
(This is one of my favorite prints of Honore Daumier, this one of three lawyers talking.)
Waiting for the jury to come back is incredibly difficult. It is even more so when it is for a case that you have just finished trying. So, in the interest of maintaining a level of collegiality and patience among all of us — the folks writing on the site, the folks commenting on the site, the folks reading but not commenting but hitting refresh along with the rest of us…for all of our sakes, frankly…I offer the following bits of humor from around the blogs.
– Kung Fu Monkey's deconstruction of the "comedy" show on Fox is laugh out loud funny in parts — but it is also straight to the point on what is, and is not, humorous. And what is or is not quality comedy writing. (Hint: the rip-off of The Daily Show that Fox is peddling? It falls into the "not" category.)
More revealing is the idea of using "talking points" in a comedy show. This is obviously someone who's never worked a real comedy writer's room. For topical runs, you start with "okay, what happened today," and you look at everything. Everything. This is because comedy has maybe a 10% success rate on the pitch, and that's just for joke-like objects, never mind actual functioning funny jokes. To fill a show with a couple dozen funny jokes, you don't have the time or luxury to stick to talking points. You need to find the funny. Unless you're not worrying about funny — in which case, you get the 1/2 Hour News Hour.
On a deeper level, this is about how you cannot make humor, you find humor. And you find humor in truth. As Tyrone pointed out to me later in the conversation, often Stewart does nothing but play the tape of a politician's actual words, and then do a reaction. A joke only works — although every comic has a theory on this — if there's some underlying bit of truth to it. Either truth unrecognized before now, eliciting surprised laughter in response, or recognized and appreciated, the so-called "sympathy laugh." (see Simpson, Homer: "It's funny because it's true!" which in context is damn near a three-level meta-joke.) This is why jokes about Bush not being bright work — because we've all heard him speak, and he does not come across as a bright man. This is why jokes about Bill Clinton being a horndog work — because Billy-boy's a horndog. You could not do a joke about Bush being, say, an adulterer, even if that were your "talking point." It just wouldn't work, because it doesn't ring true.
And no matter what anyone says, there is absolutely no way at all whatsoever to make the thought of Rush Limbaugh as President remotely funny. In any context. Period.
– Wolcott eviscerates Brit Hume and the Pod in one fell swoop. (Some day, if I am a very, very good girl, I will have a Wolcott-esque sentence in a post. And I will die happy.)
– Digby sends birthday greetings from a President named George. (Oooh! Snap!)
– TBogg. The man is a god of snark. That's all I'm saying.
– Watertiger is too funny. (And don't miss this one either.)
– And Patrick has some hilarious thoughts on the people who bring you the rewriting of history for their own political purposes.
So, what is catching your eye today as we all sit around and wait for the jury to come back with a verdict? Anything amusing? If so, please link it up in the comments. I could use a good laugh today.
Related posts:
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- Pew Poll: Americans Losing Patience with Congress
- Sunday Late Night: Roy Blunt’s Values are Being Challenged
- Pelosi Laughs at House Progressives – You Should, Too
- Late Night: The Wacky World of Wingnut Funny





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Fitz!
Christy, Jane, and Marcy ROCK!!
Christy!
FDL Rocks!!
So, what is catching your eye today …
in RL:
Lunch, that glowing orb in the sky, the snow melting–it was very Currier and Ives in CT-Land this morning
dang. lunch is almost over and I’m already 3 threads behind! FITZ anyway!
OT, but does anyone else think that not replacing the troops’ equipment that is being destroyed in iWaq is being done to provide a long term payout (after aWol, Chenron and Blair all retire) to the defense contractors owned by the Carlyle Group and will also be used as an excuse to hire even more mercenanary private security forces in the meantime?
I enjoyed KO setting the Faux News children to the laugh track from the 1/2 Hour News Hour. Brit Hume is much better with the laugh track.
nothin new on PACER. back to work. see all y’all later tonight.
Jeffress, Comstock in the house.
Here is a good Rolling Stone article on Olbermann for those who haven’t read it yet.
http://www.rollingstone.com/po….._in_news/1
Check out James Fallow’s “Dear Vice President Cheney: Shut Up” in today’s HuffPo http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..41932.html
Jane Hamsher @ 10
hmmm.
Jane Hamsher @
10
For real?
Jane Hamsher @ 10
Maybe something’s happening…
Jane Hamsher @ 10
Oh God, I was just going to cut out to do some errands. What time does the jury go to lunch, or are they having a working lunch? Is there anyway you can tell?
just when I figured I’d get some work done….
Goodness. Looks like I may have arrived just in time.
Jane Hamsher @ 10
Oooooh, something wicked this way comes!
Prolly been reading FDL and as soon as Jane posted they scuttled on over… kinda like the rats moving into the West Village Taco Bell….
mebbe Wells is behind cause he’s removing the cucumber slices from his eyes and using the Visine furiously…
The sun’s out, it isn’t snowing and the temperature is a positive number! wOOt
That has my attention at the moment.
Tell me something I don’t know. From AP:
angie @ 13
TJ @ 14
Attaturk @ 15
. . . but we’re not anxious or anything.
Anyone seen KO’s take on this new show. He does a segment where all he does is play clips of actual Faux news reporting and such(anchors/pundits) and throws in a laugh track on top of it…way funnier than the actual Faux News Daily Show rip off.
Attaturk @
15
Don’t have any reason to think they know anything we don’t.
We got sat TV for the Olympics last year. didn’t get Fox and MSNBC in the basic package. reading this and your Wolcott link makes me SO glad we don’t have to waste time watching those two networks. I long for a day when journalists like Democracy Now’s Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzales and Naomi Klein (where has she gone!?) can get the reporting resources of a Brit Hume or Anderson Cooper or Wolf Blitzer.
uh, dream on, ET…
Jane Hamsher @ 10
A question for attorneys – do counsel for the defense and prosecution receive notice of a verdict in advance of the media and general population?
If yes, this could be a sign.
