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Libby Trial
So we're all waiting for the jurors to come back. Some heavy hitting, out of the ballpark justice is due but we wait powerlessly at this point for the verdict. Like a pregnancy test, or an HIV test, or a job that you want, or a crush to call, or waiting for a loved one to check in from a scary place.
Whilst we wait, I have a confession to make… until about two weeks ago I didn't know why "comments" on my posts (and others on FDL) usually started off with "FITZ!" I always thought that it was some kind of blog-speak slang that I didn't know about. Not being of Irish decent, I definitely knew that it wasn't referring to me. I literally only put two and two together on what/who "FITZ!" was referring to once the trial started. (Please bear in mind that I was only recently clued in to what "lol" meant). Granted, I knew who Fitzgerald was, but sometimes I need numerous hits over the head for me to say "oh, I get it."
Anna Nicole Smith Hearing
Being a lover of the bizarre and sensationalistic (and a fan of Anna's), I tuned in to some live coverage at some really juicy moments. I'd be a terrible juror. I'm such a sucker. First I sympathized with Howard, then the mom, then the (probable) father, then back to Howard and the (probable) father. Please let there be cameras during the paternity suit. I'd love to see Zsa Zsa Gabor's husband- Prince What The Hell take the stand.
For those of you in LA who feel like blowing off some steam (whatever the source of the flame may be), my band is playing tomorrow night at Safari Sam's in Hollywood with Nudist Priest and The Amadans. WARNING: there will be live male nudity. Not for the weak of rock nor for those without an appreciation of the absurd.
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ESTEN! Welcome back to Pre-K school!
Donita! Fini! Welcome back my friends. Let’s ROCK.
That girl w/the shaved sides is adorable!
Or, is it a guy? Who cares! ADORABLE.
The suspense…
Carlos’ “Revelation”
Starts real mellow, then eventually matches our Fitzfits angst in sublime fashion…
spin!
Is it scooter gotten his fitzing yet?
F I T Z !!!!
Ha! Very apt. Thanks.
Now I’m waiting on a YouTube of them doing “Suggestion” with Amy Pickering singing.
Is Anna Nicole still dead? I wish she’d stop with that already. You’d think her continued necrepitude is all that is happening in the world, what with the 24/7 coverage on cable news.
Hopefully she’ll stop being dead very soon so we can catch up on the two wars we’re in and the two we’re trying to get started (the continuing prodding of Iran, and our Vice President’s wonderful overtures to China this week. Earth to VP Dick: we can’t really spare the 25,000 extra soldiers for Iraq right now. What makes you think we have any ground to stand on with our tough talk towards the world’s most populous nation?)
Thanks Donita. Love the story about Fitz!
EPU – FDL and Video Blogs
hah. what a screwed up comment at 5. Dont do ludes and type. ;)
Hi Donita. I have “waiting for the worms” in my head. (Pink Floyd)
FUGAZI- Waiting Room. F**KIN’ perfect. We are all Margin Walkers!
P.S. LOVED LOVED LOVED
that “article” today!
((((((((fini/donita group hug)))))))
Is it Nudist Priest that has the 5 nude males? Ever hear of the Wood Hollies? ;)
conspiracy theory:
after failing to distract the public with a diaper wearing astronaut in a love triangle, rove, libby, and co. coordinates a black-ops mission to make anna nicole smiths murder look like an accident so that all the news networks focus exclusively on a circus, to take attention away from one of the most damning trials in recent memory..
am i spinning out of control?
Donita – Yay! I’m in town. I would like to see you all!
dachoste: Yes.
wow. GREAT vid!!!
Actually, Britney Spears is a “conservative.” She’s been going in and out of rehab to take some of the heat off Scooter & Shooter.
Donita, Ambassador Joe Wilson commented on an earlier thread today, so it’s probable he and Valerie will at least be lurking on this thread.
OT, for Jane, what we need from you is that the Jury has returned a verdict and that we’re “on the clock” for fifteen minutes. Once you tell us that, you can contribute much more from inside the court room. We’ll know the verdict from multiple sources within seconds after you learn it inside the court room.
ah… College Radio days
nice
Ah, Fugazi is just what I needed. D.C.’S Finest. Takes me right back to 1990 tour. Five dollars and a bottle of Jack. (I wassn’t a straght edger, probally should of been).
EPU’d
Speaking of Joe Wilson, perhaps some of the lawyerly types might help us while away the time with their thoughts about what implications some of the information that emerged during this trial may have for the civil suit.
Nudist Priest….
HAHAHHAAAAAHHAAAAAAAAA snort.
God, thats funny.
If the verdict is Guilty, I would be willing to bet that a terrorist threat will be announced within 10 minutes. That will divert media attention elsewhere for a day or so, until they announce to the public that the threat has been foiled.
Hi Donita, I agree, I hope the paternity trial is televised! there’s a cool video up on youtube of L7 with Dave Grohl on drums! good weekend to all!
I think one thing we have to look at is the pressure on the jury to finish things up before the weekend. So if it’s 2ish there now, that pressure is going to build pretty steadily over the next couple of hours. They will steadily become more and more efficient, trying to get to the finish line.
Of course it’s probably better for the Cause and our information/truth-challenged Country if they’re still working through it (guilty–guilty–guilty–guilty…) and hold off through the weekend. As Friday afternoon news dumps go, this has the potential to be unprecedented. And the timing could definitely have a big effect on the spin.
And now I’m thinking about Fitzgerald and this story in full Russell Crowe Gladiator mode: hold… hold… Unleash Hell!
Jacqrat @
13
Hehehe…my bad. I forgot to move the timer back a few minutes and did my just in the nick of time article delivery routine not realizing it was posted on the front page sans article for a minute. Whoopsie!
I saw Michael Franti & Spearhead last night at the Wiltern. Awesome show. Dennis Kucinich was in the house, too!
I can’t really understand why Franti isn’t super-ultra famous. His music is so powerful and blatantly anti-War, anti-Bush… everything that made people go into a frenzy over the Dixie Chicks, but times a thousand.
Speaking of the Wiltern, they just announced that Iggy Pop will be playing there in April.
Sorry I can’t make it tomorrow night, Donita. Coincidentally, I just found out via email that the opera I will be attending, Wagner’s Tannhauser, contains nudity and viewer discretion is advised. Must be something in the L.A. air this week.
cool video…I love when the fans sings like real celebration…Joe Lally just played here in Brazil with his solo project…I remember Ian M. came in 93 with L7…
this thing with Anna Nicole is bizarre…like James Brown…2 months funeral?!
Fugazi. Reminds me I need to dig some old cassette tapes out now.
OT – I’m glad to see Britain is doing the right thing – removing troops from Iraq and placing them in Afghanistan. I wonder how BushCo is going to spin this.
