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		<title>By: www.buzzflash.net</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/24/great-supreme-court-decision-but-not-ours/#comment-521599</link>
		<dc:creator>www.buzzflash.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Firedoglake weblog » Great Supreme Court Decision! . . . But Not Ours&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;New York Times highlights an important judicial decision by the highest court in the land. In a case involving the government’s practice to “detain foreign born suspects of terrorism indefinitely on secret evidence without charges,” the Supreme C…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>New York Times highlights an important judicial decision by the highest court in the land. In a case involving the government’s practice to “detain foreign born suspects of terrorism indefinitely on secret evidence without charges,” the Supreme C…</p>
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		<title>By: Scarecrow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/24/great-supreme-court-decision-but-not-ours/#comment-521523</link>
		<dc:creator>Scarecrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Boston 1775 — thanks for the thoughtful comment.  I think most people are aware of the tensions between political satire and its cousin, ridicule, and the pursuit of “truth,” however defined.  We each draw the line for what is/is not acceptable discourse at different places, depending on how intensely we feel about the subject of our scorn. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am sometimes disappointed with Tim Russert and sometimes appreciative, but I don’t think I (or anyone else here) have ever confused Tim with Dick Cheney. But I see your point: I may not use “pumpkinhead” or “tweety,” but I’ve probably described Cheney in ways more derogatory than “Darth Vader.” I admit I don’t know how to draw that line.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also believe firedoglake is evolving.  I like to think it’s because we all learn from each other and from our experience. It may also be that we realize that blogs like this are no longer commenting from outside the main political discourse but have become (and earned the right to be) very much part of it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boston 1775 — thanks for the thoughtful comment.  I think most people are aware of the tensions between political satire and its cousin, ridicule, and the pursuit of “truth,” however defined.  We each draw the line for what is/is not acceptable discourse at different places, depending on how intensely we feel about the subject of our scorn. </p>
<p>I am sometimes disappointed with Tim Russert and sometimes appreciative, but I don’t think I (or anyone else here) have ever confused Tim with Dick Cheney. But I see your point: I may not use “pumpkinhead” or “tweety,” but I’ve probably described Cheney in ways more derogatory than “Darth Vader.” I admit I don’t know how to draw that line.  </p>
<p>I also believe firedoglake is evolving.  I like to think it’s because we all learn from each other and from our experience. It may also be that we realize that blogs like this are no longer commenting from outside the main political discourse but have become (and earned the right to be) very much part of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Boston1775</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/24/great-supreme-court-decision-but-not-ours/#comment-521223</link>
		<dc:creator>Boston1775</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Scarecrow, AZ Matt at 78 and 81,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In light of your concern that the editor would allow “fun” journalism in using mug shots of Fitzgerald and Wilson, may I ask for some thoughtful consideration of Tim Russert.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FDL has allowed and at times promoted the idea that “pumpkinhead” is a “tool” etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When I have brought Tim up for your reconsideration I have been called all sorts of things.&lt;br /&gt;
I draw the line with letting ideas fester that Tim Russert was complicit with those who may be found guilty of treason.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I challenge the editors of this publication to think about that as FDL grows.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tim Russert did not invoke his privilege to refrain from answering the questions put to him by the FBI.   Why?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tim Russert was asked to remain quiet about this.  Why did he not break the story?  Why did he do what was requested of him?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why did lawyers from NBC get involved?  Might it not be for something beyond Tim’s personal predicament?  Might they not have to examine the assaults on the press?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s Tim Russert’s words against Libby and the ruthless people with billions; the Vice President tilted his head when Libby told him that Tim Russert was going to be the alibi.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tim Russert: pumpkinhead, tool.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FDL is a young organization.  It is passionate and smart.  Truth - The Truth - is used here often.  Most harm done in this world is done in the name of someone’s Truth.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scarecrow, AZ Matt at 78 and 81,</p>
<p>In light of your concern that the editor would allow “fun” journalism in using mug shots of Fitzgerald and Wilson, may I ask for some thoughtful consideration of Tim Russert.</p>
<p>FDL has allowed and at times promoted the idea that “pumpkinhead” is a “tool” etc.</p>
<p>When I have brought Tim up for your reconsideration I have been called all sorts of things.<br />
I draw the line with letting ideas fester that Tim Russert was complicit with those who may be found guilty of treason.</p>
<p>I challenge the editors of this publication to think about that as FDL grows.</p>
<p>Tim Russert did not invoke his privilege to refrain from answering the questions put to him by the FBI.   Why?  </p>
<p>Tim Russert was asked to remain quiet about this.  Why did he not break the story?  Why did he do what was requested of him?</p>
<p>Why did lawyers from NBC get involved?  Might it not be for something beyond Tim’s personal predicament?  Might they not have to examine the assaults on the press?</p>
<p>It’s Tim Russert’s words against Libby and the ruthless people with billions; the Vice President tilted his head when Libby told him that Tim Russert was going to be the alibi.</p>
<p>Tim Russert: pumpkinhead, tool.</p>
<p>FDL is a young organization.  It is passionate and smart.  Truth &#8211; The Truth &#8211; is used here often.  Most harm done in this world is done in the name of someone’s Truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Lupin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/24/great-supreme-court-decision-but-not-ours/#comment-521198</link>
		<dc:creator>Lupin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Many months ago on Kos, I posted a link to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chipsites.com/derechos/dictadura_poder_2_eng.html&quot;&gt;an article that describes rather well how a sound and democratic legal system was perverted to serve Pinochet in Chile&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is, of course, to a lesser degree, what is happening in the United States.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is recommended reading to anyone in the legal profession.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The lawyers who opposed that view in Chile were killed, forced into exile or beaten into submisson.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Help will not come from the Law. The Law says, ultimately, what the people in charge want it to say.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many months ago on Kos, I posted a link to <a href="http://www.chipsites.com/derechos/dictadura_poder_2_eng.html">an article that describes rather well how a sound and democratic legal system was perverted to serve Pinochet in Chile</a>.</p>
