
The Bush Administration continues its efforts in the all-important No Big Money Crony Left Behind program:
The Securities and Exchange Commission has begun to take steps on two fronts to protect corporations, executives and accounting firms from investor lawsuits that accuse them of fraud.
Last Friday, the commission filed a little-noticed brief in the Supreme Court urging the adoption of a legal standard that would make it harder for shareholders to prevail in fraud lawsuits against publicly traded companies and their executives….
Critics said that the moves signaled a major retrenchment from the post-Enron changes and showed that a lobbying push by big companies, Wall Street firms and the accounting industry was gaining traction as they seek to roll back what they see as onerous regulation and excessive investor litigation.
But Christopher Cox, the chairman of the commission, said in an interview Monday that both efforts were in the best interests of investors because they aimed at preventing the accounting industry from further consolidation and at limiting what he called “fraudulent lawsuits,” including some he said were filed by “professional plaintiffs.”
Institutional investors and some analysts expressed alarm at the developments, noting that the number of shareholder lawsuits was declining significantly. “It is clear from these actions that this is a commission intent on reversing seven decades of rule making, by Democrats and Republicans, that have protected investors and opposed shielding auditors,” said Lynn E. Turner, a former chief accountant at the commission and the managing director of research at Glass Lewis, an adviser to large shareholders. “This administration and this agency are very pro-business and anti-investor.”
Yes, because the currently declining number of lawsuits indicates….what? That the regulatory environment might actually be working as a deterrent to fraudulent activity by the very executives who were bilking investors in the past without such stepped-up measures. You know, that this type of regulatory environment has actually been successful at putting a stop to inappropriate, criminal and fraudulent behavior by executives who might otherwise let their personal greed get the best of them.
Never let it be said that the Bush Administration could leave well enough alone. If something is actually working as it is supposed to work, it's clear that it has to be tweaked into failure. Heckuva job.



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Ftiz!
(On edit: Drat…My first zero, and it’s a typo! And I even read the story before I posted.)
This guy reveals the entire truth about the banksters at the highest levels:
http://tinyurl.com/29gyyb
http://tinyurl.com/392w7j
[Mod Note; Dial-up warning. Links go to lengthy video]
Bush is continuing his campaign to remove all our protections and all our money in the time left to him.
But, hey….he’s just trying to *pertect* us, right? If we had two nickles left in our pocket they might rub together, make a spark, and set our clothes on fire.
never a thought about the people of the country, it is always about shareholders.
MarkusQ – ROLF (rolling on laughing floor).
Bush supporters want to squeeze the last drops of juice out of the Bush Orange…It’s just not right that people with money should get sued- and ONLY people with money get sued- “Make it go away- we bought ya- now we want ta see you roll over and beg”.
Such is politics.
The “appearance” of “Free Markets” is all that remains.
The Banksters have invented a tower of derivatives where risk for all is magically mitigated all the way into outer space.
Those who control the manufacture of fiat currency (a 24/7 operation forever – with no controls, and no reporting) have virtually hijacked the entire world – The CENTRAL BANKSTERS at the NY FED.
The Council on Foreign Relations is the Bankster’s political and military wing.
Every market is totally manipulated every minute of every day, in every way.
There is no “market.”
For those coming in now — court starts a bit later this morning (11-ish ET). As far as we know, it will be held, although weather in DC is a bit nasty today. Will let everyone know if that changes and, if court resumes as scheduled, we’ll have liveblogging of motions and other matters as well as any testimony as it goes today. Thanks!
“never a thought about the people of the country, it is always about shareholders. “
This whole issue is about shareholders and their rights to sue the corporations they buy stock in for lyin, cheatin, and stealin from em.
Hmmmm…..is this the calm before the storm?
God bless it, what’s wrong with the world?
Washington shuts down for a freakin’ inch of snow; Obama backpedals, like a punk, for speaking the truth; and the House continues a moot debate concerning a toothless bill…the Senate not having even that much gumption.
Are there absolutely no testicles in that entire District of Columbia? I witnessed more guts and determination emanating from the women of FDL in coverage of the Libby trial than I think that town has seen in a decade. Viva la Femme!
