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Ted's turn again. I suspect we'll get the contrite Ted. But that's just a guess.
Also, I'm using "L&G" as abbreviationg for Ladies and Gentleman. I've included it to give the civilized tone of the discourse. But it's too damn long.
Wells has 50 minutes.
Yup, contrite, calm Ted.
Good Afternoon. I have 50 minutes left to speak to you. I'm going to have to be quick, cut some things about. I was talking about relevancy of meat grinder note. If you look at top part of that note, Libby is saying in his own handwriting that he did not leak classified info. That's a note he gave to the VP of US. He DID. NOT. did not leak classified info. Prosecution played a tape from McC, I say, give me a break. He had to go to Card, McC, then VP. That ain't a team I think he should WANT to be on. They didn't treat him like he should want to be on it.
In terms of time. THe record is very confusing. Russert says he thinks one call. He said call could have been 10, 11, or 12. When interviewed by Eckenrode, possible that there were two calls. Libby always thought two calls. One on 10th and one on 11th. No phone records to nail it down. I'm going to give you homework assignment. I'm going to ask you, if you look at Libby's GJ on March 5, you'll see LIbby's all over the place. if you also read GJ on March 24, there's more discussion. And Fitz on one of those pages, even says is it possible you talked to Rove before, withdrawn, Russert before you talked to Rove. Because I'm telling you what if Rove left early that day. Remember one of the rules. Questions by lawyers are not evidence. THat's just Fitz' question. Maybe he talked to Rove first and Russert second. What you'll see is mass confusion, bc there are no phone records. When you have this kind of confusion, benefit of doubt must be given to Libby.
This case built on theory that does not have hard evidence. They're asking you to speculate.
3:06
There's nothing wrong with circumstantial evidence, it's got to be poweful evidence. it's got to bebuilt on strong foundation if you're going to change someon's life.
I want you to look at GX65, letter from DOJ that says what investigation is about. Says that investigation involved investigation into Novak article, and Newsday. Investigation was about Novak, when it first started, taht that was Libby's state of mind, part of packet from DOJ. This is from highest ranking officials in US. Mr Libby had every right, if given letter, to rely on doggone letter.
I want to go to another area. Want to talk about how the fact that he was very involved in responding to allegations by Wilson, and saying you had to remember what you knew about the wife. THere's a disconnect. Everyone has problems remembering Mrs Wilson. Mrs WIlson did not become important until there was a criminal investigation.
This slide, I developed it with Ms Martin. It's one of the most important pieces of evidence. Contemporaneous on talking points that were developed by OVP. No one could have known criminal investigation. [names the defense exhibits to point to talking point documents.]
Those are the VIce Presidents own talking points that he dictated to Ms Martin. It shows what he was concerned about. I'd ask you to look at each one of those talking points. One of them was after Novak article. She never was part of the story.
I was going to read you some testimony, but I don't have time.
We do not dispute that Ms Martin on or abotu June 11 told Libby about the wife. Libby told FBI from day one that he learned about it. If you put Fleischer to the side, and Mr Addington, all the other witnesses cluster around the same day. [Um, and Judy judy judy? and You've put Mr Unitary Executive aside???]
Nobody is disputing that there's a period in June that Libby knew Mrs Wilson worked at FBI. He brought note. Like Mr Jeffress said, if he's such a bad guy he should have put the note in the trash can. He said he looked at note and refreshed recollection.
Govt tried to put cloud over VP Cheney. During questioning of Ms Martin. We'll you weren't with Mr. Libby all the time. Somethings could have happened while you weren't there. The clear implication was that there was skullduggery. That's unfair on teh facts of this case. Scooter Libby wasn't out pushing stories on the wife. Look at output side.
Faces of journalists. Best proof.
We brought in EVERY reporter. [except Mitchell] We didn't bring in Mitchell, she's in GJ he said he didn't say anything. [And also David Martin]
The only person who said libby told her, I don't think it happened. She's got a note that says WINPAC. She didn't work at bureau. Bureau, taht's a state department. She's got bad information. When these people leaked, tehy said wife works at CIA. She got the word bureau, which is inaccurate, and WINPAC which is inaccurate. Mr Libby had no intention to give bad information. He didn't leak to anybody.
Prosecution focused on July 8 meeting. They say, Mr. Libby, how if he was so busy to take two hours to have lunch with Miller on July 8, the reason he took two hours is taht Libby understood VP of US had directed, and President, President Bush behind it too. Not to say anything about Valerie Wilson, but to discuss info that Bush had privately, lawfully declassified concerning.
