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		<title>By: 1 Boring Old Man &#187; the Juror&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/verdict-from-the-courtroom/#comment-545092</link>
		<dc:creator>1 Boring Old Man &#187; the Juror&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[…] On her own blog, Jane Hamsher said, &quot; It’s a good day to be an American, huh?&quot; Well put. Myself, I’m a little speechless. I’m not sure what I feel, except relieved that I’m not feeling what I’d feel if the decision had gone the other way - an emotion that I’ve come to call the election night 2004 feeling, because I’ve only felt it once in my life. Mostly, I wonder what the people who elected President Bush and opened the door for this cadre of neoconservatives are feeling about all of this. They didn’t pore over the minute to minute testimony in the trial from emptywheel’s daily live-blog. The haven’t read Libby’s notes, or seen the annotations on the newspaper articles, or parsed the timeline of leak week. They don’t know first-hand the levels of deceit, deviousness, and vengfulness that was presented as fact in this trial. All they know is the verdict. I hope in the days that follow, the Media finally puts this information on the front page for everyone to deal with. &quot;News&quot; is literally what is new. For most of us Plame junkies, this is a very old story. For most Americans, it’s brand new. […]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] On her own blog, Jane Hamsher said, &quot; It’s a good day to be an American, huh?&quot; Well put. Myself, I’m a little speechless. I’m not sure what I feel, except relieved that I’m not feeling what I’d feel if the decision had gone the other way &#8211; an emotion that I’ve come to call the election night 2004 feeling, because I’ve only felt it once in my life. Mostly, I wonder what the people who elected President Bush and opened the door for this cadre of neoconservatives are feeling about all of this. They didn’t pore over the minute to minute testimony in the trial from emptywheel’s daily live-blog. The haven’t read Libby’s notes, or seen the annotations on the newspaper articles, or parsed the timeline of leak week. They don’t know first-hand the levels of deceit, deviousness, and vengfulness that was presented as fact in this trial. All they know is the verdict. I hope in the days that follow, the Media finally puts this information on the front page for everyone to deal with. &quot;News&quot; is literally what is new. For most of us Plame junkies, this is a very old story. For most Americans, it’s brand new. […]</p>
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		<title>By: scrooge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/verdict-from-the-courtroom/#comment-544990</link>
		<dc:creator>scrooge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;perjury&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: jimbo92107</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/verdict-from-the-courtroom/#comment-544795</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbo92107</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Congrats to the FDL crew. Good job on all aspects, especially perserverance. One small note: “daubed” means to deposit something quickly on a surface, like paint. I think the word you wanted was “dabbed,” as with a hankerchief.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am curious about Libby’s immediate disposition. Will he now be remanded to custody, or is he temporarily free pending sentencing? It is imperative that these neocon thugs spend as much time as possible in cages, so I hope Libby’s term begins promptly. This man committed purjury to protect people who committed grievous acts of treason.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats to the FDL crew. Good job on all aspects, especially perserverance. One small note: “daubed” means to deposit something quickly on a surface, like paint. I think the word you wanted was “dabbed,” as with a hankerchief.</p>
<p>I am curious about Libby’s immediate disposition. Will he now be remanded to custody, or is he temporarily free pending sentencing? It is imperative that these neocon thugs spend as much time as possible in cages, so I hope Libby’s term begins promptly. This man committed purjury to protect people who committed grievous acts of treason.</p>
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		<title>By: scrooge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/verdict-from-the-courtroom/#comment-544753</link>
		<dc:creator>scrooge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You’ve got to be kidding! This is *not* a good day to be an American. When Nixon was impeached, I didn’t feel proud to be an American because justice was served, I was ashamed that he was elected twice. I am ashamed today that we have only managed to prosecute a chief of staff. Even if Bush and Cheney were to be impeached, it would not be a great day for Americans. Our system, corrupt and corrupting, ruled by corporate interests that we the people support in our media-lulled mindlessness, brought them to power.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’ve got to be kidding! This is *not* a good day to be an American. When Nixon was impeached, I didn’t feel proud to be an American because justice was served, I was ashamed that he was elected twice. I am ashamed today that we have only managed to prosecute a chief of staff. Even if Bush and Cheney were to be impeached, it would not be a great day for Americans. Our system, corrupt and corrupting, ruled by corporate interests that we the people support in our media-lulled mindlessness, brought them to power.</p>
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		<title>By: Educated Plaintiff</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/verdict-from-the-courtroom/#comment-544122</link>
		<dc:creator>Educated Plaintiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;bdu - thank you very much for tvoing &amp; transcribing fitzgerald’s statements on the courthouse steps.  very important that you got that onto the record here in its entirety.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;again - thank you very much for all you do behind the scenes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;best ~&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bdu &#8211; thank you very much for tvoing &amp; transcribing fitzgerald’s statements on the courthouse steps.  very important that you got that onto the record here in its entirety.</p>
<p>again &#8211; thank you very much for all you do behind the scenes.</p>
<p>best ~</p>
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		<title>By: cando</title>
