(Image of the "Rove View Mirror" in the NYTimes, via Bag News Notes. Fantastic analysis of the shot.)
Asked by one of Libby's lawyers if he had talked about Plame with anybody else before outing her in his column, Novak said he'd discussed her with a lobbyist named Richard Hohlt. Who, the lawyer pressed, is Hohlt? "He's a very good source of mine" whom I talk to "every day," Novak replied. Indeed, Hohlt is such a good source that after Novak finished his column naming Plame, he testified, he did something most journalists rarely do: he gave the lobbyist an advance copy of his column. What Novak didn't tell the jury is what the lobbyist then did with it: Hohlt confirmed to NEWSWEEK that he faxed the forthcoming column to their mutual friend Karl Rove (one of Novak's sources for the Plame leak), thereby giving the White House a heads up on the bombshell to come.…
After Novak first told Hohlt that he was working on a hot story about ex-ambassador Joe Wilson, Hohlt says he e-mailed Rove to expect a phone call from Novak. Then Hohlt began pressing Novak to learn the juicy details. On July 11, 2003, three days before the column was published, Novak gave him a preview copy. (Unknown to Hohlt, Rove had already confirmed to Novak that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA.) That same day, Hohlt e-mailed details about the column to Rove, and later faxed him the entire unpublished article. (Rove's lawyer confirms this account.) "I was just trying to be helpful," Hohlt says. His role as a go-between later earned him a visit from the FBI, but it stayed secret until now. And that was just fine with Hohlt, who says that his greatest accomplishment as a lobbyist has been "staying out of the press." Thanks to last week's testimony, his cover—like Valerie Plame's—is now blown.
Wonder if Karl was forthcoming with the Special Prosecutor, the FBI and the grand jury about this? If Luskin is confirming it to the press, one would hope so. I'll ask this question again: why does Karl Rove still have a high level security clearance?
(H/T to reader "DL" for the link to the Newsweek piece.)
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FITZ!!!!!
Now back to reading the post.
Reddhedd!
So, Bush must have known that liar…
Jack
That pic is closer than it appears.
Doesn’t it beg the question, why didn’t Fitzy indict Rover?
Do you think that Fitz has any other bombshells to drop? I was wondering about the sealed vs sealed, Jencks material, that Marcy spoke of on her website.
Bay State Librul @ 6
All in due time. Hopefully. He starts from the foundation and works his way up. Brick by brick.
it is truly bizarre rove still has access to information that can harm our country
he still has access to information that can get our covert assets killed
why the HELL is the cia putting up with this?
why the HELL isn’t rove indicted
I AM PISSED!!!
if fitz got information from rove and that’s how rove avoided indictment, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN WITH THE PREREQUISITE HE RELINQUISH ANY SECURITY CLEARANCE HE HAS
I’ll tell you what;
unless I can see some kind of secret understanding with rove, I am CERTAINLY disillusioned with this special prosecutor
perhaps when the pleas are handed down there will be an explanation that makes sense, but until I see it I cannot put to words how disappointed I am
Yes, WHY?
Bay State Librul @
6
If Rover told the truth in his many trips to the Grand Jury, then no perjury or obstruction charges. If he did not know, or have reason to know, that a CIA employee of the DO was probably classified, then no violation of IIPA. So no indictment for Rover.
Sad but true.
It looks to me that Holt, wittingly or not, was used by Rove and Novak to plug Rove’s leak.
I’m still sticking with Fitz and his strategy
but… if he had indicted Bush in June, the WH would have been immediately implicated and Bush
would be on the carpet and possibly impeached…
Time is of the essence, and the powers to be have managed to delay the final accounting…
How would we actually know if he still has clearance? It’s not like BushCo would tell us. Maybe he doesn’t.
Bay State Librul @ 13
Sorry, I meant indicted ROVE in June…
I’m afraid of the outcome of this trial – if Libby gets off, then BushCo has won and we all might as well go home, get off the blogs and pray to whatever power we believe in and hope for the best for the duration of this presidency.
If he gets convicted, then FDL needs to get a bigger server!!!!
ccmask @ 13
this is what I’m hoping for when I say perhaps there is a secret agreement between rove and fitz
that would make sense, information for discretion on fitz’s part would be a good deal for our country
beth meacham @ 11
The Citizenspook thinks all this hemming and hawing about the IIPA is just that and that it is the ESPIONAGE STUPID!