LONDON (AP) – Britain will soon announce it is bolstering its force in Afghanistan with an extra 1,000 soldiers, British media reported Friday, days after the country said it plans to withdraw 1,600 troops from Iraq in coming months.
Defense Minister Des Browne is expected to provide details of the deployment to Parliament on Monday, the Guardian newspaper said. The Defense Ministry declined to confirm the report, which also appeared on Sky and the British Broadcasting Corp.
(snip)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl…..10,00.html
The Fugazi record that Waiting Room is on (I believe it’s 13 songs?) is one of my all-time favorite records. I must have seen Fugazi a thousand times, mostly at City Gardens in Trenton, NJ. One of the best live bands ever.
It gives me chills to think about those shows.
I can hear the opening bass line of Waiting Room and the ticking of the drums stick against the side of the snare in my head RIGHT NOW.
Thanks Donita, you just made my Friday by bringing back such fond memories!
*peeking in* Are we there yet?
How ’bout now?
Now?
I don’t get why people think this story can become prey to the Friday Garbage Dump Syndrome.
This is not a typical story.
Trust me. If Libby gets convicted today, it’ll be all over the Sunday talkers and the Sunday editorials.
That’s much better than having it come out on Monday and be diluted with a week’s worth of distractions before the Sunday media outlets get to it.
Waiting in Vain here with Annie Lennox.
[sigh]
flounder @ 32
Speaking of cassettes… Has anyone read the book “Love is a Mix Tape” by Rob Sheffield?
If you ever made a mix tape in your life, you need to read this book. It’s fantastic!
Elastica!!
Dover Bitch @ 30
An opera with nudity? That sounds pretty wild! I hope they are featuring attractive people in the nude roles… I really wouldn’t want to see some opera stars in the nude.
Get the emails.
http://www.wilsonsupport.org/
Just sayin’.
-
Hi Dover, always nice to see you on an FDL thread.
(Since I usually don’t comment on Donita’s threads, this probably says more about me)
jayackroyd @ 39
Annie, told me
Get out of here
Head to the sea
The sun’s hot and the air is clean,
Best things in the world are free!
I think I saw L7 and Fugazi that year too. Was that a Sonic Youth tour too? Mike Watt too? Might be mixing stuff up.
Fugazi was the best band to go see live. The elctricity in the air at their shows was wonderful and you always had a feeling of I Might Be In Danger Here at those shows. I broke a finger in a moshpit at a Fugazi show and didn’t leave for the ER until the end of the show. Blockheads we were back then.
A good documentary on Hardcore was released to DVD on Tuesday: American Hardcore.
-Netflix has it
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 28
That’s what makes us human… and so darn LOVEABLE!
Dick Cheney had the audacity to utter this phrase today when talking about Pelosi’s advocacy of a troop pull-out.
“You also have to be accountable for the results.”
Talk about comedy gold.
-GSD
twolf1 @ 46
I saw this in the theatre. It IS a good movie.
Some obvious gaps and exclusions, but still a good movie.
Hayduke @ 44
This sounds like a Grunge fan’s fever dream, you been holding the peyote? You gotta sharesy daresy there bro!
OK, my turn…FITZ!
Donita Sparks @ 51
DONITA! FITZ! JUSTICE! I CAN’T STOP SHOUTING IN TEXT! HELP!
Claudia @ 40
I know what you mean. I’m afraid to bring my binoculars!
I saw Kurt Weill’s “Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny” a couple weeks ago and that was pretty racy. But I wasn’t too impressed with it.
John Casper @ 42
Likewise, John!
I’ve been watching some of the ANS trial coverage. At first, it was ridiculous how much attention it was (is) getting. Now though, I feel so sorry for her and hope she’s resting in peace. Very sad story.
And we’re waiting……..
waiting……..
waiting…..
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 52
I hear breathing helps. ;)
GSD @ 48
If he’s talking about accountability towards the citizens of the USA, Cheney’s a failure, but if he’s talking about the billions in no-bid deals he made for his friends, they probably think he’s been quite successful.
Checkout line – Citizen King
:-)
KML @ 56
[inhales deeply][exhales] Ahhh…better. Thanks!
GSD @48
That IS comic gold. It’s funny because it’s true.
OT. By the way I am curious. Blair has mentioned that calming Baghdad is the most important part of Iraq. Because Britain is vested mostly in Southern Iraq, he justifies his troop withdrawal.
To play devils advocate, I would have at least expected him to refocus his troops closer to Baghdad. If securing Baghad is quintessential (sp) for the war effort, why not focus on Baghdad instead of leaving? MIXED MESSAGES!!
I wait I wait I wait . . . .
Okay, you got me. I had to buy and download the entire ELO remastered “Eldorado”. Now I’ve gone below 100 bucks for the first time in two years (my sister sends me a couple hundred bucks’ credit every xmas).
So I am going to listen to the entire thing while I read the comments. But, as luck would have it, Edwin Hawkins Singers is the artist just before ELO. SO, I am listening to that – FULL VOLUME – in anticipation of a very, very, very, Fitz! “OH, Happy Day!”
Stringfever Bolero – youtube
KestrelBrighteyes @ 35
20 more minutes.
It’s not inside information! It’s just what I tell the kids, every time, when they ask how much longer.
I read that Cheney was in Asia waving a big stick at China. I don’t know how any country’s leaders can listen to him anymore. To me, it seems like he’s been marginalized by recent events.
Fini @ 59
LOL
It was actually EW’s idea.
I’m still slightly skeptical.
theo @ 27
Oh wow, that was when we played the Gulf War protest march in front of LA’s City Hall. Thanks for telling me about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zIkxe2Vvt0
Dr. Bong @
58
Jalopy Style!
How’s the server load?
During Marcy’s live blogging I refreshed only once every fifteen minutes.
With the jury out I can’t help myself. I refresh compulsively.
Thanks for the crack.
Neil says FITZ!
FITZ!
Justice says FITZ!
FITZ! says FITZ!
Fitz!
I have served on 3 juries. In each case I was struck by how long my panels took to agree to (what appeared to me to) be the obvious verdict. Group dynamics take over as well as the discoveries that (a) others noticed facts and evidence I didn’t and (b) people can put together the same facts and evidence in different ways.
Which leads me to my questions: (1) What is the courtroom betting on how long the jury will take to reach a verdict? (2) How long until we start to entertain the likelihood that the jury is hung?
now I’m channeling my late great aunts and uncles: “ALRIGHT ALREADY!!! jeez”
is it just peculiar north east coast vernacular or?
Talk about low expectations. Dick Cheney is patting himself on the back because the United States hasn’t suffered another 9/11.
“We’ve gone more than five years without another 9/11. That’s not an accident, but it’s because we’ve done some very controversial things.”
