
(A Houma Indian blow gun and poison-tipped darts.)
Good evening, my fine Firedog friends. Tonight I hope to impart to you a valuable skill that will serve you for the rest of your life. It is an ancient practice that I was taught at my fire-breathing liberal mother's knee. The angry letter is a staple of activism, whether it's to a newspaper, an elected official, or even to the airline that lost your luggage. It is something every cantankerous liberal should know how to do. It can make you a more effective media critic and in some cases can even help you actually get what you want from the person or entity to whom you are writing.
An angry letter, when properly executed, is a thing of beauty. It is a perfect poison dart to the neck of your enemy, flying swift and true to the mark, penetrating the skin, and spreading paralytic poisons throughout your quarry's system. Sound good?
Let's get started!
You will need:
1. A computer.
2. A printer with paper.
3. An envelope.
4. A stamp.
Now, angry emails can be a beautiful thing. I've got nothing against them. They are the one-night-stand of complaints. They are typically brief and satisfying and require no real level of commitment. However, this makes them all the more easy to disregard by editors, reporters, politicians, and ex-lovers. To really, really show that you mean business, nothing works quite so well as an actual letter on paper that you took the time to seal, stamp, and mail. I have also found that paper letters are much, much more likely to elicit a personal response from the addressee.
Step One: Keep it Short
This is the alpha and omega of the angry letter. No one is going to read your eleven page Unabomber-style manifesto. The poor souls you forced to look it over before you sent it were just being polite to you when they handed it back saying, "Uh, it's fine!"
It's not fine. It's too damn long. An editor, ombudsman, or congressional aide is going to open it and see the rows and rows of tightly-packed print and immediately wad it up and toss it in the garbage. No one has time for all the meandering digressions of your rant. This is not a blog post. The addressee didn't come to you to ask what you think. You have come to them in the middle of their busy day of scarfing cocktail weenies, sipping Kool-Aid, and having two hour breakfasts at tony DC hotels. You've got under three minutes to make your case, so make it good.
1. No more than four paragraphs.
2. No more than twelve sentences.
This is crucial. When I say no more than twelve sentences, I don't mean fourteen. I mean twelve or fewer. The tighter and more compact you can make your beautiful poison dart, the further it will fly and the deeper its poisoned tip will bite into the skin.
Step Two: Don't Swear
Again, this letter is not a blog post. The more intelligent and authoritative you can be in your delivery, the greater your credibility will be with the addressee. If you are a 58-year-old grandmother of two, it helps to include this information. You are merely a concerned citizen who is speaking up in the name of decency, integrity, and Everything that Makes this Country of Ours Great. (See Step Three, "The Moral High Ground")
So, remember, you're not angry. At least, not on paper. Even if your hands are visibly shaking with rage as you type, your prose should be as calm and imperturbable as a glacial lake. You can be appalled, shocked, disgusted, disappointed, saddened, and embarrassed for the author, but the one thing you are not is angry. Starting with a tone of 90-decibel rage is only going to make your reader defensive and angry themselves. So, start calmly and coolly. That way if you must pour on the boiling oil in the last paragraph or two, you've left yourself some room for that.
Step Three: Assume the Moral High Ground and Do Not Let Go
This is one of the most important aspects of an angry letter. As much as every person would like to believe that they are an adult, fully capable of reasoning and making decisions for themselves, everybody on this earth has a momma and a daddy, which means that everybody at some point has been soundly scolded by someone. The key to successfully assuming the moral high ground is to take this tone with your addressee from the outset and cue up their frightened, "Oh, shit! I'm in trouble!" instinct before they have the time to think better of it.
To this end, one should write as if you are doing your duty to the addressee by snatching them up by the scruff of their neck and setting them straight. You are saving them from future embarrassment and error. You are doing it For Their Own Good. This is where phrases your parents used on you can come in very handy, "I'm not angry with you, I'm just very, very disappointed" or "It grieves me to have to point this out to you, but I thought it best for your reputation and career that I do it rather than someone who really, really hates you."
The person to whom you are writing has failed in some way. The purpose of your letter is to address this failure and make certain that the recipient will think twice before making this kind of error again.
Step Four (Advanced): Be Manipulative
As much as you are comfortable doing so, play head games with your opponent. You are writing as a sort of friend, a concerned member of the public who wants to save your addressee future embarrassment, both personal and professional. An openly angry letter can be dismissed out of hand, but a letter that whispers persuasively to a person about their own fears and feelings of inadequacy can keep them awake at night for years to come. Yay!
Most Americans define themselves through their jobs. So, ask yourself what this person's fears about their job are likely to be. Are they afraid of being a laughingstock among their colleagues? Are they afraid of damaging their movement as a whole? Are they afraid of being outmoded and left behind by new generations of writers and thinkers? Or conversely, are they just a beginner who is frightened of making mistakes that will keep them out of the big leagues forever? As much as you can ascertain these things, make use of them in your letter.
Use words like "unprofessional", "sub-standard", "unacceptable", "sophomoric", and "amateurish". Avoid words of screaming condemnation as much as you can, like "cowardly", "lying", "despicable", and the like. You are attacking the person's stance, not the person.
However, words that convey a value-judgement about their job performance like "tawdry", "shallow", "meretricious", and "disingenuous" are all good. Just make sure that you're making a distinction between the person and their position. Telling a person that they're a scum-sucking, worthless waste of good protein whose highest ambition in life should be to become good compost may make you feel better, but it will do nothing to change that person's performance.
Remember, this is an advanced step. If you feel it is beyond your ken, despair not, gentle reader. Merely state your case plainly and authoritatively and everything will be just fine.
Finally, a couple of minor stylistic points. It's best not to begin your letter with "I", as in, "Dear Mr. Russert, I am writing to you because blah de blah diddy-blah…". A wise grammarian once told me that formal letters never begin with "I". Of course, this is one of those things like the serial comma by which grammar geeks like me swear and other normal people disdain as an infringement on their personal writing style.
I just think it's best to start your letter with the facts of the matter, as in:
Dear Mr. Russert-
On Sunday, March 4th on your show "Meet the Press", you allowed Right Wing author and columnist George F. Will to state several blatant falsehoods uncontested. As a concerned viewer, I feel that it is my duty to point out to you that letting this kind of misleading information stand as fact on your program reflects badly on television journalism in general and upon you in particular.
I am aware of the doubts cast on your objectivity and professionalism by revelations brought forth in the Libby trial. I trust that you are doing everything in your power to push back against the resulting perception of you as a ventriloquist's dummy for the White House. It would be a shame to see your entire career as a journalist become a footnote to Mary Matalin's characterization of you as an easy mark for the Bush administration's talking points.
Good luck.
Best,
T. Rex, Esq.
Athens, GA
See how simple that is, and yet manages to call into question Russert's entire reason for being? Sometimes, you can accomplish a lot more by speaking in a low, reasonable tone than by writing, "Dear Mr. Russert, Yo, Pumpkinhead! What the FUCK are you THINKING?!, etc."
Also, spell-check rigorously. Then spell-check again. Nothing says, "Hi, I'm an ignorant rube!" quite like mixing up there, their, and they're, or to, too, and two, and so forth. Don't use words that you aren't intimately familiar with, and be on your guard against dropping too many "impressive" vocabulary words where simpler, clearer language would do. Nothing shoots your argument in the foot quite like poor spelling, bad grammar, and malapropism.
Any questions?
Now, take this advice and practice overnight and in the next few days, I will be offering up some targets for you to try out your new skills on, hopefully something to do with getting Ann Coulter's column dropped by some major papers. Come on! It'll be fun!
PACHACUTEC SAYS: If you'd like to get a head start, you can try writing to Harry Reid about this.
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Fitz!
second fitz!
TRex !!
Trex! Oh! Lotsa folks will be squirming from the forces you unleash tonight! Light the Night!
Thanks so much for the info, TRex. That is a beautiful screed, and I shall take your excellent advice.
Teddy,
How’s things in the City by the Bay?
I guess Representative Wilson must have known about these rules when placing teh Telephone Call to Iglesias:
You are writing as a sort of friend, a concerned member of the public who wants to save your addressee future embarrassment, both personal and professional.
It was just, you know, to “help” him.
bg @ 7
You do a beautiful job of framing the issue in a helpful, positive way. No doubt the recipient will see the error of their ways and reform post-haste.
Thanks for the lesson, I need this education.
I think it might be ventriloquist.
TRex, I’m saving these wonderful guidelines. But I do send faxes instead of letters. Mostly because, with all the security checks, letters are delayed anywhere from four to eight weeks. When I’m not happy with one of those critters I want them to know it right now.
You said to spell check, but ‘ventriloquist’ is spelled ‘ventilOquist’…
Well-written piece on the whole though.
*Sigh* Why do I want to move to Athens, GA?
Trex,
Based on your point –
The person you are writing to has failed in some way. The purpose of your letter is to address this failure and make certain that the recipient will think twice before making this kind of error again.
,
we will be writing letters to every Republican politician in Washington asking them to commit hari-kari to atone for their misdeeds.
You know? It’s like taking cues from the Brits and their quiet, understated and entirely dry style of insulting one. Courtly manners that still exist to this day. Professional sounding, not quite ‘angry’ feeling, but the point is always delivered in a calm and collected voice. (which always made me wonder at the tradition of Parliament’s shouting matches…*grins*)
Which is usually more devastating than shouted insults peppered with as many swear words that can be found. *grins* I’ll keep that in mind i get to writing a letter or three of my own.
Thanks TRex!
Hey TRex – yes – do not start the letter with “I” Start it with “you” That’ll get his attention.
And I’ve got lesson two in the pipeline if you’re up to it, FirePups.
Democracy for American launches Spring Semester of Night School tomorrow evening; the course will snuggle up nicely to Professor TRex’s course this evening here on FireDogLake’s virtual campus.
Holding Elected Leaders Accountable
March 6th – 8:30pm Eastern
RSVP today: http://www.dfalink.com/event.php?id=18353
And now off to bed, been up too late all week and it’s catching up with me. Have fun with those short and not-so-sweet letters!!
(p.s. TRex, wherever do you buy your poison pens? Heh.)
Well said, Trex. Will Strunk could not have done better.
Dayam, TRex, that Russert letter is a thang of beauty.
