(Yes, I bought a box of Peeps just so I could make that stupid pun. No Peeps were harmed in the making of this post.)
Hey, Peeps! What's shakin'? Lotsa stuff going down this week:
– The tighty-whitey-righties tried to launch another smear against Al Gore, only to see it debunked before it could get into most of the news sources (aside from NPR, alas) most Americans depend on to be informed (namely drive-time radio and the evening TV news). We're getting better at Rapid Response, folks — but NPR is getting more assiduous at transmitting right-wing talking points.
– Our current Army Secretary, Francis J. Harvey, was forced to resign in the wake of the Walter Reed scandal. This makes him the second Secretary of the Army under Bush to leave office under less-than-peaceful circumstances. (Remember Tom White?)
– Speaking of our armed forces: Steve Gilliard over at The News Blog (get well, Steve!) has been saying all along that troop morale in Iraq is crumbling to the point where their effectiveness as a fighting force is seriously degraded, and that a troop mutiny will happen if Bush doesn't pull them out of Iraq. He's just been vindicated.
– From the Do As I Say, Not As I Do Department: Republican presidential wannabee Mitt Romney stated the week before last that he and the other Republicans running for president would eschew the ''rancor'' that allegedly existed between the Democratic presidential candidates. But last week, with polls showing him running in a distant third place for the GOP nomination, the former Massachusetts governor dumped a whole boatload of rancor onto John McCain and Rudy Giuliani: "Romney told New Hampshire voters on Thursday that McCain was devising an immigration policy that was the 'wrong course' for the nation. And Giuliani's positions on abortion, same-sex marriage, and gun control were a losing combination in the GOP primary, he told a television audience replete with Christian conservatives."
– Speaking of Christian conservatives, many of them are becoming less conservative — and more friendly towards the Democratic Party. Since Christian conservatives are the GOP's bedrock voting bloc, this is a problem for the Republicans.
So what's on your mind this lovely morning, Peeps?
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Phoenix Woman @
1
Word
Those Peeps marshmallow/sugar-filled candies are pure junk food. Yet each Spring, when the stores stock them in quantites, I buy some.
Just reading the latest always interesting and always entertaining installment of Slacktivist’s deconstruction of Left Behind. And the almost as interesting and entertaining and informative comments section …
Trying to catch up after being out of the loop with little or no access to the Toobz…. Lordy do I know how emptywheel feels…
Did I miss anything this week?
Peeps? Homies? LOL. I have a feeling alot of us are of the generation that would say something like- Hey, Peace,man. We need a computer key for the peace symbol.
So, PW, are you in Phoenix or Mn.?
Ah yes just another misunderstanding.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c…..012760.php
It turns out the whole thing is just one of those unfortunate misunderstandings the Bush White House now and again finds itself in. The ouster of the US attorneys had nothing to do with political payback or stymieing investigations. It’s just that the White House wanted to get rid of a hand full of US attorneys who weren’t doing a good enough job enforcing administration policy on immigration, guns and other issues.
Bob Geiger hasa good riff on John Kerry raking one of the SwiftLiars over the coals. Not to mention the Saturday cartoons.
And Mercury Rising has a very nice piece from The Guardian on how shipping is becoming a major contributor to global warming (if I may do a bit of self-promotion).
I buy Peeps only to torment them in the microwave. Peep jousts!
Regarding NPR’s catering to the rightwing, do you think it would get their attention if current and former supporters suggested that they target their “listener-sponsored” fundraising overtures to that group? I wonder how many conservatives actually pony-up cash to support NPR broadcasts?
Phoenix Woman: The tighty-whitey-righties tried to launch another smear against Al Gore, only to see it debunked before it could get into most of the news sources…
No, the debunking never gets out to the good honest hardworking folks who know wrong from right. My coworkers were still repeating this lie just yesterday. It’s like the “Gore says he invented the internet” story. The truth doesn’t matter– the first lie that gets broadcast widely is accepted by the good honest hardworking folks who know wrong from right, and there’s nothing you can do about it. I told them it was a lie, but of course they’re going to believe what they saw on the dang TV. (Pronounced TEE vee)
Good Morning, Phoenix Woman.
This is on my mind.
This disgraceful bit of CheneyCo. business as usual deserves to be covered by someone better than Republican stenography expert John Solomon. Note that no where in the article does he mention that none of the new A.G.s require Senate confirmation, thanks to something slipped into the USAPATRIOT Act by Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA).
Bush is on TV with the High School kids in Enterprise. This man is an embarassment. Sucking the last drop of political capital he can from the pain of others. Please let the Libby jury start the collapse of this administration. I want to see everyone on that jury in jackets, ties, and new dresses on Monday morning.
NPR = National Propaganda Radio
NPR = National Pentagon Radio
Can anyone thing of a another meaning?
Spazeboy shoveled the snow from my walkway but it is damned icy. I’ve got poodle ice capades everywhere this morning.
Also from the “Do As I Say, Not As I Do” department, we have everybody’s favorite campaign finance bill co-author threatening to bypass the public funding system unless his still very hypothetical opponent promises not to. Now, I’m a big fan of public campaign finance, but is it really right for one candidate to try to bully and browbeat all participants into playing by his rules? Especially when he’s supposedly such a proponent of limiting the effects of big money?
