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		<title>By: kairos in cal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/26/family-values-behind-bars/#comment-525453</link>
		<dc:creator>kairos in cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Peterr.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks so much for the immigrant family report.  I am in despair over what you’ve reported, what Scarecrow reports today, what is in Newsweek today, (vs. what was really anticipated in the Senate hearings on the 1-2 year Petreaus’ appointment as head of “surge” activity).  There is so much lieing across the&lt;br /&gt;
board on everything that matters to me about&lt;br /&gt;
reasonable morality, much less denial of real Christian values.  I find so little that has any real value or basis for  hope.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your always upholding visions for moral integiry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bless you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peterr.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for the immigrant family report.  I am in despair over what you’ve reported, what Scarecrow reports today, what is in Newsweek today, (vs. what was really anticipated in the Senate hearings on the 1-2 year Petreaus’ appointment as head of “surge” activity).  There is so much lieing across the<br />
board on everything that matters to me about<br />
reasonable morality, much less denial of real Christian values.  I find so little that has any real value or basis for  hope.  </p>
<p>Thanks for your always upholding visions for moral integiry.</p>
<p>Bless you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Day</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/26/family-values-behind-bars/#comment-525072</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is there still in God we trust on the dollar bill in the United States or is it all going to Halliburton and Corrections Corporation of America to jail fathers, mothers and their children just pursuing the American Dream?  Who do these bureaucrats think they are and how do they sleep at night waiting for their pensions to vest to cash out at taxpayer expense after subjecting families to such degrading and humilliating treatment?!?  Enough is enough- and where is the media and Congress- why isn’t Congress all over this betrayal of supposed American family values?!?  CALL YOUR ELECTED OFFICIAL ASAP to protest yet another instance of Bush’s betrayal of family values!  And why don’t we demand that the unelected DHS officials responsible for this horror show be FIRED NOW without their pensions!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there still in God we trust on the dollar bill in the United States or is it all going to Halliburton and Corrections Corporation of America to jail fathers, mothers and their children just pursuing the American Dream?  Who do these bureaucrats think they are and how do they sleep at night waiting for their pensions to vest to cash out at taxpayer expense after subjecting families to such degrading and humilliating treatment?!?  Enough is enough- and where is the media and Congress- why isn’t Congress all over this betrayal of supposed American family values?!?  CALL YOUR ELECTED OFFICIAL ASAP to protest yet another instance of Bush’s betrayal of family values!  And why don’t we demand that the unelected DHS officials responsible for this horror show be FIRED NOW without their pensions!</p>
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		<title>By: marcos zapeda</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/26/family-values-behind-bars/#comment-525064</link>
		<dc:creator>marcos zapeda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!  WHO IN GOD’S NAME AT DHS DESIGNED THIS CONCENTRATION CAMP!  HOW DID DHS BECOME LIKE NAZI GERMANY!  WHERE IS BUSH’S COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATISM!  WHO ARE THESE FACISTS!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!  WHO IN GOD’S NAME AT DHS DESIGNED THIS CONCENTRATION CAMP!  HOW DID DHS BECOME LIKE NAZI GERMANY!  WHERE IS BUSH’S COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATISM!  WHO ARE THESE FACISTS!</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/26/family-values-behind-bars/#comment-524862</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Don’t be so hard on yourself.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What in the world will I think about then?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Don’t be so hard on yourself.”</p>
<p>What in the world will I think about then?</p>
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		<title>By: proudprogressive</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/26/family-values-behind-bars/#comment-524627</link>
		<dc:creator>proudprogressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Egregious i guess there is a lesson there in letting go…see there are people who do step up, as they can, when they, in ways that they can. We must believe in community. Its not all on us as individuals..Will that bill pass tomarrow IF i am not there in the gallery. I made my calls to the reps. Point is we do as we can,when we can. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Besides not being there gave others a chance to step up for Jane and FDL. And likewise all these over welming socio/political issues. gotta trust those who can do, will do. And in fact are doing. Don’t be so hard on yourself. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; So in order to prevent burn out we must give ourselves permission to not be all things, to all people ALL the time..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  and the beauty part is ..its all turning out just fine. i second TSF..yay for the turner in lady !!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egregious i guess there is a lesson there in letting go…see there are people who do step up, as they can, when they, in ways that they can. We must believe in community. Its not all on us as individuals..Will that bill pass tomarrow IF i am not there in the gallery. I made my calls to the reps. Point is we do as we can,when we can. </p>
<p>Besides not being there gave others a chance to step up for Jane and FDL. And likewise all these over welming socio/political issues. gotta trust those who can do, will do. And in fact are doing. Don’t be so hard on yourself. </p>
<p> So in order to prevent burn out we must give ourselves permission to not be all things, to all people ALL the time..</p>
<p>  and the beauty part is ..its all turning out just fine. i second TSF..yay for the turner in lady !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/26/family-values-behind-bars/#comment-524626</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Someone will turn my PRIORITIES in at lost and found?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;707!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone will turn my PRIORITIES in at lost and found?</p>
<p>707!!!</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/26/family-values-behind-bars/#comment-524615</link>
		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-524612&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;egregious @ 218&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;proudprogressive @ 231 &lt;i&gt;And Egregious, thanks for all the risk taking you do as well. Its people like you who do empower so many of us, to do what we can.&lt;br /&gt;