[Text says, "Libby was sent on a secret mission to discuss the NIE ... it had nothing to do with Valerie Wilson"]
3:17
The notion that he goes, it's basically a secret mission that VP and Libby know, somehow they try to make something bad about that.
It is outrageous. [Good to see outraged Ted back. I missed him.]
Told you two parts to Russert charge. Part one, what RUssert said to Libby. When Libby spoke with Tim Russert, Libby was surprised. Part two focuses on Libby's state of mind, when Libby was being interviewed by FBI, or GJ in March. Doesn't have anything to do with what happened in real time. What he has said to FBI, I thought I was surprised. There's no evidence that says if he says he was surprised, he did it as a lie.
WRT that part, of the Russert count, that deals with the surprise. Did Libby lie to FBI, when he said he was surprised to learn that Wilson's wife worked at CIA. The question was what did he believe in October 2003, March 2004. Testimony by govt witnesses about conversations does not answer question whether he lied in October 2003. They put 7-8 witnesses on the stand, that say we had conversations in June or July. Not one said anything about whether LIbby had a misrecollection, or what LIbby lying. Those witnesses can't help you in material way. They haven't given you witnesses. [No wonder Libby didn't take the stand.] We misrecollect things, it happens to everyone. It has happened to everybody. Now, I tried to display graphically, just how you ought to think about it. If you put witnesses on your left.
[Graphic saying, "The question is not what Scooter Libby remembered here" "But what Scooter Libby remembered HERE, 3 months later" With big red arrows]
They've got to give you powerful evidence of him lying. THere's just a huge evidentiary gap. THey've got no witnesses concerning his state of mind, in October. There's no smoking gun document. No expert testimony that he could not have forgotten.
Libby could have made an innocent mistake in October. He doesn't have to prove that he made an innocent mistake. They havent' given you ANYTHING. They're asking you to speculate. They have no evidence that he thought something happened one way and it happeend another.
Fitz has hand face in hand, watchin, Ted is right close to him.
Of all the documents Libby had, he only had one note dealing with the note, it shows she was not important. It's easy to forget what he knew then. But also he had hundreds of other notes. Mr Addington told you Libby had hundreds and hundreds of pages of notes. That was his lifeline. He knew how to have mnemonic devices to support him, he had notes, and his staff. He's not stupid, man, I support myself with my notes, and my staff's recollection. THey say, no, criminal situation works a different way.
Wells goes to memory instruction. Tries to give you guidance. on whether LIbby made good faith effort to remember. Some of the things judge Walton points to, ask yourself if you've been in situations where you've had a high stress jobs. Libby, we've learned he had one of the highest stress jobs in the country [except for the men and women he sent to Iraq, whom, I guarantee you, are under a hell of a lot more stress] Any evidence related to memory.
Instruction highlighed with: life experiences, amount of itme between when a person said or heard something, circumstances that existed when person was exposed to the events. The nature of things. Circumstances that existed when person asked to recall. Circumstances between time and when that person asked to recall. Assessment of memory capacity. [the stuff below is Ted's expansion on these ideas on memory--from here to the line]
Hannah told you all the things he had to do in terms of terrorism, homeland security. Those security briefings, it makes your toes curl. Put things in context. Give him benefit of doubt. And ask, what did govt give me that gives me certainty, they haven't given anything. anything.
"The wife" was not important. [I thought we trained you off of that, Ted] Nobody cared at OVP, go to State and talk to Armitage, that might be a different thing, talk to Ari, talk to Rove, that might be different thing, the evidence is to the contrary, "the wife" was never part of the message.
During this entire period, country at war, in Iraq, Afghanistan, with ourselves. He's being bombarded with Blizzard of info, every day, 6 days a week.
Hannah said he did not have good mind for certain kinds of things. THey develop systems to remember this.
This courtroom became a laboratory on memory problems. I submit they had problems bc Mrs Wilson had not become that important. Libby had different job than anyone who testified. Hannah said he had two jobs.
Fitz asked how you could have said to Ari and forgot it in two days. [highlights a Martin quote, back when they said that conversation happeend leak week, "I don't mean to say I forgot it in two days. I'm saying she didn't tell me that."--this is not applicable, but Ted tries to argue again, that the "surprise" thing is relevant only in October.
Ted goes through Grenier, Grossman, Miller, Schmall. to show how people don't remember.
3:35
For people who have been married for many years, it is so common to have an argument about what happened in the past. Maybe you even had notes, showing that you were wrong, but you felt it and felt it with confidence. No difference from Tim Russert who was confident until he saw a note. Why's Mr Libby being treated different?
Now shows initial and later recollections of Grenier, Martin, Miller, Grossman, and Schmall. [not all of these are accurate]
She forgot a whole month. She wasn't lying. She realized what she had said.
