Comments on: Late Nite FDL: And One Day, When You LEAST Expect It… http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/ Firedoglake weblog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:11:10 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Christy Hardin Smith http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-517145 Christy Hardin Smith Thu, 22 Feb 2007 23:07:43 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-517145 <p>Boston1775 at 403 — You know, I haven’t had time to read through this thread as yet, but please do not check out of the blog. ALL opinions are welcome here — despite the fact that some commenters occasionally step over the line in advocating their own — so long as they are presented in a polite and forthright way, which you have done throughout the trial coverage.</p> <p>And I, for one, welcome you here. So, please stay.</p> <p>And to everyone else — enough with running around and pointing the troll finger today. The moderators will take care of actual trolls, and they do their jobs very well under the guidelines that Jane and I have established for the blog. Anything above and beyond what they are doing is not something that either Jane or I have sanctioned, and it needs to stop. Capice? Leave the finger pointing to the jerks in the Administration who like to run around shrieking “unpatriotic.” Thanks.</p> Boston1775 at 403 — You know, I haven’t had time to read through this thread as yet, but please do not check out of the blog. ALL opinions are welcome here — despite the fact that some commenters occasionally step over the line in advocating their own — so long as they are presented in a polite and forthright way, which you have done throughout the trial coverage.

And I, for one, welcome you here. So, please stay.

And to everyone else — enough with running around and pointing the troll finger today. The moderators will take care of actual trolls, and they do their jobs very well under the guidelines that Jane and I have established for the blog. Anything above and beyond what they are doing is not something that either Jane or I have sanctioned, and it needs to stop. Capice? Leave the finger pointing to the jerks in the Administration who like to run around shrieking “unpatriotic.” Thanks.

]]> By: Boston1775 http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-517120 Boston1775 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:56:45 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-517120 <p>Thanks Adie,</p> <p>I know you mean this as an insult and you probably think that I hadn’t anticipated it.</p> <p>I appreciate Tim Russert: his work, who he seems to be as a person and the decision he made to talk with the FBI.</p> <p>I am aware that this is not a popular position at FDL.</p> <p>Believe it or not, I appreciate FDL enough to put myself out here.</p> Thanks Adie,

I know you mean this as an insult and you probably think that I hadn’t anticipated it.

I appreciate Tim Russert: his work, who he seems to be as a person and the decision he made to talk with the FBI.

I am aware that this is not a popular position at FDL.

Believe it or not, I appreciate FDL enough to put myself out here.

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516910 Adie Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:12:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516910 <p>too much koolaid?, apologies, but …..</p> <p>[boston1775 = timmeh] </p> <p>/tinfoilhat *sigh*</p> too much koolaid?, apologies, but …..

[boston1775 = timmeh]

/tinfoilhat *sigh*

]]> By: mutzali http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516551 mutzali Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:47:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516551 <p><a href="#comment-516103"><em>spiderpaws @ 315 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>…well I’m off to bed since nobody answered my question about the dog who lost his face in San Jose. I’ll check in tonight to see if mutzali is looking for help. He can leave a message for me here.<br /> Seems like I rounded off the comments to 315!</p></blockquote> <p>Hi Spiderpaws.<br /> I had to get to bed. The people at the Emergency vet clinic said they would see how deep the damage was, and if possible, stitch him up and get him fed, neuter him, and get him out for adoption when he’s well. Apparently they’re connected to the Humane Society for injured strays.<br /> Thanks for asking.</p> spiderpaws @ 315

…well I’m off to bed since nobody answered my question about the dog who lost his face in San Jose. I’ll check in tonight to see if mutzali is looking for help. He can leave a message for me here.
Seems like I rounded off the comments to 315!

Hi Spiderpaws.
I had to get to bed. The people at the Emergency vet clinic said they would see how deep the damage was, and if possible, stitch him up and get him fed, neuter him, and get him out for adoption when he’s well. Apparently they’re connected to the Humane Society for injured strays.
Thanks for asking.

]]> By: Boston1775 http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516483 Boston1775 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:03:58 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516483 <p>And TRex, on behalf of family members I love and a particular teen aged nephew my son is growing up with…</p> <p>THANK YOU</p> And TRex, on behalf of family members I love and a particular teen aged nephew my son is growing up with…

THANK YOU

]]> By: boadicea http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516477 boadicea Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:01:15 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516477 <p>You’re welcome, but I really do need to get back to work. You’re going to have to hit 400 on your own, Boston.</p> <p>Your words:<br /> </p><blockquote>How is talking to the FBI, the first time, evidence of collusion?</blockquote> <p> are what I took to mean you thought I was saying the FBI interview was collusion. If it was not meant that way, you and I are in agreement on this point.</p> <p>And obstruction is a legal concept with very real penalties.</p> <p>As for why he spoke with the FBI, <b>about the information he then claimed First amendment privilege for,</b> that is a question for Timmeh.</p> You’re welcome, but I really do need to get back to work. You’re going to have to hit 400 on your own, Boston.

