
So, we're still waiting on the jury, and the world keeps spinning on its axis . . .
For a nation founded in opposition to tyranny, we've got a funny way of acting. We started out by criticizing the practices of George the Third, and now George the Forty-Third seems to have adopted them as official policy.
He has affected to render the military independent of, and superior to, the civil power. . . .
He has [given] his assent to [the parliament's] acts of pretended legislation:
- For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us;
- For protecting them, by a mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states; . . .
- For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury;
- For transporting us beyond seas, to be tried for pretended offenses; . . .
George the Third did this by placing his generals superior to local colonial governing bodies and officials; for George the Forty-Third, this is done by making the official military of the DOD and the quasi-military of the CIA and other intelligence agencies "off limits" to the courts. Just this past week, the US Court of Appeals in DC upheld the Bush administration's odd claim that US and its military is not bound by the law of habeas corpus outside the US. From the LA Times:
In a 2-1 decision, the judges said the Constitution did not extend the right of habeas corpus to noncitizens held outside the sovereign territory of this country. "Cuba — not the United States — has sovereignty over Guantanamo Bay," Judge A. Raymond Randolph wrote.
Cuba is now responsible for Guantanamo Bay? So does that mean that the Gitmo detainees need to petition Castro for a hearing before a judge to contest their detention? Somehow, I don't think that's what George the Forty-Third or Judge Randolph had in mind.
But back to that other George:
He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation, and tyranny already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation. . . .
Here's where George the Forty-Third departs from George the Third. Instead of transporting the large armies of foreign mercenaries into Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan, George the Forty-Third sends the local prisoners to other nations "to complete the works of death, desolation, and tyranny" under the quaint heading "extraordinary rendition."
Human Rights Watch issued a report yesterday entitled "Ghost Prisoner," describing the enforced disappearance of Marwan Jabour by the CIA and others believed to have been taken into American custody. The Washington Post put the story of his two-year odyssey in CIA prisons on page A01, as well as George the Forty-Third's spokesperson's "nothing to see here . . . move along" boilerplate response. Senator Jay Rockefeller IV, chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, apparently disagrees with that assessment, as he is including this in his committee's oversight work.
When the State Department conducts its annual round up of human rights abuses, the "disappeared" is a part of the checklist. Historically, El Salvador has come in for particular scrutiny, but we have taken other nations to task repeatedly for "disappearing" their opponents. How tragic, then, that we are guilty of precisely the behavior we have condemned so often – and that we are continuing to practice.
The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights issued a press release on a treaty banning "disappearances" on February 6, 2007:
A new international treaty outlawing enforced disappearances and upholding the right of victims to know the truth about the circumstances and fate of those disappeared was officially opened for signature at a ceremony in Paris today.
"Far from being a tragic relic of past "dirty wars" this shameful practice still persists in all continents. This treaty closes a glaring gap in international human rights law by making explicit the prohibition on disappearances," said UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour.
"The task now is to ensure that the new Convention is promptly applied to meet the hopes and the demands for justice of the victims and their families and satisfy their "right to know".
The International Convention for the Protection of All Persons from Enforced Disappearance was adopted by the UN General Assembly on 20 December 2006.
Echoing the absolute prohibition on torture, the Convention states that, "No one shall be subjected to enforced disappearance" and highlights that no exceptional circumstances whatsoever may be invoked as a justification for such violation.
Three guesses as to whether we've signed on.
The US State Department's Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor describes our country's official stance on human rights as follows:
The protection of fundamental human rights was a foundation stone in the establishment of the United States over 200 years ago. Since then, a central goal of U.S. foreign policy has been the promotion of respect for human rights, as embodied in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The United States understands that the existence of human rights helps secure the peace, deter aggression, promote the rule of law, combat crime and corruption, strengthen democracies, and prevent humanitarian crises.
Because the promotion of human rights is an important national interest, the United States seeks to:
- Hold governments accountable to their obligations under universal human rights norms and international human rights instruments;
- Promote greater respect for human rights, including freedom from torture, freedom of expression, press freedom, women's rights, children's rights, and the protection of minorities;
- Promote the rule of law, seek accountability, and change cultures of impunity;
- Assist efforts to reform and strengthen the institutional capacity of the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights and the UN Commission on Human Rights; and
- Coordinate human rights activities with important allies, including the EU, and regional organizations.