<p>This is, of course, to a lesser degree, what is happening in the United States.</p>
<p>This is recommended reading to anyone in the legal profession.</p>
<p>The lawyers who opposed that view in Chile were killed, forced into exile or beaten into submisson.</p>
<p>Help will not come from the Law. The Law says, ultimately, what the people in charge want it to say.</p>
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		<title>By: pow wow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/24/great-supreme-court-decision-but-not-ours/#comment-521169</link>
		<dc:creator>pow wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 06:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-521120&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dab_from_CT @&lt;br /&gt;
                101              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;pow wow - I sure hope you send your comments to Kaiser &amp; Howell&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the nudge, dab.  Will do, with revisions.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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                101              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>pow wow &#8211; I sure hope you send your comments to Kaiser &amp; Howell</p>
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<p>Thanks for the nudge, dab.  Will do, with revisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/24/great-supreme-court-decision-but-not-ours/#comment-521167</link>
		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 06:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Scotian- thanks so much for your reply.  Whew!  I certainly wouldn’t want to discourage you in any way!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scotian- thanks so much for your reply.  Whew!  I certainly wouldn’t want to discourage you in any way!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/24/great-supreme-court-decision-but-not-ours/#comment-521153</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;EPU’d Rayne - Comey, who also tried to help pro-torture, pro-violations of UCMJ and Gen.Convention, pro-stretch the truth to Senat committees Wm Haynes get an appointment to the Fourth Circuit, went to a Gen Counsel slot at Lockheed over a year ago.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&amp;STORY=/www/story/08-04-2005/0004082794&amp;EDATE=&quot;&gt;http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-.....amp;EDATE=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;McNulty now hold Comey’s old Dep AG post. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not a fan in any way, shape or form.  Quite a few others are.  Mary rhymes with contrary.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EPU’d Rayne &#8211; Comey, who also tried to help pro-torture, pro-violations of UCMJ and Gen.Convention, pro-stretch the truth to Senat committees Wm Haynes get an appointment to the Fourth Circuit, went to a Gen Counsel slot at Lockheed over a year ago.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&amp;STORY=/www/story/08-04-2005/0004082794&amp;EDATE=">http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-&#8230;..amp;EDATE=</a></p>
<p>McNulty now hold Comey’s old Dep AG post. </p>
<p>I’m not a fan in any way, shape or form.  Quite a few others are.  Mary rhymes with contrary.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotian</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/24/great-supreme-court-decision-but-not-ours/#comment-521150</link>
		<dc:creator>Scotian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;VG:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t sweat it, the only people I have ever seen complain about my format/length were critics that could not deal with the material.  I just like to poke some self deprecating humour regarding my rather well known predilection for excessive verbiage…:)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I really have been lurking here for at least 80% of DFL’s life, and by that I include the former site as well as this one, and I know lengthy comments are acceptable if there is something being said in them, and I like to think I can usually pass that standard…:)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I did not mean to leave you with any impression of hurt feelings or offence, there was none taken because none was offered, I understood that from the start.  I am sorry I was not more clear about that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VG:</p>
<p>Don’t sweat it, the only people I have ever seen complain about my format/length were critics that could not deal with the material.  I just like to poke some self deprecating humour regarding my rather well known predilection for excessive verbiage…:)</p>
<p>I really have been lurking here for at least 80% of DFL’s life, and by that I include the former site as well as this one, and I know lengthy comments are acceptable if there is something being said in them, and I like to think I can usually pass that standard…:)</p>
<p>I did not mean to leave you with any impression of hurt feelings or offence, there was none taken because none was offered, I understood that from the start.  I am sorry I was not more clear about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/24/great-supreme-court-decision-but-not-ours/#comment-521148</link>
		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-521113&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scotian @ 100&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;VG:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have my own style of rude and snarky, just ask anyone that is an old timer of Political Animal (as in over a year, as the last year or so I haven’t been there much since the dark days came with Harper’s election) but I have unfortunately a rather detailed (long winded) style of writing in part because of the way my thought processes work.  It comes from having severe ADHD and how I learned to work around it, sorry…:)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh dear Scotian, no offense meant on my part.  You are following the long tradition of Hugh (to name one name) et al who post long and thoughtful comments at FDL.  I really apologize if my comment was untoward.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-521113"><em>Scotian @ 100</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>VG:</p>
<p>I have my own style of rude and snarky, just ask anyone that is an old timer of Political Animal (as in over a year, as the last year or so I haven’t been there much since the dark days came with Harper’s election) but I have unfortunately a rather detailed (long winded) style of writing in part because of the way my thought processes work.  It comes from having severe ADHD and how I learned to work around it, sorry…:)</p>
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<p>Oh dear Scotian, no offense meant on my part.  You are following the long tradition of Hugh (to name one name) et al who post long and thoughtful comments at FDL.  I really apologize if my comment was untoward.</p>
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		<title>By: dab_from_CT</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/24/great-supreme-court-decision-but-not-ours/#comment-521120</link>
		<dc:creator>dab_from_CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;pow wow - I sure hope you send your comments to Kaiser &amp; Howell&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pow wow &#8211; I sure hope you send your comments to Kaiser &amp; Howell</p>
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