Congrats Dick, you sure are a winner in my book now.
-GSD
John Forde @ 69
Under 10,000 which should be ok, right esteemed mods?
We should talk now about frequency of comments once the verdict is in. That could break the bank.
So what’s the word, in the immediate post-verdict period don’t comment more than every ___ minutes. ?
Dover Bitch @ 53
I think nudity is sometimes thrown in when the acting/singing isn’t very good.
I asked about the Wood Hollies earlier. They were a band we saw a decade or so ago. They had been voted 3rd Worst in LA at the time and they were simply *awful*!! Aside from having too many members, they had a couple of people in togas who did leaps in front of the audience and threw things. We saw them in the basement of some hotel (might have been the Roosevelt).
Maybe the jury’s in on it too and they’re waiting for the Friday night news dump to give their verdict…
egregious @
64
“Do I have to stop the car?”
Donita Sparks @ 67
eh…well, I’ve just uploaded that video from my collection…I hope thats ok for you donita! I put some videos there from other concerts, including L7 in Rio…I hope you don’t mind…if you want to remove anything just let me know… and by the way, write me back!!! rock on donita!
Picking up on the Cheney interview/article and his delusion from the previous thread, I just don’t understand why there aren’t more connections in the press and punditry to the ridiculous failed 03-06 policy in Iraq to Cheney by way of Rumsfeld. As the escalation/”surge” begins and Petraeus (sp?) gets in way too late and too little with a legitimate counterinsurgency strategy, the fact that Rumsfeld’s approach was horrendous is becoming accepted wisdom. McCain tried to pin it on Casey, but it was really just Rumsfeld stubborn myopic delusion… which he shared and conspired on with Cheney. There’s general acceptance now that the policy was a complete failure, that Rumsfeld was responsible and dismissed after the election, but no forceful, sustained argument that Cheney was co-architect of the policy with Rumsfeld. You would think that the Feith wristslap would have helped start that up, but he was loosely attached to the Pentagon and Rumsfeld’s guy.
Maybe the Libby verdict and its follow-up will finally bring this to the fore. I’m afraid I’m not getting the point across very clearly or effectively, and I’d love to hear the thoughts and sharp writing of the elite FDL cadre on this point. It just seems to me to be yet another big missing part of the discussion.
Claudia @
40
The scene from Tannhauser DB is describing – Venusburg’s pleasure palace – is sometimes done with faux nudity, but the chorus in the unclad role are cast for physical as well as vocal attractiveness. Wagner added the scene for the 1869 Paris performance in an effort to get the wags from the “Jockey Club” to come into the opera house before the 2nd act.
The 2nd act of Wagner’s “Parsifal” has a scene with as many as dozens of “Flower Maidens” who try to seduce the hero. They are almost always acted faux nude, and sometimes actually nude.
If the verdict doesn’t come today,I’m not feeling too good.
Infoshaman, my guess is we’ll find out next week. There were 5 charges against Libby? Each of those can be debated or at least gone over for a few hours depending on how the jury took the evidence or testimony.
Some may be decided quick, but others could be open to debate. I don’t foresee a hung jury unless evidence is ignored by one side or the other. Also, I’d guess by the end of next week, people would start rumoring ‘hung jury’.
The jury seems to consist of some smart folk. I’m guessing that because of the weight of this trial, they are going over the evidence in a pragmatic approach.
Not a lawyer! I don’t even play one on TV.
The Waiting Room… I love music, always trying to catch a live gig somewhere.
Mid 70s, Genesis came out with a concept album called The Lamb lies down on Broadway. In one of the most brilliant musical segway of the whole genre, our hero Rael, has to wait, in said Waiting Room to see Dr. Dieper, who’ll castrate him, so that Rael can regain his humanity. The piece goes from chaotic sounds, to a very heavy, anxious rythms.
The same sense of anticipation can be felt here.
I’ll bet Scooter equates Dr. Dieper to Fitz…
Fugazi!!! Superb, absolutely superb.
I think the gout’s finally spread up to Cheney’s brain. Threatening the Chinese? Hello? Guess who owns our debt, you asswhistle?
GSD @ 73
Of course, it would have been just as “good” for them if there HAD BEEN another 9/11 – excuse to institute martial law, stop elections, outlaw free speech, and generally grant OMNIPOTENT power to the executive – and find a way to spin blame to the “democrats playing into al Qaeda’s hands.”
Doesn’t matter what happens – they just use everything as confirmation of their ideology and their power.
water tiger @ 84 -
asswhistle… AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHA
Quebecois @ 83
“don’t delay. dock the dick. I watch his countdown timer tick”
Hayduke @
22
The straight edge movement produced some terrific music (Ian MacKaye & Minor Threat), but I preferred to let them keep their “edge” while I only went straight to the music.
Remember WUST hall before they “cleaned” up the area? As fun as the place was, the new 9:30 Club accomodations were worthwhile trade. One of the best/worst and last shows I saw there, before leaving D.C., was Suicidal Tendencies & Black Market Baby as the opening local act.
Definitely agree with you, however. Straight edge was a great idea for those ON stage, not for those of us in the cheap seats.
And Fugazi was in a class by itself.
slainte,
cl
Watertiger is beginning to sound like WGG
Fugazi, man that takes me back. Good times ;)
For local L.A. bands the Eels have always been a fave. Great live. Somehow this early vid seems just melancholy enough for today’s waiting game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_31AAKCZfU
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 52
L O L ! !
Been gettin’ into Rilo Kyley again lately. I saw them on Austin City Limits last month. Beautiful vocals and “It’s a Hit” is one of my current faves.
infoshaman at 11:35 am
Excellent comment, thanks.
spinoza @ 89
I didn’t say “shitwhistle”. That’s . . . crude. ;-)
Not to pick a nit, but
I’m pretty sure it was a musical segue.
Mark @
81
It means nothing until you actually know the verdict. There are a lot of myths about that. In a two-week criminal trial with five counts and a meticulous jury it means very little not to have a verdict after two and a half days.
Thanks very much Attaturk.
I hope they explained to that museum curator on the jury that they need to come up with a verdict this century.
Funny, I just dug up “13 Songs,” last weekend.
***
Fugazi was great, but their fans really took it to the extreme. I went to a party at Brian Baker’s House in D.C. after a Dag Nasty show in the mid-90s… I was wearing an L7 shirt… and several guys kinda cornered me in the kitchen and told me I shouldn’t listen to or support L7 because “they do drugs” and insisted that I should listen to Fugazi and “more positive” bands instead. I looked over at Brian Baker and (I think it was) Jeff Nelson and they were nodding along. I was schocked at them.
It just seemed like such a betrayal–especially since L7, Fugazi, and Bad Religion had played together. I’ve never been to a place where people tell you what to listen to like that. It felt like a cult. Brian nodding along pissed me off the most. I promptly drank the only beer in the fridge just to piss them all off. Weirdest party ever.