If not, then Comstock and Jeffress are in the same boat as the rest of us…
Jane Hamsher @ 10
It could be as minor as a juror question, folks. Keep breathing while we wait.
Amb. Wilson, if you’re still around these threads, here’s hoping that justice is served, and that you and your wife are safe.
One of my important errands was to pick up a good bottle of gin & some tonic for the evening celebration or unwinding (whatever the case may be).
I might have to settle for some good beer from the neighborhood convenience store!
Barbara Comstock is just at the court house to change her name to Lying F’ing Wingnut. Jeffress is there acting as her counsel.
*xyz @ 28
We were told it’d be a 15 minute notice for everyone. So they SHOULD be in the same boat as us.
trifecta @ 32
I respect that.
Jane Hamsher @ 10
grief counseling?
at your service, counselor(s).
trifecta @ 32
707
emptywheel @ 29
Keep breathing?
But this way is so much more fun!
Totally silly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;search=
*xyz @
34
Why would she need counsel to do that? Surely, nobody would obect.
emptywheel @ 29
*GASP!*
Pant, pant, pant.
Oh, right. Breathing. In and out. In and out.
Oh, while we are waiting, Dick Cheney just admitted that the world is getting warmer. He denies any knowledge of how it is occuring.
Wow, he now accepts thermometers as scientific. We are making headway at last.
*xyz at 28 — No, the judge issues information on this publicly and on the record. So they will know when we know. There will be counsel on both sides of the case available at all times so that they can be there to deal with jury questions, queries, transcript reading requests, etc., as well as being on scene to contact colleagues in case a verdict is reached. You have to have someone on site from both sides to deal with all of the issues — including legal arguments on jury questions and other matters that may, from time to time, arise during deliberations. The fact that some of the attorneys are there means that they are doing their jobs.
My gut tells me that the verdict comes after lunch. Then again, that might just be food poisoning.
Jane, when the verdict is announced, are you going to live-blog it from the media room or go into the main courtroom to watch it in the flesh?
I would be thrilled if you live-blogged, but if I were in your shoes, I don’t think I could resist going into the courtroom to see it for myself.
trifecta @ 32
….laughing so hard my eyes are Wellsing…
I envision a small, dark, weird file about the Bush/Cheney White House.
It will be directed by David Lynch, and star Dennis Hopper as Shooter, Vern Troyer as Scooter, Gary Busey as Shrub, Phillip Seymour Hoffman as Rove, Jack Nance as Armitage, Mickey Roarke as Novak, Christopher Walken as Ari, Johnny Depp as Scott McLellan, Kyle MacLachlan as Woodward, Laura Dern as Judy, Jon Voight as Russert, Billy Bob Thornton as Matt Cooper, Crispin Glover as Addington, William H. Macy as Andy Card, and James Guckert as Jeff Gannon.
There will be cameos by Bruce Dern, Dean Stockwell, William Shatner, and Bob Saget, among others.
TRex @ 40
Hey, if Judy can do it while they’re calling her on her, um, curiously inconsistent story, then you can do it too.
Prairie Sunshine @
20
ROTFLMAO
[picturing a blonde rat with roots and a red jacket racing along the tile under the stainless steel taco assembly area…]
Well, if it IS indeed a verdict, it can’t possibly be a hung jury, not after only 2 dys…
trifecta @ 41
According to Froomkin, Shooter also ‘expressed pride in having done “some very controversial things” since 9/11 that he said have averted further terrorist attacks within our borders.’
_
right on the money
trifecta @ 41
Umm, you know, Cheney could be relying on anecdotal evidence that the world is warming.
Wonder if Scooter and Shooter came to a mutual conclusion that it’s getting hot in here.
Comstock was on the phone at the Treo detention center when I got here this morning, carring yet another of her 5-years-out-of-style Hermes Birkin bag (somebody tell her not to get into that pricey fashion game if you can’t keep it up — my advice, H&M).
Jeffress having lunch in the cafeteria with another Libby attorney.
Not funny but not unexpected: BarbinMD at Kos has up today: “Walter Reed: Passing the Buck.” Yeah, the noncommissioned officers are to blame. NONcommissioned officers. The commissioned officers are just there to fill in the blocks on the chain-of-command posters displayed at every level.
BobbyG @ 51
What, you mean the catalog of bogus terror plots that were supposedly foiled?
Woodhall Hollow @ 45
Good question, would love to be in the courtroom but I’d probably cry, feel like I owe it to everyone to live blog it.
Jane Hamsher @ 10
Probably trying to beat the Friday afternoon traffic.
Jane Hamsher @ 56
What? Go in the courtroom. This is history.
It won’t take long, we can wait.
Jane Hamsher @ 53
Just to explain what the Treo detention center is, while we’re waiting. You can’t bring camera phones into the court house. So if, like me, your phone has a camera, you have to hand it to the guards, who put it and your drivers license in a little locker for the day (you get a key). This means that people with camera phones have to hang out by these lockers when they get a break, having their conversations right there in the doorway.
What I don’t understand is why Comstock didn’t spend some of that 5 million getting a phone she could bring in with her?
Hey, TRex,
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to experience the strange wrath of Tacitus yesterday evening. Didn’t know much about him, but now I do.
Off to get my arm/shoulder twisted by Torquemama, my PT. I can’t imagine missing the verdict while I’m being asked repeatedly “Does that hurt. Yet?”
I think it only doesn’t ring true because corporate media doesn’t cover it
I believe there is plenty of speculation about rice and others and it surely rings true to me
When Jeffress was getting his beverage, did you see him grasping for straws? I hear he’s good at that.
James Guckert as Jeff Gannon?
I figured it’s be Jeff Gannon as James Guckert.
Jane Hamsher @ 57
Awww Jane. You are a genuine heroine! And a good friend to all of us.
She may have more than one phone.
Scooter in the lunchroom eating cheeseburgers with Wells. Scooter paid. His wife and Comstock are there too. But Scooter was here yesterday as well, don’t think that means anything.
emptywheel @ 60
Do you know how much those fucking Birkin bags cost new? They were like $10,000. And she’s got the 3″ roots from hell. Skillful allocation of resources — not her forte.
