
Sy Hersh just published this article in The New Yorker about a strategic shift in US policy in the Middle East toward more covert operations. The operations are designed, among other things, to undermine Iranian/Shia influence in the region. It is hard to read the article without concluding that the Bush/Cheney Administration is about to blunder into a war with Iran, notwithstanding all its denials. And the strategy is likely to increase the chances for sectarian war throughout the Middle East. Please read the full article.
Hersh also reports that the Bush Administration is secretly diverting funds Congress authorized for Iraq to Lebanon, where it is being funneled indirectly to fund and arm radical Sunni jihadist groups in Lebanon, so that they can oppose the Shiite Hezbolla in the event of a full scale Sunni versus Shia civil war in Lebanon.
Yesterday, Hersh was interviewed by CNN's Wolf Blitzer and you can watch the interview at C&L. Here's part of the transcript:
HERSH: My government, which arrests al Qaeda every place it can find them and send — some of them are n Guantanamo and other places, is sitting back while the Lebanese government we support, the government of Prime Minister Siniora, is providing arms and sustenance to three jihadist groups whose sole function, seems to me and to the people that talk to me in our government, to be there in case there is a real shoot-'em-up with Hezbollah and we really get into some sort of serious major conflict between the Sunni government and Hezbollah, which is largely Shia, who are basically — or as you know, there is a coalition headed by Hezbollah that is challenging the government right now, demonstrations, sit-ins.
There has been some violence. So America, my country, without telling Congress, using funds not appropriated, I don't know where, by my sources believe much of the money obviously came from Iraq where there is all kinds of piles of loose money, pools of cash that could be used for covert operations.
All of this should be investigated by Congress, by the way, and I trust it will be. . . .
We are simply in a situation where this president is really taking his notion of executive privilege to the absolute limit here, running covert operations, using money that was not authorized by Congress, supporting groups indirectly that are involved with the same people that did 9/11, and we should be arresting these people rather than looking the other way…
[snip]
BLITZER: Your bottom line is that Negroponte was aware of this, obviously, and he wanted to distance himself from it? That is why he decided to give up that position and take the number two job at the State Department?
HERSH: He — that is one of the reasons, I was told. Negroponte also was not in tune with Cheney. There was a lot of complaints about him because he was seen as much of a stickler, too ethical for some of the operations the Pentagon wants to run.
As you know, this Pentagon has been running covert operations. I think Mr. Gates' job and one of the things he wants to do is get some control over it. But under Rumsfeld we were running operations all over the world with who knows what money and who knows what authority, because most of those operations were not briefed to the intelligence committees.
[UPDATE: The General has a perfect illustration of what Hersh is saying. (h/t Lou Costello)]
Spooky stuff, with echos of the Iran-Contra scandal, and that was just Sunday's big story. All week there were stories that suggested the world is becoming more and more dangerous, and US policy is either the cause, making it worse, or ineffective in dealing with it. A partial list:
First, despite repeated denials by some members of the Administration, we continued to see reports, applauded by the necons, that the US was either preparing to attack Iran or considering Israeli requests to let them do it (all denied by the Israelis), despite an LA Times report that the US has been relying on faulty intelligence of Iran's nuclear program.
Yesterday the TimesOnLine reported that senior generals in the Pentagon were threatening to resign if the Administration actually gave the orders to attack Iran.
Then to reassure everyone, Dick Cheney flew to Japan and Australia to say that all options for dealing with Iran were on the table, that stories of him losing influence were exaggerated, and that there had been remarkable achievements in Iraq.
We had Jordan's King Abdulla warning the Israelis that they were facing the last chance for peace, just days after Secretary Rice was apparently undermined by the White House in her efforts to get peace talks started between Israelis and Palestinians.
Earlier in the week, we saw a front page NYT article disclosing that Al Qaeda was making a comeback in the mountains along the Pakistan and Afghanistan border, creating a capability to undermine both regimes.
