
Gary Kamiya has an interesting piece in Salon about what Right Wing water-carriers call "Bush Derangement Syndrome".
Feb. 20, 2007 | Hating George W. Bush sometimes feels like a full-time job. I get up in the morning, open the paper, and it's Bush World. His ruinous handiwork is all over the place, whether it's Putin threatening to start a new Cold War, another Neanderthal anti-Enlightenment skirmish in the U.S. or some fresh hell in Baghdad. I turn on the TV and there he is, uttering reality-averse platitudes while mangling the English language in his best frat-boy twang. And then there's the Internet, where my bookmarked band of rhetorical assassins stir facts and commentary about his wretched tenure into a damning cocktail that I happily imbibe.
"Rhetorical assassin"? I like that. Can I get it on a t-shirt?
But this is all going to change. Pretty soon, we won't have Bush to kick around anymore.
Yo, G. I don't know if you noticed, but there's a whole two years between now and then, so it isn't going to be that goddamn soon. The Reich Wing can do a lot of damage in two years. Nonetheless, the notion of the party that we are going to throw (if we're not all radioactive or infected with super-drug-resistant e coli) when they kick that mental midget and his handlers out on their fat, criminal, proto-fascist asses, well, that is kind of a pleasant thought.
If form holds, a host of pious pundits will step forward to bleat that this celebration is "mean-spirited."
Yeah, and we'll tell Ms Althouse to shut her fucking pie-hole just like we do now.
These are the same smarmy aunties who decry Bush hatred as "extreme" and "obsessive" and fatuously intone that Bush "appears to have driven some people on the left crazy." Rubbish. Those of us who will be celebrating will be giving thanks for the end of a president who launched a totally unnecessary and disastrous war, declared a radical new doctrine of limitless presidential power, threw gasoline on what was once a small jihadi fire, severely weakened the economy, approved of torture and domestic spying, let bin Laden get away, accelerated the destruction of the environment, bashed science, engaged in vicious illegal vendattas against his opponents, winked at gay-bashing, handed out tax breaks to billionaires, lied constantly, made the U.S. hated around the world, and did it all while talking loudly in public on his personal hotline to Jesus. And that's just the short list.
What's not to celebrate?
Indeed. Ding dong, the witch is dead and all that.
But then Kamiya, doubtless driven to muzzy-hued daydreams by his visions of a post-Bush world, begins to spout several paragraphs of mealy-mouthed pabulum, scolding us fire-breathing Angry Liberals in a tone of voice that sounds an awful lot like Joe Klein on a low boil.
This will mean learning again how to discuss, argue and debate issues in a more nuanced way, and being able to move beyond the raw, polemical mind-set that has flourished in the Bush years. I don't mean to bash the liberal blogosphere here. I have been critical of some aspects of the online reader revolution, of which the blogosphere is a big part, in particular its tendency to amplify the loudest, shrillest, most intemperate and crudest comments.
Yes, thank you. The Liberal Blogosphere has been veddy, veddy good to me.
But here's where Kamiya loses his grip:
It is a happy historical coincidence that the Internet empowered millions of citizens at exactly the same moment that a power-mad, secrecy-obsessed administration launched a disastrous war, and at the same moment that the mainstream media disgracefully abandoned its post.
Um, no. It is not a "coincidence" at all. The world of liberal Internet punditry did not in fact spring spontaneously from the forehead of Duncan Black so that it just happened to be there idling on the side of the highway when Markos Moulitsas came wandering out of the wilderness with a few thousand of his closest personal friends. Left Blogistan came into being because we forced it into being. Like blades of grass pushing up through concrete, we have been continually trying to punch through the walls built up around the discourse by the spoiled, fatuous, cretinous dickheads who gleefully joined the Clinton lynch mob, but then went on an extended journalistic holiday as the Republican Party and the Bush Administration set about dismantling our great nation and turning it into the world's single largest banana republic, and we're still trying to punch through those walls every day.
By holding the media's feet to the fire, and giving millions of people a chance to vent their outrage at their government, the political blogosphere served a vital civic function.
Please note the past tense on "served a vital civic function". In other words, "Thanks you dirty fuckin' hippies! Now shut up and let the grownups enjoy the space you've carved out for us."
Lord god, this is the stuff that chaps my ass. Go on home, kids! Gary says we're outmoded. We've done everything we can do here. Now it's time to shut up so that people like David Fucking Broder will take the Left seriously. Apparently, Kamiya sees us as some kind of liability for the Party.
Now, I kind of see his point when he says that some corners of Left Blogistan can be just about as puritanical, shrilly ideological, and hysterical as the Right. I've had some experience with that, actually, but the fact of the matter is that Kamiya's victory celebration is premature. It would be really nice to rest now, to leave off the desperate emergencies faced by our nation and write about food, music, and shoes, but that's exactly the sort of thing that will lead to President John McCain being sworn in when Chimpy gets evicted. And we're not fucking having that.
Even when we see Chimpy, Shooter, Condi, and all the rest removed from power, there will still be a host of Malkins, Gibsons, Donohues, Kristols, Romneys, Brownbacks, Limbaughs, O'Reillys, and Krauthammers to hammer. The NeoCons have insufficient self-awareness to feel any shame whatsoever for the fact that they've been wrong, wrong, wrong about everything they've ever focused the pencil-thin, wavering beams of their intellects on. Like all bad liars, they just keep spewing more and more incoherent crap while the Wingnut Welfare system just keeps pumping cash into their pockets, propping up the NRO, and writing out big checks for another breathtakingly bad book by Dinesh D'Souza.
But Gary, thanks for sharing. I am intimately familiar with how draining it is day after day to feel the appropriate amounts of outrage and vitriol about what's happened to my country, and it was somewhat comforting to read that you feel the same way. Unfortunately, I am not so sanguine as yourself about the future of the relationship between Right and Left. It would be very pleasant to believe that we can relax now and go back to speaking in a reasonable tone of voice without being ignored and ridden over rough-shod by the frothing screamers of the GOP. I really would like to believe that things are going to get better on their own and that eventually Jonah Goldberg won't be able to get arrested on the talk show circuit, but somehow, I think that the next two years are going to be just as hard as the last six, if not harder. And I doubt that we'll lose the need for high-volume, hot-headed "rhetorical assassins" any time soon.
