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People around here know me. They know I've never been entirely comfortable with the shouts of "Fitz!" as a community cheer in our comment section. My belief is we should not wait for the courts to do the work of politics: it's not their purpose. Moreover, looking for a hero on a white horse makes spectators of us all, when instead I've always been intensely focused on inspiring people to become active, to take their own power back, so together we can change the direction of the country in a sustainable way.
But there's no way to have seen live, in person, the day of closing statements without coming out of the room thinking, "Fitz!". . . whether in awe, impressed neutrality or in abject horror and foreboding, depending on your view of the case.
Before I dig into my shrink's eye view of what happened in the courtroom during closing statements, let me refer you quickly to two excellent pieces on which this post builds: this one by emptywheel and this other by Sidney Blumenthal, who also watched it all go down sitting beside me and Jane and Christy.
The day began with the buzz of anticipation: since the trial began, I haven't seen the courtroom so crowded. The federal marshalls at the courthouse, who have to deal with the crowds, seemed to me a little fatalistic, not to say annoyed, by all the early morning hubbub. I don't blame them.
Once court came to order, it was clear Judge Walton, who still hasn't quite overcome his nagging cold, was all business. He was clearly intent on getting all the closing arguments done in one day, only reluctantly granting both sides an additional fifteen minutes as a supplement to their original three hours to address a matter of the case I didn't catch in my notes. It really didn't matter the immediate precipitant: both sides used their extra fifteen minutes to do just as they wanted, which is not to say both sides deployed the extra time wisely.
As emptywheel described, Peter Zeidenberg was up first for the government. They saved Fitz to bat cleanup at the end of the day, playing to his particular strength and comfort in speaking extemporaneously and in rebuttal. Since you don't know exactly what the other side will argue in closing, preparation for rebuttal involves not so much the methodical presentation of your key points and overarching story of the case, but rather requires a kind of adaptive fluidity, based on a deep and thorough understanding of all the elements of the case. Heh. They picked the right guy.
Zeidenberg is with the Public Integrity division of Justice, and he looks every bit the government attorney. He's not flashy. He's not presumptious or preening. He is, however, clear, competent and concise, and his presentation of the core argument of the government's case was well done (side note: the government's argument was much better supported by its visuals, especially the recurring wheel of spokes and arrows depicting the outing of Valerie Plame, with Libby in the middle. The defense went bullet point crazy, jamming too much content into the visuals, and should have read this before assembling its slides).
Perhaps because Zeidenberg lacks the star power or charisma of a Fitz, he was able to get under Wells' skin quite effectively, throwing the defense off its game and off its use of time. Wells felt the need to answer that pissant Zeidenberg and ended up losing time and focus, never to recover.
Wells got up and, as described elswhere, spent the first twenty minutes of his opening trying to rehabilitate his own credibility with the jury after Zeidenberg had pointed out the great big gaps in the defense case based on what had been promised during opening statements (Rove! Rove! Scapegoat!). Wells ran over his scheduled hour and ate up the additional fifteen minutes granted by the judge first thing in the morning, and you could see Jeffress was not happy. I noted early on Jeffress often has a kind of impish jocularity with a William H. Macy face. All that was gone. Wells made a clumsy joke about taking Jeffress' time in front of the jury, prompting Jeffress dutifully to fake a laugh. Eeep!
This is probably as good a place as any to note that, of the three big attorneys in the case – Fitzgerald, Wells and Jeffress – Fiztgerald was the funniest, at least in front of the jury. I don't mean that I found him to be funniest, though in fact I did. I mean the jury got the most laughs from him, with his snarky asides and notes of incredulous irony. I'm simply making a courtroom observation here, and as a presenter myself, I know how important humor is when attempting to speak persuasively in front of an audience. Thought I should mention it.
Jeffress got his revenge, though. He had been allotted one hour for his portion of the defense's closing arguments: he took an hour and a quarter. Wells was positively fuming.
As the one hour mark approached during Jeffress' argument, Ted Wells moved his chair a bit away from the defense table, his body poised to spring unencumbered from his repose to take his place back at center stage. . . and there he waited, energy coiled, tight, immoble. Co-counsel Cline glanced sidelong at the clock at the back of the courtroom. Junior counsel attorneys dotted about the defense table expectantly eyed Wells, fully aware of his smoldering ire, maybe familiar with his erupting volcano passion from personal experience. But there Ted sat. . . and sat. . . and sat. Jeffress finally seemed to be winding to his close, and Ted half ascended from his chair, only to settle back again: false start. Once Jeffress had matched Wells on his extra fifteen minutes with an extra quarter hour of his own, he closed his argument and sat back down. Oy.
Wells had less than an hour to wind up, and he was already behind, racing through his powerpoint slides, skipping over some, explaining repeatedly to the jury, "I don't have time for this now, but. . ." and assigning them "homework" to review by way of specific exhibits during jury deliberations.
Thoughout the day so far, the jury had been respectfully attentive, often taking notes, though predictably they sagged a little just after lunch. Every audience does: it happens at seminars in the corporate world, too. Par for the course, it's true, but the Wells v. Jeffress show clearly wasn't helping matters, because their closing statements, in my view, suffered for their distractions.
So far through the day, Wells had performed as I had expected, as the angry, passionate, human fog machine, insinuating and deflecting his way through evidence, repeating over and over, as if to make it somehow sensible, that only an "innnocent man" would try to clear his name by asking for an exonerating statement from the White House press secretary, in the same way Rove had been publicly "cleared." Weird. I hadn't even been surprised by his falling off message following Zeidenberg's needling, given his palpably tumescent pride. But the net result, as he rushed through his presentation, gave the appearance of distraction and disorganization, at least to my trained professional presenter's eye.
Jeffress, however, was similarly less polished than I had expected him to be, based on his previous work in the trial. Easily, in my view, Jeffress had been the more likable and capable trial presence and cross examiner for the defense, and though I thought he had done a good job with his closing argument, particularly on the substance regarding Cooper, he nevertheless seemed less polished or organized than I had expected.
Wells, the reprise, was a blurry mess of repetitive rhetoric and hastily considered slides. I got bored. I found myself trying to stay awake, replaying songs from my Ipod, note for note, in my head, just to stay alert. Chris Cornell. Led Zeppelin. Celia Cruz (I know: don't say it). As time was running out for Big Ted, I picked up a bit in anticipation, and then he did it.
The Cry.
I don't know what to say about it that has not already been said elsewhere. I can only confirm that it came across as contrived, bizarre, abrupt, as if he found himself at the very end of his time, reminded himself he had to do the crying shtick, and threw it out there almost as an afterthought, half-assed, an unexpected choking as if with overwhelming emotion. Veteran Wells watchers in the media room were not surprised by the gimmick, though they reportedly saw it as poorly played. In the courtroom, had we not all been on our best behavior, I would not have been surprised to see many of us on the benches, and even a few jurors, do one of those cartoon character double takes, where your head snaps around in circles before landing in some incredulous WTF?!! posture.
"Madness! Madness! Madness!"
When Pat Fitzgerald got up, thundering those words in mock outrage, he grabbed all the energy floating about the courtroom like static electricity, and held it to himself, never to surrender it, save during a brief, late sidebar we'll get to in a minute. This is not a reflection of my personal experience: this is my observation of what happened all around me.
I don't quite know how to explain it, other than to say Pat shocked people. His demeanor throughout the trial had been fairly direct, occasionaly subtly snarky or self deprecating, but he had not once raised his voice. . . until that moment. It jarred people. It commanded attention. Fitzgerald became a one man spontaneous passion machine from that point on. Yes, there were moments when his voice modulated, but his intensity never wavered. His command of the details of exhibits, including exhibit numbers, was unmatched by any other attorney in the case: he rattled them off like the names of his friends.
All about me, right from the outset of Pat's closing argument, I saw people begin to look at each other. Furtive, sidelong looks popped out all over. There I sat just behind the defense table, and I watched the lawyers sag and share occasional "oh shit" looks. Wells had his forehead resting on his hand, anchored on the table, remaining virtually immoble throughout. Junior defense attorneys, unconsciously mirroring his tone, slumped a bit in their seats the way my fifth grade basketball team used to do during a serious ass whupping early in the game with three quarters left to play. Just like my old basketball team, defense attorneys snuck looks at the clock (when will it be over!?). Libby's brother, who could pass almost for his doppleganger, put his arm around Scooter's wife. Fitz laid out a long, proper drubbing, and the jury, most of all, hung on every word and breath.
I can remember at whiles looking sidelong at Jane or Sidney, and they at me, especially when Fitz so clearly put Cheney's actions up for all to see. Whoa. We had not expected Fitz to go that far. No words passed among us, but we all had that, "Shit, he's really going for it" look in our eyes. We had all expected Fitzgerald to be the headline maker of the day, but he exceeded even our expectations, for all the fire and damning content he laid out.
As well as Marcy kept up with Fitz's rapid fire pace in her live blogging notes, the notes don't – they can't – capture fully what it was like to be there, to hear it and see it and see everyone else hearing and seeing it. . . especially the defense team. This was no Fred Thompson television lawyer fakery. This was the real deal, immediate, authentic and vibrant, frankly unlike anything I've ever seen in any film or stage play. Tonight I'm seeing Richard III at the Shakespeare Theater in DC. I'll let you know how it compares.
On Fitz went, from one point to another, until Jeffress finally interrupted (see the video link here) as Fitz eviscerated the argument that Plame was "not important" to Libby or the vice president by arguing that they were well aware that the potential outing of a covert operative could get others killed. The relevant Walter Pincus and Mike Allen article was safely snug in Libby's files.
Sometimes Fitz's voice seemed to quaver with righteous fury, other times he mocked himself, as in the time he went shuffling through his exhibit book and said to the jury something like, "This is where I pretend to look organized, shuffling through my papers, and you pretend to believe I actually know what I'm doing." This got a giggle, not big laughs, but he was not playing for laughs: he was just being genuine and a bit authentic. The jury was with him every step of the way, from all I could see.
Rhetorically, Fitzgerald closed deftly and effectively, turning some of Wells' pleadings on their head, but once he was done, and the jury was dismissed for the day, everyone in the courtroom, from what I could tell, knew they'd just seen something, at the very least, impressive. That is to say, it was impossible to have seen Fitzgerald's presentation and not have formed an impression, either of dread or dismay, as the defense team seemed to do, or wonder and awe, as we partisans seemed to do, or simply out of a sense of "gee whiz, something really happened," as many of the media newshounds seemed to do.
