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		<title>By: Maddy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/02/wwdsd/#comment-536998</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-535284&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;amilius @&lt;br /&gt;
                6              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Perhaps someday soon our leaders might explore the implications of this acronym for ‘PEACE’- ‘Perfect Expressing Abundance, Create Experience’.  Hint: in this instance, ‘Perfect’ is a verb.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now that deserves an amen again again&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-535284"><em>amilius @<br />
                6              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Perhaps someday soon our leaders might explore the implications of this acronym for ‘PEACE’- ‘Perfect Expressing Abundance, Create Experience’.  Hint: in this instance, ‘Perfect’ is a verb.</p>
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<p>Now that deserves an amen again again</p>
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		<title>By: Maddy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/02/wwdsd/#comment-536992</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;cows tail,&lt;br /&gt;
There is not much soul in an acronym conjured up out of the black fog of bureaucratic bumbling is there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cows tail,<br />
There is not much soul in an acronym conjured up out of the black fog of bureaucratic bumbling is there.</p>
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		<title>By: The Oracle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/02/wwdsd/#comment-536327</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 10:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The corrupt Republicans first roll-out Total Information Awareness, which sounds like some intelligence gathering program the Communists or East Germans (or any other totalitarian police state) might establish.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An uproar ensues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then, the corrupt Republicans change the name and start trying to hide the program from public scrutiny, at the same time crying “national security, national security.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We all know what’s up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The corrupt Republicans, especially Alberto Gonzales, view anyone that disagrees with their hardcore, right-wing beliefs and policies as a “national security” threat…to them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thus, this latest mutation of Total Information Awareness will go after any Islamic, hardcore, right-wing religious terrorists lurking about (hey, no problem with that), but will also go after the druggies, the pornies, and even any anti-Bushite, anti-fascism bloggies (like at FDL), as well as anyone politically opposed (as in Democratic, Libertarian, Green, moderate Republican, etc) to the hardcore, right-wing nutjobs in the RNC and Bush administration.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This was easy to predict. All conservatives around the world (Republican, Communist, Islamicist, etc) cannot tolerate having anything not under their control, well, not under their control. And the internet fits this description perfectly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, the conservative Communists in Red China data-mine and try to shutdown anything on “their” internet that threatens their control, including shutting down pornography as much as possible. (But I thought they were atheists). The conservative Islamicists have tried to limit access to the internet, while also conducting data-mining, especially going after pornography, too, just like the Communist Red Chinese.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, the conservative Republicans? The same. Limit access. Data-mine. Go after the pornography. And punish anyone who doens’t “get with” the conservative Republican agenda for America…which hardly has anything to do with freedom, privacy or the right of all U.S. citizens to be free from tyranny.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What? The Communist Red Chinese leaders conservative? I thought they were lefties? Then why do the Communists keep acting like Republicans and the Republicans keep acting like Communists, especially in regards to the internet? Conservative control-freaks are the same all over the world. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(And even Democrats are susceptible to this. Video games? Alcohol? Drugs? Pornography? Cigarettes? Guns? Meat-eating? What do you feel should be censored and eradicated to make the world a better and safer place? Well, join the crowd. You’re a conservative. And all conservatives believe that limiting the freedom of others somehow enhances their own freedom, even though the opposite effect always occurs. In other words, the loss of freedom by one invariably entails the loss of freedom by all, including the loss of freedom for future generations.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The corrupt Republicans first roll-out Total Information Awareness, which sounds like some intelligence gathering program the Communists or East Germans (or any other totalitarian police state) might establish.</p>
<p>An uproar ensues.</p>
<p>Then, the corrupt Republicans change the name and start trying to hide the program from public scrutiny, at the same time crying “national security, national security.”</p>
<p>We all know what’s up.</p>
<p>The corrupt Republicans, especially Alberto Gonzales, view anyone that disagrees with their hardcore, right-wing beliefs and policies as a “national security” threat…to them.</p>
<p>Thus, this latest mutation of Total Information Awareness will go after any Islamic, hardcore, right-wing religious terrorists lurking about (hey, no problem with that), but will also go after the druggies, the pornies, and even any anti-Bushite, anti-fascism bloggies (like at FDL), as well as anyone politically opposed (as in Democratic, Libertarian, Green, moderate Republican, etc) to the hardcore, right-wing nutjobs in the RNC and Bush administration.</p>
