Then the Victoria Toensing OUTRAGEOUS WaPo op ed against the Wilsons….an attempt at jury tampering ….facilitated by a major newspaper. Shocking. Then I learned that she and her husband were involved in an old White House scandal – back to the Bush I days…..so it has been going on forever! (look up Craig Spence) or:

http://www.hereinreality.com/callboy.html

http://www.voxfux.com/features…..rchive.htm

Shocking. These ARE self-loathing people.

Obviously. Sad…as you say….. Sad. And DANGEROUS!

I fail to understand how any parent could ever consider (except unknowingly) sending a young boy off to become a White House page.

These are CRIMES!

With this administration, where does one even BEGIN? Mind boggling. Each day some new scandal. I was SHOCKED to hear David Gergen on CNN saying “this administration has until now been free of scandal….” WHAAAT???? Are you kidding me? Get Real!
I can rattle off ….say 50 or more….right off the top of my head!

Thanks for this, TRex

PLovering @ 160

http://www.iwf.org/articles/ar…..icleID=816

This interesting article discusses the
differences between gay and lesbian students surveyed before and after college. Gays held steady at 6%. Lesbians who registered to 11% while on campus, dropped to about 1% once out in the world. The term LUG is used to describe this common condition … lesbian until graduation. Only .8 of lesbians are rural lesbians.� Hardly worth mentioning.

Gays are born gay. Lesbians are not born lesbian. To equate the two as equal before the law is misleading … apples and oranges. Sorry. But one can’t change mother nature.

The Bush Cat House in DC can fairly be called a male sorority.

Response # 1

Puhleeze.

Sadly, scientific literacy is now rare in America.

Even by that sorry standard, the “discussion” above is woefully ignorant.

Poor experimental design tells us reams about credulity and scientific literacy (or lack thereof), but very little about sexual orientation.

[examples:

Self-reporting of controversial behaviors is notoriously inconsistent and subject to social pressure. Change in social circumstances tell us nothing about intrinsic biology.

Even this lousy data fails to support the hypothesis “Lesbians are not born lesbian”.

The cited data - flawed as it is - indicates self-identification as lesbian among 0.8% of rural women and 1.0% of post-collegiate women.

How a fairly invariant low rate of a behavior (6 % in males, 0.8 to 1.0 % in females) “proves” the behavior is biological in males and non-biological in females is not addressed above.

As the premise is inherently fallacious, this omission is understandable.]

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Response # 2

Maaaaahds!

The dismissive uninformed gender orientation comments are back!

Ewwwwwww!

Make them go away – please!

They don’t even know we are all equal before the law.

Puhleeez.

Before criticizing data, one must first learn to read the data correctly. The data reads that only .8% of all lesbians live rurally — and not that .8% of rural women are lesbian.

These data show that 6% of male college students self-identify as gays while in college and 6% after they leave college, while 11% of females self-identify lesbian in college but only 1% lesbian after they leave college.

These data suggest that gays are biologically hard-wired at birth while lesbians are not.

Somehow I confused the “independent” Fedeal Reserve with Federal Treasury. The Fed. Reserve does use margins to control money supply and thereby business activity. I was not aware of PPT ( @283) was a part of the Fed Reserve, having lived abroad for many years I haven’t kept as informed as I should. This PPT sounds just the antithisis of what the Fed Reserve tries to do. Wall Street is as you describe, if not worse (a number of which come to mind) and has attempted repeatedly to worm itself free of regulatory shackles. The Treasury is a politically controlled ediface in the executive administration. That this PPT is able to operate without close supervision to artifically influence Wall Street is asking for maladministration just as the SEC’s abandonment of regulatory functiion has so adequately demonstrated. It is an economic house of cards that will not survive. For Yanks, ignorance is bliss, an opiate, for the rest of the world, it is economic disaster just waiting to happen. Of the great disservices to “the dismal science” has been the right wing Chicago School of Economics that has lent “scholastic” credit to an economic fraud that has plagued the economies of the world and will do so until knowledge becomes widespread.

Thanks Sona for an enlightening conversation. I hope your travails re health are over and recovery is well in hand. All the best……

i don’t like to parrot the cliched adage that some of my best friends are gays except that happens to be true. K – whats going on in Aus? – the Iraq involvement is very unpopular but that has not been my strategic focus – its that do we have any national identity and take pride in whatever that’s supposed to be to forge our foreign policies to serve our strategic national interest? Australia is very confused and its media is crap. Peoples (i mean that, diverse peoples), however are not dumb. The hardest thing is to link to the wavelength of the none too extra ordinary person.

i was in the UK to vote Blair’s New Labour crap to oblivion last year – i still retain UK expatriate voting rights.

My line in Aus, and i’m aussie too, is they can do it and so can we – make democracy work and that requires a lot more thinking than compulsory voting.

I am really an economist, also an ex senior executive officer in the Australian Federal Public Service, now retired on medical grounds. I sympathise with Jane’s trials – I have gone through that with four relapses in six years and chemo isn’t fun though rad is far worse – surgery is merciful by comparison and i say this after three in six years.

i keep saying to people that the market rebound of late smacks of Fed intervention and more greenbacks worth only the paper and the ink – what price free market – and that the fall will happen just with a bigger impact than if they hadn’t tried to save the neocons right now. Not many understand it. It will get through one day.

Australin Labour Party (ALP) has similar problems to US Democratic Party – weaning them off the money/power drug. Unlike the UK Labour movement it does not have the powerful icons of William Blake and Australia is still ravaged by Churchill’s comment in 1944 that the Brits had to let go of Australia in the wake of the fall of Singapore, loss orf Burma and Japanese bombing of India and northern Australia.

I mention all this to explain where I am coming from and what I am trying to do. i apologise if i have bored you to death.

Hello – Nice to read you here. I am not in any way an economist but I noticed the main response to the big drop in Chinas market was blown off by Republicans just like this:

“They are communists over there; they can stop it.” The way in which it was said by our neo-authoritarians (like nearly everything else they say) bothered the heck out of me on several levels. It was almost in admiration of that kind of power. Of course nobody followed up with any questions to that remark. Intuitively I suspect your ink and paper statement has merit. I wish I knew a little more.

caio

Do you really think Waxman could force the likes of Libby, Rove and Cheney to show up?

What if they simply refuse to honor subpoenas?

That, in and of itself, would be a crime, and would give Waxman’s committee grounds to recommend impeachment of those who failed to appear.

It’s like pleading the 5th — failing to appear for the hearing means they’ve done something they don’t want to reveal.