Mary @
72

What a sleazy cast of characters all around. You wonder if any of them ever tell the truth.

It’s not in their job description to tell the truth. They are there to further the “mission” of their boses, in this case Shooter and Cluster, and to lie when required. After all, lies to protect the VP/POTUS means you are being a patriot…right?

I still can’t see this outing originating with Cheney (even the ‘oops I did it accidentally’ version). Why would Fleischer be involved if that were the case?

wells is trying to create a timeline and demoncstrate that these people were not informed of valery’s status by libby, that’s his purpose, his purpose is NOT trying to prove valery was not covert

Thank you for that. Very helpful, truly.

But I’m still not sure how that clears Libby of the perjury and obstruction charges.

This was a perfect way to spin against the truth.

Fam Srancis @ 38
perris @ 30
beth meacham @ 26

Because she was not covert. She was an analyst.

I’m surprised that the DEFENSE hasn’t been able to obtain this unclassified fact from the CIA. And neither has the media. Or the White House.

Bunch of incompetants, I guess!

perris @ 30

beth meacham @ 26

But Libby isn’t on trial for leaking to reporters.

I don’t understand why Team Libby is mounting a defense to charges that were not made. And not trying to defend against the charges that were.

and every single defense witness has testified they did not know valery’s covert status.

as far as I can see this defense is irresponsible and damaging to the defense

Because she was not covert. She was an analyst.

I just realized what it is that is causing your delusion

you are under the impression that if people in high position don’t know of a person’s covert status that means they aren’t covert

allow me to disabuse of that notion

a covert operative is known by that persons team…even their spouse’s do not know of their status unless given specific permission

nobody else in government would know unless they had a specific need to know

wells is not trying to make the case that valery wasn’t covert, he’s trying to point out that libby didn’t tell these people that she was covert

wells is trying to create a timeline and demoncstrate that these people were not informed of valery’s status by libby, that’s his purpose, his purpose is NOT trying to prove valery was not covert

so happy to disabused of your opinion concerning what this case is about and what wells is doing

Cycloptichorn @ 37

Wow,

“For example, it seems to me, unless he testifies, it will be impossible to argue that these matters were of greater importance than this info regarding Wilson and that he would not remember the event that’s the subject of this trial. I just don’t see how that argument can be made.”

Isn’t this Walton telling Wells that he’d better get Libby’s ass on the stand?

Woo hoo!

Yes and no. He’s telling Wells (I think) that if he wants to say that Libby forgot all about Plame, he can do that without putting Libby on the stand. However, if he wants to say that Libby forgot all about Plame because he was busy with X, Y, and Z, AND he wants to introduce a whole bunch of documents about X, Y, and Z, then Libby has to testify. No Libby, no documents.

Hallelujah. That sidebar before lunch was almost 30 minutes long and all I could tell is that it seemed very important and contentious; and it gave me a headache. Thank you for a very simple straight-up clarification.

perris @ 30

beth meacham @ 26

But Libby isn’t on trial for leaking to reporters.

I don’t understand why Team Libby is mounting a defense to charges that were not made. And not trying to defend against the charges that were.

and every single defense witness has testified they did not know valery’s covert status.

as far as I can see this defense is irresponsible and damaging to the defense

Because she was not covert. She was an analyst.

ridiculous statement, even the president’s own prosecutor has told you this asset was covert, because valery was exposed by traitors, one of our most valuable assets, brewster jennings and associates had to close shop, putting every asset associated with that cover corporation at life peril

you are an enabler, you are a party to the morons that care nothing about national security

let me ask you something…in your universe, is water even wet?

Is it just me, or is it somewhat difficult to figure out just where Wells is looking to go with these two witnesses?

Wells doesn’t care. He’s just trying to muddy the waters and confuse the jury. Making sense is the LAST thing he wants to do.

What a sleazy cast of characters all around. You wonder if any of them ever tell the truth.

It’s not in their job description to tell the truth. They are there to further the “mission” of their boses, in this case Shooter and Cluster, and to lie when required. After all, lies to protect the VP/POTUS means you are being a patriot…right?

When I step back from this it just makes me ill. I’m a vet and we swear “to preserve and defend the constitution of the United States”. I’m teaching my eight year-old daughter at this point about the formation of our country, digging into the people behind the revolution and the constitution, and it just pisses me off to see how low we’ve fallen. Bah!

Bob M. @ 57

Cycloptichorn @
7

Is it just me, or is it somewhat difficult to figure out just where Wells is looking to go with these two witnesses?

If Scooter is competent at what he does, and if he wanted to out Valerie, why wouldn’t he use every opportunity to do so? Maybe the fact that he spoke with several key journalists at different MSM outlets and didn’t mention her might raise a reasonable doubt as to his intentions…

You get it out via trusted steno sources, and then let the story morph out into regurgative news reports about what other media people are saying. Remember, all this “Cheney can unilaterally declassify anything and anyone, so there was no crime here” stuff is desperate post hoc CYA.
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Is this like the concept of “if I hear galloping hooves, I look for horses, not zebras”? Reasonable doubt might lead a juror to conclude that Darth and Scooter had an elaborate schedule of journalists, some to be leaked to and some not. They also had an elaborate time line of when to leak. Or they might not have been trying to leak at all. From Ari we learn that Gregory (pretty boy) didn’t seem to care at all, or he already knew it.