<p>This was easy to predict. All conservatives around the world (Republican, Communist, Islamicist, etc) cannot tolerate having anything not under their control, well, not under their control. And the internet fits this description perfectly.</p>
<p>So, the conservative Communists in Red China data-mine and try to shutdown anything on “their” internet that threatens their control, including shutting down pornography as much as possible. (But I thought they were atheists). The conservative Islamicists have tried to limit access to the internet, while also conducting data-mining, especially going after pornography, too, just like the Communist Red Chinese.</p>
<p>So, the conservative Republicans? The same. Limit access. Data-mine. Go after the pornography. And punish anyone who doens’t “get with” the conservative Republican agenda for America…which hardly has anything to do with freedom, privacy or the right of all U.S. citizens to be free from tyranny.</p>
<p>What? The Communist Red Chinese leaders conservative? I thought they were lefties? Then why do the Communists keep acting like Republicans and the Republicans keep acting like Communists, especially in regards to the internet? Conservative control-freaks are the same all over the world. </p>
<p>(And even Democrats are susceptible to this. Video games? Alcohol? Drugs? Pornography? Cigarettes? Guns? Meat-eating? What do you feel should be censored and eradicated to make the world a better and safer place? Well, join the crowd. You’re a conservative. And all conservatives believe that limiting the freedom of others somehow enhances their own freedom, even though the opposite effect always occurs. In other words, the loss of freedom by one invariably entails the loss of freedom by all, including the loss of freedom for future generations.)</p>
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		<title>By: mhpcr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/02/wwdsd/#comment-536045</link>
		<dc:creator>mhpcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 04:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-535284&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;amilius @ 6 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Perhaps someday soon our leaders might explore the implications of this acronym for ‘PEACE’- ‘Perfect Expressing Abundance, Create Experience’.  Hint: in this instance, ‘Perfect’ is a verb.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where  were we?  Here:  Now, my father the minister, in Carnaby, loving it,  and sort of and loving me; away from the crowd.  I like it!!!!!!!   I’ll never forget, and his death meant so much.   &lt;em&gt;Ode on the Anniversary&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-535284"><em>amilius @ 6 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Perhaps someday soon our leaders might explore the implications of this acronym for ‘PEACE’- ‘Perfect Expressing Abundance, Create Experience’.  Hint: in this instance, ‘Perfect’ is a verb.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Where  were we?  Here:  Now, my father the minister, in Carnaby, loving it,  and sort of and loving me; away from the crowd.  I like it!!!!!!!   I’ll never forget, and his death meant so much.   <em>Ode on the Anniversary</em></p>
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		<title>By: Stus</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/02/wwdsd/#comment-535700</link>
		<dc:creator>Stus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is Admiral Poindexter involved with this?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Admiral Poindexter involved with this?</p>
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		<title>By: EvilDrPuma</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/02/wwdsd/#comment-535687</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilDrPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It would no doubt be more honest to call the program &lt;b&gt;S&lt;/b&gt;eeking &lt;b&gt;P&lt;/b&gt;olitical &lt;b&gt;A&lt;/b&gt;dvantage by &lt;b&gt;S&lt;/b&gt;pying on &lt;b&gt;M&lt;/b&gt;urkins. That seems to be the whole of BushCo’s national insecurity policy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would no doubt be more honest to call the program <b>S</b>eeking <b>P</b>olitical <b>A</b>dvantage by <b>S</b>pying on <b>M</b>urkins. That seems to be the whole of BushCo’s national insecurity policy.</p>
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		<title>By: EvilDrPuma</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/02/wwdsd/#comment-535685</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilDrPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-535484&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bdu @ 111 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-535482&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Terry Olson @&lt;br /&gt;
                109   re: 1984           &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m re-reading it right now.  Should be required reading in high school.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was required reading in mine.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mine, too…or, in any case, the AP English teacher used it. Thank God for Mrs. Kopecky.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-535484"><em>bdu @ 111 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-535482"><em>Terry Olson @<br />
                109   re: 1984           </em></a> </p>
<blockquote>
<p>I’m re-reading it right now.  Should be required reading in high school.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>It was required reading in mine.</p>
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<p>Mine, too…or, in any case, the AP English teacher used it. Thank God for Mrs. Kopecky.</p>
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		<title>By: EvilDrPuma</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/02/wwdsd/#comment-535680</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilDrPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-535620&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;chaboard @ 125 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