The journal Foreign Policy published essays from several foreign policy experts asked to name the 10 biggest winners from the US invasion and occupation of Iraq. Among the top ten winners: Iran, Muktada al-Sadr, Al-Qaeda, the price of oil, and Arab dictators. Neither the US nor Iraq made the list of winners.
Back at home, we were told that the President's escalation plan will require more frequent rotation of the National Guard into the ME war zones, and that the rules for their deployment were making state governors very unhappy.
Early in the week, Tony Blair proved that he had more sense than George Bush, announcing that the UK would immediately begin drawing down British troops in Southern Iraq. Dick Cheney reassured us this was a sign of success.
You already knew about the decision upholding the Military Commissions Act and all the crimes sanctioned by the Act. But in the same week, another competent US Attorney — the eighth so far — was forced to resign under pressure from Attorney General Gonzales. It's like watching the movie Z unfold in your own country: Ignore the Constitution, sanction lawlessness, cover it up, shield the perpetrators and those responsible for ordering the crimes, fire the prosecutors.
That was a pretty awful week, even by Bush standards. The problems are so numerous and difficult that they may appear beyond resolution, but I am certain of one thing. There is a common cause and a common first step for dealing with them. We are not going to resolve any of these issues as long as the Bush/Cheney Administration remains in power. That regime is too dishonest for us to trust their statements; too reckless for us to believe they will make wise choices; too radical to obey the law; and too incompetent for us to rely on their assessments, planning or implementation of any strategy, even if it were the correct one. The greatest problem we face is not on the list of last week's horrors. The problem is the radical regime of George Bush and Dick Cheney and the extremist zealots that advise them.
In the Wizard of Oz, our heroes panicked for the wrong reasons: there was no real danger from lions, tigers and bears. But the friends were in real danger just as we are today. The danger was from an evil regime. Though a humbug, the Wizard knew that it was impossible to confront the risks to his community and meaningless to grant his petitioners' requests unless the evil power of the Wicked Witch was defeated.
I am not advocating throwing buckets of water on anyone, either metaphorically or otherwise, and this site wisely does not tolerate that, so we don't even go there. But it's time to let this regime know that all constutitional options are on the table. The media and Congress need to shine a lot more light, a lot faster, under all those rocks, and let the American people know the danger we're in. And I don't know how one escapes the conclusion that the country's number one priority should be to remove the current Administration from power, and failing that, to do everything we lawfully can to limit their ability to do even more harm than they have already done. If the Congress and media are not focused on this central issue, why aren't they? What else is more important?
Related posts:





Spotlight








Support this site!
Subscribe to the newsletter
Advertise on Firedoglake
Send
us your tips
Make us your homepage
About Firedoglake
Advanced search

Oh my!
A drive-by zed! Now to read . . .
Good morning, Scarecrow!
Yo all! Does it look like the Prettyman will be occupied and the jury deliberating today? There was some snow in DC last nite, no? Go Jury, Go!!
Fitz! FDL! (((Jane!)))
and who is that handsome guy on the left?
Our very own?
Good morning scarecrow et al.
Snowing pretty snow on the Cape this morning. Now to go out and shovel some of it . . . .
Oh by the way, ANOTHER great post!
Good morning everyone. Raining here in Boston; we could use a shower.
Gnome de Plume @
1
I hope I didn’t send you into hyperspace. I accidentially posted this last night and then quickly pulled it, but you had already gotten the zed! Come back!
LOL, Rev! Hello, All! Off to work in the snow. (At least, its rather light.)
Good morning. Yesterday was a steady rain, but I just had the field aerated and fertilized, so it was right on time. Crocus, daffodil and narcissus are up, and my camellia might actually bloom this year!
“and who is that handsome guy on the left?”
Well, you know it isn’t me. I think in this production, Scarecrow is played by a woman. Christy found the pic and still thinks I’m you or Kathryn in all those Ned pictures!
Then to reassure everyone, Dick Cheney flew to Japan and Australia to say that all options for dealing with Iran were on the table, that stories of him losing influence were exaggerated, and that there had been remarkable achievements in Iraq.
