No word as yet on anything other than a jury that is still deliberating the fate of I. Lewis Libby in Washington, DC. And so we continue to wait.
Carol Leonnig has an article in today's WaPo regarding the potential backlash that a not guilty verdict could have on the reputation of Patrick Fitzgerald -- or, in the alternative, the lack of impact, depending on who you ask. My favorite part of Carol's piece:
Washington lawyers who have dropped in to watch the case say Fitzgerald's skills were best demonstrated in the tapes played in court of him questioning Libby before a grand jury. Under relentless questioning, Libby explained over nearly an hour that he forgot he learned about Plame from Cheney, then believed he learned it for the first time from NBC's Tim Russert, but recalled that Cheney did not share classified information. Libby's voice increasingly faded in strength, as Fitzgerald made him sound more and more illogical."And so when Tim Russert had this conversation with you, you didn't remember that the vice president told you in June that Wilson's wife works at the CIA," Fitzgerald said, "but when you remembered what you forgot, you remembered that you learned it in June not to be classified."
He paused, then asked incredulously: "As you sit here today, is that your testimony under oath?"
The article itself is a fairly balanced piece. I particularly enjoyed the honest characterization of lawyer/former Senator/teevee personality/Libby pal Fred Thompson as a "a board member of a group raising legal funds for Libby" since that is absolutely true and is an accurate reflection of his personal bias in discussions about the case.
What is a bit odd is that the online editors have topped it with the inflammatory headline "Verdict May Taint Prosecutor" for reasons only they understand. Probably the same reasons that they put in op-eds over the weekend from people with an agenda against accountability for the Administration, but it falls on their consciences as to why they continue to do this. Or on their waning subscription numbers, as the case may be.
Media Matters has an exceptional run-down of the wingnut shill hyperventilation circuit on this. And Larry Johnson hits the nail on the hypocritical head with this post on why some perjury is bad (read: perjury about a bobby jo in the West Wing when a Democrat does it) while other perjury is not even a crime (read: exposing a CIA agent and her entire network working on WMD issues during a time of war because someone dared to criticize the Administration for lying about the reasons for said war, regardless of its impact on classified activities meant to protect each and every one of us in this country and abroad). And, fwiw, I agree with Larry -- perjury, under any circumstances, is a bad thing because attempting to subvert the justice system by lying is simply unacceptable. Period.
But the hypocrisy with which Libby's alleged perjury is attempted to be downplayed by the very right-wing shills who were marching around the Beltway with pitchforks and torches just a few years back? Well, that is just downright irritating -- and incredibly dishonest, both to the public and to themselves.
Which gets me to my point this morning: yesterday, Dana Priest had a very interesting chat on the WaPo regarding national security issues. In the middle of the chat, she was asked a question about the Libby case and the investigation into the leak of Valerie Plame Wilson's name, and had this to say (H/T to allan_in_upstate and LaFourmiRouge for the heads up on this.):
Pauling, N.Y.: Is it possible that Valerie Plame was covert but would not be covered by the IIPA? Why is it that no government official will comment about Ms. Wilson's employment and covered status?Dana Priest: Because she was covert! No, she's covered. If she were not, you could not have this trial in the first place.
And there, with the simplicity of a three sentence response, Dana Priest says what ought to be obvious to any thinking person who has ever worked around anyone who is undercover in any way. The CIA referral would have gone nowhere, very quickly, with the DoJ had Valerie Plame Wilson not been covert. In fact, the referral would never have been made in the first place. But the fact that John Ashcroft, partisan Attorney General that he was, allowed an investigation to be opened -- and followed through on by the FBI for months and months under his supervision, before passing it off to an appointed Special Counsel pretty much says it all in terms of substance as to the reason for a referral in the first place.
The fact that Valerie Plame Wilson and those working with her either as fellow agents, assets, or even innocents who happened to travel with her on what they thought were simply ordinary business trips, but are now connected with the CIA in the minds of external intel agencies in any country in which she and they may have travelled...and it just keeps rippling outward from there...were exposed by the very government that ought to have held their secrets as closely as they possibly could? By their OWN government -- at the highest levels?
The betrayal in this act of vengeance is breathtaking in its scope -- and its stupidity.