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F I T Z !!!
Kitz!
It’s beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas….
Evenin’ TRex!
LoudounLib @ 2
Evening, L-squared! How’s life treating you?
More sickness of the moment:
http://cyrusfarivar.com/blog/?p=1246
(via Tom Tomorrow)
Accountability. It’s not just for governments any more. Political Parties, Pundits, Media Outlets . . .
Accountability. It makes a marvelous Late Night snack.
CHOMP!!! CHOMP!!! CHOMP!!!
Gotta go watch jane’s video, then I will come back and read before bedtime.
Life is great here, T – btw I loved your post last night about your main man JC, and what a cutie he is! I couldn’t hang around to comment (work, dammit!) but if I’d been there I probably would have shared a story or two about my little barn kitty :-)
. . .in your face late niters ! :)
hello to the darling dino boy, who’s turn is it tonight ? ooh she purrs . . . Gary
One question for ya, TRex. When you pushed publish, was smoke coming from your fingers?
TRextorical assassin!
Sometimes, TRex, I worry that right-wing lurkers might overlook the subtle nuances of your wit.
Ding dong, the witch is dead and all that.
Uh, no she’s not. But if Hillary Clinton had created the Patriot Act, engineered the death of habeus corpus and posse comitatus, totally botched the biggest environmental disaster in US history, blown two wars while using the same set of lies to kindle a third, shamefully neglected our veterans, etc., etc., the nutso reichwing would have “Clinton Derangement Syndrome” far, far worse than was their first case of the malady.
Despising evil people is no vice. Enabling first-string fascists is no virtue.
Suzanne @
10
Not tonight.
Out of my ears, well, that’s another story.
As usual, another one out of the park, TRex.
Yeah, the Regressives know nothing about being obsessed with their opponents. Shit, we all remember how forgiving Nixon was. He was the living, breathing model of “Live and let live”. :)
Also, it’s not like they were so obsessed with the last Dem president that they actually lost seats in Congress because they were so desperate to Impeach a Democrat that they trumped up charges that only wingnuts and their allies, the MSM, believed or cared about. Oh, that’s right, they did do that, sorry for confusing you all.
Personally, I’m with Steve Gilliard (no link, I think you have all heard of him ’round here-;)) that I think we’ll be having our “Bye-Bye Bushie” party next Spring or so, Hell, maybe even by X-mas. The ball is finally rolling downhill, and I believe it has sped up to an unstoppable speed, and it will bounce his coked-out arse out of what was once a noble office and out of what has been for us, and more importantly America as a whole, a long terrible nightmare of fear and repression.
And as far as I’m concerned, when Shrub does take his eventual flight on the “Nixon Special”, I hope I’m there to spit on the helicopter, for that will truly be America’s Independence Day.
Raoul
TRex- loved every minute of reading your post. But didn’t you forget something?
ATTTAAACKKKKK!!!!
ATTTAAACKKKKK!!!!
ATTTAAACKKKKK!!!!
(sorry if I’ve misspelled that)
Oops, didn’t turn Italics off, sorry all.
Raoul
Yay! Fluffy-kitty-blogger has been eclipsed by my favorite rhetorical assassin! Hooray!
axed my baby for a nickel
to quote the golden palaminos
it’s axe yo matic
Sorry to go OT so quickly, but we are not surprised…
It used to be that something like this would be the result either of mind-boggling, systematic incompetence or an astoundingly cynical and coordinated effort to defraud the American public. It wouldn’t surprise me if Der Shrubbenfuhreradministration has once again pulled off both at the same time.
Yo, G. I don’t know if you noticed, but there’s a whole two years between now and then, so it isn’t going to be that goddamn soon.
pessimist
President Pelosi ‘07
The wingnut welfare writers, talkshow barkers and fighting keyboard brigade bloggers are gonna have their hands more and more overflowing as we get closer to 2008 – multi-divorcee vs. Mormon choices on GOP ballots; three failing, flailing wars instead of two; renewed gas price rises where your load of fuel is worth half the value of your dual-tanked Dodge Ram.
As for W and how to treat him when he’s out of power, I think he should be forced to share a cell with Osama.
Lord GAWD, Billy Bob! You’ve been reading my mail, son!
I’d seen that very same Kamiya piece and I was just about to write something that took the bark off him and then you come along and all I can do is sit back and glory in the wonder of your incandescent flame. You hit every note, rung every bell, addressed every point to show exactly WHY and HOW Kamiya’s piece is just so badly effed up. It’s as if a decade of dealing with Joan Walsh has finally rotted his once-sharp mind.
Okay, kids. Heading home.
See you in a bit.
On T:
I find it somewhat crass that malefactors (at worst) and terminal underachievers (at best) have the hubris to expect the return of comity now that their gross deficiencies have been revealed.
‘You can’t imply anything to morons’…Line up the media, cue the fluffer and the rolling donut.
Off T:
Looks like George Takei and you have something in common, Rex…And not just some papish aspirations.
;>)
Phoenix Woman @ 25
Hey, I like Joan Walsh!
Pretty soon, we won’t have Bush to kick around anymore.
Bovine Fecal Matter.
The little tinpot is going to disband congress as obstructionist and declare martial law. After it nukes whomever Israel tells it to nuke.
We got us a King folks, get used to it.
T-Rex, you sound like me a few days ago, but funnier.
darkblack @ 27
Hooray for Mr. Sulu!!
TRex: “…Publican Party…”
I really think we need to take George Bush’s lead on this and refer to them as the Republic Party. It makes them sound like the evil Imperialistic dark force acolytes that they are.