It seems to me, and unfortunately, that after Libby, Fitzgerald is through with the Plame situation. I don’t think there will be any more indictments. I hope I’m wrong.
Bay State Librul @ 15 – I liked the way you originally had it. “indicted Bush” has a nice ring to it.
karen allen @ 18
I think you are wrong
it looks to me like fitz went out of his way to implicate cheney
ir rove rolled, which it surely looks like he did, cheney would make tons of sense for the sealed indictment
Witney @ 16
I’m with you… a great depression will set in
my being…. since Bush v Gore, it has been all downhill, except for the Congressional elections in November… I’m hoping we are
on the way up with GOOD NEWS…. but I fear?
professional opinion from the lawyers please
if the jury hangs, does fitz retry?
perris @ 22
for sure, if fitz tries to retry, the president will have a very convenient excuse to pardon and he will get very little slack
The White House had announced that Karl Rove would step down from his policy post and resume his focus on the midterm elections.
This makes Rove a political hack, not a policy maker. Therefore, I’m sure he doesn’t have clearance. Is there a law somewhere that says loss of clearance should be made public?
If there is, there is a signing statement sitting in a basket somewhere.
I’m actually shocked at the idea that his reflection would appear in a mirror. I didn’t think that was possible for his kind.
ccmask @ 24
ya, I’m hoping that assessment is accurate…that makes sense
~:-) Hi cc!
perris @ 17
Maybe they’ll SAY rover no longer has clearance, but he still will have it; sorta like Rummy still has an office and a staff. It’s a snake pit.
rumi @ 25
good catch!
Hmmm, Snuffalong talks over VandenHeuvel, saying Bushie promised he won’t attack Iran… He promised, he really really did….
The apologies will be cold comfort to the dead and wounded based on yet another set of lies and distortions.
off to coneticut for a coupl’a days
catch all L8ter
perris @ 24
…or Gonzo gets another new AUSA for Ill. real fast. And get away with it.
And I still wonder what was up with Gonzo’s visit to GJ courthouse and Chicago. Obstruction?
Prairie Sunshine @ 29
wasn’t this one of hitler’s tactics?
sign a treaty then attack?
considering the patriot act is quite similar to the enablig act from hitler, hitler loved to attack helpless countries that he knew posed no threat, he loved to villainize and entire people, etc, the similarities are astounding and it doesn seem like he uses that regime as his motos operendi
Hi hippie–it’s been awhile.
FWIW, Scooter told the GJ that DeadEye told him that Bush had declassified Plame’s identity on 12 June 2003. Scooter’s handwritten notes would appear to confirm this. Declassification is a very formal process and in this case, it would have had to involve the CIA. Valerie and the world weren’t supposed to hear about it from Bob Novak in the Chicago Sun Times. My guess is that there is no paper trail of declassification dating back to 12 June 2003 and that will be where Fitz will go next, an IIPA violation against DeadEye, see for example footnote 112 in emptywheel’s ANATOMY OF DECEIT.
Despite his prior illegal actions, Karl Rove still retains his security clearance, and knew for WEEKS prior to London’s latest fake terror alert what was coming. The odds that Rove himself advised London precisely what time to make this announcement are approximately 100%.
This gave Rove the time necessary to plan a full frontal assault on the minds of the American People.
Bill O’Reilly revealed Classified information in his recent live interview with Mossad Agent Michael Chertoff. While Chertoff wouldn’t confirm or deny it, O’Reilly revealed that the FISA PROCESS was utilized to obtain warrants prior to placing wiretaps on some suspects in the US. While none of the suspects in the US was deemed to have been involved, this example was clear proof that the FISA Court WORKS – to the chagrin of Gonzales.
http://progressivedailybeacon……mp;id=1235
Neo-Con Madmen Strike Again – The London Fear Frenzy
Well before Wednesday the administration was aware of Britain’s plans to launch a raid against a possible terror plot.
With the knowledge of a terror-scare coming soon, all day Wednesday the entire Neo-Conservative Republican political apparatus had been busy assailing their political enemy’s supposed unwillingness to fight terrorism. On Thursday the Neo-Con assault intensified and finally peaked when news of the British scheme was made public. Then, in the most vile and unbecoming manner possible, Republicans accused Democrats of having forgotten the attacks of 9/11. Some Republicans were even gleeful enough to remind reporters that with the anniversary of 9/11 fast approaching their attack on Democrats, coupled with the London conspiracy would do wonders for their lagging poll numbers:
“Weeks before September 11th, this is going to play big,” one White House official said.
