No, really ironic. Not just the faux kind in this Alannis video. But the Faux kind.
Murray Waas has a new piece out in the National Journal and it's some of his best work. It looks like Cheney's insatiable need to plug every leak came back to bite him…Of course–when the White House leaks it's fine…
At the time of Cheney's phone call in June 2002, Graham and other lawmakers on the Intelligence committees suspected that the vice president viewed the leaking of the NSA intercepts as an opportunity to try to curtail what he believed were nettlesome congressional inquiries.We now know that Carl Cameron of FOX News got pissed at Shelby (I've posted a few articles on him) because he leaked the same information to Dana Bash at CNN that he received earlier and she ran it very quickly. When an investigation started, Cameron sang his little heart out and told the FBI what Shelby did out of petty jealousy and anger. He wouldn't testify in front of a jury, but he opened his mouth to the FBI. That's the way to protect your sources Carl. FOX can always be your trusted source of news.
The incongruity of a Faux story plant turning out to be one of the threads that unravelled in the web of deceit and cover-up that Dick Cheney was trying to spin surrounding the NSA domestic wiretapping and all the lies that paved the road to Iraq...that Faux News would be part of this unravelling? Perfect.
Scarecrow highlighted part of this article already this morning, but there is a point that I want to emphasize from the excellent reporting that Murray has put together on this case. Really, excellent investigative journalism, as always, in pulling together the disparate threads of this saga. Murray really drops a bombshell in his piece, one that walks us right up to the reason that an independent investigation of the leak of Valerie Plame Wilson's name to the press was started...which led us right back to the office of the Vice President and Dick Cheney. From Murray:
Moreover, Graham recalled in an interview for this story, Cheney warned that unless the leaders of the Intelligence committees took action to discover who leaked the information about the intercepts -- and more importantly, to make sure that such leaks never happened again -- President Bush would directly make the case to the American people that Congress could not be trusted with vital national security secrets."Take control of the situation," Graham recalls Cheney instructing him.
Graham told the vice president that he, too, was frustrated over the leaks. But his attempt to calm Cheney down was unsuccessful.
On that morning in June 2002, Cheney could not have known that his complaints to Graham about the leaking of classified information would help set events in motion that eventually would lead to the prosecution of his own chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, as the result of a separate leak investigation....
And when Graham received Cheney's phone call nearly five years ago, he had no idea that the vice president was not acting on impulse or entirely out of anger. Although administration officials have said that the White House was legitimately concerned that the NSA intercept leak could harm the war on terrorism, they also saw the incident as an opportunity to undercut congressional oversight and possibly restrict the flow of classified information to Capitol Hill. Libby, two administration officials recalled in interviews, was among the aides advising Cheney on this strategy of neutralizing the Hill.
So you sow, so shall you reap. In this case, as Graham points out at the end of Murray's fantastic article, Scooter Libby is the direct recipient of a boomerang from Vice President Cheney's intragovernmental warfare strategy. I wonder if Libby has bothered to notice at all that he's still dangling out there alone on the hook, another casualty in Dick Cheney's war against balanced government and the Constitution? And for Dick Cheney, is the unilateral executive so important to him that he was more than willing to sacrifice his right hand man for the cause? Because it certainly seems to me that this is exactly what he's doing at the moment.
That all of this came about at the hands of a Faux News reporter who felt scorned and Dick Cheney's overdeveloped need for protecting his own ass and covering up his own lies and obfuscations and machinations and actions through whatever hardball tactic is available in the moment? Well, it may not fit the textbook definition of irony -- but it certainly is a delicious serving of just desserts, isn't it?
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Fitz!
Karma.
It’s the law of unintended consequences, and my favorite part of this somewhat scholarly link is here:
The article itself leans somewhat right, which makes it even more delicious that it so accurately describes the ballad of Shooter and Scooter, which, now that I think about it, needs to be penned, perhaps to the tune of the Beverly Hillbillies theme?
