
Oh, please, please, please...
If he testifies, Cheney will bring to the jurors the awesome authority of his office and could attest to Libby's character as policy adviser and family man, to his crushing workload and dedication to keeping the country safe. That could give extra heft to Libby's defense against the charge that he lied to the FBI and grand jury: that he was so occupied with important matters of state, he did not accurately remember conversations from July 2003.But the first 10 days of testimony has already exposed some of the long-hidden workings of Cheney's extraordinary vice presidency, revealing how deeply the vice president himself was engaged during 2003 in managing public relations as the administration's case for war came under attack.
Under cross-examination by Patrick Fitzgerald, a veteran prosecutor who is likely to be deferential but dogged with questions, the vice president may be forced to describe in uncomfortable detail how he directed the counterattack on Joseph Wilson 4th, the former ambassador who accused the administration of twisting pre-war intelligence.
"This could be great theater," said Peter Shane, a law professor at Ohio State University. Anything Cheney says for the defense, Shane said, becomes "fair game" to be picked apart by the prosecution.
If Cheney makes a statement that conflicts with the public record — and nearly every witness so far has done so at least once — it could prove embarrassing for him and for the administration.
"If Cheney said anything that's contradicted in the record, though I think that's unlikely, Pat will slam him," said a former federal prosecutor who knows Fitzgerald. "He'll do it respectfully, but I have no doubt he'll do it," said the attorney, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of his relations with people in the case.
No testimony so far has supported the idea, proposed by some critics, that Cheney deliberately sought to punish Wilson by ordering the exposure of the covert employment by the CIA of his wife, Valerie Wilson. It was the disclosure of Valerie Wilson's CIA job that sparked the criminal investigation that ultimately led to perjury and obstruction of justice charges against Libby.
But the trial has chipped away at the public image of Cheney as a sober- minded policy architect and tough political combatant who is never rattled by the sniping of critics or the fickle commentary of the press.
Hello, brittle, supersized ego. Meet your date with destiny. Under oath. Under penalty of perjury.
Anyone else having one of those "A Few Good Men" moments in their mind? Somehow, I think Jane is going to have an awfully good week this week, either way. Boo yah!
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I fought the law…
and the….law won!
Cheney needs to go down. He alone is probably the biggest threat to accountability in our current government.
In the non-fiction category, check out Bush’s latest plan for victory:
Bush: ‘Every fallen soldier’s family will get a new SUV’
Oh yea, FITZ!
Rather make that the satirical fiction category.
Good morning gang!
Uh, have I missed something? Is Cheney really going to testify? I thought that was all piffle.
Game On.
tommy yum @ 6
We don’t know. But if he does, it will be an amazing display of Hubris incarnate.
Good Morning and Good Blogging for today! It should be interesting.
I bet Cheney wishes that Gonzales would send one of those letters to Fitz telling him to resign now. Yes, Cheney needs to show what a great pal he is and testiLie.
tommy yum @ 5
I read somewhere (can’t remember where) that the source for that article was Sludge Report. If so, we can be sure ol’ Deadeye will not be putting his hand on any bible.
bonkers @ 10
No, he will use a Koran to satisify his Right-wingnut base. After all, don’t want to lie on the Bible.
My guess is that this Cheney story is based on a leak from Libby’s team. The story is likely false and intended as a feint designed to distract Fitzgerald and his team and force them to prepare for a witness who will never actually testify in court.
You will notice that nowhere do I say that Cheney IS testifying — that’s because no one knows whether or not he will take the stand. (Well, no one outside of Team Libby and Cheney and his legal team anyway.) But just in case, I think it’s good to set the scene a little bit in terms of contemplating the stakes on all sides of the issue. And if he does take the stand this week? Well, THAT is going to be something to see…on so many levels.
Hi tommy and hugs to Esten!
Never let ‘em see you sweat, does that get me out of going to the gym today?
This post ties in really well with this morning’s Swopa post.
*xyz at 12 — If it’s designed to distract Fitz and his team, I have news for them: the lawyers on the government team are professionals who will have had their cross-examination questions and evidentiary notebooks put together weeks ago for every single witness on the proposed defense witness list. They’ve already prepped Q&A scenarios for Cheney ages ago, I’m sure — because that is what you do in preparing for trial. And all of those folks have faced off against people far more frightening on a personal level than Dick Cheney. He may have a lot of power at the moment, but he’s just a man — and he will go back to that status in a coupla years.
taking a break from my workday to say:
The level of quality and detail in the front page postings here seems to be increasing, even through the short time since last fall that i’ve focused here. I’ve learned so much about the twisted machinations foisted upon the american people by this coup d’etat from reading here, and following links. Very impressive.
This quality increase is keeping pace with the added scrutiny given FDL because of the trial live blogging. (Won’t be able to join today until much later, but godspeed… )
Most of us followed the madness from before shock and awe, and knew the intelligence was being sexed-up. But the coherence of detail presented over the past months is beyond compare.
Thanks to all at FDL. Posters, Patrons and Paradigms alike. And I hope Jane gets her wish to beam her strength and truth directly at Cheney.
Gosh CHS (and good morning), it would just be too good to be true. Cheney’s every bit as cloistered and filled with false entitlement as W. Can you imagine him telling Fitz that his line of questioning is hogwash? Or maybe to go fuck himself?
I’m not hearing the Right clamoring for Dick to go clear Scooter’s name. I guess there’s too much other important stuff to be concerned with, like Nancy Pelosi’s choice of aircraft.
The article discussed by Christy also contains the following statement:
“…Cheney is expected to make a historic appearance on the witness stand.”
I don’t think Cheney is likely to testify, but the article does seem to suggest that he will.
new thread upstairs, kids.