Mr. Libby's memory system. [how is he able to introduce this??]
One of you jurors asked a great question–how did Libby do his job?
Answer is Libby had a system. What LIbby told GJ is to cope, he pooled collective recollections together. Backbenchers, always take one person whose job is repository of information. That person to take notes.
Libby took hundreds and hundreds of pages of notes.
In red: THere is an inherent conflict between Libby's memory system and a criminal investigation. Libby should not be penalized for having a different memory from the investigators.
Wells says LIbby should not be penalized for having a different mnemonic system, that worked for the specific job he had to do, which was to be NSA for VP.
[Playing GJ testimony on memory.]
Walton: Five minutes
Wells To extent what he remember turned out to be a mistake that doesn't mean he was a liar, it means he misrecollected. He had a system, it made him a good NSA to VP.
What Hannah told you was LIbby had two full time jobs. 13-14 hour day. [Hey Good News, working poor working two jobs are excused from ever telling the truth!!] 4 meetings by mid-morning. Often one, two NSC meetings in a row. SHows a briefing, he got that six days a week. Try to think about how that might impact your memory. Just be fair.
What I have up here, you'll get it all from stipulation, or what Hannah said. During this whole period, you had a major crisis. [so WTF were you spending 6 hours a day dreaming up a response to Wilson] All this in addition to being sent to St Regis by VP to respond to Wilson.
"At this time, the wheels were falling off the Bush Administration" And then you talk, dude, what do you remember about Valerie WIlson.
Shows this WACKY graphic of his "world" including OBL, and Saddam, Cathie Martin and so on.
Now, LIbby got a number of things wrong in GJ
- He said he told COoper.
- He said he told Kesslert
- He didn't know Wilson's name until Wilson's op-ed
- Had no recollection of talking to Novak during week of July 6
Remember alot of this stuff, taken place, in 8 hours of GJ, it's unfair to expect him to remember exact words. That comment, "I don't know if he has a wife, that comment was made months later, in March 5 session. More homework. First time ever he says he doesn't know if he ever said he doesn't have a wife. He's reconstructing, what happens when you reconstruct, is that you can be all over the place. That's what people do. Witness after witness.
Use your common sense and life verdict. Common sense will tell you not established verdict. How much time.
Walton:5 minutes.
Ted is rushing through one after another slide. He's done about 10 slides in the last 3 minutes. See I almost made it, I did make it.
I told you that when we chose you, we alread made the most important decision. For some of you this will be the most important decision you will ever make. Trust in the evidence and trust in each other. Be protector, if somebody begins to go off track and have a situation where Libby has to prove innocence, help that person, if someoen says, "he's a Republican, he worked for Cheney, let's just do him," help that person.
Don't sacrifice Scooter LIbby for how you may feel abotu war in Iraq or Bush Administration. Treat him the way he deserves to be treated. He worked every day to be NSA for this country. Analyze it fairly. Fight any temptation for your views if you're Democrat whatever party. This is a man who has a wife kid. He's been under my protection for the last month. Just give him back. Give him back to me, give him back.
[Wells gets all choked up, crying.]
Okay, we're going to take a break.
Related posts:
- Cheney’s Betrayal Made an IIPA Charge for Libby Possible
- Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, and the “Unremarkable” Meat Grinder
- Hung Out to Dry: One Former VP Chief of Staff
- The Taxpayers Paid Dick Cheney’s Personal Defense Attorney to Obstruct Any Inquiries Into His Crimes
- The Bush Fairy Tale on the Libby Pardon





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Fitz?
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If he has 50 minutes left, does that mean Fitzgerald will be partly or all tomorrow?
It’s at best unknown whether Libby leaked classified info. He’s not charged with leaking in part because his lies obstructed investigators from figuring out what really happened.
Marcy interview at Raw Story up.
Whoo Hoo! Way to go Marcy!
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Chewbacca!! If confused are your wits, you must acquit!!!!!
About the end of ew’s last bit of live-blog on the prior thread:
So everyone oohed and aaaahed the “correction” of Cooper’s notes into what Libby wants them to mean, rather than what Cooper says they mean? That’s a little scary.
Didn’t Zeidenberg say that Cooper DID take Libby’s remarks as a confirmation of what Rove had told him? Why is Wells saying that Cooper did not take it as confirmation? Because he didn’t rush into print?
Enuf already with these bozos. I needs me a fitz fix. Rebut ‘em hard, Pat.