You ponder Cheney’s motivations thus: “I wonder if Libby has bothered to notice at all that he’s still dangling out there alone on the hook, another casualty in Dick Cheney’s war against balanced government and the Constitution? And for Dick Cheney, is the unilateral executive so important to him that he was more than willing to sacrifice his right hand man for the cause?”
But that’s what Cheney would call the high road. Isn’t it interesting that while he’s developing strategies and theories that distort our history and our future, he and his “friends” (don’t shoot!) are making mountains of money out of raping us and the rest of the planet?
He’s interested in the “unilateral executive” only as long as that executive works for him.
Halliburton: It’s the answer to everything.
It’s all off the record, according to NBC News Washington bureau chief Tim Russert.
The Appeal in the NSA spying case is pending here in Cincinnati with the 6th Circuit Court.. An ACLU attorney in the courtroom had an interesting and spot on take:
James Madison, architect of the U.S. Constitution, co-author of the Federalist Papers and later President wrote: “If tyranny and oppression come to this land it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.” The statement is as true today as it was 200 years ago.
Frankly, it is all chilling. And all reminiscent of the abuses of the CIA, NSA and FBI during the fight for civil rights, the opposition to the Vietnam War and the Watergate cover-ups in the 1960’s and 1970’s. I had thought we had put this all behind us. Apparently not.
Madison also wrote: “The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive and judicial in the same hands, whether one or many . . . may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.”
Let’s hope the Court of Appeals agrees.
Posted by John Paterson
This is the other BIG trial going on right now that might affect the employment status of certain higher ups in the Executive Branch. As far as I can tell, arguments are concluded and we are awaiting a decision.
So, part of the truth about 9/11 was basically the rationale used to keep Congress in the dark about a whole host of issues the VP ‘briefed’ on? [Sen. Rockefeller’s note to the Admin that he kept a copy in a safe place, for instance] I swear, the baby is being drowned in the bathwater every day. The more I find out, the more outraged I am. And Gonzo cooking up ever more ‘novel’ legal tactics….
Libby, Rove, Cheney, Bush. And Gonzo.
Impeach ‘em. Or demand mass resignations, pls.
[and real AUSA appointments, too]
I am tired of you jerks trying to bring the President down. He is back on his game. Read my latest piece of stenography from Karl Rove.
-Dean Broderella
Looks to me like Cheney is getting penned in like a quail.
GSD @ 8
Well, of course, he is looking at THE numbers, so he would know.
A Little digging gets you this:
From the WaPo:
White House Is Reported to Be Linked to a Dismissal
By DAVID JOHNSTON
Published: February 16, 2007
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02.....ref=slogin
Two points make this article credible to me.
First Waas has been an excellent journalist throughout these dark ages of the Bush regime.
Second, the subject of much of his interview, former Senator Bob Graham, is one of the most honest and reliable people ever to hold public office.
I tend to believe this account.
hizzhoner
Boo-boo - The above article was from the New York Times.
Murray Waas rocks, so big and so bad, and thank god he does!
Carl Cameron is a snitch? I think there needs to be a meeting of the reporter’s ethics panel.
Glenn debunks Broderella.
[but trying to get the link got complicated for this CPU]
Salon.com
Cameron’s wife is a Bush pioneer or something to that effect. He is an Opie Taylor version of Tony Snow.
Hack, lackey, flack.
-GSD
I’ll repeat my question from yesterday: Does this shed any light on why Fitz didn’t call Eckenrode at the Libby trial? Could it be that a whole lot of people tried to obstruct Eckenrode, and Fitz doesn’t want to have that card on the table just yet?
Not to be a downer or anything, but none of the things listed in the Morrisette song are ironies. They are disappointments, not ironies. Irony would be if Allanis Morrisette had used a dictionary.
Frank at 18 — Most likely, it’s because Eckenrode was the agent taking most of the notes in the early interviews and there are issues that Fitz and his team want off the public table for now that would have been subjct to cross-examination in those notes. That’s why you have two agents present during questioning in a matter that may turn out to be a conspiracy investigation — well, one of the many reasons, anyway, because that also allows for double testimony for back-up if you need it on rebuttal in a case, among lots of other issues.