Note to Australians and Japan. Carl Levin on yesterday MtP said: “Dick Cheney has zero credibility.”
Hopefully today, Darth’s credibility will be in the minus digits.
Scarecrow,
Thanks for highlighting Sy Hersh’s Work. We do have to do eveything constitutionally possible to stop this impending train wreck. Its like the worst of Watergate and Contra while most Americans remain distracted.
mui @ 10
Cheney is also making surprise visits to Pakistan and Afghanistan.
mui @ 10
Nice quote; have you seen that in a link anywhere?
tommy yum @ 8
Oh wow you are lucky. The only spring I get comes from looking at gardening catalogs.
Great post once again, Scarecrow.
We had a roadmap last January. Some Dem leadership should have implemented it immediately:
Excerpt, Al Gore’s speech at Constitution Hall, 16-JAN-2006, sponsored by the bi-partisan American Constitution Society. [bold mine]
twolf1 @ 12
scares me
Scarecrow @ 13
Nah. I actually bit the bullet and watched MtP yesterday (What I do for FDL). Carl Levin said that, I think, a couple of times, with enough emphasis to have it stand out in my mind at least.
Save America, save the Middle East, save humanity, save the World!! IMPEACH Bush and Cheney!! Please write your representatives (state and federal) and ask that impeachment proceedings be started. The votes might not look like they are there today, but perhaps the truth will get out before more damage is done. Who knows how many votes will be there after the truth gets out.
typo @ the movIe Z.
Since FDL is getting quoted lately!
Thanks Rayne — I can use that link. Did the Mich. Dem convention get any media coverage?
Elliott @ 16
If (or when) Scooter is found guilty, maybe Darth will decide to stay in those countries.
TJ @ 19
Thanks. It’s fixed.
Rayne @ 5:29 am –
I left you a message at or near the end of the previous thread.
SEN. LEVIN:
Levin made a really good funny, btw, at the Convention. He came up and said,
mui @ 21
anywhere but here, although Alcatraz works for me
twolf1 @ 24
Thanks twolf1. Close to zero? Reminds me of Billy Crystal: “Mostly dead is not completely dead.”
EPU’ed from prev thread:
—————————————
Neil @ 23
OK Neil, I tried. I managed to get a few posts in over the wkend, but this latest:
… is still loading. I don’ theenk they like me anymore… /CROC-TEARS :)
Not sure about when court starts today. Federal Government is open on schedule today.
emptywheel — are you scheduled to fly out to DC today? Weather?
twolf1 @ 24
Crazy. Have mine ears failed me? and memory too? I really thought Levin said “Cheney has zero credibility” a few times. Ech!
Are you driving in, Pat?
FYI everyone — jury deliberations will begin on time this morning in the Libby case. Just heard from a source in the courthouse.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 33
Safe journey, Marcy. VERY safe pls! :)
E.J. Dionne provides the antidote to Victoria T.:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01256.html
scarecrow – thank you for coming out so strongly in favor of stopping this train wreck of an administration. that has got to be our priority…. too much is at risk.
Rayne @ 15 – in celebration of “inconvenient truth” winning two oscars last night…. here is a link fest of al gore speeches (and some interviews) since 2002 (please let me know if i’m missing any good ones).
Scarecrow @ 30
I’ll go on the last flight tonight if we dont’ get a verdict today, I think.
Unfortunately, I can’t make it in today. If verdict comes in, I’d really like to see PFJ’s news conference…
Glad you didn’t drive EW. Lot’s of wrecks in my parts yesturday.
S.O.S. in MA @ 4
There was some snow, followed by a lot of rain (and not the ice they were predicting.) It was pretty much cleared by yesterday evening. Like Pat said, they’ll be open for business.
emptywheel @ 25
I’ll help the Senator out, and this will be my first and only Britney comment: Britney saw Taxi Driver, or maybe “V”.
Emptywheel, or anyone.
if Libby is found guilty, and if Fitz is going after Cheney, about how long would it take until he indicts Cheney?