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Can anyone offer an opinion of the demeanor of the jurors? Any observations about them would be appreciated.
litigatormom @
6
It’s the Puppy Dog Eyes Defense! “Wookit widdle Scooter-Wooter, he’s sooooo pitifuuullll…”
Prairie Sunshine beat me to it with the super short rules of the road! :)
How much time has Fitz’ team used? They didn’t use up their 3 hours already, did they?
And this is gonna be the LONGEST 50 minutes of the trial! ughhh
Can opposing attorneys object during closing arguments?
twolf1 @ 12
We pups work best together, eh?
Will the jury recognize that Wells is defending Libby against charges that aren’t included in the indictment? If I were on the jury, I’d conclude he’s trying to confuse the issue because he can’t defend his client against the charges that are in the indictment.
Is it just me, or is the Defense Team deliberately and pointedly avoiding the name “Plame”, referring to Valerie as “Wilson” instead?
Yup gov’t asking people to speculate on events that are very plausible and reasonalbe as say what the defense is asking you to speculate about…mainly they want the jury to believe that Schmall, Harlow, Martin, Grenier and his own notes tell us that Libby learned and heard specifically in June of 2003 (wilson wife worked at the cia) somehow doesn’t contradict with his version of the testimony he gave to the fbi and gj(because they claim Russert’s credibility is shot) that the first time Libby surprisingly heard about Wilson’s wife or that Mr. Wilson was even was married was in a July 10 phone call and that means Libby is somehow innocent of all charges. I don’t think so….
No one could have known that airplanes…could destroy levees and flood NOLA…could-ah, should-ah….
Bushspeak strikes again.
I thought that the judge ruled Valeries’ covert status inadmissable?
The defense is asking the jury to believe that each of the prosecution witnesses is wrong, therefore Libby is right. The thing is, it’s not a matter of “each one is wrong”. It’s what the prosecution’s summation said: In order to believe that Libby told the truth, you have to believe that EVERYBODY ELSE is lying. What are the odds?
Wells’ says: ….”There’s nothing wrong with circumstantial evidence, it’s got to be poweful evidence. it’s got to bebuilt on strong foundation if you’re going to change someone’s life.”
snip
could have been written by a vateran….
MEC @ 21
Also, given that this is a perjury trial, the defense is asking the jury to believe that witnesses think that perjury isn’t the sort of thing that ends you up… in the dock.
Balrog @ 14
Yes, but it uncommon, must be severely provoked.
I don’t get the argument that Libby didn’t know when he first was interviewed and testified that the investigation was about more than Novak. Fitz showed it clearly was beyond that at the time, by going over the document subpoenas.
Next time I get indicted for perjury, obstruction of justice, and false statements to the FBI (and you’d think it wouldn’t keep happening to me, wouldn’t ya) – I’m hiring Jeffress, not Ted Wells.
This isn’t going to be a one-hour deliberation folks.
MEC @
21
Assume 7 witnesses, each with a 10% chance of being wrong. The probability, then, of ALL of them being wrong is 0.1 raised to the 7th power, or one in 10 million.
What text is this?
Prairie Sunshine @ 8:
Keep it short.
Keep it on topic.
Don’t feed the trolls.
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We like
Your ditty.
“THere’s a disconnect. Everyone has problems remembering Mrs Wilson. Mrs WIlson did not become important until there was a criminal investigation.”
Wasn’t she the cause of the criminal investigation? And didn’t EVERYBODY in the entire world know about her (except for Scooter, who knew, but forgot, then remembered again)?
I don’t understand this point at all. Is the defense trying to say that Mrs. Wilson was unimportant?
Assumes independent events?
Is this a typo or more obfuscation?
MEC @
21
Not really you just have to believe that they all can’t remember.
merciless @ 29
Yeah, you know, she might not have really been covert, after all, Libby didn’t know/think she was covert, the CIA referral was sort of general, and since she might not have been covert, who would have ever thought that lying to the FBI or the GJ could get anyone in trouble?
It’s kinda like, you know, lying about a blow job by M in a case that doesn’t relate to a relationship with M. …. Oh….right….
WTF? Didn’t Libby say he didn’t know it (CIA not FBI), even though he found a note where he found out he did know it.
Politburo @ 30
Yeah, also, just an attempt to hang some numbers on what is, in the end, a very subjective probabilistic process. Simplistic in a way, but to some degree illustrative. The jury only has to believe that ONE anti-Libby witness is telling the truth, too.
Two things … what is now going on?? Is Wells killing time so as to speak on the same day (tomorrow) as Fitz??
And, couldn’t we be told why there is a delay and some estimate of when things will resume?? I’m hitting the re bittion too frequently and am TRYING to hold off… I’m also dieting and trying to stay away from the goodies!! Please advise.
