
(Photo credit to Jason Reed/Reuters via MSNBC.)
Earlier in the week, the WaPo had an astounding article. You may recall that there have been mass firings of United States Attorneys around the country, including two that had ongoing investigations into public corruption by Republican members of Congress?
Well, it seems that a third member of the class of slaughtered US Attorneys may have also been fired in retaliation for his ethical conduct during a public corruption investigation.
David C. Iglesias, the recently fired US Attorney in New Mexico, had an open public corruption investigation into a Democratic member of the state legislature. He reports receiving calls from two Republicans from the Hill, asking him to speed up the investigation so he could indict before the November Elections.
A political tempest over the mass firing of federal prosecutors escalated yesterday with allegations from the departing U.S. attorney in New Mexico, who said that two members of Congress attempted to pressure him to speed up a probe of Democrats just before the November elections.
David C. Iglesias, who left yesterday after more than five years in office, said he received the calls in October and believes that complaints from the lawmakers may have led the Justice Department to fire him late last year.
Evidently, Iglesias did not allow political pressure to alter the timetable of the investigation and is now paying the price. It should be noted that he made a mistake in not reporting these contacts to DOJ, but honestly now, in his shoes would you paint a target on your own back and “out” yourself to Alberto by alerting him to the fact that you have some ethics and scruples? Come on!
So who are these lawmakers that thought they had the right to interfere with an ongoing criminal investigation? Inquiring minds want to know. Actually, Dan Eggen of WaPo gets a shout out for trying to nail down that little tidbit.
Spokesmen for Rep. Steve Pearce (R-N.M.) and the state's two Democratic lawmakers, Sen. Jeff Bingaman and Rep. Tom Udall, said the lawmakers and their staffs had no contact with Iglesias about the case. The offices of New Mexico's two other Republican lawmakers, Sen. Pete V. Domenici and Rep. Heather A. Wilson, did not respond to repeated requests for comment.
Supposedly, there are hearings scheduled for Tuesday and several of the fired US Attorneys will be subpoenaed for them. Iglesias's allegations were met with strong denials from the Justice Department, but prompted the Democratic-controlled House and Senate judiciary committees to announce that they would issue subpoenas for testimony from Iglesias and other fired prosecutors if necessary. Iglesias said he would not testify unless subpoenaed. (Looks like it was necessary. Good for Sen. Pat Leahy.)
I have a heads up for those committees: DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT THIS MASS SLAUGHTER OF 8 US ATTORNEYS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS ADMINISTRAION HAS GOTTEN RID OF A PROSECUTOR FOR POLITICAL REASONS?
Here’s an idea for you. Subpoena every US attorney that left office during the Shrubya Administration and ask him or her what Karl Rove’s involvement was. Just for fun.
CHS adds, because these firings make me more and more angry by the day:
Talking Points Memo has more here and here. The Muck has much, much more here. And the NYTimes has more today, including the following:
After Daniel G. Bogden got the call in December telling him that he was being dismissed as the United States attorney in Nevada, he pressed for an explanation.
Mr. Bogden, who was named the top federal prosecutor in Nevada in 2001 after 11 years of working his way up at the Justice Department, asked an official at the agency’s headquarters if the firing was related to his performance or to that of his office. “That didn’t enter into the equation,” he said he was told.
After several more calls, Mr. Bogden reached a senior official who offered an answer. “There is a window of opportunity to put candidates into an office like mine,” Mr. Bogden said, recalling the conversation. “They were attempting to open a slot and bring someone else in.”…
Summoning five of the dismissed prosecutors for hearings on Tuesday, the newly empowered Congressional Democrats have charged that the mass firing is a political purge, intended to squelch corruption investigations or install less independent-minded successors.
Interviews with several of the prosecutors, Justice Department officials, lawmakers and others provide new details and a fuller picture of the events behind the dismissals. Like Mr. Bogden, some prosecutors believe they were forced out for replacements who could gild résumés; several heard that favored candidates had been identified.
Other prosecutors may have been vulnerable because they had had run-ins with the Justice Department, not over corruption cases against Republicans, but on less visible issues….
Some said they suspected that the administration hoped to install its favorites in the jobs, as they did when J. Timothy Griffin, a prosecutor who had worked for Karl Rove, the White House political adviser, was chosen as the temporary replacement for H. E. Cummins III of Arkansas. Mr. Cummins was told last summer to step down after Harriet E. Miers, the former White House counsel, met with Mr. Gonzales’s staff on Mr. Griffin’s behalf.
Even Republicans who are generally supportive of the administration expressed skepticism about the Justice Department’s explanations.
Go and read the entire NYTimes article. It is infuriating. Patronage, anyone?
And a huge thank you to LHP for putting this together for us. Because I know the misuse of public trust ticks her off as much as it does me. — CHS
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MARCY!!!
Plamehouse Rock!
Rugby is for Lovers
Additional Christylisciousness, too!
Props to LOOSEHEADPROPok, first
This whole Bush outfit is like ‘the hole in the wall gang’. And Bush is Jesse James, with less ethics.
fitz!!
John Mitchell. Alberto Gonzales. Which is worse? Of course we do have Kent State. But we also have Abu Ghraib.
Geronimo!
Hush, little baby, don’t say a word,
Daddy’s going to buy you a mockingbird.
And if that mockingbird don’t sing,
Daddy’s going to buy you a diamond ring.
And if that diamond ring turns brass,
Daddy’s going to buy you a looking glass.
And if that looking glass gets broke,
Daddy’s going to buy you a billy goat.
And if that billy goat won’t pull,
Daddy’s going to buy you a cart and bull.
And if that cart and bull turn over,
Daddy’s going to buy you a dog named Rover.
And if that dog named Rover won’t bark,
Daddy’s going to buy you a horse and cart.
And if that horse and cart fall down,
You’ll still be the sweetest little baby in town.
According to Carl Bernstein, over 400 reporters were working for the CIA as part of Operation Mockingbird. These include, but are not limited to:
CBS (William S. Paley)
Chattanooga Times (Charles Bartlett)
Christian Science Monitor (Joseph Harrison)
Copley News Services (James Copley)
Louisville Courier-Journal (Barry Bingham, Sr.)
The Miami News (William C. Baggs, Herb Gold, Hal Hendrix)
Newsweek (Ben Bradlee)
New York Herald Tribune (Stewart Alsop)
New York Times (Arthur Hays Sulzberger)
Time Magazine (Alfred Friendly, Charles Douglas Jackson, Henry Luce)
Washington Post (Walter Pincus)
Washington Star (Jerry O’Leary)
George Bush, worst president in History.
Alberto Gonzalez,_____________.
Fill in the blank…
“Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We’re finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.
Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?
Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We’re finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio
Four dead in Ohio
Four dead in Ohio
Four dead in Ohio
Four”
Bil @ 8
chicken leg?
Accountability? How can I expect that from the Republicans? I can’t even get accountability from my own party. Like in Lieberman.
We can be sure our fightin Dems won’t take this sitting down. They’ll stand.
Thanks as ever LHP. Hope you continue to write front pagers for FDL. Please?
More than one way to obstruct justice? Indeed.
I wonder what number we would reach if we started counting ALL the ways that BushCo. has obstructed justice.
Update from WaPo’s Eggen today: it is Domenici
I’m anxious to hear from Carol Lam of San Diego. (Cunningham)
Are the hearings on Tuesday public?
What is so stupid is that these party loyalists would probably have left quietly if they had just been asked nicely. Instead, they were force out abruptly under the ambiguous cloud of “performance issue, a smear against their professionalism. This seems to be why Iglesia is so mad. I heard him on NPR and he was pissed, but it seems his anger was because he was smeared. He even said that if they had quietly told him to find another job, he would have done that and left quietly.
I’m not sure what a petard is or how one hoists one’s self on their own petard but I think we’re seeing it.
BTW, the libby trial coverage has been great, thanks so much to all.
LHP
I’m looking forward to the hearings on these firings. I’m so paranoid, I think they are just setting the scene for when they cancel the 2008 elections.
Josiah Bartlett @ 16
I’ll say this much, it stinks!
i’ve forgotten (if i ever knew)… who was the congressional aide who got the provision for “interm” appointments into the patriot act renewal bill?
lhp, thanks so much, this is a seminal issue imho.
Isn’t one of the salient issues that the WH has circumvented the normal Congressional approval required for the replacements USA’s? It looks like a naked institutional attempt to further weaken the Judicial branch, knowing that this will further dilute the separation of powers?
selise @ 19
Specktor
Selise – some Specter lemming
Most of America is now against the Iraq War. Most of the Democrats oppose the Iraq War. Based on her record on Iraq, can someone explain why Hillary is even in the race for the presidential nomination? Let alone being the so called front runner? It’s all so beyond me.
John Conyers will be stirring the pot this week. This will keep bubbling for a long time until Alberto is nothing but bones. It wiil be served to Bush who will gag on it then retch all over the place.
Get out the popcorn!!!
David Ehrenstein @
9
OK That’s copyrighted. I’m calling Neil. Actually, I’ll just email him (or Pegi).
I’m sure he’d be pleased.
Are there any laws that explicitly say that Gonzales can’t do this?
Max Blumenthal’s video from CPAC is priceless. Mike Stark also did some good work.
More like this, please, as the saying goes.
The SOTUS is ‘packed’. The federal judiciary is ‘packed’. *g*.
A new phrase has emerged in the justifications for these firings: “policy performance issues.” The USAs weren’t fired for performance, really; they weren’t fired for policy, either.
I think it means that the USAs did not (or would not) perform in a way aligned with policies to be pursued in the second Bush term. I hope someone asks what policies, or future policies, the fired USAs were unwilling to perform.
Also, it sounds like Comey didn’t like having his name linked to these firings, even as a “consult:”
Yeah, Congress has to recover some of it’s “institutional pride” (stole that from John Dean) aka separation of powers and revoke those “interim” replacements.
Looseheadprop, you RAWK.
The former US Attorney for Western Washington, John McKay, is also supposed to testify. The rumors here state that he was relieved of his duties over his refusal to open an investigation into the 2004 gubernatorial election, in which Christine Gregoire was certified the winner after three recounts and winning by less than 1000 votes. Guess which party Governor Gregoire belongs to?
I can’t wait to hear what he has to say, and I can’t wait to read another great LHP/Christy post on these matters…
-S
Oklahoma kiddo @ 28
the media is packed, too
Dahlia Lithwick has a good take here, via TPM.
http://www.slate.com/id/2160965/
thanks Elliott @ 21 and cbl @ 22
i’d love know who gave the spector lemming the idea to include it…
I love how the Bushies were so brazen that they actually *told* the USAs why they were being fired.
I guess they figured it’d never get reported, since 95% of the time they’d be right.
Balrog @
27
True. http://thinkprogress.org/
selise @ 34
I seem to recall something about the Specter staffer being some kind of Republican operative mole that Specter was pressured into hiring, but I can’t remember the specifics.
Needless to say, Specter was outraged, like he always is when the Bushies usurp power, and did nothing, like he always does when the Bushies usurp power (except when he actively facilitates it).
THIS JUST IN
Bob Hattoy is dead
Yes Virginia, people are still dying of AIDS. Just a lot slower and we’re a whole lot quieter about it than we were back in the day.
selise @ 34
Now that you mention it, so would I.
Specktor owed BushCo for helping him get re-elected. Maybe a price he had to pay?
TSF at 4:23, thanks for the WaPo link. There are four pages of comments. All that I read, really supported the article. Anyone who has time, is invited to show Dan Eggen, the author, some support.
A novel application of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act in an obstruction of justice case (in case this link is broken because of its length, please copy and paste it in the appropriate dialog box for entering Web addresses using your favorite Web browser):
http://finance.myway.com/jsp/n…..;news_id=a
p-d8nlhadg1&date=20070304&alias=/alias/money/cm/nw
From Novak via Muckkraker:
“Rep. Rahm Emanuel, House Democratic Caucus chairman, had written Gonzales two letters suggesting that he name Carol Lam, fired as U.S. attorney in San Diego, as an outside counsel to continue her pursuit of the Duke Cunningham case. Asked by Melissa Charbonneau of the Christian Broadcasting Network about this column’s report that Gonzales did not respond, Gonzales said: “I think that the American people lose if I spend all my time worrying about congressional requests for information, if I spend all my time responding to subpoenas.”
We need a concerted campaign to remove Gonzales from office. Let impeachment start here.
It was the right-wing operative who was put on Specter’s staff as a condition of his becoming Chair of the Judiciary. Remember when Specter got mouthy just after his 2004 reelection and said some things about anti-abortion judges that caused some Republicans to demand that he be denied the Judiciary Chair? He agreed to accept this staffer as a price of getting the job, to keep an eye on him from inside the Committee.
I read earlier today (backtracking to see if I can find the link) that Gonzales is refusing to respond to congressional subpoenas because he’s . . . . wait for it . . . too busy.
He thinks the American people would be better served if he weren’t tied up with these petty requests. Will be back with the link ASAP.