Accountability . . . Respect . . . Rule of Law . . . Strengthen the UN . . . Coordinate with allies . . . Did this come from the Bush State Department, or did someone forget to update the website when they took office in 2001?
Someone might want to send this over to the White House, as they don't appear to have read it, from what Human Rights Watch has to say. And if Senator Rockefeller is looking for some models in his oversight of extraordinary renditions and secret prisons, he might check out the US Institute of Peace in DC. They maintain a library of reports and information on "Truth Commissions" in various nations that have worked (or are working) on coming to terms with their practices of "disappearances," including Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Ghana, Nepal, Peru, Sri Lanka, and Uraguay.
Ghost prisoners in CIA detention or rendered to other nations for "aggressive" interrogation are close cousins to the kinds of things that caused our own revolution. We didn't sink to the level of George the Third — we rose above it.
Why should George the Forty-Third be surprised that Americans would express outrage at this kind of official behavior? We know that as a nation, we are better than this, and have been so from the start.
It's time someone helped him remember.
Related posts:
- Vandeveld and Graham: A Tale of Two JAGs
- A Tale of Two Nominees: Why Civil Liberties “Extremists” are Disappointed in Obama
- UN Special Rapporteur: US Drone Strikes in Afghanistan “May Well Violate International Humanitarian Law”
- Ending Torture: Wrong Agency, Mr. President
- Let’s go to the tale-of-the-tape





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Fitz?
FITZ
IMPEACH!
Sweet, finally got a zed.
The new plan for Iraq: “Shaq and Awe“
does this mean it’s not today?
Thank you Peterr!
I tried to get on Gabbly from school – no go. I have 5 minutes before lunch – nothing yet?
we still have :30, right?
Shopgirlove at 1:31 pm
I’m not sure if this is accurate, but I think Shaq gave
Clusterf*ckBush a ball that didn’t bounce.He has affected to render the military independent of, and superior to, the civil power. . . .
He has [given] his assent to [the parliament’s] acts of pretended legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us;
For protecting them, by a mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states; . . .
For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury;
For transporting us beyond seas, to be tried for pretended offenses; . . .
Welcome to the West Bank, Peterr…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01502.html
urban pirate @ 6
No, today is still today. At least until tomorrow.
Peterr @ 13
nice
If Firedoglake were a 24-hour cable channel, we’d be the filler.
And yet, I keep coming back. For the filler.
John Casper @ 10
Please let this be true!
Jeebus that picture of Shaq and Shrub makes my skin crawl. I hate when W acts all cute girlie like that. Not that his manly man is any better.
sorry peterr, that was rude. I appreciate your post, but am getting antsy.
Thank you, Peterr, terrific post.
[taps foot]
Now that is an interesting image.
Lawyers for Gitmo detainees filing in Cuban courts on the basis of Judge A. Raymond Randolph’s U.S. District Court ruling !
urban pirate @ 18
You and everyone else. Including me.
If there are any Gitmo prisoner lawyers lurking, why not petition the Cuban courts for redress? very nice catch, peterr. not to mention a great analogy.
I am losing my mind. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE let it be today
New thread upstairs.
Reagan/Bush DOJ alumni call for a halt to Europe’s “runaway prosecutions” of our spies extraordinarily renditting:
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derfauster @ 20
Yeah, I like that one too. ;)
Judge Randolph’s logic means Cuba can demand the release of all prisoners at Guantanamo simply by ordering the US Military to do so since Cuba is SOVERIGN in the power over those prisoners.
Anyone tell Raul Castro yet?
CNN reports that a judge has just found Jose Padilla competent to stand trial.
This administration makes me physically ill!
They have NO SHAME! NO HUMANITY!
Check the link below and then get ready to write all your Congresscritters yet again.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/…..ect070227/
Excerpt:
“Soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center’s Medical Hold Unit say they have been told they will wake up at 6 a.m. every morning and have their rooms ready for inspection at 7 a.m., and that they must not speak to the media.”
In honor of the fast approaching Fitzmas, I say…
‘Ho…
‘Ho…
‘Ho…
Merry Fitzmas and Happy New Year!!
peterr!
Great post – thank you.
what manner of judge could find Jose Padilla competent to stand trial?
don’t answer that.
I’m not linking to save bandwidth, from the San Jose Mercury News:
“[…] Bush honored the Miami Heat championship basketball team today, joking with the team in his usual manner. But Shaquille O’Neal got the last laugh when Bush tried to bounce a basketball while standing next to the 7-foot-1 star.