At the outset of the case, I wrote about some signature personalities in the courtroom: Fitzgerald, Walton and Wells. Tuesday's dramatics did not so much involve Walton but they did add Jeffress to the list. The title of that post was "Who's Your Daddy?" The proof of who may have been the most effective attorneys in the case won't come until the verdicts are in, and I won't speculate on what verdicts the jury will deliver, or when. As a scientist of human behavior, I'm highly circumspect about ever making any predictions about specific future behaviors under specific conditions. It's far easier to predict group behaviors and probabilities given repeated exposure to known stimuli, based on probabilities, but narrow things down to specific individuals and circumstances, and all bets are off. Juries are unpredictable.
What's more, no human observing human behavior is ever a blank, neutral slate, uninfluenced by being human, and I don't pretend, even from my professional vantage point, to be anything like a blank, neutral slate. To pretend thus is to be chock full of shit (establishment, "neutral" media people, take note!). I am a partisan. I do have strong opinions about the case. I am influenced in my perceptions by the reactions of those around me in a crowded room. Being part of a crowd can give you some insight into what's happening in the crowd around you if you pay attention, and if you can be circumspect enough to know the way your own biases or idiosyncratic reactions can color your own perceptions.
The verdicts will be the final arbiter of this trial's winners and losers, but based purely on being there, feeling it, soaking it all in and watching everyone around me, including close inspection of the defense team, the day of closing arguments belonged to one man, and one man alone.
You know the name.
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FITZ!
Sorry Pach, bad habit…
Anna Nicole decision – finally – is in -
Enough, all ready!
Hi, Pat! (in case you may lurk someday).
Let’s go Mets!
“Madness! Madness! Madness!”
When Pat Fitzgerald got up, thundering those words in mock outrage, he grabbed all the energy floating about the courtroom like static electricity, and held it to himself, never to surrender it…
The Wurlitzer is calling his wake up call “over-caffeinated.”
Dee @ 3
Meant to add – during the judge’s delivery of the decision he pulled a Wells!
Thanks for this shrink’s-eye-view. It was definitely one for the textbooks.
THUNDER IN THE NIGHT FOREVER!!
Awesome post.
re your opening statement: if ever a hero studiously avoided politics (whatever he thought privately) and adhered to the law it’s that one man you mention at the end. 2 years ago. and today. it’s much harder to be that kind of hero. if you looked on huff at the pop columns for that day, you’d see that wells got the clicks–but not from those who matter!
EPU’d.
LandOfTheFree @ 36:
I think a lot depends on when Libby’s sentence begins, if he’s convicted. Judge Walton will probably be choosing between two options:
1) Letting Libby remain free until his appeals are exhausted, or,
2) Giving Libby a month or so to put his affairs in order before starting a jail term.
(A third option is forcing Libby to immediately start his sentence, but that’s unlikely for a number of reasons, that I needn’t go into here.)
If Libby is allowed to remain free until his appeals are exhausted, then he’s unlikely to ever work a deal with Fitz. He’ll just try to keep the appeals going until it’s politically convenient for Bush to pardon him, most likely after the 2008 election.
If, however, Libby is required to start his sentence while awaiting appeals, then Fitz will have some leverage to cut a deal, because at that point Libby will do as much as he can to avoid jail time, or reduce his sentence.
Alternately, it would force Bush to issue an early pardon, before Libby’s sentence were to begin. It would be kind of interesting to see how badly that turns out for Bush and the Republic Party if he tries it.
In either case, Fitz only has leverage if Libby is forced to start his sentence before the appeals process is completed.
I have literally no idea how Walton will rule on that.
I would imagine that the case of a perjury conviction during a potentially ongoing investigation would provide Walton some incentive to rule that Libby’s sentence should begin as soon as is reasonable.
On the other hand, where the offender isn’t violent, there is reason to let the appeals process play out first, so a defendent won’t have to serve a sentence reversed on a appeal, and to allow the defendent to take part in his defense.
How Walton will weigh those issues, and what he’ll ultimately decide, is anyone’s guess.
If only Spencer Tracy could play him!
Today as we all wait for the REAL decision…
I listened to this rendition of Jane Siberry’s “The Valley” by k.d. lang.
Her voice surrounds me in a long, lingering embrace. I could use one today, and I send this out to all the other firepups who might need a hug as well.
And yet, a virtual news blackout.
oooh… I was *waiting* for this post! Thanks, Pach — it’s a beaut.
Fitz indeed! Boy howdy, I wish I could have been there.
Thanks to all who were our eyes and ears at the trial, especially Marcy for her remarkable liveblogging.
Is Joe ever OT at fdl? DailyKos is running a poll based on the upcoming Time mag article about Joe’s most recent switcheroo threat:
If Senator Joe switches sides will someone a Senate Republican switch to compensate?
You can take the poll here.
His command of the details of exhibits, including exhibit numbers, was unmatched by any other attorney in the case: he rattled them off like the names of his friends.
Oh shoot. I thought these kinds of details are friends? Arent’t the details our friends?
Pach!!
Kobe!
Pach,
Azucar!
Thank you so much for such a great account. We experience it through your words.
-S
Mike!!
Isn’t it amazing that a handful of people, who DON’T have to lie, can overcome a well-paid army whose only weapon IS the lie?
Fitz’ power comes from the fact that he is not lying. The truth is on his side, and that, a fair wind, and a fair jury with brains is all he needs.
Strategerie: Hay Que Empezar Otra Vez.
emptywheel @ 17
and sometimes weeds make up a garden!
Ed*ard Teller @ 16
From the way I understand it, it won’t matter if Joe jumps now or not since the organizing resolution has been passed. We will still control the committee and the leadership.
As a practical matter, I am torn. I wish he would jump since it would finally convince the stupid-asses that he was always going to stab us in the back anyways and they STILL helped him get back in. At the same time, there is no margin and without that, we are going to have a difficult time. Collins may switch though, since she is up on ‘08 and she knows that she will have a hard time getting re-elected as an R.
Beautifully written and a great read, Pach. Well done.
Pach
I could not possibly agree with you more.
I have seen Pat do very well, many times. I have never seen him do that well.
It had me on the edge of my seat the whole time.
I enjoyed that they way I used to enjoy a trip the circus when I was kid, or Springsteen concert when I was in college. It was that kind of energy.
Pach:
A wonderful post. Very powerful, and yet very touching. (Your writing always leaves me in awe and this is certainly no exception!)
Really, something must have happened to leave the Defense case in such a state of collapse. They tried a totally different tack than they insinuated during opening testimony. What happened? Why this drama on the closing day? How long is it before Wells has a breakdown and goes to rehab?
Great Comments Pach! Beautifully written and a great read.
Yoo Hoo…I just stopped by to give Jane a hug!
Do I have anything else to add? Well…no…I thought a hug would say it better than words!
looseheadprop @ 27
If anything, I felt myself trying to dial back on what I actually experienced and saw in the room by way of praise for Fitzgerald’s performance, for fear of losing credibility by allowing the appearance of loss of all reasonable measure.
I also had the impression, distinctly, that it’s so rare to see something like this, live, with the stakes involved, and to see the rise of talent and preparation to the occasion like this. Once in a lifetime? Probably. Unless there’s a sequel. . .
I’m at the courthouse, probably means nothing but Judge Walton is in the building.
Probably dying to know about Anna Nicole.
Pachacutec @
32
Yeah I dialed it back too for fear of sounding too much like a fan girl, but it was absolutely awesome.
Ahhh, a Fitz convert maybe?
I certainly wish I could have seen that in person, so much of what we see and hear about this is so desensitized due to the written word.It must be very difficult to come up with words to explain the feelings and atmosphere of such an emotionally charged venue.Not having any kind of photographic or video file to look back at such a historic moment makes us all poorer for the lack of a perspective.
Check out the NYTimes and Nick Kristof’s latest post, asking Bush and Cheney to come clean on Valerie Plame. Also check out the comments section.
Mike @ 25
Are you sure? Didn’t the Senate chairpersonships and leadership flip when Jeffords quit the GOP? Why would a Lieberflip have different consequences?
Jane, you are truly the Jane Hamsher of the left. Such venemous rabidity.
It’s been said often (and better) before, but y’all have distinguished yourselves and done the FDL community proud, while putting the traditional media to shame. Thank you.
Pach, what a brilliant analysis. It’s so important to have more than politics evaluating, especially since we all claim to be human. But then i wasn’t there, and you were, thankfully for us.
Because i feel strongly that my previous thread post shouldn’t be EPU’d, i’ll repost (though that’s probably a giveaway):
Swopa — Nice post, cogent thoughts.
But i do think Fitz cracked the conspiracy. I also think he has influential contacts who help him decipher the political landscape, which is different than just thinking about how one can obtain a conviction. They have spun the various potentialities like chess masters and experienced spooks, and made appropriate moves.
This case is not about the leak of “the wife” rather it’s about the civil war that’s going on in amurka. Despite the detail found nowhere else on Plamegate but here, we still do not see this civil war being fought in the background. (Though there are posts which seem to eminate from some of the fighters.)
Even Amb. Wilson, who will never get enough credit for his cojo…, strike that, courage, likely does not see the entire picture. Let’s just assume that there is a certain Agency which is (incredibly, powerfully, returningfireingly) pissed at the damage caused by the premature demise of carefully crafted Brewster Jennings.
Let’s assume some of them know Fitz’s private number. Let’s assume from some of the posts here, and real-world data ohne ende, that no matter what the jury verdict, this is just another battle in the ongoing civil war. and it will not stop whatever the verdict, only the strategy will be altered.
That said, (too much), i only hope that Jane’s disappointment at not seeing Chainey burn is recalibrated by seeing Libby found guilty on all five counts. and whatever happens, FDL has to rise to the defense of the Ambassador and his wife and some twins, just as Wells tried to intimidate.
“Wells had his forehead resting on his hand, anchored on the table, remaining virtually immoble throughout. Junior defense attorneys, unconsciously mirroring his tone, slumped a bit in their seats the way my fifth grade basketball team used to do during a serious ass whupping early in the game with three quarters left to play. Just like my old basketball team, defense attorneys snuck looks at the clock (when will it be over!?). Libby’s brother, who could pass almost for his doppleganger, put his arm around Scooter’s wife.”
Was Libby crying, or did he just have that “oh, shit, I’m screwed look”?
Pachacutec @ 32
Pat’s only in his mid 40’s, lawyers usually keep getting better and better into their 60’s.
Maybe he will top himself yet.
For instance if he ever gets the shot at putting Osama on trial.
It is these kinds of diaries that help flesh out the live blogging for the rest of us. I had the sense, from Marcy’s blogging of the closing statements, that Fitz was on a roll, but some here speculated that he may have just been speaking rapidly. Thanks to your excellent commentary, it seems that it was a combination of Fitz’s command of the facts, as well as his intense belief in the validity of the prosecution’s arguments, that made his presentation so powerful.
