
That's a picture of the hearing room of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and thanks to the Bush administration and its republican enablers in Congress, that room will be empty a bit more often.
Buried in the fine print of the Patriot Act reauthorization passed last year was a provision to allow the Attorney General to appoint "interim" US Attorneys who can serve indefinitely, without going through Senate confirmation hearings. (At first the fingers were pointed at then-Judiciary chair Arlen Specter for this, but he angrily denied it: "It was my staff, not me." Gee, that's a lot better, Arlen . . .) At least seven US attorneys have been forced out, and thanks to the Republican majority in the last Congress, now their replacements need not be burdened with the hassle of Senate oversight.
One of those US attorneys who was forced out is Carol Lam of San Diego. She's the prosecutor who led the successful investigation into Duke Cunningham's shenanigans. According to The Hill, however, she's been looking into more than just Duke:
At the time of her dismissal, Lam was investigating whether the Cunningham case involved other members of Congress and lobbyists.
Beyond Cunningham, the U.S. Attorney’s Office in San Diego sent a flurry of subpoenas for records to three congressional committees in late December. According to a Democratic leadership aide, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has been working with the House General Counsel’s office and was “close to a deal” last week with the assistant U.S. Attorney’s Office in San Diego on whether to comply with those subpoenas — and, if the papers were handed over, which documents to include.
Hmmm . . . Once Pelosi took charge of the House, things apparently started moving to let the investigation move forward. But now with Lam gone all that investigatory stuff is up in the air, and I'm guessing a couple of Republican members of Congress and their former K Street masters are starting to breathe a little easier.
Dianne Feinstein is livid. When two of the US attorneys in California got axed and the story broke, she took to the Senate floor to express her displeasure:
To date, I know of at least seven U.S. Attorneys forced to resign without cause, without any allegations of misconduct. These include two from my home State, San Diego and San Francisco, as well as U.S. Attorneys from New Mexico, Nevada, Arkansas, Texas, Washington and Arizona.
In California, press reports indicate that Carol Lam, U.S. Attorney for San Diego, has been asked to leave her position, as has Kevin Ryan of San Francisco. The public response has been shock. Peter Nunez, who served as the San Diego U.S. Attorney from 1982 to 1988, has said, ‘This is like nothing I've ever seen in my 35-plus years.'
He went on to say that while the President has the authority to fire a U.S. Attorney for any reason, it is ‘extremely rare' unless there is an allegation of misconduct.
To my knowledge, there are no allegations of misconduct having to do with Carol Lam. She is a distinguished former judge. Rather, the only explanation I have seen are concerns that were expressed about prioritizing public corruption cases over smuggling and gun cases.
The most well-known case involves a U.S. Attorney in Arkansas. Senators Pryor and Lincoln have raised significant concerns about how "Bud" Cummins was asked to resign and in his place the administration appointed their top lawyer in charge of political opposition research, Tim Griffin. I have been told Mr. Griffin is quite young, 37, and Senators Pryor and Lincoln have expressed concerns about press reports that have indicated Mr. Griffin has been a political operative for the RNC.
Rep. Rahm Emanuel doesn't have the best reputation around here, for good reason, but when he stands up and does the right thing, we've got to give him some love. He, too, is hitting the administration hard over this one, asking that Carol Lam be appointed as "outside counsel" so that she can continue her investigations stemming from the Cunningham investigation.
The other side of the mess is the people who are being appointed to replace the outgoing attorneys. Let's let Josh Marshall tell the story (from The Hill):
So who’s Griffin and what experience does he bring to the job?
A quick perusal of Griffin’s resume shows that his more-or-less exclusive vocation has been doing opposition research on Democrats on behalf of the Republican Party. Until recently, he was head of oppo research at the White House, working directly for Karl Rove. In 1999 and 2000, he was deputy research director for the Republican National Committee. In 2002 he returned as research director for the national GOP and stayed on for the next three years.
Before getting involved formally in oppo research he worked in what you might call de facto oppo research positions. In 1995 and 1996 he was associate independent counsel in the Henry Cisneros investigation. And after that he headed up to the Hill to work for Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.) investigating political contributions from Asian-Americans to Bill Clinton.
Oh, and I forgot to mention, according to Time, back in 2000, when he was in charge of digging up dirt on Al Gore, he apparently had a poster hanging on the wall behind his desk which read: “On my command — unleash hell on Al.”
I don’t think the readers of this paper are above having an admiration for a seasoned political operative, whichever party he or she may work for. But let’s just stipulate that Griffin seems like a pretty political guy. And it’s probably no mystery why the White House doesn’t want to see Karl Rove’s deputy through the Senate confirmation process before he takes over the reins in Arkansas.