Here’s Joe Conason in today’s Salon, on nepotism, cronyism, and corruption involving the Cheney family:
Blank Kludge @
16
Here’s a link to Glenn’s post at Salon.
Frank Probst @ 18
Bingo!
I think Fitz is very methodical, laying out only enough information to get the job done at this rung of the ladder before moving on up and playing the other cards in his hand. My only concern is that he has, in fact, layed enough information out against Scooter in order to make that jump to the next level. But maybe Eckenrode’s testimony wouldn’t have aided with the obstruction charges against Scooter anyway.
Blank Kludge @ 16
Try this (though I’m a subscriber - don’t know how non-subs will be treated).
Frank Probst @ 18
And I wasn’t able to keep up with those various flying fingers from Prettyman…any word on the 200 or so pages of ‘unarchived’ emails? That Gonzo/Card may have tried to delete?
Bustednuckles @
9
VP plus Potato(e) = “DICKTATER”
He’s sacrificed alot more Americans than that. Untold numbers of “furriners” as well. Lord Cheney, indeed.
mudkitty @ 19
Granted, rain on one’s wedding day is a bummer. It’s not like being left for dead with your ankles pierced on the side of a hill for fear that you’ll someday grow up to kill your father and wed your mother, only to have that very action precipitate those exact events…or anything.
Broken record alert, Why isn’t Murray Waas on TV?
This is an incredible story.
It is interesting that in both of these
plantleak cases, it was REPUBLICAN operatives who did the leaking. And the irony, the irony of Cheney calling up Graham to threaten him because a Republican member of his committeeset upleaked to reporters.In other words, after seeing what we have learned from the Libby trial about the way the VP
bulliesworks, I don’t think that is such a stretch to wonder whether Shelby was out planting info at the VP’s behest? So ok, they intercepted a wire on 9/10/01 and didn’t translate it until the 12th–it is not as if that is the most damaging element of what the Bush admin did not do to prevent the 9/11 disaster. What Cheney et al were really concerned with was that the 9/11 commission would learn about and reveal the ways in which the Bush admin REALLY f*cked up.Anyway, I think this little tidbit uncovered by Waas is only the tip of the iceberg, and I hope that more will be learned.
And good for Graham for speaking on the record to Waas. Finally, a story with meat in which sources are quoted by name.
No more desserts for Cheney.
mudkitty at 19 — which would be why I said the following in my post: “Not just the faux kind in this Alannis video.” As in, the ironies in the Alannis video are not so ironic. This video cracks me up every time for that reason. And the play on words from faux to Faux was too much for me to resist. *g*
scarecrow @ 21
Oh, Scarecrow, damn your faster posting self!
mudkitty @ 19
I think some of them are ironic. A free ride when you’ve already paid. 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife. So it wasn’t a total bust.
i’ve been listening (although not continually) to the house “debate” on the iraq war escalation. there are have been some good bits, and i appreciate that the “debate” is happening…
but after all these hours… all i can think, is that we are governed by morons.
i’d like to send a bunch of them to remedial class… they can start with listening to this forum (from cato, yikes!), “The War on Terrorism Five Years after 9/11“:
at least they could learn about the causes of suicide terrorism and learn to NEVER focus on islam as having anything to do with it. first, they would learn that it is untrue… and second, that using religous language about the conflict may feed into the underlying causes of suicide terrorism (which is, as a second order cause, religious difference between the occupying power and the occupied). ackkk!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 31
Ahh…Christy, hard in wordSmithing!
