea of playing Libby’s most egregious lies through a loudspeaker, repeatedly, outside the Whitehouse or at other protests against the Bush administration.
I am working on concepts of frustration, patience, did I mention frustration? and people who are willing to help you—a miracle. Long story which would be off topic here. The good part: one of the country’s largest banks re-opened the entire national wire capability to help us urgently get money to Russia. Confused about what is taking too much time off topic here, what is sharing with the community, what is overly promoting one’s own blog. I throw this story out for your interest without links.
Senior Republicans have long been aware of problems at Walter Reed
More….
http://public.cq.com/docs/cqt/…..65100.html
lina @ 131
What. Strunk and White are never off-topic. Btw one of their relatives goes to my Mother’s church in Ohio.
lolo @ 124
Waxman is the man. So is Murtha. Where’s Finegold lately?
lolo @ 124
Waxman seems to have a lot more on the ball than Conyers does.
As much as BushCo & friends would like us to believe that the Libby trial was much ado about nothing – their reaction to the verdict says otherwise. Every time they react with a vengance and overkill (like the response to Wilson, the few days after Lieberman lost the primary, and the Libby verdict – to name a few) you have to know that they consider whatever it is to be a mortal threat to their power.
As infuriating as the coordinated and full-court press disinformation campaign was Tuesday night & Wednesday (the response of the WaPo and WSJ come to mind), it is also evidence that the Libby guilty verdict struck right at the heart of the Bush administration.
The fact is – they have been exposed and the genie can’t be put back in the bottle.
I must comment on Emptywheel as a writer and her own evolution from her dissertation study and process. She is a writer who praises her editor, who takes care of the quibbles the tax lawyer notices. But Emptywheel writer has the ideas, scholarship, critical thinking, passion and activism, plus outrageous humor, that makes for books, and books to come, not to mention this gold: all of us receive her analysis and instawriting on a daily basis!! Heart, mind, fingers to keyboard, words, action!
I set up one of those virtual candles for Steve Gilliard like I did for Jane a while back.
tbsa at 129
couldn’t find it in there anywhere–link?
lina -
our very own dino boy
What Amazona said @ 141.
Twisted Martini @ 112
No – but I knew the Sneads and Dr. Weinberger – both on Club Rd.
Here’s part of the letter Waxman sent to Fitz..
(bold mine)
Sure sounds like he’s asking him to testify.
HENRY A. WAXMAN, CALIFORNIA
CHAIRMAN
snip
The Honorable Patrick J. Fitzgerald
Special Counsel
Office of Special Counsel
Bond Federal Building
1400 New York Avenue NV/
Ninth Floor
Washington, DC 20530
Dear Mr. Fitzgerald:
I commend you on your professional and thorough investigation into the disclosure of Valerie Plame’Wilson’s identity as a covert CIA agent. It is apparent that you followed the facts where they led and served the interests of justice and the American people.
By necessity, your investigation had a narrow legal focus: ‘Were any federal criminal statutes violated by White House officials? Your investigation, however, has raised broader
questions of national significance. I am writing to invite you to meet to discuss how the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, which is the principal oversight committee in
the U.S. House of Representatives, can become informed of your views about these broader
issues.
snip
Your perspective on these matters is important.
After the verdict was announced yesterday, one juror expressed the view that former
Chief of Staff to the Vice President Lewis “Scooter” Libby was only “a fall guy.” This juror’s views encapsulated questions that many in Congress and the public have about whether the ultimate responsibility for the outing of Ms. V/ilson rests with more senior officials in the White House. This is another area where you have a unique perspective.
I recognize that as a federal prosecutor, you are constrained by the rules of grand jury
secrecy. But you undoubtedly recognize that Congress has a responsibility to examine the policy and accountability questions that your investigation has raised. As a result of your investigation, you have a singular understanding of the facts and their implications that bear directly on the issues before Congress.
I respectfully request that you meet with me and the Committee’s Ranking Member, Tom
Davis, to discuss the possibility of testifying before the Committee and other means by which
you can inform the Committee about your views and the insights you obtained during the course
of your investigation.
I look forward to the opportunity to speak with you.
Sincerely,
Henry A. Waxman
Chairman
cc: Tom Davis
Ranking Minority Member
everhopeful @ 137
Anyone who has visited a VA Hospital or Nursing Home can see the problems as plain as the nose on his face. Privatization of staff has resulted in fewer and poorer quality workers. Workers want benefits. The difference between today and when Bill Clinton was in office is staggering. I speak from personal experience. Bill Clinton was good for the VA and VA hospitals.
dmac -
couldn’t find it at huffpo either, got this from NSWC website
NSWC
new thread folks
Incredible post, Marcy; I knew about your work, expected it to be tied in because everything you’ve done so far has been part of a nouveau feuilleton. This post closes the sale by noting not only the expression of both the truth and dissent in the feuilleton, but the accomplishment of the next generation through the widening of the Overton Window (literally opening a new view, as per Havel*).