It thudded flat on the stage. Bush looked startled as O’Neal and his teammates laughed.[…]”
I assume Olbermann and others will have more.
From the same article, Miami Heat coach Pat Riley: “Addressing reporters later, Riley denied that he had injected politics into the ceremony. “I’m pro-American, pro-democracy, I’m pro-government,” the coach said. “I follow my boss. He’s my boss.””
FWIW, Pat Riley played for Adolph “the baron” Rupp at the University of Kentucky. Rupp was famous for saying that only white players were smart enough to play for him.
Maybe this will make some of you breathe a little easier. I think Shuster’s done a pretty good job of keeping track of the trial. (of course nowhere near what the FDL team has done).
Peterr @ 28
shameful
wmc418 @ 27
Right, by this logic the activities of the US military in Cuba are more like a private lessee…and subject to all the laws of Cuba while they are operating there!
Somehow that’s not what I think that the US Military and George 43rd seem to think.
Cuba could impose all sorts of zoning requirements…noise ordinances, pollution controls, restrictions of flights or ship traffic into the area, density controls, gun ordinances, as well as clearly stating that individuals held within were protected by Cuban law and the Geneva Conventions as CUBA interpreted them.
Peterr, your posts usually come too late in the evening for me to be able to participate in them, but I just wanted to tell you how much I enjoy them.
I especially loved your “Ding! Ding!” post a couple of weeks ago and am sorry that I got to that party too late to be able to participate.
So may I do a belated “Ding!” to all of your wonderfully thoughtful posts, even if I’m usually reading (and enjoying) them long after you’ve moved on.
Which is the bigger decline?
1. From George Washington to George W. Bush
2. From Abraham Lincoln to George W. Bush
Hallo Pfifferling, du suesse Chanterelle! Remember that post last week about ZDF doc showing french special forces twice had visual proximity to Bin Laden and requested permission from US Command to kill or kapture? I found the video, it was indeed real. But no one here paid attention.
Folks, I think we’re commenting in the twilight zone here . . . the post has disappeared from the front page.
Well then, da di da dah, da di da dah, zwiiing! sterling serling, peterr.
Ha! The beauty of multiple windows.
Word from behind the curtain is that the thread will reappear in a couple of minutes. I suppose that will put it ahead of the “top ten things” thread on the front page, now that the jury has gone home.
Don’t know whether these comments will still be here when the thread comes back. Never been in a worm hole before . . .
btw, i’m using a Macbook Pro intel duo chip, Safari 2.something, from a ship anchored geosynchrous over Pettifours Courthaus. Everything works fine here.
Hi Crazy Horse. I was able to watch the video via your link. Thank you! It was really interesting and quite possibly true, but I wasn’t all that satisfied with their report. It left me with so many questions. Who were the journalists? How had the French contacted the Americans (after the first sighting, when they say they had no reply)? Etc. But I do wish it had gotten attention in the American media!
Dead thread huh?
NOT!
I have this urge to say something naughty. LOL!
Crazy Horse, I’ll check tomorrow to see if my comment was posted…. or lost in the twilight zone! G’nite!
Nope, we’re back again. Maybe my response @ 13 to urban pirate @ 6 was a bit too fast.
I think it’s still today.
hello fellow worms!
I want to share this diary on Obama with everyone here.
Pfifferling @ 45
Right you are, though so much of it struck this jaded observer as true. Still, being in German it wouldn’t have much effect here. Despite the entire day’s discussion of fees for finding bin Laden.
peterr, you still here? did you get it was a brilliant post?
Still here, and got it. Thanks.
“Cuba has sovereignty over Guantanamo Bay”? That statement could have some interesting repercussions on the diplomatic front. Maybe Cuba would want us to leave their territory?
And my party’s strategy and grand design is to “embarass” President Bush into capitulation.
John Casper @ 33
I wonder if George tried to rub Shaq’s head…
Deja Vu!
Ah yes.
Remember when America complained about other nations that “dissappeared” their enemies?
How 1776.
-GSD
Isn’t one of the 2 supporting this decision, Sentele I think, on the judge panel that “supervised” Ken Starr?
John Casper @ 10
That hardly seems fair after his administration has written so many checks that someday will.