But the repercussions of this conduct? Not just of revealing Valerie Plame Wilson and her network, but across the broad spectrum of intelligence agencies and people who work in them over the last six years of Bush Administration pressures, of Dick Cheney demanding intel to fit his warped world view, of the war between the WHIG and the CIA, of all of this -- the repercussions are enormous. The losses that the intelligence community has seen of experienced field officers, of experienced analysts with a commitment to do the job well, has been staggering.
And the cost to our nation's safety as a result of these losses? There is a cost, and one that will not easily be paid back because the years of training and work that go into achieving that level of proficiency in a job which requires a high level of integrity and skill and understanding is not easily won back in a short term. And the fact that political cronies may be doing the recruiting for the very people we so desperately need to fill these jobs -- in an environment of Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld and George Bush's making? You'll have to pardon me if I do not feel comfortable with where this may lead us.
And this is true across the board in a lot of civil service jobs in Washington, DC. I have heard this from countless readers and friends and current and former officials and peons -- to a person -- that there has been a concerted effort to decimate the collective understanding of how to make government work in the public name of efficiency. But privately, it has resulted in the insertion of political cronies at all levels and facets of government service, which has in turn resulted in the insertion of political hackery, cronyism and ideological zeal into decisions as diverse as research grants at the NIH or environmental policy or no-bid contracts that have resulted in vast profit schemes and war profiteering.
All of which has been allowed to go unchecked and unchallenged for far too long by the Republicans who controlled Congress.
This is a time for heroes. I selected the clip of the West Wing above for a very good reason. This is one of my favorite Jed Bartlett moments, and it comes at the end of an emotionally difficult episode -- and truly shows the difference that some uplift and a call to the service of your fellow citizens when the nation most needs you to take action can mean for us as a nation. The actions of one person, in the right place at the right time, can change the course of history.
What if you are that person?
This nation of ours needs heroes, now more than ever. Heroism comes in many forms but, for my money, the biggest hero that any of us can be is to be an active, involved, and attentive person who holds both their governmental representatives and themselves accountable for their community, for their nation, and for our place in the world. Today, stand up and be the hero that your nation needs you to be.
I have had enough of self-dealing, backstabbing, short-term-power-grabbing, don't care about anything other than what's in it for me falseness. This is a time when our nation has substantial problems. And it will take all of us -- pulling together -- to even begin to make a dent. This is a time for true leadership in this nation of ours. But we will not see it, we will continue to get this half-baked, self-dealing idiocy unless and until we all stand up and say "enough!" and demand much better -- for ourselves, for our children's sake, and for this nation of ours.
Today, stand up and be the hero that your nation needs you to be. Let us all stand up together. For America. For ourselves and our children and our children's children. For liberty.
(And yes, I have been reading Langston Hughes famous poem about America again. Why do you ask?)
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A new effort at truthiness:
In fact, “Wikipedia” even has wickedness in its name, doesn’t it?
Why don’t them left-wingers be honest and spell it “Wickepedia”? They’re always tryin’ to sneak up on our right-wing children. They probably figgered out that our kids spell it “wikid.”
Trying to check the Conservapedia entry for Dick Cheney, but the site is apparently running on MS-DOS 3.1 and a 10K hard drive or something.
Meanwhile, here are The_Conservapedia_Commandments (in case you want to post over there).
From something I posted in Pachacutec’s “Fitz!” thread yesterday @ 49:
From Todays WaPo
Sweet stick-poked baby Jesus, I thought the Pugs would at least wait until a verdict is announced.
But, hey, did I call it or what?
(Oh, ok, yes, that was an easy prediction.)
But back on topic: Yes, Christy, this is a time for heroes — among other places, in our discussions with neighbors, at the water cooler, and in preparing for the upcoming elections.
Thanks for your good post.
Cheney moves into the crosshairs
Couldn’t get here fast enough this morning.
Maybe if we get a guilty verdict we can make a concerted effort to start telling people like Leonnig and Babs and all the rest of the wingers to STFU.
here’s something to give us all a little bit of optimizm;
the jury is looking to establish a timeline and graphs
as far as I can see that means they have discarded the memory defense
As others have said, great trial coverage and great continuing analysis of post-trial folks. You’re the best.
Also, I love the video. I get chills everytime I hear that speech. Where are political folks like that?
