
Why anyone takes that steaming turd of a man Bill Donohue seriously is beyond me. But like all Right Wing extremists, it seems all he has to do to get on TV is show up at the studio and it's lights, camera, action, and the paleo-pundits of the traditional media just sit by and chuckle benignly while Donohue spews his hateful bilge about Jews, gays, women, movies he's never seen, music he's never heard, and the perils of liberal bloggers, who are one of the greatest threats to our society, yes! Right behind Lipton Onion Dip:
Prior to Bill Donohue leading his Republican smear campaign against John Edwards, the President of the Catholic League was most famous for accusing the Lipton corporation of perpetrating an anti-Catholic "atrocity" in the form of--an onion dip commercial.
For those who missed it, Lipton ran a print ad in the June 13, 2001 edition of The New York Press featuring a person holding a bowl of onion dip while waiting in line to take communion--the implication being that this person planned to dip the Eucharist in the onion dip.
Reasonable humor? Clever Madison Avenue marketing? Not according to Bill Donohue. In his eyes, the onion dip ad was an anti-Catholic "atrocity."
In a sternly worded press release, Donohue claimed that the ad offended "the [central Catholic] belief that the Eucharist is the body and blood of Jesus Christ," and then referred to Lipton's parent company Unilever as a "monster," adding that "For the elites at Unilever to allow their ad department at Lipton to insult Catholics like this is the height of corporate arrogance. And stupidity."
Donohue later claimed that the onion dip ad was one of the "Ten Worst Anti-Catholic Atrocities of 2001."
That's not a joke, gang. The only thing more dangerous to our society that the netroots is a mixture of sour cream and onion soup mix. Damn. Who knew?
Okay, actually, I sort of knew, because each time I eat onion dip, I feel a sudden urge to rush out and desecrate something Catholic, anything. The last time it happened, I had to settle for tearing up photos of Mel Gibson, but next time, if I'm anywhere near a Catholic church or cemetery, watch out!
When are the chucklefucks who book this bigoted blowhard on national television going to get a goddamn clue that he's an American mullah, what with his rank religious extremism and hatred of women? Fran Kissling of Catholics for a Free Choice has Donohue's number. She's been pushing back against his home-grown fatwahs for years:
There is something about this man and his attacks on women that is frightening. There was a while when I refused to go on air with him [for television appearances] because -- you know I am a very strong person -- but I felt physically threatened by this man. He never physically threatened me, but I felt like I was in the presence of an abuser. So for a long time I just refused because it was too degrading to be in his presence. I got over it eventually and have done a few things with him since. I understand that he is so offensive that he does himself damage; as long as I can maintain my equilibrium with him attacking me in the most vicious ways possible -- that only does me credit and makes him look like the abuser that he is. But the glee with which he went after Vanderslice and the glee with which he has gone after these women marks him as an abuser.
Today brings us the news that both bloggers hired by the Edwards campaign have resigned, not because of their consideration for the campaign, but out of concern for their personal safety since Donowhore called out his and Michelle MalKKKin's flying monkeys. Jesus' General points us to a collection of death threats (and worse) that Amanda Marcotte has been getting from some Good American Christians who love Our Lord enough to threaten rape and murder in His Holy Name.
To wit:
Problem with women like you, you just need a good fucking from a real man! Living in Texas myself, I know you haven't found that real Texan yet. But once your liberal pro feminist ass gets a real good fucking, you might see the light. Until then, enjoy your battery operated toys b/c most real men wouldn't want to give you the fucking you deserve b/c the shit that would come out of you ears.
And even more charmingly:
YOU RACIST WHORE. FAT UGLY BITCH. SUCK MY LONG COCK ASSHOLE I HOPE YOU KIDS NEVER LIVE AND YOUR PARENTS DIE A TRAGIC DEATH YOU ASSHOLE BITCH!