Every week I shorten my letters too (just kidding) my senators. A few more weeks and it will be down to,
DearSenator Lincoln.Thanks TRex
SusanD @ 10
This true – all mail to DC gov’t officials gets irradiated and who knows what all so fax is for sure better and more timely.
a tack! a tack! a tack!
“perception of you as a ventriliquist’s dummy”
This phrase brings up something that is sorely missing from the msm. I know they give awards, their equivalent of the Oscars, but I think they should get even more. Maybe monthly, weekly, or whenever appropriate (every half hour) give a “Charlie McCarthy award”.
Maybe Harry Reid is not feeling all that well, it seems I read that he had a mild stroke a couple of months back. I think he’s getting on and slowing down :(
Trex, love your how to primer and the fountain pen narrative was just too good, so much I got a catalog from the NY store. I never realized those pens were soooooo expensive!
Mommythosemenscareme @
9
Oops!
This is all fine and good but there more than a few a******s you should real let go on their way to perdition.
too full of one’s self to acknowledge gifts recieved. assured mother taught one to say thank you…………..step back and know…..
Again and once more, such a fabulous graphic…where do you girls/guys find them???
Trex, I am working on a letter, too! It starts like this:
“Timmeh, you ignorant slut,…”
That’s as far as I’ve gotten. Any suggestions?
And remember, if you’re writing to Chimpy, short words and simple sentences. Pictures will help. At the end you can threaten him that if he does not mend his ways Dick won’t let him be Preznit anymore.
Whoo!! I’m making a list, checking my printer’s ink cartridges and paper supply. Thanks TRex!
You guys are really impressive. :)
Determined to win >> make sure ‘yours’ are properly trained, armed and ready to battle. hahhaha
TRex @ Top:
I had a goat with malapropism once, but litagatormom burnt it as a sacrifice.
Gotta run, g’night Trex and fellow Pups. Great post.
And try, oh try, not to place the preposition at the end of the sentence as in “the person whom you are writing to.
Strunk would have said, “The person to whom you are writing.” Don’t know what White would have said, half the time I didn’t agree with him. His style. He was a wonderful writer. My other soul is Snobell the cat. “You call those teeth?” said Snowbell. “Wanna see a good set?”
TREX! This is a wonderful post.
I couldn’t help thinking about your comment on a recent late nite thread, here.
TRex, quoted:
~~My mother swears with the true eloquence and fluidity of the native southerner. She sounds like she’s giving you her deviled egg recipe when she’s actually shredding you, your upbringing, your manners, and all of your ancestors, and casting a blight that will taint your bloodline for generations to come.
It’s breathtaking to behold.
It made parent-teacher conferences very, very exciting to me as a child. ~~
—- I guess the deviled eggs don’t fall too far from the tree!
Kinda/Very OT – are we confident that the verdict is gonna come tommorrow?
The Amnesty Int’l instructs volunteers visiting their reps to be Accurate, Brief, and Courteous – the ABCs of advocacy. I would add that we should always double check the accuracy of any reference, but that’s standard practice among bloggers anyway.
Wonderful template, TRex. It’s so much easier to do something if you have a model. It’s a lot like the foil of a nice thank you note:
Dear Aunt X,
Random conversational sentence. Inquiry about her pet/job/hobby. Exclamations of joy over wonderful gift. Example of my use of said gift. Thank you so much.
News about family. Random conversational sentence(s),
Love,
Trex, you are such a genius. This is a great way to wind down the day after liveblogging. I love writing letters.
LaFourmiRouge @ 28
I think if you rework it a little, say…”Timmeh, you ignorant gigalo,…” See, now that is classier.
cynic @ 34
I’ll fix that. I had to write in a hurry.
petedownunder @ 20
This is alsp true of major newspapers…at least at the WaPo. The delay isn’t as long, but snail mail to the building can be delayed as long as a week. I’m assuming the same is true of the NYT, the networks, and the major cable stations.
Hey TRex – lovely DC pic. Writing in a hurry why?
Helen @ 42
TRex has a day job ;) with very odd hours.
p.s. TRex does have a serious “day job”. I didn’t need to include ;).
Helen, I think we are all hoping every night that the verdict will come tomorrow. Unfortunately, there just is no way of predicting so every night I keep on hoping “tomorrow”.
Like T-Rex, I am a firm believer in the power of the letter.
This Thursday, perhaps I’ll feature a few of mine. Or not.
First time posting here, BTW. I love FDL!
Letter-writers please note that the word “meretricious” does not mean “lacking in merit,” or anything close to it. It’s derived from Greek; a meretrix was a prostitute, so to be meretricious is, essentially, to be arrayed in hooker’s regalia.
I’ve fallen down on the letters recently due to other projects, but writing them is great fun. Here’s one I did a few years back about Ed Klein’s repellent Hillary book. It runs long, well more than 12 sentences…but hell, it’s to a publisher.
TRex! Just checking in to say thanks for this great and helpful post. Hope to be able to put it to good use very soon. Excellent guidance here!
TRex – Now THAT was FUNNY! I almost emptied my tissue box wiping back the tears. I love learning with laughter. Helps to make it stick so much better in the noggin.
Don’t you ever change – much. There’s nothing sexier than a man with a terrific sense of humor, and lots of smarts.
lolo @
38
Aw. I’m not a genius. If I was a genius, I’d be rich by now.
JGabriel @ 32
So funny, I am totally cracked up. Thanks for the highlight of the day.
Now tomorrow, and a verdict?
WarrenS @
46
Welcome, Warren! Please come by any time.
Dear Theropod:
Thank you for this excellent post. May I recommend a line I always include prior to my signature, regardless of the spanking I’ve just administered to Senator Boxer, Senator Feinstein, or Madame Speaker?
This, I find, is a subtle reminder but preferable to:
Just thinking, can’t sleep – will we all have a big on line party tomorrow night if the guilty verdict comes in?? I’m so up for it
Kudos! Kudos! And yet again, kudos!
TeresaPChicago @ 53
I’ll bring the chips and salsa!
triciawrites @ 50
Hmm, the last time I wrote a letter to thank Dick Durbin for taking a strong stand by comparing treatment of Gitmo detainees to the gulags, he broke down in tears the next day and apologized for it.
Terre @ 48
Hey Terre – The ONLY thing sexier than a funny man? A smart man. Did anyone say FITZ???
Sparkles, you are good.Sparkles the Iguana @ 57
AZ Matt @ 55
I’ll bring the nitrous tank and peyote.
That’s a joke.
Oh no it’s TRex @ 60
Oh not it’s not; TRex
I’ll bring the handcuffs, TRex.
I wonder if your fire breathing liberal mother learned this at the knee of her mother(your grandmother) at a time when pen and paper, envelope and a stamp would fulfill the four basic requirements? It’s too bad, now, that one must have a computer and printer in order to participate in this “ancient practice.” Please, geezers, know that it’s o.k. to send a handwritten letter as long as its long, or meandering generally and has insufficient postage.
Fun WaPoO chatz tomorrow, to break up the live-blogging:
Peter Baker, White House Reporter, at 11am Eastern
Our friend Rajiv Chandrasekaran, Associate Editor and former Baghdad Bureau Chief, author of “Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraq’s Green Zone” at Noon Eastern.
Eugene Robinson, Opinion Columnist, at 1pm Eastern
.
Reminder: Questions may be submitted at any time!
Suzanne @ 62
Trex,
I think you might want to put the good china away before the party starts.
OK – Suzanne wins!!!!!
These days, I wonder about the effects of such letters, though. I had a really bad experience with an airline that shall not be named, no, fuck it, it was Frontier. Waited about a week until I was icily cold about it all, and composed. Followed all your rules, and was faithful to my own #5 (leave the zinger for the very last–their ad campaign says they are a “whole different animal” and I said after flying with them, I knew what that whole different animal was–a dodo bird–flightless and doomed to extinction seemed to fit them).
The result? A letter saying “we hope you’ll fly with us again” and they put me on their fuckin’ mailing list to take their VISA card….
Criticism just isn’t something that registers on _fill in the blank_ (corporations, Bushies, politicians in general, the media) these days.
That’s not to say one shouldn’t write them–one should–but, they simply don’t admit mistakes, don’t acknowledge them when pointed out, and will spin shamelessly when caught.
One has to be prepared for that reaction, these days. Of course, when they weasel, that gives one the opportunity to write another letter…. :)
Wow!?!?! What did I start. No wait, it’s all good. I’ll sit back and cook, it’s what I do, and you all can bring your wits, and…whatever…
montag @ 67
I don’t a politician will put you on mailing list for a VISA card.
My fav letter to write is the one wherein I point out that my questions in my previous letter, dated xyz, copy enclosed, were not answered nor was there any acknowledgement of receipt of said letter. I like to send this return receipt requested – it costs a little more but they know the mailroom guy signed for it and I’ve got the proof they got it.
Huh, Teresa? What DID you start? I’m just sitting around minding my own business
Actually, TRex, this is very useful stuff. (My first dawning realization is that I have probably used the word “baboon” too liberally.)
Helen @ 58:
I did include SMARTS. But there’s smarts (TRex) and smarts (Fitz), and I love both kinds.
:o)
Okay, kids. Gotta head out, go by the grocery store and then head home. I’ll see you all in about an hour.
With regard to the electeds and TradMed — the fax may be the way to go. Emails are easily deleted by a lowly intern; snailmail needs to go through weeks of sniffing and security.
But a fax that follows the rules TRex prescribed: excellent.
Do we know anyone in these places who could advise us?
Suzanne and handcuffs Helen? Did I hear your applause? Peyote? Just trying to coordinate my menu around THOSE nefarious items, ahem
And the fTerre @ 73
andthe difference is: Book and street?
TRex @ 74
Mallomar, please!
Lets not make it Rome before the fall…then again, how often will we see Scooter go down
Ooooh, you are so right TRex! I love these types of letters, they were de riguer growing up in New England and battleaxes of the highest order taught my sisters and I the “right” way to compose them. It is a very satisfying feeling popping one of these stingrays into an envelope and using ones best pen to address it, applying the stamp and kissing it goodbye. In the old days, strong men would quake when they got them…now of course, things are different. How I miss the simpler, more potent times.