When I sat on a jury, by the time the closing arguements started, I basically had my mind made up. Then when the closing arguements were said, I could see all the holes in that arguement. Although the cases I have sat on weren’t this complex, if you follow along, you can reinforce your opinion as to guilt. I wonder if any of these jury people are doing that.
Because what could possibly be wrong with selectively leaking bad intel to a journalist who had reliably leaked bad intel in the past?
So, even though the judge pretty much stated that the defense could not introduce the “bad memory” defense if Libby himself did not testify, they went ahead and did it anyway…. In the closing argument?
roux @ 32
And for each of them not remembering (or lying), they each would need to make up their own story about what Libby said, etc.
That’ll go over real big. [/snark]
Wow. It’s the Libby Hive Mind defence! “We are the Liborg, resistance is futile, you will be…? We forgot.”
Balrog @ 14
Yes they can object but at their peril of a federal judge “objecting” back and pushing back.
But Libby testified to the GJ that he was very clear about his reaction to the Russert “disclosure.” This was not a simple claim that “I forgot about the conversations I had with 9 people about something that Cheney told me in June.” Libby testified that he couldn’t have talked about Plame to the 9 people because sometime shortly after Cheney first told him, he forgot what Cheney told him, and learned about Plame from Russert a month later “as if for the first time.” Not that it refreshed his recollection that “oh yeah, I knew that!”
If Libby had simply said “I don’t remember, sitting here in October, whether I talked to reporters in June or July, it would have been very hard to charge him with perjury.”
But Libby wanted an ALIBI that would stop all further questioning. So he came up with the “I forgot that I knew, and therefore couldn’t have had talked to anyone, much less 9 people.”
That’s perjury.
egregious @
28
Tanks for the laughing fitty…
Three minutes to refresh.
cathy @ 37
That was my experience as well – it’s human nature.
looks like fitz has plenty of fodder for his rebut
I would really like him to bring it home with the ramifications that this abstruction presented to our country and our national security
songs for the jury …
‘Watch out now, take care
Beware of soft shoe shufflers..’
Don’t know about you, but T. Wells is starting to work my very last nerve.
I’m pretty sure Wells made a big deal out of Fitzgerald having to do his wrap-up on the same day, so he wouldn’t be doing it all by himself tomorrow (too easy for the Jury to forget all the good points Wells is making today (snark). So we should hear from Fitzgerald today (that’s why time is being watched so closely)
Libby’s lawyers say some weird things about Libby and his notes–that he had no notes, that he had only one note, and that, if he was a bad guy, he’s would’ve trashed his one note–and Wells then repeats this: he could’ve trashed his note.
Is this a wise thing to be planting in the jury’s minds–that maybe Libby got rid of some notes?
—–
“I guess if he were the dishonest person the govt thinks he is, he would have ditched that note, if he were that kind of person.” –Jeffries
“Libby has no notes. He has exactly one note. The one he brought to FBI. He’s got no notes about the July 8 conversation or anything else.” –Jeffries
“Like Mr Jeffress said, if he’s such a bad guy he should have put the note in the trash can.” –Wells
—–
Wells mentions there are no phone records. Anybody know why there are no phone records, of who Libby talked to and when?
LaFourmiRouge @ 45
I had a similar experience. OTH, there were a couple of jurors who were confused enough by the defenses arguments (we convicted in the end) but what became really clear was that they could not really argue their point very well. We spent a lot of time going through the testimony so that the two confused jurors could be convinced. Most of us were pretty clear that it was an open and shut case, even though we ended up deliberating for about 7 hours (which was a pretty long time for a pretty simple case).
I was under the impression that both sides were explicity informed not to discuss whether or not Valerie Plame was covert.
Why is it being woven into the defense closing? Isnt that against the rules?
Actually, Fitz didn’t have to give them CERTAINTY. He had to give the jury evidence beyond a REASONABLE doubt, not any and all possible, speculative doubts.
Wells’ defense seems to be, “who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes? Isn’t it possible that your eyes are lying?”
Wells claims, “They’ve got no witnesses concerning his [Libby’s] state of mind, in October.” What about Libby’s GJ testimony?
Pathetic closing. Good god. And wasn’t Condi Rice NSA during the period that Wells sobbingly describes Irving as NSA? WTF?!
litigatormom @
43
I’ll run that up to Fitz. I believe it’s about all we’ll need.
Wow, if you haven’t refreshed, do so. Wells made a VERY unconvincing show of being choked up at the end.
So…we can’t put him in jail because he has a wife and kids.
And nice touch having the wife and kids right there.