Paul Kiel captured the mess in a nutshell at TPM Muckraker on Sunday:
Instead of nominating local, qualified attorneys whose philosophy jibes with the administration (as was the traditional practice), the nomination of U.S. Attorneys has been subsumed into the Republican Party's political machine. Apparently the title of U.S. Attorney is just too attractive a resumé-fattener to dole out helter-skelter. And while you're fattening the resumés of possible future stars of the party, it can't hurt to knock out a prosecutor who was doing considerable damage to the party.
If nothing else, Patrick Fitzgerald has given us non-lawyers a good look at what a US attorney can and should do. They wield incredible power, and are arguably the nation's best shot at dealing with public corruption. While they are appointed by the president and serve at the pleasure of the president, the Senate confirmation process provides a check on unlimited executive power, to insure that they are indeed worthy of the powerful posts to which they have been appointed.
But who really needs checks and balances? That's so pre-9/11. At a Senate Judiciary committee hearing on Tuesday about this, Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty told the committee, in essence, "Just trust us – we wouldn't abuse the process to circumvent the Senate."
Where have I heard that before?
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treason, count, what, 804?
Fitz
Peterr
So is Fitz’s high profile what’s saved him? I can’t imagine that the administration thinks to highly of Mr. Fitzgerald right now.
Can the Democratic majority introduce/pass legislation that corrects this “fine print” of the so-called “Patriot” Act? Are there plans for them to do that?
DiFi: “The most well-known case involves a U.S. Attorney in Arkansas. Senators Pryor and Lincoln have raised significant concerns about how “Bud” Cummins was asked to resign and in his place the administration appointed their top lawyer in charge of political opposition research, Tim Griffin.”
Bush/Gonzalez put a top Republican OppoResearch guy in as AG for Arkansas.
This wouldn’t have anything to do with Hillary Clinton, would it?
I wonder when they’ll get around to appointing a new AG for New York.
leinie @ 3
Yes, Congress can correct it, though that legislation would require a presidential signature. Feinstein has drafted the legislation to fix it, which is what the Judiciary committee hearing was all about.
To get that signature, though, it’s going to take more than a democratic majority.
Rule of law?
Guess we don’t go by that anymore. Instead, get US Attorneys who are politically correct. You know, like the PC people hired to transform Iraq. Or not.
We need to spotlight this issue everywhere.
This is an egregious mis-use of power. If I would go on, it would be bad for my blood pressure.
We need to pressure Congress to take action.
twolf if you are reading here, could you please change the Hey New Commenter thingie so that it doesn’t make Swopa a ’she’?
Cause we are pretty sure from the video that he is a he. And the women of the world rejoice.
leinie: “Can the Democratic majority introduce/pass legislation that corrects this ‘fine print’ of the so-called ‘Patriot’ Act? Are there plans for them to do that?”
Yes, there are.
Unfortunately, retroactive laws are generally frowned upon, and in most cases actually unconstitional.
So it’s doubtful they’ll be able to force review on the current nominations, or any other future nominations that occur before the change is passed.
And you *know* the Republicans will drag their feet on letting that come up for a vote as long as they can. Or until the 2008 elections, whichever comes first.
There’s an old joke that goes “What does ‘trust me’ mean in Yiddish? Fuck you. Sound slike that’s what the J Dept and the Gambino Administration is saying to everybody-”Trust Me”
I have a bad back,I couldn’t throw him very far.
Paybacks a bitch and it’s coming for these jerks. I’m hoping for sooner.
Senate?
They dont need no stinkin Senate.
It all sounds like fascism is coming to the U.S.A. At least to me it does. This is, I belive, not a radical view.
Really, does this surprise anyone at all? I mean we are dealing with lying, deceitful Senator Bait-And-Switch who has continued to say one thing in public on TV, then when it is time cut bait, he always caves in to the current line of Preznits Dumbya. Specter needs to go at our next opportunity too!
Why doesn’t congress put through a bill that declares they can make laws without the president’s signature….
-GSD
And why is Karl Rove still free to maneuver us out of our democracy? Yeah, yeah, I know first Libby than Cheney.
Is it not amazin how a piece of our democracy dies every day and the general public could care less.
The republicans aren’t the enemy we need to have a war on apathy.
ePluribus Media folks (of which I am a member) are currently working on an investigation into the “Gonzales Seven”. If you have anything you think is pertinent, feel free to pop me a note in the comments of my blog and I’ll get back with you.
I’d like to draw your attention to the location of the USA’s that were displaced. A substantive number of them were from the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, including Carol Lam. The Wikipedia entry for the Ninth Circuit recently included a rather unencyclopedic comment that the Ninth was the most liberal of the federal judicial districts; this should give you some indication as to sentiments that drove these USA’s out of office. USA’s are generally tapped for open judgeships, particularly in the districts in which they worked. The new USA’s are basically potential future right-wing judges.