And this is a time for heroes in exposing the Other Walter Reed. We really must honor those who are working that story.
I ran into the ‘Valerie was not covert’ argument just this morning at Making Light and hit them with ‘if she weren’t covert there wouldn’t even have been an investigation’. And that was the first sentence of the wingnut-type post.
EPU’d from last thread, but on topic:
Biodun @ 222
I have absolutely no concern that this jury will acquit. It’s between a hung jury (on one or more counts) and guilty. If it’s hung, I would be very surprised, if there was more than one juror holding out.
I would prefer that the guilty verdict not come on Friday, the “garbage day” in the news cycle. Give it to us on Monday when the media can feast on it all week long.
perhaps it’s time to remind everyone of Ambassador and Mrs. Wilson’s civil lawsuit? Where has that gone and is it still on the table? That would be a great follow up blog!!!
Many thanks for all you do for getting the truth out there to the “masses”.
Bravo
I admit that I have a hero or two. They blog for Firedoglake. Continuously!
Biodun @ 11
Is it an argument for teaching everyone shorthand? (I’ll testify to notes being unuseful after a while. I wouldn’t want to rely on some of my college class notes, even though they weren’t bad at the time. The context is important to understanding them, and that’s in your head, where it can disappear.)
Interested Observer @ 13
“Take out the Trash Day” is for hiding mid-level but problematic news among the weekend’s higher priorities. Trust me: if the verdict comes in today, it’s not going to disappear in the Trash.
Prof @ 1
“Anti-Christian?” That’s funny, because I refuse to use BCE/CE when I teach (archaeology classes) precisely because there is nothing “common” about the referent date–it’s still the same (erroneous!) date assigned for the birth of Jesus. It’s BC/AD with the Christian serial numbers badly filed off, pretending to be some more universal and objective timekeeping, and I would rather just use BC/AD and be honest about the whole thing.
Got up early. Checked FDL. Have obsessively checked it on and off (mostly on) all morning. Has anyone got a long-range plan for how we’re all going to manage our addiction to this incredible coverage once the verdict is in? Step One: Admit that we are hooked on the Scooter/Shooter trial because it exposes the putrefying core of the Bush administration. Step Two: Admit that we also enjoy watching a great drama unfold. Step Three: Find the vacuum and re-establish a relationship with it. Step Four: Go outside and breathe unbreathed air, even if it’s about to dump more than a foot of snow (in MN). Etc., etc.
O.k. I had an idea…I don’t know how to go about getting the ball rolling but there are many minds better than mine here, so I thought someone else might have better ideas:
I have been really disturbed by the lack of follow up for vets at W.R.. I heard somewhere that 60% of the wounded have head trauma and are too disoriented to keep track of their appointments. What if there were a network of people who each adopted a vet in an advocacy role. Call the patient in the morning, email him or her a weekly schedule and help keep track of meds etc. One wouldn’t necessarily have to be local to do it.
Anyway, it’s a thought.
ooohh, we luvs our ReddHedd when she’s gotta head-a steam! You go gurlll! ;->
michael @ 14
Oh, it’s still there, in discovery and preparation. It likely played a role in the way the defense handled this case. For Team Libby and the White House, the civil suit is a nightmare waiting to happen.
One verdict at a time, folks!
We do need heros, not media created, self-indulgent personalities, celebutants or otherwise shallow, stupid people who offer nothing, but have a name or a hair style to coast on.
From wiki, on heroes:
My bold. The wiki is speaking about you here, Christy. *g*
Bustednuckles @ 6
To be fair, Leonnig has struck me as pretty even-handed in her coverage. I wouldn’t tar her with the sins of WaPo in general.
contrast w/
whoa — a perfectly-turned post — solid,
damning and level in tone and timbre. . .
i agree. heros are in
short supply, and we all
need to stand up — stand
up [assuming, arguendo, scooter
is convicted later today], and
ask that the sitting vice president
be brought before a new grand jury, and
quizzed as to what (according to scooter)
the cocking of his head, to one side,
when scooter first told him he thought
he had learned of plame’s status
from russert — meant.
was cheney indicating he would go along
with this ruse? or, was it cheney who act-
ually formulated the ruse, and the
ever-loyal scooter followed it directly into
the teeth of a five count felony trial?
as nicholas kristof wrote yesterday,
we — the american people, whose sons
and daughters are dying in iraq — are
entitled to know. . .
so — let us begin asking for
the vice president’s indictment.