For those that do not know, I spent 24 years in law enforcement. Hence the handcuffs :)
TeresaPChicago @ 79
Constitutionally speaking, he can only go down once on these charges…but if somebody finds some new malfeasance for a sequel, hey, I’m game.
Too bad we can’t send “howlers” a la Harry Potter.
Suzanne @ 81
I see. That wasn’t the same joke I thought it was. Not at all.
TRex @ 60
I’ll bring the… oh ya know!.
‘ere
:-)
punaise @ 21
A tacky image, surely.
Got it, didn’t mean to cast aspersions Suzanne. Just kidding :)
So was I – kidding :) No aspersions cast at all.
We’ll all be crumpled up in laughter tomorrow evening I’m sure *she said, clutching rosary*
My humble opinion:
Not sure I agree that a letter, no matter how masterfully crafted, is the best way to hasten Ann’s retirement. I suspect the powers that be will have staff scanning communications to get the gist — then filing the opinion expressed under pro or con, where it then becomes part of a report summarizing all opinions that have filtered into the office.
Let’s just send editors at Ann’s newspapers a bar of soap so they can clean up their pages and she can wash out her mouth. I’d like to see thousands of bars of soap arriving at the offices of every editor who thinks it’s a great idea to run her columns.
Hey TeresaPChicago – Suzanne is good, handcuffs are good, peyote is good, and applause – EXCELLENT.
Thank you TRex for your very informative tutorial. I will be using my newfound skills in writing to the editor of my nearest paper that carries Ann Coulter’s column.
In this respect, it would be most helpful if you could publish a complete list of papers that are soiled by Ann’s writing. That way we could carpet bomb her columns out of the MSM.
TRex, thank you for a very, very useful lesson. I look forward to composing a calm, reasoned letter on the Walter Reed debacle at my earliest convenience.
In the meantime, did you know that there is an aspiring theropod at the ReddHedd residence?
-S
OH MY I am new here and I am trying to fit in -
i’m trying to close the bold tag… hope this works
TRex @ 48
Trex, you must know that ‘genius’ and ‘rich’ do not always promenade hand-in hand. As a fellow Southerner, how many times have you heard the phrase “Well, if yo’re so smart, how come you ain’t rich?”
And would that make Donald Trump a genius?
I think you are brilliant.
Helen, we were all new here at one point or the other. Late Nite is pretty freewheeling at times and I think you are a fine fit. You even get my jokes – a rarity.
waving at Suzanne….don’t understand what you just did…did you use the cuffs?
My tip:
Make One Point
Local papers do seem to publish the local nutjobs just to keep them quiet for the next month, and you’ll read short-yet-meandering letters which lurch from point to point: the classic wingnut letter always seems to end with some kind of ‘If Only They Knew The Good Lord Jesus.’
But a letter-to-the-editor needs to pick one point, whack it swiftly round the head, and finish. You might be responding to a troll op-ed that has fifteen different holes in it. Pick the weakest, and start with ‘There’s too little space to point out all the flaws in Jerry Lou Fuckwit’s column.’
Ultimately, the LtE is a dying form. It fills space, it placates the kind of people who write letters to newspapers, and the people on the desk treat them with a mixture of weariness and scorn. After all, they’re journalists and you’re not. But even then, your local paper is seen by more people in a greater concentration than any blog.
As a codicil to ‘Be Manipulative’, I’d say ‘Know Their Egos’. They’re quite large, but they’re also quite fragile.
Finally, reward good behaviour. If a reporter writes a good story or puts together a good piece, tell them you liked it. It goes some way toward driving out the bullshit claim that all the Teh Uncivil Left!!OMG!!1! does is write letters saying ‘Sweet Lord, that was a heap of shit you served up the other day’. Reporters like to be told they did good stuff.
Pumpkinheads would be insulted to be compared with Tim Russert.
Suzanne @ 97
Getting that handcuff joke required a certain — um, delicacy?
Suzanne is very practical. As she says here–
my favorite pen was the plain black government issue ball point pen that i would offer up while saying press hard four copies line 24 not an admission of guilt only a promise to appear on the date and time listed.
TeresaPChicago @ 68
I’m pretty witless, but I’ll bring the wine. Red or white?
waving back to spidey – naw, i just threatened to bring them to the fantasy guilty verdict party if trex brought the peyote.
My cat says he wants to be adopted by Fitz. He’s got his bags packed. I think it’s a sign. Or should I go to bed now….
Helen @ 94
Try curling into a foetal ball. It also works for Friday news dumps.
Both Kristine!!! And alot of both.
Spoiler @ 90
I’ve said elseblog that the way to deal with Coulter is through the medium of performance art: What Would Guy Debord Do?
The custard-pie throwers had the right idea. A Belgian flaneur managed to hit Parisian fop Bernard-Henri Levy several times. But be creative. Punk Ann Coulter. It’ll be hard: she rarely crawls out of her lair into territory that might be vaguely unfriendly. But she can be punked, she needs to be punked, and the punking needs to go on YouTube.
am still thinking that Thursday will be the Verdict Day
TeresaPChicago @ 107
As you wish ;-)
Please don’t say things like that spiderpaws
EvilDrPuma @
84
Me neither, lol.
Coultergist needs to be indicted on voter registration fraud. That is the performance art I wanna see.
It must be tomorrow. It will be tomorrow
Titanyum @ 92
Titanyum, they were looking for that information earlier today so I’d bet it will be coming soon.
EvilDrPuma @ 106
Thanks Evil – can’t quite do that
Wow if that wasn’t useful, needs more writing tactics!
WarrenS @ 45
Warren, that letter is a work of art!
…but it’s true! Mercury goes direct Wednesday eve so the jury will be able to finally agree when they come to deliberate on Thursday. And we want it that way because otherwise the appeals may work if it is brought in before Weds eve.
Of coiurse itTeresaPChicago @ 114
Of course it will be tommorrow
I sense a Whangdepootenawah coming on.
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BTW Thanks T-Rex for the excellent letter writing tutorial. Who was it that once said “Brevity is the soul of wit.”?
AZ Matt @ 69
If DeLay had his own bank, I bet he would. :)
Spiderpaws, relax on the astrological forcast already. That is NOT an accurate barometer for jury deliberations. BTW – the full moon eclipse was yesterday for chrissake.
Oh! I just wrote a sample letter – I’ll post it for your perusal!
Dear Senator Obama,
Your national prominence rests in part on the perception that you, unlike most politicians, possess a moral compass, yet you say that all options, including military action, are on the table in regards to Iran?
You say you opposed the Iraq war from the beginning, and yet the very same people who deceived this nation into that criminal and failed war are using the very same dubious claims in an orchestrated propaganda campaign against Iran, and you are in agreement with them, even using the same threatening phrases as George W. Bush.
As Justice Robert H. Jackson proclaimed after the trials of Nazi war criminals at Nuremburg, aggressive war ” is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy.” for it is a crime against peace, the Supreme war crime, that enables all the others.
Decent people cannot support a candidate advocating another gross violation of the Nuremburg standard that has served this country well for the last 60 years.
Those who support another war of aggression can always vote Republican, those who oppose such a criminally stupid action are not going to long remain deceived by your attempts to court their support.
Sincerely, one of your constituents.
spiderpaws @ 119
I don’t know about the stars, but this jury appears to be making sure every question is asked. And the judge seems to want to stir more up with the unanimous on one date issue. I don’t feel as encouraged by today’s notes as others here do.
Thanks Helen
Spidey, does that mean things become more clear after Mercury ends that retrograde thingie?
spiderpaws @ 119
spidey- I agree with you, for entirely different reasons. I’m sure the FDL mod crew would wish for their long travail to be over. But, what with all of those jury questions, just another one is going to push things past Wed. Even if they come to a verdict on Wed. they will want to sleep on it, I imagine. I really hope we are both right about “Thursday”.
Helen @ 120
It will be what it will be. I’d rather wait for this jury to hash it all out and come back with correct verdicts than throw up their hands and say “F*uck it. We can’t figure it out.” and have to re-try the whole thing.
I for one always enjoy the contributions of spiderpaws.
pseudonymous in nc @ 108
This is a great idea. I remember when “dirty tricks” was a fine art… circa Nixon et al. Anyone remember Dick Tuck? Punk Coulter – embarrassment and ridicule are time-honored ways to de-claw these types.
Helen..
no need to try to fit in,
just be who you is
’cause if you is who you ain’t
then you ain’t who you is.. :)
and that’s one of the things that makes FDL so special. We all get to be who we is.
TeddySanFran @ 131
ditto
I actually wonder if a new trial could be better, without the jury screening that went on about Cheney that became irrelevant when he didn’t testify.
I must be in a post-sugar slump now. I’ll try to purge these negative thoughts.
All this talk about tomorrow has that blasted ear worm song from Annie running through my brain.
joysness @ 133
Thanks Joy
TJ, emptywheel has a good post up on The Next Hurrah. I feel pretty good after reading it. One of the commenters helped me understand the two dates issue about the Cooper count 3.
Is this the link to the emptywheel post you were talking about, Teresa?
Yes Suzanne, thank you.
Thank you, Teresa and Suzanne.
TJ @ 135
How sure are you they won’t try this same head-fake again? And the problem with re-trials is that essentially both sides have shown their cards, and the do-over is not always advantageous to the prosecution. Not to mention this kicks everything down another Friedman unit or so. It’s also harder to find jurors who have not heard about the trial now that it’s been getting at least a little media attention. And it will, if the jury hangs.
Although it seems Walton is clearly ticked-off that the defense used Libby & Cheney’s possible testimony as part of the pre-trial strategy and failed to deliver. I suspect he won’t be quite a generous in indulging the defense’s motions if there is a new trial. That could bode well for Team Fitz.
That’s quite a how-to T-Rex. Loved the letter to Russert.
For the sake of future generations, though, you may want to fix the bit where you refer to “Moral High Ground” as Step One. It’s actually Step Three.
TRex, I gotta disagree with you here. In letters like these, style points are never minor. Think about the intern who spends all day sorting through the mail from concerned constituents/viewers/readers . . . by the time they get to your letter, they’re already drowsy. Don’t push them over the edge into their afternoon nap with a boring letter.
Somehow, your letter needs to stand out from the crowd. Call it snark, call it personality, call it what you will – but don’t call it style-less!