Nervosa @
4
Scooter is not just a loyal aide who is being thrown under the bus. He is not a subordinate who is being abandonned to twist in the wind. He’s a principal as much as Cheney. Scooter not only signed the PNAC, helped write it. He (w/Wolfowitz and Zalmay Khalilzad) wrote the 1992 Draft Defense Planning Guide. Now Murray Waas is not saying he was busy ‘neutralizing the Hill’ wrt classified info. This is not a poor little lamb who lost his way. And he’s not being loyal to Cheney, he’s sticking with the plan, just as ony other member of this team would. “As always, should any member of your team be caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow all knowledge of your actions.”
There is no victory here. Scooter takes a time-out and the plan proceeds without interuption.
BTW, I have omitted links as there is a ton of googleable stuff on all these, you can pick the one(s) that seems most reliable to you.
johnSwifty at 35 — Well, that was awfully punaise-ian of you. *g* Good one!
I wish Glenn Greenwald would get out of the fever swamp and become serious.
-Dean Broderlla
Christy,
Over the past few days there has been a smattering of comments suggesting that Fitz has more up his sleeve.
This is not unusual.
What I found interesting is this: some of the comments have suggested a rising belief among the D.C. reporter class that we are on the cusp of new charges from Fitz. In other words, the rumors are on the increase, or at least that is what a few comments here have suggested.
I realize that you do not traffic in rumors, nor should you.
And, of course, I won’t ask you to discuss anything you have heard.
However, I was wondering if you could tell us generally whether you’ve heard an increasing number of reporters speaking, off the record, about the likelihood of probable new charges from Fitz.
For the sake of my own curiousity, I just want to gauge whether there is a rising buzz in the D.C. rumor mill about imminent further indictments or the widening in scope of the Fitzgerald investigation.
*xyz at 39 — Well, I’ve been home and not in DC, so it’s tough for me to say. I’ll let you know, though, after I go for summations on Tuesday what I’m hearing, if anything. It’s been Fitz’s pattern in the past to do just that, bit by bit, but not in every case that he has prosecuted. So, I think it’s safe to say no one knows anything for sure — but that a LOT of information got laid out on the public table during testimony, and a whole helluva lot of it points directly at Dick Cheney.
HotFlash @ 36
You mean if Scooter takes a powder, Wolfowitz won’t immediately relinquish control of the World Bank and the major money movers currently hard at work with the “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” plan won’t suddenly stop their evil machinations and military buildup for world domination? Darn!
Is there any chance that Fitzgerald has Cheney in his sights but will be going slow on it? I’m thinking like an after January 09 time period?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 37
I figure he’s sleeping late on the west coast. I play at being a magician whilst the sorcerer is away.
The only thing I can say in response to the Murry Waas piece is: Cheney>Haague.
Now they’re discussing right-wing “humor” on the Sam Seder show. It’s a scream.
Dick Cheney is fighting WWW3 to protect the American way of life. We need the Oil and Neocons have developed a wonderful theory that stipulates we are entitled to it. If Cheney has to sacrifice his right arm to be successful, he will because he’s a fighting man, for
truth,justiceand the american way from the perspective of neocon right.Thanks Christy!
The rumors of the D.C. reporters and inside-the-beltway gossip about Fitzgerald’s next move are not only a source of curiousity for me, but also, I would guess for Libby himself. Even if buzz is nothing but rumors, such rumors, if believed, could influence whether Libby decides to cut a deal. If Libby believes, for whatever reason, that Fitzgerald has more charges in his pocket for him, he might be more inclined to cooperate.
O/T, but important:
LOOK! REPUBLICANS CALLING FOR CUTTING OFF WAR FUNDS! THEY’RE NOT SUPPORTING THE TROOPS!
(But of course it was against a Democratic president, so it was OK.)
yahoo reports number of deaths in iraq down yesterday due to surge
Windows sight expectations are much too high
turnover prognosis for windows vista down
Dow down
Balmer diagnosed yesterday that certain predictions of some analysts are much too high
Good point outs Christy. Dark Side Darth embodies the whole antichrist theory.
Also: slight typo at the end, it is “just deserts” with one ’s’.
