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		<title>By: Buddhist Jihad</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/13/libby-live-john-hannah-two/#comment-504888</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddhist Jihad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, it’s Super-Scooter Libby, Defenderer of the Entire Universe, so busy that he can’t tell up from down!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Works almost as well as the Twinkie-Sneeze Defense.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh and why is Fred Thompson defending Libby against leaking Plame’s identity when that’s not what he’s on trial for?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it’s Super-Scooter Libby, Defenderer of the Entire Universe, so busy that he can’t tell up from down!</p>
<p>Works almost as well as the Twinkie-Sneeze Defense.</p>
<p>Oh and why is Fred Thompson defending Libby against leaking Plame’s identity when that’s not what he’s on trial for?</p>
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		<title>By: Fairfax</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/13/libby-live-john-hannah-two/#comment-504112</link>
		<dc:creator>Fairfax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So, what does the President do all day?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what does the President do all day?</p>
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		<title>By: itsme</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/13/libby-live-john-hannah-two/#comment-504097</link>
		<dc:creator>itsme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-503376&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;GSD @&lt;br /&gt;
                100              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-503362&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;semiot @ 88&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The defense in a nutshell:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“TYOI He was quite good at remembering ideas and concepts, very bad at figuring out where they came from, how they came to him.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Idiot Savant Defense.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The highest paid mental defective ever on the Whitehouse payroll.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-GSD&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My God, these people live in a world of lies, wrapped in prevarications and rolled up in mendacity.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;a taco of tall tales?a bullshit burrito?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-503376"><em>GSD @<br />
                100              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-503362"><em>semiot @ 88</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The defense in a nutshell:</p>
<p>“TYOI He was quite good at remembering ideas and concepts, very bad at figuring out where they came from, how they came to him.”</p>
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<p>The Idiot Savant Defense.</p>
<p>The highest paid mental defective ever on the Whitehouse payroll.</p>
<p>-GSD</p>
<p>My God, these people live in a world of lies, wrapped in prevarications and rolled up in mendacity.</p>
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<p>a taco of tall tales?a bullshit burrito?</p>
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		<title>By: rxbus</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/13/libby-live-john-hannah-two/#comment-504094</link>
		<dc:creator>rxbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-503381&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Chetnolian @&lt;br /&gt;
                104              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Someone help me as a poor foreigner on AQ anthrax etc. Did Homeland Sercurity report to VP? If not why this task?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  I was thinking along the same lines…how come the OVP was doing eveything…figuring out interim govt structure, homeland security, everything it seems.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-503381"><em>Chetnolian @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Someone help me as a poor foreigner on AQ anthrax etc. Did Homeland Sercurity report to VP? If not why this task?</p>
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<p>  I was thinking along the same lines…how come the OVP was doing eveything…figuring out interim govt structure, homeland security, everything it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/13/libby-live-john-hannah-two/#comment-503947</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-503415&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Muzzy @&lt;br /&gt;
                136              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“Walton When Libby had memory lapses, what was done to trigger recall of things discussed&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;TYOI He was quite good at remembering ideas and concepts, very bad at figuring out where they came from, how they came to him.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;puleeze!  barf.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then this man should never have been given a Security Clearance. Knowing something came from the CIA and was tagged with a Top Secret status, or that the information derived from a Classified source and repeating it could reveal that source would be impossible for him to maintain.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He would mix Top Secret and mundane matters and simply say…oh I forgot who told me!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In addition, how could this guy ever sort out what was REAL, based upon the source…from what journalists TOLD HIM, or some comments he heard on FOX from O’Reilly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;IDEAS and CONCEPTS are not FACTS. But this suggests that in this administration the facts weren’t at all important, the reliability of sources were not important, where “stuff” (since info without ceracity is simply “stuff”) that was useful to policy was integrated because they fit the IDEA that Libby and Cheney formulated.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-503415"><em>Muzzy @<br />
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<blockquote><p>“Walton When Libby had memory lapses, what was done to trigger recall of things discussed</p>
<p>TYOI He was quite good at remembering ideas and concepts, very bad at figuring out where they came from, how they came to him.”</p>
<p>puleeze!  barf.</p>
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<p>Then this man should never have been given a Security Clearance. Knowing something came from the CIA and was tagged with a Top Secret status, or that the information derived from a Classified source and repeating it could reveal that source would be impossible for him to maintain.</p>
<p>He would mix Top Secret and mundane matters and simply say…oh I forgot who told me!</p>
<p>In addition, how could this guy ever sort out what was REAL, based upon the source…from what journalists TOLD HIM, or some comments he heard on FOX from O’Reilly.</p>
<p>IDEAS and CONCEPTS are not FACTS. But this suggests that in this administration the facts weren’t at all important, the reliability of sources were not important, where “stuff” (since info without ceracity is simply “stuff”) that was useful to policy was integrated because they fit the IDEA that Libby and Cheney formulated.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/13/libby-live-john-hannah-two/#comment-503934</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-503389&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pectopah @&lt;br /&gt;
