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		<title>By: Every Village&#8217;s Blog &#187; Time For Some Reality</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/28/time-for-some-reality/#comment-530852</link>
		<dc:creator>Every Village&#8217;s Blog &#187; Time For Some Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Arnie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/28/time-for-some-reality/#comment-530770</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-530189&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dr Zen @&lt;br /&gt;
                96              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Breaking things is easier than putting them together.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On cluster bombs: I didn’t follow this in the news, but I find it really hard to believe that &lt;b&gt;any&lt;/b&gt; Democrats voted against the amendment! You have to be kidding. You weren’t even banning them! Just asking for stronger RoE. You have to not vote for these people if they want to be your president. That means Clinton. If she’s going to pander to the wingnuts, let them have her.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Decision time: Either one is part of the solution, OR they are part of the problem - simple as that. It is up to you; it is up to them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-530189"><em>Dr Zen @<br />
                96              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Breaking things is easier than putting them together.</p>
<p>On cluster bombs: I didn’t follow this in the news, but I find it really hard to believe that <b>any</b> Democrats voted against the amendment! You have to be kidding. You weren’t even banning them! Just asking for stronger RoE. You have to not vote for these people if they want to be your president. That means Clinton. If she’s going to pander to the wingnuts, let them have her.</p>
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<p>Decision time: Either one is part of the solution, OR they are part of the problem &#8211; simple as that. It is up to you; it is up to them.</p>
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		<title>By: S.O.S. in MA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/28/time-for-some-reality/#comment-530244</link>
		<dc:creator>S.O.S. in MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-530094&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LindaR @  32              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; … I think it is &lt;i&gt;arguably&lt;/i&gt; on topic: … &lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Good stuff.  And quite more on topic than this next.  More shameless promotion, but only for a paean to Fitz…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If U &lt;em&gt;didn’t&lt;/em&gt; see it already, p’raps check out my  &lt;b&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/yvu7pa&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/yvu7pa&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/b&gt; from last wk…  &lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Based on &lt;b&gt;Wolverine&lt;/b&gt;’s excellent start on &lt;i&gt;“The Wrath Of Big Patrick Fitzgerald”&lt;/i&gt; that we adapted from &lt;b&gt;Gordon Lightfoot&lt;/b&gt;’s original lyric of &lt;i&gt;“The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald”&lt;/i&gt; … some FDLers seemed to like it… &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-530094"><em>LindaR @  32              </em></a>
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<blockquote><p> … I think it is <i>arguably</i> on topic: … </p></blockquote>
<p> Good stuff.  And quite more on topic than this next.  More shameless promotion, but only for a paean to Fitz…</p>
<blockquote><p>If U <em>didn’t</em> see it already, p’raps check out my  <b> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yvu7pa">http://tinyurl.com/yvu7pa</a> </b> from last wk…  </p></blockquote>
<p>Based on <b>Wolverine</b>’s excellent start on <i>“The Wrath Of Big Patrick Fitzgerald”</i> that we adapted from <b>Gordon Lightfoot</b>’s original lyric of <i>“The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald”</i> … some FDLers seemed to like it… </p>
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		<title>By: karen allen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/28/time-for-some-reality/#comment-530222</link>
		<dc:creator>karen allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Every human life has value.  It doesn’t matter if the person or child is beautiful or unattractive.  Killing is wrong.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every human life has value.  It doesn’t matter if the person or child is beautiful or unattractive.  Killing is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Cozumel</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/28/time-for-some-reality/#comment-530210</link>
		<dc:creator>Cozumel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-530170&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;angie @ 83 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh, and who voted against the Leahy-Feinstein amendment to ban cluster bombs, etc?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200609/090606a.html&quot;&gt;http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200609/090606a.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strike&gt;Bayh&lt;/strike&gt;, &lt;strike&gt;Biden&lt;/strike&gt;, &lt;strike&gt;Clinton&lt;/strike&gt; ,&lt;strike&gt;Dodd&lt;/strike&gt; ,&lt;strike&gt;Inouye&lt;/strike&gt; ,&lt;strike&gt;Landrieu&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;strike&gt;Lautenberg&lt;/strike&gt; ,&lt;strike&gt;Lieberman&lt;/strike&gt; ,&lt;strike&gt;Lincoln&lt;/strike&gt; ,&lt;strike&gt;Nelson&lt;/strike&gt;,&lt;strike&gt;Pryor&lt;/strike&gt;, &lt;strike&gt;Rockefeller&lt;/strike&gt;, &lt;strike&gt;Salazar&lt;/strike&gt;, &lt;strike&gt;Schumer&lt;/strike&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For SHAME.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Angie. Good to know&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-530170"><em>angie @ 83 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Oh, and who voted against the Leahy-Feinstein amendment to ban cluster bombs, etc?</p>
<p><a href="http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200609/090606a.html">http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200609/090606a.html</a></p>