Will there be more tears in the courtroom after the verdict? This has been a week for tears in courtrooms. First Wells, then Judge Larry Seidlin and the other Howard Stern (Anna Nicole Smith).
Jane Hamsher @ 66
I feel like I am in the courthouse! Thanks Jane. We are all on pins and needles, so these details help us to cope.
Jane Hamsher @ 67
At $700 an hour, that’s cold.
Ted you pick up the cost of the Burger.
(then you bill Scooter later)
$10,000 handbags and 3 inch roots. Now that is ditzy.
Biodun @ 69
You had to bring up Larry Seidlin. Now I can’t cry, dammit.
Hmm, he’s hanging that close to the courtroom? Interesting.
I’m thinking no verdict until Monday.
Must. Get. Back. To. Work.
McTreason burger, well done please.
-GSD
Jane Hamsher @ 68
10 grand? now i know why i’ve never heard of a “Birkin bag”.
“as Jane is our witness…”
(go to the courtroom. we can wait)
Jane!
You must be in the courtroom when the verdict is delivered. And anyone else from Blogistan, too. You (collectively) have given this story the coverage and the play that it demanded, and which, of course, the twaditional media ignored, or misunderstood, or were too busy doing POTUS’s dirty work for him to pay attention to.
You’ve all fought the good fight, and you deserve to be in the room. Get in there!
punaise @ 76
Agreed, Jane should be in the courtroom. Lord has she earned that right.
selise @ 75
i.e. Jane Birkin, mother of Charlotte Gainsbourgh?
punaise @ 77
Please go to the courtroom, and don’t think twice about it. Please.
for all the grandstanding she’s done, Comstock should be sporting a Coach bag.
Oh-Oh
Malkin with a show on fox?
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117…..4&cs=1
emptywheel @ 29
Thanks Marcy, my face was turning purple…
There has to be some new kind of psychological terms they will come up with to describe our latest form of internet angst, as we all wait purple faced with bated (as in abated) breath.
Fitzfits?
selise (76) — actually, $13,500 Buy-it-Now price on eBay.
Might as well carry around a used car on your arm. The big ones are about the size of emptywheel’s Civic.
JEP @ 83
bates stamped breath
(lawyer joke)
Jane… I’d say head to the courtroom and hear it. We can take a little delay.
egregious @ 58
I second that, GO
maybe third or fourth, heavy traffic today among all these patient waiters, I can’t keep up.
BUT GO!
and Christy- when Peanut is down for a nap JOIN HER!
It is a very sunny Friday afternoon here in DC. If I’m a juror, I’m thinking “I want outta here before it gets dark.” Maybe that’s just a Dad who spent all morning at the pediatrician talking, but I can dream, can’t I?
OK, I am going to take my chances and run out right now to buy my gin, pick up my dry cleaning and etc.
Jane Hamsher @ 26
————
EPU’d (with a couple edits) from a few daze back. (To our longsuffering Mods — Pls pardon the repeats.)
My earlier response:
Yabbut yabbut, FDL just sits there until you explicitly Refresh; that’s the only way you’ll know from here.
What I do is leave the FDL “gabbly” window
open with its sounds turned ON. (Of course, I also leave my speakers ON loud!)
So, in the hopes that “the usual gang” gathers over in GabblyVille during the runup to the verdict, :) my computer will begin to beep. So I won’t miss out — because Gabbly is “push-based” rather than “pull-based” like the web is.
Remember, Gabbly takes some of the heavy load off the FDL servers!
Hint: Use two windows. Put the above URL in one, and this one in the other. Position the windows where you can see both the chat about FDL and the real FDL. Refresh only the REAL FDL window.
Go jury, give us back the truth! All hail Fitz and the entire (((FDL Crew))), additional best loyal healthy vibes to dear admired ((((Jane)))) — and Godspeed to us all.
njr at 87 — Um…I’m at home. So I won’t be going anywhere except to the nearest “refresh” button.
Birkin bag:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birkin_Bag
Never owned one, never will. That kind of money for a bag is obscene.
Ummm, do we need another body at the courthouse this afternoon?
Jeffress, Comstock in da hizouse!
Wait a minute, I totally misread that.
Get thee to the courtroom. You deserve it. We can hold the line.
Scooter paid.
I like the sound of that.
On Wednesday Doghouse Riley explored the feasibility of a Unified Wingnut Theory:
http://doghouseriley.blogspot.com/
I howled. You will too. (I don’t seem to be able to find a way to link to the exact post, but scroll down to Wednesday…)
Slothrop @ 96
“Scooter got pwn3d” sounds even better.
Rayne @ 48
707 Rayne. I’ve eaten in a West Village restaurant. The rats play bocci ball waiting for the restaurant to close.
Froomkin has extended excerpts from an ABC interview with Cheney in Australia. It is truly disturbing and describes a man completely divorced from reality. Everything is going fine in Dick Cheney’s world. Any unpleasant fact is brushed aside. Disaster is just ignored.
I’ve always though that Cheney was deluded and paranoid but at least I thought he had some ability to recognize his lies while cynically making the most of repeating them ad nauseum. After reading this interview, I’m not so sure. I think Cheney and reality have gone bye-bye. There is a kind of maniacal serenity –As if the more everyone else questions his judgment, credibility, and even mental stability, the calmer he gets, the more amused he is by it. I can see him someday playing in his own feces still sublimely certain that anyone who might think this odd is just emboldening the terrorists.
The reason why Bush and Cheney are beginning to acknowledge global warming is that they are working their way up to blaming Bill Clinton, and by extension, Hillary.
Of course Bush did not cause global warming since it began before he took office, but it took him six years to acknowledge the problem, meaning six wasted years doing nothing about it, and most likely eight when he is done. But no, that would mean passing laws that would make his corporate buddies angry, so the best thing is to leave it to the next administration.
As always with Bush, “Fuck the people and the world. I gotta take care of myself and my base.”
BTW, in his latest ranting, Cheney shows himself to be certifiably insane. I am serious.