I have to agree. This supports Rove’s story that he thought Plame’s work at the CIA was known to reporters and that’s where the information was coming from; it goes along with the story that Libby supposedly told Rove it was Russert who passed along the information to Libby.
There is Novak’s use of the word “operative” in the article that still remains problematic for Rove – but he’ll just claim, like Novak, he thought it was a word of hype and not of significant meaning.
I would love to hear your speculation on What’s next. I’m guessing Libby will be found guilty. Then what? Is it over? Is there more to come? What of Cheney & Rove and all the other neocon ner-do-wells? Enquiring minds want to know. Any guesses?
Look George…here’s the deal.
The trick is to imply a certain reality, which just happens not to be true, without actually lying.
For example, when reporters ask for proof of a connection between 9/11 and the War in Iraq, remember this phrase:
“From that part of the world”
Use it whenever you need to obfuscate your way out of a tight spot…like this:
“”We know that people from that part of the world attacked us on 9/11, and we also know that Al Qaeda is operating in Iraq killing US Troops, and if we back down from this threat now, they’ll come hit us here again!”
See how that works, George?
The American people are just as geographically challenged and stupid as you are W, so all you got to do is mention “3,000 people died in 9/11 as a result of a strike that originated from THAT PART OF THE WORLD.
Works every time.
Love, Karl
John Casper @ 34
shiny object
cheney making believe he has the power to declassify on the fly, then making believe that includes cia agents status
libby actually affriming that cheney said the president said the nia was declassified, etc
verbal shiny objects all
Hm-m-m…
I just looked at the Newsweek article @ Novak & his mystery friend, and 1st thing to catch my eye (ADHD, sorry) was an ad at the top of a list on the right hand side, entitled,
“Male Depression. New Treatments”
I know. It’s not funny. But the placement was, well, interesting. Google’s humungous gears are grinding away busily out there, no?
“As people do better, they start voting like Republicans – unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing.”
Karl Rove.
I see they have unleashed Victoria Toensing. Any ideas why. Seems to me, she only appears when they are feeling confident. On the offensive.
Christy –
Unless Rove obtained information about Valerie Wilson’s covert status directly from Scooter (at a WHIG meeting, perhaps?), is it possible that he obtained information indirectly about her status after someone else with a security clearance leaked it to someone without a security clearance who in turn divulged that information to Rove? There are other possibilities…
Please ponder this conjecture: is it possible that Rove’s intended role was initially limited to damage control (cover up what happened, in other words) after someone else had already leaked her covert status? There are other possibilities…
Next week is critical.
It may be a watershed, waterfall or whitewash.
ok, reall got to go now, I am throwing myself out of teh building
see all later
We are still closer to the beginning of sorting out this complicated conspiracy than we are to the end of it. The Libby trial is just one of many that will piece it all together.
Maybe there are lines that Fitz can’t cross that others can
see ya later perris
Here is Joe Wilson’s response to an article claiming Karl could lose his clearance and that Wilson doesn’t have security clearance.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9899512/site/newsweek/
Joe Wilson Responds:
Just read your article on Rove’s perhaps losing his security clearance. In it you suggest that I almost certainly disclosed classified information but don’t have a security clearance to lose.
I suggest you reread the article I wrote. I was very careful not to disclose names of sources or anything that could be remotely termed classified. The names of my sources were disclosed by the SSCI report.
I suppose you could argue that the trip itself was classified, but then if you read my book you would have learned that I made it clear to the CIA that I would not undertake a clandestine operation and would have to clear it with the State Department and the ambassador in Niger, both of which I did.
While the trip was discreet it was by no means secret. By the way, the book itself was cleared by the NSC, State and the CIA before it was published.
I would never have talked about the trip itself had the administration not misused the information. In fact, I tried for several months to get the administration to correct the record to no avail before writing the article myself. When I did write the article I did not even mention the two other reports that had been submitted by our ambassador on the ground and by a four-star Marine Corps general, even though I was aware of them, since the rules covering them may have been different than those covering me.