Yet this medium goes one step beyond, Yet Another Social Dissent System (YASDS). It incorporates the written, the oral, the digital, the analog, allows us to be there nearly unfiltered where previous iterations required trust in the authors/scribes and the filters they may have used out of choice or out of necessity. It’s non-linear, less subject to linear authoritarian control for its multiple facets and delivery methodologies, including even mature linear systems like books.
Verdict day, while many of us were immersed in the giddiness of the moment, I was texting several FirePups as we followed along with you and Jane, emailing many more personal contacts, following newscrawl on television, posting comments, chatting Gabbly about the occasion, making cellphone calls back and forth with Pat_AlexVA right there on the steps of Prettyman courthouse as he snapped photos of Fitzgerald, Libby’s defense team and juror Collins.
This is feuilleton on crack, a pamphlet laced with speed.
We’ve now broken the back of old media; Verdict Day showed us all what was possible. FireDogLake with Jane and Marcy on site demonstrated that we can not only read the truth, we can be there.
(*Wouldn’t the winger from the Mackinaw Center who first outlined the Overton Window be peeved if he knew that FireDogLake mastered the concept?)
Jonathan @ 127
There is a time and place for everything.
This is not it.
hackworth @ 149
Hackworth,
It has been repeatedly suggested that we not confuse Walter Reed which is an Army hospital with the network of VA hospitals. They are both hurting because of the repug. administration, but they are two different entities.
Jonathan @ 127
Get serious. It’s grammatically correct. She writes very clearly.
RevDeb @ 9
My impressionable young son and I heard that on the radio while driving. He practically spit his icecream out. Never know when they are listening.
pow wow @
70
thanks for that p.w.
although there were certain neurochemicals affecting fitzgerald’s post verdict talk – i also felt there was more being conveyed then just his words on the 2 occassions i saw him speak to the press. i read it as a quiet, yet firm sense of conviction about what he was conveying, stemming from believing he was onto something monumental. but maybe i was just transferring my opinion of him onto him.
as to your feeling ashamed for what others are doing & saying to take down those we revere – i can relate. sometimes when i see this type of behavior i feel embarrassed – not quite the same as ashamed. then i force myself to see the bigger picture & my embarrassment is replaced w/ hope. i have trained myself over the years to see the glass as 1/2 full – which certainly comes easier since nov 7th.
wanishi
ps – i too have great hopes for the green brothers. lived in manhattan many years during the 80’s -90’s so had a good dose of mark. he’s got his pluses & his minuses – just like the rest of us
Jonathan @
127
Emptywheel is writing informally, in modern idiomatic style. She’s doing fine. Formal gramatical structure is important, certainly, for business writing, essays, and other formal compositions. For blog postings? Not so much.
This from a professional book editor.
Rayne @ 152
Good for you, Rayne.
Looooooou!!!!!!
You’ve got to fight to make what’s right,
You’ve got to fight to keep your legendary love…Legendary Hearts
and Havel…..
dab_from_ct @
158
I hope you noticed I delivered that in my “Mom voice.”
Ahem.
;-)
dmac @ 143
couldn’t find it in there anywhere–link?
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0703/S00102.htm
thanks cbl
Sorry, but the criticism of emptywheel’s sentence construction will not stand. I’m going to assume it was a witty stab. First of all, she’s a genius simply based on her TYPING skills. On top of that put encyclopedic knowledge of the Plame case.
Next let’s go to the ninja drubbing of Ted Maguire today in the earlier thread, which had one comment voicing sympathy for the mysterious emaciated mr. emptywheel, should he ever make a standard male mistake. Impressive. Just to show she’s always watching, this was followed by the evocative “home-cooked meal” tableau earlier in the thread.
But my favorite item, which calls out for comment after the shocking grammatical critique, is the subtle introduction, hair once again flying in the face, of not only the fact of the PhD (oh, we’re all PhDs reading FDL, of course) but that it was written on the funicular, the fusillage, the feuilleton, fullerton, whatever-the-feuillque the thing is. No biggie. Just how the wheel rolls.
I think in all the OT movie casting that went on we all missed the obvious: CHS is the subversive truth-telling trophy wife Lovie; after today’s Tina Louise run-in JH and her Hollywood stylings brings Ginger’s magnificent wardrobe to the island, aka Plamehouse. So you all know who emptywheel is, or as it says above in the thread, “definitely Mary Ann.” And I’ll let one of their many fans and supporters get to work on the photoshop.
Mr. emptywheel?! Dang! My love will remain unrequited!