Plunge Protection Team (PPT). Go to this link
http://www.zmag.org/content/sh…..temID=8973
and read the summary, then go to the PDF file prepared by Sprott Asset Management and read all about it.
Just as there is no Osama Bin Laden, there is no Stock Market. The appearance of a “market” exists through the disinfotainment entities such as Bloomberg and CNBS, all designed to enable the moneychangers to fleece their purported investors for all of the commission money they can put their hands on while supporting the illusion of market dynamics at play.
Markets operate on supply and demand. In the aftermath of the tech bubble and the attacks of 9/11, the market was managed downward to a preselected level agreed upon by all of the major participants. What prevented a total market crash? The PPT. Whose money did they use to fund the other side of the trade for every panicked investor who wanted to get out of their stocks? Yours.
Actually, they created that money from thin air, using the tools at their disposal, which include a printing press, black box computer programs, offshore accounts managed by the Fed itself, the total control of the United States Treasury, and an authorization from Congress allowing them to do so in the interest of “National Security.”
typo — no apostrophe in it’s efforts. Sh be “its efforts” so it looks pretty for HuffPo or wherever this is linked. ’cause our ladies are rock stars these days, and justifiably so.
feel free to delete this after correcting.
I finally watched Enron: the Smartest Guys in the Room on HBO last night.
It should be required viewing/reading for any legislator or regulator even THINKING of regressing on any regulatory reforms.
By taking advantage of regulatory loopholes, Enron actually CUT POWER to people in order to drive up the price. People suffered behind that shit–not just the poor sumbitches who had their whole 401(k) plans taken over by the company, but old people who relied on electricity in stifling heat.
I was working with a state university in the midwest on its upcoming fundraising campaign and attended a Board meeting to present our recommendations. I follwed the audit report delivered by an executive from Arthur Andersen on the Board. Their endowment fnds had been compromised because Enron’s accounting firm had recommended that the university put its protfolio heavily in Enron.
So, at the end of the day, the lack of gevernment regulation may well have cost some poor kids financial aid needed to go to college in the midwest.
Enron hurt so many people so many ways. It would be insanity to allow that behavior to be repeated.
Thanks for the post, Christy.
My apologies to Imus…
It was his guest that made the Wilson remark…
Jack
I noticed this post resting comfortably next to the ad for Elizabeth de la Vega’s US v Bush book which utilized the world of fraud so well in drawing the case for impeachment against Bush et al.
And in a sickening way, this post reminds me of Bush’s methodology of changing the definition of a word just as the Sheriffs come knocking at the door.
The plan is to cut all government services to the bone. Social security? Turn the $$$ over to the honest money men on Wall Street. SEC enforcement? The market can take care of itself (like it did in Harken, eh George?) Carpooling? Nah, turn the entire road system over to private companies. When the poor people can’t afford the tolls the rich will have less traffic to deal with. Natural disasters? FEMA did a heck of a job in NOLA. Medical care? The insurance and healthcare industries are making a bundle so what’s the problem?
Of course, when giant corporations default on their pension obligations then it’s OK to ask the taxpayers to bail them out. Just not the top 1% of the taxpayers.
When all is said and done the country will still be running huge deficits to finance the war machine that keeps our oil flowing out from under those pesky foreigners. And law enforcement to protect the children (i.e. totalitarian state apparatus).
The damage BushCo has done cannot be undone in a decade.
I wonder how many decades it will take to clear out all the crsp that Shrub and Darth have inflicted on us, in laws, regulations, rules, and orders. (I start dreaming about a law – maybe even an amendment – saying something like ‘invalid until reviewed for partisan bias and stupidity’.)
“American Capitalism” by John Kenneth Galbraith is still a great book for those interested in challenging conservative’s assumptions about the magic hands of the market. The book was written in the sixties I believe- but it shows that in fact our economic system is a long ways from the perfect model discussed by Adam Smith for corn. Competition is imperfect for many ways- and the interests of a whole new stakeholder group- “management”- is not accounted for in the models. Galbraith argued that those who manage corporations had come to have more power than those who invested in them- and that management’s interests were not the same as the investors.
