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(Photo of the Library Lounge of the St. Regis Hotel in Washington, D.C. Just the place for a cozy 2 hour tete-a-tete coffee during a busy work day, eh?)
After all of the build-up, the tedious long-winded discussion, and the meticulous questioning by Libby attorney John Cline of witness John Hannah, prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald stood up for cross-examination and, suddenly, the spectre of the St. Regis by morning and Judy Miller reared up in all their glory. To wit:
On cross-examination from Special Counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald, Hannah acknowledged that a crucial part of Libby's job was to defend Cheney's office in the media."It would be important to push back on those issues, yes," Hannah said.
Fitzgerald scored a key point when Hannah acknowledged that it was very difficult to get even an hour of Libby's time in any given day. In prior testimony, Libby has said he spent several hours with New York Times reporter Judith Miller in meetings in the St. Regis Hotel's dining room and in his office trying to rebut Wilson's claims in June and July 2003.
"So, during the time of all these threats if he gave someone an hour or two of his time . . . it was something Mr. Libby would think was important, correct?" Fitzgerald asked.
Hannah agreed.
"Is it fair to say that what was important to the vice president was important to Mr. Libby?" Fitzgerald asked.
Said Hannah: "Yes, that's correct."
Libby must be awfully tired of the root rot his aspens picked up from that one two-hour breakfast with Judy, wouldn't you say?
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Fitz and Christy!
Oops–typed too fast and didn’t proofread.
Emptywheel!!!!
Christy–is there any chance that the trial will be delayed, or even cancelled today because of the weather.
Everything’s shut down here in Central Ohio.
OhioTex at 4 — Far as we have heard from the courthouse this morning, everything is on schedule. They are starting a bit later this morning — 11-ish — but it’s open and set to go. In Federal courts, the individual judges determine scheduling unless there is some weather emergency for the roads declared. I hear the DC weather sucks, but isn’t unmanageable today. Will let everyone know if that changes.
Beautiful cross by Fitz. The forgetful Libby knew what was ultimately most important, smearing anyone with the temerity to contradict Cheney by telling the truth about WMD. Defending Cheney’s lies took precedence over defending the country against terrorism. How many hours of Hannah/Wells BS went down the crapper with just a few minutes of Fitz’s incisive questions on cross? Hooray for Fitz!
So that’s where Judy & Libby got it on, huh? Pretty cozy place. Expensive coffee, no doubt. But, I guess Libby can afford it seeing he has two jobs. Does he get two paychecks, I wonder?
Morning! Snow emergency here, it’s drifted up to 5 feet on my front door. Not looking forward to shoveling, I may have to outsource that. How’s every else making out?
Almost felt like Hannah was a prosecution witness.
Twisted Martini @
9
Yuck.
I live in Vegas, where weather is against state law (but where failing to drink and smoke are felonies).
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Haha I thot you were making a suggestion where the trial bloggers could meet and talk. It looks…cozy.
legaleze at 7 — It was awfully fun, wasn’t it? Concise, to the point, and cut right through the BS in a very spare amount of words. Brilliant strategy to do so in such a spare fashion — great contrast to the tap dancing verbosity of Cline’s direct, I thought.
And, btw, I have found both Jeffress and Cline to be very organized and meticulous in their questioning — Wells is more loose, and his style is not my preferred trial style, so it’s tough for me to comment on him without that clouding my opinion that he appears disorganized. But that may be a calculated tactic to confuse the jury — it’s hard to tell, but it just has felt so disorganized.
Am hoping to find time to do a detailed analysis of the opening statements later this week, if I can get the time to finish them — it’s been illuminating going back through my eighteen pages of notes from the openings and the evidence presented thus far, let me tell you.
We are still waiting to see if the court will be open today. Ice storm.
From previous thread:
Libby trial info:
Washington is a bit dazed from an ice storm. We are waiting to hear if our trial will be on today or not. The schedule was documents to be filed no later than 9:30 for the judge; legal arguments at 11:30; jury to sit at 1:30.