Oh, well…
President Nixon. Now More Than Ever.
I’d encourage people to think of who they’d like Waxman to subpoena, there may not be another hearing.
I’m going to suggest Toensing as I think she would lead to anyone among the Republicans who was worried about outing someone at the CIA.
I might also suggest Tenet as he could defend Plame and better define her status at the CIA (re:IIPA for instance).
Another dream witness might be Armitage – did anyone in the WH or OVP tell him about Plame/Wilson before he met Woodward?
I’d ask Cheney exactly when he first learned of Plame (under oath of course)?
I might even try asking that Repug lobbyist friend of Novak’s a bit more about his understanding of this scandal.
EW could have additional suggestions.
I’ll add, with some urgency, that the right-wingnuts are preparing their own recommendations and supporting documents for the Repubs on the Waxman Committee, see JOM and read the second half of this thread mostly:
http://justoneminute.typepad.c…..tzger.html
thanks eureka
wow. love that havel.
“they could not admit their own error“: once you eliminate the neocon True Believers in American empire by use of its otherwise useless leftover cold war muscle, all you have left is this class of, not war-lusters, but merely those afraid to admit to themselves they were wrong. it is in fact the harder class to dislodge from the road to peace.
kim @ 165
aside from the 4 named in the wilson’s civil suit – my dream witness has to be tenant. just think about all he must know that is germaine to this case. he didnt get the medal of honor for what he DID do after all – it was for what he DIDN’T do/say. novack would be on my list purely for entertainment purposes – i’d love to see his smirk be replaced w/ fear as he realized, sh*t, i’m being forced to be accountable for what i’ve done.
egregious @
71
Do we need to make a call to the Welcome Wagon, or donate food stamps, or something? I mean, for all they did, surely they deserved at least some crackers and cheese, or maybe even lox & bagels, to go with their wine.
Perhaps they had no one available to shop while they were out saving the Nation?
Napoleon once famously said that an Army travels on its stomach. Perhaps FDL needs a Quartermaster corps?
Bob in HI
Hey, popcorn and wine was one of my all time favorite meals at one time. Those women, they just don’t think about food like guys do… toast for dinner??!
Jacqrat @ 120
Swordfish, salad, bread. Simple.
But I do make the very best pie in the world.
Jonathan @ 127
Hey Jonathan.
This is the blogosphere. Not tax court. Not even real business English rules against ending in preposition. But the blogosphere? Ha!
“Swordfish, salad, bread. Simple.
But I do make the very best pie in the world.”
No doubt, baking rewards attention to detail.
EW, I’ll repeat that the JOMers are preparing something – either recommendations for the Repubs on Waxman’s Committee or some sort of 501 fund.
kim @ 173
they have nothing better to do. Give them enough rope and they will hang themselves. I never saw so many idiots together on one blog since……..
Tithonia @ 115
I once dated a guy whose mother had gone out with Bob Denver several times. He said that Bob was a really nice guy, he hoped his mom would marry him. Didn’t happen though.
I once dated a girl whose mother went out with Steve Martin in high school, he was hilarious apparently.
Mary @ 48
To bring people up to speed: Black owned the Jerusalem Post and the Telegraph, and his board of directors included Kissinger and Richard Perle. Perle is tangentially connected with the scam that Black has been indicted for. He is just barely within the reach of the law. Let’s hope something comes out that let’s Mr. Fitz get him.
pow wow @ 70:
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. Can you elaborate on the difference of tone between the OCT 2005 press conference, and the post-verdict conference?
lolo @ 174
I don’t think they’re all that harmless, give them a figurehead speaking talking points and they’re suddenly quite powerfull.
I heard two interesting things this evening:
1.) Michael Duffy of Time.com said on Matthews tonight that Libby’s story was an elaborate scheme with several aspects that was developed inside the White House which people will stick with and
2.) John Dean said on Randi Rhodes said that this event started with a ‘break-in’ as did Watergate. This break-in was in Rome to take the materials for the Niger forgeries.
JoyB @ 178 – I’m trying not to spell it out too much, in part because I think it was unintended, but I’ll say this much:
If I had been a member of the press corps present for Fitzgerald’s post-verdict press conference, I think I would have come away feeling that this top-notch prosecutor and his serious-minded and extremely competent colleagues expected few of Fitzgerald’s post-verdict comments and opinions to be taken seriously or reported honestly by those there to record them. In short, I would feel like a member of a disreputable and disrespected group of people who (the honest, modest and very savvy) Fitzgerald saw little or no value in addressing except that his professional duties required him to provide us a chance to query him – knowing in advance the “spin” and politicized questions to come – at least for a short while after his hard-fought verdict.