Evening Firedogs,
Ed*ard Teller, if you are about, left you a note downstairs -
Noted Film Historian David Ehrenstein – the stench reminds me so much of the scenes at Court in Russell’s The Devils,
Oklahoma kiddo @ 28 & Elliott @ 32, sorry to be crude, but when I was an RN, ‘packed’ meant so full of hardened shit, it had to be dug out. So I think it is an appropriate word for the SCOTUS, judiciary in general, and the MSM.
selise @ 34
gonzalez via Domenici.
Reminds me of a neato Obama/?? project for a (public?) database on bills that would help lawmakers KNOW what the hell they’re voting on and who the hell sticks this kind of crap in them. Anybody have more on that?
The Specter staffer, from Conason by way of spork:
jl @
7
Thanks for the Wikipedia link. It filled in a lot of things I had wondered about all my life.
Eli @ 37
I didn’t realize he blamed it on an operative forced upon him, that changes everything — not
David Ehrenstein @ 38
goddamn it
Bil @
8
Smirking schmuck.
Ah, it was in a Robert Novak (?!?!) column posted by David Derbes in comments over at Eschaton:
PROBING GONZALES
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales has indicated he is too busy to answer letters from Democratic congressional leaders about his firing seven U.S. attorneys involved in probes of public corruption, though a lower-level Justice Department official rejected their proposals. Rep. Rahm Emanuel, House Democratic Caucus chairman, had written Gonzales two letters suggesting that he name Carol Lam, fired as U.S. attorney in San Diego, as an outside counsel to continue her pursuit of the Duke Cunningham case. Asked by Melissa Charbonneau of the Christian Broadcasting Network about this column’s report that Gonzales did not respond, Gonzales said: “I think that the American people lose if I spend all my time worrying about congressional requests for information, if I spend all my time responding to subpoenas.”
Richard A. Hertling, the acting Justice Department lobbyist, responded Wednesday, 22 days after Emanuel’s letter. He contended “the Justice Department would not ever seek the resignation of a U.S. attorney if doing so would jeopardize a public corruption case” and rejected naming Lam as a special prosecutor.
Elliott @ 50
Arlen really wants people to go on thinking he’s a moderate, and a staunch defender of the Constitution, when he’s really one of the biggest right-wing tools of them all.
Although off topic, I thought that this would be worth mentioning now:
http://finance.myway.com/jsp/n…..oney/cm/nw
Water Tiger:
I left the quote at 42.
JML @ 42
he’s got to go first
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 55
So who are they looking to sell it to, Murdoch or Scaife?
The most insulting thing here is that they think we are all so freaking STUPID, we’ll just buy whatever they say. No questions asked. No chance two or more people would dare get together and discuss their creepy feelings about what’s going on. 1984.
They assume everyone is as corrupt as they are. They Bible thump, and at the same time commit murder, theft, fraud, perjury-you name it. And they can apparently can sleep at night. It’s not NORMAL! (I’d have to check with Egregious on that, though).
It’s all so revolting that it may actually take a revolt if the democrats don’t get crackin’.
ah, whoops!
i’m just as slow in meatspace.
JML @ 42
Actually, I think the American people lose when the Attorney General finds time to appear on CHRISTIAN radio network programs, but that’s just me being silly.
John Casper @ 30
So, how does Arlen Specter live with himself? He let the WH slip in a provision that aleviates the need to get these replacement confirmed.
last time I checked, responding to a subpoena wasn’t an “well, only if you feel like it” kind of thing.
watertiger @ 63
Ah, but you’re not the government. Or a Republican.
watertiger @ 60
no, it’s just that the Prince of Darkness evades us dfh’s so well….
Arlen Specter says it’s one of his assistants who put that AG wording into the bill. Congress should subpoena both Specter and the assistant, if there really is an assistant to inserted the wording.
Why WOULD some flunky do that? Sounds to me more like the creepy Arlen. I remember him during the confirmation hearings on Clarence Thomas, for Supreme Court. Specter treated Anita Hill rudely, with disdain and sneering. He hasn’t changed.
cbl @
45
cbl,
just got in from outdoors. Thanks. I looked at Perlstein’s book when it came out, at the local college lbrary, and didn’t get it. I’ll keep it in mind after I finish Fisk’s epic tome.
wigwam @ 62
Arlen lives with himself knowing full well that his NSA file, or that of a loved one he cares for, is not released to the public as long as he obeys AbuG.
If I don’t comply with a subpoena, a Judge holds me in contempt. If I still don’t comply, I’m in jail. I would so love to see Gonzales in a DC jail for contempt.
watertiger @ 63
Experience has shown them it is. Will the Dems allow precedent to stand or just eschew subpoenas so as not to press the point?
Eli @ 58
I’ve suggested the following possibility before – let’s see if we can convince George Soros to buy Diebold. The wingnutosphere would sure pay more attention to those pesky machines if George owned ‘em.
John Casper @ 69
I hope the Speaker has had time to attend to the necessary overhaul of the leadership of the Capitol Police from its recent cronies appointed by Hastert/Delay.
watertiger @ 4:45 pm
Here’s a link via HuffPo for anyone interested in reading the story you mentioned (with another mouthful of a link that may require copying and pasting):
http://www.unionleader.com/art…..ine=Robert D. Novak: Another Hillary defector&articleId=65463a14-f0a4-4663-9f46-1d5189c56100
Is there a nuclear option for subpoenas? Or resistance to thereof?
watertiger @ 63
yeah, I tried that, didn’t work. ;)
JML-
The Dems are getting a bit too “eschew you” for my taste.
JML @ 42
This man certainly seems too busy to do his job, so this is not the job for him. Poor thing.
MelodyMaker -
tying in nicely to the last thread – there is an org/thinktank for righties that serves virtually as a drive up window for Legist. critters at both state and fed levels – encountered them when researching the SD Rapist Bill of Rights last year – once I saw the abject speed bump who ’sponsored’ it knowing he couldn’t put a coherent sentence together even if it included ‘porkchop’
and now, arrrggghhh! am having a senior moment and can not recall the name – will do some digging for you if it doesn’t come up in this thread
jl @ 7
That’s only 16.
Ed*ard Teller @ 71
They’d never sell to him, but it sure would be fun watching the Republicans twisting themselves in knots trying to figure out how to outlaw Diebold e-voting while keeping ES&S e-voting legal…
TeddySanFran @ 68
Ahh, the advantages of archiving everybody’s phone calls and emails for years before anybody found out.
So whose office do we phone tomorrow morning for a response to this contempt?
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 73
Link didn’t work. It took me a long time to figure out that there is a way of doing links in FDL that gets around this problem. In reply box, click on link. Then paste actual link. You will then get another window where you can add your own text- like “link here”.
edit p.s.- automatic html.
karen allen @ 66
Why hasn’t this been investigated? What committee would oversee this sort of bs?
George Bush, worst president in History.
Alberto Gonzalez, his loyal stooge.