I HOPE YOUR WOMB IS BARREN AND YOUR CAREER PLUMMETS TO HELL YOU BITCH
It appears that punctuation and grammar are Not Family Values anymore. (If they ever were.)
So, the message here is apparently that being a net activist is fine as long as you don't mind getting your life (and the lives of those you love) threatened by a passel of Psychotic Christianist Jihadi. It's okay if you don't mind going into hiding like Salman Rushdie, but otherwise, know your place, you dirty liberal blogger. Conservatives are allowed to openly fantasize about killing people in this country (see Morgan, Melanie...), but GAWD FORBID some uppity woman blogger should make the case that militant 16th-century-style Crusader Catholicism might not be the best form of birth control and AIDS prevention on the planet. Clearly the only Christian thing to do is tell her you'll kill her if she doesn't shut up.
There may be some good news here, however, in the form of the IRS. Lindsay at Majikthise has the scoop:
I predict that the biggest loser in all this will be Bill Donohue's Catholic League. In the process of hounding a couple of bloggers, the so-called civil rights organization may have jeopardized its vital 501(c)(3) status. As a tax-exempt organization, the CL is forbidden by law from interfering with political campaigns.
Our taxes should not be subsidizing lobbying by religious extremists.
Jeffrey Feldman at Frameshop has more. I think this could be an absolutely marvellous opportunity to fight hysterical religious extremists over here so we don't have to fight them over there.
Oh, and pass the onion dip.
UPDATE: Stalwart Firedog Phoenix Woman has posted instructions for contacting the IRS about Donohue:
Here’s what you do:
Download Form 3949-A from www.IRS.gov. Fill out with the pertinent info on Donahue’s org under #2 (the “business name” side). (Put “N/A” in the individual-name fields under #1.) Here’s the info:
2. Business Name: Catholic League
2a-b. Address: 450 Seventh Avenue, 34th Floor, New York, NY 101232c. Emp. ID Num: 23-7279981
2d. Principal Bus. Act.: Non-Profit Political Advocacy
Skip to 4. Check off “Other”.
5a.(Describe violation)
“In his role as President of the Catholic League, a 501(c)(3) organization, William Donohue made national television appearances calling for the firing by the John Edwards for President campaign of two campaign employees. The Catholic League has issued press releases on Feb. 9 (http://tinyurl.com/2dx4h4) and Feb. 12 (http//tinyurl.com/ywrcr5) of 2007 specifically pressuring the Edwards campaign to fire these two employees, thus violating FS-2006-17, which instructs 501(c)(3) groups not to intervene in political campaigns. Donohue’s group has also done similar interventions against John Kerry’s political campaign in 2004; On Feb. 7, 2007, Donohue boasted to Tucker Carlson of MSNBC that he caused two Kerry campaign employees to be fired (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17049495/). Again, this violates FS-2006-17.”
5e — Provide cites.
Then finish w/your name/address/etc. at the bottom.
Kiss your tax-exempt status goodbye, Donohue!
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TRex!
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TREX!
This is precisely why I have always said….
Religion is not the solution, it is the problem.
Too bad Joke Line can’t read a selection of those death threats. Maybe then he’d get why “civil discourse” would be as effective with the wingnuts as stopping a rabid dog’s attack by attempting to pet it.
If your description of the Lipton ad is accurate, I don’t blame them. Mind you, I have no respect for Catholic dogma and think that Donohue is beneath contempt, but it’s playing with fire for Lipton to suggest “we’re going to dip the Wafer (the body of J-C)in our dip and make it EVEN BETTER.”
It’s all medieval nonsense and superstition, yes. But what does Lipton think the reaction will be? This is so weird, I can’t believe this account is accurate. (Much as I’m a fan of T. and the site.)
I’m not saying, “Don’t offend the believers.” I’m saying have some taste and tact.
And if the two women resigned from Edwards’ campaign, that’s a scandal, and the cretins who (”in the name of God”) are attacking them are the scum of the earth. Hypocrites.