I suspect Cheney will continue to lie, even under oath. He will not be disabused of his version of the truth. A sane person at this late date would not continue to connect Saddam and Al Qaeda (and all the other fantasies he harbors) but what little sanity Vice has left depends on him ignoring reality. Have their ever been so many madmen in one administration, so many without a shred of conscience, so many without a spark of patriotism.
Dinesh D’Souza wants to see America ruined, he said back after 9/11.
“Shortly after “The Enemy at Home” came out, a blogger recalled that in 2003, commenting in the National Review on the fact that “influential figures” in America’s conservative movement felt “that America has become so decadent that we are ’slouching towards Gomorrah,’” D’Souza wrote:
“If these critics are right, then America should be destroyed.”
-GSD
I can see it now:
“Mr Vice President, do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?”
“No.”
Cheney: “A deputy president with a shadow operation”
I doubt the White House and its ilk will risk having Cheney take the stand. Libby is probably considered a lost cause at this point as he has done his job of covering up the real story. There are too many lies and distortions for someone even as diabolical as Cheney to keep straight and the prosecution will be able to trip him up.
Just because I don’t think they will take the risk doesn’t mean I wouldn’t enjoy it mightily. Keep up the great coverage FDL team.
I fail to understand why folks on the left and reasonable center (if there is such a thing) in this country put so much stock in Fitz’s actions. He has missed several opportunities to secure under oath what we all know. The VP is guilty of high treason. Fitz is a Republican. Chosen by Republicans and will do their bidding like a Republican. What he (Fitz) doesn’t realize is that after the Libby verdict, and the flaying he will receive in the Fox press, He won’t even be able to work in traffic court.
Swopa has a fresh thread, everyone. :)
In attemting to forecast how the defense plays out, I think the key is determining who is calling the shots, Shooter or Scooter?
Wolf Singer at 25 — Does it occur to you at all that Fitzgerald and his team of prosecutors and investigators are looking into this case not because they hope to get good press, but because it is the right thing to do? I know it’s tough to think about people who try to do teir jobs well and serve justice, but the history of every attorney and investigator that has been involved on Fitz’s team is that they are people who believe very strongly in the rule of law and that the thing that pushes their justice button more than anything is a person who abuses the public trust and their position of power.
This investigation is not merely about piling up a bunch of convictions. It is about exposing the malignant actions of the people in the Bush Administration who put themselves above the laws and the people, and put their own interests ahead of everything else, including protecting someone who was involved in some high stakes national security matters. The testimony elicited thus far has made that abundantly clear, from the media manipulations on down. And I do not think that any person who has been involved in investigating this case cares one iota about what any bobblehead on Fox news says about them. It isn’t so much putting stock in Fitzgerald — although some folks do — for me it’s more putting stock in his faith and my own faith in upholding the rule of law.
And it is about time that everyone in America remembered that — Bush is President for less than two more years. After he completes his term, someone else will be President — but the rule of law remains a constant in our Republic. It is to our Constitution and our laws that all of us must look — and the people who jump up and down and protect this Administration whatever the cost would do well to remember that. No person — no matter how high their power may go for a fleeting point in history — no person is above the law.
Wolf Singer @
25
Fitz has an incredible history. He investigates the whole conspiracy and always gets the top person. That takes time. He gets the bottom people to turn states evidence. The middle people are indicted and set aside under seal. Then, when he has the highest probability of obtaining convictions he goes after the kingpins. Look at the investigation and trial of former Illinois governor Ryan. Eight four indictments. Two acquitals. These are the odds Cheney is looking at.
Some prosecutors tie the defendent to a fencepost then call in the jury. Fitzgerald bolts the defendant to the wall in twenty places so the defendant can barely wiggle his fingers. Then Fitz calls in the jury.
Notice Libby’s defense strategy? He is immobilized. Cheney doesn’t realize it yet, but he too is being immobilized.
To: Christy Hardin Smith at 28 & John Forde at 29,
I pray you are both right because the country needs to know the full weight and repercussions of this corrupt administration. And because,with what time they have left, this same administration is racing to Iran.
GOOOD MORRRRNNNING FDLLLL!!! I’m sure you folks are anticipating cross-examinations as well as I. Lets go Fitz! lets go Fitz! Lets go Fitz! F! I! T! Z! FITZ! FITZ! FITZ!
Too funny…”A Few Good Men” happened to be on yesterday on one of the movie channels. I savored the Colonel Jessup moment at the end. It would be one of my wildest fantasies come true to have DeadEye go Jessup on Fitz.
Cheney Snubs Japanese Defense Minister For Saying Decision To Go Into Iraq Was ‘Wrong’
The awesome authority of his office?
Until a few days ago, that office was best known as not being worth a bucket of warm piss. Surely Fitzgerald is not going to be awed by the Cheney-Addington theory that the Vice President is all-powerful and accountable to no one.
Cheney will not testify. Ain’t gonna happen.
But lordy, lordy, it would be fun if he did.
mudkitty @
35
I dunno. But I also never before have seen such a super-size portion of hubris crammed into one person.
I’m with Christy. please please please!
let him get up on that stand be sworn at, oops, IN.
Christy –
If Cheney does testify, based on what we’ve heard so far from evidence and testimony, wouldn’t he likely have to plead to avoid self-incrimination?
Is it possible that the Cheney testimony is a defense tactic to create the opportunity for a mistrial or for jury nullification?
My $0.02.
Any chance of being told OF WHAT YOU ARE SPEAKING?
The NYTimes article is dishonest, in that they elided ‘the Pres’ (or ‘this Pres’) from their description of Cheney’s note.
“Not going to protect one staffer sacrifice the guy that was asked to stick his neck in the meat grinder because of the incompetence of others,”. But we’ve all seen the actual note, right?
Time to write the Public Editor….