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		<dc:creator>cando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane, I’ve had one of my busiest days and just checked in.  Boy, FDL et al did great and I am so proud of you and Fitz.  And John, I would bet that things are not well.  They have barely looked at each other as they’ve entered (on TV) over the past months.  Tell me, who would want to be emotionally close to Scooter!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, I’ve had one of my busiest days and just checked in.  Boy, FDL et al did great and I am so proud of you and Fitz.  And John, I would bet that things are not well.  They have barely looked at each other as they’ve entered (on TV) over the past months.  Tell me, who would want to be emotionally close to Scooter!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting, your observation that Mrs. Libby hugged all the members of the defense team, but did not touch or make eye contact with her husband after the verdict.  I noticed in the video of Mr. and Mrs. Libby and their lawyers arriving at the courthouse, that Mr. Libby, who got out of the back seat of the car, stood by the door as several women got out (I’m assuming one was his wife) but did not offer any assistance or make any physical contact.  Are things not well between Mr. and Mrs. Libby?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, your observation that Mrs. Libby hugged all the members of the defense team, but did not touch or make eye contact with her husband after the verdict.  I noticed in the video of Mr. and Mrs. Libby and their lawyers arriving at the courthouse, that Mr. Libby, who got out of the back seat of the car, stood by the door as several women got out (I’m assuming one was his wife) but did not offer any assistance or make any physical contact.  Are things not well between Mr. and Mrs. Libby?</p>
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		<title>By: Guitar_Playing_Bastard</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/verdict-from-the-courtroom/#comment-543635</link>
		<dc:creator>Guitar_Playing_Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have to admit, I’m going to miss reading marcy’s blog and seeing Jane, Marcy and Christy on Politics TV. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Reading them was quite eye opening and I enjoyed it immensely. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is STILL better than the Niners winning the Super Bowl.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, I’m going to miss reading marcy’s blog and seeing Jane, Marcy and Christy on Politics TV. </p>
<p>Reading them was quite eye opening and I enjoyed it immensely. </p>
<p>This is STILL better than the Niners winning the Super Bowl.</p>
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		<title>By: bdu</title>
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		<dc:creator>bdu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;17th q:&lt;br /&gt;
So this case and your investigation doesn’t necessarily become a paradigm for future investigations? Or do you think it will encourage others given the success you’ve had here?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fitz:&lt;br /&gt;
I think people can look to any case for developments, but I think there’s a danger reading too much into it. I think people ought to look at the law, look at the facts, and then I think you have to be careful applying them to other cases, so… if it’s made clear what the circumstances were in this case I think other people will look to this case, people ought to look at it for what it is. A particular set of facts where reporters were eyewitnesses to a potential crime and reporters, if they did not testify, we could never get to the bottom of the questions here. And THAT’s what was key. If we did not question reporters, we could not answer the question of whether or not a lie was told, and in fact, talking to reporters proved a lie. And that’s a very unusual circumstance so I would just caution people to do it in context.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you very much. (end of Fitz statements/questions)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>17th q:<br />
So this case and your investigation doesn’t necessarily become a paradigm for future investigations? Or do you think it will encourage others given the success you’ve had here?</p>
<p>Fitz:<br />
I think people can look to any case for developments, but I think there’s a danger reading too much into it. I think people ought to look at the law, look at the facts, and then I think you have to be careful applying them to other cases, so… if it’s made clear what the circumstances were in this case I think other people will look to this case, people ought to look at it for what it is. A particular set of facts where reporters were eyewitnesses to a potential crime and reporters, if they did not testify, we could never get to the bottom of the questions here. And THAT’s what was key. If we did not question reporters, we could not answer the question of whether or not a lie was told, and in fact, talking to reporters proved a lie. And that’s a very unusual circumstance so I would just caution people to do it in context.</p>
<p>Thank you very much. (end of Fitz statements/questions)</p>
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		<title>By: bdu</title>
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		<dc:creator>bdu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;16th q:&lt;br /&gt;
Was there clear evidence at the trial that the information about her was indeed classified?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fitz:&lt;br /&gt;
The trial evidence, the judge made a ruling that we were not going to try the case abt whether the information was classfied. I can tell you that on the face of the indictment, it states that her relationship with the CIA was classified, and I have 100% confidence in that information. We would not put it in the indictment. We didn’t make it an issue at the trial because the issue was whether or not Libby perjured himself under oath. There’s no doubt that her relationship with the CIA was classified, and that’s just a fact.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>16th q:<br />
Was there clear evidence at the trial that the information about her was indeed classified?</p>
<p>Fitz:<br />
The trial evidence, the judge made a ruling that we were not going to try the case abt whether the information was classfied. I can tell you that on the face of the indictment, it states that her relationship with the CIA was classified, and I have 100% confidence in that information. We would not put it in the indictment. We didn’t make it an issue at the trial because the issue was whether or not Libby perjured himself under oath. There’s no doubt that her relationship with the CIA was classified, and that’s just a fact.</p>
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