Mme Looseheadprop,
It is clear to me that Something Is Rotten in DOJ. I have no clue how we proceed to investigate this. Is there not a Dem committee that is charged with oversight of the Judiciary branch? (rhetorical question) Is so, do you have idea why they have not investigated this clear, obvious and *public* abuse?
Firedogs, pls consider this an open question.
I’m looking forward to the hearings on these firings. I’m so paranoid, I think they are just setting the scene for when they cancel the 2008 elections.
elliott@17:
Good, I’m not aloone with my tin foil chapeau!
I have been harping on this march towards cancelling the 08 elections since the stolen 04 election
But then last fall when Bush signed the Military Commissions act with a loophole which would allow Bush to suspend the posse comitatus act in the interest of “national security” I freaked. And no one seems to know who put it in at the last minute without congressional review. (I think Arlen Specter was the one who said he didn’t know how it got in the bill, someone find a link please…)
They are setting the stage, another false flg operation and boom, martial law declared. Bush even slipped during November saying how pleased he was that we went ahead with elections “during a time of war”. WTF? We must be vigilant and ready to don our Guy Fawkes masks!!!
Just a point of info regarding the NM/Iglesias story. The investigation may have to do with a FORMER state senator, not one currently serving.
The investigation (if we are to believe the most prominent supposition) has to do with kickbacks during the construction of a court house. There is a check with his first name in the “memo” line that was supposedly paid directly to the former Democratic politico.
The investigation has been going on a long time.
At the time, He/her Wilson was in a very tight battle for Congress with the state Atty General. There was another corruption case at the same time involving the state Treasurer, also a Democrat. He was tried twice, the first time had a hung jury, the second, a single conviction, for which he will do time.
There is more here. (scroll down)
And Domenici is claiming the performance issue was about immigration. . .no big scandals on that issue.
So Domenici (and He/her, who claims to have great “air force” values but has not fessed up to a call) will have some ’splainin’ to do, come Tuesday.
Josiah Bartlett @ 16
That, plus why do them in such a concentrated period. If the firings had been spaced out, no one would have noticed. And why wait so long to fire Lam? Shouldn’t she have been tossed long before her investigation got this far?
Great idea to subpoena everyone who’s left during W. Too bad it won’t happen.
As for petard, here’s wiki on the subject:
A petard was a medieval small bomb used to blow up gates and walls when breaching fortifications.
TeddySanFran @ 68
So the Bush White House operates like J. Edgar but on a much grander scale.
cbl @ 78
I’m having a moment myself because I don’t understand what you’re getting at re: SD. I’m in MN, so I hear a few things on Mpr. I looked at BO’s senate site and couldn’t find what I was after. I think he’s done some good b-p stuff with Lugar(?) on loose nukes.
(edited– ahh, speed bump. I get it)
valletta @ 87
Ooo, I heard that, too.
creeped me out at the time.
Bil @
8
IMPEACHED (From Howie at Downwithtyranny)
Gonzales says he’s too busy to respond to a subpoena from Congress.
Can Congress do anything about this?
Will they?
justintime @
94
…they will issue a non-binding subpoena
Iglesias may have his ethical tit in the wringer, too, unfortunately. Apparently, the rules of ethics of office require him to report any attempt(s) to politically influence an investigation, and he reported neither call.
Still, it’s not his failure that forms the basis for the complaint. That error lies with Domenici and Wilson, as it now appears.
The very interesting thing to come out recently as the Iglesias story unfolds is that Patricia Madrid, the state’s attorney general, who was running against Wilson, said that her office had attempted to prosecute the Democrats involved in taking kickbacks, but early in the process, the FBI and the USA’s office stepped in and took over the entire investigation from her office and effectively forced her out of any involvement in the case.
Then, Wilson hammered Madrid over and over during the campaign about doing nothing on the case, very strongly implying that she had failed to act for purely partisan reasons, when, in fact, she’d been prevented from doing anything by the feds.
Iglesias hasn’t said much of anything about why the feds took the case from the state. As with most of such cases, this is a lot stickier and more complicated than its outward appearance.
valletta @ 87
Why doesn’t anyone connect all of the dots? If I were planning a coup, …
twolf1 @ 95
How about a non-binding impeachment?
montag @
96
Why unfortunately? He’s a Puke!
wigwam @ 97
My dots, they are connected. And I live in Canada. I have floor space if you need it.
justintime @ 98
…It would be just like them to do that but i’d rather a binding one.
eCAHNomics @ 89
It was also a term for a “fart.”
MelodyMaker.
you aren’t having one of your own, it’s probably just my FDL shorthand
five will get you ten that these folks are often involved – they are usually busy putting together legistlation for the Mayberry Macchiavelians out there, but their grubby paws have been found all over certain, notorious ‘riders’ to bills
just one more example of the entrenched conservative infrastructure
American Legislative Exchange Council
ALEC
OT- I just got off the phone from a fundraising call from the DSCC and the guy said he’d heard a rumor that Lamont was getting funding from the Communist Party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was explaining why I wasn’t going to give them any $$$$$$$ and the one of the reasons had to do with Lieberman. That’s how the “Commie” rumor came up. Has anyone heard about that?
montag! As ever, an interesting comment. Would be good to know who those “Democrats” were, no?
montag @ 96
But who should he report it to?
The Justice Department, The Attorney General?
justintime @ 98
Non-binding resignation, ala Rumsfeld. Whose tit is in a ringer here? Gonzalez..Gonzalez…Gonzalez.
That puke has lied to the senate J committee more than twice. so, the constitution doesn’t grant any rights to anybody? huh? You?
Riesz Fischer @ 99
I say, unfortunately, only because it might be used against him to deflect attention from the main issue. That happens a lot these days, y’know. :)
Riesz Fischer @ 104
Geez! I wish you had recorded that conversation!!!
HotFlash @ 100
Thanks, we may need it!
Apocalypse Now – by Paul Slansky
good artlcle over at Ariana’s place.
(edited to include this:)
“George W. Bush (and Dick Cheney and Condoleezza Rice and Donald Rumsfeld and all of their minions) should have been taken out and publicly flogged the day that their failure to act on the C.I.A.’s “Bin Laden Determined To Strike Inside U.S.” memo was revealed. Not only did this not happen (though it’s such a pleasant fantasy), but there was NO OUTRAGE on the part of anyone in a position to point out how unacceptable it was that 3,000 people died a month after those who might very well have been able to prevent their deaths chose instead to shrug off the warnings and continue their summer vacations.”
selise @
19
A member of Senator Specters staff. Specter, when the story broke, claimed he had no idea. Which begs a few questions, imo. Was he fired? Why is any staffer allowed to insert law like this? Perhaps most importantly, Who asked this staffer to do it, and why?
