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		<title>By: MikeyLUD</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/25/pioneering-corruption-and-political-payback/#comment-523949</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeyLUD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pioneers and Rangers, Office of Special Plans, Iranian Directorate, Off the Record Club…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, more than ever, the words we use to describe anything can so cleverly mask or blend any actual meaning they are intended to describe, and all of these clubs and organizations with these conspicuous, nonchalant names are making my head spin!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pioneers and Rangers, Office of Special Plans, Iranian Directorate, Off the Record Club…</p>
<p>Now, more than ever, the words we use to describe anything can so cleverly mask or blend any actual meaning they are intended to describe, and all of these clubs and organizations with these conspicuous, nonchalant names are making my head spin!</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/25/pioneering-corruption-and-political-payback/#comment-523181</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;EW (216) — and he has paid his dues over the years, one of the early neo-cons planted in Reagan’s administration.  Peace Corps Advisory Council member — what a flipping joke.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EW (216) — and he has paid his dues over the years, one of the early neo-cons planted in Reagan’s administration.  Peace Corps Advisory Council member — what a flipping joke.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/25/pioneering-corruption-and-political-payback/#comment-523149</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had a dream last night that Robert Novak was visiting (!) and I was tryig to stay serious and ask questions about the Plame/Libby case, pretending I hadn’t been obsessed with it for years.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very weird, maybe tonight it will be Karl!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a dream last night that Robert Novak was visiting (!) and I was tryig to stay serious and ask questions about the Plame/Libby case, pretending I hadn’t been obsessed with it for years.  </p>
<p>Very weird, maybe tonight it will be Karl!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/25/pioneering-corruption-and-political-payback/#comment-523144</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-522745&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rayne @&lt;br /&gt;
                133              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some time I am going to have to sit down with Marcy and map out this mess.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Duberstein and Weber don’t appear in the Pioneer-Ranger list as donors.  Duberstein, for example, has given 174K over his lifetime as reported and documented by FEC to numerous conservative candidates and PAC’s, but not to Bush directly.  Yet if you follow any of the PAC’s to which Duberstein gave, at some point they intersect back through the Bush racket.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The VRWC has this massive myriad of PAC’s and other instruments through which they run donations; from where I sit, some of it looks like laundering.  Makes tracing the outline of this cabal challenging; we really need more hands on board.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dubie is probably one of the donors that Hohlt put together to reach his super Ranger status.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-522745"><em>Rayne @<br />
                133              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Some time I am going to have to sit down with Marcy and map out this mess.</p>
<p>Duberstein and Weber don’t appear in the Pioneer-Ranger list as donors.  Duberstein, for example, has given 174K over his lifetime as reported and documented by FEC to numerous conservative candidates and PAC’s, but not to Bush directly.  Yet if you follow any of the PAC’s to which Duberstein gave, at some point they intersect back through the Bush racket.</p>
<p>The VRWC has this massive myriad of PAC’s and other instruments through which they run donations; from where I sit, some of it looks like laundering.  Makes tracing the outline of this cabal challenging; we really need more hands on board.</p>
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<p>Dubie is probably one of the donors that Hohlt put together to reach his super Ranger status.</p>
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		<title>By: Progressive Gold &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Republicans, Terrorists? Same Difference.&#8221; Bush Pioneer Also Bankrolls Al-Qaeda And Republicans</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/25/pioneering-corruption-and-political-payback/#comment-523130</link>
		<dc:creator>Progressive Gold &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Republicans, Terrorists? Same Difference.&#8221; Bush Pioneer Also Bankrolls Al-Qaeda And Republicans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[…] Emptywheel at Firedoglake on the Republican nexus of money and corruption: It really is getting to the point where we ought to start going down the list of Pioneers and Rangers and asking how each has advanced the criminal plots of the GOP, because it’s sure beginning to look like the Pioneers and Rangers program is just a brilliant front for old-style Dirty Tricks. […]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] Emptywheel at Firedoglake on the Republican nexus of money and corruption: It really is getting to the point where we ought to start going down the list of Pioneers and Rangers and asking how each has advanced the criminal plots of the GOP, because it’s sure beginning to look like the Pioneers and Rangers program is just a brilliant front for old-style Dirty Tricks. […]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/25/pioneering-corruption-and-political-payback/#comment-523117</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wait! This just in- Breaking from ABC:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;CHENEY MAKES SURPRISE VISIT TO PAKISTAN AND URGES PRESIDENT PERVEZ MUSHARRAF TO TAKE MORE FORCEFUL ACTION AGAINST AL QAEDA.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looks like he’s doing his Round the World tour, because he realizes that it won’t be long before he can’t make such junkets any more, once his indictment is announced. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, do you remember what happened in Iran Contra, when investigators were about to call Bill Casey on the dock under oath? He conveniently expired.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any bets that Cheney will allow himself to be cross-examined by Fitzgerald under oath in public?  What are the options?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(1) He will claim executive privilege and decline to answer&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(2) If that doesn’t work, he’ll claim he was just carrying out lawful orders of the President (you recall that he thinks presidents are basically above the law, and can do anything they want to for the sake of National Security), or&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(3) He’ll stop taking his heart medications and start wolfing down bacon triple cheeseburgers, conveniently expiring of hardening of the arteries just before he has to take the witness stand.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which will it be?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait! This just in- Breaking from ABC:</p>
<blockquote><p>CHENEY MAKES SURPRISE VISIT TO PAKISTAN AND URGES PRESIDENT PERVEZ MUSHARRAF TO TAKE MORE FORCEFUL ACTION AGAINST AL QAEDA.</p>
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<p>Looks like he’s doing his Round the World tour, because he realizes that it won’t be long before he can’t make such junkets any more, once his indictment is announced. </p>
<p>BTW, do you remember what happened in Iran Contra, when investigators were about to call Bill Casey on the dock under oath? He conveniently expired.</p>
<p>Any bets that Cheney will allow himself to be cross-examined by Fitzgerald under oath in public?  What are the options?</p>
<p>(1) He will claim executive privilege and decline to answer</p>
<p>(2) If that doesn’t work, he’ll claim he was just carrying out lawful orders of the President (you recall that he thinks presidents are basically above the law, and can do anything they want to for the sake of National Security), or</p>
<p>(3) He’ll stop taking his heart medications and start wolfing down bacon triple cheeseburgers, conveniently expiring of hardening of the arteries just before he has to take the witness stand.</p>
<p>Which will it be?</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: montag</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/25/pioneering-corruption-and-political-payback/#comment-523035</link>
		<dc:creator>montag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-522826&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pachacutec @ 159&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Heh.  You can’t cast me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, TRex is easy… “Godzilla, oh, Godzilla, casting call….”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-522826"><em>Pachacutec @ 159</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Heh.  You can’t cast me.</p>
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<p>But, TRex is easy… “Godzilla, oh, Godzilla, casting call….”</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/25/pioneering-corruption-and-political-payback/#comment-523005</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-522964&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Neil @                 208              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Kristine, Did I get the lyric right?  I was reaching for it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, but I think I may have blown in in the reply:  I think it’s “It just may be a lunatic you’re looking for.&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-522964"><em>Neil @                 208              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Kristine, Did I get the lyric right?  I was reaching for it.</p>
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<p>Yeah, but I think I may have blown in in the reply:  I think it’s “It just may be a lunatic you’re looking for.<em></em></p>
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		<title>By: SteveAudio</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/25/pioneering-corruption-and-political-payback/#comment-522994</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveAudio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-522924&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pachacutec @ 192&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Forrest Whittaker is nuts.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually, he’s quite a nice man. And I got to introduce him to Michael Keaton.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But yeah, sometimes the over the top spirituality stuff can be off-putting.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-522924"><em>Pachacutec @ 192</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Forrest Whittaker is nuts.</p>
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<p>Actually, he’s quite a nice man. And I got to introduce him to Michael Keaton.</p>
<p>But yeah, sometimes the over the top spirituality stuff can be off-putting.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/25/pioneering-corruption-and-political-payback/#comment-522975</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Calling Bush’s administration “remarkably clean,” he added: “The amazing thing is that they went almost five years without having any kind of scandal.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ah yes, high praise indeed.  Why don’t we all pat ourselves on the back for going so long without receiving a criminal indictment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do believe the bar for being president has been lowered to the magma core of our lovely planet. Which, incidentally, is where Bush administration officials plan to retire. Global warming, eh!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- Tom&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Calling Bush’s administration “remarkably clean,” he added: “The amazing thing is that they went almost five years without having any kind of scandal.”</em></p>
<p>Ah yes, high praise indeed.  Why don’t we all pat ourselves on the back for going so long without receiving a criminal indictment.</p>
<p>I do believe the bar for being president has been lowered to the magma core of our lovely planet. Which, incidentally, is where Bush administration officials plan to retire. Global warming, eh!</p>
<p>- Tom</p>
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