Your words:

How is talking to the FBI, the first time, evidence of collusion?

are what I took to mean you thought I was saying the FBI interview was collusion. If it was not meant that way, you and I are in agreement on this point.

And obstruction is a legal concept with very real penalties.

As for why he spoke with the FBI, about the information he then claimed First amendment privilege for, that is a question for Timmeh.

]]> By: Boston1775 http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516474 Boston1775 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:59:42 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516474 <p>By obstruction, I mean it as a moral concept.</p> <p>Obstructing the truth.</p> <p>Versus obstructing the law.</p> By obstruction, I mean it as a moral concept.

Obstructing the truth.

Versus obstructing the law.

]]> By: Boston1775 http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516464 Boston1775 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:54:48 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516464 <p>I did not say that speaking with the FBI was collusion. In fact, quite the opposite.</p> <p>Duty to country.</p> <p>Career ending duty.</p> I did not say that speaking with the FBI was collusion. In fact, quite the opposite.

Duty to country.

Career ending duty.

]]> By: Boston1775 http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516460 Boston1775 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:52:23 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516460 <p>Thanks boadicea,</p> <p>If he knew what was properly shielded, as you say, why did he speak with the FBI?</p> Thanks boadicea,

If he knew what was properly shielded, as you say, why did he speak with the FBI?

]]> By: boadicea http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516448 boadicea Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:45:22 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/21/late-nite-fdl-and-one-day-when-you-least-expect-it/#comment-516448 <blockquote><p>I do not think that talking to the FBI is collusion. That is duty to country.</p></blockquote> <p>Yet, that’s what you said about my comment.</p> <blockquote><p>He also happens to be Meet the Press. Thus, lawyers for press will get involved. </p> <p>He’d made his decision concerning duty when he talked. Does anyone think he didn’t understand what all of this was leading to?</p></blockquote> <p>Do you seriously think he did? What do you see his motivation as when he first disclosed, then tried to prevent the public from knowing he disclosed?</p> <blockquote><p>I can’t speak for him, but I am certain that when he spoke with the FBI, he knew that this was enormous and ugly.</p></blockquote> <p>Yet, here you are doing just that. Check the testimony of Agent Bond. </p> <blockquote><p>If he’d called his lawyer and refused to speak with the FBI due to privilege, that would be obstruction.</p></blockquote> <p>You actually don’t have any idea what obstruction consists of, do you? There are lawyers here who can address this better than layperson me, but really, you could hardly be more off point.</p> <p>Once a journalist has breached privilege themselves, refusing to testify to the facts they disclosed in the breach is ludicrous, indefensible, and much closer to obstruction than lawyering up on the initial questioning.</p> <p>Russert was trained as a lawyer, and has been a practicing journalist for decades. He’s the Bureau Chief of NBC’s Washington office, not some neophyte just out of j-school.</p> <p>He knew what was properly shielded and what was not.</p>

I do not think that talking to the FBI is collusion. That is duty to country.

Yet, that’s what you said about my comment.

He also happens to be Meet the Press. Thus, lawyers for press will get involved.

He’d made his decision concerning duty when he talked. Does anyone think he didn’t understand what all of this was leading to?

Do you seriously think he did? What do you see his motivation as when he first disclosed, then tried to prevent the public from knowing he disclosed?

I can’t speak for him, but I am certain that when he spoke with the FBI, he knew that this was enormous and ugly.

Yet, here you are doing just that. Check the testimony of Agent Bond.

If he’d called his lawyer and refused to speak with the FBI due to privilege, that would be obstruction.

You actually don’t have any idea what obstruction consists of, do you? There are lawyers here who can address this better than layperson me, but really, you could hardly be more off point.

Once a journalist has breached privilege themselves, refusing to testify to the facts they disclosed in the breach is ludicrous, indefensible, and much closer to obstruction than lawyering up on the initial questioning.

Russert was trained as a lawyer, and has been a practicing journalist for decades. He’s the Bureau Chief of NBC’s Washington office, not some neophyte just out of j-school.

He knew what was properly shielded and what was not.

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