The jury was told they don’t have to come in Thursday. Friday the court handles matters other than this trial. [What? There are other matters??] Monday is a holiday. Tuesday is supposed to be closing arguments, but I don’t see how they can do that if the jury doesn’t get what they need today.
[and]
In court they are arguing whether, in light of Libby’s decision not to take the stand, the 3 CIA briefers should still be permitted to
scare the living daylights out of the poor juryexplain in detail that Libby was handling Very Big Important Scary Matters regarding ScaryRealTerrorist Threats to the Nation and had no time to think about Wilson. Except for all the documented time, now in court evidence, that he DID work on destroying Wilson.That was a tasty cross examination. Bright shiny objects? What bright shiny objects?
Kind of makes you understand why Libby and Cheney might be reluctant to take the stand.
Christy, since we’re all sittin’ back here relaxing and enjoying the snow [unfortunately unable to convene @ the St. Regis for a spot of tea], could you explain a bit about the “sealed indictments” Fitz has?
How does this work? Why are they sealed? How are they “unsealed” and acted upon?
And “Ladies,” I hope you have a chance to travel up Connecticut Avenue to the Politics & Prose bookstore (and perhaps, Marcy, have a little “chat” with them). P&P is the site of many C-SPAN book talks. The place is owned by women and a great venue. And so much closer to me re coming to see you.
Many, many thanks for your True Journalism. My son is a freshman journalism student in college. I send him links to your coverage almost daily. And I’ve delivered a few “talks” to the Dean of the Journalism School re “old” vs. “new” media.
Many thanks and much aloha.
ccmask @ 8
Don’t know, but he got at least $2 million for getting Marc Rich a pardon from Bill Clinton, something one never hears about from the right wingnut welfare kings and queens who were so vocal about the pardon when Clinton issued it.
legaleze @
7
Totally agreed! That question blew the memory defense away. I wish I could have seen the defense team’s faces.
Here across the river from Firedog courtroom team, it looks slick. Maybe an inch of what looks like sleet overnight.
Twisted at 9 — Holy smokes! 5 feet! I might be tempted to crawl back under the covers and wait for a spring thaw! (LOL)
Do take it slow, though — we had a huge blizzard a few years ago and the house we were renting had a mile-long driveway. Shoveling that out was no easy picnic. *g*
Good mornin’ firepups,
Yep, cold and icy here in DC. But after Fitz’s cross yesterday, I’ll bet Scoots was feeling a little chill, anyway.
I’m staying home from work today. So if Walton opens his courtroom, I guess it’ll be all Fitz, all the time for me. (Like it wasn’t when I was at the office. *g*)
And after all those hours he spent with Judy, Judy, Judy - he didn’t even get a lousy article out of her.
I got married at the St. Regis. It is quite nice and almost on top of the White House.
Yesterday they were trying to make Hannah’s testimony stretch to say that the Busy Days in question might have been some of the most important, critical, and urgent in the history of the nation. For goodness’ sake, there was a CRISIS IN LIBERIA. Oh. Well hey, there was a CRISIS IN TURKEY. And the Vice President [”of the United States Government”—as they were fond of repeating] actually had to make a telephone call to Turkey.
So they were Busy, see?
The Q and A for Hannah reminded me of a church litany. Do you believe in the Father? Yes. Do you believe in the Son? Yes.
Did the Office of the Vice President devote a large amount of time to A? Yes. And “”"”"” to B? Yes. And so on thru the alphabet. Wished I’d kept a count of the number of such questions.
He was a regular one-man State Department. Say, don’t we have one of those somewhere?
Who picked up the tab? (clarification: at the St. Regis?)
Twisted @ 9
Raining on the south shore of Long Island. Some ice earlier but it’s long gone. Maybe it will freeze up again tonight. IOW it’s a beautiful day outside.
egregious @ 12
You did good yesterday. How you holding up?