Joe Conason in Salon says MSM cares more Mary Cheney’s gayness than about the dnagerous actions of Cheney’s son-in-law:
On the subject of MSM:
Someone in a thread yesterday implied that FDL was celebrating its being legitimized by MSM, referring to the front-page NYTimes article on FDL live-bloggers at the Libby trial.
This ties into the age-old debate about the paradigm hegemony v marginality, the core and the periphery, the center and the margins. Using this paradigm, MSM would represent hegemony/core/center, and FDL marginality/periphery/margins.
The Italian theorist Antonio Gramsci’s theory of hegemony has argued that hegemony has to be contested and won, and not be taken for granted. Do people want FDL to be on the margins forever or contest the hegemony of MSM?
The point is that the left blogosphere (and FDL in particular) has been challenging the politics and practices of MSM. So the front-page NYTimes article yesterday is simply recognizing the value of this challenge, implying that this challenge may be succeding. The blogosphere’s challenge is transforming MSM’s politics and practices.
But what people should keep in mind is that despite the NYTimes article, FDL will continue doing what its doing: focusing on the short-comings of MSM in the way it goes about news gathering and news reporting.
Phoenix Woman @ 47
Saw that — IOKIYAR The hypocrisy, it burns.
johnSwifty @ 41
Yupper! Since the world won’t INSTANTLY become perfect, we all might as well should just give up and either kill ourselves or go out and do our darndest to destroy the morale of those who are actually working to effect positive change!
AZ Matt @
11
ThinkProgress reports the following this morning in its ThinkFast section:
*xyz @ 46
I think someone else already pointed out Libby has probably accepted his role as the fall guy. The harder he goes down, the more difficult it is to step over him. I don’t know what kind of concoction they cook up to drink from the skull in the Skull and Bones club there at Yale; but, it sure seems like it’s heavy on the fealty juice.
OT, sort of: Looks like the Italians aren’t happy about us kidnapping someone on their soil.
Frank Probst @ 18
If it is so, and they’ve got good evidence, then Libby is just the first crack in the Hoover Dam. Damn.
Could someone fix the headline on Scarecrow’s excellent piece? It now shows Murry Waas.
johnSwifty @ 41
Prolly not. But hey, Congress is busy protecting us with a potluck debate of a non-binding resolution. To my astonishment, my Rep (Candice Miller, R-MI10) says she’s voting for the resolution and her reasons are all good, Repub reasons. Essentially, surge is too little, too late, lt’s declare victory and (presumably) go home. Hope this’ll give some cover to other Reps — and Dems — who are regretting their AUMF votes.
Phoenix Woman @ 53
Phoenix Woman, are you talking to me?
CatelynK @ 58
My typing. I’ll fix it.
Alanis Morrisette’s song ‘Isn’t it Ironic” has always bothered me. Where is the irony in rain on you wedding day or a black fly in your chardonnay? Well, perhaps the irony is there is no irony.
As for Cheney, Like Hemingway said in ‘The Sun Also Rises’: “What’s all this irony and pity?Who got it up?” We know it was Cheney. It would be nice if he had to pay for having done so. “Isn’t it pretty to think so.”
Biodun @ 51
And spotlighting truly exceptional work like Murray Waas’ in contrast to the senseless dreck the MSM reports. It is a sad commentary when the most patriotic of souls in the media is simply a man like Mr. Waas who is doing nothing more than his job, very, very well.
Steve @ 54,
For the heat the WH is going to be taking on this I think that they might be a wee bit upset that Tim Griffin backed out.
ccoaler @
48
Martial law, closing borders, numerous checkpoints. Of course that will happen.
The nick is will there be a return to the status quo once the troops are removed.
Or how will Iraqis respond to a prolonged military cordon of their city.
-GSD
Christy: GReatttt reporting on the Fibby trial. I have a question re what you said on Seder show this a.m. to the effect that those reporters called by the defense to say Fibby didn’t talk to them about Plame were the more skeptical reporters who are more likely to ask questions. But, was the jury made aware of this? (Even though I think that that line of “defense” was a sack of shit anyway.)