SusanD @
6
Seriously. “Nice doggie, er, AAAAAAAARRRGH!!”
Bwaaaahhhh! I was signing off for the night when I noticed Trex had a post. I had to read it.
I’d never heard the “onion dip” complaint of Donahue. Wow, does he just run around all day looking for something to be “offended” by, and then grabs as many microphones as possible?
I must go to bed. I hope I don’t incorporate onion dip and Donahue in my dreams…. ewwwwwwwwwwwww.
G’nite!
Onion dip has a known liberal bias.
Simply mah-vah-lous, TRex. Pass the onion dip.
Uh, yes. That seems to be exactly what he does.
Anti Catholicism s the anti semitism of the Left .
Suzanne @ 11
You want regular chips or the ones with ridges?
John Rowland @ 13
Let’s get something straight here. I am NOT anti-Catholic. I’m anti-Donohue.
There is a HUGE difference.
LandOfTheFree @ 9
That pretty much sums up his kind of “victim,” yes.
Donahue should practice safe sects.
Never saw the ad, but how do we know it was a *Catholic* church? Episcopalians take communion too.
what is the proper reaction for a moderate christian to have when the eucharist is compared to a potato chip and the holy spirit to a load of hot sticky cum?
there are a lot of christians who support gay rights, gender equality, civil rights, birth control, plan B and other reproductive rights….even if a lot of church doctrine does not. lots of catholics and other christians…and jews and muslims and hindus etc…vote for democrats. mocking central tenets of christianity or other faiths certainly does not help. religion is not the problem…ignorance and stereotyping is.
TRex @ 15
Donahue does for Christ’s teachings what chlamydia does for pleasure.
John Rowland @ 13
Yeah, because there are no liberal Catholics, right?
Hope to see you in line. You need it.
speaking of Malkin and dips:
spinner rims, chrome grill, hella skills
dippity do y’all: waterboard thrills
intern the concern - burn, baby, burn
Why do radical wingnuts think they are allowed a staffing veto in Democratic Presidential campaigns? No one who listens to Donohue will vote Democratic, ever, so why should our primary campaigns be beholden to his views?
(You will notice that, as I predicted last night, the Jewish Democrats’ complaint about Willard Romney announcing his Presidential race at the estate of lurid anti-semite Henry Ford has sunk without a trace. Very little TradMed attention to this travesty.)
Our candidates must learn than the playing field is tilted in favor of the wingnuts; we must fight back with all our might when something like bloggergate occurs. Are any in the current field equipped with this knowledge already?
This reminds me of a page I saw about a communion wafer “taste test“.
I’ve heard it’s “okay” if the wafers aren’t blessed.
I actually like onion dip.
rwcole @ 24
So do I. GoodMrsPuma prefers that I not eat the stuff, though. Something about “gaseous anomalies in the Beta quadrant.”
There’s a scripture verse I keep thinking of when I hear about Donahue’s attacks on the “foul mouthed bigots”. Hang on–I know it’s around here somewhere.
Renee in Ohio @ 26
Is this the bit where Jesus goes to town on the Pharisees?
The battle for the catholic vote is an important one- and goopers have been making inroads lately- this idiot is one of the (minor) factors. The Pope got personally involved in the 2004 election…
Much of the church still votes dems- but the conservative wing is workin hard ta change that.
Here we go:
Why do you see the speck in your neighbor’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye?
Perhaps Mr. Rowland has too much time on his hands between community service gigs?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Rowland
Jesus ALWAYS beat the shit out of the pharisees (first century goopers).
OT except in a gustatory sense
I’ve got the sour cream, but no instant onion soup mix.
Plenty of fresh onions.
Anyone have an onion dip recipe for fresh ingredients?
The conservative wings in various churches are well funded. There are some articles about the right wing Episcopalian groups here.
TRex @ 15
So you are pro Oprah?