Publican Party just sounds like a bunch of Shriners hanging out in an Irish bar.
.
darkblack @ 27
Oh my gods *ROFLMAO* That was Brilliant!!!! I forgot Takei has such a wicked sense of humor. *gigglesnorts some more at that clip*
TRex @ 31
He’s a bad mother- Whoops! I was almost ‘uncivil’ there.
;>)
Looks like the Ghost of Diana is helping to end the Iraq War. Blair is to announce the British Pull Out. One has to wonder if Prince Harry’s insistence on being deployed was the tipping point.
Maybe if the Twins insisted on deploying, we would have the same happy result in this country.
Peterr @
6
Accountability – for:
FDA / USDA / NIH / NIMH / EPA / OSHA / MSHA / USFS
Hospitals / HMO’s / PPO’s /
Blow off your kidney-O’sKaiser / High DeductiblePig* pharma
Pig* insurance
Physicians….
YES to Accountabilty –
and CHOMP! CHOMP! CHOMP!
(*no disrespect to porcines intended)
aliasofwestgate @ 34
He did a commercial a while back for some financial company that was just hysterical. He was supposedly being featured as a master criminal in some bomb of a movie called “Blowed Up”. Of course, on seeing the trailer, someone who owns stock in the studio is trying to sell…
Anyway, that clip from the Kimmel show is wonderful payback.
Marcy sees Darth’s head on a stick?
http://www.rawstory.com//news/….._0220.html
JGabriel @ 33
Try RepubliCANTs, like Can’t debate the Iraq War. Can’t tax the Rich. Can’t fund the VA. Can’t negociate the lower drug prices. Can’t believe global warming. Can’t improve fuel efficiency. Can’t, … Oh, well you get the point: fill in the blank.
Pectopah @ 36
I’ve been reading reports for several months about how the U.K. was getting ready to get out of Iraq. I doubt Harry had much to do with it.
“3,000 British troops to pull out of Iraq by May” (Jan, 2007)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..iraq11.xml
This one’s from 2005:
“Britain to pull 5,500 troops out of Iraq”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..wstop.html
UPDATE: Here it is “Blowed Up”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td4VEGiIQmk
Sounds like somebody needs a little more re-education so as to truly love Big Brother Bubba Bush.
I love Left Blogistan and who the hell is this Kamiya assclown to start questioning us?
He should get a clue.
Here’s a start; check out my posts: Hang these Traitorous Scum! and A Portrait of George W. Bush: The Banality of Evil he wanna see him some ‘Bush Hating’. And while he’s there check the dates of these posts. We here in Left Blogistan have been at this for a while.
So…
I humbly suggest the the estimable Kamiya SHFPH!
…well, it’s no wonder that Kumiya guy has gone mad…even on liberal blogs the edges of the screen are filled with the george bush face, sometimes wearing a hat, other times made to look silly…there’s no escape….newspapers, magazines, blogs, TV, radio, he is everywhere you turn…I feel quite mad myself and go from devouring all the news for days straight to turning off everything and pretending the bush swill isn’t really there…to think he will be gone in the near distant future is like rubbing soothing salve into badly chapped skin. Relief!
A. Citizen, don’t you mean SYFPH? Or doesn’t the PH stand for “pie hole”?
*waving to spidey*
I have been critical of some aspects of the online reader revolution, of which the blogosphere is a big part, in particular its tendency to amplify the loudest, shrillest, most intemperate and crudest comments.
Darn that teh Left. Why can’t they be polite and courteous like the
RightWrong?TRex – I love you to pieces which is why I wanted to suggest that you might want to rethink you comment in 19 – and then the other comment that quotes it. Unfortunately, there are some who might misunderstand and overreact to something said (even in snark)
Walsh drives me up the wall, T. There are times when she gets it and then there are times when she’s not only swallowed the Kool-Aid, she’s swimming in it.
…how’s the weather in the redwoods, Suzi?
spiderpaws @ 44
Horrors! who would do such a thing…FIENDS!
;>)
How can you people speak so ill of such a great man? I mean yesterday was President’s Day and Bush told us how Washingtonian he’ll be once time passes between his presidency and the historians pen.
Here are a few of Bush’s more Washingtonian ejaculations:
Money trumps peace, sometimes.
-George W. Bush 2/14/07
“I will screw him in the ass!”
– President Bush on what he would do to Osama bin Laden if he caught him, as recounted by Ariel Sharon to biographer Uri Dan in Ariel Sharon: An Intimate Portrait.
-GSD
45.9 and temp keeps falling – no rain yet… up at your end?
darkblack… a prime example of an exploiter of silliness
Yeah, well, TRex you got that right—we ought not to party and go home anytime soon, there’s still a vital and pivotal election that the Reich wants to steal. We stinking hippies, up late in front of our glowing screens while our families are getting a proper amount of sleep, will be more important than ever.
Ed*ard Teller @
24
Maybe that is where Bush got his ass-reaming fantasies of Bin Laden.
-GSD
dab from CT @
46
What comment?
.. waiting for the drops to fall but nothing yet…they say we might get cold enough for snowflakes but right now it’s sort of mild…let’s face it, they just don’t know anymore what the hell it’s going to do…
via Raw: Helen Thomas Moving Back After 46 Years Down Front
http://dyn.politico.com/prints…..097A3AA407
This will mean learning again how to discuss, argue and debate issues in a more nuanced way, and being able to move beyond the raw, polemical mind-set that has flourished in the Bush years.
Yeah. All flowers and chocolates as we sit it the coffee shops with our lattes and other coffee with our conservative brethren where we will all discuss, argue and debate issues without getting ad hominum. Just like during the Clinton years. Or the Reagan-Bush 41 years, for that matter.
Bullsh*t!