Letter writing is like Olympic Ice Skating — it’s always all about the style.
TeddySanFran @ 131
So do I. Thank you Spiderpaws.
Kristine @ 122
Shakespeare wrote it. I don’t recall which of his characters said it, although I seem to recall it was one of those doddering types who provided comic relief.
Cujo359 @ 148
Old Polonius, in Hamlet.
I’m with you Spiderpaws. Get Mercury out of retrograde before the verdict comes in because astrologically this is also important for the future of the appeal(s) as I recall.
Had to dust off the old hippie manual for this info, but being a double Gemini leaves one permanently afflicted. I for one, always enjoy your insights, so thank you.
sporkovat @
125
Nice work.
Peterr @ 149
Ah, I should have remembered! Polonius: Talk about a political creature! Did you ever see Brannagh’s complete 4 hour production? So much subtext to the usual productions, and so relevant today re: upsetting the rightful political order.
I’m a double Gemini.
Let’s you and me and all our various personalities be friends!
TRex!
I’ve been looking forward to your letter writing lesson all day. Fabulous!!
I’m working on a letter to Rep. Candice Miller (R-MI 10th) re: the upcoming vote (14 March) on the Supplemental Budget – 93 billion for Iraq. It’s a sure thing that she will vote for it, but damn I’m going let her know that the rubber stamp has got to stop.
As a slight variation to your plan, I thought that I would combine obsessions and fountain-pen hand-write a letter and then fax it so that it gets there in this century. I promise to write very neatly.
BTW, I bid on a marbled green Waterman Kultur today on eBay.
brevity is the soul of lingere- D. Parker
Yo, T,
Any chump with a computer can spew out angry letters. If’n y’all really want to get someone’s attention, a hand-written (with a fountain pen, of course) angry letter on quality stationery (Crane, G. Lalo, or something else of that nature) jumps out of the pile and demands to be read.
Something like this (to the managing editor of the LA Times):
Dear Mr. Frantz,
Your March 5, page A1 article on Rep. Loretta Sanchez did a grave disservice to an outstanding public servant, to her consitutents, and to your readers.
That Rep. Sanchez is an attractive woman is conceded. That her attractiveness ought to be irrelevant to any reasoned consideration of her accomplishments in Congress should be equally obvious.
By my calendar, it is the year 2007. Surely we have moved beyond the silliness of the past, and can accept and acknowledge that it is possible for a woman to be both attractive and accomplished. Certainly the citizens of Rep. Sanchez’ district are satisfied with her services, as they have re-elected her four times. By focusing on the least important of her many fine qualities, your author trivializes her and her accomplishments.
Apologies are owed.
Very truly yours,
/s/burnspbesq
I have one of those and I adore it.
You’re going to love it, too. I just know it.
TeddySanFran @
131
Me, too!!
Somebody’s been writing letters . . . and Ann Coulter’s website is losing advertisers.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer website.
burnspbesq
that is a fine letter. i think handwritten letters get more attention due to their uniqueness in this day of fonts and printers.
As regards fax and snail mail,
is there any point to following up a fax with a hard copy in the mail.
Does it really take weeks to get mail through to congresscritters?
Do they take faxes as seriously as snailmail?
Helen @
120
You’re not Helen Thomas, are you?
I’ve been informed by politicians’ offices that snail mail is delayed by at least a week for decontamination. They recommend faxes.
I’ve also been told to keep the sentences simple. I tend to use too many clauses. This tends to weaken the impact of what is said.
Peterr @ 159
Should have warned me that I would be exposed to her photograph.
“that grammar geeks like me swear by [sic]”
…not to sound like a person who has Virgo up there on a portion of the tenth house but the full moon eclipse was Saturday, not yesterday…and thank you everyone.
Maybe tomorrow night, we’ll cover how to write a laudatory letter.
smapdi @ 163
Me, too. I almost turned to stone, but for looking at it in a mirror :-)
Wigwam @ 164
I puzzled over that.
Do you have a suggestion of how it could be rephrased?
TRex @ 169
. . . by which grammar geeks like me swear . . .
cheers to burnspbesq at 156 – if his penmanship matches his command of the language, and there is quality stationary, etc, the letter would be like a Savile Row suit.
also- thanx for the props from the ‘rex – it could use a bit more fine tuning, but I’m glad you think its in the neighborhood of your suggestions in the original post.
Peterr @
169
Done.
Thanks, guys. I had to write this post at a dead run. Busy night at work and too much caffeine.
Suzanne @ 160
Thanks. I just got a new, extra-extra-fine nib assembly for one of my very favorite pens, a Parker Mandarin Yellow Duofold (the 1995 reproduction, not the original from the 1920s, although I am lucky enough to also own one of those). That sucker is full of Noodler’s “La Couleur Royale.” I am loaded and locked and ready to rock. Step back, folks, this could get ugly.
Or it could get…beautiful.
I am so happy to find so many kindred pen-heads here.
And today, I am relishing PR Blue Suede in my Mauna Kea and American Blue in my Kaweco.
TRex…looking forward to the laudatory letter directions.
Peterr @ 170
Wait! Wait! Peterr was making a joke!
I see no problem whatsoever in your phrasing, TRex.
Peterr @ 169
Because grammar snobs like myself find that these are things up with we cannot put.
Eh, I fixed it. It flows better that way.
you even got the that vs. which thing right, per Strunk and White.
Sometimes it takes a village to write a post.
Here is a copy of an email sent to John Warner the day the Walter Reed article came out. There are probably a host of “no-nos” and I did it on the fly but, oddly, I still wouldn’t change a word.
Dear Senator Warner,
As the Republican Majority has been in control for the past 12 years, including the 6 years of this current war, I direct this question to you, Sir.
Please allow me to be fully candid, and excuse my choice of words, but I can find no other way to express how I feel after reading this article.
Please tell me what the Goddamn Hell is going on on Capital Hill that our wounded Troops can be treated to recuperation among roaches, mold and filth:
Soldiers Face Neglect, Frustration At Army’s Top Medical Facility
By Dana Priest and Anne Hull
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, February 18, 2007; A01
Behind the door of Army Spec. Jeremy Duncan’s room, part of the wall is torn and hangs in the air, weighted down with black mold. When the wounded combat engineer stands in his shower and looks up, he can see the bathtub on the floor above through a rotted hole. The entire building, constructed between the world wars, often smells like greasy carry-out. Signs of neglect are everywhere: mouse droppings, belly-up cockroaches, stained carpets, cheap mattresses.
This is the world of Building 18, not the kind of place where Duncan expected to recover when he was evacuated to Walter Reed Army Medical Center from Iraq last February with a broken neck and a shredded left ear, nearly dead from blood loss. But the old lodge, just outside the gates of the hospital and five miles up the road from the White House, has housed hundreds of maimed soldiers recuperating from injuries suffered in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
(snip)
Next came 7 a.m. formation, one way Walter Reed tries to keep track of hundreds of wounded. Formation is also held to maintain some discipline. Soldiers limp to the old Red Cross building in rain, ice and snow. Army regulations say they can’t use umbrellas, even here. A triple amputee has mastered the art of putting on his uniform by himself and rolling in just in time. Others are so gorked out on pills that they seem on the verge of nodding off.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..72_pf.html
Senator….what in God’s name are you people smoking up there? I am in the process of making several hundred copies of this article and distributing them with the tagline, “This is what your Republican Congressional Leadership has achieved.” That, among other articles celebrating the Armor shortage, backdoor draft, cuts in veteran benefits, missing 12 BILLION dollars and the old 109th three-day-work-week.
The Republicans, Senator, who cliquishly blocked the Iraq surge resolution and did a smarmy high-five in the press, now go home to their overpaid comfy leather and crystal recesses. Meanwhile, I will continue to work to make more people aware of just what 12 years of “Republican Leadership” has wrought.
There are no words to describe my disgust and outrage, but I’ll work to oust the S.O.B.s on whose watch this disgrace was perpetrated.
TRex @ 167
That’s a great idea.
I’ve got the problem of having a rubberstamp republican (and former understudy to Tom Delay) for a congresswoman. I call , email, fax, write and I wonder if her people are not sick of me. I have made an effort to be polite and I ocassionally send supportive messages on the rare occasions when she does something like independent thought.
Grammar geeks (among whom I count myself): don’t kill yourselves over that rule about the prepositions at the end of the sentence or clause. Someone chastised Winston Churchill about that habit, and he replied, “that is the type of pedantry up with which I will not put.” TRex, to recast that clause would put the entire rest of your sentence off.
Peterr- you were making a joke, weren’t you?
TRex, did you see the comment earlier this afternoon by Christy, when things were getting really silly and serious about Libby possibly getting closer to being found guilty?
Folks chimed in with all kinds of comments, like imagining her using your mantra “attack! attack! attack!”
Valley Girl @ 184
Now that I think about it, I’m not sure I remember. . . I’m kind of a grammar geek myself. It goes with the public speaking territory.
CNN Libby Update
This is a link to Cnn’s latest take on the jurors’ requests. The latest notes per CNN were not made public tonight.
PS: My “friends” would love to come out and play with your friends Trex, but I have to tell you I had to put a couple of mine into permanent “quiet time”.
Blue Dido @ 182
I agree. Sometimes, only a preposition will do at the end of a sentence.
The photo of Coultergeist scared the hell out of me.
OT but does anyone have any good tricks to catch rats? I now have an attic and basement-full and they are managing to get the peanutbutter laced oreo cookie piece out of the snap traps without springing them even though mr. paws ties it on (the cookie that is). Tonight we pulled some bars off the air vent, set a box next to it and sprinkled it with catnip to see if we could lure the cats into the basement after the rats. No poison though, food chain thing.
By the way, the members of It’s A Beautiful Day are no longer together and the bass player lives near Sacramento.
tbsa @ 189
People, people!
Just keep telling yourself “It’s only a scheme. It’s only a scheme.”
thanks for the Beautiful Day update, spidey. i have nothing to offer about the rats tho. sorry.
Peterr @ 186
I thought it was a joke, because it changed the emphasis to “swearing”.
. . . by which grammar geeks like me swear . .
Grammar geek also goes with scientific writing territory, and S&W is worthy. But sometimes misleading.
tbsa @ 188
Finally, something about Verizon that makes me happy!