I agree with others who say if you have the opportunity to witness in the flesh the verdict…please do….take it all in watch for everything, reactions/body language pre and post verdict of all the players/jurors etc etc. Then report back in detail about it. You’d have far more to write about later…not only your reactions and thoughts, but what you see, hear, and witness first hand. You are our eyes and ears for those of us out here in blogland USA that can’t be there. It would be far more interesting to read that perspective from inside the courtroom. Hey we’ve waited this long, I can wait a bit longer to hear back on the verdict. It’s writing about your insights, reactions, and other commentary from inside the courtroom that would be well worth the wait. Plus you deserve it after all you’ve done and been through…might even make up for the fact you didn’t get to see Shooter testify.
GUILTY,GUILTY,GUILTY…C’mon, jury-what are you waitin’ for, Fitzmas?!!? You’ve got things to do, I’ve got things to do…let’s wrap it up already!!!
By all means necessary, get in there and see it first hand!
You have a huge amount of time and energy devoted to this!
Jane Hamsher @ 53
Is it true Comstock is a member of http://www.bagborroworsteal.com/
Slothrop @ 96
That raises yet another interesting question about Libby’s defense fund. Does the money go through Libby, or does it go straight to the law firms (in which case they ought to be buying the burgers)?
Because if it goes through Libby it would look even more like a bribe, paid by Cheney’s friends, to Scooter.
Then again, maybe Libby just bought the burger because he felt bad about ruining Wells’ reputation by micromanaging the case.
Scooter paid for lunch, and will pay later for his crimes.
unsuccessfully resisting the urge to blurt out “bag hag”.
By the way, bag borrow or steal is a purse company where you order used bags along the lines of Netflix.
Jane Hamsher @ 56
In the courtroom. No. Question.
You’ve been our witness to history, Jane. FDL has played an indispensable and thrilling role in this investigation and trial. You’ll regret it if you’re not there in the courtroom when the verdict is read.
It’s appropiate that Wells is eating a Cheeze-burger. Sounds like there was more cheeze in his closing to make the whole state of Wisconsin salivate.
*xyz @ 28
They recieve notice that a verdict has been reached, but they find out what it is in open court , just like everybody else
Cheese and rice, I ain’t gettin’ nothin’ done today!
Comstock wears Birkin.
punaise @ 108
glad I wasn’t the only one
punaise @ 80
Yes. It was designed *for* her, not by her. Birkin actually finds it too bulky and never uses. Don’t ask me why I know this, I’m a guy. I think there was an article in the NYT about the Birkin bags a while ago.
Could be why Comstock is carrying one. She may have seen the Times article and thought they were making a comeback.
(Going on a weak memory of the article here, so take with a grain o’ salt.)
Biodun @ 114
Birkinstock
Biodun @ 107
twolf1 @ 117
that’s sandalous.
*xyz @ 85
IANAL but I do recognize Bates numbers !!
Christy: Was that a Birkin bag in the movie “Love Actually”?
punaise @ 119
I flip-flopped about posting it…
JEP @
83
I think it’s called “labor pains” – and you just don’t know how long that labor is going to last.
aka five figure schlepp bag
I have to be honest, I am personally dissapointed there has been no plea deal
I’d be extremely hesitant to eat a cafeteria cheeseburger if I was in Libby’s shoes. Imagine his being called for a verdict, getting his come-uppance, and that tell-tale trail of cheeseburger as he’s being processed…
Jane, thanks for these last few weeks, I think you should be in that courtroom, and forget us for a few minutes, you deserve this moment.
Love the post. It’s true – topical comedy doesn’t work if there isn’t a ring of truth in it. I still haven’t had the stomach to watch the Half Hour News Hour yet, mainly because I love good comedy and am disgusted with their “stars”.
Naturally, something interesting will happen in the trial in the next hour or two, as I must go stand in line at the Secretary of State office to renew my licence plates. Grrr.
Happy trial watching, everyone!
(routine ziggurat maintenance)
perris @ 125
scoots is a good lil brown(shirt) noser soldier, natch
maybe that’s part of the sealed v sealed scenario?
guess i’m going to try what i’ve seen kids do: walk to work while holding an open laptop.
Cheese-bagger.
-GSD
Jane Birkin: Je t’aime moi non plus! Same goes for Comstock.
Per everyone else, we want/need you in the courtroom. The *ucking AP can’t even screw up a verdict. What matters (and what you do so well) is the posts that follow explaining to us what it was like to be there.
perris @ 125
“Pardon ME?”
_
I’ve been thinking the Wilsons should be the first to hear the verdict(s). But, I ’spose that’s not possible, things being what they are.
Perhaps the bag was a reward for one of tricks.
Hahaha
My dog is on the floor right now chewing on his toenails.
I think my nervous energy has gotten to him.
$10,000 purse? How many people could that feed for a week? Ugh – what a wretched person, indeed.
(Gonna go grab my $15 dollar Target purse and hit the road).
Wall Street votes for Jane in the courtroom. The verdict is the only thing that we can be certain the MSM will report on, so we need Jane’s eyewitness account, albeit slightly delayed. This is history, and Jane has to be there.
Also, what if there is a juror question about Fitzmas? Wouldn’t Jane have to be there anyway?
dreamcatcher at 101 sez
But he did do something — something that was worse than nothing: He undid some existing environmental laws and rolled back enforcement of others.
mc @ 110
Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow… but soon, and for the rest of our lives!! :)
GO. You’ve earned it more than any person I can imagine.
OT but so very telling of today’s America – Vilsack has withdrawn from the presidential race due to money considerations…
Scooter’s defense fund could pay for Barbara’s brand new bag if there’s anything left after Wells stops sobbing.
Oh, Zal Shiller, I mean Zal Khalilzad is apologizing for the arrest of Abdul Aziz Al Hakim’s son.
Not good to arrest the son of one of the most important clerics in Iraq….even if he was just returning from Iran.
I guess we need permission slips.
-GSD
Was it her Birkin bag that got so much press in Martha Stewart’s trial?