That’s just…ew…I mean, the human mind can only take so much. There are limits.
spiderpaws @ 54
No, no, no… I never made him wear a hat, Spiderpaws…Well, there was that one time…
;>)
marksb @ 55
Which I think was part of what Kamiya was saying. I don’t know why he thinks that people will assume the job’s done when Bush is out the door, though. That’s the part I don’t understand. We know perfectly well that that’s when the real work’s going to begin, after the frat boys trash the place and leave.
let’s face it, they just don’t know anymore what the hell it’s going to do…
i hear ya… clear skies here with stars
I like RepubliCONs instead of the Republic Party. Someone else said that, I can’t claim it but I loooooooooove it.
TRex at #14 above:
Dinosaurs have ears??
ouiski @ 65
oooooh i like that too
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 47
Jeebers, the start of indymedia around the 1999 Seattle WTO protests woulda shredded his hankies….
Imagine decentralized media created by and for citizens taking control of policy.
Rabble.
[….whisper….
for internet “activist site” historians, the progressive net’s “post your own news”/”comment on the post” ethos exploded in ‘99 with the Seattle Independent Media Center….
years before the “blogosphere”…..
but that’s for another thread….]
Lou Costello @
57
Chimpy is cutting and running from a fight with an 80 year old woman.
Soon he’ll be seen crying in public again.
-GSD
C&L has an interesting clip of our exalted White House Press Corps sounding a little threatened by the “new media.”
As they talk loud and say nuthin’, there’s an audience cutaway that clearly shows Gannon/Guckert in the front row listening. How ironic these tools are ripping on bloggers and a working male protitute with little journalistic training, credentialed and paid by a hyper-partisan NeoCon front group, is/was sitting within their esteemed ranks. FDL has just created a tectonic shift in the media with the Monkey-Scoots Trial, and these morons go on and on about how irresponsible blogs are?!? Have another cocktail weenie David Gregory.
There was a woman, not sure who, who tried to chime in and say a nice thing about blogs being a welcomed addition to the media, but Tony McSnowJob rudely ignored her and just talked over her, so we never really got to hear her point. It’s been amazing how far we’ve all come over the past few years in repairing our democratic Republic, but things like this “panel” show we still have a long, long way to go. Let’s keep it up!
Thomas Ware @
29
If we have a King, some of us are going to turn Roundhead! The English Parliament got in a habit of removing Kings who were out of control, and there are times to look back at the good traditions.
bonkers @
68
That was the smarmiest little gathering of self satisfied white men I may have ever seen. Imagine Tony Snow lecturing other people about ethics and responsibility.
…what’s with the red face bush has every now and then…he looks as if he’s been on a bender. Are you all saying that bush made that remark to sheron? Maybe that’s why the guy had a stroke and burst his arteries. Isn’t he still in a coma somewhere? He just couldn’t take the image of …..ugh
GSD @
67
The country needs to see Bush cry every single day from here to the end of his term. Or, er, at least have the video available.
Why Wait ‘Til ‘08? Pelosi ‘07!
(saw this button at Buzzflash)
That is just wrong the way they are treating Helen. Don’t even try to tell me this is not payback for her participation in Colbert’s skit.
TRex @ 55
it’s gone now
bonkers @ 73
The public is so far out ahead of the government on Iraq. The slow, inexorable machinery of our bloated government structure is just grinding on and on, making a great deal of noise and mess and accomplishing nil. Meanwhile the war itself is in a state of explosive collapse.
We should have an election. We should ask the people what they want to do.
What, really?
*looks around*
I didn’t see a thing.
*wink*
spiderpaws – if you are still here – do you mind a question?
TRex:
YGM
SteveAudio @ 79
You have granted me a formidable new weapon in my arsenal.
TRex @ 80
I thought you’d like it. He’s really talented, that boy.
Hey Steve Audio – I was thinking of you the other night while watching one of those decorating shows and the decorator recommended track lighting.
Everything old becomes new again.
This Libby fuck is giving us Irving”s with integrity abad name!!!!
The thing that bugged me about Kamiya’s piece was the idea that we’re all sitting around hating on Bush until ‘08, and then, by gosh, we’ll have to fix things!
He apparently hasn’t noticed that we’re hard at work stopping things from getting worse, and fixing things now. Ever hear of a little thing called the ‘06 election?
The things that piss me off about Bush are the things he’s done, not who he is. (Who he is is annoying, but not worth getting worked up over.) Stopping the things he’s done and wants to do can’t wait, and ‘08 isn’t necessarily going to be better if we don’t pour our hearts into stopping them.
And best of all, unlike Kamiya, I don’t have to stop myself and completely rethink my political action after the next election, because those causes will be just as much worth fighting then.
Ed*ard Teller @
13
Ed*ward.
You are normally understandable, and appreciated. I don’t get this. Please explicky.
irving @ 83
As long as you don’t go by “Scooter,” I don’t think anyone will make the connection…
Suzanne @ 82
Cute, real freakin’ cute! ;-)
And hey right back to you.
Not sure if this was covered much here, but just saw the actual video.
Shrubya: “Money Trumps Peace….uhhhh….sometimes.”
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mbFWh-eVFhg
Uhhhh…absolutely speechless. Please Fitz, move quickly! More and more death and destruction each day. Please stop these murderers and save the Constitution!
1) Who is this Kamiya person?
2) Where the hell did they come from?
3) Is this Joke Line’s intern?
4) As much as I appreciate tonight’s posting and the evisceration of Kamiya’s assertions, wasn’t this really more like spearing fish in a barrel?
The first part of the article made me so happy, and then he started wagging his finger at me and lecturing. I just had to say something.
Anyone from Minneapolis/St. Paul? I’m making my first visit there in the am.
[sniffs armpit] Do I offend? Where did everybody go?
Nate @ 91
Working for Franken?
fini, i’m still here
TRex @ 90
Ah, there you is. Ok, I can see that. I would probably be annoyed that someone would wag fingers at me too if wearing your…what do therapods wear on their feet instead of shoes?
Fini: Thanks for the link about Blogumentary. Helps bring some focus to a bunch of random thoughts I’ve had.