McCain May Opt Out Of Financing System
Republican presidential candidate John McCain, a longtime advocate of limiting the influence of money in political campaigns, will opt out of the post-Watergate presidential public financing system unless the Democratic nominee agrees to campaign under the same financial restrictions, his campaign said Thursday.
Thanks, Phoenix Woman. The link to the troop morale article led me to the comments, where another reader reveals that troops have been charged for weapons lost in battle???
What the hell? Cheney’s Halliburton rakes it in on this effort as we charge soldiers money as “incentive to hang on to their weapons.”
The evil insanity of believing that, during battle, a soldier will be mindful of his own personal “bottom line,” could only come out of a sociopathic businessman’s head. God help us.
Millineryman @ 8
And given that all Bush administration policy is designed purely for partisan political advantage, this is different from political payback in what respect?
NPR is no bastion of journalistic excellence. Far from it. If you want to have a good idea just how far, this site is the best I’ve seen that covers NPR: NPRCheck
I have no affiliation, and wouldn’t post it here if I didn’t think it rose to a level FDL readers would appreciate. =)
(fixed a typo)
EvilDrPuma @ 17
The last paragraph is an excerpt from the linked article; I must not be completely awake yet.
Jane Hamsher @ 16
Ice isn’t nice. Please be careful. We got hit with lots of snow. Not as much as Balrog–15 inches, wow. I’m holed in with supplies of chocolate and grout (don’t ask).
upperleftedge @ 14
I hope nobody involved in the current disaster relief effort is expecting anything more than photo-ops from Bush. It should be clear by now that the man has no intention of keeping any promises he makes in this area.
Bush visits school devastated by twister
I’m so sick of our President.
I like peeps:
- fresh
- toasted over the gas stove (be careful)
- very, very stale to the consistency of fruit leather
TMI: Sometimes I gently bite their little brown carnuba wax eyes off first.
Millineryman @ 8
Ah, I see we are reacting to the same White House B.S. I didn’t see your comment while I was looking up the links for mine.
I’d like to spotlight something on this to Debbie Howell. John Solomon was hired, like Michael Gerson, to spin more White House lies at the allegedly liberal WaPo.
AP: Iraq PM says he’ll reshuffle Cabinet
I feel so much better now I know this.
marysavannah @ 11
What is the donor base?
link
Modeled after the Deaniacs contributing to his campaign after being attacked I believe, John Edwrads responses to Anne Coulter
https://johnedwards.com/action/contribute/coulter
Oklahoma kiddo @ 27
Deck chairs on the Titanic.
Here’s what’s on my mind, PW: a nasty little fact at the bottom of the Walter Reed scandal. It seems the Bushies thought it would be a great idea (as they always do) to privatize outpatient services (the ones that have been so woefully inadequate) at Walter Reed — and guess who they picked to do it? A company run by a Cheney crony, late of Halliburton! On his watch, outpatient care slid into a black hole of cost-cutting, because as they never tell you when they’re trumpeting the virtues of privatization — it’s all about making a profit! IMPEACH CHENEY FOR WAR PROFITEERING NOW!!!!!!!!!
There are rumors floating that Ann Coulter has had gay experiences. Can anyone confirm this?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 32
Even if I could, I’d be keeping my mouth shut.
One of my co-workers told me she puts two peeps in the microwave, gives them toothpicks for swords, and then zaps them and lets them battle it out.
Peeps! What the Easter Bunny must bring for mrEg.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 32
I thot we all promised Teddy we would not go after Coulter on sexual orientation matters.
ifthethunderdontgetya @
13
Yea, but I’ve got to wonder why people didn’t read the act before they voted in favor of it. They have staff…
Peeps to brighten your day:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c…..79/12.html
Millineryman @ 29
In case you haven’t heard about this yet (I hadn’t):
I’d be even more disgusted if this wasn’t exactly the kind of behavior I’ve come to expect from both Coulter and the mainstream media.
The real question is whether Coulter is pre or post-op. As Mickey Kaus of Slate has had carnal knowledge of the creature further queries should be launched in his direction.
Hey Thunder
Driving up to the Lynchburg hospital this morning they had “Grateful Dead Morning” on the UVA station. Swell view of the Blue Ridge mountains and listening to Dicks Picks was a good start to the day!
Keith Olbermann will be hosting a live interview with Valerie Plame on March 17 in NYC. From what I have read (Radar Magazine via Rawstory & DKos), this appears not to be an MSNBC event. Obviously, I am way down here in Texas, so I could not attend. We all need to contact MSNBC to get them to cover this. I think it is terribly important.
If someone has already posted about this, sorry to repeat, but I didn’t read previous posts on this thread before I wrote this. Happy Saturday everyone!
peep!peep!
impeepshment!
it’s on the floor of the new mexico legislature TODAY.
serious efforts on in vermont (check it out at greenmountaindaily.com, complete with cartoon).
i believe that this is the path to real change in american politics, both foreign and domestic. if enough states do this, washington will have to stop ignoring us. it can happen in a lot of states and has already started. writing, emailing and calling legislators is fine but legitimately taking matters into our own hands is more powerful.
peep! peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!