One only has to read any newspaper about an executive leaving the corporation after losing billions with a multi-million dollar golden parachute to see how correct Galbraith was.
froggermarch @ 12
What did Ken Lay know and when did he know it?
When Lay was on the stand and under oath, wouldn’t it have been great fun to ask him all about his meetings with George Bush Sr. and Dick Cheney prior to 9/11?
Wouldn’t it be great to ask him if the faux California Energy Crisis which his company manufactured just prior to the 2000 elections was actually a scheme cooked up by he and Poppie Bush to compel Americans to install some oil experts in the White House? But what was to be Lay’s reward? After all, he was GW’s largest contributor and best friend of Poppie Bush. Poppie never planned on Enron going bust, and that’s when things started to fall apart.
Wouldn’t if be nice to learn the details of how Lay and Cheney were divvying up the oil fields in Iraq on a big map, even before 9/11?
Wouldn’t it be enlightening to hear that Lay knew for a fact that 9/11 was going to happen as the pretext for the war plan which he clearly had knowledge of prior to 9/11?
Why would you sit around countless energy planning meetings dividing up the oil fields of Iraq in advance of 9/11 unless there were a plan in place to make it possible?
Such a plan would by necessity be a war plan, and this war plan was actually in place prior to 9/11.
Surely any good war plan requires at its core a starting point, a trigger if you will that provides a good “cover story” to implement it. Clearly you can’t just go around invading countries without a good reason…you need to be attacked first, then retaliate.
Was 9/11 simply part of the war plan?
Why wouldn’t it have been?
You can’t hit the “GO” button without a pretext.
9/11 was the pretext for the invasion of the Middle East – all by design.
CAN YOU SAY COVERUP?
Anyone see what just happened to some guys for fraud? In the last five days they were shot execution style by their own partner for 200,000 in fraud, then he did himself in. Think it was in Pennsylvania, he called them to an emergency meeting and proceeded to execute them. One survived.
Bush’s world, no courts, just bullets.
NPR is announcing Bush will hold a presser momentarily on North Korea and other stuff.
Shorter Cheneycorp: All your money are belong to us.
Chimpspeak – Bush press conference now on NPR.
oldtree @
3
I think you’re missing the point here. This law would protect the big law and accounting firms and corporate management. Shareholders are just sheep, too. They are being fleeced and their investments are being driven into the ground by management. The average ’shareholder’ is about as powerful as the average voter. ‘Management’ — that’s the CEO’s and their teams of accountants, lawyers and bankers — run corporations. All they have to do is pack the board, which is easy enough to do, just nominate and elect. Most shareholders don’t attend annual meetings, they just sign their proxies. Large blocks of shares are held by pension funds and other financial mgmt outfits — how do you think those shares are voted?
In fact, hijacking corporations from shareholders is an old art and is probably the model for what we see in government, the admin running the country despite the voters. To check my accuracy here, see who is really getting the lion’s share of record corporate profits. Shareholders just get enough to keep them quiet.
BUsh presser underway. He’s making a speech where he talks about how the terrarists are comin’ to get us. He doesn’t sound too pissy and annoyed yet – trying to sound concerned and somewhat determined.
You can sense that he’s gonna get snorty & spitty and cranky and defensive as soon as the questions come.
Bush presser also on CSPAN 2. Now babbling on about Iraq and his plan. Same ole, same ole.
foggycity @ 21
Gee my board of directors meeting seems so tame in comparison.
Even more petulant than usual…
Bush’s vocal inflection is getting stronger. His pitch is raising, he’s getting louder, he’s doing more hand gestures. Getting more defensive by the moment. I expect to see steam coming out of his ears within the next four minutes.
LandOfTheFree @ 29
If this is the meltdown it’s not a moment too soon. A girl can dream…
TEHRAN, Iran – A car loaded with explosives blew up near a bus carrying members of
Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards in southeastern Iran on Wednesday, killing 11 of them and wounding 31. An al-Qaida-linked Sunni militant group reportedly claimed responsibility.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200….._explosion
Whoa!
thanks for the play by play
I CANNOT listen to him.