Suzanne @ 94
[waves enthusiastically]
bonkers @ 96
I just watched that this evening after I got your email about it. I had emailed the link to you w/out watching it first. It was decent, but again, left me wanting a different perspective. We definitely need to discuss that further soon.
(waving back to fini) had left over smothered chicken tonight and was thinking of you and es
Nope but I considered calling him and seeing about a short vlog interview. The same kind of no-budget, kitchen table interview style I did with Charlie Brown.
But I’m in for a few days on training for a line I rep.
Hi hovering and long-suffering mods -
Looks like a clean-up on aisle 178 of Fitz rebuttal II.
Mods and firedogs, if this were trolling, I’d ignore it.
Yet here at the Lake, we’ve focused on the wingers’ violent speech and threats against ideological opponents.
The commenter wiggles away from the violent wish by projecting onto Instapundit – but Instapundit didn’t write the comment.
Blergh.
I’m writing ’cause if no one objects aloud, that sort of hate speech piles up.
Sorry to rain on the parade..
Nate don’t stay at the Marriott near the football stadium. They charge $35 for valet parking and THAT is all the parking they have. And they charge you that every time you take your care out even in the same day.
You cannot buy beer or wine in the grocery store. You have to find a state liquor store open before 7 pm. See what fun trivia I learn from the Monday Night Football season!
Funny. I posted snippets from the Salon piece earlier but true to form glossed over much of the second part in reading it. I thought this was a pretty good take-away:
OK, so the last bit is a bit aspenish…
Suzanne @ 99
Mmmmmm good stuff. And a fantastic idea for dinner tomorrow night, I have some boneless/skinless breasts thawing in the fridge tonight I was unsure what to do with. How do you cook yours?
http://www.rawstory.com//news/….._0220.html
Bread and fry!
It’s really the only way.
Lou Costello @ 104
Yeah, I’m really not seeing this case just disappearing into the ether after the jury returns its verdict.
Look who’s lurking… http://youtube.com/watch?v=UzWZ5psU-yg
TRex @ 105
See, you Southern folks with your fried foods, remind me of my Grandma Ruth. Grandma Ruth woulda been pissed there wasn’t skin on em for dipping in egg and flour. She’d have bought the gizzards and used the rest of the egg wash and flour remnants on those too.
I suppose the mashed taters would be drowning in real butter at your table too, huh?
Fini: Sounds good. There are alot of angles with this topic that haven’t been covered yet it seems to me. Talk soon.
katymine @ 102
Good tip about the booze… Don’t have to worry about the rest though cuz no matter where I’m staying, a car and driver are taking me there and then to and from the training. I just hope they have broadband, a decent gym, a hot shower and a good tv. Wasn’t planning on exploring the crisp night air too much. :)
Not my Hawaii-pampered ass. Uhhh… Hell no.
I use McCormick grill mate mix Zesty Herb and marinate them over night. Grill them on the gas grill, serve with brown rice and asparagus marinated in balsamic vinegar and grill them al dente.
TRex @ 105
Fooooooeeey!
Marinated in a lime, triple sec and crushed cilantro bath and then flame grilled, served over long grain wild rice and smothered in a mango chili and red onion salsa.
Shot of tequila and bottle of Corona highly recommended but not mandatory.
Hi Trex, good evening everybody. Just catching up on the day (it’s 5 pm here.) Speaking of food I found my old Julia Child, Mastering the Art of French Cooking. If I served anything out of there these days I’d be arrested. “OK, put down that pound of butter and no one gets hurt”.
Nate @ 112
Or you can slice it thinly, marinate it for 30 minutes or so in soy sauce, cornstarch, and rice wine, then stir fry it with your choice of veggies. Yum!
How do you cook yours?
when i cook it smothered, in the oven on slow (300) oven with a tight lid on the pot for about 4 hours the chicken (whole or parts) laying on top of about 5 cloves of garlic cut into slivers, and one or two whole yellow onions cut up. after about an hour, add one can of cream of mushroom soup but no water and stir it all up. if i got them, i also add in a whole passel of sliced up mushrooms.
cook until all smooshed up with real mashed potatoes with real butter and some fresh biscuits hot out of the oven. yummy. also can substitute pork chops instead of chicken – everything else is the same.
I’m lacking good marinade right now. Best I can do is soy sauce for marinade and that’s not the direction I want to take these. I can approximate a zesty herb mix of seasonings from the spice rack though. And the asparagus I’m way ahead of you there, but I am fresh out of balsamic vinegar.
Lime, triple sec and cilantro sounds ideal but I am short lime, triple sec and cilantro. I guess I know what I am getting for this weekend’s shopping trip though. Good advice all around.
Interesting photo show of Bob Woodruffs recovery from his injuries in Iraq.
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/popu…..amp;page=1
Amazing recovery and he will have a special on TeeVee Feb 27th – “To Iraq and back”
petedownunder: Do you live in Sydney perchance?
FDL – ‘Come for the incivility toward the destroyers of liberty, stay for the nifty recipe tips’
;>)
Phoenix Woman @ 24
well, as we both know, not quite every note…. what was particularly gaulling for me was that this claptrap about “a happy historical coincidence that the Internet empowered millions of citizens at exactly the same moment that a power-mad, secrecy-obsessed administration launched a disastrous war” appeared in Salon of all places.
Before blogs became all the rage, there were discussion groups of various shapes and sizes –such as Salon’s own Table Talk — that were empowering millions of citizens. Indeed, much of the entire “election reform” movement was birthed at places like “Table Talk” and the research that was done by its members on the 2000 Florida election debacle.
The biggest contribution of blogs was to make it possible for anyone to host their own “discussion” sites, which up until that point were administered by fairly sizeable organizations. But blogs themselves didn’t empower millions of Americans — their ideas were already being expressed, and they were already organizing themselves, well before blogs became popular.
darkblack @ 121
Fixed
Suzanne @ 118
My smothered chicken is pretty much the same but I used a bottle of beer as the liquid instead of the soup. Boy is that good.