BillE @ 58
Yes, you’re right. David Sentelle chaired the three judge panel that appointed and oversaw Starr.
Peterr @ 60
there was somebody overseeing Ken Starr?
From reading the jury note, it appears to me that the jury was confused if the charge was:
1. Whether Libby was lying to the FBI when he said he told Cooper that reporters were telling the administration that Mr. Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA but that Mr. Libby did not know of this was true (ie. there was no such conversation between Libby and Cooper);
or
2. Whether Libby was lying to Cooper about the content of what Libby told Cooper.
I believe the answer is no. 1 Any thoughts?
There may be a difference in the closeness of most of you living within the dark hole of amurka to the overwhelming black propaganda in the US, while i’m participating from the seemingly more reality-based Europe. i’m certain you all have contemplated what you’re participating in, and many have posted about it’s media effect, but it “bears” repeating.
No matter what the verdict will be. No matter how the MSM spins this. No matter how the dark hole of other events may preclude proper analysis of these past five weeks.
What’s happened here at the Lake will be perceived by history as a watershed event in the evaluation of whether amurka was reborn through new media. Coverage here, balancing snark and humor with detailed analysis of complicated evidence and gut-feeling hearsay, has given people a chance to express the entire spectrum of hopes and desires to ending the madness.
i am so thankful that so many expert thoughts and efforts reside here, and that i was allowed by circumstance and DSL to participate.
I care about the Libby outcome. But does Mr. and Ms. Voter?
Peterr @ 28
Has it been ruled that the judge in question is competent to stand up?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 64
They would, if it were on the news.
What a long strange trip its been from King George III through George the founder, george the father to george the
turdturd (still fits – sorry) – from madness to insanity in just over two centuries. The cancer of the body politic is widespread, deeply rooted, and probably inoperable. The exquisite balance of wisdom needed to create the Constitution is long past, the exquisite balance of experience that was needed to formulate the New Deal, those embers are now ashes, forgotten, disregarded, distroyed. Maybe there is a way back from this precipice of disgrace, Maybe there will be one public official who will discover in themselves the where-with-all to carpe diem, and assure their Profile of Courage, but more likely only the demagogue will stir, the ripe pickings for another Elmer Gantry, covering themselves in flags and self-praise, making the national emblems meer decoration, national myths drownding out both reason and opposition. The Roman Republic ended also in like manner, Deceived and Defrauded out of their age-old traditions.Arnie @ 67
The Madness of King George.
I have become angry with the Democratic majority in the House for their roll-over on the ‘embarrasment’ (funding cut for Iraq) issue.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 69
me too
Elliott @ 61
I thought that was Satan’s job. Or was that the other way around?
newsflash: barack obama is “more black” than hillary clinton.
kate o’bierne has thus decreed.
hardball, 2:35PM PST
rosalind @ 72
Thank God we have Kate to tell us these things.
EvilDrPuma @ 71
it’s hard for me to tell the difference.
After the last ten years, the US roster of judges, especially in appeals, resembles more and appallingly ever more those dark character judges splattered across the pages of Dickens’ novels, with none of the humor.
Crazy Horse, glad you’re talking about that German report again….I looked and looked online for days to see if it was picked up. No sighting….can you “spotlight” in some way to the German media to get that stuff over here asap? Always enjoy your comments.
kirk murphy @ 35
If I recall, this is actually a good thing. The government was claiming that Padilla was not competent to stand trial as a means of preventing any trial from taking place. They wanted to hold him in confinement, and since they don’t have much of a legal case against him, they figured they could hold him on mental/medical grounds instead.
Keep in mind that they don’t even want him in the courts anyway, but they lost that fight.
And, of course, the elephant in the room: the reason the government claims Padilla is not competent to stand trial? Because they’ve tortured him so silly he can’t tell up from down. He was pretty sane up until his capture and mistreatment. Maybe not someone you’d want to take home to mom and dad, but not a psychiatric case study.
Now that Padilla is cleared to stand for trial, the government will have to provide evidence that he’s actually committed some kind of crime. I’m not sure they actually have any evidence to provide at this point. If they had a case, they wouldn’t be trying to keep him out of court.
abeincicero @ 63
There’s a third possibility. Libby also asserted to the FBI that not only did he say the above to Cooper [Statemade made], but that this conversation supported his position that AT THE TIME he did not “recall” that Wilson’s wife was a CIA employee [content of statement itself].