Peterr @ 184
Sigh.
I love that little girl.
She’s already one of us.
It’s the red hair. And great parents.
Wow… Great stuff TRex.
I read a book recently called “Dispatch” about a letter writer of epic powers. A lifetime steeped in it with such force of persuasion as to attract the darkest forces in the universe upon him. It was a bit hoaky at the end but the premise and build up were a thing to read. Much can be learned about the power of “The Letter” from a novel such as that or under the direction of a Sensei such as yourself.
The only way I know to get rid of rats is to start hanging pork chops from the neighbors’ houses.
Nate, you are correct. TRex is a Sensei.
Commons3nse – Maybe there are some no no’s in that letter, but you hit the nail on the head. It truly is a thing of beauty. These bastards should start realizing some of us are far past outrage and disgust.
“swear by” may have unofficial gerund status.
For you grammar geeks, may I suggest “Eats, Shoots & Leaves”. Pure heaven.
Alicia @ 188
A lot of this has to do with the way we talk. There are things we say casually that are perfectly acceptable, but for which we’d get an “F” from the editors in a submission to The New York Review of Books. If the statement is in a casual setting, colloquialisms are appropriate, even though they may not pass muster in a more formal context.
spiderpaws @ 190
Have you tried sticky traps instead?
montag-YGM
*waves happily to montag*
I have vague memories of my dad making pens out of bamboo, for pen and ink drawing. Lovely to write with for a short time. Here’s how:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/fami…..68,00.html
Thanks for the tips, TRex.
…unfortunately, the neighbors have their own rats, thanks.
TRex @ 196
Remind me never to go scuba diving with you T! lol
You’re the kinda dive buddy that would stab his buddy in the leg and swim like hell when a Tiger Shark showed up. :)
By the way, I’m gonna email this thread to Nicole at C&L. It’s time everyone got reminded about the Power of the Pen & Paper!
Hi Suzanne! How’s things? I just got off the train a few hours ago and have to head into the ‘office’ for a few hours so I thought I’d pop in and say hi before signing out for 30.
TRex @ 168
You said it the way I’d say it, but “geeks” is subject of the verb “swear,” so the pronoun has to agree (I think), e.g., “Now and then, there’s a fool such as I.”
Valley Girl @ 200
Maybe we’ll have to check with Pach. After last Saturday’s Late Nite, I’d say he’s the current authority on swearing around here.
Suzanne @ 197
You guys are going to start making me really uncomfortable if you keep this up.
spiderpaws @ 189
The only sure cure that I have found is cats. We have lots of citrus trees, and in between the time that one cat died and the time we acquired our present cats they ran roughshod over us – even peeking up out of a burner on the stove! We tried the Rat Zapper, which worked till they got wise to it, but other than that we had no luck until we got Venus and Mercury.
It took about a month for them to eradicate the rats but it’s been 3 years rat-free.
Just my experience…good luck!
Valley Girl @ 204
Yes, thanks–didn’t reply right away because you need your sleep. :)
TRex @ 210
Tough Shit and suck it up! You lead… People follow. Deal with it and continue to be worthy! :)
spiderpaws @ 207
that does not mean that you can not share, spiderpaws.
TJ: too cruel! That is pure torture, dying a slow death stuck to a piece of paper, starving to death – and screaming I might add. A fast quick death is the only way…poison and sticky traps are absolutely out.
Peterr @ 185
I see Peanut has already mastered the Cute ATTACK. *evil grin* Something my 3 year old niece has had down pat for the last year and a half. *laughs*
I love, love, love this one, Alicia.
montag- obviously I am still awake.
TRex @ 205
waves back–unfortunately, no pen in hand when doing so. :)
TRex @ 210
TRex is a Sensei-tive guy
TRex @ 217
And I sure do like that antique they’re standing on. What is that, a sideboard? An old radio?
Nate @ 207
Me thinks I need to practice the power of the Period.
PUNAISE!!
punaise @ 220
HIYA punaise!
“Punaise” is a condiment that makes your sandwich taste funny.
TRex @ 217
They wore those things for all of one day, just to make me feel good, then ditched them. And I though they looked so cute!
They were chittering at the squirrel that day.
My five year old burst into the study last week, where I was busy online here at FDL. “Daddy, Daddy, come quick — now!”
“What is it?”
“Keith Olbermann is on!” Then, changing his voice a bit, he went on: “Bill Orally is The Worst. Person. In-the-worrrrlllddddd!!!”
I couldn’t stop laughing.
Remember the zig limit is 3 and then the margins get busted.
TRex @ 221
It’s my grandfather’s lawyer bookshelf.
TRex @ 226
Only between April and June.
Thanks tbsa…
I have a host of links that I plan to integrate into a flier that will remind people, semi-monthly or so, on the myriad debacles that these neocon nutcases have imposed on the US. From Katrina, to proposing experimentation on lower income children through the “CHEERS” program with Bush’s EPA.
CNN, FOX, etc., might think they can lay on the BritneyAnnaNicoleDiaperAstronaut crap, but I remember, and I plan to remind people every chance I can. With any luck, they’ll be hard pressed to squeeze out any more republican victories around here.
Valley Girl @ 228
When you’re here, VG, I always feel like you’re sitting right next to me. In terms of geography, we’re fairly proximal, but *waves*.
An excellent post. I think we’ve gotten so accustomed to acknowledging others’ feelings that we no longer feel comfortable saying “shame on you”. Coupled with “Apologies are owed” as burnspbesq so eloquently states @155, it’s a rather powerful statement.
(psssst. I’m not really here. I’m at work, wrestling with Autocad demons. week from hell. trying this “lurking” thing)
TRex @ 221
You may have inspired me to start up that blog again. It was a lot of fun but I lost my camera for a while and got out of the groove.
TRex @
232
Ah, that explains it. I thought it was the deviled egg comment that put you off.
Peterr @ 227
Thanks for the laugh. Goes to show even 5 year olds are more intelligent than our so called MSM.
TRex @ 157
I adore Spiderpaws. Smitten? Yeah, you gotta problem with that?
TRex @ 210
How about sempai instead,
TRex-sama
Hey, I meant to tell you guys this. There’s going to be a formal announcement tomorrow night, but Chicago Dyke is going to be doing an advice column here on Thursdays, I think. So, start thinking of questions. We’re thinking kind of a grrrrrl politico Dan Savage here.
Jacqrat @ 239
Moi aussi
Three things we don’t have anywhere near where I live in Alaska – rats, cockroaches and snakes. OTOH, we don’t DARE hang pork chops outside at night.
Good advice, TRex. If people do what you say, it keeps it to one page, which is important too. I suppose somebody mentioned that already.
Ed*ard Teller @ 243
No, actually, you’re the first.
Wigwam @
208
Love that song. Learned it from Rodney Crowell’s first album, almost 30 years ago.
Pardon me if I’m sentimental when we say goodbye,
Don’t be angry with me when I cry,
I’m a fool, but I’ll love you, dear, until the day I die,
Now and then, there’s a fool such as I.
spiderpaws, shall I remind everyone of the NSA version of your handle? the one where the guy in the van burps?
I have old cats and they only go after the small and weak at this point though I remember the days when they brought home the big rats, years ago. Am not reupping on cats after this lot goes because I plan to actually have FURNITURE & RUGS for a few years…sigh…have gone through four complete sofa shreddings (down to the wood) with one of my cats, LuLu Belle.
punaise @ 236
Demons, you say? Haven’t done any exorcisms in a while, but when an emergency arises . . .
(laying hands on the Autocad)
Be Gone, vile demons!!
Let me know how that works out for you.
Sempai works well in the case of TRex Hpschrd. *nods* Where Jane and Christy are the Sensei.
punaise @ 234
Autocad! Used it once to reconstruct neuronal sections. It was not very elegant, as I recall.
Prepositional endings were banned by 18th century linguists attempting to develop a consistent grammar for the English language. Unfortunately, they chose Latin for their model, and Cicero never a sentence ended a preposition with. English is not Latin, however, and, despite Strunk et al., hey, it’s OK.
TRex @ 240
Got writing sample? :) Love reading a tough new ass-kicker!
707 peterr.
spiderpaws @ 247
Maybe a trip to the pound is in order. I bet you could find some strapping young rat-assassins there.
spiderpaws @ 216
I didn’t intend that you leave them there indefinitely. Sorry to offend.
thanks Peterr, your a man of many talents. I feel better already.
Nate @ 252
She is Chicago Dyke.
Hear her ROAR!
punaise @ 246
Do tell! I’ve been curious.
As far as the rat question, I can give you something to ponder:
If you have a cage that can close after a rat has entered,(as with feral cat traps) then you can try this…lay out food with no traps, etc. Next, place another minor element of the trap (like remove the door) and repeat the first step (the idea, of course, being to lure the rat into a false sense of security with free food as you ‘build’ and set the trap over a time period of days; ensure the food is the same and in the same place)….repeat until the rats, unsuspecting of the freebie and disregarding the ‘elements’, will essentially walk into the trap by themselves.
You can also create variations on the ‘trip’ mechanism. Good luck.
TJ: no offense…but what would I do with them? I suppose I could drop them into a bucket of water to drown them or bring them down the road a mile or so, rip them off the sticky paper and set them free at the pedofiles house…
punaise @ 245
I wanna hear! What exactly does your handle mean, Spidey?
Screaming rats and ann coulter, I am never going to sleep.
TRex @ 226
But, it’s great on tart stuff…. :)
spied… (urrrrp!) … pause
…have tried the humane trap thing and spent months trying to lure them in but they stole the food and never got caught…it’s the same with the snap trap…first the peanut butter without the trap, then the trap not set, then the “setting” and once it’s set they KNOW..yes, they do.
smapdi @ 262
you repeat yourself
As far as what to do with the rats after you catch them…isn’t there a GOP headquarters in your town?
;-)
punaise @ 263
You are very naughty, Punaise.
…really, Punaise
Well, I was thinking of a trip to a field. I assumed you’d be able to cut the sticky paper in a way that they could gnaw off the remains. But I suppose you could put spring traps next to them once they were caught. Perhaps they wouldn’t be able to steal the bait at that point.
TRex @ 253
Old Chinese advice: Look for a cat with many ridges on the roof of it’s mouth. Of course, unless you can get the cat to yawn, I will take no responsibility for how the cat feels about your probing.
