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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wierd… Marblehead? I don’t get this title… and I live right next to the headers in cozy little Swampscott.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wierd… Marblehead? I don’t get this title… and I live right next to the headers in cozy little Swampscott.</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
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		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-502961&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;cbl threadkiller @&lt;br /&gt;
                205              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;My god,we are sleepwalking into WWIII and outside of the folks who are paying attention,it is not being spoken of in any media.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;vexed by this as well, have been thinking/musing loosely along those lines . . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;a small gaggle of &lt;em&gt;Valeries&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hurriyetusa.com/haberler_foto4/valerie_plame_joseph_wilson_03.gif&quot;&gt;dressed like this image here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;should be standing outside Prettyman every day holding signs saying &lt;b&gt;“Who will they out, betray, endanger (your verb here) for Iran ???”&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;civil, of course, but provocative.  The Opposition has done this with a great deal of success the past 6  years, think &lt;em&gt;Brooks Brothers Riot,&lt;/em&gt; all those Schiavo loons, and would sure love to see our side pull one off&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;be kind of tough to ignore with all those kewl kidz in the courthouse - wink wink&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oops, thought you said &lt;a href=&quot;http://alternate-histories.infinitybridge.com/images/Family album/Big/Linith Valkyrie.jpg&quot;&gt;Valkyries&lt;/a&gt;!  Tough to ignore, indeed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-502961"><em>cbl threadkiller @<br />
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<blockquote><blockquote>My god,we are sleepwalking into WWIII and outside of the folks who are paying attention,it is not being spoken of in any media.</p></blockquote>
<p>vexed by this as well, have been thinking/musing loosely along those lines . . .</p>
<p>a small gaggle of <em>Valeries</em> <a href="http://www.hurriyetusa.com/haberler_foto4/valerie_plame_joseph_wilson_03.gif">dressed like this image here</a>, </p>
<p>should be standing outside Prettyman every day holding signs saying <b>“Who will they out, betray, endanger (your verb here) for Iran ???”</b> </p>
<p>civil, of course, but provocative.  The Opposition has done this with a great deal of success the past 6  years, think <em>Brooks Brothers Riot,</em> all those Schiavo loons, and would sure love to see our side pull one off</p>
<p>be kind of tough to ignore with all those kewl kidz in the courthouse &#8211; wink wink</p>
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<p>Oops, thought you said <a href="http://alternate-histories.infinitybridge.com/images/Family album/Big/Linith Valkyrie.jpg">Valkyries</a>!  Tough to ignore, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/12/late-nite-fdl-dawn-breaks-on-marblehead/#comment-503342</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Does it ever occur to Klein and his ilk that maybe we would be more ‘civil’ if we saw more truth spoken by the pundit class?  The frustration of seeing them misinform the public day after day is enough to drive a nun to cuss.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it ever occur to Klein and his ilk that maybe we would be more ‘civil’ if we saw more truth spoken by the pundit class?  The frustration of seeing them misinform the public day after day is enough to drive a nun to cuss.</p>
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		<title>By: Biggus Diggus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biggus Diggus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m stunned that guys like Joe Klein actually earn a nice living doing what they do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m stunned that guys like Joe Klein actually earn a nice living doing what they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Probably EPU’d here as well. Left a note at end of comments “depends on what you mean “illegal”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;About the only way brakes might be put on the runnaway administration is if Congress (finds the spine) to declare that any attack with nuclear weapons upon a country that has not declared WAR upon the U.S. by the Military or Intelligence asset will be charged by Congress with Treason. Furthermore, if any country uses its assets in like manner, that will be considered a declaration of WAR upon the interests of the people of the United States. That may put some distance between irrational fingers and certain buttons and just might create enough time for Congress and the Law to work their wonders.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hopefully, with the charge of treason hanging, few if any military will jeapordise their rank and join General Arnold in infamy. Nice thing, if the US is actually attacked, no hands are tied defending (but not attacking).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Was always wondering what all the “W” shite was about; finally sussed it was - pennis WART IN THE WHITE HOUSE - makes sence with those pr!cks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is it possible to declare the Administration and all Republicans to be liberal and let the sharks at ‘em? Bet the “beaches” would be cleared in no time of the riff-raff.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Back to the shaddows. Great work by all and thanks for the news.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably EPU’d here as well. Left a note at end of comments “depends on what you mean “illegal”</p>