Or many folks anymore…..
Bush has the stammers worse than usual. Obviously he is having the presser to dilute the effect of having the US congress vote against his new “plan” for Iraq. It’s all so Vietnamese.
Questions are just starting. “Has Putin changed, or are US-Russian relations deteriorating?”
Bush is tapdancing a little – Putin’s the same guy, but “Democracies are a good thing to have” re: NATO.
Thanks for this post Christy.
On a related note, a story on Private Equity traders, aired on Lehrer last week, & scared the bejeebers out of me. Makes “normal” Wallstreet hijinks sound like tiddlywinks in comparison.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb…..02-08.html
If I caught the gist of the story correctly, loose groups of uber-rich investors are joining forces & pooling their immense resources so-as to buy out formerly publically-traded companies. Then they break ‘em up for all the wealth they can wring out of the pieces-parts, & simply dump the trashed remains (as well as whatever employees or investors may have been attached there-to).
Apparently a goodly number of the companies targetted by these modern-day pirates have been popular investments for various public-employee retirement funds (e.g., teachers & other public employees). The blow Enron’s collapse dealt to these retirement group funds was huge. And apparently, here comes another awful attack on people’s savings.
Am I on target if I blame repubs/Bush administration for continually loosening controls on investment schemes & scams???
I hope someone with a whole lot more knowledge than I have in re financial matters will look into this. From this house, it sounds evil and horribly dangerous to the savings of thousands of innocent folks.
Ooh, nice question on “how can you be sure that Iran is providing the weapons in Iraq?”
Bush says “we know that.”
“What we don’t know is whether the head leaders of Iran ordered the strikes. My point is that it doesn’t matter if they knew or didn’t know. Did they know, or didn’t they know? What matters is that we’re going to protect our people in Iraq…”
So, does this mean he doesn’t give a shit whether or not Iran’s leaders ordered strikes or not, he’s going to call them as bad guys and go after them? He didn’t make that clear.
And on toppic but from the other direction, Pelosi and Murtha and ’several well-funded anti-war groups’ have decied on a ’slow bleed’ approach to ending the war.
WTF!!!!!!!
Bush tryin ta get the Iranian people to overthrow it’s government–he’s a sleepy eyed dreamer.
Bush does not talk about any actual positive developments. It’s all plans and things that will happen. He trots out his favorite strawman that terrible things will happen if people don’t do exactly what he says. Another strawman is the appeal to “support the troops”. Leaving them in Iraq to be killed and wounded needlessly is supporting them how? Resolutions prejudge the outcome of his plan. Again overlooks his track record of 4 years of failure. Calls the supplemental request for Iraq emergency legislation.
Bush describing himself in the third person- he’s havin an out of body experience.
They already have democrary in Iran. Why do we need to “bring” it to them?
Raw Story developing headline:
FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL OFFICIAL SAYS POWELL HAD IRAN DEAL IN 2003 AND WAS REBUFFED BY WHITE HOUSE… DEVELOPING…
Adie @ 35
I have seen this sort of thing happening since I started working (late ’60’s) and it wasn’t new then. Rayne was describing the procedure the other day, part of the build-up is to extend the credit to max. It’s sort of like putting a lemon in the microwave for a 30 sec before you squeeze it, more juice that way. I believe that Big $ is just extending their game, this time they’re doing it with a whole country. When the US is an empty husk they’ll just move on to Paraguay. We’ll stay here and life will be nasty, brutish and short.
They are a parasite that kills the host.
rwcole: yes, Bush talking in third person – he and Bob Dole should have lunch together.
Iran: States inferences as facts. We know that the Quds force has supplied IEDs. We know they are run by the Iranian government. We know this, except even the gung-ho Sunday intelligence assessment didn’t go this far. IOW, he’s making it up.