Phoenix Woman – what’s crackin’, my sista?
I have to laugh at the idea that NPR has any liberal slant these days. They did their work well, bringing in Tomlinson.
And I love Peeps! I could eat them till I keel over.
egregious @ 36
I was, and remain, unawares of this commitment. Have I been once again slow? Perhaps I’m ’speed-boating’. Or is that swift boating? ;0)
raven @ 41
I drove back from D.C. to Ohio on Thursday. I always take 270-70-68-79-70 because I don’t like the Pennsylvania turnpike. It does make it a bit tricky when the weather is bad (as it was on the way out).
Witney @ 41
I think it might be People for the American Way that is sponsoring it. Had a linkie, but no can find. I think they were asking for a $150 donation per ticket. I’ll look again.
peep research
Ok this is so wierd…maybe it wasn’t me after all. Last night I clicked on FDL and landed on this post, I read it and the went to the comments -low and behold!- 0 comments! OMG! I might get a Zed!! So off I click, my screen flashes and the entire post disappears! I kept going back an’ forth looking for it, to no avail. I thought I’d hallucinated the whole thing! I can’t decide now if I’m disappointed that I didn’t-it would have been the most exciting thing that’s happened to me in a week. Jeez, I need a life.
John Edwards may have too much dignity to respond to Coulter’s nasty remarks yesterday. I have no such notion.
People for American Way Home page- Plame
http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/
Oklahoma kiddo @ 50
Easy, we had a big squabble here Thursday over a comment that was perceived to be a joke made at the expense of a person’s sexual orienation.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 50
I’d say that raising money for his campaign in “honor” of her vicious smear is a response. I’d also say it’s a dignified and effective way to deal with this kind of disruptor. I don’t recall where, but in at least one town a pledge drive was once set up so that donors could pledge a sum of money per minute that Fred Phelps and His Traveling Hate Brigade disgraced their streets. The money was donated to AIDS research, if I recall correctly. (This was before the Iraq War and Phelps’ bowel movements on the memory of troops killed in action.)
raven @ 52
I did not know this. And thanks for the clue. I will however go after anyone who makes remarks like Coulter did. ;0)
conniptionfit @ 49
Ah! You had the famous -1 post! Not found!
[dumb programmer joke - I apologize]
Oklahoma kiddo @ 54
Coulter leaves plenty of options without getting into matters of sexual orientation.
With Coulter the question is not one of sexual orientation but gender identity.
Check out Ann Coulter’s CSPAN stand up routine at CPAC on Friday. She calls the Edward’s campaign faggots(which is interesting, because the guy that opened the session was quite queenly). She likened blacks to trash while trying to insult Bill Clinton and on about four different occasions recommended that college students start a drinking club named after Joe McCarthy to battle campus apathy. The only Repug candidate smart enough not to show up was John McCain.
David Ehrenstein @ 57
I think the bigger question is whether, as an infant, she was dropped on her head very hard once or lightly a few dozen times.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 50
What was that? Was Coulter simply insinuating (in a most obnoxious fashion) that Edwards is gay? How does Coulter like gay Karl Rove, gay male prostitute/ white house reporter Gannon Guckert, gay Ken Mehlman, Cheney’s gay daughter and the numererous other gays in the Bush circle jerk? Is Bush the Pivot Man?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 45
making remarks about coulter’s personal life lowers us to her level, well, maybe that’s impossible, but at least in that direction.
i think we can do quite well just by calling her on her contemptable public utterances. she’s a miserable excuse of a human being regardless of what is or isn’t between her legs, or what kind of chemicals her body is inclined to generate.
Just finished Reggie Walton’s latest 48-page memo in the Libby case. The headline on this story (”Judge suggests Cheney testimony could have aided Libby”) is (at best) misleading. All Walton said about the Shooter–in a footnote, no less–is that Libby could have easily called the Shooter to the stand to say that Libby was a Very Busy Man, and therefore Cheney could have been an avenue to introduce all of the graymail evidence Libby wanted to try to put before the jury.
My reading of the memo is that it’s 48 pages of CYA for Walton if: (a) Libby is convicted, and (b) his lawyers appeal on every imaginable ground. The fact that Walton wrote the memo at all suggests to me that Walton feels there’s enough of a chance of a conviction that he needs to formalize his rulings against the defense (and the rulings he discussed were ALL against the defense). If I were Team Libby, this would not be very welcome reading for me. Coupled with the jury note from yesterday, I would imagine Libby’s lawyers are spending the weekend desperately trying to convince Libby to cut a deal.
I believe in giving as good as one gets. If Coulter wants to fight dirty, I’m up for it.
Millineryman @ 28
Excuse me, but I do not see why John Edwards’ response to Ann Coulter’s remarks should be to ask me for money. Particularly in view of his poor showing wrt Catholic League president Bill Donohue’s attacks on Edwards’ blogger ladies.