Eyewitness, in the courtroom. For a glimpse at a precious moment in contemporary American history. How the worst administration in American history took us to a useless costly war, costly in terms of money and human lives.
the spin we’re in…
Um, ok. George is not an adulterer, and Condi is still saving it for marriage. Got it.
Nice one SOS in MA
Well, the early returns are in. FDL votes overwhelmingly for Jane to appear as usual in the courtroom. Will she accept the draft? Waiting for her response will take the edge off whatever it is that we’ve been waiting for.
Jane, please go into the courtroom. You are the only explanation any of us will have about what happened there when the verdict is read.
We’ll all be there with you in spirit.
-S
Millineryman @
136
Crossed my mind, too, but would you give a Birkin for THAT? Ugh. Perish the thought. I figure it was a political reward, probably something off-the-books or write-off as only Repugs can dream up.
LandOfTheFree @
138
It’s always so disturbing to me how something like the “Scoots Skates Fund” can raise millions upon millions, and there are so many non-profits out there, doing AMAZING tangible work to improve our country, that are struggling to stay afloat. Outside of insiders, who the hell is giving money to Libby, and what the hell is the reasoning?!? This was such a noble man and cause that deserves someone’s support?!? God, what is wrong with these people?!? (that’s rhetorical, btw)
the anti-thesis @ 5
More details about our “favorite” star. Hey, it’s only 9 minutes away. C&I today, Mad [Solar] Max tomorrow…
Just speculating here, but our next president will have to manage the effects of widespread degradation of the electrical infrastructure. We should expect nothing less than a complete disruption of satellite operations, grid overloads, and perhaps spontaneous pipeline combustion. Under the most intense coronal mass ejections, millions of amps will flow through conductive structures with a potential of 6V/km. Cables or pipes longer than a mile or two will become hot enough to melt. Something like the Alaskan pipeline could explode and disgorge its burning contents. Can you imaging the Golden Gate bridge melting into the bay?
I weep for the future.
On the other hand a “guilty” verdict would make me feel alot better now…
Hugh @ 101
Seems quite plausible…
Along with the zombified 30% supporting the Iraq war, Shooter’s already immersed in pools of gore – and lapping it up.
God, what is wrong with these people?!? (that’s rhetorical, btw)
Oh, c’mon, why rhetorical?
this could kill a few hours
not that I want to WAIT a few hours, mind you
I tenth or fifteen the Jane in the court room thing. Would prefer a report later on the mood, and how much Scooter cries.
ReneND @
82
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. This should be a gold-mine.
I suspect Donita will be upstairs shortly. But I also suspect traffic will keep on this thread till the jury…does something. Verdict or go home.
Crazy Horse @ 150
No wait, Wait — I just remembered that three days ago, I posted here that I wanted her in the media room… I swear!!! :)
Not exactly sad about Vilsack quitting. Guess he couldn’t compete with Hillary for all the DLC cash-eesh, huh?
S.O.S. in MA @ 141
Of course, why didn’t I think of it earlier?
Humphrey Bogart plays Fitz, and the luminescent Ingrid Bergman as Jane Hamsher. ;-)
It’s probably pretty late for this, but I could get to the courthouse…
There was a great old cartoon about juries.
Bedraggled looking foreman is talking to the cop in the doorway of the jury room.
He says: “Eleven roast beef on whole wheat, one ham and swiss on rye… eleven french fries, one cole slaw… eleven coffees, one tea….”
stolen from SteveLG at Atrios
Here’s a thought that Jane and Pach can help me with. It seems like Pach mentioned Wells eating in the cafeteria one day during voir dire. But I’m quite certain I never saw them in there the whole time I was there.
Are they back in the cafeteria as a show of strength to the media, or do they just have so little they can do to affect the outcome that they’re better off getting some air by the salad bar.
Rayne @ 153
That’s trick Rayne, sleight of the hand under the table for services rendered.
punaise @ 128
Sorry, I’ll try to keep better count!
JEP @
83
Fitz is a pretty man, isn’t he?
Very kind of you to offer.
It’s certainly something to keep in mind for next week, a way of getting Jane some back-up. My guess is that she would have to come out to give you a spare press pass (which she might not have, or which might not be transferable to just anyone).
And ditto, what the other FirePups have said.
Get your keister in that courtroom when the time comes.
You owe us nothing; we owe YOU an enormous debt, being there and making this continuous eyewitness event happen for us when nobody else could or would, in spite of your own personal needs.
Get in there and bawl your eyes out shamelessly if so moved. Damn, I want to hear the media get one f*cking thing right about this trial, even if it’s about Jane crying at the verdict. And you’ve more than earned it.
What would Arianna do? You know she’d be right there. And you know she’d make Comstock writhe in discomfort if sobbing is what it took.
Besides, we know you’ll be running, screaming towards a laptop like jet fighter as soon as it’s done; it’ll keep that long. Heck, we’re probably going to make the servers burp anyhow, should buy you some time. [Poor RBG. ;-) ]
jeffryw @ 164:
Criminal and his associates. Scooter will be following precedent. Taking his place, channeled by Comstock, in the tradition of criminal history.
Jane Hamsher @
26
Maybe they got called into Judge Walton’s office.
Google News search, saw this headline:
Libby jury returns
NOT a verdict, just “returns”
Argh
I think Wells just likes the beef strokin-off.
(Man, haven’t made a beef stroganoff joke since elementary school. Felt young again there for a second. Must stop now…)
TRex @ 159
Thought you might have some fun with this.
S.O.S. in MA @
160
No wait, Wait — I just remembered that three days ago, I posted here that I wanted her in the media room… I swear!!! :)
vote opens soon, what do lakeside pups do to self admitted flip floppers?
I hope they reach a verdict today. I don’t want to have to wait another weekend!
Pat_AlexVA @ 163
Go. Get there
Rayne at 10:55 am
[[[[[Bullseye]]]]]
Slothrop @
143
Could Ted just keep crying at $700/hr until the fund is empty?