Ian’s sister Amanda seemed none too down with L7, either, when I asked her about them once. Pretty disappointing when I accidentally saw an L7 guest list years later and her name was handwritten on there. She must’ve showed up and acted all nice.
***
Sorry to post a downer of a post on here… but I think we all know what it feels like to look up to peers in our scene… only to see “the pedestal’s cracked.” I thought I could learn something from hanging out with some of the iconic artists from the D.C. scene… and I did learn something: sometimes the brotherly support is an act.
I’m not blaming Fugazi… it’s just some of their fans…. I guess people just got carried away with the whole thing to the point where they were trying to prevent others from listening to music by musicians rumored to use drugs?
Has anyone else encountered something similar?
Madness! Madness! Madness!
Mark @ 81
Anal glaucoma* won’t do me any good, my computer is at work.
:(
* Can’t see my ass coming to work .
Bruno @ 78
I thought I did write you back sweetie. And thank you for being a fan and a gentleman Bruno.
Elizabeth de la Vega dropped by to say howdy, end of the previous thread.
GSD @ 73
Hmmmmm…..Of what could he be speaking?
What “controversial things” have kept a band of primarily Saudi Arabian members of al Qua’ada from once again hijacking planes and crashing them into iconic, populated buildings in the United States?
Abu Ghirab? Disavowed torture. We don’t torture.
Secret detention camps? Don’t exist. And we closed them down, anyway.
NSA Spying? Don’t do that anymore. Just ask the Circuit Court here in Cinicnnati.
Gitmo? Nobody’s even been brought to trial. Nothing here. Move along.
The Iraq War? No, dumbass. Didn’t you just hear the speeech in Australia? the American people love that goddam war. Not the least bit controversial.
So what does that leave us? Hmmmm….lessee.
Katrina? Conroversial, all right, but hard to make the case it kept the terrorists away, what with all our National Guard troops sent oversees. What else….?
GOT IT! The hunting accident! That’s what he meant! Those terrrists got word of THAT freakin’ display and said “No freakin’ way we’re going over there while THAT insane bastard is allowed to own a gun! We may be madmen, after all, but we’re not batshit CRAZY!”
Here is Fitz proclaiming his affinity for nudity!
Y’all ready to get fired up?
How about three, with music videos? (If you have to keep it down because you’re at work, access at home later and crank it up – well worth it, especially the first one)
(1) Land of Confusion – Disturbed (video by Todd McFarlane)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KW8DRSvEoQ
(2) John the Revelator – Depeche Mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaB1psXTjS4
(3) MOSH – Eminem (WARNING: Explicit language)
I don’t care for this style of music but I really, REALLY like this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcpJ3LafwbY
Jacqrat @
62
Hey Jacqrat, got you some more Happy Day. This performance is one of my favorite versions.
John Casper @
42
Hey John! ALWAYS great to see you on ANY thread. You are a gentleman and a scholar and I love you, man.
Which leads me to my questions: (1) What is the courtroom betting on how long the jury will take to reach a verdict? (2) How long until we start to entertain the likelihood that the jury is hung?
Infoshaman: As a trial lawyer, I’ve waited on about 100 juries; only one of them hung, and it was a civil case. When you take 14 days to try a case and six and a half to argue it, you are inviting the jury to take its time. If they ever send a note out suggesting difficulty in agreeing, they will be given a strong instruction on the desirability of rethinking positions and moving towards consensus. A hung jury here is a remote possibility. The worst case scenario is a conviction on some counts and a failure to agree on the remaining counts. Scooter had a weak defense to begin with (”I forgot and I was too busy to lie”) and his lawyers let him down on what would have been a tough defense even for the best practitioner. I still predict a verdict late today or mid-day Monday. Only if we are still waiting next Friday would I begin to think that the jury might hang on every count.
Just curious from reading through what I missed on the last thread – is there a male equivalent to the “Birken Bag”?
I find myself checking truthout to see if Jason’s “scoop” on the verdict is up yet.
/snark
Attaturk @ 96
And lets not forget this is not just any old criminal trial, I would guess these jurors know the results of the decision they will make will be historic and will have an incredible effect on what comes next in this season of lies.
Guilty or not guilty, the verdict may not matter nearly as much as the evidence itself, and what it clearly proves to those of us who have wondered all along.
Regardless of how the verdict lands, at least we know the truth so many of us have suspected all along. While it may be only a consolation if the jury acquits or gets hung, at least our suspiscions will be justified.
So as far as I am concerned, we already won, just because the truth got spilled out for all the world to see and hear.
Jacqrat at 11:56 am
much appreciated.
Ed*ard Teller @ 109
The sportscar
Claudia @ 75
too many members
heh
heh heh
(Okay that’s it, I’m losing it – must. leave. computer.)
what is WRONG with Florida?
[not rhetorical, btw]
Fla. Boy, 13, Abducted; Later Found Safe
Donita Sparks @ 102
never trust the internet! hahaha…yeah, we have some email problems but don’t worry… thank you donita… have a great show tomorrow… can’t wait to hear your album! sincerely yours, B.
[Mod Note; Please don’t quote this comment, it will bust the margins. Thank you.]
SilverSister @ 99
Oh my god, that story is hilarious. You poor thing. I would’ve beer bonged that sucker so fast. Fugazi were our friends and we played numerous shows with them. Different aproaches, but mutual respect to my knowledge.
LOL, yeah, he scooped everyone, including this blog and emptywheel.
I second what AJ Greif@108 opines. I also have been involved in somewhere around 100 jury trials, most of them criminal, and I really don’t see a hung jury here-at least not on all counts. If there are any real problems with hanging, there is a decent chance the jury will let the court know this at the end of the day today because they will want to address it before the weekend.
looseheadprop @ 113
The 43″ flatscreen TV.
SilverSister @
99
But intolerant, self-righteous people are what makes the whole scene great!
The looks on their spluttering faces when one upends their quaint moralisms…Stravinsky could have written 5 etudes before tea from that alone.
;>)
NP:
Judgement Night, Onyx and Biohazard
watertiger @ 120
43″? Now THAT’S five years out of date.
SilverSister @ 99
Brian Baker drinks and does drugs now, so it really doesn’t mean too much to me what he said.
My husband (who was still my boyfriend at the time b/c this was some years ago) was carting a few people from a Warped Tour to a party at a friend’s house in our old 1963 Fury III and was pulled over by the cops for going through a yellow light. Brian Baker and a whole bunch of other Warped people were in the car with open containers and Brian says to my husband, “Let me talk to the cop, I used to be Straight Edge and in a Straight Edge band!!!” My husband said, “I think I’ll do the talking, I’m STILL Straight Edge.” and Baker says, “Good idea!”