… WOW! Just as I was typing 2 HUGE tree branches came crashing down outside from the weight of the ice that hasn’t completely melted yet. Gotta run and get the camers…
Twisted Martini @ 9
We have a lot of sleet and freezing rain but not much snow, which is unusual for Danbury (the snow belt of Connecticut)
Christy Hardin Smith @ 20
No, that is just the drifts against my front door. Total was only about 15 inches, which is still a hell of a lot for Central Indiana. My neighbor called and said he’s got a snowblower, so my task got easier!
The Decider is having a new conference soon. Will anyone ask him about his previous Plame outing posturing? It’s test time for the MSM.
Seems like some of the witnesses for the prosecution like Judy, were more helpful to Libby’s defense than Mr. Hannah was as a witness for the defense. Fitz did a slice and dice on Hannah Barbera. Oops!
All you guys on the East Coast-it’s coming! Hunker down with a little FDL and let it snow!
TPhilip—Yesterday I was so excited I almost couldn’t breathe. I had trouble blogging at the lunch break from mania. This is not a literary device, I am bipolar.
Today while we are waiting to see if there will even be court, I am down to the level of not being able to sit still. I keep getting up and pacing. Hey, it’s exercise.
Christy, when did your power come back?
Badwater @ 29
They fail the test. Why bother watching?
Mauimom at 16 — Well, I don’t know that we know that Fitz has any sealed indictments, as he’s never said so. Because he cannot say so, otherwise they wouldn’t be sealed anything — the moment you talk about them, you break the seal. (There is a reason sealed indicments are held very close and secretly.)
There has been some speculative reporting on whether Fitz would or would not have things under seal — like plea agreements, indictments, immunity deals, and the like — but if they were for Libby’s case in terms of witnesses who have testified, they would have to have been disclosed to Team Libby as witness information. (Unless, of course, it was information about a defense witness, in which case that doesn’t have to be disclosed unless and until that particular witness actually takes the stand.)
How this sort of thing works in a typical prosecution case — say in a drug conspiracy prosecution, for example — is that a number of co-conspirators are rolled in as cooperating defendants and witnesses. They can enter a plea deal (a plea to an information, for example, so that they plead before they are indicted by the Grand Jury) and/or can be indicted secretly and then have this placed under seal as the investigation into the conspiracy continues. This is done sometimes to gain the testimony of people involved in the conspiracy as the investigation continues on up the ladder to the person at the top of the criminal conspiracy.
But, again, we do not know if this has or has not happened in this case. I have no information one way or the other from any of my contacts about this, and I have spent a lot of time trying to verify all of the rumors that have swirled around this investigation. (I take any rumor that I cannot verify with a HUGE grain of salt, btw, and suggest that everyone else does the same. Unless I can personally verify something, I am always a skeptic.) All we can do is sit back and see where things do or do not go from here — but if there are sealed matters and further proceedings in this investigation, we’ll likely know soon enough. But, again, I have no knowledge that there are, indeed, any sealed matters connected to this case — and that is because the folks investigating this have conducted themselves properly and kept their mouths shut about secret grand jury matters, as they are supposed to do.
Badwater @ 29
I bet they won’t. Or, maybe one relatively softball query that begets the std pissy ‘can’t comment on a legal proceeding’ deflection.
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OT-Did you see that Bush will meet with the press at 11:00 today. I can’t help but think that everything is a game to these people. They pick a day with treacherous weather just to be difficult.
I’ll wager that Bush makes a joke about the reporters having to slosh through the snow and ice to get there.
TPhillip @ 26
I refuse to take responsibility for those tree branches.
I’m holding up enough here. :)
I was under the impression that Scooter and Judy had an affair or what that just metaphorically speaking..
egregious - I know, that’s why I asked :) Steady as she goes, eg, steady as she goes. You are courageous to plunge yourself into that atmosphere, I’ll say that.
Jay @ 38
The long mea culpa that the NYT finally put out [sorry] about Judy all but spelled it out in print. To say anymore would have violated a lot of standards.
egregious at 32 - It went on and off several times yesterday — there was apparently a tree limb across the lines somewhere near our house that kept causing a problem when the wind moved it around. I’m hoping we don’t have that same problem today — although we’re getting a bit more snow on top of a layer of ice at the moment.