This may sound dumb, but isn’t Dana Priest a guy, or am I confusing him/her with another reporter Dana?
Prof @
2
I tried too, but gave up. Apparently they don’t feed their hamsters superchow like they do at the Lake.
Either that or they got’em all harnessed up backward & upsidedown. *g*
Interested Observer @
13
I totally agree. I hope someone in the jury room knows that.
Millineryman @ 23
… or a total lack thereof :)
Thanks Christy and all the gang at FDL.
This place is inhabited by heros, all. I LOVED the West Wing and have the entire series on DVD (After I had taped each and every episode as they were shown). Any good dem candidate in their right mind would have grabbed Aaron Sorkin as their #1 speech writer long ago.
Listening to Joe Conason on Seder this morning gives us so much to worry and think about in terms of the direction our country is headed if, and that is a big IF, we don’t do something about it. And it is WE who will have to do something about it. As Molly said, We are the deciders. It is our voice, individual and collective that must be raised to tell the truth to everyone wherever and whenever we can. Two quotes that I use a lot:
Gnome de Plume @
28
she’s a lady and mebbe you’re thinking of Dana Milbank.
Millineryman @ 23:
The wiki resonates with your comment:
JGabrial @ 8:28
I was just grabbing names. Pick another one and insert there. The combinations seem limitless.
Gnome de Plume @ 28
Dana Priest - female
Dana Milbank - male
Angie, you are right - it is Dana Milbank I am thinking of - the one with the Elmer Fudd hat. Thanks.
after learning about victoria toensing’s article here at FDL a few days ago - i read it & then wrote to the 30 people who often look to me for deeper insights on news stories & told them i would no longer be using the wapo as a msm source.
then i forwarded the email to the editors of the wapo & added that despite being a ny resident, i’ve looked to their paper for 20yrs as my back-up msm source, (after the nyt), but as a result of publishing factual innacuracies in toensing’s piece, i was switching to the l.a. times. (some fine reporters there)
thanks christy.
there’s one thought i’d like to add… heros don’t have be saints. last night i mentioned gandhi and mlk (personal over-the-top type heros of mine), but maybe someone like oskar shindler is a better example. as i understand it, he was a real slimeball - cheated on his wife, and in buisness. but eventually he recognized that he was confronted with a stark choice - he chose to risk his life and lose all his $ inorder to save the lives of hundreds of people.
most of life’s choices aren’t some big moment with an inspiring movie soundtrack. everyday we’re confronted with all of life’s little choices. the trick is somehow to recognize them and choose wisely with courage and honor.
some people seem capable of doing that… and they inspire me to keep trying.
Express, the free daily newsrag they hand out at subway stations here in DC, has a poll every day. Yesterday’s question: “Is ‘Scooter’ Libby guilty of lying in the CIA leak case?” Results today:
No: 51%
Yes: 49%
Some comments here:
http://readexpress.com/pollcen.....2007-02-22
Keep in mind that DC subway is full of lobbyists and staffers. Also, the public (and the news) is confused because they still don’t distinguish between IIPA and perjury about IIPA. Those conservatives who do understand the perjury are spouting the usual talking points: witch hunt, lalala I can’t hear the liberals, Clinton lied too etc. Unthinking pubs like that probably wouldn’t ask for post-it notes. :-)
Shopgirlove @ 20
A friend of mine is a volunteer for Soldier’s Angels. They don’t appear to work with wounded vets currently, but they have a network for connecting volunteers with soldiers, so it might be an area they’d consider expanding into if you wanted to contact them. Y’know, build on existing organizations rather than starting from scratch.
c’mon folks — let’s accept that
justice doesn’t — shouldn’t — be
concerned with the news cycle. . .
it may take a bit, but in the main,
the process works — the jury will get
it right — and the news cycle will not
matter for a tinker’s damn — at least not to me.
let’s accept the verdict when it comes.
just my $0.02.