That defense works so well for other people.
hychka @ 36
picked a lousy day to give up drinking/smoking/goodies/whatever!
must.resist.refresh
>For people who have been married for many years, it is so common to have an argument about what happened in the past. Maybe you even had notes, showing that you were wrong, but you felt it and felt it with confidence
OH GAG! You can’t be serious-Wells was actually getting all choked up???
wells gets all choked up, crying? jeez.
“i’d like to thank the academy”
Wells, you SUCK. That is SO sleazy, so transparent.
_
Wells just really insulted the jury there.
Wow.
In my experience, in a jury there are usually 1 or 2 very articulate and patient people who can and do coach the stragglers along in their reasoning.
And once again, as in his opening – it is all about Ted.
Andrew Sullivan gives kudos and chops to FDL Libby liveblogging.
“Don’t miss Firedoglake’s coverage of the prosecution’s summation: here and here. They really have shown what bloggers can do, and my hat is off to them.”
-GSD
conniptionfit @ 60
He has done it credibly in the past, according to some who have seen him in the past. This time, he was so rushed because he had gone over his time, it was totally unconvincing. He literally went from memory memory memory to one big choke up.
He’s been under my protection for the last month. Just give him back. Give him back to me, give him back.
Did he REALLY say this? OMFG.
[Mod Note; let’s keep the references to violence out of the live blog comments please.]
Mandos @
41
Apparently followed up by the “Lead Attorney is a Weepy Drunk, Please Let Scooter Off So Ted Can Stop Crying in His Beer” Defense…
OMG! Why didn’t you warn us, EW?! :::Where is that dang barf bag!!:::
;o)
Let’s try this again.
Mr.Wells said above:
For people who have been married for many years, it is so common to have an argument about what happened in the past. Maybe you even had notes, showing that you were wrong, but you felt it and felt it with confidence
Mr. Wells, my husband and I (married fourteen years,) don’t typically sit at the breakfast table and argue over which one of us outed a CIA NOC.
-S
WHOOOOSH….KABOOOOOOM
The sound you hear is the sound of litigatormom’s head imploding. Head implosion is so much easier to clean-up than head explosion, she highly recommends it.
crying? wells was crying? why, that’s so beautiful and sensitive!!!
Did anyone see my violin?
EW–
So is it safe to say he won’t be winning any Academy Awards?
I mean, come on, the jury will see right through that kind of blatant emotional manipulation. You know, scooter should have ditched Wells long ago and just stuck with Jeffress. His summation was much more effective IMHO.
Wells chokes up, starts crying?
They teach this in law school?
well, Ted Wells did use the word ‘drunk’ in his first couple of sentences in closing. If he wasn’t then, he will be tonight.
I still don’t understand what happened to Walton’s admonition not to introduce the memory defense if Libby didn’t testify himself. How’d they get away with that being about the only thing in the closing argument?
So what about Condi? Guess she really is just window dressing.
Well at least he didn’t stick a graphic of Osama and Obama up there together. Cathie is much more appropriate.
“This is a man who has a wife kid”
Yes, like many of the U.S. soldiers who have died in the war as a result of the lies told by Libby, Cheney, Bush et al. . .
Maybe it’s just me but this seems to me to be a bad tactic. Don’t find him guily because he has a kid? If I were on the jury I would in terpret that as a sign of desperation.
Wells: Not only is Scooter a great American who has been wronged by an out of control prosecutor, he also has bad breath, a wry neck and an extraordinarily small penis.
Have pity on him.
-GSD
I still need someone to answer:
Did Judge rule that Valeries’ covert status was inadmissable or not?
I stockpiled plenty of barf bags in advance of this waaaaaaaaaaaaaahing.
‘ere, Terre!
LaFourmiRouge @ 64
I mentioned this over in gabbler. I was on e of two jurors to vote for conviction in a lengthy, difficult trial. Its exactly as you describe. It took six days, but eventually every other juror was won over.
It turned on one thing that the two of us picked up on that shot the whole defense strategy to heck. Don’t know how articulate or pateient we were. Rather just strongly convinced of his guilt in a heinous crime. We were not going to leave that room without a conviction.
Did the jury bust out laughing when Wells started to cry? Or just roll their eyes?
Wells: “Treat him the way he deserves to be treated”
He deserves to be in jail. Let’s hope the jury puts him there.
LM@72 – best comment, ever ;-)
ccmask @ 73
The violin was really tiny.
I think Wells stepped on it.
Oh, and I’m SO glad partisan politics are being kept out of this. “If you are a Repub/Dem” is unbelievable.
zeppo @ 78
Exactly. And how no crime was really committed cause she wasnt covert. What a crock. Over the line with a wink and a nod once again. I cant stand it.