A lot of folks were operating yesterday under the assumption there were sealed indictments. I sort of knew it was just speculation on their part. Thans for clearing that up, Christy.
Thanks Christy. It was Cline on direct, I had assumed Wells. The contrast you mentioned seems to run through this trial. Fitz incisive, focused always to the point; Wells and his team, rambling, shambling all over the place, lots of crap thrown against the wall hoping something sticks . . . . My impression of Wells gleaned from emptywheel’s trial notes, is that he has a forceful personality which he employs as his primary persuasive tool. Wells wants to put the focus on himself and away from his client, this time Libby. It’s as if he thinks he’s some sort of Svengali. But based on the juror’s questions of Hannah, it doesn’t look like anyone’s fallen under the spell.
Christy,
The other case Judge Walton was doing yesterday was “Sealed v. Sealed”. Jeralyn was chasing that one down so you might contact her for the details. We think the rescheduling of our trial yesterday from 1:30 postlunch break to 2:30 was because of the snow “transportation emergency”. S.v.S. was supposed to be heard at 3:30. Jeralyn thot the case might be Hannah, now that he’s finished. As it were.
How I know it was this case, it was printed on a piece of paper by the courtroom door.
After “listening” to John Hannah, it makes me wonder what the POTUS does all day. Sounds like Scooter ran the world
Thank you so much FDL for the coverage of this important trial. As usual the MSM has either dropped the ball or carried it in the wrong direction.
I think Jane, Christy, Marcy, Swopa, Pach, Jeralyn and the rest would really look good having coffee in the pic above (ST. Regis), but then all us pups would probably have to quit commenting and just keep pushing the PayPal button.
I’m financially challenged, or I would be pushing the button, but I am trying to convince myself that I can afford to order “Anatomy of Deceit” and have it imported into Canuckistan.
egregious @ 14
Are you at the court house eg?
Do we (or can we) know if TYOI testified before the grand jury?
I was wondering about the fact that neither Scooter or the Shooter will testify. I had always thought that they’d only testify if the defense thought that things were “close”, that they had a chance of pushing it over the edge toward aquittal (or at least a hung jury) by testifying — and that if it was clear Libby was going to lose, or clear he was going to win, they wouldn’t.
I just wonder — does reality permeate the Libby bubble, or is it possible that they think they are winning decisively already?
Fairfax @ 45
You can pose a model of government that is essentially monarch plus prime minister. The monarch comes out and gives speeches, the prime minister runs the government. Just because we have bad people in these positions doesn’t undercut the model.
Btw did we ever get the capability to use the plus sign? Test: . End of test. Back on the wish list, looks like.
Lindy @
25
not-so-wild guess: you & we did… sigh…
egregious, now on the bench with TEAM FDL. Gets better all the time.
Reading Anatomy now. Punch ‘n Judy, Judy, Judy. What a show.
Anyone see Frontline last night? Sorry, late to party, missed all day yesterday, no time to read back yet.
egregious at 44 — Yeah, we’ve all been trying to chase down details on that one for ages. But no one has been talking. I have gotten some hints that there may be something more to come, but nothing solid and I hate to even speculate as to what it might or might not be — because it might be something as simple as an announcement of the close of the investigation or it might be further indictments, or…well, the possibilities are endless. I find it best to just wait until we hear something directly from Fitzgerald or someone on his investigative or legal team because, truly, they are the ones who control what we do or do not get to know on this. And thus far, they haven’t said anything on whether this is done or not done…and so, I wait. *g*
Cold, icy and folks are moving slow here in south/eastern Ohio. I was in Boulder,Colo during the three big snow storms in December and January.
Americans sure are committed to burning fuel they insist on driving (filling their tanks with the blood of people that die due to our need to access) even when they do not have to. Walk? Forget about it!