HotFlash- you may have offered for more than you can manage!
Riesz Fischer @ 104
Couldn’t be a DSCC person.
John Dean thinks the impeachment process should start with Gonzales.
Impeachment of cabinet level on down requires only a simple majority in Congress.
Gonzales is pretty vulnerable all right.
And he’s just asking for it.
OT, from downstairs. . .I heard HRC from Selma today. Not sure if she was just a mite hysterical, trying to sound tough, or worst of all, trying to sound like she’s a sistah. I think the latter, yipes. Not working for me.
Hotflash,
You live in Vancouver? Are you an American expat?
You likey Canada?
Bravo, looseheadprop. I’d hoped this would get a lot more attention before Tuesday; I worry that there won’t be enough questions or the right questions asked while these USA’s are under oath.
Check your email, BTW.
Terry Olson @ 114
Are you joking? It sounded like a real fundraising call. He said they were getting matching funds and he knew how much I gave last year. It was a DSCC person.
RIESZ,
Why? What would be the purpose of this?
I would have asked “which communist party? the one in China that owns all our debt?”
bg @ 116
I did not hear her today, but have heard her do her “First Black First Lady” attempt. It’s painful and panderific.
TeddySanFran @ 122
Um, ew?
Veritas78 @ 43
I sure would like to get to the bottom of this since so many horrible things happened to our constitution on Specter and this persons watch.
Max certainly highlighted the Stars of Conservashitism on his video. Poor Michelle, and Horriblowitz, what jerks!
Riesz-
That DSCC person might have reading an editorial from the Waterbury CT Republican American, here
And, this is Greg Mitchell’s commentary (GM is editor of Editor& Publisher) here
That is the only google info I could come up with.
Not that that “explains” your phone call. As I said above, I wish you had recorded that conversation.
justintime @ 115
But that requires 51 in the Senate. JoeLie will never vote for impeachment, and Johnson is unable to vote for the near future. PLus, could a McConnell filibuster prevent the impeachment vote?
But John Dean is right. If Elliot Abrams had been impeached, he would not be running IranContra II out of the OVP right now.
Riesz Fischer @
119
DETAILS!!! Please, something is very not right here and it could be big.
Terry Olson @ 120
I guess to imply that the Democratic Party was right to back Lieberman against Lamont. I was pressing the point that Lieberman wasn’t a Democrat, and it wasn’t just a technicality– he lost the primary. He made a point of saying that he couldn’t remember where he’d heard it. I mean, are you really surprised that the Pukes would put out a rumor like that?
Eli: Um, ew?
That’s EEEEWWW!!
Riesz Fischer @ 119
Do you have the phone number on caller ID? can you Google it to see where it came from?
Could be very early dirty tricks. I suspect they are at it, having gotten far too many weird calls in the last two weeks.
Riesz- agree with HotFlash. You ought to follow up on this. Do you happen to remember the name of the person who called you? Stealth might be required, however….
Remember that the Supreme Court is packed with right-wingers. If Abu Gonzales is subpoenaed by Congress, he’ll just go to court to quash. Get it up to the Supremes, and it’s all gone.
Valley Girl @ 105
Not sure, but they’re at the bone of contention over the indictment under seal right now, I believe. Some have said “former” state senator, but, Manny Aragon owns a small construction (or concrete) business, I think, and he and the Senate minority leader (who’s a right-wing crazy) have clashed often… including a shoving match a few years ago in a hallway outside the Senate chamber (handily caught on surveillance camera) in which Aragon called this leader of the disloyal opposition a “nazi.” (Well, the guy, whose name I will not mention, is rather blond-haired and blue-eyed and slimily devious.)
Not sure about it all. Probably will have to wait for the indictment(s) to be unsealed, which, if there’s a new USA, will probably happen fairly soon. The various parts of this ongoing investigation have been pretty destructive in the Bernalillo County area, all around, though.
At the Santa Fe Museum of Art, there’s a permanent exhibit of Pat Oliphant’s sculpture and pastels, sketches, etc., because when he’s not cartooning, he’s in Santa Fe. One is a large pastel of the Democratic House and Senate leaders, Lujan and Aragon, respectively, dressed in aprons and chefs’ hats, carving up a turkey….
Rayne @ 131
I thought about that too, Rayne.
Elliott @ 106
I understand the implication. No, his superiors at DoJ would have done nothing, but, his ethical obligation was to report it. What they did with the information is another matter.
Where did Karl go?
These guys are great,they do a “political satire for young folks” thing. This is a parody of an Eminem video that they did about Karl Rove.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDaRFf7Cd6M
LMAO
–Sadie
Riesz,
Republicans have a well-earned reputation for interfering with elections, but I can’t figure out any reasons that democrats would call Lamont a Communist. Did Liebermann get phone numbers from Dems?
Can you get your phone records and locate the caller?
montag @ 136
They probably would have fired him.
Oh, right…
Rayne @ 131
No, I don’t have caller ID. Also, it’s illegal to record calls in MI, but I think you can do it if you tell the caller at the beginning of the call. And no, I don’t remember the guy’s name. Maybe I should start writing down their names from now on.
montag- I had the pleasure of seeing Oliphant give a talk/ do a performance at the Carter museum. He was talking about his craft, and making drawings at the same time- these were projected in real time. It really was quite amazing, both the drawings and the commentary.
Just returned from 10 days in D.C. I highly recommend taking the time to get to the endi of the trial. You can combine it with lobbying your representatives ( I went to see Senator Voinovich, Senator Brown and Congressman Wilson, all from Ohio). Also went to visit a few other Senators about Phase II of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.
There is nothing like witnessing this cast of characters up close.
Sat in for the closing comments of Team Libby and Team Fitzgerald and the jury instructions the next day. Judge Walton impressed me more than anyone (well with the exception of the FDL crew) is incredibly clear, concise, and no nonsense. He did not talk down to anyone (that I witnessed) was oh so professional yet seemed oh so accessible. IMPRESSIVE!
Feb. 18 th… The first day I was in the courtroom I was surprised by how many attorneys ( I guess they are attorneys) were on both teams. (8-10) sit around both tables. The only time that I witnessed Libby get nervous was when Fitzgerald was sharing his closing arguments. Libby sat forward in his seat the whole time, jaw locked and his eyes darted back and forth from Fitz to the jury. When Fitz was addressing the damage done to national security and the “alleged” potential of loss of life due to the Plame outing Jeffords(sp?)who sat next to Libby sat straight up and clenched his jaw blood vessels were pulsing in his neck and they looked as if they would burst as he objected to Fitz’s comments. Judge Walton turned on the noise button and both teams were called up to discuss Fitz’s statements. The noise button was turned off and Fitz was allowed to continue where he left off about damage done by the Plame outing to national security.