Don’t Cry For Me Irvingteama…
conniptionfit @ 83
As far as I know inadmissable and irrelevent.
How does Wells get to introduce the “memory system” in his closing argument? They have not introduced any of that into evidence!
You like me! You really, really like me! I don’t THINK so! What a maudlin way to end. So dramatic.
emptywheel @
56
Are you serious? Can you run things up to him?
Is this really the smoking gun?
Wells wasn’t crying, he was tearing up due to the overwhelming smell of bullshit in the courthouse.
-GSD
I was under the impression that both sides were explicity informed not to discuss whether or not Valerie Plame was covert.
Why is it being woven into the defense closing?
Because Wells knew he couldn’t get away with holding up Saturday’s Op-Ed page of the Post.
I’m surprised one of the Manson Girls – er, I mean, Barbara Comstock – didn’t do it when the jury filed in today, though…
Ya’ know, I was all set throughout this trial to be very impressed with Wells and I am not. I find his closing statements particularly dramatic and unmoving and empty. (Of course, he didn’t have much to work with, I suppose.)
Wtf…crying/choked up?? what was the reaction in the courtroom among the jury, libby, others? A bit over the top..no?
They got nuttin if they are pullin the emotional triggers to get him off…but I spose that is the only thing they might have.And I agree with the commenter that said it’s a bit insulting.
conniptionfit @ 81
I’m waiting for that answer as well
[Wells gets all choked up, crying.]
Please tell me this is just snark.
PLEASE!!!
lol eureka.
Were any of the jurors spotted doing the “Joan Rivers gag” motion?
-GSD
Peace Patriot @
50
That’s the first image that came to mind: SCOOTER’S SHREDDING PARTY!
conniption—but there’s some reference to her status in the Grenier testimony if memory serves. Ooops not supposed to mention memory in the defense section :)
Is Mrs. Strip Search Sammy in the courtroom showing Wells how it’s done? geeeezzzz
Wells: “First time ever he says he doesn’t know if he ever said he doesn’t have a wife. He’s reconstructing, what happens when you reconstruct, is that you can be all over the place. That’s what people do.” “Reconstructing”? A rose by any other name. . . . .
So, if Valeries’ covert status was ruled inadmissable, how did Wells get away with bringing it up over and over, as if it had anything to do with the case and Libbys guilt or innosence?
conniptionfit @ 83
He ruled it inadmissible for the truth of the matter. However, reference could be made to it to show Libby’s state of mind, i.e., was he motivated to lie because he was concerned that he might be investigated/charged on IIPA violation.
Muzzy @
77
After that performance? he might need a bottle
new thread upstairs
I know I’m not supposed to refresh and refresh but I can’t stop laughing after I thought I’d gag reading Marcy’s last bit. Litigatormom, you made my afternoon. Thank gosh I’m alone in the office today.
Wells rushed emoticon is a new low for the defense.
beth meacham @ 92
Yeah, what’s up with that? Scooter used mnemonics?
There’s some HS mixed in with the BS and a whole lotta blood from innocents, GSD @ 95.
I’ve had my biosuit on all day and my hipwaders along with my barf bags (from JetBlue)
“He has a wife and kids.” “Give him back to me(? WTF)” and he’s sobbing?
Oh gag me with a spoon. Puulleeeaaasse.
What about Joe Wilson. He has a wife and kids too.
Who lost her job and who was put in danger because of Libby.
Jeebus.
He had thousands of other notes, but only produced one related to this. That doesn’t look good, it looks inconsistent on his part, considering the number of people he discussed the matter with. Addington? Gonzo? 86?
litigatormom @ 71
I must keep the implosion idea in mind for when I get home to watch the nightly news.
Delilah Boyd @ 104
For what it’s worth, let’s not forget that a truck from a D.C. area paper shredding company was seen and documented at the VPs residence in October 2006… I’m just sayin’!
Litigatormom: How can they introduce evidence about Libbys state of mind when Libby didn’t get up to testfy about his state of mind?
snuffy @ 109
Wells will be shaving his head tonight and checking into rehab tomorrow! LOL
I can’t resist;
wells is acting like libby’s lover?
“give him back to me”?
joysness (116) — oh, exactly, been thinking that the couple of times it’s come up.
“This is a man who has a wife kid.”
And Valerie and her two little ones were just so much disposable chopped liver, and the Constitution is nothing but a gawddemned piece of paper.
Isn’t that a line from a movie with Tom Hanks? You can’t cry in a federal court building if you’re the lawyer?
someone get the hook and drag Teddy off stage! That performance really stunk.
Brewster Jennings was probably who caught Altanmia(a company Marv Bush was on board of, and who has the KBR gasoline contract for Iraq wrt American Military).
