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		<title>By: whig</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/07/whither-karl-and-dick/#comment-547417</link>
		<dc:creator>whig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Quail wings. Scooter talks, he knows what happened to Whittington.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quail wings. Scooter talks, he knows what happened to Whittington.</p>
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		<title>By: donny</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/07/whither-karl-and-dick/#comment-547343</link>
		<dc:creator>donny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very funny:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDaRFf7Cd6M&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDaRFf7Cd6M&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That juror asked the right question: where’s Karl?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very funny:  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDaRFf7Cd6M">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDaRFf7Cd6M</a></p>
<p>That juror asked the right question: where’s Karl?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/07/whither-karl-and-dick/#comment-546642</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-546194&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;portia.vz @&lt;br /&gt;
                90              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ack!  Here’s a creepy thought: Cheney resigns, Lieberman gets a promotion to VP.  After all, he’s an independent now, he could use that disgusting spin about working across the aisle and people will buy it just like they did in CT (remember, most people outside of CT *like* Lieberman).  Then Jodi Rell appoints a Republican to Joe’s seat and voile!, the GOP screws up the senate for the next 2 years as if nothing in 2006 ever happened.&lt;br /&gt;
There’s a strategy for ya’.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;About 6 months ago, I was pondering this scenario, but thought at the time that McCain would be the choice for new VEEP. McCain’s star is sinking, and Joe’s is rising among the Republican leadership– not the rank &amp; file, but I suspect Bush might find it convenient to use him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-546194"><em>portia.vz @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Ack!  Here’s a creepy thought: Cheney resigns, Lieberman gets a promotion to VP.  After all, he’s an independent now, he could use that disgusting spin about working across the aisle and people will buy it just like they did in CT (remember, most people outside of CT *like* Lieberman).  Then Jodi Rell appoints a Republican to Joe’s seat and voile!, the GOP screws up the senate for the next 2 years as if nothing in 2006 ever happened.<br />
There’s a strategy for ya’.</p>
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<p>About 6 months ago, I was pondering this scenario, but thought at the time that McCain would be the choice for new VEEP. McCain’s star is sinking, and Joe’s is rising among the Republican leadership– not the rank &amp; file, but I suspect Bush might find it convenient to use him.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/07/whither-karl-and-dick/#comment-546635</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-546187&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mark @&lt;br /&gt;
                83              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Does anyone else have a funny feeling we might have been had? I started yesterday afternoon on a high from the conviction that slowly descended into vague questioning that something doesn’t feel right.&lt;br /&gt;
Fitz spent 4 years interviewing everyone involved, some multiple times. We are led to believe even assume that given Fitz’s superman-like reputation that the evidence to go to trial could only be marshalled against Libby. The complicit media is a footnote. The rest of the culprits exonerated. Congress so far and most likely will not accept the challenge by Fitz to request the evidence and pursue the investigation.&lt;br /&gt;
In essence it is all buried. Most likely Libby will be pardoned. Does anyone else have the a gnawing sense that maybe we have been had?&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, I admit, sometimes I am a cynic.&lt;br /&gt;
SoCal &#124; 03.07.07 - 2:17 pm &#124; #&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m a bit bugged by this, too. My best sense of this is that Fitz is being very cautious in handing down indictments on major figures. I think he knows a great deal about Cheney– but doesn’t have a lockdown case. He needs Libby to flip. Or he needs some help from a congressional investigating committee that has the power to subpoena Cheney. Please notice that Fitz said his investigation was “inactive,” not finished, and he said that no further indictments were planned(?)– I don’t remember the exact wording, but his words were chosen with care. In other words, I think he feels stymied.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are still the mysteries of Sealed vs. Sealed, and Fitz’s letter to Rove (the so-called exoneration), which has still not been made public. These are slender reeds on which to lean, but I got the distinct feeling while watching Fitz’s press conference that he needed help from Congress, or from Libby flipping, before he felt able to prosecute anyone further. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why couldn’t he just start out by indicting Rove and Armitage? They may have fessed up, but what they did was still illegal, and putting them on the dock could shake loose a few more leaves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-546187"><em>Mark @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Does anyone else have a funny feeling we might have been had? I started yesterday afternoon on a high from the conviction that slowly descended into vague questioning that something doesn’t feel right.<br />
Fitz spent 4 years interviewing everyone involved, some multiple times. We are led to believe even assume that given Fitz’s superman-like reputation that the evidence to go to trial could only be marshalled against Libby. The complicit media is a footnote. The rest of the culprits exonerated. Congress so far and most likely will not accept the challenge by Fitz to request the evidence and pursue the investigation.<br />
In essence it is all buried. Most likely Libby will be pardoned. Does anyone else have the a gnawing sense that maybe we have been had?<br />
Okay, I admit, sometimes I am a cynic.<br />
SoCal | 03.07.07 &#8211; 2:17 pm | #</p>
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<p>I’m a bit bugged by this, too. My best sense of this is that Fitz is being very cautious in handing down indictments on major figures. I think he knows a great deal about Cheney– but doesn’t have a lockdown case. He needs Libby to flip. Or he needs some help from a congressional investigating committee that has the power to subpoena Cheney. Please notice that Fitz said his investigation was “inactive,” not finished, and he said that no further indictments were planned(?)– I don’t remember the exact wording, but his words were chosen with care. In other words, I think he feels stymied.</p>
<p>There are still the mysteries of Sealed vs. Sealed, and Fitz’s letter to Rove (the so-called exoneration), which has still not been made public. These are slender reeds on which to lean, but I got the distinct feeling while watching Fitz’s press conference that he needed help from Congress, or from Libby flipping, before he felt able to prosecute anyone further. </p>