HotFlash @ 38
“Murtha, the powerful chairman of the defense subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee, will seek to attach a provision to an upcoming $93 billion supplemental spending bill for Iraq and Afghanistan. It would restrict the deployment of troops to Iraq unless they meet certain levels adequate manpower, equipment and training to succeed in combat. That’s a standard Murtha believes few of the units Bush intends to use for the surge would be able to meet.”
Two words:
Signing statement.
Chimpy is using the Chewbacca defense…
Actually we know that Ahamdinejad didn’t order al Quds do this. It answers to the Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.
Someone else following up on Iran: asking Bush to confirm he’s saying that Iran’s government is not directly behind the shipping of weapons into iraq. Noted that this is in contradiction to government reports last week.
This guy is really pressing it.
(paraphrased below):
“How do we know that the intelligence is accurate this time?”
“Ed, we know that there are dangerous weapons in Iraq, we don’t know if Ahmenijhad (sp?) ordered them in, but we have to protect our people.” “There is no contradiction.”
twolf1 @ 47
And we will then let the wookie win?
Bush adds he is “confident” a group in the Iranian government is providing weapons to Iraq, but he’s not confident if the Pres. of Iraq ordered it.
“Victory in Iraq will not look like victory in WWII.”
In fact, it will probably look more like defeat.
Bush really pissed off that anyone dared to ask him about the statement made by US officials that the highest officials in Iran ordered the movement of weapons to Iraq..He cuts the guy off and acts like a total asshole.
HotFlash @ 38
Only the scummy author uses the ’slow bleed’ slur. Quoted is “slow-walking” the lege for funding.
Victory in Iraq will look about like the situation in Iraq looks right now.
P J Evans @
18
Sounds like anarchy to me, but given what has come down in the last 5 years, it sounds a bit less damaging than the status quo.
Martha Radtz (sp?) is asking over & over again whether or not Iraq is a civil war. He will not answer it. “It is a dangerous situation, thereby requiring action on my part.”
LandOfTheFree @ 49
Yeah, and finifinitoobz was sayin’ they got dangerous weapons in Indianapolis, too. Gee! You suppose that Chimpy ordered ‘em in? Or were they take-out?
The one reporter was saying things backward. The intelligence officials were inferring an al Quds and Iranian government involvement. Bush was stating it as fact. The reporter made it sound like it was the opposite. Actually both are playing loose with their logic. Inference is fact. Fact is inference. What’s the difference?
Question about troop morale: more and more troops are questioning what we’re doing there. Does this surprise you, is it a minority opinion or a majority opinion there?
Answer: what i hear is most troops are willing to go back into combat multiple times. What the concern is on the homefront. That’s why I go out of my way to constantly thank the families. He says he “hasn’t heard deep concern about the morale of the troops in Iraq”. “Listen – I want to get the troops out of there as soon as possible. But I want to get the job done.”
(Needed followup question: Precisely WHAT is the job, Mr. President? Have you defined what the mission is besides this vague “secure Iraq” phrase?)
Why doesn’t a journalist ask about the status of the recent shell casings declared to be from Iran and then declared bogus?
If I got to ask a question, it would be: President Bush, given your track record on threats to us in the Middle East, why should anyone believe anything you say now?
LandOfTheFree @ 60
That would trip him up big time.
What job needs to get completed in Eyerak, Mr. pResident?
These Bush press conferences are worst than burlesque. He never says anything new. He doesn’t answer questions. What’s the point? If the White House press corps have any cojones, they should just boycott the pressers.
Christy:
That’s why those that hate government should not be allowed to govern. They may participate in government, but they should not be allowed to govern.
Biodun @ 64
They are an insult to the Merkun people and to the Constitution. What free press?
You vote for Petraeus but then don’t vote for
myhis strategy. It’s called a political process, Mr. President.One of the first statements that Bushie made was that the troops that the Iraqis were supposed to have there have fallen short as of today. WTF?
Bush knows that if he steals a few column inches with his presser- there will be fewer inches available to cover the gooper mutiny in the house.
Blah – I just typed out Bush’s response on the question about morale of the troops, and I accidentally typed over it.