What exactly is he planning to do with $100,000? Buy a full-page ad in the NYT? Encase Ms Coulter in chocolate? Pay her to stop saying mean things about him? $100,000 is too little for an ad campaign, maybe enough to start a legal action, but I am curious as to what he plans. OK, go to E&P article. Um, campaign manager David Bonior says, “If we can raise $100,000 in ‘Coulter Cash’ this week, we can show that bigotry will only backfire on those who use it.” Right, I see, if Ann slangs a Dem, we give the Dem money. That’ll show her.
Seriously, folks, what could they possibly mean?
moon @ 58
McCain is doing a fine job defeating his own purpose in very public ways. A lot of the others need an Ann Coulter to help them discredit themselves loudly enough.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 50
Suggested comment from Barack Obama: “I’m glad she didn’t say anything about me.”
EvilDrPuma @
30
or are they just trying to find warm bodies who will appear… many of the old members have moved their diggs to Jordan
Couldn’t sleep around 3am. So got up and read thru Walton’s latest. So there’s me in a dark house, laughing with glee at his smackdown phrases. A classic.
I was there on Feb 13th when many of these points were argued, so I read the decision with great interest.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 63
I’m with you, O.K., but let’s fight smart, too. They like to use smears, innuendo, and prejudice.
All we need are the facts.
https://johnedwards.com/action/contribute/coulter
Excuse me, but I do not see why John Edwards’ response to Ann Coulter’s remarks should be to ask me for money. Particularly in view of his poor showing wrt Catholic League president Bill Donohue’s attacks on Edwards’ blogger ladies.
What exactly is he planning to do with $100,000? Buy a full-page ad in the NYT? Encase Ms Coulter in chocolate? Pay her to stop saying mean things about him? $100,000 is too little for an ad campaign, maybe enough to start a legal action, but I am curious as to what he plans. OK, go to E&P article. Um, campaign manager David Bonior says, “If we can raise $100,000 in ‘Coulter Cash’ this week, we can show that bigotry will only backfire on those who use it.” Right, I see, if Ann slangs a Dem, we give the Dem money. That’ll show her.
Seriously, folks, what could they possibly mean?
What they mean is they will take advantage of any kind of pub to hit people up for money.
I will fight hate and discrimination with every tool available.
I’d like to see Mitt Romney try to weasel out of his enthusiastic support of her. This will be a good show.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 71
Including hate and discrimination? Because, you see, that is where the line is drawn that others are trying to show you.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 71
Even hate and discrimination? :)
This morning I was running down the latest outrage about the Walter Reed situation with my wife, the firings, the privatization memo, the Halliburton connection, the Katerina ice contractor, the subpoena of the general, the army trying to prevent testimony…
She said it was as complicated as the plot in a soap opera. She said there should be a program on E! or somewhere to weave it all together in a continuing saga.
Hmm, said I.
What would such a program look like? Would it be possible to put it together from news clips, coverage of committe hearings? Would need a voice over– would Cronkite be a good choice? Use reenactments? Who would play the major actors is this reality show?
edited to add: with my wife
HotFlash @ 63
It’s a show of support. I’d rather see Edwards get $100,000 then a 100,000 jokes about Anne. The money will go towards someone who fighting prejudice and is real action. Jokes do nothing.
HotFlash @ 64
the whole idea is stupid. they’re going to wait around for money to step on her toes? the time to do that was yesterday and it wouldn’t have cost them any money to do it. i’m wondering if some of kerry’s campaign crew is working for edwards now. if this keeps up much longer he’s toast, and i think he’d make a good candidate……
Oh, I feel so used…merely a justification for indulging one’s addiction to sugar products shaped only loosely like immature poultry.
The shame, the shame.
Personally, I prefer the Peeps of Autumn, especially the black cats and bats. They come in chocolate marshamallow, too. The bats are much larger than the chick Peeps, make for much longer Peep jousts.
Although I recommend not demonstrating Peep jousts to children under age 7 (roughly second grade). You will rue the day.
The important thing is to neutralize Coulter. Attack her credibility (am I the only one who thought, when I read her remark, is this the best you can do? Calling a married, father of 3 a f*ggot? I mean, I know he’d make a very nice looking woman, on that sort of Halloween costume-y level– but otherwise, I just found it weak).
The feeling here is that those like Coulter and the Bush Republicans view accommodation and fighting by Marquess of Queensbury rules and compromise as weakness. I subscribe the Geronimo school of thought along these lines.
laurie9 @ 79
Uh, she sells books with this bullshit.
ReneND @ 47
Rene, you’re right, it’s PFAW. Here’s a link if anyone is interested.
laurie9 @ 79
that’s the ticket ……
Just got in from grocery shopping with my youngest, who had to have a box of pink peeps. I ate one as soon as we hit the door.
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 69
Even conservative men can’t stand Ann as her unmarried, childless status proves.
Even conservative women can’t stand her because none of them have told her to stop dressing like a tramp, wearing black cocktail shifts at inappropriate hours.
Frank Probst @ 62
Thank you for sharing your analysis;
and Thank You for your optimism.
Both are helpful!
Some of us fight fire with fire. Some of us do not.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 87
Where’s the NorskeFlamethrower when ya need him?
laurie9 @ 79
Coulter’s comments are an attempt at the classic Rove textbook play, “Attack on Strength”.
