Comments on: More http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:19:58 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: TeresaPChicago http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-544161 TeresaPChicago Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:24:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-544161 <p>I just arrived home from the school where I worked tday in total isolation from any news reports except for the instant my cell phone message light began blinking at the time the verdict was announced. What an amazing moment in history. And now I have rushed home to read the blog. Thank you so much to Jane Marcy, Swopa, Christy, TRex, LHP and anyone else at FDL I may be forgetting in my delirium at the moment. I had never been to a blog before this trial but pressing the pay button last week was the best most gratifying thing I have done for the First Ammendment in a very long time. It has been an education that I credit also to the brilliant people who comment (and I can assure you I am not one of them) especially Rayne, Mason, EvilDrPurma, Ed*ardTellar, Suzanne and Litigatormom. Thank you and my cat thanks you!!!!!!</p> I just arrived home from the school where I worked tday in total isolation from any news reports except for the instant my cell phone message light began blinking at the time the verdict was announced. What an amazing moment in history. And now I have rushed home to read the blog. Thank you so much to Jane Marcy, Swopa, Christy, TRex, LHP and anyone else at FDL I may be forgetting in my delirium at the moment. I had never been to a blog before this trial but pressing the pay button last week was the best most gratifying thing I have done for the First Ammendment in a very long time. It has been an education that I credit also to the brilliant people who comment (and I can assure you I am not one of them) especially Rayne, Mason, EvilDrPurma, Ed*ardTellar, Suzanne and Litigatormom. Thank you and my cat thanks you!!!!!!

]]> By: dab_from_ct http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543983 dab_from_ct Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:19:42 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543983 <p><b>JGabriel at 193 - Below is info about the “Marcy” event:</b></p> <p>Saturday, March 10th - 6-9pm<br /> The Tank @ C:U - 279 Church Street </p> <p>$50 - YearlyKos Suggested Donation<br /> $100 - YearlyKos Fundraiser Host<br /> (Hosts will receive recognition in invitations and complimentary copies of “Anatomy of Deceit.”) </p> <p>Hosted by Living Liberally with Vaster Books, Young People For (YP4), The Albany Project, and the Kossack community of New York City. </p> <p>Free food, cheap drinks, great gifts, lively conversation and progressive camaraderie with special guests Marcy Wheeler (emptywheel), author of “Anatomy of Deceit” and Libby Trial blogger, the comedians of Laughing Liberally, the sweet eats of Eating Liberally, fellow Kossacks, bloggers and rabble-rousers. </p> <p>And to support our Liberally friends, mark your calendar for the launch of their massive empire. Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away…SAVE THE DATE! </p> <p>The Living Liberally Launch Party:<br /> A Fundraiser for Drinking, Laughing, Screening, Eating, Reading & All Things Liberally<br /> Saturday, April 21st<br /> 349 West 12th Street between Greenwich and Washington Streets<br /> Email <a href="mailto:mary@livingliberally.org">mary@livingliberally.org</a> for more information.</p> JGabriel at 193 – Below is info about the “Marcy” event:

Saturday, March 10th – 6-9pm
The Tank @ C:U – 279 Church Street

$50 – YearlyKos Suggested Donation
$100 – YearlyKos Fundraiser Host
(Hosts will receive recognition in invitations and complimentary copies of “Anatomy of Deceit.”)

Hosted by Living Liberally with Vaster Books, Young People For (YP4), The Albany Project, and the Kossack community of New York City.

Free food, cheap drinks, great gifts, lively conversation and progressive camaraderie with special guests Marcy Wheeler (emptywheel), author of “Anatomy of Deceit” and Libby Trial blogger, the comedians of Laughing Liberally, the sweet eats of Eating Liberally, fellow Kossacks, bloggers and rabble-rousers.

And to support our Liberally friends, mark your calendar for the launch of their massive empire. Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away…SAVE THE DATE!

The Living Liberally Launch Party:
A Fundraiser for Drinking, Laughing, Screening, Eating, Reading & All Things Liberally
Saturday, April 21st
349 West 12th Street between Greenwich and Washington Streets
Email mary@livingliberally.org for more information.

]]> By: powwow500 http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543894 powwow500 Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:51:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543894 <p>Irony of ironies. I heard the news of the conviction (yes!) on the stupid Limbaugh radio show while I was driving around doing errands. At first it wasn’t clear what he was talking about, but then I figured out that Libby was convicted. Of course Rush the Idiot said a lot of mumbo jumbo. </p> <p>Couldn’t wait to get home and log on to FDL. You folks have done a superlative job! I can’t thank you enough. Though you have screwed up my work schedule beyond repair, due to constant refreshing.</p> Irony of ironies. I heard the news of the conviction (yes!) on the stupid Limbaugh radio show while I was driving around doing errands. At first it wasn’t clear what he was talking about, but then I figured out that Libby was convicted. Of course Rush the Idiot said a lot of mumbo jumbo.