With that in mind, what cases were USA’s working on that would eventually come before a judge in that district?
One in particular could hardly fail to catch your eye this week: the now-certified class action lawsuit against Walmart for discrimination against female employees. The case is being handled in the Ninth District.
And one of the USA’s replaced just happened to be in Arkansas…any chance there’s a relationship between this change and Walmart’s corporate headquarters in Benton AR?
But this is just the tip of the iceberg; there’s a LOT more going on here. I’m all ears.
OK,
Chris Hedges doesn’t think you are off base with that assessment.
American Fascists.
-GSD
GSD
They could add it on to Bush’s latest budget request, that would make it difficult for the Repugs to say no.
Bustednuckles @
10
McNulty’s either gone drunk on power or has gone over to the dark side. It still amazes me that he was one of the lead attorneys in the massive defense corruption investigation which began at the end of the Reagan years, known as “Operation Ill Wind.”
He was partly responsible for prosecuting many, many people and corporations.
It’s a puzzlement….
Arlen Specter smells like decaying democracy.
-GSD
oddball @ 15
Anna Nicole — 24/7.
Rayne,
I have heard about wanting to re-district the ninth for years.It is exactly because of the liberal slant.They tried dickin’ with it a while back IIRC, and got shut down. I see they just try a different angle.
GSD @ 21
Specter just smells, period.
Is it just me, or does it seem the 29%ers are walling themselves off from the rest of us as a government within the government?
Sort of like the ‘Pledge Allegience to W the King’ crowd is occupying the inner keep of the castle – as if they were under seige.
Sooner or later, we’re going to have to deal with this whole Unitary Executive Theory.
No matter how it may look on paper – there is no way it trumps the will of the people. In our equal America, we don’t have a King above legislative oversight and beyond judicial process.
Especially not a King who LIES us into Wars of Pre-emptive aggression, tortures, spies on us, and leaves ‘undesirables’ to die in New Orleans.
When will the Bush Madness end?
As to DiFi. I voted for this person every time when the Senator stood for election or re-election for mayor when I lived in the City (SF). The same is the case for the Senator’s senate elections. But I have to confess to a modicum of disappointment. Especially as it relates to peace in the Middle East.
During the trial today, Swopa had a hard time with one of the names of the women who have the key to Cheney’s safe.
I found these two Cheney employees full names at TPM:
Heiden, Debra A — Executive Asst. to Vice President
Mayfield, Jennifer H — Dep. Press Secretary
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002431.php
montaq — you missed the backstory on the testimony by McNulty. NPR actually did a bang-up job with coverage two days ago.
McNulty made comments to the effect reported in this thread — all the while an aide from his office was passing out documentation to support his comments, in which were copies of emails from members of Congress that demanded the ouster of specific USA’s.
McNulty said what Abu Gonzo demanded, but then quietly provided proof that the Legislature was impeding on the independence of the DOJ and USA’s.
The Dems should’ve never let the Patriot Act get amended with this unitary power provision regarding these appointments, incompetence at its worst to allow the Republicans get away with this. The questions should be directed at Pelosi and every other Dem in the house and Senate (the 109th congress), “How did you let this happen?” And “What are you going to do about it?”
“Just trust us….” yeah, just bend over.
Everytime I read another story like this I just want to run through the streets screaming. I saw a blurb on this one on the ticker on MSNBC last night and I counted to 10 so I wouldn’t scream and tear my hair out. How much longer can they get away with this shit?
BTW, Mayfield was the one who informed the public a while ago things that Cheney likes to have when traveling:
….fresh-brewed, decaffeinated coffee, four to six bottles of water and four cans of caffeine-free Diet Sprite, according to the list of requests, which is titled “Vice Presidential Downtime Requirements.”
Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Leahy is on a roll! Take a look at the text of S 214. This was approved by the committee on a 13-6 vote, and will go to the floor for consideration. Let’s help them enact the Preserving United States Attorney Independence Act of 2007.
Vic — you do remember, don’t you, that Dems did NOT have a majority in the House or Senate when the Patriot Act was written, modified, renewed?
What a surprise.
Not: “If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.”
Kill off the prosecutors that are challenging the dictator’s party’s corrupt actions. That’ll learn ‘em.
Busted (23) — Actually, they tried to split the Ninth into more, smaller districts under the previous Congress.
And guess who’s baby that project was?
Mr. Tom DeLay, bug killer extraordinaire.
Rayne, yes I remember. There is no excuse for this to get by them though, do you have one for them other than they were the minority?? that is kinda weak.
posted this earlier in the week (2/5)
WaPo – last sunday
original h/t C&L
Rayne @ 28
What impediments, exactly? And what were members of Congress trying to do, and which members of Congress? As I understand it, Abu is making the claim that the current process intruded on executive power (because, if Congress does not confirm a nominee after 120 days, judges in the appropriate district can appoint a USA to fill the vacancy).