Peterr @ 114
Mmmmmmm… Stir Fry! :)
Lou Costello @
107
It’s unbelievable to me that Gannon even exists, let alone that he just seems to sort of pop up Zelig-like at every turn. What an ass. All I can think of is what a hellacious shit storm there would have been if Clinton had sneaked a former whore of either gender into the White House press room to lob softball questions.
It sickens me.
Ok pups… off to bed. Have to Train new employees tomorrow am….. via Webex so no falling asleep during the sessions.
Nite to all and Nate, Starbucks on every corner too.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 116
You’ll love it but try and whip yourself up the salsa too. Great stuff. btw… You’ve got mail.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 117
Got any salsa? Cut up your chicken breasts (or not), brown in oil, plop some salsa on top cover and turn down to simmer. While you cook your asparagus or whatever. If you have some sour cream you can put it in at the last minute (so it doesn’t make it too cold) or just put it on top, or shredded lettuce or grated cheese or black olives or anything you’d put on nachos. Or not, if you don’t got.
Nice on rice. Or not.
darkblack @ 121
We have full lives, we rabid lambs.
watch the zigs
Lovely writing, TRex. Bedtime for me, night everybody.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 123
They don’t have the grit of the old 60’s types, I tells ya
;>)
My smothered chicken is pretty much the same but I used a bottle of beer as the liquid instead of the soup. Boy is that good.
why is it that whenever I see recipes for smothered chicken, I always think that chocking a chicken is much more efficient? ;)
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 122
Man, have you seen some of the emails the former “Edwards bloggers” were getting?!? Talk about foul-mouthed!
Thankfully, Jesus’ General has been on the case.
Funny how we only hear about us “lefties” being uncivil.
Well, they mustn’t be greasy. But no peels. They’re snow white and whipped to fluffy peaks at my house, by god.
The cornbread, on the other hand…
p.lukasiak @ 133
*cough!*
heh.
Always good to see you, Mr. L.
bonkers @ 121
Brisbane.
HotFlash @ 129
I’ve done this a number of times recently, and I am honestly burned out on salsa for a while. I’ve been eating a lot of salsa lately because a friend of my mother’s gave me a large box full of canned tomatoes after her funeral in September and I have been using them up all winter long. I could live without tomatoes for a while now.
And I have been on a Asian kick for about a month I need to break from as well. I may use that idea with the cream of mushroom soup because I happen to have a can of that. Plus it would be a change of pace.
TRex, my mama uses heavy cream and mashed garlic in her mashed potatoes and fries her chicken in a wok.
TRex @ 136
There is only one way to eat cornbread and that is dripping with butter. Otherwise it gets too dry too fast.
petedownunder @ 137
Another wonderful city. I’ve spent a decent amount of time up and down that coast for work (live in the States). In fact, proposed to my wife on the Sydney Harbor Bridge. Hope to get back someday. How has the Summer been?
CNN: Britain sets Iraq pullout date
Suzanne @ 139
All good, all good.
Although I myself am a purist. When I cook southern, I make it just exactly as my grandmother would, and that means no chili in the pinto beans or garlic in the gravy.
Really, the indigenous spices of my homeland are salt, pepper, and sweet’n’low.
Chicken Paprikash
Combine in a plastic bag:
1/2 cup white flour
1/2 – 1 tsp salt
1/4 tsp black pepper
Place in bag one at a time to coat with the flour mixture:
3-4 boneless chicken breast halves
Bake chicken for 30-4- minutes at 375. Saut in skillet until tender:
1/2 cup chopped onion
4 cups sliced mushrooms
1 tbsp oil
Stir into mushroom mixture:
1 1/2 tsp paprika
1 tsp dill weed
1/2 tsp salt
1/4 tsp black pepper
1 cup chicken broth
Thicken sauce with:
3 tbsp water
1 1/2 tbsp cornstarch
Lower heat to medium. Cut chicken into bite size chunks and add to sauce. Stir until chicken is heated. Remove from heat and stir in:
1/2 cup yogurt
Add 1/4 cup at a time if sauce is too thick:
1/2 – 1 cup water
Serve over rice or noodles.
TRex, my mama was born and raised in a holler in Kentucky. She didn’t start adding the garlic until after I was grown up and moved out.
I protested against the Iraq invasion in Sydney in 2003. There was a massive turnout and people were really pissed at John Howard. Did he get re-elected since then, or is he soon finishing out his term? I can’t imagine he could get re-elected after what I saw, unless they use electronic voting machines.
Terry Olson @ 85
Am I inscrutable or unappreciated? I wasn’t saying Sen. Clinton is a “witch,” but the rightwing machine does. Every day. Had she or any Dem done what Bush has, the wingnut media and blogs would be even more deranged than they are.
I’m not a fan of Sen. Clinton, nor was I a fan of her husband as president. I really don’t want either a Bush or Clinton in the White House for the entire period from 1988 to 2016.
This is my most recent new recipe for chicken, except I used thighs instead of breasts, and used more sauce that it called for. served with rice and snow peas.
Hoisin Roast Chicken Breasts
Stir together:
1/3 cup hoisin sauce
1/3 cup orange juice
1 tbsp soy sauce
3 cloves garlic, minced
1 tbsp minced gingerroot
1 tsp grated orange rind
1 tsp Chinese five-spice powder
Dash hot pepper sauce
Pour marinade over:
8 chicken breasts
Marinate 30 minutes at room temperature. Arrange chicken skin side up in shallow roasting pan. Combine marinade with:
1 tbsp liquid honey
Roast chicken 20 minutes at 375. Brush with honey mixture and bake for about 20 minutes longer, brushing once with pan juices.
(waving to ET)
I was listening to NPR this afternoon, and there were a few interviews of people attending the rally for McCain in South Carolina. One stuck in mind: a guy who said, rather too proudly, “I’m a George Bush man, and John McCain is the closest out there to George Bush. So I’m going to vote for him.”