I can’t stand that first post “Fitz!” business either. What if we lead off every comments section with “Madness! Madness! Madness!”?
Just a thought.
Jane Hamsher @
34
Oh, then there’s that.
Be nice to me, Jane, I still have your stockings!
Don’t take this as trying to sympathize with Libby’s wife, but I can imagine that sitting in this courtroom and hearing the prosecution’s testimony of what her husband has done is probably the first time she has ever actually heard it.
I imagine Libby telling her all his usual lies of what happened and her not really hearing the other side of the story until now. I wonder what she is thinking of all of this?
Geez, Pach, that was so well written that it gave me goose bumps here in summer. Give me the version that isn’t dialed back now.
Seriously, this was so evocative and powerful. Thank you for taking the time to craft it and give us a window on this rare experience.
Reminds me of the spinal straightening I would feel when I would hear Barbara Jordan, or any articulate truth teller, spelling out the real deal to the confuse, the deluded, or the dishonest. Hearing it makes one feel clean. And grateful.
Leisure Guy!
Haven’t seen the good Ambassador in recent comment threads, but assuming you’re here, Hello, and best, best wishes to you and the “person, not an argument”!
ReneD @13:
I think there’s just not much to say yet. “Jury’s still out. Waiting.”
Once a decision is announced, we’ll start seeing much more from the media. It’s not like they can completely ignore a VP’s Chief of Staff being sent to jail for lying to the grand jury and FBI. Especially since it’s the first WH official at that high a level to even be indicted, much less convicted, in something like 150 or 175 years.
If Libby’s convicted, expect the press to finally start digging into this story more. If not, the story will simply be Republicer talking points on overzealous prosecutors and Dem partisans.
We’ll wait and see.
mc @ 40
At one point, Pat said that Cathy Martin says the best way to leak something to a reporter is to give them an exclusive, and Libby started nodding in agreement, then caught himself and froze, then looked around to see if anyone noticed.
I almost hooted out loud. It was such a funny moment.
Pach, after reading Blumenthal’s fabulous article at Salon, something struck me, and I’m hoping you or Christy or EW or Jane can confirm or deny it for me.
Jeffress spent his closing time mostly denigrating journalists; saying that they can’t be relied upon, and what they say isn’t true. Then at the end, according to Blumenthal, he urged the jury to acquit because “YOU”RE not journalists” implying that they are much more ethical and trustworthy. However, when I read that as EW was posting, it seemed more like he was just pointing out that the jurors are not there as journalists or politicians.
What was your impression of how that came across? Because if it was the former, Jeffress may have made a serious mistake–one of the jurors IS a journalist, and may take it seriously amiss that Jeffress was painting all journalists as essentially being unreliable, untrustworthy and perhaps pathological liars.
Damiana @ 51
You’re gonna laugh at me when I say this, but. . . I have no clear memory of that, and it’s not in my notes.
Pachacutec @
44
I forgot about that, Farmer Ted.
emptywheel:
The devil is in they details. The details are our friend. Therefore, our friend is the devil.
Oh well, at least s/he’s fun to party with.
looseheadprop @ 50
Uh. Mah. Gawd. That’s the greatest detail I’ve read yet!
One other thing, and I was drivng home yesterday and have not caught up on the posts, but,
The jusry sat there stone faced for an incredibly long day. Total poker face. No hints,attentive but no smiling no nodding, Nadda!
Pat gets up and they are laughing, they are leaning forward in teir seats. He asked arhetorical question, one juror started to answer and then caught himself.
This tired, tired jury rocked with him. That’s why I say it reminded me of a Springsteen concert. He just filled them up with energy and they were interacting with him. Only lawyer of the day (except for Walton who gat a laugh out of them earlier) to accomplish that.
very well put. that is the one thing that the live blog can and can’t capture. Marcy did pretty well when listing comments, and she didn’t overboard it. Swopa did a great job, different than Marcy.
the body lingo was what we missed. thanks
“given his palbably tumescent pride”
Pach, i don’t believe we will see Faux News commenting on this aspect of the case… but we are so lucky that we can find this (and so much else in your post) here.
looseheadprop @ 56
I am smiling from ear to ear.
hesikastor @ 9
Fitz works for the guv because he has passion for truth and the law.
Wells works for private firm because he has passion for $,$$$,$$$.
See the difference between working for passion and working for $$$? Personally…I put my money on the passion guy.
twolf1 @ 47
ROFLMAO.
Jane, I forgot too. I was going through my Tumi bag at a meeting with a brand new client and almost pulled them out.
It’s even funnier if I were able to tell you the client, but alas. . .
lemondloulou @ 36
Linky?
Fitz and FDL,
real, “shock and awe”!
Well done, pups!
thanks for the illuminating write-up, Pachacutec. I bet Court TV comes courting you as a “psych” commentator.
lhp: the only exception is the brunette in the back row who reflexively nods a lot when people speak to her. She described herself during vior dire as “a master of all things pop culture” but not attuned to politics.
Pach’s analysis does not surprise me one bit. We saw the abridged version of the exact same thing in that jewel of a press conference.
James Comey knows his DOJ guys.
And I’ll edit to say that, should Pat decide to truly go for The Big Kahuna, he’ll need every shred of passion he has.
Thanks for passing this along, Pach!
In reading the liveblog threads throughout the trial, I found myself wishing again and again for a live video feed. Reading this post made that wish even stronger.
*sigh*
Oh, and I want a pony, too.
Rabid Lambs and Venemous Rabbits!
Geez, I wish the court records were videotaped.
Oh well.
The official transcripts will have to do.
TRex @ 29
They must be really afraid of what Fitz has on Cheney, which he must have got confirmed by Rove, who would otherwise be sitting in the same chair as Libby. Something came up between Wells’s opening statement and his presentation of evidence that caused him to back off the ‘Rove through me under the bus’ approach. My guess is that it was a phone call from Rove, who clearly has no interest in seeing Cheney go down, since it brings down the whole house of cards he’s built for Bush. The same holds for putting Libby on the stand. Libby is going to take the hit until they get the Iran war ginned up. After that it doesn’t matter. He’s a good soldier.
am reposting this because i really want to know what people think about it—–
there’s something that noone has mentioned yet that nags at the back of my brain——and am wondering why noone else noticed it, the visual stuck in my brain when wells said it, and then when fitgerald said it back, it rang a bell…….and i said ‘uh oh’ to myself when i heard it come from fitzgerald…..
so, i went back over summations and rebuttal, to verify, to see who said it first—the cloud over the VP’s office—……i know it’s not a transcript, but remembered that i thought it was WELLS who first brought up the ‘cloud over the VP’s office’ analogy…….and that is what i think really bit him back, because then Fitzgerald used it back on him…….i think it first came from wells and that is why he looked to disguted and defeated, because that is now the quote everyone is using for fitzgerald as one of the best points of his rebuttal…….i’d be depressed, too……..must have killed him, he threw the softball, and fitzgerald hit it out of the park………
from live-blog:
Wells #3
under 3:06 heading
Govt tried to put cloud over VP Cheney. During questioning of Ms Martin. We’ll you weren’t with Mr. Libby all the time. Somethings could have happened while you weren’t there. The clear implication was that there was skullduggery. That’s unfair on teh facts of this case. Scooter Libby wasn’t out pushing stories on the wife. Look at output side.
and here is where fitzgerald first uses it-
fitzgerald #1
under 4:31 heading
There is a cloud over the VP. He wrote those columns, he had those meetings, He sent Libby off to the meeting with Judy. Where Plame was discussed. That cloud remains because the denfendant obstructed justice. That cloud was there. That cloud is something that we just can’t pretend isn’t there.
============================
it wasn’t only his memory, but while he was doing all that—what came into his ears and through his brain and back out of his mouth……..
Madness! Madness! (sorry I always wanted to say that)
ralphbon @ 37:
If I remember correctly, Jeffords switched between the election and the organizing resolution.
Nice post, Pach. It confirms what I, too, felt during Marcy’s live-blogging of the moment.
My favorite part: “Sometimes Fitz’s voice seemed to quaver with righteous fury, other times he mocked himself, as in the time he went shuffling through his exhibit book and said to the jury something like, “This is where I pretend to look organized, shuffling through my papers, and you pretend to believe I actually know what I’m doing.”
Perfectly timed comic relief goes a long way to making one’s case-especially a deadly serious case.
I am so jealous of all who were allowed in the courtroom. Thanks for your insights–the dearth of coverage, along with the 24-hour mania of Anna Nicole and Brittany, has brought me to the brink of despair.
Great stuff, Pach.
> Really, something must have happened to leave
> the Defense case in such a state of collapse.
> They tried a totally different tack than they
> insinuated during opening testimony. What
> happened? Why this drama on the closing day?
> How long is it before Wells has a breakdown and
> goes to rehab?
I apologize for not have the reference from the OP in a previous thread, but the theory that makes the most sense to me is that Libby intervened too much in his own defense strategy, and was a cross-purposes with his defense team.
Cranky
Pach-Just a plain beautiful read, felt the warm glow emanating. OT for Jane, sorry about the Lakers sixth loss in-a-row. The Blazers found the team spirit after many years absence. Go team FDL !
Never have I wished I was an almuni of NYU (I transferred) until now. College Republicans have a game called Hunt down the Immigrant it appears, and now Jesus’ General has written a letter. College Republicans are really beyond the pale.
Actually, I agree. The Cheney stuff Fitz hit head on during the closing rebuttal was particularly worrisome to a defense team that has always been at least in part divided by a need, perhaps imposed by Libby, to protect Cheney. And Comstock, who was sitting right in front of me and slightly to the right, appeared frozen with tension.
Pachacutiec @ 44:
*Swoons*
Lindy @
63
It should soon be available on Truthout (www.truthout.org), perhaps sometime this weekend.
OT Breaking News: Lieberman Says War Vote Could Prompt Party Switch
http://www.politico.com/news/s…../2865.html
Hes just too sleazy…Whats the matter Joe, not enough attention?
This masterful description of the people involved in closing this terrifying trial is why FDL is unique. The quality of writing about a most immediate and important event is riveting.
When I read or experience a masterpiece, I am transported by it to the mind of the artist. I am given the gift of inhabiting their realm.
FDL has combined this with journalism.
Amazing.
Thank you, again.
Finally finished reading all of your post, Pach. Thanks for painting such a vivid picture. It must have really been something, sitting there as it unfolded.