Basically, a reporter asked about the morale of the troops, who are going back for multiple missions, and how the reporter has heard more questioning their purpose/mission/reason for being there. He asked if Bush has heard that soldiers are questioning the mission, if troop morale is dropping.
The answer Bush gave was that (paraphrased) “our troops are willing to go back for multiple missions, the problem is on the homefront. That’s why I go out of my way to talk to the families. I haven’t heard that there are any troop morale problems. I talk to the generals on the ground. The families have concerns, but there is no problem with troop morale.”
Live in your bubble, dude. Yeah, you really go out of your way to talk to families, dontcha. Dweeb.
“I can say my decision surprised a lot of people in the Middle East.”
It surprised and disturbed most Americans too.
oops – ignore my 66. apparently, what I typed was posted, but I got a new box with one letter in it. I thought I’d typed over it.
While I was checking the ice situation on local news this morning, I happened to catch a bit of Snowjob’s press conference from yesterday. When pressed on Pace’s statement that he knew nothing about the briefing on Iran that was done in Baghdad, Snow said that it was important to get the information out quickly to counter false information. Doesn’t that sound familiar?
I’d love to see that statement put up alongside the similar ones from the trial witnesses about Joe Wilson’s op-ed.
Re Libby
Not going to talk about it. Can’t hear you.
You are so wrong. These lawsuits benefit the ambulance-chasing lawyers, not the shareholders. Have you ever been a member of the so-called class in one of these? I have. Basically, the lawyers take tens of millions of dollars and you end up with the equivalent of a coupon for a happy meal.
Meanwhile, thanks to the lawsuit, the value of your shares has plummeted. If this is your idea of investor protection, you are crazy. And I can assure you, a lot of these suits ARE frivolous. In some cases they are even fraudulent. Google for the case against Eckhardt Drug and you will see how low these people can go.
LandOfTheFree @ 69
Dub doesn’t talk to any family that hasn’t been prescreened nine ways to Sunday. If they aren’t cheerleading koolaid drinkers he ain’t talking to them – period.
Cozumel @ 32
We need to get our troops the hell out of there and let them have at it. Residents of the Middle East have been fighting with each other for thousands of years – it’s appalling that the neocons have put our men & women smack dab in the middle of it.
What will the average Joe on the street think?
From the Raw Story:
‘Like Martha Stewart’: Congress investigating student loan corps’ sale of stock before Bush budget
Michael Roston
Published: Tuesday February 13, 2007
He’s doing his “I don’t like that question” grunt again.
I’m not going to talk about it.
That is what George Bush just said in response to 3 questions, including whether the President authorized outing Valerie Plame, something else, and whether he might issue pardons.
The questioner at the press conference prefaced his questions by saying that he was not asking about the Libby trial. Despite that, Bush would not answer any questions, and would not give any reasons for not doing so.
We should be outraged at this imperiousness.
(Sigh)
Hugh @
75
The question was carefully phrased to avoid the trial, centering on other administration figures. Bush should catch some flak over this.
Bush says we need to see progress, and progress = “peace in certain mixed neighborhoods in Iraq.”
Wow. That’s our mission?
You know one of the best things Jim Comey ever did (besides giving the Plame case to Fitzgerald) was his chairmanship of the Enron Task Force at DOJ. SO many great initiatives came out of that program and whatever stability we have in a post Enron marketplace is due to the investor confidence that came from the work of the Task Force.
You know, I know Comey’s a republican, but the next president could do a lot worse for an Attorney General
Shorter Bush: As long as you fund my Iraq plan and let me do it, then you can disagree.
LandOfTheFree @ 70
He could meet a lot of military families at family functions, such as funerals.
“I’m not going to talk about it.”
I’ll bet he gives pickles the same line. Probably not to Condi cause she smack him.
Doing a commercial for the new Fred Harris/Vandehei Politico. Must take care of the sycophants, you know.