                111              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-503365&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;kc @ 90 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In case y’all haven’t seen this, “Law and Order” hambone Fred Thompson bashes Fitz:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2869909&amp;page=1&quot;&gt;http://abcnews.go.com/Politics.....amp;page=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;His arguement is that since no law was broken per IIPA, that no investigation was necessary, hence lying to FBI was ok.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gee, Clinton broke no laws either, yet he was charged with perjury over a personal matter. Reconcil that first Mr. Thompson, then get back to me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why doesn’t Fred Thompson show us the CIA statement about precisely what Plame did in the CIA.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After all, if it was NON-CLASSIFIED then why can’t he give us the report from the CIA’s Office of Public Information.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why did the CIA have to DECLASSIFY the mere fact that she WIORKED at the CIA…even after it was publically dissiminayted?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why did the CIA send a request to the DOJ for an investigation of a leak that related to a IAPA violation???&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-503389"><em>Pectopah @<br />
                111              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-503365"><em>kc @ 90 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>In case y’all haven’t seen this, “Law and Order” hambone Fred Thompson bashes Fitz:  <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2869909&amp;page=1">http://abcnews.go.com/Politics&#8230;..amp;page=1</a></p>
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<p>His arguement is that since no law was broken per IIPA, that no investigation was necessary, hence lying to FBI was ok.  </p>
<p>Gee, Clinton broke no laws either, yet he was charged with perjury over a personal matter. Reconcil that first Mr. Thompson, then get back to me.</p>
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<p>Why doesn’t Fred Thompson show us the CIA statement about precisely what Plame did in the CIA.</p>
<p>After all, if it was NON-CLASSIFIED then why can’t he give us the report from the CIA’s Office of Public Information.</p>
<p>Why did the CIA have to DECLASSIFY the mere fact that she WIORKED at the CIA…even after it was publically dissiminayted?</p>
<p>Why did the CIA send a request to the DOJ for an investigation of a leak that related to a IAPA violation???</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/13/libby-live-john-hannah-two/#comment-503925</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-503382&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cranky Observer @&lt;br /&gt;
                105              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Remember, Fitz gets two shots in Closing Arg,&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; including the last word. He will Clorox away&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; the confusion.’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I may be over-interpreting, but it seems to me that whoever on the jury is asking the questions is neither confused nor impressed much by Wells’ defense so far.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cranky&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wish that juror had asked Hannah&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Do you recall Mr. Libby ever mistaking something that he learned from the Vice-President with something that was said to him by a reporter? What was that?”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-503382"><em>Cranky Observer @<br />
                105              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>&gt; Remember, Fitz gets two shots in Closing Arg,<br />
&gt; including the last word. He will Clorox away<br />
&gt; the confusion.’</p>
<p>I may be over-interpreting, but it seems to me that whoever on the jury is asking the questions is neither confused nor impressed much by Wells’ defense so far.</p>
<p>Cranky</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I wish that juror had asked Hannah</p>
<p>“Do you recall Mr. Libby ever mistaking something that he learned from the Vice-President with something that was said to him by a reporter? What was that?”</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/13/libby-live-john-hannah-two/#comment-503919</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-503381&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Chetnolian @&lt;br /&gt;
                104              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Someone help me as a poor foreigner on AQ anthrax etc. Did Homeland Sercurity report to VP? If not why this task?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually I think this referred not to a DOMESTIC THREAT but the assertion made by Feith that Al Qaida was learning/obtaining anthrax from Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Libby was Feith’s supervisor!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-503381"><em>Chetnolian @<br />
                104              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Someone help me as a poor foreigner on AQ anthrax etc. Did Homeland Sercurity report to VP? If not why this task?</p>
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<p>Actually I think this referred not to a DOMESTIC THREAT but the assertion made by Feith that Al Qaida was learning/obtaining anthrax from Iraq.</p>
<p>Libby was Feith’s supervisor!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: legaleze</title>
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		<dc:creator>legaleze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Prediction: Cheney, Rove and Libby won’t testify unless they and their attorneys believe that Libby’s defense is working, unless they think Libby has a chance at a defense verdict.  If they believe that Libby’s defense is falling flat, as it appears to be so far, they won’t testify.  So if those three don’t testify, Libby’s going down.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m aware of the counter argument that Wells could think the defense is so overwhelming that he needn’t guild the lilly with Cheney, Rove or his own client, but that appears to be so unlikely an scenario, that it really doesn’t deserve discussion.  Libby can’t testify because he will be destroyed on cross.  Rove and Cheney can’t testify because they are liars and will be revealed as such.  And since Cheney was reputed to have had that moment of “truth” with Libby, telling him that he, the VP, was Libby’s source for the identity of Wilson’s wife, Cheney’s absence from the courtroom will speak volumes to the hopelessness of the defense.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prediction: Cheney, Rove and Libby won’t testify unless they and their attorneys believe that Libby’s defense is working, unless they think Libby has a chance at a defense verdict.  If they believe that Libby’s defense is falling flat, as it appears to be so far, they won’t testify.  So if those three don’t testify, Libby’s going down.  </p>
<p>I’m aware of the counter argument that Wells could think the defense is so overwhelming that he needn’t guild the lilly with Cheney, Rove or his own client, but that appears to be so unlikely an scenario, that it really doesn’t deserve discussion.  Libby can’t testify because he will be destroyed on cross.  Rove and Cheney can’t testify because they are liars and will be revealed as such.  And since Cheney was reputed to have had that moment of “truth” with Libby, telling him that he, the VP, was Libby’s source for the identity of Wilson’s wife, Cheney’s absence from the courtroom will speak volumes to the hopelessness of the defense.</p>
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		<title>By: kingfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Seems like Libby was so used to lying as he went in a environment shielded by the likes of Ashcroft and other Cheney/Bush henchmen that it never occured to him that he would be held accountable or caught.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Given the amount of lies over time it must be difficult to remember them, hence the memory defense.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like Libby was so used to lying as he went in a environment shielded by the likes of Ashcroft and other Cheney/Bush henchmen that it never occured to him that he would be held accountable or caught.</p>
<p>Given the amount of lies over time it must be difficult to remember them, hence the memory defense.</p>
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