Subsequently… the cop didn’t notice all the drinks and let my husband go sans ticket.
I had similar experiences with bands and people growing up where they said, if you’re SxE and hang out with people that drink then you’re not really SxE. That ALWAYS pissed me off.
Thankfully the music was good and spoke for itself, regardless of what those people are doing now. I mean, even Gorilla Biscuits is still good music…
You know, today might be your last chance to cop a plea and get a decent deal.
Rayne @
107
Oh yeah. You know I was blasting that one too. My favorite, too. Also there was a version with a Korean girl group wearing nun’s habits that cracked me up. But I am a big mouthed weirdo today, so I spared everyone the pain of a link.
BTW – I am at the courthouse. I think I see Jane in the hallway. Jane, I’m that guy that walked by and gave you a double take… I’m wearing a blue shirt.
bmaz @ 119
A. J. Greif @ 108
I am so glad to hear this. A hung jury is what I fear most.
Originally I thought that a quick jury return was a bad sign for Libby, and the longer they stayed out, the likelier he would walk.
I no longer think that. I am confident that he will be found guilty of at least one count of perjury. Libby is looking at 30 years, and so the jury is trying to be very careful about the other counts.
Absent a pardon, an appeal or a deal, Libby is going inside for a few years. I hope for the last alternative. If a murderer shoots someone, it’s not the gun that should be jailed.
Headline at Yahoo:
“White House opposes limiting US mission in Iraq”
D’oh! Who writes this stuff? And who are they writing it for? Cave people?
Pat_AlexVA @ 126
LOL – why don’t you go up and introduce yourself?
Heh. Too funny. Sorry, ET, but I figure a man would have the answer to this.
Bill Cosby’s “200 MPH” is the quintessential, classic coverage of the man’s version of excessive bling. (Sorry, no YouTube due to copyright.)
If any of you are on the phone with Jane, can you ask her to look to her right and wave?
dab_from_CT @ 130
Yeah, what are you, chicken?
watertiger @ 120
My boats.
Uh, what’s a birken bag?
Pat — she doesn’t bite.
Much.
Go on with you.
everhopeful @ 129
Watch it, or you’ll be in a Geico commercial with a po’d caveman!
If it’s her, she’s on the phone.
Donita Sparks @ 117
Oh my god, that story is hilarious. You poor thing. I would’ve beer bonged that sucker so fast. Fugazi were our friends and we played numerous shows with them. Different aproaches, but mutual respect to my knowledge.
Donita Sparks @ 117
Ha, ha, yeah, I gulped down that Budweiser tallboy and pretty much looked at all of them like they were crazy.
I remained a staunch L7 supporter and definitely supported Fugazi as well, but I always was a little scared wearing my L7 necklace at Fugazi gigs. :)
Pat_AlexVA @ 132
Why don’t you just walk over and say, hi!
JGabriel @ 36
Is being on Sunday talkers and editorials better than being a story that can play out and build over the course of a week? I don’t know about these things. I completely agree that it’s not an average Friday afternoon story, but does anyone remember any similar extraordinary late Friday stories that had a major impact? I hope there are some out there, and if the “increased juror efficiency theory” is correct there should be lots of Friday afternoon verdicts.
One thing about Friday afternoon is that the White House and Cheney get extra time to take cover and spin their response, fire up the wingnut machine and give Fox their talking points, etc. The trial itself shows us a little bit about how that works.
I think a lot of people get to Friday beer thirty and shut down their news and current events consumption until Sunday morning, and the majority waits until Monday to get their interests going again. I would hope that a verdict would transform this syndrome, but I don’t know.
Claudia @
98
707!! You funny – very funny!!!
Pat
It’s looking increasingly likely like I’m going to have to make the haul to DC. I can’t get your email–but can you email me at emptywheel at gmail dot com?
Tithonia (135) –
Women’s leather satchel manufactured under Hermes label, noted for its obscene expense. At one time an extreme statement of fashion and wealth, now passe.
Carried by a woman in Prettyman Courthouse sitting at defense table; said woman a known Republican operative with an unexplained 3″ growth of roots, making use of peroxide hair products obvious and much in need.
everhopeful @
129
That is SO insensitive!!
ok, I had a 1 minute conversation with her. She has to take care of something. But we’re on if anything happens.
Pat_AlexVA @ 138
If she’s on the phone, it’s her. ;)
Fitzmas @ 118
Care to elaborate?
looseheadprop @ 141
Oh! Oh! I know this one! FEAR! Jane can be intimidating. But Pat, I know she’d probably love to meet you. So, suck it up! DEEP BREATH. “You can DOOOO it!“
Rayne @ 144:
LOL! Thanks.
Rayne @ 144
Jean Schmidt is at the Libby trial?
And that’s not a leather purse. It’s her face.
Pat_AlexVA @ 146
Thank you Pat. I’m guessing you blogging from a blackberry, that makes you a mobile blogger. You are allowed to take your PDA up into the courtroom. People were (discretely) doing their email from the courtroom on Tuesday and Wednesday.
You could conceivably both watch live and live blog as fast as your thumbs will allow.
EW – “you have mail”
Winter Storm Watch – in effect for Sat nite into Sun. Includes Washington DC.
If the jury doesn’t come back today with a verdict, I hope court isn’t canceled on Monday. It would be awful waiting even longer.
Emptywheel, if your going back to D.C., keep the weather in mind for your travel plans.
the anti-thesis @ 115
Nothing that more alligators wouldn’t fix
I brought my PC and I’m sitting in the hallway. If anything happens, Jane will set me up. Otherwise, I’ll just sit here like the geek that I am.
Ed*ard Teller @ 109
From what I observe here in NYC, it’s watches for men…….the bigger, the better. (Could make a snarky comment here but will restrain myself.) It’s nauseating to see the ads/prices for them obviously targeted to Wall Street bonus time. The good that the money spent on them could do — and the serious guys pay big bucks at auction for the vintage ones.
It’s kind like Ms. Comstock — the expensive, showiness is all the better if one has it on his/her person.
BTW, this verdict waiting is good for something — am finally folding, putting away the 14 loads of laundry my nerves prompted me to wash. Can’t take any music at the moment though — it’s too stimulating.
Pat_AlexVA @ 156
Is the hallway wifi’d?
David Derbes@128 – The jury is specifically NOT told of the potential punishment for the criminal charges it is sitting in determination of for the exact reason that such a consideration should not be a factor in their determination. Also, althogh everyone always talks about “facing 30 years”, that is really not the case. 30 years could only result if all the sentences were the maximum and were imposed consecutively, i.e. one after the other. In reality, the Federal Sentencing Guidelines would contemplate that the sentences on the various counts in this case be served cuncurrently, i.e. at the same time and the actual period of incarceration that could result would probably max out somewhere around 5 years. Libby’s personal factors would probably militate a slightly lesser sentence (known as a downward departure from guidelines); my guess right around 4 years.