The Supreme Court of Canada has just ruled that Security Certificates under which suspected terrorists can be held indefinitely and with ‘evidence’ against them kept secret from everyone including themselves and their lawyers, is unconstitutional. Two men have been held in Canada for the past 5 years and one for 7 years. The court put the ruling ‘on hold’ (my interpretation) for a year while the gov’t is to redraft the legislation.
This is my first posting. I am so impressed and happy about the work done here and to know there are others who share my views and values. Thank you very much.
I agree with JohnCasper @ 12. A “Not guilty” verdict does not seem a real possibility. It’s between “guilty” and a “hung jury”, depending on the number of wingnuts on the jury.
EPU’d (with a couple edits) from a few daze back. (To our longsuffering Mods — Pls pardon the repeats during possible jury-return threads.)
My earlier response:
Yabbut yabbut, FDL just sits there until you explicitly Refresh; that’s the only way you’ll know from here.
What I do is leave the FDL “gabbly” window open with its sounds turned ON. (Of course, I also leave my speakers ON loud!)So, in the hopes that “the usual gang” gathers over in GabblyVille during the runup to the verdict, :) my computer will begin to beep. So I won’t miss out — because Gabbly is “push-based” rather than “pull-based” like the web is.
Remember, Gabbly takes some of the heavy load off the FDL servers!
Hint: Use two windows. Put the above URL in one, and this one in the other. Position the windows where you can see both the chat about FDL and the real FDL. Refresh only the REAL FDL window.
Go jury, give us back the truth! All hail Fitz and the entire (((FDL Crew))), additional best loyal healthy vibes to dear admired ((((Jane)))) — and Godspeed to us all.Terrific post, Christy. Now is the time that we need leaders, and every one of us can be leaders… in our neighborhoods and in our cities, by meeting our neighbors, writing to our newspapers, calling and demanding action from our representatives in Congress.
I’m really hoping that guilty verdicts will be delivered - it will help people to realize that the Bush/Cheney cabal does not always win. No matter what the verdict, we have to keep pressing for the truth to be revealed, we have to keep demanding accountability from our government. We have to convince the people around us that speaking out and demanding better is our civic responsibility.
Average Joes who are not politically active are more interested in politics than ever. Many avid Republicans are disgusted with Bush & Cheney and the Republican party that has enabled this admin. We need to take every opportunity to invite those people into the fold of becoming activists for change.
I hope everyone here will find some time this weekend to talk with people about politics, encouraging one or two friends to become more politically active. Listen to what concerns them, and inspire them to take a small step - perhaps calling a Senator or writing a letter to the editor about their issue. A small action taken by thousands of us can spark change. It can inspire others to speak out. It can make a difference.
___________
p.s. my guess is that we won’t get verdicts today - I don’t think the jury will return their verdict until Tuesday late morning.
photo of Priest
photo of Milbank
I know that there is nothing that we can write or say that will affect Cheney or the Chimp, but does anyone see signs - as in the Kristoff piece - that our writing and outrage, which seems to have been turned up several notches, is “emboldening” Congress to be more responsible and aggressive? Are they seeing/feeling a tide turn in the Beltway?
barbara @ 19
I lurked, I posted, I am addicted - - I don’t want to quit the reals news & real views fix I get! I want more!!
Redshift @ 40
See! I knew someone here would have a resource! Firedogs amaze me-thank you! I’m going to check them out.
Powerful post, Christy! It’ll be linked elsewhere, so “topy” cop edits noted:
both to the public and
thethemselves.effeciency. Did you mean efficiency?
Unless there’s a hold out, in my experience jury’s deliberating on a Friday are motivated to go home and not have to come back the following week. I think we’ll get a verdict this afternoon.
Interested Observer @ 13
Ah, but then I have to drive to DC 10 hours from MI with the MilleniaLab to pick up “camp out at the courthouse” duty from Jane.
It sounds a lot more relaxing to get the verdict today. I’ve got to drive to Lansing tomorrow–isn’t that enough?
nolo @
41
Considering how effective this administration has been at keeping a lid on negative stories by letting them out on Friday, I think you are underestimating the danger.
LandOfTheFree @ 45 !! Nice 2 C U back!