Have a safe trip EW. ANd as much as I wish for a quick guilty verdict (and for Christy’s 3 1/2 day prediction to come true) I hope you get there in time for the verdict.
Fate/Karma owes you that
selise @ 36
What a great link, Selise. Goes right to bookmark. You’re a treasure.
Good Morning Scarecrow and Firedogs,
goodness Scarecrow – I’m with Rayne, this post serves as a workable brief for 4 – 5 Articles of Impeachment for this week alone – time to get on the google and find the current House General Counsel
Elliott @ 42
It would depend on what he would be indicting Cheney for and whether or not he needs anything else for the charges under consideration.
I am working on a post with some tin foil hat theories for after the verdict
Fantastic post! Thanks Scarecrow.
We are in danger and we have killed too many people on this earth during their reign.
Cindy Sheehan wrote a very good piece published yesterday:
http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0225-26.htm
Redshift @ 40
Tnx Redshift, Pat… :)
Elliott at 42 — You know, no one could possibly know the answer to that, because Fitzgerald does not indict, the grand jury makes that decision. He can propose additional indictments in this, but there is no way to predict whether he will — or even when that would or would not be done, given the backed up trial schedule he and all of the other memebrs of the government team will be dealing with after the verdict here. (As an example, I think Fitz has a Conrad Black trial to deal with in Chicago soon.)
The best thing to do with any criminal proceeding is to sit back and see where things go. I learned a long time ago that patience is your best ally when you are prosecuting — and thatgoes for watching a prosecutor as well.
Christy
Are you heading into DC as well?
What is the courthouse lineup for this week? Is Jane still there?
angie @ 47
Angie!!! :-))
In further support of Christy’s #49. PAtFitz is known for being very thorough, but not known for being very fast.
Patience IS your friend here
looseheadprop @ 50
Jane is there.
hi mui!
Scarecrow — convention got a passing nod or two, one example here: Michigan Technology News: Democrats back Granholm’s Net Neutrality Legislation
Think the Farrakhan speech and Nation of Islam convention held at the same time at the same site may have gotten more coverage. Emptywheel’s right, Levin did have a cute little funny, received well by the crowd.
SPCPA (23) — thanks, got it. Figured with tax season and verdict hanging in the air, you weren’t sleeping much. ;-)
My fav from the Sy Hersh article:
Iran-Contra was the subject of an informal “lessons learned” discussion two years ago among veterans of the scandal. Abrams led the discussion. One conclusion was that even though the program was eventually exposed, it had been possible to execute it without telling Congress. As to what the experience taught them, in terms of future covert operations, the participants found: “One, you can’t trust our friends. Two, the C.I.A. has got to be totally out of it. Three, you can’t trust the uniformed military, and four, it’s got to be run out of the Vice-President’s office”—a reference to Cheney’s role, the former senior intelligence official said. [end quote]
egr bold.
egregious @ 56
As with the Joe Wilson Op Ed. I don’t think this is the last time we will all discuss this article.
I think there may be a new can of worms opening up.
looseheadprop @ 46
that’s great! I’m looking forward to that
and of course, that would mean Scoots is found guilty, and I’m certainly looking forward to that!
Wonder if anyone will field an update to this after the verdict..
http://www.pollingreport.com/whprobe.htm
…and another excellent post scarecrow. This whole ball of wax reminds me of the Id monster from ‘Forbidden Planet’. FWIW.
CNN reports that Cheney’s visit to Pakistan is to warn them that the newly elected democratic congress may cut off aid to Pakistan if they don’t get busy looking for OBL.
Here’s an emergency constitutional question for some genius out there:
What language does Congress need to enact (immediately) that would give every member of the U.S. military, from the reluctant generals on down, an unambiguous reason to answer “No” if ordered to attack Iran?
“The media and Congress need to shine a lot more light, a lot faster, under all those rocks,”
My bold…
The General…as usual:
http://patriotboy.blogspot.com…..5099845356
Angie! Great to see you.