Something somewhere has told this wretch and her handlers that Edwards’ good looks are a strength for him, probably with women — so they send out a woman to bash him on his looks.
Unfortunately this feeble effort doesn’t make Edwards’ less attractive, nor does it take on Edwards’ other strengths.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 87
Fighting fire with fire does not require one to use the same kind of fuel.
laurie9 @ 79
Now, on the other hand, you have your fine upstanding Republican ‘manly men’ like Ted Haggard and Mark Foley.
Alicia @ 91
Manly men doing manly things…just like the ancent Greeks!
EvilDrPuma @ 92
Holla!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 87
LOS ANGELES, Mar 3, 2007 (UPI via COMTEX) –
The long-suffering cavemen in the Geico insurance commercials will become
stars of their own prime-time sitcom, ABC TV Studio in Los Angeles said.
The three pre-historic men — offended in the commercials at the suggestion
that Geico’s Web site is so easy to use that “a caveman could do it” — will
endure insults and prejudice as they attempt to lead a normal life in modern
Atlanta, Variety said.
Executive producers are Daniel Rappaport, Guymon Cassady, Will Speck and
Josh Gordon. Speck and Gordon also are scheduled to direct.
Few TV shows have come out of the commercial sphere, Variety said, however,
30-second spots have featured TV characters, such as ALF, the alien creature
from the same-named NBC show.
Just saw that fly by, it made me laugh.
Anyways, going back to what’s on my mind, it is John Salomon’s WH stenography that has me upset today. It really needs calling out.
EvilDrPuma @ 90
Perhaps we shall just have to disagree. ;0)
Precisely, Alicia. Not to mention a male whore named James D. Gukert operating out of the White House.
Coulter is a profoundly unserious creature. What’s being invoked here is not any literal accusation, but rather the dimissive power of calling someone a faggot –whether they are gay or not.
Also, the more money that is raised in response to attacks like Annes, the better chance it has to neutralize her and others.
Her platform to speak out and make these comments will be reduced when real dollars demonstrate the resolve of the people being attacked. Instead raising funds for them, she will end up raising funds for us.
It’s a way of turning it around since the traditional media is silent.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 95
Why do you keep saying that when you really seem to be trying to ignore the point?
Perhaps we shall just have to disagree. ;0)
Nah, let’s keep saying the same stuff over and over, it’s sorta boring here in the hospital!
Perhaps we shall just have to disagree. ;0)
Nah, let’s keep saying the same stuff over and over, it’s sorta boring here in the hospital!
jeffreyw @ 75
That’s funny. I told a girlfriend yesterday that following DC is the soap nobody could dream up. Except that it’s deadly serious.
You are a very sweet husband, Jeffrey!
raven, too funny
It seems pretty ridiculous to expose the party’s weakness like that – to actually introduce the gay thing into evidence, as it were, and opening up the opportunity to talk about the fact that Republican gays must stay in the closet to be accepted by their party.
Is that the corollary to Rove’s “Attack Their Strength” strategy? “Attack With Our Weakness”?
Raven – hope your vigil is not too worrysome and your dad feels better.
EvilDrPuma @ 98
I am not ignoring the point. You have your views and others perhaps have differing perceptions. I see no point in continuing the discussion.
Alicia — IMO, the appropriate response is to call them on it.
Edwards should say, “That’s it? That’s your response to your failure to improve the lives of Americans? You’re going to use fear-mongering attacks on my appearance and sexuality instead of providing better governance? Call me when you’re ready to talk about what really matters to Americans. Otherwise you’re just wasting our time.”
Kathryn in MA @ 104
Thanks, the heart surgeon was just here and is very encouraged by his progress. Bob said something abot his vision being a bit blurry and he said (in a very positive way) thank god you are alive! (It’s actually my wife’s pop).
I am not ignoring the point. You have your views and others perhaps have differing perceptions. I see no point in continuing the discussion.
Chill MOFO’s or I’ll have to crack your heads together like coconuts! Metaphorically of course. . .I wouldn’t dream of actual physical violence!
raven @ 108
Chill MOFO’s or I’ll have to crack your heads together like coconuts! Metaphorically of course. . .I wouldn’t dream of actual physical violence!
give them toothpicks…
Maybe Ann C. is one of the best things we have going. Leave her alone. She is doing a great job. Even tried and true reps are disgusted with her, such as MM. Keep it up Ann. Your doing great.(you idiot)
pat @ 110
Hey, that comment gives idiots a bad name!
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 68
As in, “John Edwards is not a faggot.” Somehow I don’t think that’s how we should tackle this.
Perhaps Mr. Edwards could say publicly, condecendingly, and with a shark-like grin, “Ms Coulter, could you please clarify what you mean?” Or, “Ms Coulter, would you like for the two of us to publicly discuss our respective sexual orientations sometime (name a place, date and time).” Or, “Ms Coulter, why does my sexual orientation matter to you so much?” Or, “Ms Coulter, why do you think that calling someone a faggot is insulting him?” Or, “Ms Coulter, could you please tell us who has threatened to put you into rehap for saying ‘faggot’ as I believe that is erroneous and if true, may be illegal and should be investigated.”