I had a cat with 9 ridges – it could kill anything.
hpschd @ 271
so you didn’t name it Ruffles?
Valley Girl @ 268
tisk, tisk :~)
Peterr @ 247
You can’t exorcise demons from AutoCAD. AutoCAD IS the Demon!
First it tantalizes you with its wiles of geometric simplicity, sucks you in with easy-to-use template temptresses and then quickly binds you in functions and renders you paralyzed with morbid dyscalculia!
AutoCAD = Evil!
punaise @ 272
But that’s why we love you…
Commons3nse @ 266
I hear they like Taco Bell – is there one nearby?
spiderpaws @ 269
that’s an oldie – doncha remember?
Back from a dynamite rehearsal.
I prefer to write letters to people and organizations I’ve had contact with, and seldom go beyond that. That isn’t real limiting in Alaska, because it is the biggest small town in the world.
If I have to write to somebody or org further afield, I try to take an hour or so doing research on a a tag I can put in there that will grab the reader’s attention in a positive way. If I can’t find something in the group or person’s past I can identify with, I figure it won’t be worth it to write anyway.
For other problems, if you have the money and patience, phone calls can be extremely effective. About a year and a half ago we were upset because some org in NYC had hired a plagiarist. I can’t remember the name or specifics – that stuff’s on my laptop 50 miles away, and I haven’t wasted brain space remembering.
The progressive web had been talking about it for days. And we’d been writing to the org that hired him. When I called the office hiring him, I actually believed them when they said they were unaware of the sh*tstorm about to hit them. My call and others from people like us probably helped more than the letters. He didn’t get the job.
Juan Carlos used to be quite the fearsome hunter. He’d line a new set of squirrel carcasses on the bottom step each day. Sometimes a quarter-squirrel or just the head. Sometimes just a haunch and the tail.
Nowadays, he just hunts warm spots under the covers and Pounce treats.
punaise @ 271
Ninja!
Off to bed – g’night, all!
Hey, ET. Did you ever see the movie “The Full Monty”? At the one character’s mother’s funeral, the brass band plays this incredibly beautiful piece of music and I have never been able to identify it or track it down.
You wouldn’t happen to know what it is, would you?
TJ: ooooh, that sounds good, to set the snap trap next to the sticky trap so they can’t get away once they expertly steal the peanut butter. Mr paws just shakes his head after he goes into the creepy, psycho basement and sees yet another failure of his carefully thought out plans.
Geez TRex- you really do have a way of sucking me into these late nite threads. Especially poignant when I’d meant to go to bed 2 hours before.
punaise @ 235
Are you writing your own AutoLISP and having trouble with it, or is this trouble with “features?”
What version?
Ooooh, we’re going to break 300 comments before I even finish my dinner.
Hooray!!
TRex @ 167
These — so rare, few, and far-between — can greatly move the recipient, especially those in public life! Tonight, I am wondering if mine of long-ago is among the late Senator Eagleton’s papers.
When I was a kid, we had mice in the trunk of our station wagon while taking a cross country trip. They really liked the taste of Starburst.
Ronzoni Rigatoni @ 250
In the 1930s, an opponent in Parliament debate criticized Churchill on a bunch of things, ending with a comment that Churchill had a dreadful habit of ending his sentences in prepositions.
Churchill replied, “That, sir, is an insult, up with which I shall not put!”
TRex @ 285
Nicole @ C&L has it now and was arranging it into morning traffic. Comments will continue well into tomorrow…
BTW. Thanks for link to Chicago Dyke. Great Stuff. Can’t wait to read her FDL column.
montag @ 285
ADT – Architectural Desktop 2007, just basic 2D drafting in a 3D world. I’ve gradually slid into obsolescence by relying on staff, but this has to get out the door tomorrow. so I’d best get back to it! catch y’all later.
Hmm, I think ???????? should save that question for Chicago Dyke (the answer should be interesting :) ).
…come to think of it Pun, I do remember…and jacqrat (is your rat the same as my rat?) at this point any place other than mine is a good place.
As far as their “knowing” there is also a solution to that…cover the device so they are entering darkness, preferably as in a tunnel. They will be drawn by scent but cannot witness anything. I know it begins to sound Rube Goldberg-ish, you hafta be smarter than the rodents. If you have attractive enough bait, their native curiosity and hunger will win over caution.
(I’ve trapped and released very skittish animals that sneaked in through cat doors and such.) It works since they still come around the traps, right?
TRex @ 281
Saw it, don’t have it. This same question came up at some rehearsal last fall. I remember the scene and remember liking the piece, which I didn’t recognize. Maybe I should check.
TRex @ 282
* “Abide with Me”
(1861) (uncredited)
Music by William H. Monk
Hymn by Henry F. Lyte (1847)
Performed by The British Steel Stocksbridge Band at the funeral, with Steve Huison on trumpet
Hauntingly beautiful.
One of our favorite movies ever. And I’m sorry, but Tom Jones rips Joe Cocker a new one on “You Can Leave Your Hat On”
Spilled MIL(f) on aisle 288~
yah, what is that at 288?
And Commonsense (sorry I don’t have any backward letters on my keys) that is a really good idea. Rats are so smart thay are always one step ahead…but don’t they see in the dark??????
TJ @ 287
Last winter we helped some friends move their small animal collection (they breed rodents for pet shop sales). A few days later we heard some faint squeeking in the back of the van. It was almost a week before I managed to capture (by hand) the poor degu that had been living on Dorito crumbs.
what’s up with that?
sorry folks, was walking the cutest dog in the world.. refresh and it should be gone
spiderpaws @ 293
Spider-Paws, Spider-Paws,
Does whatever a spider does
Spins a web, any size,
Catches rats just like flies
Look Out!
Here comes Miz Spider-Paws…
I’m currently #288. What does #296 mean, Jacqrat?
Alicia @
295
Damn, Alicia. I think I love you.
Ed*ard Teller @ 304
We are getting spammed by someone who wants us to link to xxxmilf (moms we’d like to F-word) So, clean up on aisle 298, I used the spilled milk (f) obtuse reference.
…is that what getting spammed looks like?
Jacqrat @ 304
The price of relevance…
spiderpaws @ 307
I think so, ask someone who moderates. I am just a big-mouthed busybody who thinks she knows what it looks like.
Depending on screen refreshes vs refresh comments button refreshes, the # assigned to the comment may be different to another reader than what shows on your screen. When in doubt as to the #, use the time.
Yes, that is what spam looks like. Sorry about not being fast enough and letting you guys see it.
…what house did the Virgo full moon eclipse land in your chart jacqrat?
TRex @ 303
Right back atcha, ya big green lug!
Rats probably see in the dark somewhat, but probably don’t or can’t imagine, sight unseen, a threat in a tunnel in the dark. Keep in mind they are comfortable with tight tunnels and such. They associate safety in the walls and baseboards. Let’s face it, rarely do people position traps in tiny tunnels. They are mostly in or near open spaces. Add to that the fact that most traps are covered in human scent, handling the food, the trap, etc., a big fat caution flag for the rats.
It’s an old plot scenario…there isn’t anything obvious or can be concluded in a dark, enclosed tunnel…and the food does smell good….
http://www.outsidepride.com/store/home.php?cat=279
OK, Spiderpaws, take a look at these rat repellants – The pricy brown gadget would be my choice, but hey – ya never know, bobcat urine might just do the trick (or not). Might also fill your house with exotic aromas.
Keep us posted OK?
…are you the moderator, suzanne?
spiderpaws @ 309
Um, I dunno? How can I find out?
I have been pretty emotional and trying really hard to take care of myself the past few days.
That would be me, spidey.
{{{{{{Jacqrat}}}}}}
{{{{Suzanne}}}}, too
TRex, after you left last night, I was asking Jacqrat about how to find out the Coultergeist’s syndication list. She suggested perhaps someone do a lexis-nexis search as a way to find out what newspapers carry the AC column.
anyone here have lexis-nexis?
…Commonsense, that is so true about the scent etc…and I have tried to get mr paws to think like a rat but he just can’t and says stuff like: I will not climb into the crawl space and place a trap; or: there is only so far I will go with this rat business…but then, at night in bed, when the rats gnaw on the pipes and climb up the walls from the basement to the attic, he starts plotting new stuff..like: time to move, ms paws.
He is ready to move!!!!!
…and no, I will not go under this house, ever.
thanks et, but you guys make it easy here at late nite.
Suzanne @ 319
There is a link upthread to a CNN article that names a few corporations that have pulled their adds from her web site. I didn’t read through the entire article (the photo scared me) so not sure if they name any other corporations on her syndication list.
Spidey,
Once I rigged a trap that caused the door to slide shut only AFTER the animal was fully in the trap. I did this by, again, a little Rube Goldberg trick of triggering the sliding door to engage (drop into place) by having a hanging half-door of cardboard, well into the trap mind you, that the animal would have to brush past to reach the food/bait. It worked because the ‘trigger mechanism’ didn’t appear to represent a threat and the animal could still see the food. The half-door was attached to a line/pin that held the sliding door propped open.
Rats are smart, but they can’t balance a checkbook….or write peeved emails…
Jacqrat: you would know by getting a a chart cast and you can do that by going to one of the free astro websights and supplying your date of birth and time and place (don’t give your real name) then when they give you the erected chart, you can give me a link here and we shall see what we shall see…the full eclipsed moon is conjunct your natal sun so of course you would feel emotional.
spiderpaws @
297
spiderpaws, they are really that smart. Have you tried the Rat Zapper? I don’t know how many you have, but I caught about 12 of them before they caught on. It’s the most humane trap I could find other than catch and release, which I am just not up for –
BTW – I think that’s a 3, not a backward letter…
tbsa @ 322
Hmmmmm.
Someone mentioned upthread that this information is on its way to us.
You know, if she’d just aspirate on her own vomit (or someone else’s) and kick the bucket, she’d save us all a lot of fuss and bother.
I’ve been reading through the comments at TPM Muckraker’s article on the resignation of Michael Black at DOJ. He’s the guy who called most of the DOJ US Attorneys to tell them they were being fired. Let’s hope Mr. Black gets a subpoena. He emerged as being important Monday.