Frank @ 56:
Well, that’s the first step. Do they have to collect the indictees before they can have a trial (IANAL, Italian or otherwise)?
From the LA Times this morning:
Libby defense skirted conspiracy theory
The former White House aide’s fate in his perjury trial may rest on a lack of evidence — and the fact that he did not testify.
By Richard B. Schmitt, Times Staff Writer
February 16, 2007
http://www.latimes.com/news/na.....ome-nation
uptown at 66 — Yes, that came out in the testimony in terms of how they grant or don’t grant anonymity or “off the record” or “background” reporting questions. The contrast between Judy Miller’s policies, for example, and those of David Sanger and/or Walter Pincus was really striking for me in terms of their respective testimony.
thanks Christy. makes sense.
*xyz @
46
If the rumors you’re reading are posted online, can you provide links, please?
Joan Walsh at Salon today, on the leftist blogosphere as a “movement” in its challenge of MSM’s hegemony, and how it ties into current politics:
Phoenix Woman @ 53
Hardly a valid response. I think, rather, one might continue focusing said morale on the larger issues at hand. To cut off a minor head of the hydra, like Scooter, has an affect to the great story of our time, but is it actually effecting a change to the larger machinations being played out on a world stage. I postulate that perhaps it is not, not so much. It might not even be a dent. The rest of our system of government has still taken quite a hit and we have a long, long way to go to reset the balance of power in the branches of congress, much less the balance of power in the world arena. To think that more has been accomplished in the Libby trial than really has been, THAT is a dangerous prelude to a loss of morale. I am wary of that, forgive me.
BTW, as I predicted earlier, the execution of Saddam Hussein is coming back to bite Bush in the ass. The Iraq war now has no boogie-man. Extensive interviews with a key focus group (my mother, who voted for Bush twice) have revealed that Americans are now asking: “Why are we still over there? What’s left to do? We’ve killed Saddam. We’ve killed U-day and Qu-say.” (And we never found any Eapons-way of Ass-may Estruction-day, I remind her.) Unless someone spots Osama bin What’s-His-Name running down the streets of Baghdad, it’s unlikely that my mother is going to flip back to Bush’s side.
Hi Christy. My question keeps getting lost at the bottom of threads. I’ll try again.
In his closing statment, can Fitz (or the other prosecutors) refer to the fact that the defense claimed (or at least inferred) that they’d call both Cheyney and Libby? I know he can’t imply that Libby’s reluctance to testify = guilt, but can he say something to the effect of “The defense promised we’d hear from them. What happened to that?” If he could, would he want to?
Also, does anyone know if they’ll be room for visitors on Tuesday. I’d love to go, but I’d rather not travel from NYC for nothing.
Thanks again for all your amazing work and coverage of this trial!
P J Evans @ 67
I don’t think they do. I’m not an Italian trial expert, but I think they can be tried even if they aren’t in the country. In a way, I sort of feel bad for them. Yes, they did an awful thing, but they were presumably acting on orders. I would guess that our CIA agents in foreign countries are people who like to travel in the first place. It’s hard to retire and go on a European cruise when you’re wanted for kidnapping in Italy.
Crazy Horse posted some explosive info last week (?) about the German Press stories regarding letting Osama Bin Laden excape twice (US said “let him go” to the French who had him cornered) I haven’t noticed any coverage of this in the MSM either here or in Britain. Anyone else see anything? (Don’t think this is OT since Frank Probst’s comment about Osama…)
Part of the irony in this story is the complete lack of ‘ownership’ demonstrated by Cheney for a leak within the NSA. I thought the NSA reported directly to the White House. Isn’t the NSA run and administered by Poindexter? And are not these two guys (Cheney and Poindexter) holdover, handholding, leftovers from IranContra? Why call Graham and not Poindexter, Goss or Shelby directly? Were not the Republicans in control of Congress at the time? Why call a minority committee head and threaten them if the Dems didn’t have control of the Congress anyway? Then, to add the irony, the investigation turns up a Republican as the alleged leaker and the investigation runs out of steam. Sheesh! Just when it was getting interesting. My point is, Cheney could have ordered an investigation on his own. Can’t this guy carry his own water?
johnSwifty @ 73
Thanks, John, you put your finger on it (apologies to the Swopa thread). This is progress but it can be washed away so easily if we underestimate the opposition. Time is short, the stakes are high, and there has been very little improvement wrt the integrity of our vote counting. If we can’t get that fixed we will be back to square one in Nov 2008.