Watched the media closely while I sat and read and shared with other spectators for eight days at the Barrett Prettyman courthoused. Was pleasantly surprised by how accessible some of the journalist were. Byron York was friendly (would not have expected this) and accessible. Even though I do not agree with him on much. I will continue to read his opinions at National Review.
Talked with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews for quite some time. He was the real deal. Completely accessible( not arrogant at all) and willing to talk with a peasant(me) and a friend. We talked about Hillary, the Israeli Palestinina conflict and the trial. I let him know that while I do not agree with everything he has to say that I stick up for him on left wing blogs (expecially with people who do not ever watch him have such strong opinions). The main reason I stick up for him is that I have heard him hammering (one of the only MSMers who does so) the rwr(right wing radicals for three years) with hard driving questions. Especially when they repeat unsubstantiated claims about Iran’s “alleged” nuclear weapons program. Matthews was also the first anchor that I saw devote a great deal of air time to injured soldiers at Walter Reed Hospital several years ago. I did challenge Matthews later letting him know I was a “bold bitch” (he laughed). I shared that I wished he would live up to what he had said over a year and a half ago when just after Katrina he stated on air that “Katrina had ripped the scab off of racism in this country”. I said to Matthews that the scab had been lifted off of the issue for about a month on his program. And that if MSNBC would shine their media spotlight on New Orleans every couple of weeks that this would help speed up the recovery. Who knows what influence a “bold bitch” can have. And as I taught my three daughters it never hurts to ask!
David Corn would never make eye contact and seemed distant. And of course, the Firedog lake crew are a complete delight. Jane is not only completely accessible and honorable, she listens with interest to a simple peasant with opinions.
As I shared with Jane, after watching and listening to the MSM up close ( as I have on several occasions) I am more convinced now than ever before that the “blogosphere” is critical to accessing a much fuller picture of our government and the inner workings of our leaders and the press itself. FIREDOGLAKE ROCKS AND IS A BLESSING FOR THE PUBLIC’S NEED OT KNOW!
Go to the trial if you can. It is worth it!
Was surprised that the MSM (there was a great deal of standing around and waiting last week) never even attempted to interview the public who was in attendance of the court proceedings. I met a farmer from Iowa, a retired teacher (taught in the public schools for over 20 years) from New York who had attended Harvard, an older woman who lived in Washington D.C. and had worked overseas for 25 years for the state department, a woman working on a research paper and others who had been at the trial off and on for the whole month.
You would think one of the MSM’ers would have wanted to let their readers know who and why some of the public in attendance were there.
Dream on!
Terry Olson @ 138
Good idea– maybe I can get it from my phone bill.
Riesz- I do think this episode is worthy of some serious investigation, by whatever means.
beth meacham @ 133
(my bold)
which is exactly why we can’t wait two more years. No more reactionary Supreme Court justices, there are too many all ready!
Eli @ 80
Why wouldn’t Diebold sell to him? They’re a publically held company and it’s only the voting machine part they want to sell. Diebold bought Global Election Systems in 2002 and GES has certainly besmirched Diebold’s good name.
From what I hear most of the company wants to kill the GES computer engineers who have designed such an inferior product.
Rayne @ 131
Reisz, am I having a Libby moment or are you in Michigan?
Valley Girl @ 126
Wow, VG– that editorial was right out of Bizarro World!
Check out this line:
For 22 years, he was director of the American Civil Liberties Union, which has been financed by communists and dedicated to advancing Marxism since its inception and to this day seeks to impose socialism and atheism on America.
“he” was Corliss Lamont.
Now I know what “Poppy” Bush was talking about when he called Dukakis a card-carrying member of the ACLU. I guess me and Dukakis are commies! Who new?
Riesz- probably won’t appear on your phone bill, but maybe your local provider can help you trace the call.
beth meacham @
133
I don’t think that the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction in this case. Let’s start with this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress
HotFlash @ 147
Yeah, I live in Michigan, and so does Rayne. Do you also?
Valley Girl @ 149
Right- I didn’t make the call so it won’t be on my bill, duh. I was having a Gipper moment.
Yeah, I could try to trace it, but maybe it would be better to just write to the DSCC and have them warn their callers not to pass on Puke talking points.
On NPR David C. Iglesias said he received a subpeona and will testify Tuesday.
He also said if that if he were asked directly – who called his office to inquire about investigations of democratic proliticians – he would answer it.
ohioblue @ 146
They’re a very right-wing publicly held company, and I don’t trust them one bit.
It’s probably a pipe dream, anyway. If he won’t buy a media empire, he probably won’t buy an e-voting company either…
Neil @ 153
It might come up.
It better FN come up!
Riesz Fischer @ 151
Actually, I think it would be better to trace this to the root of the rot, rather than giving them a head’s up. If it really is the DSCC, then we need to know. Howie Klein might be quite interested….
Valley Girl @ 144
Indeed, even if Reisz doesn’t have call display, MI Dems should be on the alert for these guys, whoever they are, and get a number. It would also be interesting to know where the donations are supposed to go, too — wouldn’t it be cute if they went to some PAC that is not Dem? A girl can dream…
Also: Reisz — really, it sometimes is important to know the actual number (as in hone), abhorrent as this concept is to mathemeticians!
Mod note- you did mean “as in phone”, didn’t you?
Eli – An e-voting company would be much less expensive than a media empire. Maybe there’s hope.
Yes, I agree and I think most corporations are pretty right-wing. However, I am talking about the everyday workers at Diebold who used to be very proud of their products, before 2002 and this voting machine debacle.
ohioblue @ 159
Soros’s objection to the media empire had nothing to do with cost. More like he believed it would morally compromise him.
Riesz Fischer @ 151
I live in Canada, but absentee for MI-10 (Port Huron). I think you are west side tho?
Elliott @ 81
Arlen has always been a snake.
Impeach Gonzales?
Pectopah – But that requires 51 in the Senate. JoeLie will never vote for impeachment, and Johnson is unable to vote for the near future. PLus, could a McConnell filibuster prevent the impeachment vote?
_______________
Beth Meacham – Remember that the Supreme Court is packed with right-wingers. If Abu Gonzales is subpoenaed by Congress, he’ll just go to court to quash. Get it up to the Supremes, and it’s all gone.
_____________
Dean was counting on some Republican crossovers when he launched his idea to impeach Gonzales a few months ago – can’t find his article now.
Gonzales has already lost one at the Supreme Court.
If the present prosecutor purge story gets any momentum and if impeachment proceedings against Gonzales for contempt of Congress were really underway, might not the Supremes feel enough public pressure and refuse to intervene?