I would appreciate your correcting the impression you have left with your readers.
Sincerely,
Joe Wilson
This says that three days before the article is formally published, Karl Rove knows that Valerie Plame will be identified as an “operative” at the CIA working on nuclear non-proliferation. That’s what Novak’s article revealed. Yet neither Karl Rove nor anyone in the White House lifted a finger to prevent the disclosure. No alarm bells went off; no warnings to the CIA, nothing to indicate the slightest concern for the effect on national security and classified operations. Instead, Rove probably went home and had a drink to mission accomplished.
ReneND at 40 Toensing and Barbara Comstock are thick as thieves. It is a PR offensive aimed at a pardon, arguing for jury nullification — which is legally and morally an appalling thing for a former DoJ employee to promote in any fashion. Period. She is a shill, and if she had any shame at all, I’d say she should be ashamed of herself. As it is, I’m certain she’s lined up a nice wingnut welfare paycheck to soothe her sarm job well done.
I’ll try to get to a substantive reponse at some point today or tomorrow when my migraine subsides. But with this headache I woke up with this morning, it won’t be soon.
And from the same article, here is John Dean’s response:
John Dean Responds:
I just read the piece on the removal of Rove’s classification authority. A couple of points. First, Clinton’s [Executive Order] 12598 was superceded on March 23, 2003, by Bush’s E.O. 13292. Section 5.7 is now 5.5. But more importantly “classification authority” is a defined term [in] both orders.
In Clinton’s order (and Bush’s is virtually the same): “‘Original classification authority’ means an individual authorized in writing, either by the President, or by agency heads or other officials designated by the President, to classify information in the first instance.”
Removal of access to classified information has no “at medium” requirement, rather it is discretionary: “Sanctions may include reprimand, suspension without pay, removal, termination of classification authority, loss or denial of access to classified information, or other sanctions in accordance with applicable law and agency regulation.”
In short, it is anything but clear that Rove will have his security clearance taken away—although he should.
John Dean
Former White House counsel
new thread (already?)upstairs…
Christy: What is the E.O. 13292- signed by Bush on March 23, 2003?
perris at 8:33 am
IMHO, they’re shiny objects for Scooter’s trial for perjury and obstruction, not for an IIPA indictment against DeadEye.
scarecrow at 47:
On July 11, 2003, three days before the column was published, Novak gave him a preview copy.
snip
This goes to the document that says July
1812 that Libby tried to connect with the declassification? Oops.Wow, great image. Hmmm, I was wondering the significance of this persons name was when it was liveblogged. It was brought out by the defense for whom Novak testified. Now the interesting reason given was to suggest the information (Plame Wilson CIA nepotistic junket connection)was out there and well known in the Washington elite A-list cocktail weenie circuit and why Libby easily could have learned it while hanging out at this cigar smoking club. Maybe that’s where Mr and Mrs. Greenspan heard about it. So as we have all suspected this Kew Kids club circuit filled with media groupies is official…and even has a name. I’d love to see the members list here….my guess is Woodward might even sit on the board of directors (unofficially of course). Perhaps this is where Mr. Novak was coming out of when he met that friend of Wilson’s on the street when NOvak told him about Wilson’s wife. So this is the Klub were politics and media worlds collide or should I say collude.
But the fact this came out from Novak who has tight and past history to Rove in leaking stories tells me something else here.
Imo..This might have just been a preemptive move by Rover & Cheney et al (with a green light given to Novak to divulge this)to see if Fitz would take the bait and play a bit more of his hand regarding what he knows on this issue. Fitz didn’t bite. Or perhaps also kkKarl is still out there and no doubt in close communication with Novak. They need to get on the same page with this story….just as we learned that Libby and Novak talked to each other before GJ and FBI testimony. Plus, the fact that we are now aware that Rove had a copy of this story with her name and front company in it that was to be published even before it was shows a more deliberate intent for outing Plame.
I used to think that Libby’s trial really was the end of the criminal aspect of this story. Now I’m not so certain. Plus add in the obvious pushback against Fitz and the trial as a whole is still in full force with Comstack’s group leading the way….now I really think that there is more to come out of Fitz’s office..and that is why the Cheney Administration is so obsessed with this trial and Fitz.
ReneND — btw, this isn’t the first time the “pardon” trial balloon has been launched by Boris and Natasha. See here for more.