Now, where are all the articles about it from the MSM?
here’s my take…
fitz isn’t “a hero on a white horse makes spectators of us all”. he is the hero that inspires us by his example to believe that an individual can make a difference – with persistence and honor we can all do our part.
it is the examples of upright people who work their butts off pursuing the truth without fear or favor that truely inspire.
here’s a couple of over-the-top examples to consider: gandhi and mlk – they were heros who inspired people by the example of their own actions to do more, to risk more than they may have thought possible. it was just the opposite of becoming spectators.
cheerleading can encourage…. but our true heros inspire.
fitz inspires.
Fitz was masterful-thanks for giving us your read on his impact.
Wish I could have been there.
FITZMASTIME!!
Libby’s toast and Darth is on deck!
Wow, Pach. Nice post! That was very enlightening.
Pach, great post, thanks.
Does anyone know, is there a tape recording of Fitz’s closing?
Jury done for the day. No news.
mack @ 69
Yeah, there will be a special spot in hell for the people who program “CNN Headline News, FOX News and MSNBC” for the last two days of non-stop “WHERE TO PLANT THE DECAYING BODY OF ANNA NICOLE?” trial coverage.
Why were we force-fed this crap and not the Libby trial? No, wait. You don’t really have to answer that.
W o w……I’m in awe of your command for painting mental pictures.
That sure was fun to read Pach!
I am increasingly liking the idea that Libby forced his defense team, against their professional instincts, to defend him in a way that preserved his role as the Admin’s firewall. I’ll bet anything that Wells and Jeffress would have made a more interesting case had they been able to concentrate on exonerating Libby, and never mind Rove and Cheney and Bush.
Libby’s insistence on keeping the firewall up gave them nothing to work with, and so we have Wells holding his forehead in his hand, hoping that his despair over flopping so completely will read as despair over the thought that he won’t get Libby “back.”
Jane Hamsher @ 90
Damn, isn’t it obvious what the verdict should be?
;-)
Pach,
In your opinion, was Fitz rebutting Victoria Toensing when he shouted Madness!, then brought in the dangers of outing a CIA agent?
Outstanding post. What a thrill it must’ve been. Historic.
There has to be a bit of fear and trepidation in the other camp…a lot of “What If”.And there still is that sealed bombshell of a inditment…
OfT
pachachutec
this is beautiful writing – really beautiful.
i have not seen the drama of the day or of the trial written up any better anywhere.
thanks
sleep well, fair jurors and render justice anon.
Great post Pach– thanks for sharing and enjoy Richard III.
James R 93:
If so, then there goes any idea of Libby flipping. He’d rather fall on his sword to save his master. Maybe that’s why Wells was so expensive — he demanded a Tom Cruise salary for a Tom Cruise performance. [/snark. sorry]
Pectopah @
95
In my view, not particularly or consciously. There were immediate precipitants, targets from Wells’ argument, that he went after directly.
Less directly, I think Fitz did recognize that, unless and antil there is a conviction, this could be his last opportunity to make a public statement that gets to the reality and import of this case and of the wider investigation he had taken over. There’s been so much misinformation, including but not limited to Toensing.
In a very derivative way, then, I suppose the answer to your questions is a very weak “yes,” with lots of caveats attached.
JGabriel @ 81
EBAY HERE WE COME!
After this gig ends I will be performing all next month in Chicago with Conrad Black.
Pachacutec @ 66
You mean the alternate who got let go? They let the two alternates go after jury instrcutions
cathy @ 45
I would tend to see the little wifey in the complete opposite way. Assuming she has been married to him for years (as opposed to recent trophy wife), she knows full well what an asshole he is. You don’t get to be COS to VPOTUS by being a nice guy and her excellent homemade brownies. Yes, she may be hearing some details about his assholeness that she hadn’t heard before, but I will guarantee she knows what he is. But I suspect that she saw his power and earnings potential years ago and latched onto him, seeing him as her sugar daddy. I never feel sorry for women whose sugar daddies have turned out to be pieces of shit. Let’s face it — if she was the nice sweet girl next door, she could have and would have done a lot better than him in terms of honor, nobility, honesty, etc. Don’t feel sorry for her – she got hers too. (Why does Anna Nicole Smith pop into my head as I am previewing this comment?)
Jane Hamsher @ 90
Darn.
John Casper @ 89
No. No cameras or recoreders allowed in the courtroom other than the one Judge Walton used to make a tape of the jury instructions
You know, if you people would just stop commenting, I might actually get my kitchen cleaned up…..;)
Wow. What a post. Thanks, Pach – That was… Wow.
Jane Hamsher @
34
don’t hold back! you’re our eyes and ears!
seriously, i believe you… i got goose bumps reading marcy’s liveblogging. wow, wow, wow!
i gotta hope that some day, maybe decades from now, the audio of fitz’s closing rebuttal will be released to the public.
Bustednuckles @
35
I appreciate how centered Pach’s report is… and that he admits he tried to dial back…
I find his report more reliable for it’s logic over being a “convert”.
To me, most telling, Pach’s willingness to let all this sit quiet in his mind for a whole day before expressing it.
Well done, Pach. Thank you.
lhp: she’s not an alternate. Late 30’s white female in hotel convention sales.
I’m feeling better and better about the prospects of a conviction, which means I’m feeling curiouser and curiouser about how the appeals process would likely unfold. That may be worth some preemptive unpackaging by CHS or LHP for IANALs like me.
Thanks lhp.
Pach, you are one lucky man and a very talented writer (not to mention your talents in psychology). Thanks for a very powerful witnessing. You, Christy, Jane and Marcy (and SWOPA of course) made quite a well-blended team. we are all truly grateful.
TRex @ 103
Heh. I was wondering who would take that serve. Nice return, TRex.
For a second, I thought “hotel convention sales” was some snarky description of her clothing.
snowbird42– here’s Time with an even more disgusting pic and take on Lieberliar.
http://www.time.com/time/natio…..58,00.html
Pachacutec @
44
The important question is, does Marcy still have my leather jacket??
ralphbon @ 37
The Senate organizing resolution in that session specifically allowed for it, and the one in this session specifically doesn’t. (Apparently there have been several times in the past when a party lost the majority, because of deaths or resignations, but kept the leadership.)
However, I’d rather not spend the next two years hearing the wingnuts yowl about how unfair it is. It’s be Texas Redistricting all over again.
Pachacutec @ 113
I don’t know who any of them are. Just that one from the front row and one from the back row, both about 3 seats from the door were alternates
TiredFed @ 116
“Thank You” just doesn’t seem to cut it.
Pach, you have impressed me and I am no pushover.
nothing new on PACER. will check again later tonight. now to read all that wonderful stuff I missed today.
ralphbon @ 114
When we have a verdict. I’ll start working on the appeal. How’s that?
brilliant piece, Pach. thank you.
What a great description of events – thank you very much for giving us a real sense of the drama.
Fitzgerald must be an outstanding lawyer. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE will he now go after the Dark Force so ordinary Americans can see how they have been hoodwinked by these crooks.
looseheadprop @ 56
The Truth shall set ye free!
Pachacutec @ 52
*falls over giggling*
Jacqrat @ 123
A nice donation to FDL is a fantastic way to add some additional ooomph to your thank you!
TiredFed @ 125
thank you! if i can’t have the audio, i really want the transcript of fitz’s close.
and if i can’t have that… at least i have marcy’s and swopa’s amazing liveblogging, jane, christy and lhp’s analysis and pach’s awesome description. i’m a happy camper.
i’m sure i forgot some names… please forgive me!
Pach, thank you and the other FDLers for live-blogging the trial – It’s something that I’ll never forget. You all did a great job.
my favorite quote from Richard III:
My conscience hath a thousand several tongues,
And every tongue brings in a several tale,
And every tale condemns me for a villain.
Perjury, perjury, in the high’st degree
Murder, stem murder, in the direst degree;
All several sins, all used in each degree,
Throng to the bar, crying all, Guilty! guilty!
I shall despair. There is no creature loves me;
And if I die, no soul shall pity me:
Nay, wherefore should they, since that I myself
Find in myself no pity to myself?
Methought the souls of all that I had murder’d
Came to my tent; and every one did threat
To-morrow’s vengeance on the head of Richard.
enjoy the play!
PACH! FITZ!
Wonderful post sir! Deep thanks for putting us right in that courtroom with you.
I see nothing wrong with acknowledging the rock-star status of Fitz here.
He’s an absolute genius at what he does.
He’s impeccably honest.
He shows incredible grace and courage under pressure.
If he’s not humble, he’s one whale of an actor.
He shows empathy and respect for others.
He’s dedicated to his work for the public good.
He knows how and when to be ruthless, without losing his humanity.
From all reports, he is an inspiration to his staff and students of the craft.
Gawbless him, all that and he has a sense of humor.
He is the complete anthesis of the stereotypical arrogant, greedy lawyer of fiction and unfortunately, sometimes, real life.
Oh heck, he comes across as the nice guy next door.
What’s not to admire?
IMHO, the world sorely needs more people with a bit of fitz-ness in ‘em.
OT via Raw Story. no comment:
Cranky Observer @ 77
My related WAG is that at opening, they planned to call a number of administration officials (Card, etc.), but after seeing Fitzgerald’s cross-examinations, the administration realized how damaging it could be, and told good-soldier Libby to stop it from happening.
Yes, I’m thinking of the play as Richard Cheney.
Lurking hard|!!!!!
I am praying furiously that the jury doesn’t get tampered with by TPTB.
Pach- I’ll save this post to read again, again & again. Thank you.
From TNR’s blog, The Plank:
looseheadprop @ 126
Thanks…just as long as you “work on the appeal” for FDL and not ILL.
(Holy crap; I never noticed what Scooter’s initials spell out until now!)
There’s a diary right now on Kos that says that Fitz told the jury that Libby was told not to discuss the investigation and the one person he did discuss it with was Cheney. I know the second part of that sentence is true per Marcy’s blogging, but did Fitz say the other part to the jury?
just dropped some more coin in the basket. thanks to you all for inspiring me as selise @86 so eloquently stated
that’s a winner for sure, maggie s.
The play is wonderful and I once had Ian McKellan stride into my classroom in college with no announcement at all. He delivered several excerpts from Richard III that day, including the above; I was sitting in the front row and would have swooned were I not so mesmerized.
Swopa @ 120
My goodness gracious. Fitz has to land running full speed, & put together another trial for you boys ‘n gurls to go to. What say?
Pachacutec @ 137
Absolutely!! enjoy it!
Pach, great post!
My experience of the closing statement was mesmerizing — I don’t think I took a single breath the entire time Fitz was speaking.