Gabe at 75 — And for shareholders who have been defrauded? Your answer would then be “suck it up and take your losses?” There are always abuses on both sides — the remedy for that is built into dismissal motions and other legal actions that can be taken by defense counsel — and in actions against attorneys who bring fraudulent suits. The justice system is not perfect, but a whole lot of crap gets weeded out — although you are correct that when it doesn’t it is a painful thing. But one bad case here and there has to be weighed against all of the good cases against people like the folks at Enron or at the myriad of other companies whose management tried to defraud shareholders. One personal experience is not the whole of the experiences of others, and you do well to remember that.
Watching these smarmy flaks giggle like cheap whores –
This relationship is far too close – press & president – for the end of the fourth year of the most miserable and disgusting FAILURE in the history of our country and its armed forces. I want to puke.
Bush: We need a balanced budget without raising taxes. Wants to work with the Democrat Party.
Dang, I’m talking with one of my friends who has been a staunch Conservative Republican for years. He’s as irate about Bush as I am. He’s terrified that Bush is going to go into Iran, and he believes most Americans are not buying the bullshit like he (and many other Americans) did before invading Iraq. 2008 can’t come fast enough for my friend, either.
ccmask @ 87
Nah, she just dresses tough; remember, she didn’t say anything about the 16 words because she doesn’t like confrontation.
Ethanol still adds to the carbon load and promotes global warming.
From the NYTimes today:
Enuf said.
Bush tryin to chuckle head the press into changing the tone- he seems to have pulled it off. He also handled the refusal to answer in a way that went over OK- he’s a slippery son of a bitch- mistake to underestimate him.
Hugh @
91
Dems in congress need to start calling the GOP the Republican’t party.
OleHippieChick @ 54
OK, that would be Fred Harris/Vandehei Politico. Gotcha.
Biodun at 90: holy crap. I guess that’s one way to recruit more “bad apples” as scapegoats for organized torture policy, huh?
Press is letting Bush get away with abusing them- they love to have him snap towels across their asses…they really do- and that’s the threat of this guy.
LandOfTheFree @ 92
Get his congressperson’s and senators’ phone numbers and hand them to him! They need to know they’ve lost the Republicans, too, and that if they don’t stop them from attacking Iran, Republican reps will be saddled with responsibility for that, too.
Ed*ard Teller @ 91
or the Repub party. With all that drinking & cavorting with hookers (lookin your way, Mr. Cunningham)…
Why can’t we talk with Iran? Aah, aah, aah.
This steaming pile of crap was passed along to me by Make Them Accountable’s Carolyn Kay:
As Carolyn Kay noted in her e-mail: The AP uncritically quotes actor, AEI fellow, and all-round right-wing nutcase Fred Thompson on Patrick Fitzgerald’s handling of the Libby case. The article doesn’t mention the fact that Libby isn’t on trial for disclosing Valerie Plame’s identity as a covert agent. He’s on trial for LYING about his role in that disclosure. And it’s pretty clear from the evidence so far that Libby did lie to the grand jury. How many of the people who say this is a nothing case were happy to see Martha Stewart go to prison for lying, not even to a grand jury, but to federal officials?
The only thing I have to add is that this sounds an awful lot like the chief plank in Team Libby’s legal strategy: The “confuse the jury with irrelevant bullshit” tactic. And while jurors are instructed to avoid news coverage of the case, Thompson knows full well that they probably won’t.
He just did it again. Democrat Party, followed it with “the Republic..er..Republican Party”. (caught himself)
Says one more question and then I gotta go have lunch. With Gates.
(Maybe they’re having pig)
Paging Rep Weiner!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsqprEihjXg
Redshift @ 94
Workin on it as we speak. It’s a process to figure out how far someone who was so pro-Republican is willing to go to defend their country. A lot of people who were GOP cheerleaders & Bush supporters a few years ago are ashamed/embarassed to admit they were wrong, and may not be as likely to speak out publically. I’m encouraged to hear more and more people like this that are ready to speak out strongly against where Bush and the Republicans have led our country.
Phoenix Woman @
104
This multi-time ex-jury member strongly disagrees. Besides, I’m sure the jurors are being monitored 24×7 by the NSA, Fitz and team Libby, like in some Grisham scenario. And they probably realize this.