Thanks ccmask at 8:35.
Christy and/or other FDL’ers:
Have you done any analysis recently as to the implications on Fitz’s investigation of the Libby jury’s decisions either way – guilty or not guilty?
If Libby is NOT guilty, is Fitz done? Does he close up shop and turn off the lights?
If Libby is GUILTY, what, if anything, might Fitz do next?
AND BIG QUESTION: If Libby is guilty, how does that impact his future involvement in Fitz’s investigation? i.e., if Libby is guilty, is he compelled to cooperate with Fitz? What are Libby’s obligations to the Gov if he is found guilty? How does Libby’s conviction clear up the logjam that Fitz encountered?
Thanks to all for continuing excellent discussions of all things Fitz!
Executive Order 13292
Fresh thread, everyone. eRiposte has a great dissection of Libby’s grand jury testimony — excellent read.
the following is something the neo fascists just ignore;
the only good thing that’s come out of this entire ordeal is the fact that I knew nothing about Joe Wilson, knew nothing about his service, his wife’s service and just what an incredibly loyal patriot to this country the ambassador has been and now I do
“why does Karl Rove still have a high level security clearance?” Pertinent query. Which perhaps begs the question: why does Rumsfeld still have a desk at the Pentagon?
you guys do realize that Novak’s article was on the advance wires in hundreds of newsrooms 3 days before publication right?
karl at 61 — it’s a nice talking point, but you do realize that whether or not it was on the wires, Karl Rove had an affirmative duty to check to see if information that he was passing along was, in fact, classified and whether or not the person to whom he was passing it had a need to know? And whether one person or several people knew about this information, it does not absolve him of his obligations to do so and not to pass on or confirm in any way information that was classified. Don’t you?
Oh, and further — you also have an affirmative duty to notify classification folks and the CIA that an agent’s identity is about to be publicly compromised so that they can initiate procedures to protect assets and other agents in the field. Did Rove do so? Isn’t it worth asking — repeatedly — until we get an answer?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 66
Absolutely.
you also have an affirmative duty to notify classification folks and the CIA that an agent’s identity is about to be publicly compromised
you mean like Novak did?
karl @ 68
Novak has a security clearance too?
karl at 68 — Does Novak have a security clearance? His notification was of the “I’m checking on this, and will decide what to do once I talk with you” variety. Once he decided to publish, and once Rove knew of publication contents, Rove was required under his SF-312 obligations to notify the CIA that there was a potential classification breach. Did he do so? Whether or not someone else had done any heads up does not relieve anyone of their obligations. Did he? Dunno. Should we ask? Yes.
Did he send a copy of the article to the CIA to let them know exactly what and how things were to be compromised when he received a copy from his lobbyist pal? Dunno. Should we ask? Yes.
I love watching asshats getting theirs handed to them by brilliant people.
I’m just sayin’…
Novak has a security clearance too?
I don’t know…did Harlow ask him this before confirming Val worked there?
Journalists are prevented from having any clearances. Their right to ask questions comes from the public’s “right to know.” Once they have any clearance, no matter how slight, they are no longer 100% dedicated to the “public’s right to know.“
rumi @ 26
photoshop?
karl at 72 — I dunno. Did Novak misunderstand the “you shouldn’t write about this” part of the conversation deliberately — or was his stupid so great that he just took the steno from Karl and ran with it regardless of the consequences? You ever work around folks who do undercover work or journalists who cover it — because it seems to me that when someone at the CIA says “don’t print this” you should really listen to them. And yet, still, none of this relieves Rove of any of his SF-312 obligations. Did he go through the proper channels and do the required notification? Dunno. Should we ask? Yes. Why? Because the laws and regulations require him to follow the laws and regulations OR lose his security clearance. Which he still has…why, again?
The regulations and laws apply to everyone. Wherever they work, whomever their friends are, and Rove is not exempt from them just because he and Shrub are close. Period.
John Casper @ 73
Judy Miller claimed to have one. I would think folks like Woodward and Pincus have had them too. CIA has integrated into networks like CNN in the past. I would also guess that at a minimum, every reporter embedded overseas would be required to have one. I think that’s the govt’s way of controlling the information. Once a clearance is established, the responsibility for protecting information is inherent. That’s also why the conspiracy used ‘journalists’ to spread the word.