So, McCain has a ready-made constituency among the batshit insane. And that’s where he’s positioning himself–it worked for Bush, twice, I’m sure McCain has concluded, which is why he’s reneging on all his positions in 2000.
TRex ain’t wrong about having to keep this “Bush hatred” up for quite a while yet.
ccoaler @ 142
See my #39 for some background. This has been in the works for quite a while. I wonder why the U.S. news is just picking up on this now.
montag @ 150
Much like crime and terrorism, as long as the conditions that created him remain, there will always be another Bush.
Gen. JC Christian, Patriot has just posted a letter to FAUX news, proposing questions for the Nevada Dem Candidate debate:
“Sen. Hussein-Osama, how do we know that you won’t set off a homicide bomb at your own inauguration?”
“Gov. Richardson, isn’t it true that you refer to your state by using the name of a foreign country?”
“Sen. Clinton, now that you’re a lesbian, can the American people be assured that you won’t murder any more boyfriends?”
“Sen. Biden, if I told you that Gov. Richardson is actually a Mexican, would you have the guts to render him to Syria?”
“Sen. Edwards, have you given up on your plans to rape the Pope?”
“Sen. Dodd, who among your competitors should be hung for treason along with Nancy Pelosi and Jack Murtha?”
the comments section has more question suggestions.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @
104
Flour them, add spices, put about 6-10 whole peeled cloves of garlic in the pan, add oil, brown, add 1/3 bottle wine, stir and scrape. Add more oil. Lower the heat. Cover, 10 minutes turn over and cut in big pieces. Cook about 10- 15 min. more or til done. Serve with rice (jambalya or rice with black beans is good, the Zatarain’s brand).
This has been in the works for quite a while. I wonder why the U.S. news is just picking up on this now.
I think it is the bright shiny thing to distract from the bad news coming out of the Libby courtroom.
darkblack @ 120
Yo (as the kidz say)
Ed*ard Teller @ 147
I was not a Clinton fan either after the Waco incident early in 93. I knew then we were in for a continuation of policies similar to the Reagan-Bush years. I turned out to be proven right. Economically I liked the 90s but foreign policy in that time was a disaster that led to the Somalia fiasco, Rwanda genocide, Bosnian and Kosovo misadventures, Haitian refugees, Tanzania and Kenya bombings, Khobar Towers, and the USS Cole.
We were showing weakness to the jihadis and other enemies who, if you paid attention back then, were threatening to do exactly what they’ve done in the intervening years while Clinton ignored them.
Catching up and on my way to the horizontal thread count.
Dayum TRex found some cat power tonight! *smoking keyboard*
Got to love the fact ol shooter is meeting some unhappy Japanese hosts as he tries to hide this week. http://search.japantimes.co.jp…..221a5.html
Fini – When in doubt, stir fry…)
Nate – I thought perhaps you had a secret meeting with Senator Feingold. bummer
Since it can’t be said enough. I love firedoglake!! What a fantastic day…)
Fabulous wrap up by our ladies tonight.
oh, and FITZ!
g’nite all
Hi, Suzanne!
Nice to read about chicken. I’ve been prepping for a big XC Ski team
intense carbspaghetti feed for tomorrow night, before the state HS championship. Moose spaghetti.Juan Carlos has just informed me that it’s his bedtime and therefore mine.
Good night, everyone.
TRex @ 160
Night, mon ami
g’nite, TRex, sleep well
TRex @ 160
It’s about that time here, too. Goodnight all.
Fini,
I was gung ho on Clinton at first, but he was an extremely poor congressional strategist and far too schmoozy to corporations for a Dem. It was especially sad to see his brilliiant mind wasted. If he had half the humanity of Jimmy Carter, his presidency might have somehow resonated.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 157
I would disagree with that assessment–Clinton was paying attention to them, not ignoring them. All indications are that money for counterterrorism was steadily increasing through the late `90s.
What Clinton was ignoring, however, was the legacy left him by Bush the Elder–the U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia–precisely the thing that was pissing off all the jihadis.
With that policy still in place, all the things you described came to pass–no matter what Clinton did regarding counterterrorism, with that unchanged policy continued in his adminstration, things like the Cole bombings, the `93 WTC attacks and the embassy bombings were assured.
SteveAudio @ 156
…as long as there’s no cussin’ – daggum kidz.
;>)
Suzanne @ 155
ding ding.
and shouldn’t we start speculating on what blonde woman TradMed will roll out, or disappear, or something, for Libby Verdict Day? Or will Junja simply bomb Iran?
Too bad this just missed TRex, but Matt Taibbi has another stellar piece out. He’s one of the best out there today. There is some hope for the Conglomerate Media after all. Some…
http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/48278
Teddy, KO pointed out tonight that ANS is still dead, embalmed, and still not buried. I think she is the blonde de jour.
my money is that they will roll out Anna Nicole’s corpse for public viewing that day…the Broward County ME has made it clear that a decision regarding disposition of her remains needs to be made soon for her body to remain presentable for an open casket viewing… and it won’t take long for a verdict to be reached…
g’nite childrens, sweet dreams of libby-live-blogging tonite.
PS If you’d like to give Harry Reid a piece of your mind about his asking FOX Noise Channel to host the August Democratic Presidential debate, here’s my post on it. Comments welcome!
montag @ 165
There is a lot of truth to what you said regarding the jihadis, but the rest of the foreign policy disasters that didnt happen in the Muddled East were a Third Way Democrat imperialistic agenda run amok. Bosnia, Rwanda, Chinese MFN status, NAFTA…I could go on and on. His Foreign policy was no different than the Reagan-Bush global imperialist agenda. Which continues to this day and will continue uf Hillary is elected.