I was struck at how human a scale he brought to his arguments — not only for Valerie Wilson, but, more importantly for Libby himself. Fitz’s reference to temptation — that Libby yielded to temptation — was SO HUMAN; I think every person in the room felt, by force or choice, connected to him when he said that “we have all lied in our lives, each of us, and we know what it is to get caught.” He simply led us all to the level of biblical understanding, Libby’s choice between good and evil; and, finally for the jury, to redemption by the truth.
Swopa @ 120
Gotta say, it’s the perfect weight coat, now that DC is warming up.
Particularly now that I cut off the sleeves–they were WAY too long for me.
;-p
Sing along, I’m feeling better every time I push play.
angie @ 144
Wow – lucky you! I think I would have swooned for sure! This play SO reminds me of BushCo and yes – Richard III is Dick Cheney!!
emptywheel @ 147
ROFL!
Speaking only for myself, of course, when I think of giants, I think of Abraham Lincoln. This giant is for me, the yardstick against all, whom I measure.
PACH!!!
After I read your piece, I had to let out that shout. Thank you!!!
And I also want to hand out doggie treats all the way around to the FABULOUS FDL Plame House team. Your teamwork on this case has been awesome. In fact, I think the FDL team deserves a Pulitzer. I really do! One small little suggestion though– bring Jeralyn back on board, more fully! We need her balancing caution and insight.
And I really hope you guys stick together for whatever the sequel is. We will continue to need your collective insights and observations to help us understand what’s happening. We certainly aren’t going to get it from the MSM.
As I think about the FDL coverage of this trial, I thought about the Scopes trial. Of course, there were all kinds of technical differences, but suppose what it would have been like if, say, they had allowed telegraph operators to view the proceedings from a special observation room with some kind of audio feed (if only a grill mounted in the wall.) Imagine the excited tapping during William Jennings Bryan’s orations, and the careful counterpoint by the opposition lawyers. Heck, one could make quite a stage play out of that.
Bob in HI
Marcy, HELP!
I always waited for your, Beer Thirty!
Suffering trial withdrawal symptoms, & the jury’s not even back yet!?!
Could you please say it one more time, in BOLD?
Fitzmas @ 104
How many degrees of separation between Conrad & Cheney? I’m thinking only 1 or 2. Hmmmmmm…………
clueless @ 106
Nah. I don’t buy it. If you marry someone powerful, you love to hear the stories of who your spouse (by extension, you) have stuck it to. Everybody loves to be on a winning team…when they lose, not so much.
She probably feels that she could have handled the lie better, anyway.
Two nice tidbits from Dana Priest’s Q&A on WaPo this afternoon:
(1) Wingnutus republicanus:
and (2) take that Victoria Toensing:
Great description, Pach. Until vaudeville, trials were the primary form of entertainment in most counties. Watching a good trial lawyer close is always an entertaining, sometimes riveting, experience. I have always said that a trial lawyer’s opening should have him or her in the role of storyteller, the closing in the role of teacher (weaving the facts and law together as Z did) and the rebuttal in the role of a preacher (getting the jury to connect its verdict with some larger moral value}: in this case Fitz chose the redemption of truth for Lady Justice. For those worried about pardons, the Chimp won’t dare do it until after the November 08 election. By then, even if Scooter is free on bail, the appeal will likely have been decided and prison time will await. Judge W. may choose to reprise Judge Sirica and not grant post-conviction bail. Then the pressure for Scooter to implicate Shooter is more immediate.
Idolatry has no place in real Democracy. Arianna, Olbermann, former President Carter, among others, I admire almost to no end. But idolize? I don’t think so.
It is too simplistic to say that the winner of th e two (defense lawyer or prosecution lawyer) will be decided by the verdict. If Fitz convinces 11 out of 12 jurors of Libby’s culpability, does that make Wells more effective? No. What if the one who decided in favor of Libby’s innocence was a biased ill-inentioned closet wingnut? We don’t know.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 152
Lincoln wasn’t too bad himself, speaking off the back of an envelope at Gettysburg:
Fitz seems dedicated to that noble cause of preserving the Constitution and speaks loudly on behalf of the people’s government of which Lincoln spoke.
And Fitz makes his home in the Land of Lincoln. Coincidence? I think not.
pete @ 143
ok, now you inspired me… ;-)
my turn to put something in the kitty. i wish it was more, but if we all do what we can….
dharmabum @ 156
eww *meow*
i think i’ll just leave “the wife” out of this fwiw.
only thing is, at least Richard III actually fought in his battles.
Sorry for the OT, but just read that Halliburton is taking over Walter Reed. Anyone else heard that?
This is what I read:
“One of my co-worker’s sisters works for a Haliburton branch company. Her group is taking over Walter Reed. They’ve been working on the transition for several months. The situation is tense and conditions are not improving. My coworker’s sister feels the military and government workers being replaced are doing their best to sabotage the transition. The injured soldiers are caught in the middle.
Hearsay, of course, except for the outsourcing of Walter Reed.”
snowbird42 @
83
I don’t think he’s really gonna jump – playing games, as usual, thinking he’s in a power position to get his way with dems and impress his republican daddys – payback for his “election” – keep stirring the pot, trying to make dems look bad.
IMO, if he jumps, it’ll be news for a week, then Joementum disappears into obscurity – the repukes have no use for him UNLESS he’s a dem. And, of course, he loses his committee chairmanship and any power he might have had.
I bet a lot of people hope he does switch. Maybe the dems are even gently shoving him over the cliff…
Just amazing, FDL. Hope I just bought y’all another round or two of your favorite beverages (again!). Many, many thanks.
Pachacutec I am very late to this, but I want to say for the record:
Wonderful post, great writing. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this.
It’s time to throw Lieberman overboard, Democrats. And I fully realize the ramifications.
EW: re. your comment last night about the BALCO reporters. News reports last week said a Defense Attorney for a BALCO VP leaked the grand jury testimony to the reporters, then proclaimed his client would be unable to get a fair trial and blamed the leak on Prosecutors. The reporters said nothing, and even went back for more leaked testimony. It appears the first amendment was used once more as cover for not so noble means.
Thanks Pach, a really great post that seemed more like watching a great movie. You created a visual picture and got me closer to feeling the experience of being there. The energy of the truth through an Irish fighter. Thank you Patrick Fitzgerald!
clueless @ 155
At most, just one: Richard Perle.
Pach-
Have to add my admiration to the compliments above; this was wonderfully written, and the end (”You know the name.”) was so satisfying.
You are quite the writer, as well as the shrink.
You, Marcy, Christy, Jane, Swopa, etc., etc., have shown once again why we come to FDL day after day. Truth, eloquently presented.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, all!
angie @ 164
true. he wasn’t a chickenhawk. But he did scheme, scheme, sheme, like Darth Cheney!
Langston Hughes said it best in his poem “Let America be America again”:
Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed–
Let it be that great strong land of love
Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme
That any man be crushed by one above.
or woman in the case of Valerie Plame!
I hope Fitz continues to persue Dick Cheney!!!
I’ll pop in again late tonight, gang. I have to get ready for my evening at he theater. Thanks for all the kind words.
Lieberman is essentially blackmailing the Democratic party. My party.
twolf1 @ 47
Waaaay late… but that’s my line!
:-)
War and peace: new shiny at egr blog.
While we are rightly focusing on the Libby trial, other events are surging forward.
Are we going to let them lure us into yet another war of aggression?
Yeah, yeah, I’m not supposed to talk about Iran, the way that we don’t mention H*lary Cl*nton in front of oklahoma kiddo.
NZ Expat-
“Sorry for the OT, but just read that Halliburton is taking over Walter Reed. Anyone else heard that?”
Lord, I hope not. But, I wonder. When Gen. Kiley (right name?) called in to the Diane Rehm show featuring Dana Priest and her co-author yesterday, he mentioned in passing some group of staff who have been “in transition to becoming contractors.”
Driving down the street, I began yelling, “that’s it! That’s it! the Bush privatizing yet AGAIN!”
Don’t know if that’s true, and I sure hope not. But it would fit the pattern (we must drown the government, even the medical care for the soldiers), and in the process, the soldiers are screwed once more.
Would you folks *please* not run down Richard Plantagenet? Please remember Shakespear was writing for a Tudor monarchy.
The odds are very good that Henry VII had the Princes done in — after all he had their sister made legitimate in order to marry her.
In this case, it’s follow the power…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 159
I’m with you, believe it or not.
In #134, I’m talking deep respect and admiration based on all the reports I’ve ever heard & read about the man, except one.
Lawyer/author Scott Turow apparently had run-ins as defense atty agnst Fitz, & has hinted at bitter memories in re: the tactics & zeal to prosecute. Feeling different parts of the elephant? Dunno. You’ve seen Jeralyn’s queaziness over Fitz’s intensity, in writings about current libbytrial.
It’s hard not to admire greatly such incredible personal qualities, professional skills and performance. But idolize? no. ;->
it’s true what you say Brisingamen…
the context is everything.
Oh Pach…you make me think of this Cronkite show….
And now we can add you and all of FDL to the brand new YOU ARE THERE Show. Amazing work you’ve all done…
Thank you for the fantastic description of the closing arguments!
Fitzgerald was THE BOMB!!!!
Just waiting till the jury comes in.
The suspense is killin me.
Thanks to all at FDL for their fantastic coverage and keen observations.
It’s the only way we could ever know what happened in this courtroom. (As the MSM seems to think the ONLY thing in the world to cover is Anna.)
Thanks for every thing you guys have done.
(Hopefully, you’ll be able to continue when the VP gets charged)
Ooops, I see Oklahoma Kiddo is on. Sorry for mentioning You Know Who.
Forgive??
Oklahoma kiddo @ 168
We already did.
“frankly unlike anything I’ve ever seen in any film or stage play. Tonight I’m seeing Richard III at the Shakespeare Theater in DC.”
And Cheney wanders offstage mumbling, “A limo, a limo, my kingdom for a limo…”
NZ Expat @ 165
If they’d agree to do excellent quality work, promptly, and pro bono, that’s fine with this taxpayer.
but a little voice inside me keeps whispering to wait for a revelation that they claimed to have done the renovation already, last year.
Frank Probst @ 186
Amen.
Adie @ 181
You’re OK., Adie.
JEP @
187
More like: “A draft deferment, a draft deferment, my political allegiance for a draft deferement!”
JEP @ 187
A shredder. My kingdom for a shredder.
Suh-weet post, Pach!
I’m such blog slut these days. My habit has to be fed, so I’m reading around indiscriminately (and enjoying the opportunity to be an irritating gadfly, wherever possible!)
I can’t believe how many people still cling to the old “Plame wasn’t covert and this is much ado about nothing,” meme.
If that were the case, why didn’t Bush, when questioned about leakers in his administration, simply say, “There was no crime. Ms. Plame was not a covert employee.”