So much going down in the legal arena tomorrow, I can imagine hundreds or thousands of concerned people will be watching C-SPAN and simultaneously refreshing their laptop tuned to fdl about seven hours from now.
And I have to work.
Rat Zapper
Commonsense: I can see you have a lot of trapping experience and savy and your efforts and talent are much needed in the SF Bay area where you would be paid much $ to do this on a regular drive you crazy basis..in fact I have a job for you right now (no, not the rats).
Just curious but what are you doing with the trapped animals? Dare I ask?
TRex @
326
Oh now that’s a visual I needed!
dont forget the zig limit is 3
spiderpaws @ 324
Ok, I think this is what you mean.
Now everyone will know how age-inappropriate I am…
Alicia: I just sent the rat zapper link to mr paws, thanks…now tell me…are you saying rats figure it out that they will get electrocuted and stay out of this thing? wow
spiderpaws @ 323
Nor would I advise it. However, since of course you can’t go to the tunnels, construct one of your own. It’ll be new, dark, and will smell like food…an ideal place that a rat would love. Hell, a stretched-out slinky and a garbage bag would work, then put anything you like at the other end, like a trap. The more dark and less ability the rat has to identify danger, the better luck you will have. Putting traps anywhere ambient light can outline them is too risky. Even something the rat has to climb over to get to the food can serve as a perfect setup/trap.
If there’s, say, some metal device (no human scent remember) between the rat and the food…and the rat has no room to walk around it/them (you can position several spring traps end-to-end as a failsafe), he may try to crawl over whatever it is…then *snap*
Even a cardboard box fashioned with sheer sides and a narrow passageway will work. Rats can jump, but they have to land sometime. Keep it dark. Think of it as a logic test.
It is my hope that Coultergeist will become poison to any advertiser on the face of the earth. So long as there is one entity willing to give that slithering vile bitch a voice she will continue to spew. It’s interesting to me that a so called “woman” her age who has never been married trots around calling married men “faggot.” Project much lil annie?
Suzanne @ 319
I asked if anyone had access to a list of her newspapers earlier today (on a Jane trial thread, where I knew all the big brains and research-happy people would see it). Told them to fwd the list to TRex or you, Suzanne.
Ed*ard Teller @ 330
Uh, that’s Mike Battle, isn’t it?
spiderpaws @ 333
That’s my guess – maybe my batteries ran out :) but I know they are smart as can be. Dry dog food is good bait. Maybe they can smell the other dead rats – I don’t know. The Rat Zapper is excellent, though – I really recommend it over anything else on the market. For us, the cats do the trick, but that’s not always the right answer. Good luck, Spiderpaws!
TRex @ 241
YAY !!!
spiderpaws @ 332
Sure…the feral cat I caught was “marking” my kitchen. (I lost a handtowel and hot mat.) I had the cat ‘fixed’ at the local shelter for about $15.00, then released him. (No, the cat was far too feral to be kept and I couldn’t bear to leave his fate to the shelter, which surely would have had to euthanize him.) So, since he appeared capable of taking care of himself, I just made sure there wouldn’t be any more out there. *never saw him again* :D
As far as rodents, I had an apartment in the city and very seldom a mouse would find his way into the building. It was a logic puzzle to fashion some device to catch the mouse unawares. Sometimes I heard a mouse and just systematically enclosed his “running” space with leftover wood paneling until I had him/her cornered. I caught them and released them a ways in the country.
midnight here – I’ll be seeing y’all in Gabbly tomorrow bright and early!
Madness!
Alicia @ 341
Good night, Alicia.
*smooch*
Sweet dreams.
BTW, I ponied up for the entire Lily Allen album at iTunes and I looooove it.
Late here. Thanks for the column TRex! Good luck Spidey. Hope you found something useful in them posts!
Thanks for that, Nate.
commons3nse: I plan to show your comments to mr paws tomorrow…he will like this kind of thinking.
Jacqrat: you have a stellium in libra and your natal venus is conjunct your natal jupiter – very fortunate, in your 4th house of domestic affairs (where the previous eclipse was on Saturday)…now there is something else you must be ready for…you will be having the next eclipse (of the sun in Pisces) at the top of your chart on your midheaven – where the world sees you. Maybe you want to stay home that day and meditate – Sunday March 18th at 7:43 PM but the entire day will be like you are walking arorund with christmas lights on spelling – look at me.
Time for me to call it a night also. Have an early showing* of the little cottage by the creek in the redwoods tomorrow morning and I still have floors to clean.
*early is defined as anything before the crack of noon
All our best wishes for a speedy recovery, Mr. Vice President
;>)
Oh, good lord, it’s 3:00am. I should go to bed.
You know, I finished the Pickwick Papers and started The Concrete Blonde by Michael Connelly. The same night I bought that book I got “Little Dorritt” by Dickens and even though I just finished one Dickens, I just want to go back to 19th century London rather than Connelly’s bleak late 90’s L.A..
Is that such a crime?
I’m too fond of books and it has warped my thinking.
montag @ 337
Yeah. Blew it again. I blew it last night by starting the theme that Sun Myung Moon owns the syndicate which distributes Coulter’s trash. Missouri bird corrected me after I went to bed with:
Don’t confuse Universal Press Syndicate with UPI. The syndicate, which is owned by a good guy, is not affiliated with Moon. The man who edits Ann Coulter also edits(or edited) “Boondocks.”
I apologized here during the day, and do so again. Not to Moon or Coulter, but to youse guys…
The Concrete Blonde is one of my favs, TRex. g’nite all.
spiderpaws @ 346
Ok I will have to read this over a few times before I can begin to grasp it. You act as if having christmas lights on spelling “look at me!” is a bad thing….?
Suzanne @ 351
I just don’t know if I’m up for L.A.’s mean streets right now. I’d rather scuttle over the slimy cobbles of Tom-All-Alone’s in the East End. Drink negus with a coupla loikly lads. Maybe see a ghost or two.
I’m addicted to Dickens. It’s an affliction.
Suzanne…good luck with the showing
TRex: Bleak House is my favorite of all time…Mr. Talkinghorn and all the rest…Shape Me Up
spiderpaws @ 354
Yeah!
Spiderpaws, spiderpaws
She’s attuned to the astral laws
Reads your chart
Sees the truth
She’s our own
sayer of sooth,
Look out!
Here’s comes the spiderpaws!
On the late nite threads,
when the party’s getting loud
like a wisp of smoke
or when the moon
peeks through the cloooouds,
Look out!
Here comes the spiderpaaaaawwwws!!
Whoo-hooo!
I’ll be here all week!
Well Jacqrat…it is an eclipse. a blocking of the suns energy and maybe you won’t have all your magical powers so best to cover your light that day
spiderpaws @ 355
“Mr. Guppy, are you quite comfortable?”
“Oh, I’m never that!“
spiderpaws @ 357
Thank you so much for the reading, Spider.
And T- thanks for the hug and the better spiderpaws song. I didn’t have the oomph to write a good one.
Gosh, didn’t anybody like my song?
yes, a sayer of sooth, thank you
TRex @ 360
“Love it. It’s hot.”
TRex @ 360
Actually, quite clever!
spiderpaws @ 361
Good enough for me.
*g*
Okay, really. You’ve been a great crowd. Thank you so much.
Good night!
TRex @ 360
I liked it a lot, but I’m sulking in the corner.
I think it’s only us here now TRex and yes, a vurry good song…by the way, if you like Dickens you may like Vikkram Seth’s “A Suitable Boy”.
Ed*ard Teller @ 365
There’s a pun in there somewhere, I’m sure of it.
Why are you sulking, ET? Come out kitty kitty
Ed*ard Teller @ 365
WHY?!?!?! ((((((((edward)))))))))
I feel honored that I’ve had poems, puns and songs written about my posts – and my name. You all are so wonderful.
spiderpaws @ 357
Okay, I’m still trying to figure out what you meant when you told me “…it’s ALL there for you jacqrat”
when you consulted the symbols of the ancients on my last bday
g’nite you wonderful ‘pups!
Night, TSF
spiderpaws @ 358
I read it in graduate school (which is now thousands of years ago), but, I do recall that it was the first novel I’d ever read which included the sly suggestion of spontaneous combustion of a human being….
SteveAudio @ 370
Better sulking in the corner than skulking in the Corner….
Indeed.
spiderpaws @ 368
meow. I hate it when I present inaccurate information anywhere. This is an important place to me. If I f*ck up and turn somebody’s name into a malaprop or jump to a conclusion – as in the syndicate which distributes that bitch we obsessed over last night – it makes statements I’ve made here that were true, but hard to digest, less credible. That’s all.
…in Bleak House, the geezer in the wheel chair who instructed his attendant to “Shape Me Up” and the combustion guy, all too wonderful…
Ed*ard Teller @ 377
I find you quite credible, if that means anything. In fact, you are “the very pineapple of politeness”.
Thanks for the tips! I love them! Here is a letter I wrote but never sent when our local paper uncovered a story about the local public hospital and how they had installed a system whereby they could do credit checks on the poor to make sure they were really poor ~ but not tell them they were doing it:
Dear Editor:
10 years ago my employment used insurers for a hospital that was near Harborview who evidently assumed a family’s big night out would be waiting in a sparse waiting room on a Saturday night with nothing but a torn financial magazine, a broken Tonka toy and a fish tank. This insurance company complained that families were “abusing” their coverage by over-using the emergency room as if we plotted for ways we could jack up their costs. I wanted to tell them that I confess, they were right, a Saturday night with a sick kid gasping for breath and a temperature of 102, oh yeah, it was like going to Disney Land all right. I could hardly wait for that quality family time to come around again so I could “abuse” my insurance.
Soooo, now Harborview is checking low income patient’s credit to see if they are really poor. As if the poor would lie about being poor or the well to do would want to come to Harborview because they are too cheap to visit the doctor they know and can afford. Harborview admits with this new system in place, it shows that a huge percentage, 73%, are not lying. If we had a national health care system in place, Harborview would not need to do this and they would have enough staff, enough beds and enough medical care to care for whomever came to them without such nonsense.