So he was not only lying about what he [said] to Cooper…he was also lying to the FBI about his knowledge at the time [content].
Thus the juries question
Page 74 of the jury instructions, “Count three of the indictment alleges that Mr. Libby falsely told the FBI on October 14 or November 26, 2003, that during a conversation with M. Cooper of Time Magazine on July 12, 2003, Mr. Libby told Mr. Cooper that reporters were telling the administration that Mr. Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA but that Mr. Libby did not know of this was true. (i.e., is the charge that the statement was made or about theh content of the statement itself)
The charge could be read several ways.
I think Libby is screwed any way one parses this, except one, which holds out some hope.
Option 1- If Libby MADE the statement to the FBI then he is lying to THE FBI about his belief at the TIME he spoke to Cooper that he did not recall Cheney telling him about Valerie Wilson working at the FBI.
This is the conclusion that must be drawn whether or not he made the statement to Cooper. He was, in this parsing, only using the conversation with Cooper to support his assertion about “forgetting”. If he didn’t forget…then he lied to the FBI by not saying that he lied to Cooper. Libby was using the Cooper conversation as factual support to his assertion that he “forgot”. This doesn’t require believing Cooper at all.
Option 2) tHE CONVERSATION OCCURRED, BUT Libby fabricated the details of the conversation with Cooper out of thin air. Again, this would support the assertion that he “forgot”. But if the jurors believe Cooper, then Libby lied to the FBI about the content of the conversation.
Either way, Libby seems to be screwed IF the jurors have already resolved that Libby didn’t “forget” the Cheney conversation.
The only possibility that would offer some hope for Libby is if they believe that Cooper is mistaken (i.e. Libby stated the things he did) and that Libby also forgot that he had spoken to Cheney. Only in this way would the false statement to the FBI that he had forgotten, and offering up the Cooper conversation as “evidence” of that loss of memory subvert the providing of False Information to the FBI.
“If Libby had said, “I told Cooper a lie when I told him that I didn’t know about Val Wilson working at the FBI” then he would not have been giving false evidence.
For the Jury to accept Libby’s assertion to the FBI on this count they would have to find him innocent on all the others, IMO. The would have to accept that he “forgot”.
Thus the jurors wanted to know whether the charge was lying to Cooper (irrelevant) or lying to the FBI (relevant). They also seemed to be interested in whether it was the content or statement that was involved. But once the issue of whether or not he lied on any of theother counts is resolved that simply doesn’t matter for this count. Either path of interpretation leads to the same outcome.
Good info on the Firing of Lawyers.
Thanks for this post, Peterr. Very well done!
For the WTC7 conspiracy theorists, two URLs:
http://www.popularmechanics.co…..tml?page=5
http://cr4.globalspec.com/thre…..ade-Center
CR4 is engineering talk. I won’t guarantee these pages are still up; they’re from back a while.
Elliott @
68
When the movie of that title came out it was noted that properly it should hve been ….George III, to which one wag replied that American audiences would want to have seen Madness….George I and Madness of George II before they would see this.
Hey fyi on Link television
(this is on now central time)
Democracy Now is about to have an interview Sy Hersh
later this eveing
The film 9-11 Press For Truth
Truth Lies and the Press including
Bill Moyers 2007 speech in Memphis
These days they’re called “security contractors.”
From George III to George the turd…priceless.
On Cuba’s authority over Guantanamo…don’t the Bushies have even the slightest sense of irony or farce.
Of course, now it means Cuba (land of brown-skinned people who give Republicans the creeps) has the right to hold every single American soldier on Guantanamo liable for Geneva Convention violations and for International Law and Treaty violations which Cuba is a party to, even if the good ol’ USA isn’t. Hilarious.
Shaq actually gave Dumbya a flat ball? Amazing. And, they all laughed at Dubya? Incredibly hilarous. Now *that* should’ve been on t.v. I’m so glad I bought some Shaq tennis shoes. They fit great and were only $25. Shaq for preznit!
I’m soooo looking forward to the day when we can seen every one of those Bushite jokers locked up.
There oughta be a list (roll) of every Republican Bush supporter/operative in recent years who’s been convicted & sent to jail and that list should be shown on t.v. and explained to the public.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t GeorgeIII’s Privy Counselors use his mental condition to overshadow his decision making?
Those of you who can or do listen to air america – Jane is on in just a couple of minutes: 6:30.