During his indictment press conference, on the other hand, I thought Fitzgerald treated the members of the media as equal partners in the search for truth on behalf of the American people, and went out of his way to accommodate them and to treat them with respect and deference, just as he doubtless expected them to treat the legal process that was launched by the Libby indictment with respect and deference.
I think perhaps the phrase “sadder but wiser” applies here to the government team, if I’ve read their reactions accurately. [I’m also assuming that the gall of knowing you’ve been conned by a cover-up conducted by those at the highest levels of our government, without having the evidence in hand to expose the misdeeds and prosecute the perpetrators, and without the freedom to explain the situation to the public (or the jurors), played into their mindsets and post-verdict expressions, exhausted as I assume many of them are.]
I feel for them. As I did for the purged United States Attorneys appearing before Congress the same day, as though they were to blame in some way for doing their jobs with integrity, and doing them well… [I swear the actor Edward Arnold from Mr. Smith Goes to Washington was on the House Judiciary subcommittee questioning them - don’t know who that Republican Congressman is, but talk about type-casting.] As for the press corps at Tuesday’s press conference (perhaps Carol Leonnig and a few others excepted), EP’s word choice @ 156 above of “embarrassed” ought to apply to them, I think – I feel embarrassed for them, even knowing that many reporters (in large part due to the dictates of the editors and owners of their publications) have earned the contempt of the American public, but sadly, I doubt that many, if any, of them feel that same sense of embarrassment on their own behalf.
kairos in cal @
119
That tears it. I was so proud to have written so beautifully even though I hadn’t. :-)
In another lifetime far away, I listened for the screams of the tortured when I visited the compound of the Vietnamese secret police in Saigon. A week before an American major in the same room I occupied had asked his interpreter what the gawdawful screaming was next door.
“They are beating him with electricity,” said the major’s informant.
The secret police were attentive to the discomfort of American visitors. They moved the detention room across the compound.
Back in the states after discharge a year or two later, I took more punishment from an enraged JFK fan than a Viet Cong bomb when I told the fine gentleman the nomination of JFK would lead to a terrible war and defeat whether JFK or Nixon won the election.
Since that time it has gotten worse.
God bless those who are not confused as I have been all my life. I was not enchanted by the war protesters overall who were represented far more by Jane Fonda than Eugene McCarthy. Gene McCarthy was a true hero suffering a crueler fate than Ned Lamont. Little was more ironic than Bill Clinton eulogizing McCarthy. McCarthy thought Clinton should have been convicted of his impeachment as did I.
Hard to find the good people at times among the silent screams.
Best, Terry
OK, I’ll look for some Havel.
What about The Good Soldier Svejk by the Czech Hasek? I am looking for a good English translation. The WW1 tale is timeless and appropos to the current scene…from what I have heard, but I don’t read Czech.
We refer to The Chimp. Perhaps Hasek gives it better:
“There’s a freedom there which not even Socialists have ever dreamed of. . . . Everyone could say exactly what he pleased and what was on the tip of his tongue, just as if he was in parliament. . . No one would come to you and tell you: ‘You mustn’t do that, sir. It’s not decent. You should be ashamed of yourself. . . ’ As I say it was very pleasant there and those few days which I spent in the lunatic asylum are among the loveliest hours of my life.”
cbl @ 149
It was in one of the little boxes on the right, breaking news.
I’m up early, reading what I could not stay awake for last night. I’m halfway through TRex and jumped over here.
These threads, spurred by the insights of Marcy and TRex, are breathtaking.
pow wow @ 181:
You know, that’s something like what I thought you’d say, but you sure put it better. I have been heartsick at the abuse–and I think it is abuse–hurled at Patrick Fitzgerald the past few days. The Dana Milbank column on 3/6 was atrocious. Milbank or the WaPo has had it edited since, but the pettiness, the low-mindedness, was a perfect example of what about the pundits makes me heartsick.
This trial is, to use neoconservative parlance, also deeply “clarifying”. Strangely or not, it has become a political axis in this country.
On one end are those of us who correctly see Wilson and his wife as the administration did: dissenters who fatally undermined the edifice of lies and crimes on which the political consensus for invading Iraq was erected. On the other are those who support the continuation of the Iraq war at any cost and who are therefore desperately, angrily, slapdashedly trying to cement the crack with further lies, as the Washington Post did this morning with its proclamation that, “The Wilson-Plame case, and Mr. Libby’s conviction, tell us nothing about the war in Iraq.”
The start of something good? Well, let’s remember that:
1. Havel became president of Czechoslovakia
2. The Plastics continue to make music—admittedly with only two of the original members. (Apropos of nothing: Paul Wilson was/is an unofficial member of the band—he did translations for them. He also is, I believe, Havel’s preferred translator.)
Anyone interested in Czech lit. might like to take a look here:
http://books.guardian.co.uk/wo…..89,00.html