<p><strike>Bayh</strike>, <strike>Biden</strike>, <strike>Clinton</strike> ,<strike>Dodd</strike> ,<strike>Inouye</strike> ,<strike>Landrieu</strike> <strike>Lautenberg</strike> ,<strike>Lieberman</strike> ,<strike>Lincoln</strike> ,<strike>Nelson</strike>,<strike>Pryor</strike>, <strike>Rockefeller</strike>, <strike>Salazar</strike>, <strike>Schumer</strike></p>
<p>For SHAME.</p>
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<p>Thanks, Angie. Good to know</p>
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		<title>By: bonkers</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/28/time-for-some-reality/#comment-530208</link>
		<dc:creator>bonkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gotta do more study, but Obama has seemed to vote the right way, meaning with Feingold, on most if not all of the big votes.  I’ve heard of a few possible DLC-type votes on some business cases, but overall seem miles ahead of Clinton.  How the hell does Hillary justify the cluster bomb vote?!?  Jeezus, that’s enough right there to make up someone’s mind…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta do more study, but Obama has seemed to vote the right way, meaning with Feingold, on most if not all of the big votes.  I’ve heard of a few possible DLC-type votes on some business cases, but overall seem miles ahead of Clinton.  How the hell does Hillary justify the cluster bomb vote?!?  Jeezus, that’s enough right there to make up someone’s mind…</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/28/time-for-some-reality/#comment-530204</link>
		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;late night up.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>late night up.</p>
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		<title>By: pigboy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/28/time-for-some-reality/#comment-530200</link>
		<dc:creator>pigboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-530172&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Terry Olson @ 84 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-530114&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;pigboy @&lt;br /&gt;
                44              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree, but it seems Bush isn’t having too much fun with this anymore.  He looks and sounds like he’s lost his mind.  (Well that happened a long ol’ time ago, but it’s getting to him in physical ways these days).  He seems pissed off that it didn’t turn out like his mentors promised, and he just wants to go back to Texas.  Or Paraguay. He realizes nobody can save him, and the history books are written.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are correct. I don’t think shrub or his advisors are capable of putting people into their equations. Sociopath don’t see others that aren’t a part of their world and because of that they always underestimate the reactions to their actions. And you are correct that he is acting like a child about the whole thing as he continues to hurt everyone involved.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-530172"><em>Terry Olson @ 84 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-530114"><em>pigboy @<br />
                44              </em></a>
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<p>I agree, but it seems Bush isn’t having too much fun with this anymore.  He looks and sounds like he’s lost his mind.  (Well that happened a long ol’ time ago, but it’s getting to him in physical ways these days).  He seems pissed off that it didn’t turn out like his mentors promised, and he just wants to go back to Texas.  Or Paraguay. He realizes nobody can save him, and the history books are written.</p>
<p>You are correct. I don’t think shrub or his advisors are capable of putting people into their equations. Sociopath don’t see others that aren’t a part of their world and because of that they always underestimate the reactions to their actions. And you are correct that he is acting like a child about the whole thing as he continues to hurt everyone involved.</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/28/time-for-some-reality/#comment-530199</link>
		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-530197&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bonkers @ 99&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;angie:  Ugh.  Thanks for the clarification.  Gotta slow down a little and READ first.  Well, Obama at least was there!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;yep and he voted like a human.  Not one thug voted for it, but dear Mr. Jeffords did.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;session=2&amp;vote=00232#position&quot;&gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislat.....2#position&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>angie:  Ugh.  Thanks for the clarification.  Gotta slow down a little and READ first.  Well, Obama at least was there!</p>
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<p>yep and he voted like a human.  Not one thug voted for it, but dear Mr. Jeffords did.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;session=2&amp;vote=00232#position">http://www.senate.gov/legislat&#8230;..2#position</a></p>
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		<title>By: smapdi</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/28/time-for-some-reality/#comment-530198</link>
		<dc:creator>smapdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;R. James Nicholson secretary of the VA just stammered his way through an interview on the news hour. He keeps raising his right hand as if to testify to something. He just said there were only 300 some us amputees from iraq and and afghanistan. &lt;em&gt;time magazine &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1580531,00.html?cnn=yes&quot;&gt;http://www.time.com/time/natio.....ml?cnn=yes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/em&gt;says otherwise. All of his numbers were off. He says his own VA cant differentiate between traumatic brain injuries and dental cavities in patients. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Angry angry angry!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R. James Nicholson secretary of the VA just stammered his way through an interview on the news hour. He keeps raising his right hand as if to testify to something. He just said there were only 300 some us amputees from iraq and and afghanistan. <em>time magazine <a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1580531,00.html?cnn=yes">http://www.time.com/time/natio&#8230;..ml?cnn=yes</a><br />
</em>says otherwise. All of his numbers were off. He says his own VA cant differentiate between traumatic brain injuries and dental cavities in patients. </p>
<p>Angry angry angry!</p>
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