Wow. Marth Stewart: guilty. Li’l Kim: guilty.
ew at 166 — Most likely during trial, they had lunch delivered by someone in one of the lawyer’s offices, because they needed to be in a private room to discuss legal issues and strategy outside the ears of anyone in the media. That is what we always did — you cannot have a conversation with your client privately in a public room — and you don’t want to risk anything said publicly that would allow for piercing the veil of representation during the course of a trial.
But at this stage, all they are doing is sitting around waiting like the rest of us. So you might as well go down to the cafeteria and eat where you can hang out with family and friends at the same time rather than holing up in a room and staring at each other all day long (which is likely what they are doing outside of meal breaks). Especially not after the Jeffress and Wells macho extravaganza on timing during summations. *g*
The Washington Post reports that US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice warned Iran on Thursday that it faced much tougher sanctions if it continued with its plans to develop a uranium-enrichment program. She also said, however, that the US and other members of the UN Security Council were still prepared to sit down and talk with Iran if it suspended its program.
“We have the common goal to encourage Iran back to the bargaining table,” Rice said after a meeting in Berlin with her counterparts from Russia, Germany and the European Union. “The hope is that the sanctions show the Iranians the isolation that they are enduring, that isolation is likely to increase over time and that it is time to take a different course.”
Meanwhile, the Guardian reports that much of the intelligence provided by US spy agencies to the IAEA about Iran’s nuclear program has turned out to be unfounded, according to diplomatic sources in Vienna. Most of the supposed secret weapon sites, which were given to the agency by the CIA and other US intelligence agencies, have turned out to be dead ends when investigatedby IAEA inspectors.
“Most of it has turned out to be incorrect,” said a diplomat at the IAEA with detailed knowledge of the agency’s investigations. “They gave us a paper with a list of sites. [The inspectors] did some follow-up, they went to some military sites, but there was no sign of [banned nuclear] activities.”
“Now [the inspectors] don’t go in blindly. Only if it passes a credibility test.”
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/…..-duts.html
John Casper @ 171
They are transferrable and as long as the Judge is not on the bench She can exit the courtroom with impunity. In fact Pat can go in as a regular member of the public.
Pat, go
JEP @
83
Fitzticipation, Fitzticipaaayaaation is making me wait…it’s keepin me waiiiyayayayaiting…
Ed*ard Teller @
60
Good luck in PT today.
Glad you enjoyed meeting Trevino. He’s a piece of work, isn’t he?
Jane, you have to be in there for the verdict! Who else is gonna do the Snoopy Dance around Babs?!?
From the Cheney ABC interview, Cheney on his relationship with Bush.
Again this reality thing, vastly overrated, huh, Dick? Cheney of course was put in charge of the committee to find a vice-presidential candidate and gosh darn after a lot of real serious deliberation, Cheney decided he was the best candidate. Took a lot of persuading, yeah, right.
pardon my d’oh, but…
THOUGHT OF THE DAY: See, We Can All Just Get Along
Jeff Jarvis advises newspapers trying to adapt…goes on to to provide an example: “We saw that happening with the Libby trial and Firedoglake’s liveblogging of it… “
OT
Greg Sargent has a great piece on Horse’s Mouth about Holy Joe
Claudia @ 178
I keep feeling it’s gonna be next week. I’d like it to be today, in part so that the wingnuts and their MSM waterboys won’t have more time to try to continue to tamper with the jury.
_
the anti-thesis @ 175
No, you’re just picking up a blurb that they returned for another day of deliberation.
http://www.wlos.com/template/i……com.shtml
–And oh, have you heard? It’s Oscar weekend.
–Oscar who?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 185
I wonder if they’ve avoided each other since
Millineryman (167) —
How did that quote go?
“We know what you are, madame; we’re just quibbling about the price.”
vraiment?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 186
Each side had a room on the 6th floor that they used during the trial. Team Fitz had a room off the elevator court. Team libby had room down the hall towards the new annex.
bonkers @
170
That’s why I have so much hope for the juror who’s into “all things pop culture.” If Fitz isn’t from Central Casting, it’s only because Gergory Peck is dead and Denzel Washington was unavailable.
One more random thought: Here’s where two zeitgeist stories intersect… I think we should all don astronaut diapers, especailly you on the scene. Don’t want to miss anything. I once fought DC Friday afternoon traffic for a fed court verdict (Favorable!) and missed the beginning.
Jane Hamsher @ 67
Maybe it’s a knock off. Or a “gift” from the Libby defense slush fund.
Let’s see – $200 for an appointment with a hair colorist or $13K for a purse….hmmmmm
Donita’s waiting for a verdict too… new thread upstairs
I think we’re getting closer to show time, and you can sure tell from the excitement on this thread.
The verdict is going to be a big deal, and obviously a lot of us are going nuts, hoping, yearning, not working, waiting for it to go our way.
But don’t forget everybody that the action is going to be Fitz on the courthouse steps. It may be anticlimactic, but our hero has come through for us at every opportunity thus far…
punaise @ 81
Stone Mountain
Re: Dee @ 42
I did at least appreciate Tom Vilsack’s ability to bring Iowa together fiscally. Besides, I like the idea of a governor running for the president, more than the idea of senator. The experience they get of managing a state seems more apt than participating in the body of congress.
Also, in recent years senators never get elected to be the president.
I would recommend a Hefty Trash Bag for the amount of trash Bab’s been peddling.
Folks, I don’t know how many different ways we can say this:
No references to violence against another person.
No veiled references to violence against another person.
No wishful thinking about what might befall a person that is not legally sanctioned.
The moderators have specific instructions to delete any comment that does not follow these simple rules…including those that quote the offending comment.
Need I say more?
Oh. My. I just had a near-miss with schadenfreude, in regards to Miss 3″ Roots.
How tough is it to get an appointment in a town like DC? Any chance nobody’s taking her calls?
[sigh] Probably not in DC, I know. But in Smalltown USA in flyover country, it could happen.