Anybody heard from Immanentize? I miss him.
lina @ 35
That’s a pretty good column by EJ. Thanks, lina.
“What language does Congress need to enact (immediately) that would give every member of the U.S. military, from the reluctant generals on down, an unambiguous reason to answer “No” if ordered to attack Iran?”
Isn’t that already written into the military code?
twolf1 @ 60
If it weren’t so heartbreakingly sad, if there hadn’t been so much loss of life, if we hadn’t seen to total sqandering of our national prestige,
this level of hypocrisy would be belly laugh funny.
scarecrow, thanks for an important take on Hersh’s new revelations. Since reading the article yesterday i haven’t been able to shake it’s scariness. Negroponte as too ethical for cheney? Congress continuing to sleepwalk while the tax dollars pour into black ops? We’re in really deep shit.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 49
oh man, Christy, we don’t have time to wait! We’ve got to Cheney, into a lock box now.
JEP @ 66
Seriously, doesn’t every military officer have the duty to refuse an unreasonable order?
Can the commander in chief order a soldier to commit suicide? To jump off a cliff? To murder an innocent civilian?
Aren’t they supposed to “just say no” to unreasonable orders?
Why is it so difficult for many to understand this not at all difficult concept? ‘While not a sufficient condition for peace in the Middle East, a fair and just remedy for the Palestinian-Israeli problem IS a necessary condition for peace.’ Gaza is not much more than a concentration camp. A ‘gulag’ if you will.
Slowpoke @ 61
They don’t have to/can’t enact. We have a cicilian contolled military here. As long as the order is “lawful” (that is a complicated term) they must obey.
However, all military personnel have an obligation NOT to obey an “unlawful” order.
So, to the extent your question presupposes that such an order is “unlawful” the statutes are already on the books.
The thing Congress has to do is forbid Shrub from invading. Hust as they forbid Reagan from aiding the Contras.
Slowpoke @ 61
Geneva Conventions. Illegal to attack a country unless it poses an imminent threat.
[Look! I spelled imminent right. Even after talking about Imm. :) ]
Blank Kludge @
59
Where’s Robbie the Robot when we need him!
http://www.latimes.com/news/na…..ome-nation
twolf1 @ 60
Good luck to him (/snark). I am sure Darth is just grandstanding and probably aware of the tenuous balance of power between Musharraf and the leaders of that borderland, and so on.
looseheadprop @ 67
hmmm…it got a bile-laden ‘HA!HA!HA!’ ironic snort here.
egregious @ 64
Yes where *is* immanentize?
Negroponte = too ethical
WHOOOOSH KABOOOOOOM!
Imposion of brain.
Was that litigatormom? Who created that?
On the topic of this Scarecrow’s post, Justin Raimondo of Anti-war.com has an amazingly informative article up this morning:
Raimondo
Gore for eight.
Lou Costello @
63
Wow. Priceless. That’s going right in as an UPDATE. Thanks.
Blank Kludge @ 77
Allow me to come up with a new slogan. Democrats fight the War on Terror. Republikans fight the War on Terra.
egregious answers my plea for legislation with this: “Geneva Conventions. Illegal to attack a country unless it poses an imminent threat.” Absolutely correct, but insufficient the last time the subject came up (Iraq).
What else you got? Please.
Cheney’s visit to “urge finding OBL” is just cover for the story that we are playing “footsy” with Al-Queda. No one buys his lies and BS anymore anyway.
mui @ 78
Maybe we can send Robby the Robot out to find him.
Nora says:
Seven years ago, when Hillary Clinton first ran for Senate from New York, she said something that summed up everything, I’m afraid. “Here’s what I’ve learned,” she said. “I can’t make a mistake.”
Nora Ephron does the job.