Renee in Ohio @ 33
If you have no sense of morality, ethics, or basic decency, there’s not much left besides fund-raising.
Yes, but anti-loofah.
I’m pro-Uma.
Can’t stand The Craplick league, but have to admit the Lipton ad was in bad taste. Why insult a potential customer? No reason to start a jihad, but show a little sensitivity!
Now if we just could do something about the new Cruise Misselets and the Self Service Stations of the Cross…
For my Valentine
I prefer dipping my hosts in hommous.
-GSD
Can we just call Jokeline the anti-pundit? (among other things)
Well, it’s not just being “good at fundraising”–the relgious right was a creation of the political right.
SubwaySerenade @ 38
Sure, but having acknowledged that, people like you and me move on to more important things. Donohue, not so much. If he isn’t the loudest, most persistent victim in town, he isn’t what passes for happy with him.
The catholic church- on the whole- is saner and less anti-intellectual than the fundie churches that have spawned a renewal of ignorance across america..If you can keep up with a well trained catholic theologian in an argument- yer pretty damned good.
Unfortunately- there’s a new breed of catholics who are drinkin the Falwell KoolAid and are every bit as ignorant. Most of em are “laymen”- dumb and mean- that’s where this guy fits in.
Renee- Yeah- in a way.
One version is that it started in Orange County with one woman who got really pissed off about sex education sometime in the early seventies- the politicians noticed that it was gettin attention and stole it.
rwcole @ 43
That pretty much says it, yes. The RCC is too big to tar with just one brush–although nobody who finds the current pope creepy as hell is going to get much argument from me.
Can’t wait for the American Taliban to start blowing up statues that offend them.
They’ll start with MLK and then move onto the Crazy Horse statue…..
This Donahue clown needs to be laughed out of town.
-GSD
Chris Cillizza chatz at WaPo at 11 eastern tomorrow.
PBS documentary “Secrets, Sources, and Spin” producer Raney Aronson chatz at 11 also.
Dan Froomkin chatz at 1pm eastern.
Donahue is workin the same scam made famous by Falwell and crew—”The secular humanists are out ta get you”..
Worked OK for Falwell- probably workin a little for this political whore too.
Donohue is an embarrassment to Catholics, of which I am one. I remember during the sexual abuse scandal, he was ranting about how the media was focusing too much on that issue, instead of focusing on the good the Church does. He apparently was too stupid too understand that the bishops’ failure to deal with the scandal is what allowed it to overshadow the good works of the Church. Oh well, Evangelical Protestants are stuck with Falwell and Robertson, and we’re stuck with Donohue.
I wonder if TradMed will think twice about having Donohue appear, now that he’s been exposed as the bigot he is, especially if he wants to talk about bigotry….
Archie Bunker Donahue is looking to bump Fred Phelps off his high horse.
They are both # 2 in my book.
-GSD
Perhaps Dana Rohrbacher should list Onion Dip as a source of greenhouse gas emmissions. It really is dangerous stuff.
onion dip recipe w/o soup mix
1. 2/3 sour cream, 1/3 mayonaise
2. slow and low saute (20 min) 1 onion in acouple tbls oil - should be carmalized but not burned, so stir often
3. salt, white pepper and galic powder to taste
4. refigerate for 20 minutes to let galic powder be absorbed
eat
“I say I’m a Vice-President, son, not a chicken, I say…Rump tump duddly-ump de doo dump, DOO-da, doo da…”
;>)
Totally OT, but I went to Yoga this morning and it was AWESOME. They had a nice 60ft. mat for me and I trimmed my talons extra thoroughly so they didn’t rip it.
Afterwards, though, I felt like a liquid. I just wanted to nap the rest of the afternoon away.
Pope Bennie is a throwback to the Pope who embraced Mussolini..He was in the Hitler youth ya know- and was the guy who did the smear on Kerry about excommunicating any catholic who was “pro choice”. He’s got plenty of political axes to grind- but I think he’s not much of a politician.