That sounds like a great idea. I wish I could do the same. I’m pent up in my office at work.
Zhiv @ 141:
Yes, but it ruins their weekend. And that’s *always* fun. Especially when George gets that pissy tight-lipped look going on.
I think it depends on the import of the story, and the type of story. The Libby story, if convicted, is literally historic — which lends itself better to the weekend treatment.
Just my opinion, though. Your mileage may vary.
KathieinMN @ 142
From what I know about all the jurors (which is really very little), she might be the most difficult to convince. Curators are taught to look for the *one little thing* that makes something wrong. You could have a Van Gogh painting that looks like Van Gogh, signed Van Gogh, but if that one little speck of white pigment is from the wrong decade, it’s not a Van Gogh.
Hallway is wifi’d. I didn’t ask, I just connected and nobody tossed me out
Feeling stressed about waiting for the verdict? I found writing this letter to be surprisingly therapuetic.
Dear Human Rights Campaign:
I am writing to inform you that I can no longer be a donor to your organization. Your behavior over the past year on a critical issue to me—gay rights—has been abysmal. Your support of anti-gay Senator Joe Lieberman over his pro-equality Democratic challenger Ned Lamont was inexcusable. Furthermore, your decision to fire Lane Hudson, who exposed Republican Congressman Mark Foley as a sexual predator, was equally concerning, particularly considering that one of Foley’s chief enablers, Jeff Trandahl, is still listed on your Board of Directors. To my knowledge, Trandahl has never publicly spoken about his role in this scandal, and his continued presence on your Board raises troubling questions about your organization’s attitudes toward child sex crimes.
Clearly, your organization does not agree with my personal belief in equal rights for gays and lesbians, so I see no benefit in our continued association. In the future, if your organization should adopt a policy of fighting for gay equality, please do not hesitate to recontact me.
yo, Scoots –
you’ve got two choices:
a) sing
b) Sing Sing
yellow snapdragon @ 127
Patience is the key to any jury wait. Crosswords work best: the more dificult (as in The Nation) the better. My one hung jury was in a medical malpractice case. I lost the retrial, won the appeal, and won the “three-trial”. An appeal is pending, which hopefully will be denied. My client can then, finally, receive his verdict. He will have waited 9 1/2 years since the malpractice occurred. Compared to his wait, the two and a half days we’ve waited is a moment in time.
emptywheel @ 144
Yes – I think we’re getting close to cut off time for a verdict today. They really can’t do much after 4:00, can they? I think we all need to mentally prepare ourselves for a verdict sometime next week.
And just think, if we’re disappointed, how disappointed most in the jury probably are. I’m sure they’d like to get on with their lives.
Here’s to Fitz’ post-verdict announcement…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;search=
Pat_AlexVA @ 156
You are NOT a geek. None of you are.
You’re our connection to the action!
Pat — good thing you’ve been in Gabbly this week, your typing speed is primed and ready if you have to hit the media room. ;-)
littleprop here, I’m visiting my mom at work..it’s kind of boring…
I woud just like to ask, no beg you guys to reach a verdict because I have to stay here until you do and mom said when we leave we can go to the mall….
so I really, really want you guys to just make up your minds already about this case.
(I meant that with all due respect, just so you know)
Lone wingnut, hung jury theory gaining traction with each passing hour.
Well, I hope my nervous would hold up. I can type pretty good. I asked for a skeleton posting…
BTW, in my opinion, if the jury came back – they’d go through with the announcement.
(IANAL, just my completely unprofessional opinion.)
Fini at 45:
I like how you wrote, “…you always had a feeling of I Might Be In Danger Here at those shows.”
That’s what I found to be so compelling when I first saw The Jesus Lizard in ‘92 in a nastly little club in Richmond, VA.
Holy cow, something seemed like it could go wrong. (And it did–singer David Yow puked between verses and I booked it for the back of the club!)
Attaturk @
96
I don’t believe that the jury will reach a verdict today because I’m sure the jurors realize that their verdict will be historic. Either way, our country is at a crossroad. Not Guilty leads to more abuse, fewer rights, more dead and wounded soldiers, and fascism. Guilty will be the equivalent of a high speed blowout for this criminal administration and likely will be followed by, at least, Cheney’s indictment, and possibly Bush. A guilty verdict will embolden the dems in Congress, which means more hearings and investigations. Future historians may regard the guilty verdicts in subsequent cases as more important but there won’t be any for them to remember unless Scooter goes down for the five-count.
I’ll bet that the spirits of all of our founding fathers are focused on the jury’s deliberations and I believe that they may well regard the outcome of this trial to be as important as anything they did when they were alive.
If I were a juror, I would realize that the world’s attention will be focused on Judge Walton’s courtroom when the verdict is announced. I’d want to make certain that I reviewed every document in evidence and the testimony of every witness so that no question, no matter how lame, is left unanswered. I think they will find Scooter guilty on all five counts. This will be their moment to stand tall and be heroes. By taking the time to review everything thoroughly, the lamestream media and the Rush Limbaugh’s of the world won’t get anywhere accusing them of acting irresponsibly.
Just put yourselves in their shoes. Wouldn’t you refuse to be hurried into reaching a verdict? I’m not suggesting that any juror has a doubt about Scooter’s guilt at this point. I’m just pointing out that, just like most of us, they will be thorough. After all, due process and the rule of law require jurors to do that and one of the major reasons that our form of government is in its present severe predicament is this criminal administration has refused to follow the rules.
Patience, please. Instead of freaking out, savor the excruciatingly slow pressure build-up and have faith in Fitz and the splendid job that he performed.
bmaz @ 159
I was with you right up until you suggested a downward departure I don’t see Walton doing that.
dab_from_CT @ 167:
I wouldn’t give up hope yet. The jury can work till 5:30. So if we haven’t heard anything by 6, then we’ll have to wait till next week. In the meantime, anything can happen.
Mason @ 176
Hear, hear! And amen.
looseheadprop @ 172
Hi littleprop – we’ve heard a lot of wonderful things about you. You have a very proud mother.
I would expect that either way you’ll be able to go to the mall in an hour or so.
looseheadprop @ 171
Hey, littleprop, welcome to FDL.
We’re not the jury, so we don’t make the decision. They jury is seated in a room deciding things as we speak. Maybe they’ll finish today, maybe not. We just don’t know how far along they are, so we can’t tell if they’re close to finishing or not.