I have checked Edwards’ website but I refuse to watch any video that starts with a picture of Ann Coulter and that appears to be the only information on the matter there. Does every Dem presidential candidate have to be a Dumb presidential candidate? This guy cannot think on his feet, a quality we are really going to need. If our Dem candidate cannot do this we may find ourselves with two Dem houses and a Dem president and the Repubs will still run roughshod over them. Jeesh!
HotFlash @
112
He should go with this: “Ms Coulter, I’d just like to say that I’ve never had sex with a man. Have you?”
raven @ 100
Nah, let’s keep saying the same stuff over and over, it’s sorta boring here in the hospital!
Comes a time
when the blind man takes your hand
says: don’t you see?
BTW, one last thought on the Reggie Walton memo: I think the odds of Libby being remanded if he’s convicted just went way up. I’d say we’re at about a 50/50 chance now. Why? Because one of the things that goes into the decision to let someone stay out of jail while they appeal is the chance that their appeal(s) will be successful. Reggie Walton, I think, just evaluated that chance and more or less said, “Not so much.”
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 69
I strongly disagree …… Facts bounce off their frame….
Wingnut Frame….. Gore is a hypocrite – preaches global warming & has high use of resources. Facts no matter bounce off of their frame….
Coulter frame of Edwards – “Faggot” then he is NOT manly enough to keep America safe…. a whimp, add those words…..
How to fight it……. Have the darling Eliz Edwards….. do a one on one interview….. a shy giggle with the eyebrows up/down about Edwards manlyness in marriage and you have reframed the whole thing.
EvilDrPuma @ 89
Absolutely. And in a fight one can hit below the belt or follow Marquis of Queensbury rules. If Coulter swings a dirty punch without a match being declared, the honorable response is a clean fair punch that decks her. And doesn’t break a sweat.
What is happening is Edwards gets a fist in the nuts and his response is ‘3 diamonds’. John, John, she’s not playing bridge! Oy!
Iraq is on my mind.
Iraq: Three Consequences We All Should Support
Frank Probst @ 112
Yes, exactly! Beat her at her game and do it with wit, style and class (the contrast should be immediately obvious to the most casual observer. Nicely done, Frank.
katymine @ 116
You are absolutely correct, Katymine – any fact that does not fit into their frame simply slides off. I like your idea for a response, too!
zig alert!
BTW has anyone been following Jeffery Feldman’s series on Violent speech by the wingnuts?
Over at http://www.frameshopisopen.com, he has been laying out the whole thing. He has challenged leaders to counter this type of speech even doing stats on violence against groups and how it relates to the winds of change in parties who are in charge. This is serious, one of our state rep’s who spoke at Yearlykos received some really serious threats because she introduced legislation to regulate the Minutemen and other groups.
I tried to watch Romney on Cspan yesterday, but it was very grim. His wife is charismatic and will be an asset, and she mentioned their 37 year marriage three times in her brief moment onstage, which I hope achieved its intended purpose of drawing attention to Giuliani, McCain, and Gingrich’s extramarital adventures and multiple divorces.
Grover Norquist’s intro for Romney emphasized that the new president would have to have “competence” which to me indicates that the GOP is feeling a bit anxious about this criterion. The audience seemed put off by his metaphor of Romney’s being governor of Massachusetts as analagous to Ginger Rogers having to dance backwards and in high heels, and when Romeny asked them to visualize him in high heels, there was a baffled and, I surmised, offended silence. I was thinking, poor strategy, you guys, this is not the audience for that joke.
But when Romney said that he had “emigrated from Massachussetts to America” (he did not even say “real America”, thereby branding the state he was governor of as outside America) I could not handle it any more and turned it off. The audience was clapping wildly.
Later on, I turned it on for a bit during Mike Huckabee’s speech. He was saying that the Second Amendment right to bear arms was the first and most important of our rights, and that it was essential to preserve our liberties from the government. More wild clapping. No mention of habeas corpus, freedom of speech, wiretapping, etc.
I meant to watch more to get a feel for where they will be going, but it is just too cringe-making. I have a strong feeling that neither of them, and especially Romney, believe in their “priciples” and the rhetoric is carefully crafted for the audience. We need to talk about this more–otherwise we make it sound like the right is crazy but principled, and Hillary and Clinton manipulative and posturing, the sole preserve of Democratic politiicians. Both Romney and Huckabee held their faces rigid and stared hard at the audience as they said this stuff–they were having trouble looking like they believed it. When Kennedy and Feingold talk, it bubbles out of them, their faces are expressive.
Anyone else have observations or see the other candidates?
Here is a Mother Jones article about a conservative who is pushing back against Coulter. I think you will see more and more of this as she hurts their cause.
http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfr…..ulter.html
More violence at the hands of Coultergist:
http://www.lydiacornell.com/20…..ntent.html
ENTERPRISE, Ala. – On a mournful mission President Bush climbed over piles of concrete, roofing, insulation, broken glass and textbooks Saturday that littered Enterprise High School, battered by a tornado that killed eight students.