<p>Why couldn’t he just start out by indicting Rove and Armitage? They may have fessed up, but what they did was still illegal, and putting them on the dock could shake loose a few more leaves.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 23:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/06/AR2007030602865.html&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....02865.html&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Karen Hughs and Hadassah Lieberman reported lunching together at the Four Season in the above link…and Hadassah has her arm in a cast.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Too much arm twisting to be switch parties?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/06/AR2007030602865.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/&#8230;..02865.html</a> </p>
<p>Karen Hughs and Hadassah Lieberman reported lunching together at the Four Season in the above link…and Hadassah has her arm in a cast.</p>
<p>Too much arm twisting to be switch parties?</p>
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		<title>By: my too sense</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/07/whither-karl-and-dick/#comment-546414</link>
		<dc:creator>my too sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know that this thread is in epuland…but speaking of WaPo and its Faux news truthiness editorial pages. Wilson had a response on one of the shows he was on last nite that was perfect.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; If the WaPo editorial page authors/writers can’t be bothered to read what the news side of the paper has written in the paper in regards to all things factually correct about Plame and Nigergate (and that clearly dispute the editorial pages) then why should he.(bother reading it either)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that this thread is in epuland…but speaking of WaPo and its Faux news truthiness editorial pages. Wilson had a response on one of the shows he was on last nite that was perfect.</p>
<p> If the WaPo editorial page authors/writers can’t be bothered to read what the news side of the paper has written in the paper in regards to all things factually correct about Plame and Nigergate (and that clearly dispute the editorial pages) then why should he.(bother reading it either)</p>
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		<title>By: kathleen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/07/whither-karl-and-dick/#comment-546406</link>
		<dc:creator>kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-546288&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;john in sacramento @ 172 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-546236&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @&lt;br /&gt;
                129              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Becca 122&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7681&quot;&gt;http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7681&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I really have a sneaking suspicion that the “accidental” shooting of Nicolo Calipari was a part of this whole story - the Italian yellowcake forgeries and all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And he was shot by a US official’s bodyguards - can’t remember which official right now&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Yes get rid of anyone who can talk&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-546288"><em>john in sacramento @ 172 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-546236"><em>LS @<br />
                129              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Becca 122</p>
<p><a href="http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7681">http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7681</a></p>
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<p>I really have a sneaking suspicion that the “accidental” shooting of Nicolo Calipari was a part of this whole story &#8211; the Italian yellowcake forgeries and all.</p>
<p>And he was shot by a US official’s bodyguards &#8211; can’t remember which official right now</p>
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<p> Yes get rid of anyone who can talk</p>
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		<title>By: melfeasance</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/07/whither-karl-and-dick/#comment-546389</link>
		<dc:creator>melfeasance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;see the tiny &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/50202597@N00/414003826/&quot;&gt;turdblossom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see the tiny <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/50202597@N00/414003826/">turdblossom</a></p>
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		<title>By: anwaya</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/07/whither-karl-and-dick/#comment-546383</link>
		<dc:creator>anwaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Quail wings? Have they no sense of history, or hubris? Can they be so brazenly decadent?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quail wings? Have they no sense of history, or hubris? Can they be so brazenly decadent?</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/07/whither-karl-and-dick/#comment-546322</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-546286&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;AZ Matt @&lt;br /&gt;
                170              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-546271&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Phoenix Woman @ 159&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;AZ Matt:  Got links to the Froomkin pieces?  Thanks!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile, for you artist types, &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com/images?q=dogs begging&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;um=1&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=wi&quot;&gt;here’s what you get when you Google “dogs begging”.&lt;/a&gt;  Photoshop ahoy!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;White House Watch:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00879.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Today’s Chat:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/03/06/DI2007030601347.html&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01347.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-546286"><em>AZ Matt @<br />
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-546271"><em>Phoenix Woman @ 159</em></a><br />
<i>AZ Matt:  Got links to the Froomkin pieces?  Thanks!</i></p>
<p>Meanwhile, for you artist types, <a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=dogs begging&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;um=1&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=wi">here’s what you get when you Google “dogs begging”.</a>  Photoshop ahoy!</p>
<p>White House Watch:<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/&#8230;..00879.html</a></p>
<p>Today’s Chat:<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/03/06/DI2007030601347.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/&#8230;..01347.html</a></p>
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<p>Thanks!</p>
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