Think of how much time, money, and embarrassment he could have saved the government!
[RBG Note; pick a name and stick with it. Sock puppetry is cause for banning from this site]
A new thread to unravel.
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..e/#respond
egregious @ 185
;0)
Brisingamen @ 180
Yup, that’s why Henry not only had Titulus Regis repealed without being read, but anyone found with a copy was to be heaved into prison.
In fact Henry was so anxious to either control or destroy the bloodlines of the Plantagenets that he had Richard’s illegitimate son John offed, even though Richard had deliberately kept John from being his heir: Richard’s designated heirs (once the Princes were rendered illegitimate by the discovery of their father’s first-and-never-annulled marriage) were first young Warwick, his dead brother George’s son, and then John de la Pole, Earl of Lincoln, once Warwick was found to be mentally deficient. (Oh, and Henry eventually got around to killing those two blokes, too: de la Pole in battle, and poor mentally-slow Warwick at the end of a rope to keep him from being rallied around.)
ralphbon @ 172
‘zackly! (That was my point. Good catch!)Oklahoma kiddo @ 176
urban pirate @ 192
Lucy’s version: “a Schroeder. my kingdom for a Schroeder.”
punaise @ 197
707!!!
cathy @
45
Guarantee: the entire apparatus is an untanglable morass of lies and distrust. No single lie ever stands unsupported except by more lies.
It remains phenomenal and a testament to their nerve and fortitude that they still have a cohesive front. Never the less, they’re lying to us and they’re lying to (and scared sh*tless of) each other. It’s fragile.
angie @
144
Holy sh*t! McKellan! I might have swooned myself. More likely, I probably would have ogled him, trying to pick him up. And given that hot young boytoy thang he drags around, I might have had a chance! I *was too!* Once. Long ago….
Pach, I learned more in the last fifteen minutes about the character of this event than I’ve gotten from the MSM throughout the whole trial.
Thanks for the synopsis, and I think Fitz knew he had one of those historic moments in his hands.
Was he smiling when he cried “Madness!”?
rosalind @ 170
Grumble grumble grumble.
Thanks for letting me know.
Fitz!
Adie @ 181
Ha! Two Amherst guys beating each over up. They probably fought over a spilled bad beer once.
egregious @ 178
Scares me !
This is a terrific sketch of the scene at closing arguments, and of the subtle interplay between political commitment and disciplined observation among those trying to cover the trial. The main line church in journalism thinks the more you have of one, the less you get of the other. People with political commitments made manifest aren’t going to be good at disciplining themselves to just record what happens.
That’s what the church says. I think you have shown how inadequate and narrow-minded that dogma is. Good, accurate, careful, comprehensive, vivid and up-to-moment reportage can come from many different kinds of observers: the professionally non-aligned have no exclusive claim on it. The coverage of the Libby trail has definitely demonstrated that. The demo is the archives of this blog during the trial itself.
And it is quite evident that your users support you, and realize the significance of what you are doing.
“….and if you can be circumspect enough to know to the way your own biases or idiosyncratic reactions can color your own perceptions.”
I read this several times. Pretty sure there’s an extra word or a missing word in there. Is it supposed to be “know the way your own biases…?”
Thanks for doing this. I mean to the whole gang, thanks.
Thank you for this brilliant description. I don’t know who I have a bigger crush on , Pach or Fitz…
Pach: This post is like a banana split.
Hey Jay!
Thank you for the great journalism! Everyone of you. I think by now the whole world must be using this site as its go-to for the real information. (transcript-notness notwithstanding).
You’ve done us all a great service.
Redshift @
136
Let’s think about this folks. Wells could not possibly have launched the scapegoat defence without Libby’s complete support. He would not have launched it unless he knew he had evidence lined up to back it up. He knew how good Fitz is so the cross-examination cannot have been that much of a surprise.
So someone said “Don’t do that or else…”, probably to Libby. Is Rove still powerful enough to do that in his own right and be convincing?
So Libby says we cannnot use this line. Wells sees his main, and possibly best, line of defence has just been blown out of the water. He knows he will be blamed for the likely consequences, conviction, and there is nothing he can do about it. So he starts off wasting time with what amounts to a disguised “It’s not my fault” defence, and damn the consequences. He doesn’t care, he’s so pissed off by what his client has done to him and his reputation.
Does this make sense?
wow, Jay Rosen @ 206 in the house!
jay, so glad you are here to do some metameta analysis. the truth matters… as best as we can strive for it. perhaps that is the ultimate political committment.
p.s. i love pressthink….
excellent — well-turned!
so. . . i do think fitz has been deliberately
conservative — playing his hand one card
at. a. time. . .
will scooter libby agree to testify, in return
for a reduced sentence on what looks to be four
felonies? i am uncertain about that. . .
more here. . .
go fitz!
looseheadprop @ 50
OMG That is too funny! I just love the thought of all you rabid lambs following this story in the court- and media- rooms knowing this story inside out and catching all these little details and catching all the media asleep.
Great post. A measured, thoughtful, admiring critique of not just “the moment,” but the events of the day as they built towards the seemingly cathartic finish. This post is yet another strong statement of the extraordinary high drama of the proceedings. It’s incredible that we were able to follow it here thanks to emptywheel and FDL, and just reading it on Tuesday was shocking–yes, real shock and awe (!), along the lines of “what was that?” and “did what I think just happened really happen?” And my interest for the last 48 hours or so has tracking the widening response, and this post makes a great addition to it.
But I can’t help but think that this was a perfect opportunity for the MSM and network news, with their fancy courtroom illustrators and Deep Significant Tones. Even Katie Couric would have been able to recite this drama and knock it out of the park (”Madness Madness Madness”–giggle/smile). It had everything; it was all teed up for them. I said it before: after the drama of the indictment news conference, and Fitz slipping so naturally and forcefully into his populist star persona then, the fact that his summation was possibly an American historical classic wasn’t a huge surprise. Fingers and everything else are crossed in hopes that we get the desired results.
A big part of this trial and discussion has been about horrendously shoddy and lame journalism, but it’s especially sad that the MSM was too fearful, sleepy, distracted and twisted to take advantage of what it can actually do very well when it wants to. These guys will put on trenchcoats and fly around the world for a little clip that will boost ratings, but when there’s an already-established star stepping up in a DC courtroom, they miss it completely. I can’t craft the right sentence and should rest on my Tuesday QotD laurels (my greatest accomplishment ever), but at the moment Lorenzo Charles comes to mind with regards to emptywheel’s game winner, and FDL’s championship coverage in an astounding upset of the MSM.
It would be nice if Jane or Marcy would re-enact Fitzgerald yelling Madness! Madness! Madness!
Adie @ 181
I find it difficult to think of any time he has CROSSED the line. Zeal is a great thing when you are right. Could someone tell me when he was not in the right?
Xanu!
libby should have called jimmy jeff guckert to testify so as to bolster the never-trust-the-media theory. cheney’s boys told the jurors to ask for flip charts and stuff today and not to return their verdict until friday. so say it with me now: FIX!
Finally put some cash in the Plame-a-thon Tip Jar. Add my thanks to the chorus – it has been riveting to say the least.
Hey – can any of you who subscrive to the Times Select cut and paste in the new Nick Kristoff article “Cheney and Bush owe me an apology – questions from the Libby trial”? Many thanks!
So it was the media in the basement with the corpse?
most excellent post pach. printed this up and read it on the bus ride home tonight.
whatever happened to cliff may? and the swiftboaters who would swear in court that Jo Wilson outed his own wife in the greenrooms?
lying thugs.
Dana Priest in her WaPo appearance today:
Santa Cruz, Calif.: Is it true that Judith Miller obtained a Security Clearance when she was a reporter on WMD for the NY Times and do other NYT reporters working on the same issues like Michael Gordon have Security Clearances? Finally, what effect does this have on self-censorship by the press?
Dana Priest: There’s no such thing as a security clearance for a journalist, at least not in my experience.
There are yet a few journalists worth their salt, and Dana Priest is one of them. I’ll bet she’s played a little rugby in her time, too.
John Casper @ 98
Sad news. DJ was one of the best defensive players of his era, as well as a good offensive player. As a Knick fan, I had no love for the Celtics, but I always respected DJ.
So often after reading an FDL post I am prompted to offer my reactions or insights. Here I am prompted merely to say thank you. Thanks so much, Pachacutec, for taking me inside the courtroom with you and lending me your eyes, ears, brain and heart so I too could experience what should rank with some of the most memorable closing arguments in history. BRAVO! Thank you, thank you, thank you.
thewheezer @ 221
is this what you wanted?
February 21, 2007, 10:07 am
Bush and Cheney Owe an Explanation
By Nicholas D. Kristof
One way or another, the Scooter Libby trial will soon be over. Whatever the verdict, President Bush and Vice President Cheney owe the American people a candid explanation of what went on in that period in the White House.
I’m not by nature a conspiracy theorist, and I don’t presume to know what Bush or Cheney did. But the trial has raised fundamental questions about their involvement on the periphery of allegedly criminal actions, and they need to clear the air. Cheney argued — fatuously, I believe — that it would be inappropriate for him to discuss the matter because of the pending trial; in any case, that burden is removed and he should speak up.
The basic question for Cheney is whether he directed an effort from the White House to tar the reputations of Joe and Valerie Wilson, blame the C.I.A. for misleading him and leak to favored reporters the fact that Valerie worked for the C.I.A. in the W.M.D. area. It sure appears he did all of these. In addition, since Libby and Cheney shared a limousine to work every day, did they ever discuss the statements that Libby was making to the grand jury that are the subject of the alleged perjury? If so, did Cheney encourage him to make those statements? One of the blogs that has covered the Libby trial most closely, Fire Dog Lake, has come up with a detailed timeline raising questions about Cheney. I’ve already written that if Cheney won’t address these questions, he should resign.
The questions about Bush are more modest, and there is less circumstantial evidence of his involvement. But there are two items that have come up that do raise questions and demand a response. One is the June 9, 2003 memo (originally classified “top secret”) referring to Bush’s interest in my May 6, 2003 column about Joe Wilson and the Niger uranium caper. Libby discussed this with the Grand Jury, in questionning by Fitzgerald:
Q. does that indicate the President was interested in the State of the Union and the Kristof article?
A. Yes.
Q. And do you recall what the occasion was that, that you came to learn that the President was interested in the Kristof article?
A. I, I don’t. It could be something that somebody said to me that I –it doesn’t mean that I observed it. It may be something someone said to me and I wrote it down.
