Comments on: Libby Case: Prosecution Summation And Rebuttal http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:27:37 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Mac http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512782 Mac Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:21:41 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512782 <p>Libby trial is a necessary precursor to going after Cheney:<br /> - Trial has clearly established that Cheney told Libby about Plame and that Cheney directed/orchestrated the outing via multiple avenues<br /> - Plame was under Non-Official Cover (although not really deep) and had been overseas within the last 5 yrs per two mainstream journalists (looks true - CIA referred the case to Justice, although it may have been just out of principle)<br /> - If Libby is found guilty beyond any doubt, Fitzgerald has the public and political foundation to formalize charges - edict or forward to Congress - against Cheney for violating: </p> <p><a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Intelligence_Identities_Protection_Act">http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/.....ection_Act</a></p> <p>If I read it right, it doesn’t matter if Cheney was or wasn’t authorized to declassify classified info. Outing a covered agent is outing an agent. Even if he can’t flip Libby, I think he’ll press and go after Cheney…</p> <p>Mac</p> Libby trial is a necessary precursor to going after Cheney:
- Trial has clearly established that Cheney told Libby about Plame and that Cheney directed/orchestrated the outing via multiple avenues
- Plame was under Non-Official Cover (although not really deep) and had been overseas within the last 5 yrs per two mainstream journalists (looks true – CIA referred the case to Justice, although it may have been just out of principle)
- If Libby is found guilty beyond any doubt, Fitzgerald has the public and political foundation to formalize charges – edict or forward to Congress – against Cheney for violating:

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/…..ection_Act

If I read it right, it doesn’t matter if Cheney was or wasn’t authorized to declassify classified info. Outing a covered agent is outing an agent. Even if he can’t flip Libby, I think he’ll press and go after Cheney…

Mac

]]> By: Cracker http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512416 Cracker Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:55:05 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512416 <p>Snuffy,<br /> Navy callsign that is a play on my last name, but thanks for being narrow minded. What a surprise.</p> Snuffy,
Navy callsign that is a play on my last name, but thanks for being narrow minded. What a surprise.

]]> By: Michelle http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512411 Michelle Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:52:26 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512411 <p>I don’t post here very much; but do trolls like Cracka come on here often? Next he’s going to tell us that we just want the Bush Junta to collapse because we want free abortions for everyone. (rolls eyes)</p> <p>Don’t laugh–I’ve actually seen that kind of crap on UseNet (which I no longer visit as a result of that shit, by the way).</p> I don’t post here very much; but do trolls like Cracka come on here often? Next he’s going to tell us that we just want the Bush Junta to collapse because we want free abortions for everyone. (rolls eyes)

Don’t laugh–I’ve actually seen that kind of crap on UseNet (which I no longer visit as a result of that shit, by the way).

]]> By: Michelle http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512404 Michelle Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:40:06 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512404 <p>Hey LHP,</p> <p>You mentioned that your daughter might take classes at Roger Williams. Are you all from RI?</p> <p>Former RIer here. My mom actually worked in the Bursar’s Office of Roger Williams when my sister and I were kids; and yes, we lived right in Bristol. :) Tell LittleProp that “Tweet” Balzano’s is a good place to get some after-school antipasto and spaghetti. :)</p> <p>m</p> Hey LHP,

You mentioned that your daughter might take classes at Roger Williams. Are you all from RI?

Former RIer here. My mom actually worked in the Bursar’s Office of Roger Williams when my sister and I were kids; and yes, we lived right in Bristol. :) Tell LittleProp that “Tweet” Balzano’s is a good place to get some after-school antipasto and spaghetti. :)

m

]]> By: Eric http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512398 Eric Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:29:59 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512398 <p>“Encyclopedic knowledge of the case.”</p> <p>Exactly what one law school trial clinic professor said was the single most important thing for a lawyer to possess at trial.</p> “Encyclopedic knowledge of the case.”

Exactly what one law school trial clinic professor said was the single most important thing for a lawyer to possess at trial.

]]> By: JoyB http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512372 JoyB Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:32:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512372 <p>For position Pat Fitzgerald played, at least while an adult:</p> <blockquote><p>“He played in the back row at wing forward and #8. He was a solid B team player – pretty average athlete, with good skills and good understanding of the game. At the time, OMEX was one of the top ten teams in the Northeast, so he played a good standard of rugby. Blood, mud, and beer.”</p></blockquote> <p>This is from <a href="http://tomfaranda.typepad.com/folly/2005/10/i_played_rugby_.html">http://tomfaranda.typepad.com/.....ugby_.html</a> , whom I hope is making a full recovery from cancer.</p> For position Pat Fitzgerald played, at least while an adult:

“He played in the back row at wing forward and #8. He was a solid B team player – pretty average athlete, with good skills and good understanding of the game. At the time, OMEX was one of the top ten teams in the Northeast, so he played a good standard of rugby. Blood, mud, and beer.”

This is from http://tomfaranda.typepad.com/…..ugby_.html , whom I hope is making a full recovery from cancer.

]]> By: emptywheel http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512370 emptywheel Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:27:50 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512370 <p><a href="#comment-512311"><em>yellowdog jim @<br /> 240 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-512088"><em>emptywheel @<br /> 139 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p><b>Fitz and I have a rugby coach in common</b></p></blockquote> <p>do tell?<br /> intriguing.<br /> small world?</p></blockquote> <p>Not all that intriguing. I went to Amherst (and played rugby) not long after Fitz went. Men and women shared a rugby coach.</p> yellowdog jim @
240

emptywheel @
139

Fitz and I have a rugby coach in common

do tell?
intriguing.
small world?