This system has been in place for some time, and the bit slipped into the Patriot Act revisions completely circumvents the confirmation process. Was McNulty in favor of this change? If so, what was the reasoning?
Rayne or others- so who comes up with these *great* ideas, like canning these particular USAs? A genuine question. Some helpful *outsiders* (I mean outside the govt) who have a pipeline to Abu? Surely Bush is too stupid to think of this on his own (not that anyone implied otherwise). Just interested in your take on where this particular perniciousness may have aborned.
Rayne, thanks. I knew I remembered something about it.
I’m lucky I can remember my address.
I killed way too many brain cells for entertainment back in the day.
ccmask @ 31
….fresh-brewed, decaffeinated coffee, four to six bottles of water and four cans of caffeine-free Diet Sprite, according to the list of requests, which is titled “Vice Presidential Downtime Requirements.”
Plus the TV must be turned on and tuned in to Faux Nooz. Check the catapult donchaknow…
Surprised that the memo doesn’t include a battery charger (for his bionic innards) and lotsa black curtains for all the windows so’s he can work during the day. Plus ALL mirrors must be covered so nobody can check that he isn’t reflected in them…
Books Alive @ 32
Your link is to Leahy’s press release, not the text of the bill. The text is quite short:
(From Thomas, searching by bill number)
Don’t get me wrong – Leahy’s press release was quite something. Let’s hope it doesn’t end here.
VG -
B-I-N-G-O !
see the quote I posted above -
SharonRB >
As long as “We the people…” let them
“…whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness…” – THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE In Congress, July 4, 1776
This is a stealth issue but is illustrative of the fact that this Administration will never backdown from its lawlessness, corruption, and cronyism, despite electoral setbacks and massive unpopularity.
You can’t negotiate with them. They think compromise is for chumps. They will be doing their dirty deals and showing their contempt for us, our laws, and our country the last day they are in office as they are going out the door.
ccmaskcbl sorry- yes, I saw that after I posted! I am a slow typist.Hugh @ 44
But will they leave willingly if they are that corrupt?
Hugh @ 44
And then they WILL take the ‘W’ keys off the keyboards too. You watch.
Hugh @ 45
(or perhaps running out the back door as We, the People come in the front?)
And then We will say, “Molly sent us.”
montag @ 20
Nice city you got there.
Would be a shame if something happened to it.
A 13-6 vote in the Judiciary committee means that three of the nine Republicans voted with the majority. To get this thing through, it will take a similar percentage of the republicans in the whole Senate, and then the House, to do the same.
The attorneys in question who have been removed are Carol S. Lam in San Diego, Kevin Ryan in San Francisco, John McKay in Seattle; David C. Iglesias in New Mexico; Daniel G. Bogden in Nevada; and Paul K. Charlton in Arizona. As Rayne noted, they are all in the 9th circuit.
Feinstein’s made her feelings known, but I’m curious, though, about how the senators in these other states feel about being cut out of the loop on appointments. Arizona’s John McCain sticks out as a particularly tasty target for some pressure.
Doesn’t indefinitely just mean until 2008?
GSD @
14
I’d lay down good money that BushCo has already issued a signing statement to take care of that possibility.
How many damn times have these crooks been caught pulling their B.S.? Have they stopped? NOOOooo.
Impeachment, it’s not just for blowj*bs anymore.
S.O.S. in MA @ 41
Plus the TV must be turned on and tuned in to Faux Nooz. Check the catapult donchaknow…
Surprised that the memo doesn’t include a battery charger (for his bionic innards) and lotsa black curtains for all the windows so’s he can work during the day. Plus ALL mirrors must be covered so nobody can check that he isn’t reflected in them…
I figured it would have been a magnifying glass and a bag of ants.
Valley Girl, montaq — we really need a copy of the documents that were passed out by McNulty’s aide. They delineated which members of Congress complained to whom within DOJ or USAG’s office, demanding changes to the USA’s. I can’t answer the specific because they are contained in those documents and probably others.
Think about it: 65 or more members of Congress were allegedly implicated in multiple Abramoff scandals. That shoe has never dropped, the one in which the identities of those 65 were laid out. Was it because the same members of Congress were beating away on Abu G.?
That’s yet another piece of information we don’t have and can’t lay out along side the other information we have; who are these 65 members of Congress (under 109th or the 110th)? is there a correlation between the forced changes in the USA’s and their relationship with Abramoff?
There’s another facet that hasn’t yet been brought to light, which I wish an attorney with the appropriate level of knowledge could evaluate for us. Abramoff was a key figure in the Bayou Fund, a faux financial vehicle that attempted to move 100 million dollars offshore. Although some of the “victims” lived in NY state, and the money was shuttled through national and international banks, the fraud was prosecuted by Arizona STATE AG office, not a federal office. Why?