Q. Any recollection of discussing with the Vice President the interest of the President in the Kristof article?
A. I don’t, I don’t have a recollection of it. [This is discussed in a posting by Crooks and Liars.]
Since June 9 was right when there was a bustle of activitiy in the White House on this issue, you have to wonder whether Bush’s expression of concern or embarrassment wasn’t behind Cheney and Libby’s actions. Or it’s also plausible that Cheney, who was hot under the collar about it, briefed Bush and Bush promptly forgot. But we do have to know which version is the truth. If Bush was behind the furor, that is something the American people deserve to know.
The other item that raises questions about Bush is the note from Cheney that suggests that it was “the Pres.” who asked Libby to take on the Joe Wilson issue with the press. After writing “the Pres.” Cheney crossed out those words and simply used the passive, saying that Libby “was asked to stick his neck in the meat grinder.” But it sure looks as if he started to say that it was Bush that did so. Why? Was Bush behind the campaign against Wilson?
We just don’t know the answers to these questions, and there’s not much point speculating. But when serious questions are raised about the integrity of the White House, the President and Vice President owe us answers.
[Mod Note; as a general rule, we prefer commenters not copy entire articles for copyright reasons. Thanks.]
Was the trial video/audio recorded for posterity so that people might have the chance to see/hear it in the future?
looseheadprop @ 27
I’m glad you were there. Do you have any observations to add?
Dear Firedoglake,
I want to add my deep thanks and appreciation for your great work in doggedly continuing to follow the Plame leak – from the beginning. Since it happened I’ve spent a lot of google time searching for what’s been happening, and now I don’t google anymore, I just go to FDL. My outrage has only been building – for the years it has taken to get to this point. A verdict against Libby won’t quell the outrage. But it does soothe to know that jane and the FDL gang will be there to keep us in the loop. I pray that the 2 more years of darkness will pass quickly and without more war, and even better that the forces of darkness in power now will somehow be fitzed out even sooner…
Thanks for this perspective. It’s my belief that the closest we can get to objectivity is the ability to be in and observing during events, reflective and empathetic in their aftermath.
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Pach – this is a brilliant post. I’ve been waiting for your unique insight since closing arguments on Tuesday, and you didn’t disappoint. I wish we all could have had a Fitz experience first hand, but since we couldn’t we were lucky to have had you, Marcy, Christy and Jane be our eyes and ears.
Thanks.
BTW, I just want to say how amazing the investigation and trial have been. We’ve learned so much about our national government and press (MSM). When the Novak story broke, it could have been anyone in the government who leaked Plame’s name. It could have been anyone or no one . . . . I mean who is to say what Novak might write based on what dubious source. As it turns out his source was Rove, who is pretty high up in the Bush Administration. And of course, Scooter is Cheney’s right hand, as Cheney is Bush’s right hand. OR is it the other way around?
In any event, Fitz has taken us all the way to the White House. It is Watergate all over again with one exception. The then youngish reporter who was lucky and ambitious enough to get at the truth is now working to stifle the truth, just as much of the rest of the MSM is complacent or worse, complicit! THANKS TO FDL FOR SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT. We have come a long way baby thanks in large part to FDL and other seekers of the truth. But the job isn’t over yet. Much work remains. Cheney and then Bush. Impeach Cheney! Indict Cheney!
Pachacutec @
175
Got here late, but since you’re coming back, let me tell you….WOW, that is some fantastic summary you wrote. I have tried to keep my husband, internet-free as he is, informed on the whole trial. But this just had to be printed, no way could I paraphrase it. Beautiful, heart-grabbing…I surely hope this is written into a screenplay someday. It will be way better than “Inherit the Wind”.
balisue @ 231
You might want to consider also perusing the “Plame Threads” on DU – a group of motivated researchers and activists who have studied this case since the day Novak published his column. (nod here to H2OMan, whose lofty rhetoric has illuminated many a clouded mind.)
Ramifications of this particular battle run wide and deep, and I am sure that the principal contibutors on this blog – Christie, Marcy, Jane, Swopa, Pachahutec, et al will tell you that, giants though they have become, they have also benefited from the often argumentative and ocasionally contentious, well-reasoned ideas of others.
Pach, Thanks to all you: Marcy, Swopa, Jane, Christy, and whomever I am forgetting. I’ve mostly lurked from the beginning of the trial. The blogs have been riveting and the language shimmers as it hones more daily to the task of this vital new medium. The videos are such a breath of fresh air and so energizing. With the tension being so high, for the obvious reasons, but also because of the sleep deprivation accompanying this particular blogging experience, today’s two songs, first by Marvin and Tammy and then by Issa as sung by KD Laing just brought on a bath of comforting tears and a vision of our living potential so often overshadowed by peevishness, greed, fear and doubt. I am home. With love, Tom
again my thanks to all of you at FDL for a job well done. Pach, this article is icing on the cake. Cream cheese icing–my favorite! Thanks for putting the little details in that bring out the humanity. Marcy was a wonder typing like a demon and I know when you’re typing like that, you’re focused on the words, words, words.
Thanks again.
clueless @ 106
Um – she happens to be a lawyer who works on Capitol Hill. I don’t think your characterization of her is accurate – and it’s rather insulting to women, in general.
Fitzmas @ 104
That’s right!
I have a story up about Lord Black of Crossharbour over at The Next Agenda.
Just the sort of fill in we’ll want if there is any lag with Round Two in DC.
bionic,
your link’s not working and i’m dying to read about that traitorous piece of merde.
Pach, incredibly awesome post. Thank you for sharing. And again, thanks to Jane, Marcy, Christi, Swopa, and of course again, Pach. And also thanks to the behind-the-seens effort that it took to keep this place working with the huge traffic during the trial.
Phoenix Woman @ 196
Have you ever seen the program hosted by Tony richardson (of Blackadder’s Baldric fame) that searched for the legitimate heir to the throne?
He showed how Edward IV was probably illegitimate due to his father actually being away at war for the critical dates. This made younger brother George the true heir.
He also showed how through the years it seems the seated royals realized this, ie killing off/rendering powerless/ruining socially him and his heirs down through the years, up to Queen Victoria’s day.
The “true” heir is a guy living in Australia who has a title that he never uses and never wanted.
Great show.
chriseee @ 43
OUTRAGEOUS!
moi @ 241
Woah,, that’s a drag!
Here it is.
I agree with dab from CT at 239. Leave Scooter’s wife alone. I remember John Dean’s wife (Maureen?) sitting stoically behind him through his testimony regarding the “cancer in the Whitehouse” as a good wife would. They later divorced. I’m sure this is an ordeal for the entire Libby family. She may come to her own conclusions after the spotlight fades, but right now this is something they just have to get through.
OK Kiddo @ 190
Thanks! That means a lot, from you.
As befitting the style at this wonderful Lake, I do think the various folk express themselves differently over a pretty wide spectrum, but, darn it, it’s working(!)
We have to respect that freedom. Hence I, and no doubt you, make allowances. I trust your judgement on what bothers you.
I just haven’t even tried to decipher what a blurted signal or phrase means to various folk signing on, whereas I do thrive on the enthusiasm. I do think most have their heads screwed on pretty tight, & know which way is fwd.
So, although I share your basic concern, I don’t see particular danger here as long as things perk along at such a wonderfully brisk and yet attentive pace.
Adie @ 134
Adie, you just summed it up perfectly for me, this is why I am a Fitz Fan for real.
looseheadprop @
218
Certainly not me! To me Fitz is incredibly gifted and scrupulous in his work. I was, out of an abundance of caution, mentioning the only time EVER, that I have read a criticism from a credible source. And, I might add, much as I admire Turow as a writer, I long ago dismissed his criticism as not worthy of much concern.
Fitzgerald, in my mind, belongs at the top of wherever HE himself wishes to be in his profession. He’s a rare gift to the world, especially at this point in our troubled times.
emptywheel @
205
Ha! Takes a Smithie to set ‘em straight!
Zhiv said:
I am extremely vexed at the MSM for skipping the reporting on this story and inundating the airwaves with endless speculation about that Anna person. This story is FAR more sexy, what with treason and duplicity at the highest levels of government, and government aparatchiks trying to crush patriotic citizens, and the fourth estate just blundering around and missing the real story.
And dipper said:
That’s probably the only way the rest of us will ever get to see some approximation of what happened in the courtroom. Can’t you just imagine what a delicious line it would be for an actor to shout “Madness! Madness! Madness!”??
2strange @
246
It’s one thing for the spouse of the accused to come to trial to show support; it’s quite another for the spouse to be present when the defense lawyer, in this case Wells, makes a blatant plea to the jury that Scooter has a wife . . . . I don’t recall anyone making a similar plea on behalf of Dean. She can come to court as her husband or her husband’s attorney asked, but when she does so in such a blatant way, she’s part of the story.
Late to the party… I had to finally get some work done for several hours. Madness, madness, madness!
Pach, this is an incredibly interesting and enlightening post. As a few other people mentioned, all of FDLs stars who spent time at the trial and/or provided a lot of insight & analysis really give all of us an incredible visual and verbal picture of the proceedings. It’s truly amazing how each of you have different talents & insights, and you’ve painted a vivid portrait of everything that is important to understand.
Thank you so very, very much.
I’m with grapeshot at 251. This is Watergate all over again. Where’s the freakin press? Maybe Redford can produce a movie on the trial as a sequel of sorts to “All the Presidents Men”. The irony is palpable.
Read and enjoyed the article. Read and enjoyed the comments. Don’t have much to say tonight except I read and enjoyed.
well, ‘enjoyed’ sounds a ‘tad’ too much like entertainment doesn’t it? Perhaps ‘appreciated’ is more appropriate.
Can’t follow all the twists and turns of this case (too many fricken’ details)but sure glad the Firedoglake crew can and does.
It reads like a murder mystery. It is a murder mystery.
‘Mr.Eichman when did you first hear the name Valerie Plame?’
‘I only followed orders.’
legaleze @ 254
Oh Honey. Some of us lived through the 1st school integration nastiness,’Nam AND Watergate. We agonized through the Nixon schlupsh*% & SO much more!
To put it gently, child, YOU and we ARE THE FREAKIN PRESS!
Yes. We old coots & biddies are here too, & still fulla vim & semi-vigor, so you will NOT be alone. If YOU’RE angry, try to imagine how WE feel, having to go through a repeat of all those awful years. Quite simply, it’s a nightmare, revisited & magnified 10-fold, dealing with the present administration.
Stay tuned, eh?! ;->
Pachacutec @
175
Good! Then you can answer this for me: what’s your read of the jury? Which way do you think they’ll jump? And how long do you think they’ll deliberate?