Alanis can’t sing either. She screeches and yodels (badly) and the lyrics are mind-numbing banalities. Her fans sure love it tho.
Biodun @ 72
This woman seriously doe not get it? There is no ‘movement’. It is just people telling one another what they know and hoping we can together hammer out the truth that we thirst for.
AZ Matt @ 11
Is anyone really surprised that there was a direct link to the WH? Perhaps maybe that it has taken this long to expose its exact path…
So, who’s wondering what other turds the WH snuck into legislation last year that have yet to bloom?
Fresh thread for everyone.
AZ Matt @
68
Caveat emptor. The headline there is a bit misleading, I think. The “lack fo evidence” he’s talking about in the article is the complete failure of the defense to show any attempt by the White House to throw Libby under the bus. The article is NOT about any lack of evidence against Libby.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 69
You didn’t mention Russerts standards, or should we call it “standard”. Everything is off the record, including and especially how you order your coffee.
Pat at 85 — Well, yeah, that was abysmal all by itself. But we’ve talked about that so much over the last coupla weeks, I guess I considered that one a given. *g*
There’s stuff accumulating in the air: Critical mass. The Libby trial; FDL’s coverage of it; front-page NYTimes article on FDL’s coverage of it; the controversy surrounding the two feminist bloggers working for Edwards; MSM’s role in how BushCo took the US into a pointless war: all pointing to political and media practices leading to 2008. We’re witnessing a truly interesting moment in contemporary US history.
HotFlash @ 79
Never underestimate the power of the dark side! You’ve got that exactly right.
And apologies to Phoenix Woman for my terse response. Occasionally, like with puns, I play with satire and fail, miserably, such that all I am left with is sarcasm. I apologize if I was confusing.
As long as we the people allow our government to operate in secret and keep secrets from multiple lines of review, we will not be a Democracy. Regardless of how many good people with good intelligence (and good intentions) exist, we now see it takes only a few bad apples to spoil the system for all with deadly consequences.
Consider how many countries, like Italy today, are considering or actively pursuing in a criminal court crimes of rendition and torture conducted by us! I for one am both thankful and embarrassed that this has to occur.
When Cheney said on Meet The Press that we were going over to the dark side, we were already there and had been for decades. (Although he most certainly encouraged the worst of that side).
How can we trust a secret branch of government who doesn’t trust us, who has no reasonable accountability or even an open door as to what their budget is?
Let us rip the doors of secrecy from their hinges and start anew. It’s as important as hand counting of paper ballots imho.
Sparkatus @ 82
Turds don’t bloom. They either stink up the place to where you take them out and bury them (and maybe end up fertilizing the garden), or they dry out to where you can burn them. Either would make them more useful to the country than they currently are.
Christy, I missed your appearance on Sam Seder’s radio show this morning. Does he post audio of his shows so that those who missed it, can listen later? If so, would you post a link here on FDL so your fans (who slept in) can hear it? Thanks!
Neil @
91
If you have iTunes, this may get you what you want: Sam Seder
..it doesn’t look like they have posted today’s show yet.
Neil @ 91
They might have a broadcast link later, but beware the Air America site is currently being hit heavily due to Big Ed Shultz and Sam Seder’s ongoing war in pompous assitude. Sam has a nice open letter on the site proving, in matters of pompous assness, his East Coast courtesy will loose to Big Ed’s testosterone laden wind bag tactics every time.
mui@45 made a funny:
Five deferments Dickhead Cheney a “fighting man.” The irony, the humor, the disgust!