And is it a coincidence that one of the USA’s removed was responsible for Arizona? How does this all work?
Bustednuckles @ 47
If they want the W’s off the keyboards, they can take them now and leave immediately, as far as I’m concerned.
presque vu @ 51
Yes, but that’s far too long for an “interim” appointment. A lot of mischief can take place – and a lot of statutes of limitations can run out – in that two year period.
Thats what I get for letting these things get to me.
I have to wonder how many other silent coups are out there that we don’t know about… Justice, HHS, EPA, etc etc
Hey.. reportedly Dana “Welcome to the OC, b***h” Rohrabacher, Duncan Hunter (R-Abramoff) and Tom Tancredo (R-Klan) are now saying that they are considering some sort of symbolic effort to impeach shrub for not being racist and hateful enough. Maybe some dems will sign on….
Bustednuckles @ 48
I can’t wait to see that: Ne_s from the _est _ing of the _hite House! _ is gone!
SOS in Ma: I think Ashcroft took those curtains to cover the nudie statues.
VG – was commending you for being on the right track!
off to drown my sorrows in a Wailers show
ja Dogs!
Can someone, anyone, explain why the Democrats don’t act to cut off funding for an attack on Iran?
In the Cunningham investigation, with the lead attorney ejected, could our hungry old pal, Mr. Shredder, be coming aboard in the absence of any oversight?
Might Congress be wise to quarantine that info, until a qualified replacement can break the seal?
OT- but I have been checking out politics TV more since the FDL appearances. They posted this YouTube, but here is orig. YouTube here.
Heavy Condi satire, rap.
Rayne >
As Deep Throat suggested, “…follow the money.”
ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY NO MATTER WHERE IT LEADS
“No place is so strongly fortified that money could not capture it.” – Marcus Tullius Cicero
The NPR audio story mentioned by Rayne @ 28 is here
AHHHH, Thank you moderater. I see the error of my ways now.
Rayne- thanks for the detailed info. How do you keep up with all of this???
great video VG!
Now there’s a thought; register all shredders in DC and require full justification for every page they eat…
Bet they’ve been hummin’ and crunchin’ since Nov.7.
Oklahoma kiddo @
63
Would the House and Senate be able to produce enough votes to override a presidential veto?
Are we talkin’ Bob Marley? If so… are we jammin’?
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 72
Good question.
It distresses me to no end that Keith Olbermann on Countdown has devoted the first twelve minutes of his show–so far–to the death of Anna Nicole Smith. I will grant that he is asking some fairly intelligent questions that have been missing from the wall-to-wall cable news coverage earlier today, but come on–how many Americans died in Iraq today? Get real, Keith. Please.
It’s beer thirty. Same Bat time, Same Bat channel.
Is this Exhibit 407?
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/…..X05201.TXT
Peterr @ 42
Thanks for the correction of my terminology.
While looking for the AP story, which I thought mentioned 7 forced resignations plus another 6 who left on their own last year, I came across McNulty’s written statement before the committee, which is fairly lengthy.
Valley Girl — I gave up sleeping. Was too uncomfortable trying to sleep with one eye open anyhow, watching for the dark sedans with the black-suited sunglass wearing dudes to show up and cart me off anyhow. Was bad enough waiting for the dark sedan to show up with a military-uniformed guy bearing bad news when my stepson was in Iraq. So no sleep for 5 years.
Heh.
I really don’t know how any of us sleep these days, except for that lame duck in the White House.
daCascadian — yeah, exactly why I am watching Walmart, the 65 Congressmen & Abramoff, and the royalties owed to Indian nations.
Stew on the dollar value combined — more than most small nations’ GDP.
ccmask @ 69
thanks for watching! I thought it was brilliant!
I think I would like my party, the Democrats, to make a real effort to stop Bush from launching on Iran. No matter the eventual outcome.
neurophius >
There are some hardball playing folks out there for sure
“History is indeed little more than the register of the crimes, follies and misfortunes of mankind.” – Edward Gibbon
Vic @ 36
How did it get through? Arlen “One Bullet” Specter also of “I have serious reservations about this NSA thing and I’
m going to talk tough but don’t expect me to actually try to impede His Majesty’s will or anything like that” fame, had his aides slip it in in the middle of the night and at the last second so it would go unnoticed and voila!
Abu G. apparently is jealous of the way Rummy could have the Pentagon spell their little spell: “We’ve investigated ourselves and found we’ve done nothing wrong.”
Arlen, I suspect, will be one of the first up against the wall when the revolution comes.
“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive.”
“God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion…
T. Jefferson, 1787
Peterr — thanks for finding that NPR story, I was going to need it for my portfolio on this stuff.
Ever the optimist, that the crimes would be recorded.