TeddySanFran @ 171
Someone needs to tell Harry that his web site is called “Give ‘em HELL Harry,” not “Give ‘em Zell.” (Thanks General).
bonkers @ 143
Summer has been remarkably cool. I’m a semi-ex pat yank myself (the future Mrs Downunder is an Aussie). We are finally getting a little rain, but the drought is very bad. Reservoirs are down to about 22% capacity.
bonkers @ 148
He was re-elected and his term is up I think the end of this year. He is absolute scum but a wily pol.
petedownunder @ 175
He’s basically the Aussie George W.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 178
Except unlike Chimpy he can talk in complete sentences and is actually competent in many areas. Why he decided to have Oz throw in its lot with the US in Iraq I still don’t understand.
I guess the thinking is that Oz is incapable of defending itself – its military hardware is just sad – and they may need the US some day. But as Oz sent the grand total of 1400 troops to Iraq it’s not like it made a tactical difference.
Gnight firepups!
petedownunder @ 177
For what it’s worth, also don’t forget the new (unmanned) U.S. satellite ground station facility the Aussies recently agreed to host about 400 km north of Perth.
darkblack @
166
danged technology stuff, lost the intertubes for about 15 minutes.
‘course, at my house that means Intertoobz, teevee, and phone, and since I’m kinda in the hills, cel ain’t so great here.
g’nite fini
And, on the peace in the Middle East front….
TRex–I just have to say–at the risk of sounding sychophantic–
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Tonights piece was a particularly catharthic read.
Your writing touches me in all the right places–and I mean that in a totally intellectual way, (I know you like men ‘rexes– still..)
That’s it for me tonight, folks. G’nite.
Cujo359 @ 45
Er…yeah, damn typo!
I keep wondering whether, with all our critiques of Bush and his dour band of proto-fascists, should we be more concerned that two years may not be enough for them? That’s putting a lot of faith in an political system that hasn’t exactly proven rock solid of late.
Mornin’, all -
Imus on a rather good extended rant re. Walter Reed this a.m. He actually admits *he* should have asked more questions about “what happens after they leave the hospital”, bless his cowhat heart.
I listen so you can retain your breakfast beverage of choice. *g*
g’morning all
I don’t think they’ll leave office voluntarily, ever. The 08 election will be another circus.
hey…this doesn’t look good. I thought the MCA was another issue we were told the courts would reverse.
Guantanamo detainees cannot appeal detention in US, court rules
Good morning, pups. This morning Maureen Dowd is the only one behind the NYT firewall. She’s, like, well, Obama went to Hollywood, and, like, Hillary’s all mad and all…. Feh.
http://mgpaquin.blogspot.com/
I’m hoping that we’ve seen the last of the sub-freezing temps here… {knocks wood} Grab a cup of coffee or tea and a bagel, and have a peaceful day.
Good morning, Marion. Another cup of coffee would be welcome. I’ve been re-reading Fitz’ closing rebuttal and statement. It certainly put fire in my morning!
UN prepares Iran nuke report
Mornin’ all!
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‘morning twolf, jacquie! morning all!
Hey, Tommy! Hope all is well with you.
tommy yum @
195
Hey you, good news regarding Esten, yes?
((((((((((((Tommy and Maxwell Family))))))))))
I might add that the job will still not be done in two years. Even if Al Gore does become president (my fantasy), the press corps will not suddenly become responsible. The “Clinton Lynch Mob” will become the “Gore Lynch Mob.” Remember, the MSM’s rightward shift began in the Regan years, maybe even earlier. We have a long and difficult task ahead to undo the damage that’s been done to the public discourse, to say nothing of the damage that’s been done to the country as a whole.
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James Meek from NY Daily News NOW on Washington Journal – C-Span 1 re. the Libby trial
Good Morning Morning Gang,
wow, what a day yesterday, easily as hopeful and exhilirating as Election Day – simply wow!
waccamaw – actually caught some of Imus’ rant – loved hearing him say Bush & Cheney are War Criminals who should be hanged, but glaringly absent was his support of Lieberman and smearing of Lamont – and I’ve yet to hear him mention Murtha – hmmm
FDL get’s shout out on CSPAN from caller…
…and praise from Meek “They’re really the stars”
“They’re the stars of the show this time.”
FDL gettin props, “The Bloggers are the stars of the trial”!
Whooooooooohoooooo- FDL getting great reviews!
twolf / raven / et al -
Interested in hearing your reactions at end of Meek’s segment re. *his* handling of the subject.
fresh thread up top
What can I say! I love you T-rex! (In a manly sort of way). You somehow read my mind and manage to convert my thoughts into a marvelous combination of words and sentences that explain them to me better than I ever could even do in my wildest of dreams. Bravo! Bravo!
Waccamaw – I liked that he said he sometimes checked his notes against the blog (FDL) coverage.
I’m probably posting too late– this late nighter is already a couple of posts down the page– but just in case you check back in sometime, TRex, may I put in my $.02? I mean:
Outstanding!! Made my morning. (also made me wish I were part of the late night crowd)
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @
157
1) Waco, like Somalia, was started by GHW Bush, not Clinton. (Bill Sessions and Larry Potts, Bush appointees, were calling all the shots. Reno only came in at the very end — she was freshly appointed AG — and all she knew about the situation was what Sessions and Potts were telling her.)
2) Vernon “David Koresh” Howell was a murderous child-molesting thug whose church’s favorite method of settling disputes involved gun battles. (The whole reason for the standoff was his desire to avoid arrest for the murder of Texas law enforcement personnel. And yes, he torched his own compound rather than surrender.)
3) Clinton did his damndest to fight Al-Qaeda, but was hobbled by the GOP/Media Complex’s screeching “WAG THE DOG!” every time he tried to go after Bin Laden. (Remember, the press was still referring to Osama as just a little old Saudi financier right up until 9/11.)
There are good reasons to attack Bill Clinton. These are not good reasons. They are GOP/Media mythology with their origins in RNC blast-faxes to their willing press stenographers.
There are good reasons to remember burned twisted children in a church.
That comment wouldn’t have anything to do with the use of the “C-word” a couple of months back, now would it…?