<p>About the only way brakes might be put on the runnaway administration is if Congress (finds the spine) to declare that any attack with nuclear weapons upon a country that has not declared WAR upon the U.S. by the Military or Intelligence asset will be charged by Congress with Treason. Furthermore, if any country uses its assets in like manner, that will be considered a declaration of WAR upon the interests of the people of the United States. That may put some distance between irrational fingers and certain buttons and just might create enough time for Congress and the Law to work their wonders.</p>
<p>Hopefully, with the charge of treason hanging, few if any military will jeapordise their rank and join General Arnold in infamy. Nice thing, if the US is actually attacked, no hands are tied defending (but not attacking).</p>
<p>Was always wondering what all the “W” shite was about; finally sussed it was &#8211; pennis WART IN THE WHITE HOUSE &#8211; makes sence with those pr!cks.</p>
<p>Is it possible to declare the Administration and all Republicans to be liberal and let the sharks at ‘em? Bet the “beaches” would be cleared in no time of the riff-raff.</p>
<p>Back to the shaddows. Great work by all and thanks for the news.</p>
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		<title>By: burnspbesq</title>
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		<dc:creator>burnspbesq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-502886&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TRex @&lt;br /&gt;
                149              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-502881&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;burnspbesq @&lt;br /&gt;
                144              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-502871&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TRex @&lt;br /&gt;
                134              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;More beautiful Pelikans:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fountainpen.de/pics/pelikan/blue-ocean-nib.jpg&quot;&gt;The Blue Ocean&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.a-pen.com/pl-600-athens.html&quot;&gt;The Athens&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you want to play dueling Pelikans, it’s going to be a long and costly war.  You’ll be left suffering from a slightly different variety of &lt;a href=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/burnspbesq/stockholm.jpg&quot;&gt; Stockholm syndrome&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had no idea there were so many pen people among the Firepups.  We’re going to have to get together at a pen show sometime.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You win.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s a hot pen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What do they run, a few thousand $ these days?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Naah.  Not even close.  They don’t show up on eBay very often, but when they do, Stockholms tend to go in the $250-300 range.  Or you could go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pentrace.com,&quot;&gt;www.pentrace.com,&lt;/a&gt; put a “wanted to buy” post on the “green” bulletin board, and see what happens.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-502886"><em>TRex @<br />
                149              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-502881"><em>burnspbesq @<br />
                144              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-502871"><em>TRex @<br />
                134              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>More beautiful Pelikans:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fountainpen.de/pics/pelikan/blue-ocean-nib.jpg">The Blue Ocean</a><br />
<a href="http://www.a-pen.com/pl-600-athens.html">The Athens</a></p>
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<p>If you want to play dueling Pelikans, it’s going to be a long and costly war.  You’ll be left suffering from a slightly different variety of <a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/burnspbesq/stockholm.jpg"> Stockholm syndrome</a>.</p>
<p>I had no idea there were so many pen people among the Firepups.  We’re going to have to get together at a pen show sometime.</p>
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<p>You win.</p>
<p>That’s a hot pen.</p>
<p>What do they run, a few thousand $ these days?</p>