The net effect of the Kerry flap was to help insure that dems never nominate another catholic for pres.
Nice job Bennie!
Renee in Ohio @
18
I was raised an Episcopalian, and I wasn’t offended. did I miss something?
I’m a Presbyterian- but we get the little cracker thingees.
rwcole @ 56
Sure, but so was pretty much every kid his age in Germany in the 1930s. Plenty of Germans got over it. Ratzinger seems to like that kind of authoritarian snake oil, though.
Pectopah @ 52
No doubt the dinosaurs ate the stuff and all went pfft at the sametime.
edgery @ 57
I, too, was raised Episcopalian and the only thing we’re ever sore about missing is an open bar.
More Republican family values:
Scalia’s daughter arrested for child endangerment, DUI.
[h/t raw]
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thnaks john in california - onion dip coming up!
kirk murphy @ 62
Sweet. Er, I mean, how tragic and alarming!!
Scalia’s apparently another of the whacko catholic right.
Who’s going to revoke their tax exemption? The IRS? It’s not something Congress can do is it? And if it is, do you really expect them to do anything like that?
Just saying, those cardboard-like hosts are not only used in Catholic churches. Just another dimension to the fake outrage Donahue spews.
At my current church, we have people who bake bread for communion, but I’d been to Catholic churches where they do that as well.
TRex @
62
Ya know, Pat Robertson thinks we’re all satanists, collectively…
kirk murphy @ 33
Kirk M., your question cracked me up. To add to John at 54’s suggestion, here is one that looked good:
http://www.foodnetwork.com/foo.....src=search
Renee in Ohio @ 18
Not that it matters, but Baptists do the Lord’s Supper, and to my untrained eye, looks a lot like communion…
Blub @ 67
Right there was where you lost me.
and, from the human cannon fodder front… guess those surgers need to come from somewhere
Army Giving More Waivers in Recruiting
By LIZETTE ALVAREZ
CNN
Published: February 14, 2007
The number of waivers granted to Army recruits with criminal backgrounds has grown about 65 percent in the last three years, increasing to 8,129 in 2006 from 4,918 in 2003, Department of Defense records show.
During that time, the Army has employed a variety of tactics to expand its diminishing pool of recruits. It has offered larger enlistment cash bonuses, allowed more high school dropouts and applicants with low scores on its aptitude test to join, and loosened weight and age restrictions.
The Presbyterian crackers are WAY too small to scoop up onion dip with- you’d have ta use yer fingers- and there’d be nothing to wipe em on but the hymnal..
I just don’t think it would work in a Presbyterian Church.
I didn’t know that. Knew Lutherans did.
Went to a Unitarian Universalist church where they did some sort of bread thing–sorry, can’t for the life of me remember what it was called–where they passed around baskets of breads from different parts of the world.
TRex @
64
I wonder if she’s gonna need legal help?
-GSD
Donohue: “You CANNOT petition the lawd with sour cream!”
Blub @ 72
are those waivers dipped in Lipton?
TeddySanFran @ 22
It was at the Henry Ford Museum. I think it was ironic, that Romney announced his bid in a museum, meaning he belongs in one, like some past relic or dinosaur. It is up with the visuals of Haserts Graveyard presser.
Renee
I go to a Unitarian church sometimes- they don’t eat ANYTHING- and aren’t allowed to mention Jesus.
kirk murphy @
63
Big Tony would have shown that copper a finger wave or two.
I don’t think Jewish people have snacks during service either- but I’m not sure.
Pectopah @ 77
And he’s trying to sell himself as an “outsider.” That’s right up there with “real conservative” for hoary Republican campaign lies.
darkblack @
55
Does Shotgun Leghorn hang out with Bugs Malkin?
-GSD
Do Mormons snack at the temple?