I see shooter’s not just twiddling thumbs awaiting the jury. Seem’s the brave soul flew clear round to t’other side of the world so he could hiss & howl at Pelosi on furrin soil – brave & noble warrior that he be.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..heney-iraq
Too bad for his poll rate-horifics, he never learned not to spit acid into the wind. …careful ya big bozo – put yer eye out doin’ that…
Rayne, my typing is nothing like Emptywheel’s So if anything goes down, you’ll be treated to true dial-up performance from me.
Waiting for the Love Boat
new thread from Jane upstairs.
Someone upthread said…
Maybe this’ll help:
EPU’d (with a couple edits) from a few daze back.
My earlier response:
Yabbut yabbut, FDL just sits there until you explicitly Refresh; that’s the only way you’ll know from here.
What I do is leave the FDL “gabbly” window
open with its sounds turned ON. (Of course, I also leave my speakers ON loud!)
So, in the hopes that “the usual gang” gathers over in GabblyVille during the runup to the verdict, :) my computer will begin to beep. So I won’t miss out — because Gabbly is “push-based” rather than “pull-based” like the web is.
Remember, Gabbly takes some of the heavy load off the FDL servers!
Hint: Use two windows. Put the above URL in one, and this one in the other. Position the windows where you can see both the chat about FDL and the real FDL. Refresh only the REAL FDL window.
Go jury, give us back the truth! All hail Fitz and the entire (((FDL Crew))), additional best loyal healthy vibes to dear admired ((((Jane)))) — and Godspeed to us all.
I took this to mean that Mark was … um … beginning to feel the need to call in “sick” on Monday.
steve ex-expat @ 171
There’s nothing to base that on. Let’s not start jumping at shadows, maybe?
looseheadprop @ 171
Hey there littleprop, nice you meet you.
We could use a distraction–so would you mind telling us what you’re shopping for? Don’t get one of those Balkin purses or Jane will get suspicious.
Or are you just for fun shopping–you’re on holiday this week, huh? Are you going skiing again?
Hi, Littleprop! Your mom has been an essential part of the team. We need her for just a little while longer.
But what are you shopping for?
I want this blazer so bad I can almost taste it.
Lol ,”littleprop” . Thats so cute my eyes are watering.
This one is nice, too.
LHP@176 – I am conflicted on that. First off, my experience is out here in the 9th Circuit, so I’m not sure on the guideline application tendencies in DC. If it comes down to sentencing, Libby did himself a world of good by not testifying. Most classic mitigating factors would also have to be given to Libby, and the fact that he torpedoed a Fed investigation is inherent in the charges. Aggravating would be damage to national security, but I’m not convinced the government would argue that with detail for obvious reasons. So, I say it with absolutely no real conviction, but I would not be surprised if there was a slioght downward departure.
SilverSister @ 174
Those years were a lot of fun for me. I was working in the biggest live bar in Indianapolis from 91-95 and we had a number of those great bands grace our stage where I was the stage manager and booked the nationals. The Jesus Lizard didn’t play our club, but they did play what was then called Deer Creek Music Center and the night of their gig there they came to the bar and partied with their fans while one of our local bands were lighting up the stage. Good times indeed, David Yow was a cool guy and was a lot of fun that night, he even came on stage and said hi to everybody when the band called him up to the mic.
Littleprop, Roosevelt Field is having big sales. You can plan your excursion on the internet and be ready to go in a few hours.
My apologies if this has already been asked and answered but for our legal experts here:
IF (oh no PLEASE no) there is “not guilty” verdict on all counts – what’s next? Will “Sealed vs Sealed” come to the forefront? Do we know it really exists?
and
IF there is new information that comes out in the CIVIL trial, can Libby be brought back in on another charge? That seems to fall very near the line of double jeopardy.
SilverSister @ 175
My friend’s wife had her nose broken by a full can of beer she said Yow hurled at her.
The defence called witnesses that stated that Yow would never throw a full can of beer.
The defence prevailed. Melissa required extensive reconstructive surgery.
Sometimes danger ain’t so much fun.
I got hit in the head by a flying pig-head at a Scraping Foetus Off the Wheel show.
No reconstructive surgery was required, thankfully.
punaise @ 165
There’s an choice ‘c’, but only if he’s a Benny Goodman fan…
Fini at 194
Yep, good years. I’m glad my eyes were opened to the indie rock/alternative scene just in time.
Here’s a classic TJL video.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uu9lUbf5GQ0
Unfortunately, David Yow gets hits with a bottle…. Interesting how David Wm. Sims (my bass idol) just walks past him like he’s seen it happen 100 times before.
SilverSister @ 99
YES.
At the sold-out historic Fox Theatre in Atlanta Georgia, I was wearing a t-shirt from Amnesty International’s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights_Now!_Tour
Human Rights Now tour (I saw the JFK show in Philly). I was there to see my favorite band and had won, through a lottery at Turtle Records, second row center seats. My excitement at being their, the seats, the sold out show, my favorite band were just what you would imagine.
If you’ve been to the Fox theatre, you will realize that my seats put me almost on top of the performers and they made eye contact with us all night whenever they looked down to shield themselves from the house lights.
Between songs, the lead singer made a pitch for a group (I forget which one) that had a legitimate social justice agenda. No question, it was a worthy cause on par with Amnesty International, Drs. w/o borders etc. He then looked right down directly at me and said, “these people don’t just write letters about political prisoners, they actually accomplish things that make the world better” — an obvious, gratuitous and demeaning reference to Amnesty International and to me.
I owned every one of their albums, every avaliable bootleg, this was 1989 and I had recently re-purchased everyone one of their works on CD that I previously purchased as an LP. That was the level of my devotion. And, from the standpoint of philosophical propinquity, I’m sure the lead singer and I agree on almost everything relative to social justice issues. I had also seen them in small clubs before they hit it “big” and had the pleasure of seeing them live many more times as they became more and more famous and appropriately critically acclaimed.
From the standpoint of being almost close enough to touch one of my musical heroes of my late teenage years and early twenties, well, to quote Mr. Robinson, “you’ll excuse me Joel if I don’t shake your hand.”
Holier than thou comes at all ends of the political/philosphical spectrum and I ended up selling a few CDs after that concert. My heavy rotation listening habbits changed quickly because I could not separate the person from the music.
Thousands of hours of listening habits changed over a f###ing T-shirt. What a world!
cl
mack at 197
I’m really sorry to hear about your wife’s injury!
I have a scar under my eyebrow sustained at one of their shows… not from Yow, though… just a stupid stagediver who jumped into a sparse area with his fingers extended. I think his thumb went in my mouth and a finger went in each eye.
Missed a job interview the next day.
TRex @
43
I really miss them.
cl
What? Don’t be stupid. Donita’s never done any drugs in her life and she would NEVER be in a band full of druggies, would she?
Donita?
Speak to me!