From what I have read, David Iglesias may not be quite the poor victim. There was a report in (TPM?) that he was involved in screwing Ms Madrid early in the campaign by removing her from the state corruption investigation. Ms Wilson then pounded her during the campaign for not doing her job. David was ready to go as a good Republican operative should until the Justice Dept. said he was fired for poor job performance.
Is this spin or was he involved in fixing the election for Heather Wilson?
HotFlash @ 158
Hey, watch it! We can use actual numbers! :-)
Re: phone pitch
Most of these poor saps on the phone are working on commission, probably not very political. Most likely someone chatted up the phone guy who then repeated something to you he heard from some other “mark.”
Sometimes they have been prepped about some things that might come up. I can’t believe they would give out the commie line as something to answer with, but who knows?
This is not about patronage. It’s a mass firing to cover the one firing they really care about.
Two words: Dusty Foggo.
Steve @ 164
I read that too. As I was saying, he’s a Puke.
Eli at 160 – Then I guess an e-voting company would really compromise him, which is exactly why my friends who work at Diebold are praying that the company sheds GES.
Riesz Fischer @ 140
Riesz — I can have someone check the MI-Dem database to see if there is anything unusual about your entry, assuming you have one in the system. But I suspect if this is either DSCC or a non-Dem dirty trickster, they’re using a non-MI-Dem database. Email me if you want me to proceed: rayne_today [at] yahoo
HotFlash @ 161
Central. I live in Grand Blanc, a suburb of Flint. (Michael Moore country)
Zig alert.
Steve: Is this spin or was he involved in fixing the election for Heather Wilson?
* * *
He did what he could to screw with Madrid perhaps, but he would not “speed up” his investigation. He/her tried to get traction against Madrid with the treasurer corruption case, but it did not take. Wilson remained down in the polls, even in the last polling done, the Sunday before Tuesday.
There is still some question about how the votes were counted, or not, despite the paper ballots. The scene at the warehouse where the ballots were counted was insane. The Rs are very organized against counting votes. There were a LOT of provisional ballots thrown out. Up until that time, the ballots were showing in Madrid’s favor.
But Igleasias had nothing to do with that. Wilson and he/r friend Pete tried to weight the scales with the other investigation, which still has not been charged. Iglesias will be an interesting witness.
I talked to a District Court judge the other day, a D. Even the Ds think Iglesias was a straight shooter and think his canning was a crock.
Riesz Fischer @
165
So long as those actual numbers are integers if we’re talking about phone numbers – right? (Otherwise, those actual numbers could be rational, irrational, transcendental, imaginary, complex, countably infinite, or transfinite. What numbers, if any, did I inadvertently omit?)
HotFlash — Riesz is in MI-05, Dale Kildee’s district. Must be nice to have a solid Dem for a rep. [sigh]
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 174
That’s pretty much all I know about. I guess you could throw in the uncountable ordinals.
Rayne @ 175
Yeah, Flint is pretty solid Dem.
BTW, I sent you an e-mail, Rayne.
Back at ya’, Riesz.
Rayne @ 175
I have to put up with Ehlers. He’s not quite as bad as Hoekstra, but otherwise. It’s bad enough. I’m in Kentwood,MI pretty much straight west michigan conservative country. Only my senators are dems. *sighs* MI-12. Gods we have a lot of work to do on this side of the state.
Terry Olson @
117
Terry, sorry, I missed this. I find sometimes that when I make a comment it skips me downthread and I miss good stuff unless I remembered the number of the comment I was commenting on. Anyway…
I am a Michigander, came up to Toronto in 1969 when I was 19 and have been here ever since. I took out Cdn citizenship and considered myself a Cdn. I discovered when crossing the border to visit family after 9/11 that I was still a US citizen, dual, actually, and therefore *I* was responsible for the war in Iraq. So I started trying to figure out what had happened and ended up here at the Lake.
As far as Cda goes, I like it a lot and it is my home. The weather here is pretty yucky at the moment, though — I shoulda gone to Van ;).
aliasofwestgate — you up for some investigative work? know any attorneys in your neck of the woods? I’m looking for feedback from the legal community about U.S. Attorney Margaret Chiara and any reasons that she might have been dismissed.
I’m coming up with nada.
p.s. aliasofwestgate, ditto on the Ehlers; it could be a lot worse with Hoekstra. And you could live in Holland. Ugh.
This might be the pithy political comment of the day, regarding Iglesias/Domenici/Wilson flap.
I unfortunately don’t know any at all, Rayne. I work as a pharmacy tech. So i get very little legal contact outside the ones i deal with in medical issues on an everyday basis.
I could probably find something to do in my spare time though. *grins* Lots of legal offices all around me.
Edit: There was a piece in the local paper about that firing, by the way. I wonder if i could look it up on the website. Front page at that, which is unusual for the GR Press on issues like that.
Kathleen @142 Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.
Riesz @ 6:24 pm -
Oops – Come to think of it, I didn’t mention uncountable ordinals. Upon further reflection, I think I would be correct in stating that rational numbers are countably infinite and irrational numbers are uncountably infinite.
Rayne @ 182
Or, Zeeland….
FOUND IT! This
is the story i remember seeing after getting out of work last week. The fact that they even question her leaving that post is encouraging, actually. Especially for this area.
RE-INSTATE all of them and IMPEACH ALBERTO the boy attorney. This is so blatant, its making me crazy.
IMPEACH the WHOLE administration ASAP, this cannot wait another 2 years!
Eureka Springs, AR @ 185
Kathleen, great report! Nicely done with Chris Matthews, especially. It’s important to let people know they can have an impact, as you did with Chris. He’s not my favorite, but he’s certainly made more effort than most others.
Thanks.
Great post. I know Iglesias is the most interesting based on the facts so far, but my favorite reference in the press was this:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c…..eys04.html
Ooooo, what a bad idea
??
I wonder what he could have been thinking of:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories…..2401.shtml
SO, were McNulty’s prior “performance”
fibsstatements under oath?And the big question —-
Can Ashcroft still have a pizza party, if he only invites fired USAttys? It sounds like several of them will be in DC after all …
Mary4- do you come into the end of a thread on purpose? ;) ;)
Such a waste of talent, if so.
bg @
116
I spent a lot of time rolling my eyes during her speech… it wasn’t good, whatever that was…
Kathleen – thanks for that interesting post.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 185
Kathleen thank you for telling us more about your trip, the scene in the courtroom, and your impressions of journalists, columnists, bloggers and curious citizens. I enjoy your posts.