Meanwhile corporations are resisting national health care for reasons that are a mystery to me. Instead of enjoying the benefits millions of enlightened citizens and businesses do in other parts of the world, they foolishly resist this idea while taking their employment opportunities overseas in droves. Or they refuse to cover their workers because of the rampant runaway of health care costs, so they say. The taxes corporations should pay anyway for being allowed to BE corporations along with a modest contribution from workers, could in tandem cover the costs and it is a win-win situation for all
The problems being illustrated around Harborview’s attempts to cover costs proves the desperate need for a better health care system. When oh when are we going to get national health care in place?
Cat In Seattle
(address and phone included)
So whaddaya think? Help me hone this to the fine points you made in your post. I could use the practice.
Cat
..well every now and then I make a mistake in interpretation of a chart and that is very serious to me so I know how you feel but hey! you just have to get over it, Dude!!!!!
Good night everyone. Sleep well. Watch out for those pork chops hanging outside.
Spidey said “dude”.
what DOES Spiderpaws really mean? I mean, why did you choose it?
Cat In Seattle @ 380
did TRex cover how long the sentences should be? They’re pretty long. 39 years ago, when I drove a medical supply delivery truck between Harborview, University Hospital, Marine Hospital ( USPHS Hospital, by the bridge to Beacon Hill) and the VA hospital, we called Harborview “King County Zoo.” Some things never seem to change.
Cat in Seattle: I think TRex has gone to bed but I would like to say I enjoyed your letter. And I agree we should not be putting health care costs on business’s backs but have a national plan…I have no health insurance and go to a community clinic where I wait in line behind dozens of spanish speaking Latino women with sick children. There are no white women there (educated) with purple stripes in their hair. I can’t seem to get any other doctors offices to see me. when they ask if I have insurance and I say no, they refuse to see me even tho I assure them, I will be paying cash, on the spot. It is disgusting. I get 15 frantic minutes with my overworked doctor. Fortunately I never seem to get sick so I seldom have to go there but when I do I am amazed at the dozens and dozens of people trying to get in.
spiderpaws @ 385
wait. you have purple stripes in your hair? My health clinic sounds like yours, but i also have many East Asians with lots of kids, and their husbands, usually a grandparent or two as well.
{{{{spiderpaws}}}} nite all
Gotta write a test to see if 130 college kids can tell the difference – when listening – between Beethoven’s 5th Symphony, Schubert’s “Erlkonig,” Schumann’s “Carnaval” and a surprise example from the same period. Maybe an example by Schumann’s wife Clara, who was a better composer.
the purple stripes got me out of jury duty this morning along with my “no whining” pin…it was a boring accident case between a BMW and a mercedes…the jury guy just pointed at the door ; )
I think all these clinics are basically the same with the nationalities a little different depending what side of the bay you are on
Night!
Yeah I think they still call it a zoo, but nowdays since Harborview has gotten all that grant money and affiliates itself with the UW and all, they are more like the San Diego Zoo.
And yeah that first sentence was waaay too long all right ~ in this comment as well as the letter, lol. I wonder how I could chop thast up better? hmmmmmmm (tapping pencil on nose).
Mornin’.
Taylor Marsh has the video of Senator Webb on Hardball.
Topics: VA medical treatment; his new bill forbidding Bush to declare war on Iran without the consent of Congress.
More like this please.
In Baghdad, books can get you killed….
what up
sporkovat @
125
How many of your fellow concerned constituents would vote Republican to ensure that the U.S. didn’t attempt to rescue the people of Darfur from mass rape, murder and ethnic cleansing by an illegal war of aggression?
Where is this law BTW that we can all see for ourselves?
I would be so happy if you could help this extremely confused person, who even thought the former CIA asset, Saddam Hussein once beloved of Dubya’s father, was not a martyr considering his crimes against humanity.
Thank you in advance for any aid you can render. I cannot somehow get it out of my head that ridding a people of tyranny is a bad thing of itself.
Down with Lafayette. No wonder we hate the French so.
Kindly note I did not say I supported our own present tyrant nor his mass killings nor his illegal usurpation of power. Does that make me illegal too?
Best, Terry
“Walter Reed Veteran Neglect Time Line” in draft form at oldamericancentury.org.
I didn’t know the woman ejected from SOTU was the wife of the Congressman who quit visiting WR because they weren’t listening to complaints.
Privatization turns out to be a huge factor. Yay Halliburton, once again.
Court weather for today:
Current temp 19F
High of 34F, winds 20-30mph.
Tomorrow a tad warmer, inch of snow.
Bundle up folks!
Raven how’s your father in law doing with his recovery from heart surgery?
((((((((((egregious))))))))))
egregious @
398
Hey EG. They moved him from cardiac icu (or recovery)to another room so we assume that is progress. Blood sugar seems to be fluctuating some and, depending on the doctor, it’s ok or something to be concerned about. I came back to Georgia for a while thinking I may be needed again down the road. Thx, again!
Good morning, pups. It’s only Nicholas Kristof in the NYT today, with nice things to say about Barack Obama.
http://mgpaquin.blogspot.com/
Coffee and tea are ready, and raisin toast. Help yourselves, and have a wonderful day.
Raven—
Sounds good, if they’re able to move him out of the ICU. There are always things to monitor postop.
Hope you can get back to a little bit of normal life. At least until the verdict today.
[crossing fingers, toes, eyes]
newspaperbrat—
Back atcha. Thx. Things look better today. Of course it’s only 6am.
TRex,
The part about mind games was wicked. I love it.
Ana Marie Cox on Imus just now reporting that she “learned” yesterday that Haliburton was involved in the Walter Reed mess. Better late then ever I guess.
Mornin’ all!
9 U.S. Soldiers killed in Iraq bombing
Good Morning, Firepups,
Clear and bitter cold in central Jersey this morning. Everyone needs to bundle up before heading out. This is the morning to wear your hat and your warmest gloves.
Coffee’s hot and strong. Pour yourself a cup, and have some nice warm biscuits.
Mr. NJP is starting a peace blog! He’s not quite ready to go public, but the focus will be how to communicate effectively with elected officials, to make ending the war in Iraq happen, to prevent another war of aggression with Iran. Needless to say, I am very proud of him.
Work for peace, every day.
Good Morning Firepups,
thanks for that timeline egregious.
computer is misbehavin’ will have to restart, cross your fingers, hopefully back in a minute
twolf1 @ 407
Will the international nightmare that is Bush/Cheney ever end? While we’re all awaiting Fitzmas day would it not be a good idea to initiate serious impeachment coalitions within the netroots?
US Attorney firings story on CNN now…
More right wing flacks on Imus, Ana Marie Cox, Frank Rich and Oliphant!
newspaperbrat @ 410
do you know what’s going on in the new mexico legislature? last friday they were supposedly in discussion about this. something similar is happening in vermont and some other states. let’s rack up the pressure …..
I’m Jonesin for the Ladies of the Lake!
egregious @ 392
Thanks for the link, egregious.
Yes, please. We need many more like Jim Webb. As the other Dems continue to disappoint, Jim Webb continues to impress.
Frank Rich on Imus this morning discussing today’s Senate hearings about Walter Reed. And during the conversation Rich reminded Imus about the vitriole and pillorying directed at Dana Priest by Cheney and Limbaugh and Hannity and Co. They’d have put her in Gitmo, from their bile.
Where are they now? Silent. Rich notes Fox is still giving more air to AN.
Would be an interesting project to look at the arc of Priest’s incredible reporting during this war. Especially a collection of the “best of” from the ilk of Chee-knee, Limppeter and the Faux Irish Thug when she reported on the Eastern European prisons.
Can there be any ignoring why a free press was the First Amendment.
[for Instant Replay, go to the wfan.com homepage and scroll down to “Instant Replay” in the left column]
i’m back to answer my own question:
new mexico is pressing ahead with a vote to request the u.s. house to bring a bill of impeachment against bush and cheney. any interested parties can read about it at democracyfornewmexico.com
new thread
Your post brought me out of lurking mode to tell you about our angry letter writing group at church. Our church is small and elderly. Physically there’s real limits to what they can do. But they can all write a letter. So I formed this group not quite 2 years ago. Jim Bunning and Mitch McConnell must think there’s a lot of angry little ol’ ladies living up in northern kentucky :)
How satisfying it is to have two women tell me that they wrote their elected officials for the first time in their 80 years of living. One woman told me she didn’t know why she never thought to do this before. I guess you really are never to old to learn a new trick.
Thanks for all you do here.
What time is it in libbyville and when does today’s session start? I’m norwegian and figuring out timezones always gives me a headache.
TRex, you are a genius. I am only afraid you give too much away.
Ott @ 420
Right now it’s 9am in Washington, eastern standard time. We are 5 hours behind Greenwich and I believe 6 behind you in Norway.
Hey come on upstairs to the next thread. Court’s about to begin!
TRex, thanks
fun read and inspiring–I’ve grown tired of my own ‘one-night-stand though satistfying’ email writing, and babbling, rabid phone calls to congress. I’ll take you’re advice and get out some stamps!
EvilDrPuma @
72
With 423 (or so) comments, I know this is way EPU’d, but I had to say something and acknowledge a very valuable post.
Trex, this is a very great lesson and I humbly accept your wisdom with which I vow that I will go forth and try to do better.
The words I always use(d) are(were) “You f*****g a******s finally did it this time…” From your succinct comments I can see that has to come to a halt.
Again, I marvel at your wit and droll snarkey humor.
egregious @
422
Waving at egregious…
TRex, a true grammar geek would not mix singulars with plurals.
TRex,
I am EPU’d into a truly alternate universe, but here’s my first crack at a letter. I had to e-mail it because it’s time-critical. I’ll follow it up with pen and paper later.
Tucker Carlson seems to think none of us know his daddy paid for Scooter’s defense. It’s time to right that wrong.
-S
>Dear Mr. Abrams,
I am watching Tucker Carlson’s coverage of the Scooter Libby case, and frankly, I’m concerned. I expect sourced, factual reporting from MSNBC, not conjecture.
Have you, or any member of your staff, asked Mr. Carlson if he made a financial contribution to Scooter Libby’s defense fund? Considering the fact that his father was responsible for establishing the fund, Mr. Carlson should, at the least, be asked if he has made contribution to it. I believe that his failure to disclose the fact that a member of his immediate family is responsible for the funding of Mr. Libby’s defense compromises him as a journalist, and by extension, your network.
Thank you in advance for any response.