TRex @ 198
The only time I saw Mr Thrillwell, the opening ac, Einstrzende Neubauten so thoroughly kicked ass that JG’s posing in front of a four track recorder was a pathetic anti-climax.
Me, too. That first album was kickass.
You’re in Atlanta?
Totally. I thought there was going to be this big band up there making all that NOISE. Instead it was him singing over pre-recorded tracks. The audience was NOT into it and started throwing stuff, which was when he yanked the severed pig-head off the wall and threw it into the crowd…just as the lights went black.
It hit me square in the head and then rolled down my body, leaving a trail of gore. At first, I thought it was my blood, but it wasn’t. Just another piggie.
Arg. 4PM EST. OK, now I am officially WANV (Whinging About No Verdict)…
S.O.S. in MA @ 208
It might be a while, hon. Better pour yourself a drink.
TRex @ 206
Not anymore. Emory 89-92. Used to go the 40 Watt club every chance I had. Little Five Points was my preferred hang-out, however.
This was around the time of the Jody Grind and Deacon Lunchbox. (I still have a book of his poems – and one of his bras).
slainte,
cl
Have we met?! I was a Jody Grind fan when they were still called An Evening With the Garbagemen.
TRex @ 209
Better yet… ‘ere!
:-)
TRex @ 209
B-b-but how can I drink when I’m gasping at straws?? :)
Good advice tho’…
LI native @ 195
Littleprop here, back from playing solitaire on the floor under my mother’s desk. (I won by the way)
TRex: I am shopping for clothes. not just any clothes,I happen to see the new line of spring clothes that target just got in, in the teen section.We had stopped in today on our way back from the courthouse to get a luggage cart ’cause mom’s taking a huge pile of documents to court on Monday.
Since this is non-essential (in my mother’s eyes) shopping–I beg to differ. I personally think shopping is very essential to me–it helps that Target is less expensive than other places where I shop for my cutley outfits. :P
EW:
Mom said you were a good friend of hers…Skiing sucked, badly…Mom is taking me to DC over Easter break since she didn’t come skiing with me last time..By the way I think your screen name thingy is really witty cause it’s a cute little pun on your name. I wish i ad a cool name like that. But I don’t :(
Dr. Bong @ 212
Hey that woiks even better when yer gasping! :)
Caoimhin Laochdha at 201
Thanks for sharing! Yes, the selling off of the CDs….
Most of my experiences with bands/artists has been positive (L7 being the best), with the exception of the Bad Religion party… and Ani DiFranco.
Some friends and I put together an Ani show at our college in ‘95 (the “Not a Pretty Girl”) tour. Her contract specified that no cameras were allowed in, so we posted signs to that effect and made sure no cameras got in if we could help it.
Midway through the show, someone snapped a shot. Ani then asked everyone they didn’t have cameras… now imagine 200 rabid Ani fans angrily turning to point their fingers at me for making them take their cameras to the car. Ani went on to say that that was silly… that of course she would want her fans to take photos of her, why wouldn’t she?
I almost got my a*s kicked at I show I worked hard to put on for months. I gave away her CDs that night… she ruined it for me. How un-punk and disrespectful.
TRex @ 211
It’s possible. Although had we met in Little Five Points, the chances I’d remember are, well, . . .
I left a few handles of Jameson in my wake during those years.
cl
SilverSister @ 202
a friend’s wife
(not mine)
it was writ large in austin some dozen years ago
my friend didn’t help their case with his threats of physical violence
he’s a bass player, and they are often difficult (if you know what i mean)
Q what do you call a bass player who just broke up with heis girlfriend?
A homeless
SilverSister @ 216
Understood. Sad isn’t it.
The flip side is, I was back & off/stage at RFK stadium 11 years ago for one of the very last Dead shows – approximately 4-5 weeks before Jerry died.
In addition to my work that actually pays the bills, I’m also a photographer. I asked the group’s manager if I could take pictures since I had a vantage to point which even the credentialed press were excluded. He looked at me as if to say “why are you even asking, of course you can.”
I was so used to other acts (i.e. ones that could never fill RFK stadium two nights in a row, being complete pricks about it, that it was shocking to hear this guy say “shoot away.”)
Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know . . .
slainte,
cl
What do you call a drummer who just broke up with his girlfriend?
A pedestrian.
I can’t stand Ani DiFranco. I think she’s a neurotic poseur.
TRex @
220
What does a drummer say right before he is kicked out of a band.
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“. . . hey guys, I’ve been writing some songs. . .
looseheadprop @ 172
Hey littleprop!
We’re right there with you–there are probably hundreds (thousands?) of us around the country sitting on the edges of our seats, waiting for this verdict to come in. Unfortunately, we don’t have any influence over the jury, and they aren’t allowed to read FDL (or any other outside source of information about the case) while they’re deliberating, so they don’t know how eagerly we’re waiting for them to get done! (And to be fair, we *do* want them to do a good and thorough job.)
You should drop in more often–we always welcome a fresh point of view. :-)
Enjoy the shopping, when you get there!
mack @ 218
Hey! I’m a bass player!
Now, are bass players really more difficult than anyone else? Maybe because of our instrument’s role? Doing rhythm but treading on guitarist’s territory sometimes?
looseheadprop @ 214
*grins* Tell your mom she needs a Sidekick–then she can check for a verdict even more obsessively!
Target rocks; my daughters & I get a lot of our clothes there too. Of course, the west coast stores all just rearranged their floorplans and shrunk their teen sections WAY down, so their selection isn’t nearly as good as it used to be. :-/
QuentinCompson @
41
I clicked on the link and found a lot of blah, blah, blah for the self-serving “Media Bloggers Association.” I don’t like them folks.
I remember seeing Fugazi at the Hollywood Palladium over a decade ago. They only charged $6 for tickets and they put on the best show I’ve ever seen — and I see shows all the time. Fugazi is ten times what Rage Against The Machine wishes they could be. Heck, Rage IS The Machine with all their corporate backers. That singer from Rage always sounds like Curly from the Three Stooges to me. Gnuck, gnuck, gnuck — gotta give it to the man! Gnuck, gnuck, gnuck — where are my royalties from Warner Bros.?
I saw Ray Davies on his most recent tour. His solo album is quite a joy. It’s great when your heroes don’t let you down as they age.
fugazi…nice…toss that ham in the frying pan.
G’day Donita
Love reading your blog and am equally engrossed in the Anna Nicole saga. Also captivated by the coverage of Britney’s meltdown. Thought you would appreciate this headline that appeared in the paper in Australia yesterday: “Britney’s bald berko brolly bash”.
Have a great gig at Safari Sam’s on Saturday mate. Will be there in spirit! On a recent US trip, I wasn’t checking emails frequently and therefore didn’t see my Donita email update in time. Flew home the day before one of your LA gigs *sigh*.
Love your work!
Michele x