Couldn’t wait to get home and log on to FDL. You folks have done a superlative job! I can’t thank you enough. Though you have screwed up my work schedule beyond repair, due to constant refreshing.

]]> By: David Ehrenstein http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543886 David Ehrenstein Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:46:51 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543886 <blockquote><p>LDF Commenter #48 has the Ann Coulter Disease, i.e. Fitz is Gay:</p> <p>“BTW, I have my theories about what motivates Fitzgerald. Andrew Sullivan Syndrome. A 45 year old Catholic American of Irish ancestry man with decent looks and a good job, who has never married?” </p></blockquote> <p><b>BACK OFF QUEEN — I SAW HIM FIRST!!!</b></p>

LDF Commenter #48 has the Ann Coulter Disease, i.e. Fitz is Gay:

“BTW, I have my theories about what motivates Fitzgerald. Andrew Sullivan Syndrome. A 45 year old Catholic American of Irish ancestry man with decent looks and a good job, who has never married?”

BACK OFF QUEEN — I SAW HIM FIRST!!!

]]> By: mc http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543877 mc Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:44:17 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543877 <p>Thank you, Marcy. Extraordinary work. You probably don’t want to give up your “day job” but you would be a wonderful addition to Jane and Christy as a FDL regular.</p> Thank you, Marcy. Extraordinary work. You probably don’t want to give up your “day job” but you would be a wonderful addition to Jane and Christy as a FDL regular.

]]> By: theExile http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543866 theExile Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:39:15 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543866 <p><a href="mailto:T.O.@218">T.O.@218</a></p> <blockquote><p>I wonder if Bush would really kick Cheney out. Cheney has the goods that could take Bush down.</p></blockquote> <p>Cheney has to be taken down before he takes the rest of the world down!</p> T.O.@218

I wonder if Bush would really kick Cheney out. Cheney has the goods that could take Bush down.

Cheney has to be taken down before he takes the rest of the world down!

]]> By: jayackroyd http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543859 jayackroyd Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:36:34 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543859 <p>Dammit. </p> <p><a href="http://www.yearlykosconvention.org/node/62">Details</a></p> Dammit.

Details

]]> By: jayackroyd http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543856 jayackroyd Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:35:52 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543856 <p>jgabriel:<br /> <i>Marcy’s in NYC on Saturday?</i></p> <p>What time and where? </p> <p>The Tank on Church Street. 6-9pm</p> <p><a>Details</a><br /> It’s a YKos fundraiser. I’ll be there, and Raginggurrl is bringing her video camera.</p> jgabriel:
Marcy’s in NYC on Saturday?

What time and where?

The Tank on Church Street. 6-9pm

Details
It’s a YKos fundraiser. I’ll be there, and Raginggurrl is bringing her video camera.

]]> By: Terry Olson http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543846 Terry Olson Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:31:45 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543846 <p>I wonder if Bush would really kick Cheney out. Cheney has the goods that could take Bush down.</p> I wonder if Bush would really kick Cheney out. Cheney has the goods that could take Bush down.

]]> By: jayackroyd http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543822 jayackroyd Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:24:34 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/more/#comment-543822 <p><i>Maybe I’m just being naive, but I didn’t interpret the juror’s comments about there being sympathy for Libby meaning that the jury came close to jury nullification.</i></p> <p>I don’t interpret those remarks that way either. But it was pretty clearly the only defense strategy that had any effect on the jury. The fact that they were sympathetic to Libby and thought that “this sucks” means that the best shot the defense had was painting libby as a scapegoat.</p> <p>What also came across in Collins’ comments is what a fine job Walton had done at conveying the boundaries they were to operate within, and their adherence to those boundaries.</p> <p>And that also illustrated something that I think is underappreciated. This system actually works pretty darn well. The jury was given a narrow scope and they adhered to that scope.</p> Maybe I’m just being naive, but I didn’t interpret the juror’s comments about there being sympathy for Libby meaning that the jury came close to jury nullification.

I don’t interpret those remarks that way either. But it was pretty clearly the only defense strategy that had any effect on the jury. The fact that they were sympathetic to Libby and thought that “this sucks” means that the best shot the defense had was painting libby as a scapegoat.

What also came across in Collins’ comments is what a fine job Walton had done at conveying the boundaries they were to operate within, and their adherence to those boundaries.

And that also illustrated something that I think is underappreciated. This system actually works pretty darn well. The jury was given a narrow scope and they adhered to that scope.

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