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		<title>By: mahopac maze</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/12/libby-live-woodward-one/#comment-502578</link>
		<dc:creator>mahopac maze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-501658&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;portia.vz @&lt;br /&gt;
                29              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, how did Armitage find out?  If he knew she worked for the CIA and he knew what her area was, how come he didn’t know (or knows but doesn’t say) that she was a NOC?  Presumably, someone told Armitage or he saw information about her.  Does he know it’s classified?  And if not, why not?  Or does he trust Woodward so much (That deep throat secret must have really paid off) that he knows what he tells Woodward will not leave the room?  (But it’s caught on tape, Richard)&lt;br /&gt;
And why does Woodward go on Larry King a year later and say, “Oh, it’s no big deal.  No one got hurt.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And don’t forget he said something about “Scowcroft was working on it”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does that mean this conspiracy leads to Scowcrowft and maybe Ledeen being involved in creating the forgeries? I’ve thought that making that connection of the White House to the forgeries might be a little difficult, but here it looks like Armitage is pointing the way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bring Scowcroft to the stand for a few questions!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, Armitage IS smart enough to know not to talk about a NOC to a reporter. If he said it was an accident that’s just a cover. Mark him down as one of those assigned to leak the story.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-501658"><em>portia.vz @<br />
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<blockquote><p>So, how did Armitage find out?  If he knew she worked for the CIA and he knew what her area was, how come he didn’t know (or knows but doesn’t say) that she was a NOC?  Presumably, someone told Armitage or he saw information about her.  Does he know it’s classified?  And if not, why not?  Or does he trust Woodward so much (That deep throat secret must have really paid off) that he knows what he tells Woodward will not leave the room?  (But it’s caught on tape, Richard)<br />
And why does Woodward go on Larry King a year later and say, “Oh, it’s no big deal.  No one got hurt.”</p>
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<p>And don’t forget he said something about “Scowcroft was working on it”.</p>
<p>Does that mean this conspiracy leads to Scowcrowft and maybe Ledeen being involved in creating the forgeries? I’ve thought that making that connection of the White House to the forgeries might be a little difficult, but here it looks like Armitage is pointing the way.</p>
<p>Bring Scowcroft to the stand for a few questions!</p>
<p>BTW, Armitage IS smart enough to know not to talk about a NOC to a reporter. If he said it was an accident that’s just a cover. Mark him down as one of those assigned to leak the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Stymie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/12/libby-live-woodward-one/#comment-502325</link>
		<dc:creator>Stymie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Of course we all know that Plame was covert, the fact that Armitage is not in jail right now is just an oversight, I’m sure…..&lt;br /&gt;
Beam me up Scotty…..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course we all know that Plame was covert, the fact that Armitage is not in jail right now is just an oversight, I’m sure…..<br />
Beam me up Scotty…..</p>
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		<title>By: Stymie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/12/libby-live-woodward-one/#comment-502323</link>
		<dc:creator>Stymie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-502201&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;cinnamonape @ 69 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-501673&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Fam Srancis @ 40 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The theory that this was some grand conspiracy to out a known undercover CIA agent is now utterly vaporized.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re right…it seems more like a grand conspiracy to out an UNKNOWN undercover CIA agent!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Repeated incidents through a variety of avenues that revealed her identity…and identity that was unknown. That the CIA requested the DOJ to investigate as a possible violation of the Intelligence Agents Identity Protection Act. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW~ If Plame wasn’t covert then why hasn’t the DEFENSE (or Rove, or Cheney or the White House) simply presented the evidence that she was a publicly open CIA employee working in non-covert activities.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That information would never have been declassified, would it! Look at all the effort they undertook to declassify the NIE…even asserting that they could INSTA-Declassify it!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But they can’t get the CIA to say that Plame wasn’t covert????&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nor can the media????&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s pretty obvious that Plame was COVERT, and her specific activities still ARE classified.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-502201"><em>cinnamonape @ 69 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-501673"><em>Fam Srancis @ 40 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The theory that this was some grand conspiracy to out a known undercover CIA agent is now utterly vaporized.</p>