Slowpoke — there is nothing in the current Authorization to Use Military Force (AUMF) that specifically authorizes an attack on Iran. However, if CheneyCo. could find a way to construct what looks like a terrorist threat by Iran against U.S. interests, CheneyCo. might be able to coerce DoD to take action. Believe there are already a number of credible folks pointing to the potential for black ops, like Zbigniew Brezinski in testimony in front of Congress over a week ago. Sy Hersh’s article yesterday indicating misuse of funds a la Iran-Contra style to fund Sunnis against Hezbollah is extremely disconcerting since the same funds could easily be used to generate a black op using characters that look suspect to DoD.
We need to modify the AUMF immediately to pointedly eliminate Iran as a target, by specifying that any action against Iran must be authorized by a separate AUMF; we must also remove the “War on Terror” clause from the AUMF and put it in a separate AUMF, treating it more like police actions as necessary against non-state actors. It is a major problem that the current AUMF conflates state actors and non-state actors in the same document, as if they should receive the same kind of handling; it simply does not work and it sets us up for further manipulation by neo-cons.
JEP @ 70
Can the commander in chief order a soldier to commit suicide? To jump off a cliff? To murder an innocent civilian?
Aren’t they supposed to “just say no” to unreasonable orders?
I believe the answer to this, by the Geneva or Nuremberg Conventions (IAobviouslyNAL), is YES. However the result would prolly be like the “Saturday Night Massacre,” with jail or worse for those disobeying orders. I.e., if some military personnel were to disobey orders, they would be (somehow) removed from the chain of command until someone willing to carry out the (presumed illegal) orders could be found, and then we’d be back in the soup. Nope, imho the hardest thing to do, but the most effective, would be to impeach the ass offen anyone stupid enough to ISSUE those orders.
looseheadprop @
72
Now you’re talking! If Congress were simply to repeal the enabling act that got us into Iraq, how long would it take before it would have the force of law?
Slowpoke @ 84
I think egregious’ point, which I agree with, is that everything a conscientious officer needs is already law. And now we have five years of history to show that those who gave the Iraq orders lied and have no credibility and do not follow the law.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice finds Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama appealing and says it won’t be much longer before race isn’t a barrier to becoming president.
“appealing”. See if I get this? Obama is very anti-Iraq war. The Iraq war is Condi’s signature issue. But the the Sec. of State finds this man “appealing”. Okaaaay.
OH yeah, I found it, and it is litigatormom, Feb 20 at 1:01pm on Wells3:
[begin quote]
WHOOOOSH….KABOOOOOOM
The sound you hear is the sound of litigatormom’s head imploding. Head implosion is so much easier to clean-up than head explosion, she highly recommends it.
[end quote]
Rayne @ 88
Are these the changes that are currently under consideration in Congress?
Actually I hate the phrase “War on Terror.” Anything coined by ChimpCo has to go.
from war and piece:
The graphic at the General is priceless. Except that there is a cost.
Let me see if my poor imploded brain can handle this one:
We’re funding both sides in a civil war.
Am I missing anything?
call to courthouse at 9:45
Scarecrow @
65
Notice how Dionne is able to succinctly make his point. Vickie the Toe needed what, six pages?
I mean, did anyone read that whole thing?
Yech.
either a question or the verdict
Scarecrow @ 91
It is not the job of the military to nit-pick their orders or question the chain of command. They have the right to presume that they are being led lawfully. The job of overseeing the commander-in-chief rests with Congress. It is infuriating that we have to expect soldiers to disobey orders — which is a huge gamble for them, insubordination can carry a death penalty, you know, and the military justice system is much more harsh than the civil justice system — because we don’t seem to be able to get our representatives to do their freaking job.
Wo.
Five verdicts, five minutes from now?
A girl can dream.
All these big U.S. Navy boats recently dispatched to the Middle East and administration transparent rhetoric and propanganda aimed at Iran, says something to me.
If it was a verdict, wouldn’t they just say the jury has reached a vedict?
egregious @ 102
I kind of doubt they’d have gone home on Friday if they were this close to a verdict now.
But you never know.