Oh Rayne! I don’t know whether to say “try to get some sleep”, or not, given all of your amazing contributions.
Shuster on Olbermann commenting on Russert’s testimony. Why do I not feel sorry for Russert?
Bustednuckles @ 54
…as a matter of fact, I saw a push for impeachment from rethuglicans for a different reason
That whole situation is a mess. Cynthia McKinney had some run-ins with Prosecutor Johnny Sutton, Gonzales, Chertoff and/or ICE back in 2002 and more recently. That situation also dealt with the govt intimidation of a journalist
…and this doesn’t even scratch the surface of the ICE/DEA kerfuffle that protected an informant while he (allegedly) participated in cartel hits in Juarez/El Paso.., isn’t that where Reyes is from?
Vic @ 36 — umm, were you in this country during September and October of 2001? As if the climate here alone didn’t provide enough explanation…
I think Stephen Parrish’s comment at (72) also provided adequate explanation for you. Would the Dems as a minority in the 109th and the 108th have been able to form a veto-proof block?
I give you the answer in the form of Justice Alito.
Rayne >
Certainly a debt worth borrowing more Chinese money to pay off I would suggest.
“…Ambition must be made to counteract ambition…” – Federalist No. 51
Well, that list of all the people who testified that they heard from Scooter before the conversation with Timmeh was… well, something I hope the jurors have been making for themselves.
Peterr: Thanks for your post. What makes me more nervous than this is how many things DON’T we know yet?
Peterr @ 67
Just listened to it, and nothing McNulty said convinces me that he’s not doing Abu’s bidding here. He says that he believes DoJ doesn’t want to circumvent the nomination process, but… that’s exactly what they did and that’s exactly why the amendment was snuck into the legislation as it was. None of the “interim” appointees have been offered up to the Senate Judiciary for hearings, to my knowledge.
pseudonymous in nc @ 89
From the jury questions I’ve read, they certainly seem to be focused on the “goods”.
Hey, “Makin’ a list and checking it twice” would be a great title (and content) for a post, detailing what you’ve mentioned.
Books Alive @ 78
All the prepared statements from that hearing on Tuesday are at the Judiciary Committee website.
Here’s another nugget of testimony, from Mary Jo White (former USA in NY):
VG — aw, shucks, ’tweren’t nothing. Really, I am blessed with having the time to spend on this stuff. I feel bad for my friends who want to help and can’t because they have to spend what time they have “putting food on their families.” I’m pretty doggoned fortunate, sleep or no sleep.
The ’super majority’ thing is still a bit bothersome.
Rayne,
falsemodesty doth become you! *g*Tonight, we should be celebrating an Outstanding prosecution by Fitz!
No matter what Libby says – he’s not going to make Russert say, “Oh yeah, now I remember telling Libby about Plame!” Or Cooper or Miller say, “Oh yeah, Libby told us that other reporters were saying Wilson’s wife works at the CIA.’
Libby is toast.
The only real wonderment is whether Libby and/or Darth will testify before the guilty verdict.
Rayne said:
A-Φ that. This USA story is a real boiler.
Just out via Laura Rozen, and not unrelated to the main preoccupation at the Lake, a little more pressure on the other side for a change, from Sen. Rockefellar/Intel Committee:
Rockefeller goes on to say that further action by the Committee would come only after he consults with V-C Bond (R-MO). However, it sounds from this statement as if Rock is taking a different tack from some reports already dripping out to the effect that OSP intel activities were “legitimate.”
I feel good today. A Zogby poll released yesterday in our state newspaper, The Daily Oklahoman, tells us that folks outside our state no longer think (quite so much) that we here in Oklahoma are “rednecks, uneducated hicks and trailer trash”. Whew! Now I can sleep at night. ;0)
Somehow I have the feeling that as evidence from the Libby trial is posted to the Internet that item 404 will be inaccessible. Does God do irony?
Does anyone have a link to the Senate votes on the Patriot Act, por favor?
Everytime I turn around another horrific element of that Act shows up.
Can’t we just repeal the whole thing!
I absolutely adore Helen Thomas (On Olbermann).
The Speaker wants to know why Rumsfeld still has a desk at the Pentagon.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 103
Key Vote
(How all members voted)
USA Patriot Act of 2001
(from)
http://www.vote-smart.org
USA PATRIOT and Terrorism Prevention Reauthorization
The links to the House vote record should be close by on those pages
montaq — I hear you, and you’re right, I even said as much up thread, that McNulty did what Abu G. demanded.
But then why distribute rather damning info?
Here’s our current challenge, for straight shooters like Fitz and others like him in DOJ and other departments: if you up and quit, you will be putting the keys to the nation in the hands of people who are criminal, incompetent or both. If you stay, you may be able to mediate the problem and temper it, by being the cool head when needed or the leaker as necessary.