Peterr – thanks for this terrific post. I don’t know what there is to say about this topic other than “WTF happened to everything we were taught was good about America? We’re supposed to be the good guys – not the people who do horrible, immoral, inhumane actions like these.”
I was always raised to believe that America’s devotion to justice was what made us one of the greatest nations on this earth. As a kid, I was taught that we were a beacon of hope for the world. In school, we learned how tolerance for others with different religions and cultural beliefs were to be respected. These were the things that made America great – that justice always prevails, and our country will never do anything wrong like start a war unprovoked or treat people outside the rules of international law.
Seeing what has unfolded over the past five years, I can’t help but wonder what lessons kids are learning today about America. We aren’t righteous, we try to ignore and bend the laws (or outright break them and deceive), we do whatever we want in order to gain power. We use and abuse. We deny horrible actions, even after plenty of evidence of wrongdoing has been shown. America planned a pre-emptive war based on completely false pretenses, we kidnap people all over the world and send them into the torture rooms once run by people like Saddam Hussein. Our government made people “disappear” simply because they were expendable.
In my opinion, the United States now looks like the type of government that I was taught was evil. Fortunately, I think we can turn it around as quickly as we’ve slipped into this horrible situation – we can start by forcing accountability and transparency in our government. We can urge our members of Congress to stop funding this nightmare. We have to demand answers and demand better of our government, because we do still have the power.
But the current president of the US is George the Third: Washington was the first George, his dad was the second. Like the original George III, Dubya got the nomination based on who his father was, not on his own merit.
http://www.airamerica.com/listen/
shit, air america is down on iTunes. everything else works, alas.
Peterr, I went to your link to the Declaration of Independece… kinda choked me up.
I took my name because I finally got excited – instead of resigned to insanity. FDL has all the jazz of Boston Harbor, one of my favorite places to sail a good old boat.
I am in touch with the North End of Boston daily. Let me know when the lanterns need to be lit.
use http://www.airamerica.com/listen/ instead, crazyhorse, and choose windows media player or real.
working for me!
Maddow: the coverage from FDL has been groundbreaking.
P J Evans- The main guy behind the Popular Mechanics angle is Michael Chertoff’s brother.
Yay Jane…great stuff on Air America!
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ic-button/
and thank you JoyB, iTunes AA was down but the site worked. Though i seem to think Chainey’s quote (grrrrr, he said) was canned.
Jane rocked. Mr und Mrs Air America, did you hear?
NEW THREAD
Jane did great on AAR!
I am severely EPU’d here but want to post this for the record.
When we were in Moskva we saw the building where people went to inquire about their missing relatives. My colleague said no one ever got an answer. All missing people died.
To be near this building made me physically sick.
Will we have such a building in the future?
George XLIII has a nasty ring. Our Boy King is XL times as bad as his predecessor George III.
Bad arithmetic, good metaphor.
Great post. The similarities are striking between Mad King George the Third and Mad King George the Farty-Turd…er, the Forty-Third.
Is this to be the fate of our democracy? With Mad King George the Third and Mad King George the Forty-Third being the bookends in our grand experiment in self-government, of the people, by the people and for the people? Have the Tory thugs finally won? Have one-third of our fellow citizens gone completely bonkers, preferring that their children be raised under tyranny instead of in the sweet-scented fields of our freedom-loving democracy? Would this “one-third” have sided with Mad King George the Third during the American Revolution, and his claim of the “divine right of kings”, since they seem so entranced with the current Mad King George, the Farty-Turd, with his similar “divine right of kings” mentality?
Incredible. The Second American Revolution is upon us, and we’re having to deal with Tory traitors again.
Amazona @ 2:47, I don’t know if you’ll see this, but if you’re interested in pursuing the story with the american media, I did find mention of it on the website for, of all places!, Fox News.
I don’t want to link to them, but it’s in the “World” section of the website and dated
Dec. 21, 2006 from the Assoc. Press. (So perhaps it was reported a bit in the american media?)
But if you want to research the original reporting of the story, you’ll get a lot of hits if you put in the following search terms in google: razavi lavarene ben laden (razavi and lavarene were the journalists reporting on the story) or change “ben” to “bin” and you’ll get stories in German and in English.
BUT I don’t know anything about the validity of the story. I’ve only seen that German TV report, which was just a recounting of the original French story, so take it all with a grain of salt!