I just want a verdict. Today would be nice. Guilty of course.
lhp (72) — but all the cast and characters were different during Iran-Contra; if Congress gave an order to stop funding, the White House might have actually paid attention. With this administration repeatedly saying it reserves authority to itself to act under the theory of the unitary executive, I don’t believe that merely telling the Executive Office to stop will be enough. I think that an AUMF modified to exclude action against Iran without explicit Congressional authorization is only way we can get the generals’ backs.
I’d like to know what we’re going to do about the monies that Hersh says are being hijacked for use to fund Sunni insurgents against Shi’ite Hezbollah; this is another immediate problem.
Seems so damned stupid that the legitimacy of Hezbollah is reinforced by Israel’s occupation of Palestinian lands and incursions into Lebanon — and yet Israel cannot and will not work cooperatively with Sunni Hamas. Agh. All this is running around in the background, chipping away at any remaining stability in the region, while CheneyCo. rattles sabres at Iran.
egregious @ 97
I think we’re all catching on. Bleed “both sides” (who happen to be Muslims) and any fools who get caught between (us and the dwindling remainder of the Alliance of the Willing).
Who profits? Halliburton & the rest of the war profiteers, who have now so thoroughly compromised our armed forces as to render them suicidal.
And Israel, if it can survive so close to the explosions.
http://windcatpond.blogspot.com/
Alt site in case our server goes. Bookmark it now.
Knocking on wood.
Or is that a gavel I hear?
We’ve reached a day and a time when John Negroponte is considered “too ethical.”
God help us all…
via Prof. Cole -
This is absolutely shameful, that the US is bombing from the air a civilian city that it militarily occupies. You can’t possibly do that without killing innocent civilians, as at Ramadi the other day. It is a War Crime
Fresh thread for everyone.
HotFlash — I agree with your point and was not advocating disobeying an order under ambiguous conditions. Congress should clarify the law. I thought the conversation was in the context of the story of generals threatening to resign before facing that choice.
It’s a note from the jury, folks, according to my sources at the courthouse. Everyone please breathe.
I have a question…anyone? Did paramount pictures make An Inconvenient Truth or do they own any interest in it? The YouTube was removed with this message:
Slowpoke @ 90
tht would depend onwhether they have a VETO PROOF majority.
Don’t forget the teensy problem of the veto power
Slowpoke @ 94
There was news coverage late last week about amending the AUMF, ostensibly because the facts on the ground had changed and it was outdated — nice way of trying to preemptively respond to the right-wing’s Wurlitzer. It’s a matter of how fast they can do this, and if they will have a veto-proof majority; I think unless we rain down a hail storm on Republicans, we will see the same count we saw with the non-binding resolution.
I am starting to feel a sense of panic. No, make that extreme aprehension. The Bushies have put nearly everything in place to suppress dissent. If they move on Iran and people take to the street, they have made it known in not so subtle ways that they intend to turn high tech and painful means of crowd dispersal on us either through electromagnetic radiation devices or nausea inducing sound.
The only hope we have, and it is a small one, is that the press will finally start to realize that the people they have been trying so hard not to offend and to represent fairly, are out to destroy them and the rest of us as well. Will the NYT and other media outlets please wake up and start doing their jobs? The word needs to get out that we are on the brink and once we head over that cliff, it will be a hard, decades-long struggle to get back. We may not get back in our lifetimes.
If you are a reporter, or live with one, and you are reading this, you must know that our fate is in your hands. You have the power to tell the truth and spread it widely. Our reach in the blogs is still limited.
Do something, for God’s sakes.
joel @ 110
My thought too. Mr. “Ambassador to the Death Squads” too nice for Cheney. If that is so, do ya think the Dick waited around until some terrorists came up with a good plan to attack some bldgs in the US?
selise @ 96
Could be just a read back. In fact given the timing, it is imore likely to be a read back. Perhaps a question came up on friday and they decided to get the info to begin a fresh phase of deliberations on Monday morning. that does imply 2 things to me
1) that they finished a “phase of their discussions”
2) that they ar enow onto something new OR there is a point they need to clear up
cathy @ 104
If they had been that close to a verdict Friday afternoon, they would have finished on Friday. There has to be at least 15 minutes of work they needed to do this AM?
lhp and slowpoke at 116 and such (don’t want to zig)
Could a Congressional resolution, even a non-binding resolution like the non-surge one, sufficiently indicate the intent of Congress wrt Iran to serve as a justification to the brass to say no if ordered to invade/bomb Iran?