Altanmaia was stopped at the Kuwaiti border with banned WMD and their precursors falsely labeled as NGO material including mislabeled Red Cross materials…
altanmia mining
marvin bush board member
wmd shipment to iraq after we invaded; turned back in Kuwait at the border to Iraq to the Kuwait side it was coming from…
that is who Brewster outed…
Cheney was trying to stage a false flag through a company AWOL’s bro ran that had the fuel import contract for our military in Iraq.
Outing Plame was his revenge even more in that sense. Re: Iran, it was preemptive(somtime this month you will see).
legaleze @ 107
Rule Number One of Witness Preparation: DON’T RECONSTRUCT.
Believe it or not, many times witnesses attempt to reconstruct a memory because they are trying to be helpful. Or they are embarrassed to have forgotten something that they think they should remember. “I’m a big master of the universe investment banker/CEO/hedge fund manager, it will sound stupid if I don’t remember.”
I always tell witnesses not to try to reconstruct something they truly don’t remember, because it can get them tripped up on another point. Pretty soon you are reconstructing to reconcile the reconstruction, etc.
So if Libby truly did not remember, in October 2003, that he had talked to 9 different people about “the wife” between June 11 and July 12, he should have said, “I don’t remember.” Period. Then, if Fitz showed him evidence that he DID talk to various people, he could say, “Oh, NOW I remember, this refreshes my recollection.” Or he could say (if it was true), “No, I see that memo, but it does not refresh my recollection. I am not saying so and so is wrong, but I just don’t remember.” Very hard to prosecute this as perjury or obstruction or false statements.
It’s the elaborate “reconstruction” — clearly designed to give Libby a virtual “alibi” against having told reporters anything — that is screwing him up.
By the way, see how quickly I was able to repair the brain damage from head implosion? It really does work better than head explosion. I’d still be cleaning the computer monitor if I let my head explode ….
Frequently heard sobbing in Baghdad, “Give him back to me, Give him back to me”…they have husbands, wives, and children too..
What on earth was Wells thinking?
Man, doesn’t that beat all? It makes me ashamed to be a lawyer when someone of Ted Wells’ ‘prestige’ gets all soap opera (or should I say Oprah?)on us.
conniptionfit @ 120
Walton said they could introduce evidence that he was busy, but he ruled inadmissible evidence that Libby would have placed more importance on things other than “the wife.” But it seems to me that Wells’ violated that ruling when he asked the jurors to put the issue about “the wife” into the context of ALL the things he was doing. He’s asking the jury to find that the other stuff was more important than “the wife.” Fitz must have decided not to object, but to address it in his rebuttal.
Fitz grabbed Wells’s cuddly stuffed Libby bear right out of Wells’s hands. Wells, stunned and whimpering, walked over to the jury box. Now Wells is tearfully asking the jurors to make Fitz give Wells’s Libby bear back. “He’s my bear. Give him back to me. Give him back to me.”
What does he mean by Libby being under his protection for the last month? Does he mean physical protection or what?
perris @
122
Am feeling the same itch…
Wells, Gannon and Libby
sitting in a tree …
OH-OH-OH – I-N-G
off to a spanking
Give him back? Just what America needs back. A high-ranking government official working on issues of national security with an admitted faulty memory problem. I don’t want him back. Give him to someone else.
moe99 @ 129
wells reputation is going to rest on this because he’s not going to be able to say libby was guilty and that’s why he lost
if wells loses his becomes nothing
“He’s been under my protection for the last month. Just give him back. Give him back to me, give him back.”
That sounds so eerily familiar! Where have I heard those poetic tones before?
Oh. Right.
“Out West, where you vacation, the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them. Come back to work – and life.”
I say leg irons. Put him under the protection of the warden.
On to the next one. Time’s a wastin’
Peace Patriot @ 50
And Fitz pointed out that there were no emails recovered from Libby. Libby said “I’m not an email sorta of guy…at least in this job.” Hmmmmm! The guy seems to live in a practically recordless world. No paper trail for either history or prosecutors to follow.
Aaaargh @ 68
Well perhaps Wells should apply for a job in the Federal Penitentiaries. Then Libby can be placed under his protection for a good twenty years!
Terre @ 70
Well that might explain the Aspens comment…Wells and Libby and Judt are all attached at the roots…they are one Borglike communal neo-Con fungal colony that feels each others pain and mental states!
zeppo @ 78
Well’s FORGOT…see it proves that people can easily lose their memory about such insignificant things….
….like a FAIR TRIAL!
Sparkles the Iguana @ 80
Defense Closing Argument Slide #224
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