Adie, i was there too. And I remember reading about Watergate in the paper and seeing it on the news. I remember Congressional hearings and John Dean testifying. And the climate during Watergate was much, much different than the climate during the Libby trial. Granted the MSM didn’t get started on Watergate until after the NYT and the WaPo really broke the story, but once that happened, much of the press followed like flies to feces. The stench of Plamegate wreaks, yet the press has lost its sense of smell among other senses. As I said in an earlier post the MSM is complicit in the Plame outing and cover up. That “we are the press” is little solace. Sorry. Not to say we should give up. Hardly. We should yell all the louder, but it is a shame that we have to do the job that the press should do in addition to our own jobs . . . .
legaleze @ 254
The press is hiding in shame. Many of them have been caught in bed with Scooter, Rove, Cheney…
Also, let’s face it – this is a complicated and uninteresting story to the vast majority of the public. If Libby’s convicted, then I expect some of the MSM will get on board with the story – simply because they can focus on “Libby lied under oath and obstructed justice – is Cheney next?” That will be a story they’re happy to speculate on, as Darth Cheney is a good distraction from the complicity and malleability of so many reporters involved in this story.
Dear Eleanor @ #257:
I am Sr. Pachacutec’s runamok pseudo-secretary.
I am instructed to refer all inquiries such as your own to Senor as consistant with a timeframe during which a properly constituted, sworn jury comes forth and presents its findings in just and true form, duly presented to the Hon. Judge Walton, at a future date and time TBA.
Sincerest wishes for your robust health and well-being,
Signed: nitwit in OH
legaleze @ 258
Thanks for pulling me up short from my rant.
Yes, It is very different. Yet, I’m serious in saying “we are the press” – at least for the moment. Ever since I read dear Molly Ivins’ “Shrub” &, thru her, began reading Jim Hightower, I knew things were seriously amok, and that leaves out the craze of the “blue dress”, while newt was running away with our govt.
I have no magic bullet. I do, however, get the strong feeling that FDL & other similarly committed blogs are a powerful force capable of driving the herd of MSM cattle in the right direction, at least for the moment. With corporate structure and priorities being what they are in this day and age, all bets are off, though, without strong citizen action to bring true human/world-environmental-quality values to the fore.
How do we convince the truly short-sighted and greedy that this is one small, interconnected world, and that they MUST learn to [act as if they] care about the consequences of their actions?
Join hands or not, separately and together, here we go, trying to make things better, eh?!
LandOfTheFree, you are probably right. Hiding, yes, I agree. Shame? I doubt those bozos are capable of shame. Embarrassment maybe. I’m wondering if MSM isn’t really “Corporate” media. It’s all about money and advertising. So long as the press gets sufficient readership and advertising revenue, does the press care about journalism, facts or keeping the government honest? So long as they don’t have to reveal their sources and they’re getting paid well . . . .
Adie, I’m on board with your last post. Amen. After the 2000 election and definitely after 2004, I began to tell friends to boycott everything RED. These people understand one thing and one thing only: Money. Hit em where it hurts. That’s what the right wing does. They boycott Disney for god sakes!
Judge John Sirica.
That’s what this case needs to continue the Watergate comparison, assuming that Scooter is convicted.
Sirica–nicknamed “Maximum John” for his sentencing practices, if I recall correctly–had the seven “third rate burglary” suspects from the Watergate break-in in his courtroom, and gave them maximum sentences upon their guilty pleas.
E Howard Hunt, a 50-something ex-CIA spook, turned state’s evidence in the face of what was, for him, a life sentence.
If Scooter gets convicted, and gets told to serve the full 30 years that I have heard bandied about, he might reconsider the errors of his ways, if he has not already.
BFD 2007, I like your thinking.
Swopa @ 120
ooooh, Marcy!
This court case, Fitz’s rebuttal, and FDL’s posts about the Libby trial are historic.
Since it happened during Bush2’s watch, do you think copies of FDL and its PoliticsTV video summaries will be archived at Bush’s Presidential Library?
Is it too much to hope the answer is “yes”?
Even if locked away, out of view, in a specially tagged ‘treat as top secret’ box, it will BE there waiting for any future reader or student of history: the Truth combatting White House lies, and almost all of it captured by the first hand accounts of citizen bloggers.
Just the same, it would be prudent to send a similar collection, as a failsafe back-up, to the Library of Congress and to the Supreme Court.
legaleze @ 262
Heh – shame that they got caught and many of them have been publically embarassed, outed as either knowingly or perhaps unwittingly being PR pressmen for the admin. (You gotta presume that those who didn’t realize what an “easy mark” they were for the admin are terribly embarassed that they didn’t realize they were seen as water-carriers by Cheney and friends. I have a feeling Russert, for example, didn’t realize that the VP thought MTP was a surefire method for getting out the OVPs point of view without any challenge. That’s gotta hurt the pride of lil’ Russ).
I don’t think they’re shameful that they played a part in this – I think they’re shameful that they got caught and publically IDed as shoddy journalists, becoming the official laughing stock of true journalists. ;)
Perhaps I’m an old romantic, but I think a lot of people who go into journalism really DO care about the truth, want to investigate, dream of breaking the big story. Many of them become fat & lazy as they gain fame & fortune. Many truly want to do the right thing for journalism’s sake, but as you mention, they are shackled by their corporate owners. Yes, ad revenue rules… but ad revenue can go up when scandal is portrayed in the media. The big problem is when the corporate interests of the media coincide with keeping controversy quiet. How I wish the media were not controlled by major corporations.
There is an inherent problem that’s been exposed in this story. Journalists need their sources, and if the government is extermely tight-lipped and restrictive to those who don’t play their game, they get no info. I think many in this admin who MIGHT have been willing to normally be a leaker were likely very frightened to do so, precisely because of the lengths it’s clear this admin will go to monitor their own people.
I wonder what will happen if (hopefully) Libby is convicted and if (hopefully) more investigations continue. Will there will be immediate blowback to this admin – people coming out of the woodwork to give info to journalists and investigators? Or, will journalists and sources be even more nervous about their discussions, therefore sealing any potential leaks before the fact?
LandOfTheFree at 268. Thanks for expanding on the kernel of thought in my prior post. Very interesting. I wait with you on the verdict, the fallout and the blowback, if any. It will be very interesting.
Some say that some believe that Patrick Fitzgerald has bigger fish to fry — and in a bigger pan.
(Sealed) vs. (Sealed), anyone?
The MSM is commiting suicide. Their complicity in this Administration, their cowardice and overt lack of curiosity has made them almost irrelevant. Iran is bubbling, the War is a mess, this huge trial has been going on and for a week we get the astranaut, Brittany and Anna Nicole non-stop. I have turned off TV except for Hardball and Countdown, and Hardball and the second half of Countdown often disappoint. (Why won’t they let Olbermann do hard news for an hour?) This post has been fantastic. The depth of coverage makes me think of the real news we used to get in the 60s and 70s.
LandOfTheFree @ 268
I wonder how many in the government and in the press fear Bush is wiretapping them?
Pach, I am really late to the party. This was a great post. Thank you. lolo
Fitz!!!!!!!
WHAT A RIDE!!!
All that ‘fire and damning content’ was not put in evidence during a time when the accused could confront it. All Fitz’s ‘passion’ was thoroughly unconstitutional, and you should have recognized it.
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I am the cows tail-Good job Fitz! and all at Firedoglake.
Did you miss Walton telling the jury to ignore Fitz?
That was the result of the sidebar near the end. Remember? Jeffress objected?
Oh yes, you are not a neutral slate. I feel better.
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I’m reminded of Ahmadinejad’s description of the wide-eyed response of all the UN delegates to one of his speeches. He said that he could tell that they were impressed with the holy fervor with which he spoke.
Now, I’ll try to be gentle here. Could it be that what you felt, P, was the impression amongst those present that Fitz was finally going mad, that the overeaching to try for the certainty he couldn’t prove ultimately blinded him to his abuse of power.
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Kim: Are you lost?
Now let’s let Kim find their way back to wherever they came from…just move along…nothing to see here.
ccmask @ 280
Yup, and in more ways than one.
What is it the wingnuts cry? Oh yeah, all is lost, woe is me!
what a terrific post. in the midst of all that dreck excellence…………..and integrity. thank you for your excellent work.
Kim doesn’t seem to realize that the objection was PURELY to break Fitz’s relentless attack. And judge Walton never told the jury to IGNORE FITZ, he just told them to not go beyond PRECISELY WHAT FITZ SAID…and that was that Libby was told that exposing a covert agent would have serious consequences to National Security and could be a serious crime
…and that went to his state of mind in regards to LYING!
Fitz !!!
Pach.
Thank you.
erh, kim — just a little trial law primer,
here — in summation, the prosecution is allowed
to comment on the evidence entered at
trial. the jurors are free to decide whose
comments they find most resonant. that is how
our system works. the jurors may well be
influenced by arguments — arguments are not
themselves evidence — but that is
the way closing arguments work. . .
far from being un-constitutional, it is
precisely the process our constitution
envisions for criminal proceedings. . .
if you are referring to libby’s choice
not to testify — his 5th amendment rights
are only a shield — not a sword. and, while
fitz, the prosecution, is not allowed to make
negative comments about his refusal to take
the stand in his own defense, fitz is absolutely
allowed to characterize libby’s grand jury
testimony as unworthy of belief, given
the parade of nine witnesses contradicting
almost all of it. by my count, seven of those
witnesses were wholly unimpeached by the
defense.
the constitution contemplates that, in a
fair trial, the truth will out, and a liar
will be found guilty.
a happy friday for the american people.
now, who’s up next? dick cheney.
legaleze @ 258
I think the word you’re reaching for here is “reeks.” The word you used, “wreaks” means to work or cause, as in, “to wreak havoc.”
Pach, I could almost feel the atoms vibrating on the air. Thankyou so much for the incredible visceral description.
Pach. Hope your evening was wonderful.
Apologies, but in your absence, some nit from OH took one of your calls (#260). Hopefully no harm done.
None intended. *g*
The play was very good, though I’m not quite sure how to come to terms with a Richard III as a kind if impish scamp, almost a clown.
The play did, however, lack the punch the courtroom had, not because it wasn’t an excellent production (it was, save for the one playing Richmond), but because it was an artifice, after all. What I saw in court was all too real and immediate.
I’ll never forget it.
Pach, great post and excellent reporting. I can’t wait to read the transcript.
Throughout this trial, your insights into the witnesses, and the defendant, made we wonder what you might think of Libby’s book, The Apprentice (1996). How might you characterize his literary ambitions? I admit a bit of an English Major bias in writing my own take, In Defense of Scooter Libby, a few days ago.
Frankly, I’m surprised more people haven’t talked about what’s actually in this curious book.