They only prop missing is the bullhorn, Mr. Prez.
Frank Probst @
115
WooHoo!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 126
chimpy’s live on cnn right now from GA…
Witney @ 42
If someone can send me more details on this event I’ll be happy to contact C-Span and recommend they have a crew present to tape for future broadcast. How I would love to be there but am on the west coast.
newspaperbrat AT google DOT com
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katymine @ 125
Lydia herself has received death threats when the Coultergeist published her personal info on her site, a la Malkin.
Terry Olson @ 127
IANAL, far from it (and I have not yet read the memo), but I thought that Walton saying he should have testified seems to increase the likelihood that they will argue ineffective assistance of counsel on appeal.
Half an hour ago I heard that the Scum, our Administration, led by the arch Scum Holy George and Thief Dick, has pulled ‘National Security’ concerning CIA international snatch squads so that Al Masri’s case had no legs.
Just what do these Pieces of S— think they are doing? We have to trade to survive, and they are closing off the vestiges of goodwill in other countries.
“Here Mr Al Masri, here is a large sum of money, and here is an equally large Apology. We screwed up, and we are very very sorry. (You know how it is: it is just so hard to get good help nowadays!)”
Oklahoma kiddo @ 125
You mean he brought his codpiece?
Tis Scum, indeed.
Going for a cleansing walk now.
Rayne @89: I think you hit it. Send Coulter out to feminize the handsome Edwards. And, let’s face it, whatever anybody thinks of his politics, he’s a nice-looking man. They did it in ‘04 too. Then, it was his hair. No doubt the envy of Joe Biden and Trent Lott, it earned him the nickname, “Breck Girl.”
Alicia @91: Interesting that you bring up Mark Foley. Coulter was on Bill O’Reilly during the whole page brouhaha, defending Foley. That he was being accused of stalking pages because he was gay and that wasn’t fair. The term she chose was “gay” and she showed no disrespect for Foley or his sexual orientation. Yet she shows up at the big conservative show and uses the n-word equivalent, faggot, to describe a Democrat. Nothing deranged about Coulter. She knows who butters her toast. Like her soulmate Karl Rove, she’s an amoral, opportunistic, your noun-of-choice here.
From the comments at Your blog:
This is very much to the point. Leadership SHOULD be worried…except that they don’t really care because our military is a means to achieving the chaos they want in the middle east. Makes it easier to steal stuff.
HotFlash @ 133
;0)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 137
My sister was … um …
vituperoussnarky today when telling me of the President’s visit.yellow snapdragon @
131
Like you, I am not a lawyer, but bearing in mind two thoughts – Scooter is a lawyer and no expense was spared on his defense – I can’t imagine a successful appeal on the grounds you mentioned. Furthermore, please keep in mind that the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals already has some inkling of what this case is all about, based on what we know of Judge Tatel’s redacted opinion mentioned many threads ago.
It’s not like guys are going to walk away from their posts. But there is a slow, steady advance of mutinous feeling. And with the leadership we’ve got, all it takes is some missing strawberries…
This is very much to the point. Leadership SHOULD be worried…except that they don’t really care because our military is a means to achieving the chaos they want in the middle east. Makes it easier to steal stuff.
IMHO we are a long was from any “Vietnam Syndrome”. There was a convergence of social forces in the 60’s that we are not going to see anytime soon. The military is a a reflection of society. . .if we weren’t depressed enough already.
Isn’t Coulter already in a bit of a jam with messing with the wrong voting precinct in Florida – something to do with arrogantly violating their state election code?
And doesn’t the FCC have laws about malicious libel or slander and/or hate speech subjecting networks to penalties?
I’m just sayin’ if some firepup lawyers could help direct us to actual statutes we may be able to raise a ruckus with FCC as citizens across the US by demanding action for her malicious smearing of John Edwards.
Of course this is the sort action that the DNC ought to be doing but they hardly have a grip on anything much less former Senator John Edwards whom they treat as an outside much like they had tried to do with Dr.Howard Dean (to their chagrin).
newspaperbrat @ 129
thanks – I just sent you the link via email.
yellow snapdragon @ 131
That’s not what the memo says. The memo says that Libby cannot claim that his Fifth Amendment rights were violated by not allowing all the graymail into evidence. It does NOT say that Libby (or Cheney) should have testified.
newspaperbrat:
Its being put on by People for the American Way.
http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/
I sent you email, but came back with a failure notice.
This:
DHS Confirms Real ID Act Regulations Coming; States Rebel
A republican no less. I see this as an opportunity. Here is what it’s about and why people on both sides of the isle are concerned:
That’s the issue but take a look at this:
I’m all for it. This is a window of opportunity to make common cause with some republicans and at the same time to actually fight further erosion of our civil liberties. While I and no doubt many of us can be perhaps a little partisan at times. I think we should seize issues like these because they are simply the right things to do. Anyone who supports us in repealing this dreadful legislation is on our side, GOP or Dem, anyone opposed is not. That’s my opinion anyway.
Kathryn in MA @ 104
Raven—
Sounds like his heart surgery recovery is coming along but what’s up w kidneys? I mean only if you feel like sharing of course.