A nice little amendment excluding anyone who served under, donated to or worked on the campaign of a President from receiving a pardon from that President should do the trick.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or from his VP, if that person should later hold the power of the presidency. But as a whole, I think your modification is a better way of dealing with the abuse of pardon power than eliminating that power altogether.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>
A nice little amendment excluding anyone who served under, donated to or worked on the campaign of a President from receiving a pardon from that President should do the trick.</p>
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<p>Or from his VP, if that person should later hold the power of the presidency. But as a whole, I think your modification is a better way of dealing with the abuse of pardon power than eliminating that power altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: skippy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/02/wwdsd/#comment-535660</link>
		<dc:creator>skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;poor dr. seuss!  the man is quite dead!&lt;br /&gt;
he’s dead in his toes!  he’s dead in his head!&lt;br /&gt;
he’s dead in his finger!  he’s dead in his knee!&lt;br /&gt;
he’s deader than deadlio-deady can be!&lt;br /&gt;
it’s not really his birthday, ‘cuz he’s not really here,&lt;br /&gt;
it’s only his birth anniversary, my dear!&lt;br /&gt;
tho we loved the guy so, all his books we have read,&lt;br /&gt;
but he’s deadlio-deadiest-deadier-dead!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poor dr. seuss!  the man is quite dead!<br />
he’s dead in his toes!  he’s dead in his head!<br />
he’s dead in his finger!  he’s dead in his knee!<br />
he’s deader than deadlio-deady can be!<br />
it’s not really his birthday, ‘cuz he’s not really here,<br />
it’s only his birth anniversary, my dear!<br />
tho we loved the guy so, all his books we have read,<br />
but he’s deadlio-deadiest-deadier-dead!</p>
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		<title>By: chaboard</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/03/02/wwdsd/#comment-535620</link>
		<dc:creator>chaboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-535385&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Peterr @&lt;br /&gt;
                59              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-535376&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dru @ 55&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Peterr @&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Every time I start to think like this, I think of the folks pardoned in Illinois after so many innocent folks had their convictions overturned when additional evidence turned up. Sure, it can be abused, but it’s also the ultimate safety valve in an imperfect system of justice.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those were pardons by the Gov., no? and for a reason?(innocence)  Those are a lot different than the Prez letting his minions / rich buddies off the hook.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;IL Gov Ryan issued a blanket commutation of all of Illinois’ death row inmates, because a high number of folks had their convictions overturned when additional evidence was turned up by journalism students at Northwestern University. One error in a capital case can be called a mistake, two are a problem, but when multiple cases were found to be faulty, Ryan called a halt to it and converted everyone else’s sentences to life in prison.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not a full pardon, but using the same power at the governor’s level to change the sentence imposed at trial.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And yes, this is different from letting your buds walk instead of doing time. But unless you can come up with something that allows something like what Ryan did while preventing abuses, I guess I’d rather live with the possibility for abuse.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A nice little amendment excluding anyone who served under, donated to or worked on the campaign of a&lt;br /&gt;
President from receiving a pardon from that President should do the trick.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-535385"><em>Peterr @<br />
                59              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-535376"><em>Dru @ 55</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Peterr @
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<blockquote><p>Every time I start to think like this, I think of the folks pardoned in Illinois after so many innocent folks had their convictions overturned when additional evidence turned up. Sure, it can be abused, but it’s also the ultimate safety valve in an imperfect system of justice.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Those were pardons by the Gov., no? and for a reason?(innocence)  Those are a lot different than the Prez letting his minions / rich buddies off the hook.</p>
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<p>IL Gov Ryan issued a blanket commutation of all of Illinois’ death row inmates, because a high number of folks had their convictions overturned when additional evidence was turned up by journalism students at Northwestern University. One error in a capital case can be called a mistake, two are a problem, but when multiple cases were found to be faulty, Ryan called a halt to it and converted everyone else’s sentences to life in prison.</p>
<p>Not a full pardon, but using the same power at the governor’s level to change the sentence imposed at trial.</p>
<p>And yes, this is different from letting your buds walk instead of doing time. But unless you can come up with something that allows something like what Ryan did while preventing abuses, I guess I’d rather live with the possibility for abuse.</p>
<p>A nice little amendment excluding anyone who served under, donated to or worked on the campaign of a<br />
President from receiving a pardon from that President should do the trick.</p>
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