Biodun @ 195
gore! al gore!
well, here’s hoping…. (and this has nothing to do with artistic merit – it’s entirely political)
Please go to Donita upstairs to read her “confession” about Fitz… *g*
Cheney on his and Bush’s place in history:
dab_from_CT @ 201
I thought about knockoff, her whole look is so — um — not pulled together it might as well be, that is the general effect. But there is a certain mentality that says “buy one big, expensive piece and it’s all anyone will look at, you can let the rest slide” and that is my guess. She’s just been working the same haggared look for the past five plus years easy, those bags are WAY out of style right now. Big tacky overexposed bag of the moment — Fendi Spy bag. Won’t keep people’s eyes off the roots, though.
I did not realize an old movie reference would violate the protocols. I apologize and will not be so careless again. I truly appreciate your restriction in this regard and, in retrospect, see your point. Again, sorry.
I keep thinking about Fitz working part time as a door man. If you’re from NYC you know as door man you see it all. The higher the rent the more you see that you’re not supposed to see. Door men are pretty invisible, really only need to notice them if you want them to hail a cab. What a great vantage point to study human nature. It’s also a way to learn that Birken bags and other accoutrements of wealth are not indicative, one way or the other, of a persons character or decency. See the thing is, I bet Fitz got so good at sizing people up, he’d be a hard guy to fool. If his evidence, along with his instincts tell him Libby perjured himself, believe him. If that isn’t convincing, remember he also happens to be a work horse and is brilliant.
Rayne-199
That’s funny, I’ve never heard that before. I had a hearty laugh, thanks.
You know I just realized if she has 3″ roots from hell and a $10,000 bag (all thought with depreciation who knows what’s it worth), perhaps she should just put the bag over her head and call it a day.
Woke up this morning wondering if I was still dreaming, but I checked with my husband and he heard it too. Here in CT on a cold, brisk morning there was THE most beautiful songbird singing outside our window. I think it’s a harbinger of good things to come, like an early spring and a guilty verdict.
Good laugh: My daughter’s teacher emailed me today to report that she confiscated two Barbie heads on a string from my daughter after she was caught taunting two girls with them. (Jesus Christ on a Cracker, we have raised some hothouse orchids in the burbs. Any little unorthodox thing sends the fragile fifth graders into fits of sobbing.)
Anyway, I made her clean out her toybox last weekend, and the little eccentric artiste (she is actually quite talented) decided to create a photo installation on the theme, “Barbies Gone Bad”. She is going to take mug shots of her Barbies. Some Barbies, the cheap, knockoffs, will be arrested for trademark violations. Others will be arrested for shoplifting fashion accessories and bigamy (I believe Bride Barbie was caught marrying too many Ken Dolls). She was planning to guillotine the Barbies and got a head start (no pun intended) by pulling off the heads and tying a string around them. I can remember doing similar things to my Barbies when I was her age. The teacher thinks she is mentally disturbed. I think she will make a perfect blogger someday. But I had to tell her teacher that we would not be taking any pictures of the actual executions and perhaps we should just create some dismal jail cell diorama for the Barbies to wait out their sentences. (It’s only for us at home, after all. No one else will see this piece of art)
Finally, I had to tell the teacher to remind the delicate students that the Barbie heads are inanimate objects and that they are only dangerous as projectile objects. Tonight, I will tell the kid to tie her shrunken heads to her backpack and leave the suckers in her locker or here sentence on the hothouse flowers’ parental blacklist may be extended.
Ok, I’m not sure that was funny or not but I feel better.
She’s spending everyday in the public eye during her husband’s trial, and she can’t bother to get to a salon for a touch up? Or a drugstore and do it herself?
Maybe this would make sense if I was one of the entitled money people, but I’m not, so it just looks weird.
BobbyG @ 134
a deal would include a flip and throwing cheney under the bus
As hard as I try the “read a book,” “plant a tree,” “walk the dog,” “cruise for jokes” things, my mind is on the crazy right’s possible responses to the rock solid case Fitz presented.
for example I have concluded re Chaney’s implication that Nancy Pelosi is unpatriotic is probably a reasoned act. As he got an angry reaction, he can now claim that there is a “personal issue” between them… one that would cause her to want to rush into otherwise unwarranted impeachment inquiries.
And, during the “Star Spangled Banner” at the Purdue/Iowa women’s basketball game last night I thought of all of you watching and I asked aloud hoping you’d hear me ask, “Did the crazy right get to a juror or ‘does that star-spangled banner yet wave O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?’”
Waiting is hard.
TheOtherWa at 217 — Barbara Comstock is Team Libby’s paid media/PR advisor. Mrs. Libby is a compeltely different person, and is quite lovely — with no roots issue whatsoever. Just FYI.
portia, I like your daughter’s attitude. But it might be better to keep the Barbie heads at home. ;)
Bmaz—great flick. Thanks for understanding.
I decided to tempt fate by leaving the house for an hour and ten minutes to get new glasses and sunglasses.
Didn’t work huh? But at least I got that checked of my loong time guilt list.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 220
Oops. That’s what I get for skimming thru a thread quickly. My apologies to Mrs. Libby if she’s reading here.
I have no problem making fun of Comstock. Thanks, Christy.
Portia #218
It was very funny. Thanks for the story.
Jane Hamsher @ 67
Do you know how much those fucking Birkin bags cost new? They were like $10,000. And she’s got the 3″ roots from hell. Skillful allocation of resources — not her forte.
Maybe she stole it.
TRex @
158
FOX is taking lessons from Vince McMahon and the WWE on how to attract top-flight advertising dollars with classy programming.
(Deleted by author due to redundancy.)
Why we will never leave Iraq while Bush and Cheney are in office:
If Iraq ever was winnable (a debatable proposition in itself), it was irrevocably lost by the end of 2003. With the disbanding of the Iraqi army and the civil administration, the delay in returning sovereignty, the establishment of a weak government, and the formation of political parties reflecting sectarian divisions, Bush and Cheney lost Iraq years ago. What is happening now is a period of extended denial and buck passing until Bush, Cheney, the neocons, and the Republicans can stick the Democrats with the blame.
trifecta @ 41
It helps him explain the cloud of locusts over his his head.