I’m sorry to hear David Corn was not gregarious. Seems he’s been keeping his head down in more ways than one. I found your impresions of Tweety interesting. Based on your experience, I’ll give him another chance. I was a BIG fan at one time, then furious when he it seemed he was shilling for Bush with all that “he looks so Presidential in his codpiece and flight suit.” …No surprise the FDL folks are engaging… And you saw the great Fitz in action. Madness Madness Madness!
What a great trip Kathleen. Cheers to you!
Neil
aka O'ReillyVG – *g* I don’t get to check in as much and lots of times when I go to a thread that really interested me, I’m way late to the party. I know a scarecrow or two I hit when there were about 6 later posts already up.
I’m very glad lhp has focused some attention on this (and Christy too). BTW – a fun factoid. Bc of the patriot act provision that provides for completely circumventing the Constitutionally required advice and consent process, a criminal defense lawyer (argh! I can’t remember which state now) has filed a motion to have his client’s charges dismissed – bc “some guy” who is “calling himself” the USAtty but has never been properly appointed filed them.
Chain meet yank.
TeddySanFran @ 190
Chris Matthews really listened ( or he pretended really well). He did respond to my comments and questions!
ps – I also especially like Karl Rove and Harriet Meyer’s buddy – the fearless new prosecutor who daringly go after terrorists, crimelords, Russian mafia – you name it. As long as no one makes him go answer those scawee scawee questions that those scawee scawee Senators might ask.
I mean how ridiculous is that?
He’ll handle car bombings and death threats, but Dick Durbin scares him?
There’s many ways Matthews could improve (codpiece, Clenis) but he’s never struck me as an intellectually uncurious person. I think he can learn, and that he may see that the media paradigm is changing. Thanks for giving him a nudge, Kathleen.
These fucking Republican bastards piss me off so much I can’t see straight. Really. These Abu Gonzales types from the W camp are just vile vile people.
It’s really not surprising that Gonzales has no time for subpeonas. He is just SWAMPED what with all the assaults on religious freedom occuring everywhere in the United States.
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/relig…..eedom.html
Between organizing regional seminars “to educate religious, civil rights, and community leaders, attorneys, government officials, and other interested citizens about the laws protecting religious freedom enforced by the Department of Justice and how to file complaints” and participating in meetings and speaking engagements for “outreach to religious organizations, civil rights organizations, and other groups and individuals concerned with religious liberty issues” I can see the problem.
Maybe if Sen. Leahy described it as a “come to Jesus” meeting instead of a Judiciary committee investigation?
During Fitz’s closing I thought his best line was (as he pointed at the image with Libby in the middle and all of the witnesses around him). Fitz said this is not a “he said she said” case. This is a “he said, he said, he said, she said, he said, he said, he said, she said, he said, he said, he said” case . As he pointed to each one of his witnesses. This line barely made the Washington Papers. Did Jane and the FDLer’s post this Fitz statement. It was a “pure classic”
Oh yes and during the closing arguments. When Fitz got up to speak the whole room sat up straight and listened closely. The room became electrified as Fitz words and quick wit cut right through all of the bullshit like a laser beam. I could almost see him dressed in a super hero outfit…..
Apropos to nothing, Huge Applause for the NYT op ed.
See VG, I can make up in quantity for lack of timeliness. *g* bye
Mary4- I did see however, that CHS quoted you in a post. Great comment, I thought.
Mary4- I wish you would do another front pager. You do have the gift.
“I think that the American people lose if I spend all my time worrying about congressional requests for information, if I spend all my time responding to subpoenas.”
Contempt of Congress, anyone?
Kathleen, Marcy live-blogged that great “he said, he said,” etc. by Fitz. I really you envy you being there. I really liked the “oh yeah, I heard that tomorrow from Cooper”.
Teresa @ 207
I sure wish you could go. This is the first time in 29 years (just put the youngest in college) of raising children that I have had the freedom to do such a thing. Well worth it!
The Aipac/ Franklin trial is coming up in June that will be another opportunity to watch the court proceedings and watch the media to see if they do their job!
justintime @
115
I love that concept!
EPUed,
But great post, LHP.
cbl @ 103
ahh. that’s very helpful. Now I don’t get the speed bump! Call me Abe Simpson attempting the Chewbacca defense. thanks cbl.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @
174
Measurable cardinals, for example.
The Times article made me furious at the *Times*. They never mentioned that US Attorneys (who were appointed by the Repugs in the first place) had been replaced only three times in the last twenty-five years before this. Now there have been eight firings in the last year (or less.)
But the Times has a pull-quote with their “false equivalency” ….saying “Where some see the hand of politics, others see a standard reshuffling.” Not til the fourteenth paragraph on the second page of the article do they mention that Karl Rove’s friend has been appointed.
Pectopah @
127
Abrams plead guilty to two misdemeanor counts of lying to Congress about the Reagan Administration’s contra program, but was granted a Christmas Eve pardon a year later by President George Bush. So, being a convict is no barrier to being a high-ranking member of Bush II’s administration. (Was his crime a felony, or only a misdemeanor?)
In other words, if Libby is convicted, that won’t prevent him from being appointed to some high White House position in some future Republican administration.
Bob in HI
Kathleen @
142
Wow! Thank you so much.
I haven’t followed the trial as much as you “groupies.” :-) I never thought that this sort of truthtelling would be allowed in a house of liar – er, lawyers.
I doubt many outside of a small segment of liberals have the slightest notion of the contempt for the security of the country that has been shown. I would guess the vast majority of the population considers the trial a witchhunt over piddling political gamesmanship.
Best, Terry
I’m trying not to be to cuckoo and paranoid, but these guys are creeping me out. And too many of my friends say things like “after the 2008 elections IF we have them…”
Unfortunately it seems to me that there have been too many instances of specious laws/rulings and ignoring of the Constitution for me to dismiss them as crazies. I think the only way to stop these guys is impeachment…and soon.
Fuck man. I can’t believe our government does shit like this and no one like cares. This is what happens when you slash education funding and make this generation so fucking dumb that they worship Paris Hilton.
I weep for humanity.
Alberto R. Gonzalves -
Making Ashcroft look good.
Epu-land here I come…
Why did the Bush administration do this? Answer: Because they can. And that`s “can” in the most basic, most evil, most 1984-like interpretation of the word. No need for reason or logic.
How I wish this was nothing but a nightmare. But sadly it`s not.
It seems more and more clear with each passing day that this administration is like a child who knows no boundaries. They will only stop when real grown-ups make them.
(And I apologize to every child on this planet for comparing them to the Bush administration.)
Well I still would like to know just how it happened and who is responsible for putting that little escape clause into the Patriot Act that allowed Bushco,( an administration loaded with unqualified political Heckuva job hacks) to purge them and replace them wihout any congressional oversight/approval in the first place?
And what does Congress intend to do to (retroactively?) correct it?