This morning Tony Snow responded to General Pace’s comments about the lack of “hard evidence” to support what is being said about Iran. Snow said that “General Pace is welcome to speak for himself”.
How can we forger when Cheney went on MTP just after Iaea’s El Baradei told the world that the NIger Documents were false and completely undermined what El Baradei said…
The Bush administration and the neocons (that have never been held accountable for the false pre war intelligence) are marching (these chickenhawks have never marched a day in their lives) towards Iran….The Clean (fucking bloody) Break has not been completed.
Fairfax @ 45
He’s the Play President. He was, recall, simply appointed to provide cover for the looting of the federal by cronies. His tenure was just gonna be an ongoing all-you-can-embezzle buffett below the radar until 9/11 made him self-appointed Savior of Humanity.
Adie @ 51
Actually, I read somewhere that Libby is always very careful to pay his share of any meals/drinks with cash. Following *that* law to the letter, which makes it all the more interesting that he didn’t pay attention to the laws re classified info, perjury and obstruction of justice.
TPhillip @ 33
The decider’s qualifier was “anyone who leaked classified information”, he was emphatic and repeated it - classified information with his teenage boy smirk. This is what they believe gets Boy King off the hook. The leaked info was insta-declassified. In other words, they declassified the name of a covert agent and then leaked it. Nobody has to pay the piper. Rove gets to keep his job. Will the press press? I doubt it.
For the record I sat about 12 feet away from Libby. He looked at me several times. I tried to examine whether I felt anything spiritual, whether good or evil, incuding when he walked past me a few times. Nothing out of the ordinary.
theExile @ 46
By all means, order the book. It’s so helpful in understanding all the ins and outs of this case. And it reads like a novel–I couldn’t put it down.
CHS—rumors abound.
egregious @ 44
Intriguing.
ok, you are libby’s attorney, and you are talking to your client;
you; you’re toast
libby; I paid you 5 million bucks, what do you mean?
you; scoots, you’re toast
libby; well, I think I can expect a pardon
you; not likely, if you get a pardon then cheney’s toast because you are forced to testify against him without any 5th amendment
libby; what do you advise?
you; we’re gonna see what the prosecution is going to offer
libby; what do you mean?
you; they don’t want to spend more resources on your appeal, they don’t want to take a chance the jury hangs, and you are not the person they are after
they’re gonna ask for some information and give you a plea deal for purjury, 6 months probation…but you are gonna have to throw a number of people under the buss
libby; rove?
you; no, rove already rolled,they don’t need anything on him
libby; cheney?
you; uhyup
libby; how much time do I serve if I don’t roll?
you; we don’t know, fitz has more up his sleeve, if he gets this conviction you are probably going to be implicated in his other indictments as well
libby; I’m toast
dab—Not at the courthouse yet, at chezEgr waiting to hear if they will be open. I live in the suburbs.
Thad at 49 — You know, I’m fairly certain the lawyers on the case are making their decisions based on solid, tactical analysis. My impressions of all the attorneys on the defense end is that they are, to a person, quite sharp and well aware of how things are going in the courtroom. Jeffress, especially, impressed me quite a bit, and he seems to be very much the realist on tactics. Where things stand with Libby personally? No idea, because I didn’t have a lot of interaction with him. But I’d say he has had to confront a lot of reality in speaking with his attorneys and has already faced down the spectre of a possible guilty verdict well before they went to trial — a good attorney prepares their client for all the contingencies before they ever step foot in the courtroom, and Libby’s team has a lot of trial experience. (You also do that to insure that your client can’t sue your ass later for not disclosing all the risks, but really you want your client to have ALL the information in order to make an informed decision about their defense through the WHOLE process.)
libby; I’m
toastdead. I’m a dead man.[CHS notes: I’m certain that you did not intend this to sound like a threat, but merely to describe Libby’s state of mind as being morose. But please, let’s all be careful how we phrase things in a public forum. Nothing that sounds like a threat in any way. We have a lot of folks reading the comments, and I would hate for something to get misconstrued by a law enforcement officer who would then be required to show up on your doorstep and investigate. If you get my meaning. Thanks.]