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<p>You’re right…it seems more like a grand conspiracy to out an UNKNOWN undercover CIA agent!</p>
<p>Repeated incidents through a variety of avenues that revealed her identity…and identity that was unknown. That the CIA requested the DOJ to investigate as a possible violation of the Intelligence Agents Identity Protection Act. </p>
<p>BTW~ If Plame wasn’t covert then why hasn’t the DEFENSE (or Rove, or Cheney or the White House) simply presented the evidence that she was a publicly open CIA employee working in non-covert activities.</p>
<p>That information would never have been declassified, would it! Look at all the effort they undertook to declassify the NIE…even asserting that they could INSTA-Declassify it!</p>
<p>But they can’t get the CIA to say that Plame wasn’t covert????</p>
<p>Nor can the media????</p>
<p>It’s pretty obvious that Plame was COVERT, and her specific activities still ARE classified.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-501673&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Fam Srancis @ 40 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The theory that this was some grand conspiracy to out a known undercover CIA agent is now utterly vaporized.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re right…it seems more like a grand conspiracy to out an UNKNOWN undercover CIA agent!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Repeated incidents through a variety of avenues that revealed her identity…and identity that was unknown. That the CIA requested the DOJ to investigate as a possible violation of the Intelligence Agents Identity Protection Act. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW~ If Plame wasn’t covert then why hasn’t the DEFENSE (or Rove, or Cheney or the White House) simply presented the evidence that she was a publicly open CIA employee working in non-covert activities.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That information would never have been declassified, would it! Look at all the effort they undertook to declassify the NIE…even asserting that they could INSTA-Declassify it!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But they can’t get the CIA to say that Plame wasn’t covert????&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nor can the media????&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s pretty obvious that Plame was COVERT, and her specific activities still ARE classified.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-501673"><em>Fam Srancis @ 40 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The theory that this was some grand conspiracy to out a known undercover CIA agent is now utterly vaporized.</p>
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<p>You’re right…it seems more like a grand conspiracy to out an UNKNOWN undercover CIA agent!</p>
<p>Repeated incidents through a variety of avenues that revealed her identity…and identity that was unknown. That the CIA requested the DOJ to investigate as a possible violation of the Intelligence Agents Identity Protection Act. </p>
<p>BTW~ If Plame wasn’t covert then why hasn’t the DEFENSE (or Rove, or Cheney or the White House) simply presented the evidence that she was a publicly open CIA employee working in non-covert activities.</p>
<p>That information would never have been declassified, would it! Look at all the effort they undertook to declassify the NIE…even asserting that they could INSTA-Declassify it!</p>
<p>But they can’t get the CIA to say that Plame wasn’t covert????</p>
<p>Nor can the media????</p>
<p>It’s pretty obvious that Plame was COVERT, and her specific activities still ARE classified.</p>
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		<title>By: legaleze</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/12/libby-live-woodward-one/#comment-502130</link>
		<dc:creator>legaleze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;J Did you interview VP for book?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BW stumbles&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;J If it makes you uncomfortable, I’ll withdraw that&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BW Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Initially I was surprised Fitz didn’t pounce on that exchange.  BW is called by the defense (although in retrospect it’s hard to see why) and he refuses to answer a question!!!!????? Although the question was withdrawn, the whole thing smacks of some sort of deal between Woodward and Wells.  If BW had testified to anything that Fitz thought harmful to his case, perhaps Fitz would have made BW feel a whole lot more uncomfortable on cross. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You don’t come to federal court to testify in a criminal trial and get to pick and choose the questions you will answer.  You don’t tell half the story.  Unless things changed since 1981 when I graduated from law school, you still have to tell the truth, and that means the WHOLE truth, not just the part the witness is comfortable with. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Since BW didn’t appear to hurt the prosecution, Fitz was probably smart to leave that one alone.  If Cheney testifies, we may see BW mentioned again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J Did you interview VP for book?</p>