I’m not going to blame McNulty yet, not without more data at this point. McNulty cut his teeth under Poppy Bush, not Dubya. Remember that McNulty was the second choice behind the Abramoff-compromised Tim Flanigan for McNulty’s role; this could have been far, FAR worse if one can imagine it. The current cabal thought that they were going to do alright with somebody like Fitz taking over the case when Ashcroft recused himself, yes? And I think they thought the same thing when McNulty came along and made everything tidy after the dust up over Flanigan.
I suspect they were wrong on the second as much as they were on the first.
Rumi – Thanks
Eureka Springs, AR @ 107
wait,…I’d rather hear the thanks for when I post a link to the repeal of the P/A. It might take a little time but we’ll do it.
:-)
All you cat-bloggers (and others) need to see this. Classic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIVsZRPx_Dw
When I hear folks like Senator Feinstein complain about the results of the Patriot Act, I just want someone to ask her if she read the damn thing before voting for it. (!!!)
rumi @ 106
Hmmm . . .
Every Senator except two voted in favor. Mary Landrieu did not vote, and Russ Feingold voted against it.
I’m guessing it was a parlimentary maneuver by the Dems, once they realized they didn’t have the votes to stop it.
BREAKING NEWS
DOUGHY PANTLOAD (AND HIS BET) MAKES KO’S “WORST PERSON OF THE WORLD”
Eureka Springs, AR @ 110
Actually, I think that was one that was pushed through on pressure/guilt and available to read …maybe only the night before, or so. I think there was a suggestion to delay voting on it (Feingold, I think) but the fearmongers won out.
…GO KEITH!
keep on, keepin’ on…Jonah Goldberg todays’ WPITW
Nowak and Smith. Not a good week. Very sad.
Jonah Goldberg Worst Person in the World!
over $1K bet with Juan Cole that he didn’t pay up on
OT –
KO just named Jonah Goldberg the worst person in the world. TRex must be so pleased (see the last thread).
“Jonah Goldberg. Less prophetic than pathetic.
Today’s worst person in the world.”
The “culture of corruption” Republicans are trying to CPA the U.S. Attorneys offices around our democracy.
CPA?
The “culture of corruption” Republicans are getting rid of any qualified, expert, honoring-their-oath-to-U.S. Constitution U.S. Attorneys and replacing them with uber-partisan, “culture of corruption” Republican hacks…just like the “culture of corruption” Bush administration did over in Baghdad.
The only “misconduct” Carol Lam exhibited was her doing her job, which at present entails holding the “culture of corruption” Republicans accountable for all their criminal, anti-democracy, anti-patriotic activities that have so endangered our country.
Rayne @ 88
Yeah, I still think the Dems could have tried a filibuster for Robets and Alito even if it was a lost cause, at least they could show some spine occasionally. My point isn’t the fact they were in the minority and didn’t have enough vote for a filibuster. I think it is pathetic that it is only now we hear of this provision in the Patriot Act. If the Dems really cared about those that voted for them they would’ve made some noise about this but it seems they were to lazy to even know it had gone over their heads, that is incompetence plain and simple, it is unfortunate you don’t understand that fact.
urban- I love that video. Some alert FDLer posted the original some time back. What I did not appreciate until watching again from your link, is that it looks like every time the cat circles to the other side of the toilet, s/he’s trying to figure out where the water goes!
FDLers: multimedia maniacs
Valley Girl @ 120
Isn’t that cool? Pretty darn curious kitty
Peterr @ 121
Hah. I’m obviously the slowest typist. 5 posts in a row, pretty good. Go KO!
Eureka Springs, AR @ 109
I remember when that horrendous thing passed, someone was interviewing a senator and asked if they had read the Act and did they know what was really in it? (sorry wish I could remember who said this).
The response from the senator was something like, “are you serious, we don’t read any of these bills, we don’t have time.”
I was stunned, absolutely stunned.
Peterr @ 119
I learned about YouTube at FDL!
Rayne @ 107
I hope you’re right on this, but I have my doubts (particularly regarding the zeal of McNulty in prosecuting the Franklin case, with regard to the encouragement the government showed the judge in that case to include the press and private citizens under the Espionage Act).
As for the damning information, how damning is it that the mentioned offense was a failure to prosecute, for example, smuggling cases? That could be misconstrued as legislators simply doing their due diligence with regard to problems in their districts not being addressed by the area USAs. Sure, a smokescreen, but a smokescreen with a legitimate-sounding premise.
You’re looking at this–fortunately–as a skeptic, but the DoJ spokeswoman was passing out these information sheets to our notoriously inept members of the press to explain not that legislators might be trying to protect their own asses, but, rather, to explain that the removed USAs weren’t doing their jobs in accordance with the Bush administration’s crime-fighting priorities (as I understand the report).