Is Extended Stay Xray actually a boot camp for recruiting and training pruposes?
bellesouth @ 69
It may be a response to the Iraqi government having failed the first “benchmark” since the SOTU — they were supposed to have troops in Baghdad to support the “surge,” but they’re way under strength. There have been no consequences of this failed benchmark, of course, just like all the previous ones.
Money trumps peace.
-George W. Bush
Ed*ard Teller @ 106
That’s good to hear (well, except for the surveillance). Even though I would love for the jurors to visit FDL, I recognize that this would not be a good thing at all.
new thread upstairs, tedious legal arguments is the title
I didn’t want to go off topic up there so I’m gonna post this down heir
fieths op ed, over 17 pages of response so far and man, I am having a ball reading them
forgive the lenght, but this is just the first page;
Defintiely on topic:
From Atrios, talking about CNN’s Barbara Starr parroting BushCo’s talking points:
Redshift @ 109
Exactly. And no one asked him about this. First benchmark has not been met.
It seems to me the entire PR policy of the government is akin to “confuse the jury.”
Perris—forgiven…but how about a little shorter comment and a link next time, please?
Bush: The Democrats are attacking the McCain Escalation Plan that they haven’t even allowed to be implemented.
Bush: I won’t negotiate with the Iranians because it won’t yield any results.
-GSD
New thread from Marcy
perris @ 111
My favorite:
:-)
POTUS press conference couldn’t have gone too well for the Bush/Cheney/Rove team. Fox News is already covering a high-speed chase in Miami. lol
bellesouth @ 112
Well c’mon! If we actually kept score, we’d like, know how we were doing. It’s Calvinball!
HotFlash at 44 “I have seen this sort of thing happening since I started working (late ’60’s) and it wasn’t new then. Rayne was describing the procedure the other day, part of the build-up is to extend the credit to max. It’s sort of like putting a lemon in the microwave for a 30 sec before you squeeze it, more juice that way. I believe that Big $ is just extending their game, this time they’re doing it with a whole country. When the US is an empty husk they’ll just move on to Paraguay. We’ll stay here and life will be nasty, brutish and short.
They are a parasite that kills the host.”
[end quote]
Then we are the antibodies.
The performance by Bush at todays presser reminds us again what overreaching power is conferred on the POTUS. He can lie over and over again, he can mismanage a war, he can start a new war with Iran by pretending to protect our troops in Iraq. The Congress is too much awed by presidential power so it is letting the Commander in Chief command in mischief. It is high time for the House to do the right thing and impeach this man who does not do the peoples business.
Try Feith for treason? Yes, along with all these pond scum who lied us into the debacle in Iraq. Georgetown ought to be ashamed of itself for giving this neoconman a job.
By ifthethunderdontgetya | Feb 14, 2007 7:45:23 AM | Request Removal
That was my own little contribution to the Feith Fest this morning.
What is sad is Fred Hiatt and the WaPo keep giving more column space to the people who were dead wrong about Iraq than to those who were right.
HotFlash at 44
Thanks for the background, I think.
Very discouraging.
We’re not stupid people.
We’re neither lazy nor frivolous.
We work hard to be honest and fair to others.
We try to pull our own weight, and to save for the future.
We are terribly terribly discouraged by today’s financial system.
It seems so utterly corrupt and unfair.
I don’t like Lou Dobbs & his egotistical, tub-thumping crusades, but I do believe it when he says the middle class is under attack.
What can we do to protect ourselves and our families from today’s empire-builders who don’t give a %*@## for anyone or anything beyond their own personal collections of “brightshinythings”?!
Of course all the above is trumped by the maniacal war-mongers, neglect of the poor and needy, attacks upon our environment through greed and ignorance.
Oh doom & gloom.
Don’t mind me. I’m just having another of my “moments”.
Thanks for being there, pups.
A population of folks who DO care about others.
You give me hope. At least the world will know we’ve been here, fighting the good fight, eh? ;-
MarkusQ @ 1
MarkusQ, I just seriously needed the good laugh you gave me!