Ok, went outside to see what the inch of stuff is. Alexandria is basically coated in an inch of snoopy snow cone shaved ice. Too bad we don’t have any syrup.
BobbyG @ 55
Ok, then. What I want to know is just who are these “cronies” and can we have them shipped to Baghdad as part of the splurge - er, I mean surge.
13,000 more potential targets being freed up for Iraq:
Maybe Bush will get a presser question about this great domestic economic news.
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The other case yesterday, I mean what would be important enough to INTERRUPT OUR case? Kind of like getting Grenier out of his meeting with Tenet…not so common.
The court has the capacity to hear other cases on Fridays. So why this one is the exception? Pardon my word order, I’m still a little on Russian grammar.
Christy Hardin Smith at 13 says:
What do you think of the idea of you being there again just for closing arguments. That way you could examine and contrast both.
Whattsup with the other Cowboy Imus?
He is smearing Joe Wilson
He should keep his fucking mouth shut…
Jack
hackworth @ 57
We keep batting this theory around, and it makes sense from a legal standpoint, but it’s not going to pass the “smell test” with the casual viewer. If he really did insta-declassify the information, then why didn’t he just say so? Why have we had a federal prosecutor on this case for the past 3 years? (Rhetorical questions, btw.)
Did you see Nightline last night? They are covering Plamegate, the role of the press and the Libby trial. I think this is a 4-part series but not sure. Good coverage. One of the key points that hit me was in talking about the confidentiality that the press gives to sources, but which the courts have now said can be challenged by subpeona - as we all now know! Anyway, a key point was that in the past the press did not automatically offer confidentiality to sources, but that has changed - as Russert demonstrated on the stand - and that is one of the key problems. By giving confidentiality to all sources - not just whistle blowers - the press has become complicit in providing the government’s talking points and spin and has become corrupted. Well, my take anyway.
Always interesting to read about winter in the lower 48 from up here in Alaska, where the winter racing season - dogsled, snowshoe, Nordic ski, snowmachine, bicycle (!!), you name it - is in full swing. The governor’s husband, Todd Palin is halfway through the 2,000-mile Iron Dog snowmobile race, with his team in first place. Our son, ET, Jr, has two more ski races left before his last HS season ends.
No big storms here or in the offing. Yet. Winter is long.
CHS—Jeralyn has a fantastic idea for predicting what the defense will do for their closing argument. She is great, I was so glad to meet her.
Christy: would standard practice be to unseal after the conclusion of a related trial, or after appeal?
Or is there no real ’standard practice’ with sealed indictments?
As for Sealed vs. Sealed, I hope that Mrs Sealed gets the house and the yacht.
TPhillip @ 42
TPhillip, there does appear to be a Sealed vs Sealed indictment from the GJ in cold storage. However, it’s a Jason Leopold story, he’s not considered credible around here.
Thad at 49, I’m with you. No way Team Libby thinks things are going well. They know that the odds are against them and that testifying will only make matters worse. Here’s the problem for the defense as I see it. Wells has made credibility the central issue. But Libby and Cheney’s job was misinformation and propoganda, i.e., lies. So with Fitz in the role of the Terminator destroying every defense witness in his path, Team Libby knew better than to take the stand and be shown for the absolute liars they are. I posted this before, but it’s worth repeating. There’s a saying, “Better to be thought a fool, then to speak and remove all doubt.” We can paraphrase that saying and apply it to Cheney and Libby as, “Better to be thought a liar, then to testify and remove all doubt.”
BobbyG @ 68
If ? is posed he’ll blow it off w/platitudes, perhaps a smirky non sequitur or half-joke. There will be no follow up per usual.
modthinglet @ 23
Was it something else before it was a St. Regis? I grew up in DC and don’t remember it.