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<p>Naah.  Not even close.  They don’t show up on eBay very often, but when they do, Stockholms tend to go in the $250-300 range.  Or you could go to <a href="http://www.pentrace.com,"></a><a href="http://www.pentrace.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.pentrace.com</a>, put a “wanted to buy” post on the “green” bulletin board, and see what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: rumi</title>
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		<dc:creator>rumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;…here’s the most troubling twist. In understanding Ledeen, as twisted and troubling as that is in itself, the goal is not to replace the order but to utterly destroy it. That is the recurring theme in his words, writing and actions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  “Baghdad Year Zero” has been linked here many times and is easily Googlable for more background of an example. Sadly, he is succeeding in many ways that aren’t even being discussed yet. Look at the MSM/TM and the new citizen journalism. The order is not being replaced but &lt;i&gt;dis&lt;/i&gt;placed for a new order to arise from the destruction.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  If I’m ahead of the curve, I’d say that some sort of uncivil war here is actually part of the plan. If I’m wrong, it could be just another tragic unintended consequence.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;cbl - that’s a great idea about the &lt;i&gt;Valeries&lt;/i&gt;   :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>…here’s the most troubling twist. In understanding Ledeen, as twisted and troubling as that is in itself, the goal is not to replace the order but to utterly destroy it. That is the recurring theme in his words, writing and actions.</p>
<p>  “Baghdad Year Zero” has been linked here many times and is easily Googlable for more background of an example. Sadly, he is succeeding in many ways that aren’t even being discussed yet. Look at the MSM/TM and the new citizen journalism. The order is not being replaced but <i>dis</i>placed for a new order to arise from the destruction.</p>
<p>  If I’m ahead of the curve, I’d say that some sort of uncivil war here is actually part of the plan. If I’m wrong, it could be just another tragic unintended consequence.</p>
<p>cbl &#8211; that’s a great idea about the <i>Valeries</i>   :-)</p>
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		<title>By: SinisterMidget</title>
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		<dc:creator>SinisterMidget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s amazing how the media expects liberals to be civil while allowing conservatives to be rabid.  Sort of like how they expect Democrats to be bipartisan while allowing Republicans to push highly partisan policies and tactics.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s amazing how the media expects liberals to be civil while allowing conservatives to be rabid.  Sort of like how they expect Democrats to be bipartisan while allowing Republicans to push highly partisan policies and tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: cbl</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/13/fetid/&quot;&gt;eeew thread upstairs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: cbl threadkiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbl threadkiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;My god,we are sleepwalking into WWIII and outside of the folks who are paying attention,it is not being spoken of in any media.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;vexed by this as well, have been thinking/musing loosely along those lines . . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;a small gaggle of &lt;em&gt;Valeries&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hurriyetusa.com/haberler_foto4/valerie_plame_joseph_wilson_03.gif&quot;&gt;dressed like this image here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;should be standing outside Prettyman every day holding signs saying &lt;b&gt;“Who will they out, betray, endanger (your verb here) for Iran ???”&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;civil, of course, but provocative.  The Opposition has done this with a great deal of success the past 6  years, think &lt;em&gt;Brooks Brothers Riot,&lt;/em&gt; all those Schiavo loons, and would sure love to see our side pull one off&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;be kind of tough to ignore with all those kewl kidz in the courthouse - wink wink&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My god,we are sleepwalking into WWIII and outside of the folks who are paying attention,it is not being spoken of in any media.</p>
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<p>vexed by this as well, have been thinking/musing loosely along those lines . . .</p>
<p>a small gaggle of <em>Valeries</em> <a href="http://www.hurriyetusa.com/haberler_foto4/valerie_plame_joseph_wilson_03.gif">dressed like this image here</a>, </p>
<p>should be standing outside Prettyman every day holding signs saying <b>“Who will they out, betray, endanger (your verb here) for Iran ???”</b> </p>
<p>civil, of course, but provocative.  The Opposition has done this with a great deal of success the past 6  years, think <em>Brooks Brothers Riot,</em> all those Schiavo loons, and would sure love to see our side pull one off</p>
<p>be kind of tough to ignore with all those kewl kidz in the courthouse &#8211; wink wink</p>
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