It sounded to me like a coordinated effort to get the public and the oversight committee to look the other way, all the while making it sound as if the DoJ was being responsive, without actually being so.
Cheers.
urban pirate @ 110
This is one fixated poody. I love cats!
From DiFi on 1/16:
“Around the country, though, U.S. Attorneys are bringing many of the most important and complex cases being prosecuted. They are responsible for taking the lead on public corruption cases and many of the antiterrorist efforts in the country. As a matter of fact, we just had the head of the FBI, Bob Mueller, come before the Judiciary Committee at our oversight hearing and tell us how they have dropped the priority of violent crime prosecution and, instead, are taking up public corruption cases; ergo, it only follows that the U.S. Attorneys would be prosecuting public corruption cases.”
It’s even harder to provide a sensible reason for questioning Lam’s prosecutorial priorities when the substance of her effort is promoted and supported from above. Glad to hear that the head of the FBI has his eye on the ball.
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I want out of Iraq. I want no attack on Iran. I want a settlement to the Palestinian-Israeli situation.
My cat loves to follow humans into the bathroom. Very curious, but so far she has not tried to flush.
urbanpirate: I saw that cat video and posted it a long time ago. I love that one. I’d hate the water bill though.
Scarborough opening up with Anna Nicole. No soldiers dying in Iraq story yet. Still waiting.
ccmask @ 129
Aha! I knew I got it from FDL in the first place! So… it was you. Sorry all for non-serious discussion, and, I *am* reading the more serious comments…
ccmask @ 133
Scarborough saying, “I know how this sudden death thing goes.” ????
Actually, kinda marking time til a new post from Jane, and here it is!
ccmask — Iraq didn’t make the first/top three stories on NBC Nightly News, either.
1. Anna Nicole.
2. Libby-Russert. (finally emerged from depths!)
3. Autism.
There you go, the Iraq War must not be a big deal any longer, nor any of those helicopters falling from the Iraqi skies like dying butterflies.
I think of a classic Kliban cartoon, simple and elegant, consisting of only two frames, one with insects crawling around and one without an insect in sight, labeled, “Bugs”, and “Bugs Kept Away.”
Same premise with war coverage. See? War Kept Away.
ccmask @ 132
May she rest in peace, please…I hope the press lets go soon. So far, their tributes might last as long as Reagans
hey, by the way…how’s work and your boss/friend?
neurophius @ 131
One of my daughter’s cats TPs my daughter’s apartment (unrolls an entire roll of toilet paper) if my daughter is away overnight.
montag @ 134
Is that how he explained the dead girl in his office?
ccmask @ 131
Well, a belated hat-tip then. :)
Rayne @
33
Also, please remember that John Edwards was one of the authors of The Patriot Act.
jinny @ 143
I am no fan of Edwards. Again we are talking about when the P.A. was amended not who wrote the original Patriot Act.
NPR reported this afternoon that the Senate Judicial committee went back to the 120 day rule of temporary appointments by a 12-6 votes.
Anyone at FDL have some follow up on that?
OF COURSE no one read the Patriot Act prior to voting on it!! Do you all remember how things were back then? Anyone who even started to voice a question was immediately raked over the coals for supporting the terrorists!! All Democratic Senators (except Feingold) were scared sh*tless to do anything but reflexively vote for any and everything to support the troops/support the pRez. We have *never* been good at verbalizing things–we sit back and allow Repigs to determine the language, determine what will be covered, and then we simply “yaz, ma’am” or “no, sir”.
I remember no one having the guts to stand up to any of the Repigs back then because they were IMMEDIATELY and AUTOMATICALLY written off as unsupportive of the U.S. as a whole. It would have been the same had the Dems requested time to read the damn Patriot Act prior to signing it. They had us over a barrel. It was far more crappy than it is today, and in my red swath of Alabama which runs through the center of PA, things are still pretty durn bad.
S.O.S. in MA @
49
(or perhaps running out the back door as We, the People come in the front?)
And then We will say, “Molly sent us.”
Precious!
Rest in Peace Molly!
BAck to the original premise of the thread, I am an attorney in Seattle, practicing here for 26 years. John McKay, the US atty recently fired by the Bush admin. is part of a prominent Seattle family (12 siblings!). Generally Republican and Catholic. His older brother, Mike was the head of the Bush 1 state campaign back in 88 and was appointed US Atty by Bush 1. Mike then served as chair of the Bush election campaign in 200 and vice chair of the Bush reelection campaign in 2004. John’s firing has to be a gut punch to this family in many different ways. So I take John’s speaking out publicly to be very serious. There is something very weird going on here.
What is to stop the Judiciary Committee from subpoenaing these interim appointees anyway? Perhaps they can’t vote to confirm or reject, but how about a decent grilling?