He could have one fight if he would be brave enough to join me alone in a locked room. When I come out I’ll bring his mechanical heart with me so that it can be recycled to someone with use for a heart.
Oh yeah, back off of Alannis peoples, she rocks!
Probst @ 74:
Explosive milk thru the nose comment! BTW, Ig-pay Atten-lay is a great way to speak in code in front of non-native English speakers. However, Arabic speakers have their own version, and that might be all they have to do to foul up any attempt by non-native Arabic speakers (US gov’ment) to get around any fancy-schmancy de-coding process.
“WASHINGTON, Feb. 15 — A United States attorney in Arkansas who was dismissed from his job last year by the Justice Department was ousted after Harriet E. Miers, the former White House counsel, intervened on behalf of the man who replaced him, according to Congressional aides briefed on the matter.” AZ Matt @11
According to Think Progress:
“Tim Griffin, the former Karl Rove aide whose appointment as U.S. Attorney in Arkansas helped spark an outcry over the politicization of federal prosecutors, has announced he will not accept the position.”
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“Looks to me like Cheney is getting penned in like a quail.” Bustednuckles @ 9
and publicly humiliated and exposed. I don’t see a bright future in his cards.
poetic justice
n.
The rewarding of virtue and the punishment of vice, often in an especially appropriate or ironic manner.
HotFlash @
36
Agreed. Libby will come out of this, after his pardon, with a fellowship at the American Enterprise Institute. The only thing he stands to lose presuming he is found guilty will be his being disbarred. This will only be a “flesh wound”.
Ask and ye shall receive.
The Ballad of Irving Libby
Come and listen to a story ’bout a man named Irve
Workin’ with Dick on a war plan with nerve
Gonna start a war with lil’ ol’ Iraq
And get themselves a heapin’ helpin’ of Black
Oil, that is. Sweet sweet crude.
Well the sold their war with W. M. D.
But once the dust had settled, it was plain to see
That Iraq had no nukes hidden in the countryside
And a former diplomat started sayin’ “Bush Lied”
Sixteen words, that is. SOTU.
So to paint this Wilson guy as a man of ill repute
Ol’ Cheney said “Go out and call reporters, Scoot!”
So Scoot outed Valerie to reporters that he called
And wound up in court in the sights of Fitz-ger-ald
Patrick, that is. For Perjury and Obstruction.
Y’all come back with a guilty verdict, ya hear?
Original lyrics
Bilge ->
Ballad of Irving Libby = EXCELLENT
I’m adding it to my song book
Bilge at 106
That is wonderful! I’ll be singin’ all day. Thank you!
hizzhoner @
12
I’m joining this party late, so hizzhoner may never see this, but I do believe that you’re confusing the two Senators Graham. Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL, retired) is indeed the kind of person you say he is. However, the article was in reference to Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-GA?). While Sen. Lindsey is honest and reliable, as Republicans go, he is still very thoroughly Republican, and subject to all the limitations thereof.
Bob in HI
http://www.democraticundergrou.....215;220174
.. JEEZUS
Cheney threatened to end “all cooperation with the joint inquiry by the Senate and House Intelligence committees on the government’s failure to predict and prevent the September 11 attacks”?
Why the hell did Graham go along with this? Why didn’t he or SOMEONE say, “Wait a minute, Mr VP, there are serious national security questions raised by the handling of that intercept that TRUMP the WH’s desire to cover it up!!”
The Repugs, the Dems…they wimped out when the WH started threatening them. They betrayed this country to the very bastards who knew what was going to happen and did nothing to stop it.
That is UNFORGIVABLE….
Well, it might not be fair to say that he went along with anything.
But isn’t it interesting that we once again find Cheney very concerned about hiding what the NSA was up to BEFORE 9/11.
Particularly when, years later, he would claim that had the (illegal) NSA “terra surveillance program” been in place before 9/11, the attacks may have been prevented.
It seems that the attacks easily could have been prevented, Mr. Cheney…