Not all that intriguing. I went to Amherst (and played rugby) not long after Fitz went. Men and women shared a rugby coach.

]]> By: JoyB http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512369 JoyB Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:26:40 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512369 <p><a href="#comment-511977"><em>DELBERT MATHANEY @ 33 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>– IM SURE THERE SOME DISTATE ON FITZ’S PART — BUT HE’S GOING TO ‘PUNK’ LIBBY. AND HE WOULD HAVE CHENEY, WHO PULLED A GETAWAY…FOR NOW. THIS IS HOW THE NIXON WALL FELL OVER ON THEM, BRICKS AND PRICKS AT A TIME. THIS ONE WILL DO THE SAME TO THE CHENEYS’ BUSHS’ AND THE NEOCONS WHO HAVE HAD IT ALL RIGGED — THEY THINK. YOU DONT SUPPOSE THE LYING BASTARDS PRAY, DO YOU ? –</p></blockquote> <p>DELBERT! I love yah! I’m glad you brought your (presumably) “hairy white Irish a$$” out to play on this most important day!! Good Morning to you!</p> DELBERT MATHANEY @ 33

– IM SURE THERE SOME DISTATE ON FITZ’S PART — BUT HE’S GOING TO ‘PUNK’ LIBBY. AND HE WOULD HAVE CHENEY, WHO PULLED A GETAWAY…FOR NOW. THIS IS HOW THE NIXON WALL FELL OVER ON THEM, BRICKS AND PRICKS AT A TIME. THIS ONE WILL DO THE SAME TO THE CHENEYS’ BUSHS’ AND THE NEOCONS WHO HAVE HAD IT ALL RIGGED — THEY THINK. YOU DONT SUPPOSE THE LYING BASTARDS PRAY, DO YOU ? –

DELBERT! I love yah! I’m glad you brought your (presumably) “hairy white Irish a$$” out to play on this most important day!! Good Morning to you!

]]> By: looseheadprop http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512361 looseheadprop Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:09:29 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512361 <p><a href="#comment-512355"><em>Friend of J.R. @ 242 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>looseheadprop says:<br /> (216–I think it was)</p> <p>I can not speak too much, but I can say that Jesselyn Radack has been a beacon of light to some in the DOJ.</p> <p>I don’t want to say anymore or Gonzo may do what they did to Jesselyn and give them the Gitmo-light treatment.</p> <p>I will say that they persecuted her. They didn’t just fire her. And in that respect, I doubt anyone here is surprised. Afterall, even in 04, before I became aware of the politicalized environment in DC, I remember hearing that Clarke was going to get blacklisted for his book on Bush.</p> <p>But I do know that Radack’s book is an indictment of the Bush administration on many levels and the major book publishing companies refused to publish this hot potato. And of course the media has been silent (no surprise there).</p> <p>But Ray McGovern and a group of other whistleblowers has been trying to help her get her story and book out there. So if anyone lives in Olympia, WA–you can catch Ray McGovern and the book tonight at an Impeachment Town Hall. (It’s on the kos link.)</p></blockquote> <p>WOrdpress getting weird again. That is not a quote from me. However, I am a big Ray McGoven fan.</p> Friend of J.R. @ 242

looseheadprop says:
(216–I think it was)

I can not speak too much, but I can say that Jesselyn Radack has been a beacon of light to some in the DOJ.

I don’t want to say anymore or Gonzo may do what they did to Jesselyn and give them the Gitmo-light treatment.

I will say that they persecuted her. They didn’t just fire her. And in that respect, I doubt anyone here is surprised. Afterall, even in 04, before I became aware of the politicalized environment in DC, I remember hearing that Clarke was going to get blacklisted for his book on Bush.

But I do know that Radack’s book is an indictment of the Bush administration on many levels and the major book publishing companies refused to publish this hot potato. And of course the media has been silent (no surprise there).

But Ray McGovern and a group of other whistleblowers has been trying to help her get her story and book out there. So if anyone lives in Olympia, WA–you can catch Ray McGovern and the book tonight at an Impeachment Town Hall. (It’s on the kos link.)

WOrdpress getting weird again. That is not a quote from me. However, I am a big Ray McGoven fan.

]]> By: snuffy http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512356 snuffy Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:35:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/19/libby-case-prosecution-summation-and-rebuttal/#comment-512356 <p><a href="#comment-512353"><em>Cracker @<br /> 241 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>You ALL are crazy. Libby walks in less than 30 minutes. Fitz hasn’t even gotten close to making a case and EVERY one of his witnesses has serious memory problems. This should never have even gone to trial. If Fitz wants to make a case for illegal disclosure, he should have made that case. This one is a COMPLETE farce.</p></blockquote> <p>your name says it all</p> Cracker @
241

You ALL are crazy. Libby walks in less than 30 minutes. Fitz hasn’t even gotten close to making a case and EVERY one of his witnesses has serious memory problems. This should never have even gone to trial. If Fitz wants to make a case for illegal disclosure, he should have made that case. This one is a COMPLETE farce.

your name says it all

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