CapeBretoner and Canada, we thank you for a little piece of Sanity. When Canada gets all weird and follows the US I think the same thing that is often said of Mexico - Pobre Mexico, tan lejos de Dios y tan cerca de los Estados Unidos. (Poor Mexico, so far from God and so close to the United States.)
neokneme at 15 — Thanks much. I needed that this morning. :)
emptywheel @ 52
Somehow I don’t think a guilty verdict would get lost in the Friday News Cycle. It will still be a huge story on Sunday and Monday…
Though perhaps Patrick Fitzgerald will hold back from making a statement until Monday, which will certainly get a lot of coverage.
TJ @ 53
Yes, but keep in mind that the verdict is just the beginning of sentencing, deal negotiations, etc. Even if the verdict comes out today, the news story will continue into Monday.
Checking in, in the media room at the courthouse, nothing happening. Outside, however, I’m seeing something I haven’t seen before — photographers staking out all the parking entrances. Lots of media circus equipment. I doubt anyone knows any more than we do, but everyone wants to be prepared, not only for the verdict but Fitzgerald’s statements on the courthouse steps immediately after.
Have I mentioned recently how great it is to be here?
Regardless of the Libby verdict, here is what we now know:
–The Vice-President authorized a leak of the name of a covert agent for blatently political purposes. If that isn’t criminal, and that is yet to be determined, it should be.
–The President alleges but does not prove a declassification of a National Intelligence Estimate, a declassification without documentation and known to only himself the VP and the COF of the VP—NOT his own COS, the director of the CIA, NSC or any Cabinet member. This may well have been illegal and is certainly improper.
–Karl Rove leaked, Scooter Libby leaked, the Press Secretary leaked, the assistant Director of the NSC leaked and Rove and Libby made false statements about whether they had leaked.
–The White House’s assurances that there were no leakers or that leakers would be punished were disingenuous and insincere ate best.
–The WH routinely used the press, especially Meet the Press and the NYT, as an “echo chamber” to justify the case for war.
–The reaction to hearing that there may be an alternate interpretation of intelligence by Ambassador Wilson was not welcomed (as was Doug Feith’s for example), but was attacked.
That’s just a little for starters. These points will be drowned out in the initial days by the verdict, but they must reemerge and be pursued.
When it comes to heroes, maybe it is time for someone to step into the breach in Connecticut.
1) what are the provisions for Senator recall there?
2) what would it take to get the movement started?
Redshift @ 58
From your lips to God’s ear…
Dictionary.com has this usage note on the term hero:
WashPo even gets a shoutout.
oh my! emptywheels a spinnin in the snow!
watch for black ice and, remember, the dog can not be in the driver’s lap or one of you will get a ticket.
Jane Hamsher @ 59
Doesn’t sound like a Friday News Garbagedump.
More like fodder for Sunday AM.
Have I mentioned how great it has been to have (all) you there?
^_^
Jane Hamsher @ 59
I think they are preparing for one of two stories — the verdict or “the jury’s gone home for the weekend.” Either way, they’ve got to be there to cover whichever one emerges.
Jane Hamsher @ 59
Are you running back and forth to play with the pupsters?
dan robinson @ 61
1 - None - can’t be done.
2 - see #1
I have to agree with Dana Priest on the fact that Plame was covert. The best that Toensing (or anyone else) can come up with to say that she was NOT covert was that the IIPA defines a covert officer as someone who has worked overseas in the last five years, and Plame has lived in the US (Toensing says) for that entire time, so she couldn’t be covert. She’s being extremely disingenuous, I think. If you live in the US, but you make occasional trips overseas for business, then I think most people would say that you’ve worked overseas. And if Plame had never left the country in the five years prior to Novak’s column, I suspect that Bush and Cheney would have released the names of EVERYONE who’s come in or out of the country in that timeframe, just to show that Plame’s name wasn’t there.
No, I think it’s more likely that she HAS travelled overseas as a covert CIA expert in WMD proliferation. Her cover? The ditzy blond wife of a former US Ambassador investigating WMD. (”Sorry about the wife. She’s a bit flighty, you know, and she just LOVES that new digital camera of hers. She must not have seen that ‘Restricted Area’ sign.”)
not to be pendantic here, but
do you really think, for one minute,
that a conviction of any felony
ex rel. scooter libby — for conduct while
he was the chief of staff for the vice
president of the united states, will be
downplayed in the m.s.m?
i, for one, am not concerned.
your mileage may vary.