HotFlash @ 122
If the answer is yes, you’re the genius I’ve been looking for.
Rayne @ 107
In Iran Contra Cobgress gave and order, the WH appeared to pay attention but actually instead went out and Stole militarty ordinance, sold it on th eblack market, laundered the money through parallel bank accounts and phoney foreign language traing centers and funneled the money illegally to the Contras.
All cloak and dagger. All run out OVP (Poppy Bush)
HotFlash @ 122
non binding=no force of law
Slowpoke@61
JEP@66,70
LHP@72
egregious@73
Decades ago, the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) REQUIRED that illegal orders be “disregarded”. It would make things much clearer for those in the military to know that in the absence of a declared war on the US, an attack of any kind upon a non aggressive country is in violation of the Constitution of the US and its treaty obligations of the UN Charter, Geneva conventions, International Law, and may constitute a war crime to do so as well as a crime against humanity. Comming from Congress, a political guidance and support for refusal to violate the UCMJ would be of great assistance to military members of ALL ranks. This too would remove the military somewhat from irrational political acts devised by the neocons in their agenda.
looseheadprop @ 125
This is not to legislate but to clarify. It could be considered a ’signing statement’. I mean, does Congress really need to pass binding resolutions to *not* attack every country on earth? The DeathInc is making grey areas and then using them to the hilt. I am suggesting de-greying an area.
Arnie @ 126
Yes, I am talking about showing support for *anyone* who believes that the Constitution does in fact make treaties and articles that the US is signatory too ‘the law of the land’. This does not require any new legislation, just a signal that this is what will be regarded as the law by Congress. This can come as statements from the various House and Senate committees, legal experts, whatever.
juror being questioned about info rec’d about the case over the weekend, per CNN.
Thanks HotFlash@128, Just a meer 50% plus 1 would do that trick, and it is veto proof. Hot diggity!
Why was the LIBBY jury not sequestered ????
WTF if this jackass wastes taxpayer time and money b/c they could resist watching the news there will be hell to pay…..
Note to techies — I just got lib4’s info slotting itself into my name & mail boxes in the Leave a Reply form. I erased it immed, but — PLEASE, can you guys fix this? Some folks around here shouldn’t have their e-mail addy’s just popping up on other people’s screens! Thanks.
[Mod Note; that’s a server glitch that should not happen. The techies are on it and we apologize.]
oklahoma kiddo
“appealing”. See if I get this? Obama is very anti-Iraq war. The Iraq war is Condi’s signature issue. But the the Sec. of State finds this man “appealing”. Okaaaay.
maybe Joe-Bama is against the war the same way his mentor, Joe Lieberman, was ‘against the war’ when running against Lamont?
He went and pledged fealty to AIPAC just like Hillary.
Jim Clausen @ 11
The Washington State Senate will be holding hearings on March 1st on a resolution calling for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney by the U.S. House of Representatives. Let’s hope the resolution is approved just after a guilty verdict in the Libby trial is rendered!
I want to scream — or is it that I’m hearing a scream echoing back from the future? “A screaming comes across the sky,” the famous opening line of Gravity’s Rainbow, might just as well be the title of Hersh’s story in the New Yorker. “A screaming comes across the sky.” We’re rapidly approaching an apocalyptic future that has a screaming written all across the sky — unless we really scream right here, at home, on the ground — loud enough to start impeachment proceedings.
“The media and Congress need to shine a lot more light, a lot faster, under all those rocks, and let the American people know the danger we’re in.”
It will never happen. The media is in the pockets of the Republicans and Congress has no leaders who are willing to take a strong stand for the people.