<p>BW stumbles</p>
<p>J If it makes you uncomfortable, I’ll withdraw that</p>
<p>BW Thank you.</p>
<p>Initially I was surprised Fitz didn’t pounce on that exchange.  BW is called by the defense (although in retrospect it’s hard to see why) and he refuses to answer a question!!!!????? Although the question was withdrawn, the whole thing smacks of some sort of deal between Woodward and Wells.  If BW had testified to anything that Fitz thought harmful to his case, perhaps Fitz would have made BW feel a whole lot more uncomfortable on cross. </p>
<p>You don’t come to federal court to testify in a criminal trial and get to pick and choose the questions you will answer.  You don’t tell half the story.  Unless things changed since 1981 when I graduated from law school, you still have to tell the truth, and that means the WHOLE truth, not just the part the witness is comfortable with. </p>
<p>Since BW didn’t appear to hurt the prosecution, Fitz was probably smart to leave that one alone.  If Cheney testifies, we may see BW mentioned again.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/12/libby-live-woodward-one/#comment-501949</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-501856&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;David Ehrenstein @&lt;br /&gt;
                65              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh if only a giant hole could be opened in the earth and Timmeh, Woody, Andrea, Judy et. al. could be shived into it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Shived, then shoved.  We want to make sure.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-501856"><em>David Ehrenstein @<br />
                65              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Oh if only a giant hole could be opened in the earth and Timmeh, Woody, Andrea, Judy et. al. could be shived into it.</p>
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<p>Shived, then shoved.  We want to make sure.</p>
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		<title>By: sweetgumroot</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/12/libby-live-woodward-one/#comment-501857</link>
		<dc:creator>sweetgumroot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-501665&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Terre @&lt;br /&gt;
                34              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks Christy! @18&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Think I’m gonna make my own, personal, little list, and use Rayne’s as a jump-off point.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ditto on the thanks. As non-legal person, is it reasonable for me to read 403 as a broad brush failsafe for the judge to keep evidence on point?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-501665"><em>Terre @<br />
                34              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Thanks Christy! @18</p>
<p>Think I’m gonna make my own, personal, little list, and use Rayne’s as a jump-off point.</p>
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<p>Ditto on the thanks. As non-legal person, is it reasonable for me to read 403 as a broad brush failsafe for the judge to keep evidence on point?</p>
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		<title>By: David Ehrenstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Ehrenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh if only a giant hole could be opened in the earth and Timmeh, Woody, Andrea, Judy et. al. could be shived into it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: deandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>deandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-501663&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;AZ Matt @ 32 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-501657&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;watertiger @ 28&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;A quick illustration I did of &lt;a href=&quot;http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k69/watertiger/andreaparrot.jpg&quot;&gt;Andrea Mitchell&lt;/a&gt;, brrrrrrrawk!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very scary!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very funny.  But I’m old enough to remember when Andrea Mitchell first appeared on TV.  Jet black, kinky-curly hair and olive complected, wearing a snug, brown corduroy jacket.  Meow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, she’s just a republican double agent trying to pass herself off as a journalist.  And &lt;b&gt;Russet lacks all credibilty&lt;/b&gt;. All this makes me sick-at-heart.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-501663"><em>AZ Matt @ 32 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-501657"><em>watertiger @ 28</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>A quick illustration I did of <a href="http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k69/watertiger/andreaparrot.jpg">Andrea Mitchell</a>, brrrrrrrawk!</p>
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<p>Very scary!</p>
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<p>Very funny.  But I’m old enough to remember when Andrea Mitchell first appeared on TV.  Jet black, kinky-curly hair and olive complected, wearing a snug, brown corduroy jacket.  Meow.</p>
<p>Now, she’s just a republican double agent trying to pass herself off as a journalist.  And <b>Russet lacks all credibilty</b>. All this makes me sick-at-heart.</p>
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