TRex,
Lindsay Beyerstein is right on DonaHO, as usual. I doubt the Justice Department or Internal Revenue Service will do anything about his sick political activism. But does anyone here think there’s a politician in our congress with the balls to force the IRS or DOJ to take down the Catholic League over their brazen violations of U.S. tax code? I don’t.
Saw this on Jesus’ General’s site also…
http://www.metrowestdailynews......3096972286
A Mass (no pun intended) state senator goes to a high school to confront some kids that said some mean things about him on Facebook. Goes in front of a class and repeats the f-bombs and vulgarities to all the kids, including the ones not involved, in order to confront them on their opinions.
What a f-ing freakshow! Goddamn, I wish one of my kids was in that class. I’d be all over that dude and in the media. Go bully and intimidate a few high schoolers. What a man!! Oh yea, he is a Repube as you probably guessed…
Heading home, kids.
See you in a bit.
montag @ 74
When only opus dip will do.
When the Flying Monkeys launched their latest DoS attack on Amanda, I unleashed my response, here.
rwcole @ 83
What happens in the Tabernacle stays in the Tabernacle.
rwcole @
65
think he’s one well-trained catholic you could keep up with in an argument?
TRex @ 87
Don’t forget the Cheese Whiz, it goes great with hosts.
-GSD
Phoenix Woman @ 88
I’m posting these instructions.
Tab-n-apples.
-GSD
Happy Hour at the temple- no host communion to follow.
sniflheim @ 66
Mac Hammond’s going down, courtesy of the IRS. Yes, they can take down Donohue.
TRex @ 92
Bless you! You’ll soon have e-mail!
Eureka Springs, AR @ 88
That’s the recipe that requires real blood from self-flagellation, right?
rwcole, the communion-like thing happened only once a year. And they mentioned Jesus sometimes, referring to him as the “ancient teacher from Palestine”, or something like that. I heard some really good sermons there.
Some of them can be found online.
GSD @ 83
You mean Elmer J. Mangalang, millionaire?
;>)
darkblack @ 99
That one still makes me laugh out loud.
-GSD
montag @ 95
Whips up in minutes.
Last month, Douglas Harding - one of the recent greats in metaphysics - died one month short of his 98th birthday…but,
There was a day, back in 1942:
http://www.headless.org/englis.....o-head.htm
When he ‘woke-up’ to headlessness.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 100
Minutes?!?! Put some gusto into that cord, believer!
Speaking about Episcopalians, is shrub still trying to get his goons in the IRS to shut down churches for daring to sermonize against him?
edgery @
58
I was too raised Episcopal and still am. I thought the commercials concept was funny, execution so-so. The only thing remotely threatens my faith is world hegemony in the name of Jesus.
Is there a U Tube copy of that commercial, and, if so, where can I get it?
TRex, I had to laugh when I saw the journal that the 10 worst atrocities of 2001 article appeared in. “America” is a Jesuit publication, and I’ve got a hunch that they published it almost as a target for their readers. Most of the letters they published take Donohue to task, and a couple even lament the “poor editorial judgment” that let his piece get published in the first place.
Speaking of catholicism and Scalia, there is a fascinating article in this week’s New Yorker (not available online) about Tom Monaghan, the wealthy founder of the Domino’s pizza chain. It focuses on his efforts to start a ultra-conservative catholic univesity (including a law school) known as ‘Ave Maria University’ which is to be surrounded by a town built specially for Catholics on an enclave in Florida. Alito has already hired a graduate of Ave Maria university as a clerk. And Scalia was instrumental in getting Monaghan to appoint Robert Bork as a professor. The article connects a lot of dots, with kate O’beirne (sp?) earning a mention. I highly recommend the article.
Also, for religious believers of any faith, I highly recommend that you read ‘The God Delusion’ by Richard Dawkins. An incredible book that may change your life.
way OT: RIP denise brown. Berkeley has lost a great educator, too young. one who touched many lives including punaisette’s.
I don