Scooter’s reputation doesn’t fit the image I have of him as being a milquetoast. After loving Cheney for hours every day, I wouldn’t have thought he had the time and gusto for Judy. As for Scooter being Cheney’s sidekick, Libby may be just the antidote for the h***-raising Mrs. C.
egregious @ 44
Oh *YES*!
I meant the Frontline series (PBS), not Nightline. Here is the link
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newswar/
Christy Hardin
Smith @ 34
Thank you for explaining this in peasant terms. So do you consider Jason Leopolds articles having to do with Rove’s sealed indictments “grains of salt”?
Another question.
Why are White House officials or others able to continue to work if they have received immunity?
egregious at 69 — Well, pretty much any case with an emergency in negotiations, in a need for an immediate revocation of a plea deal due to bad conduct on the part of a defendant…there are a buttload of reasons that a judge, on a tight schedule, might need to schedule an emergency hearing for another case.
BTW- Feith has an OpEd in the WaPo this morning.
Dougie!!! Like a rock, only dumber.
Never mind, Dougie, that they were right, and you were wrong. Call the waaaaaaambulance.
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perris @ 62
Instant classic, perris!
theExile @ 46
Perhaps you can ask your library to order it, and provide them with the purchase details.
egregious @ 58
Are you saying he has no soul?
Ann at 70 — I’d like to be there, but The Peanut had a rough time when I was gone that first week. Mr. ReddHedd and I are trying to figure out logistics for a possible trip for me again. But there are things that have to be worked out to do that and, frankly, The Peanut comes first.
BobbyG @ 68
Those tax cuts just keep on working! It a good thing the Decider has that MBA….Did he actually earn it or did his father get it for him?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 84
Judge Walton called it a “transportation emergency”.
Also it interests me that we were supposed to adjourn early, at 3:30, so that this other case could be heard. What could be so important that it would stop our trial for the day, what couldn’t wait until Friday like all his other stuff?
BobbyG @ 68
Any reason they can’t just make a car that people want to buy, like a Prius?
Those tax cuts just keep on working! It a good thing the Decider has that MBA….Did he actually earn it or did his father get it for him?
Whatever. Pretty much ever since it’s been W/F. Withdrew/Failing from every job he’s ever done.
Jwoods @ 88
No I’m saying the opposite. I do sometimes feel a spiritual void in people but that didn’t happen despite my being quite open to it and testing several times.
Frank Probst @ 72
I been saying that all along, e.g., what I’ve been sending my reps and the papers:
If the details comprising “getting the full story out” were [1] so utterly within Bush/Cheney’s declassification authority and [2] so friggin’ vital to the national interest, then [3] why not simply call a White House news conference and announce it to the entire press corps and the nation? Why the necessity to leak it to this or that favored reporter? And then stonewall out the wazoo to keep the leaks under wraps? If it was all so proper and lawful, why the need for all the lies culminating in perjury?
We know why. Some things in life are indeed relatively simple. These people committed high crimes and misdemeanors by using classified information for purely hardball, vengeful (”Plame-is-fair-game”) political ends. I intend to be a broken record on this point to Reid, Ensign, and Porter.
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egregious @ 63
North VA?
I used to live in Bethesda & Rockville, MD (20 years). I miss the D.C. area and am thinking of moving back there
HotFlash @
77
I don’t believe he’s considered credible around most places.
bg @ 52
YES! I did. Just happened to blunder into their promo, so was transfixed, watching & listening, till the end.
Wayyyyy too much judyjudyjudy trying ever-so-hard to play the wounded heroine. I now have a far better idea why so many firepups have a visceral, negative to her style of “journalism?” and ethics-schmethics.
Still half the program yet to air - isn’t that right? Anyone know when?
Christy, Marcy, Jane et al, would love to hear what you make of the Frontline program. To me it seemed far less clear than FDL or Fitzie, in their attempt to draw all the loose strands of plot together. My eyes glazed over at times, but maybe because it was so hard for me to watch judyjudyjudy & way-too-woodward tootling their own selfrighteous horns. strong gag factor here whenever they appeared…