Jane Hamsher @
60
This nutty little trial that nobody cares about, LOL!
Have we mentioned sufficiently today just how grateful we all are for all your work on this?
_
Christy mentioned Fred Thompson in the WaPo article. Right after that there are comments by Mary Jo White:
Fitzgerald will be loved or hated no matter which way the verdict goes. But having read the blogging here over the last few weeks I would say he did is best and that is all we can ask of anyone. He has had to deal with people who did not want the truth out there.
I loves me some reddhead…
8~}
Jane Hamsher @ 59
Argh, thta makes me definitely want to come down if the verdict doesn’t come in today.
Dan Robinson at 62: I have been wondering about this in an abstract way, but if your idea is practical, it’s brilliant. Lots of wise folks here who can comment on the possibility.
raven @
68
Puppies are fine this morning. Looking forward to the drive to CT tonight.
nolo @ 70
Considering we already have comments in MSM saying that it doesn’t count because it’s just lying?
There is a community that takes this trial very seriously. Then there is the whole rest of the country.
Christy Hardin Smith @
57
Then consider it seconded. Christy, Jane, Marcy — heroes, all, for the amazing amount of work, insights, knowledge, experience, perseverance, and patriotism diplayed in this effort.
Thank you.
Powerful writing
Yet another reason why Hillary shouldn’t be president.
Re-elect Gore ‘08 (you can get the button from Buzzflash)
Jane Hamsher @ 60
Have I mentioned recently how grateful I am that you are?
dan robinson @ 61
It’s been repeatedly said on earlier threads that there are no provisions in CT.
Maybe a class action civil suit for fraud?
Gnome de Plume @
28
check Dana Millbank against Dana Priest
she wins, hands down… and heads up
in my opinion
There are plenty of heros in the blogosphere. Unfortunatly it doesn’t translate into heroism in our political “leadership”. There are all too few political leaders who aren’t afraid of suffering the slings and arrows of wingnuttia. They need to get rid of the risk adverse advisors and stand up for what they know to be necessary.
Frank Probst @ 69
If Plame had not been covert, I’m sure Libby’s defense would have jumped all over it. (Even if a grand jury was improperly convened to deal with a non-criminal act, it in no way alters the question of whether Libby LIED to that grand jury…but it would have been the best possible distraction for the defense.)
Thanks for checking in Jane. I know my universe is in good hands. I must go out and tend to my outdoor critters. With global warming, spring comes earlier and earlier here in South Texas. My koi are waking up, thinking that I should clean their ponds abit and give them some food. I’ll check back for news later.
Carol’s responding to a general rumble that Patrick Fitzgerald with a reputation for being non-partisan, has turned partisan by bringing this case to trial - particularly the limited case of lying to the Grand Jury. They interpret his passion in his closing argument as partisan as well.
What the hell is partisan about the truth? He was very clear in announcing the indictment and in his closing argument. His investigation could not get to the truth because the people, at least one of the key people, Scooter Libby, wouldn’t tell the truth. In his investigation, he ran up against roadblock after roadblock with reporters who didn’t want to talk. He hacked away at them, sending one of them to prison, to get their testimony. When an Administration Official that was central to the case lied repeatedly, Fitzgerald charged him with lying. What’s partisan about the guy doing his job contientiously?
I’m partisan. Christy Hardin Smith is partisan. Nancy Pelosi is partisan. We partisan types would’ve been glad if he’d charged the entire Executive Branch of the government with high treason, but he’s not that kind of guy. Patrick Fitzgerald is a Federal Prosecutor with an investigation handed to him by the Justice Department. Sure, my partisan self hopes he wins with Scooter Libby like he did with Judith Miller, Matt Cooper, Tim Russert, etc. Because there’s a truth that still needs finding.
Fitzgerald’s got a job to do…
movie version:
fitz = gregory peck
valerie plame = kim novak
joe wilson = william holden
jane = nicole kidman
marcy = barbara hershey
swopa = jeff goldblum
janes dogs = muppets
arianna = meryl streep
christy = susan sarandon
scooter = ?
judy miller = judy davis
tim russert = mr potato head
squirrel hiller @ 65
When I first read this, my eyes saw “the dog can not be in the driver’s seat“. *g*
emptywheel @
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