At the CPAC on Cspan yesterday, where I heard Romney and Huckabee, there was loud and prolonged clapping when they announced that Ann Coulter would talk later on. It is hard to gage these things via TV, but the CPAC audience certainly seemed enthusiastic about her.
egregious @ 146
They are happy with the progress on the kidneys, can’t give the numbers but the doc’s say they are good! thx
The Fragrant Condi has either picked, or had picked for her, another member of The lobby/PNAC/AIPAC (and i think of WHIG?), Eliot cohen, as her Counsel. Har! Har! Har! If picked for her her days might be numbered. The choice adds another brick to the wall of probability that Bush will do Israel’s bidding and attack Iran.
Witney @ 144
Thanks for the link – I’ll get right on this. I have an old college friend who works with Brian Lamb and she has proven very helpful in the past and it has long been my experience that the network appreciates viewer programming suggestions that may have beem overlooked.
I hope you are right–and I don’t doubt that you are. But I can’t imagine that the appellate team wouldn’t toss the ineffective assistance charge on appeal. Having the trial court say that the defense would have had a stronger case if it had only done X seems difficult to ignore. Unless, of course, the appellate attorney is on the current defense team, then he couldn’t argue that he himself provided ineffective assistance.
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Frank Probst @
115
First optimism, then hope!
would like to see him remanded immediately before the wurlitzer gets warmed up
bobbles – thanks for monitoring this – i don’t have the constitution for such dreck – cringe making indeed.
Frank Probst @ 143
I was basing my comment on the Raw Story headline about Cheney’s not testifying. As mentioned, I have not read the memo myself.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0302.html
The swiftboaters know the debunking doesn’t get out to all the folks. Just last Sunday, during our regular political rant session with my inlaws, mom-in-law who isn’t nor has ever been a republican, proved that sad fact. We were discussing the suddenly rightwing moral McCain when she said mentioned his “illegimate black child”. She was disgusted & horrified that the bush mob had made that up and that she didn’t know that.
new thread upstairs
Frank Probst @ 115
Thanks Frank; you must have read my mind. Tell me, is Walton the final decisionmaker on whether Libby goes directly to jail or would he have an opportunity to appeal to another judge?
newspaperbrat @ 150
I think this may be a fundraiser. Doubt if they will let someone televise it. Send someone to Liveblog, maybe.
ReneND @
7
This is EPU’d, but what the hell:
I’m actually in Minnesota — I started calling myself “Phoenix Woman” back when I hung out at Salon’s Table Talk message boards, well, just because!
Lindy @
136
Actually, the REAL leadership IS worried — that’s why a goodly number of Pentagon brass (supposedly including Gates himself) have threatened to resign if Bush attacks Iran, because they know what a disaster that would be.
beth meacham @ 10
Isn’t there a web site somewhere that gives directions for Peeps Jousts? Link-y?
I must ask? Where are the peeps beaks in the box you bought?
Me loves peeps.
These are indeed grim times for America.
-GSD
Mauimom (161) –
See the Wikipedia entry on Peeps for a general overview of jousting, along with links at bottom of the page to other Peeps resources.
My kids and I generall conduct a joust by placing two Peeps, each armed with a toothpick, across from each other so that the toothpicks just rest agaist the “chest” of the opposing Peep. They are placed on a microwave-safe glass or ceramic plate so that they do not stick to the microwave. A cycle of as short ast 10 seconds to as long as one minute is set, depending on the power level of your machine. The so-called “winner” is the Peep which does not fall over and whose toothpick sword enters the “chest” of the opposing Peep. Ties are extremely common. Depending results, longer additional cycles may be needed to declare a winner.
CAVEAT: PEEPS MUST BE WATCHED CAREFULLY DURING MICROWAVING PROCESS. USE CAUTION WHEN HANDLING MICROWAVED PEEPS. Peeps, being made primarily of sugar and air, will soften and expand during the heating process. The sugar in the Peeps will superheat and can burn if not allowed to cool adequately before handling or disposing of “decease” Peeps by eating. Sugar-based tongue burns are extremely painful, based on anecdotal evidence.
The only thing on my mind is how we’re going to get the republiscum bastards out of office and begin to put our country on a better path.
Oh, I just knew I had some Peep goodness tucked away in the recesses of my old blog…hope these links still work:
Lord of the Peeps – LOTR painstakingly enacted by Peeps
MWT about Peeps — from Salon archives
Peep Porn — how about some hot chick-on-Peep action?
Peep Jousting — Safe for those with pacemakers; no microwaves in use!
Raw Story reports that Bush’s push for privitization at Walter Reed lead to an former exec at guess where? Halliburton! getting contract to provide “services”.
Impeach these bastards!
Rayne @ 161
Thanks so much.
And BTW, shouldn’t the Olbermann fete be sponsored by Peeps for the American Way? Could make a great diorama of that!!
Check out http://www.peepresearch.org/surgery.html#results
for a great peep-laugh!
If you microwave peeps long enough they turn into a yellow puddle with just their little brown eyes bugging out. I suggest paper plates since the ensuing goo pancake is almost impossible to clean up.
This has been an Easter tradition in my house for a very long time.