Elliott @ 74
It would have to be…heh…airbrush the garlic clove necklace hanging from the rear view mirror.
:-)
ccmask @
25
So far the magic signing statements have ‘worked’ because they have not been challenged. Anyone know how or by whom this would be done? US Attorneys being hand-picked, ditto federal judges and Supreme court. Scarey.
As Laura hasn’t given it up in years, W ’s been doing Condi, Harriet and Rover. Those eyes, those lips, that tush…
mr ed – I remember seeing some comments from Jack Abramoff interviews that portrayed Jack as being hurt at Rove’s refusal to be seen with him in public. Jack also made some disparaging remarks about Rove that seemed a little too personal for the context.
I dunno. Did Novak misunderstand the “you shouldn’t write about this” part of the conversation deliberately
Once Harlow uttered the words “she (Wilson/Plame) had not authorized the mission.” the cat was out of the bag…the correct response would have been “no comment”
see Daily Howler for a balanced view of the Novak/Harlow conversations.
karl at 81 — Agreed that the correct response from Harlow ought to have been “no comment.” But it still does not absolve Rove from his affirmative duties in this regard. And it still doesn’t explain why the man still has a security clearance. One does not negate the other — they are separate and apart in terms of facts and obligations.
Rove has immunity from further prosecution, does he not? So why not give him clearance? Only public pressure could take away his “clearance” at this point.
And why is rumsfeld still allowed his top security clearance and taxpayer funded flunkies to help rumsfeld destroy evidence of his crimes and complicity in the destruction of our armed forces and murder of our soldiers?
But it still does not absolve Rove from his affirmative duties in this regard. And it still doesn’t explain why the man still has a security clearance
Does Armitage still have his security clearances? Harlow?
I’m reminded of that “Kids In The Hall” skit where Dave Foley is on the stand, brashly lying through his grinning teeth to questions from the prosecutor, then saying “This is SO easy!!!”
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5zD20gbHF8s
When did it become an inside joke for multimillionaire neoconservatives to violate an oath to tell the truth? What is it about a Grand Jury investigation that makes it harmlessly funny to lie to them?
If Libby or any of these guys gets pardoned, then we’re really no better than any third-rate monarchy, and have been kidding ourselves all along.
Let me see if I’ve got this right:
Rove knew in advance of publication that Novak was about to reveal a national security secret — the status of Valerie Plame’s CIA role — and he failed to take action to prevent it and that’s a crime.
Right?
I am tired of the jibberish day in and day out … with no answers to anything … and while the talk continues the action continues by the same ones the talk is about.
karl at 85 — Neither Armitage nor Harlow still work for the US government in official positions. Karl Rove continues to work as President Bush’s top advisor. But I would hope that Richard Armitage will never again be given a top level security clearance, just for the record. Nor anyone else who blabbed classified information in this matter.
I wonder if Hohlt got a preview of Novak’s subsequent column in which Novak disclosed the identity of the CIA front company used by covert non-official-cover CIA operatives, like Valerie Wilson, in their intelligence gathering activities overseas? And Rove, did he also get a preview of this additional “leaked” information Novak was going to reveal, further compromising our national security by outing a CIA intelligence gathering network?
What a tangled web the neo-con traitors have spun.
Hopefully, Patrick Fitzgerald will be able to unravel it all and bring all the ones responsible to justice. All of our CIA operatives, and their families, as well as everyone else in our intelligence communities need some type of assurance that all the guilty parties in the Bush administration are held accountable, and removed, so they don’t do anymore damage, or endanger anymore of our intelligence operatives, who lay their lives daily on the line to keep our nation safe.
Isn’t it terrific when all the information comes out?
Wouldn’t it be neat if our commercially provided media journalism could get ‘er done?
When the Rich corporate interests aren’t so apparent to the public then we just suffer, but when their interests become publicly known and we’re suffering, then somebody oughta pay … big time.
——
I think the CIA guy who talked to Novak didn’t ‘out’ Plame because she had worked in another capacity at the Agency which was NOT covert. Telling someone she worked there wasn’t a problem at all. And, telling Novak she didn’t send her husband was no big deal either. It’s only her covert role and purpose which the Bush admin apparently divulged and then when they learned Novak was going to write about it they also apparently did not inform the Agency of this breach of secrecy, and that’s probably a crime too.
They are deep in turd blossoms.