Phoenix Woman @ 229
I think fox is finally giving up any pretense of fair and balanced.
stingray @ 232
And those 4 guy’s on horses in his front yard……
TheOtherWA @ 221
Normally, I would agree that Barbie heads do not belong at school. But I see kids with lots of things hanging from their backpacks: chains, dice, little fuzzy stuffed animals. Nobody makes a fuss about it. Plus, she goes to an afterschool program and kids frequently bring things to play with. so, I don’t see anything wrong with attaching them to a backpack. They just don’t belong in class.
It’s just that schools have lost all sense of humor. Anything that is even the tiniest bit out of the ordinary can get you a visit from the child protection services. Seriously. During a Lifeskills presentation on alcohol in second grade, the kid told the PTA ladies that I forced her once to drink wine. The principal called me and said he was going to call Family Services unless I convinced him she was lying. I didn’t know WTF she was referring to except that once I offered her a sip of my wine at Easter. You’d think we were alcoholics the way he went on about it. (For the record, I only drink on the weekends and only with meals.)
Oh, yes, life in the burbs is a highly entertaining dystopian experience where everyone is watching every little thing you do and checking it for non-conformity.
And my divorced single mother democratic activist lifestyle sticks out like a sore thumb.
Millineryman @
214
I believe that option would depend a lot on two things: 1) how big is her head, and 2) does she keep liquor in the bag?
(BTW, Nefarious Leslie had the quote down way back when we were bashing on Joe Lie-berman.)
Hugh @ 228
It was all gonna be so easy, an overnight crony capitalist paradise.
_
And in Cheney’s own peculiar version of Brokeback Mountain, he just can’t quit the idea that Iraq is all tied up with 911 and al Qaeda.
portia. vz,
My middle finger of solidarity with you points their way.
Been there, done that.
Thank God my kids are almost full grown.
Hugh @ 235
Cheney’s War is about proving himself right. He said in 1991 it would be a quagmire. He was tired of others telling him he made a mistake not going to Baghdad. Now he is proving himself right to those detractors.
TheOtherWA @
217
the handbag and missed hair appointment are references to Barbara Comstock, heads up the Libby defense fundraisers
Libby’s wife is NOT fair game in this blog.
While everyone is waiting for the verdict– which is always horrible, by the way–I’d like to add my two cents to those of so many others and congratulate all of the people at Firedoglake for an amazing accomplishment and public service in covering this trial. I know it’s been fun and exciting, but it has also quite obviously involved a lot of very, very hard work. Thank you all.
Elizabeth de la Vega @ 240
I second this sentiment. FDL did an outstanding job. Just be careful that the MSM doesn’t start to take advantage of your expertise. (Though it’s hard to see how you avoid this, seeing that your are giving out this goodness for free.) If a major newspaper offers you credentials for the Cheney trial, ask them to cough up the bucks for the Cheney House.
Ms. de la Vega, you did a great job on Colbert, and I can’t wait to read your book!
-S
Jane Hamsher @ 92
I can sponsor two open-heart surgeries for what this bag costs.
Elizabeth de la Vega @ 240
Bending heads reply, in appreciation, back at you!
Re Cheney and global warming, it’s really just the same position of the Bush Administration warmed over (so to speak).
The most recent UN report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change released this month begs to differ.
http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM2feb07.pdf
Okay, now I’m leaving work to go home. Please wait 1/2 hour for me Fitz!!
i asked tom petty what he thought. he said:
The waiting is the hardest part
Every day you get one more yard
You take it on faith, you take it to the heart
The waiting is the hardest part
The Anthropocene Era is in full ecologically destructive sway. No rational doubt about it.
_
TheOtherWA @ 224
For those who missed this upthread…
DC is 3 hrs. ahead of me. Going to the bank, snag some groceries to stuff down my throat and BRB.
emptywheel @
166
I’ve seen him there on other days, though not every day I’ve been there, by any means.
BobbyG @ 248
Which is why Cheney has no problem with it. If there is no rational doubt, Cheney just goes ahead and doubts it irrationally. It’s more his style anyway.
TheOtherWA @ 217
Clarification – As much as we might like Scooter’s wife to have 3 inch roots, Ariana said Mrs. Libby has a head of very luxuriant dark hair.
It’s Barbara Comstock, Rethug Jill of all tricks, who has the three inch roots. And the very luxuriant, but dated, handbag.
And oh, some insights from the Terminator:
Thanks. We already have all the dynasties we need: Kennedy, Clinton, Bush.
I am not at all happy this is taking this long
this was a pretty obvious case and for this to be taking so long has to mean there is a hold out.
that means the jury might hang
this is my opinion
perris @ 255
IANAL but my guess is that the jury realizes how important this case is, knows that Cheney might face charges at some point and wants to be extra careful that they don’t make any errors.
Plus, if they are really smart, they won’t convict on Friday afternoon. They’ll wait til Monday when the news cycle is better.
TRex @
158
Gosh, and after the Half-Wit News Hour debut, we were all thinking Fox didn’t know how to do comedy!
The jury is a group effort. They are still trying to get to unanimous about how to use the flip chart, masking tape, post-its, pictures.
Oh, come on. I think the idea of Rush Limbaugh as president is pretty funny. Think Rush Limbaugh, President of FRANCE.
portia.vz @ 257
I agree that length of time & asking for supplies are bad signs. Doubt the jurors are aware that Cheney might be next, or even how important the case is. Those thoughts project the FDL obsession on normal people.
eCAHNomics @
260
But this jury is not “normal people”. They’ve been brought up to speed about the Plame Affair like we have, except that we have had several years to fill in the missing pieces and they had the whole thing explained to them methodically in one month. I think you underestimate the jury. I’ll bet they are systematically going through each jury instruction, making charts and character webs and timelines. Unless there is a plant in this jury, I am confident that they will reach the correct conclusion. And I don’t doubt for a moment that they know EXACTLY what is at stake here.
Don’t worry so much. I’ll eat my keyboard if I’m wrong.
Strategerie @ 242
I’ll second what my friend wrote – you were a delight on Colbert!