((((FDL))) &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well that’s pretty timely.  I’m sitting here feeling glum that I didn’t go into court today, I might have spared her the wallet/phone thing.  And I don’t think I should drive emptywheel from the airport to downtown at midnight.  Instead I am working on my Russia stuff.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where are my priorities??????&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t worry, someone will turn them in at the Lost and Found.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;{{{{{{ Egregious }}}}}}}}&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-524612"><em>egregious @ 218</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>proudprogressive @ 231 <i>And Egregious, thanks for all the risk taking you do as well. Its people like you who do empower so many of us, to do what we can.<br />
((((FDL))) </i></p>
<p>Well that’s pretty timely.  I’m sitting here feeling glum that I didn’t go into court today, I might have spared her the wallet/phone thing.  And I don’t think I should drive emptywheel from the airport to downtown at midnight.  Instead I am working on my Russia stuff.  </p>
<p>Where are my priorities??????</p>
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<p>Don’t worry, someone will turn them in at the Lost and Found.</p>
<p>{{{{{{ Egregious }}}}}}}}</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/26/family-values-behind-bars/#comment-524612</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;proudprogressive @ 231 &lt;i&gt;And Egregious, thanks for all the risk taking you do as well. Its people like you who do empower so many of us, to do what we can.&lt;br /&gt;
((((FDL))) &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well that’s pretty timely.  I’m sitting here feeling glum that I didn’t go into court today, I might have spared her the wallet/phone thing.  And I don’t think I should drive emptywheel from the airport to downtown at midnight.  Instead I am working on my Russia stuff.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where are my priorities??????&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proudprogressive @ 231 <i>And Egregious, thanks for all the risk taking you do as well. Its people like you who do empower so many of us, to do what we can.<br />
((((FDL))) </i></p>
<p>Well that’s pretty timely.  I’m sitting here feeling glum that I didn’t go into court today, I might have spared her the wallet/phone thing.  And I don’t think I should drive emptywheel from the airport to downtown at midnight.  Instead I am working on my Russia stuff.  </p>
<p>Where are my priorities??????</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/26/family-values-behind-bars/#comment-524608</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-524464&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jane Hamsher @ 169&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-524460&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;emptywheel @&lt;br /&gt;
                165              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-524452&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jane Hamsher @ 157&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
CityGirl is here, she came down to the courthouse and came to my rescue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nothing happening, power went out in media room &amp; jury room (though it’s on in other parts of the courthouse).  Media room with lots of computers looks spooky but cool.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m coming in on the last flight into Dulles–I’ll get in at around midnight. You comfortable leaving the door open and trusting the virtual poodles? Or do you want to leave keys out?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah emptywheel!  No poodles, just me.  I took the train.  I’ll be there…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some nice woman just turned my wallet in, so I’ve got my cell phone back.  Whew.  I felt really cut off there for a bit.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*******&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh YAY!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your cel phone fits in yr wallet?&lt;br /&gt;
Very petite. I approve.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I thot I had the smallest phone in existence.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-524464"><em>Jane Hamsher @ 169</em></a><br />
<a href="#comment-524460"><em>emptywheel @<br />
                165              </em></a><br />
<a href="#comment-524452"><em>Jane Hamsher @ 157</em></a><br />
CityGirl is here, she came down to the courthouse and came to my rescue.</p>
<p>Nothing happening, power went out in media room &amp; jury room (though it’s on in other parts of the courthouse).  Media room with lots of computers looks spooky but cool.</p>
<p>I’m coming in on the last flight into Dulles–I’ll get in at around midnight. You comfortable leaving the door open and trusting the virtual poodles? Or do you want to leave keys out?</p>
<p>Yeah emptywheel!  No poodles, just me.  I took the train.  I’ll be there…</p>
<p>Some nice woman just turned my wallet in, so I’ve got my cell phone back.  Whew.  I felt really cut off there for a bit.</p>
<p>*******</p>
<p>Oh YAY!!!!!</p>
<p>Your cel phone fits in yr wallet?<br />
Very petite. I approve.</p>
<p>I thot I had the smallest phone in existence.</p>
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		<title>By: tbsa</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/26/family-values-behind-bars/#comment-524605</link>
		<dc:creator>tbsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-524473&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Notta Flatlander @ 177&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mickey @ 156 &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; portia.vz&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;How do the people in charge dare call themselves Christian?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s a very good question. An even better question is how do the people who “call themselves Christian” rationalize electing them? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because very few people who call themselves Christians, are.   What they are is christianists, they get their “values” from people like Jerry Falwell and Ted Haggard, and what they spew has little if anything to do with Christ.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mostly because their religiosity can disguise the fact most of them are morally and spiritually bankrupt.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-524473"><em>Notta Flatlander @ 177</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Mickey @ 156 </p>
<blockquote><p> portia.vz</p>
<blockquote><p>How do the people in charge dare call themselves Christian?</p>
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<p>That’s a very good question. An even better question is how do the people who “call themselves Christian” rationalize electing them? </p>
</blockquote>
<p>Because very few people who call themselves Christians, are.   What they are is christianists, they get their “values” from people like Jerry Falwell and Ted Haggard, and what they spew has little if anything to do with Christ.</p>
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<p>Mostly because their religiosity can disguise the fact most of them are morally and spiritually bankrupt.</p>
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